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961388 No.961388 [Reply] [Original]

Are you ready for Gen2 to cannibalize HoloEN's numbers?

>> No.961622

>>961388
Just like how the new Gens of JP cannibalized their senpai?

>> No.961645

>Nyanners
>Woohoolad
>Annoying Orange
>Artemis
>Codemiko
Here's your Gen 2, bro.

>> No.961651

>>961388
I could see the reverse happening. Depends entirely on what gen 2 is like.

>> No.961660

they're already cannibalized by themselves, does anyone actually watch any of them?

>> No.961664

>>961645
You mean NijiEN first gen.

>> No.961687

>>961660
I watch Mori, Gura and Kiara fairly often, don't see the appeal of Ame and Ina tho.

>> No.961695

>>961660
I still don't understand how people can follow more than two. Who has that kind of time?

>> No.961697

>>961388
>Gen 2 will come out before Gura can collab with any big name or come out with an original song/merch
kek

>> No.961699 [DELETED] 

>>961645
>Codemiko
only based individual in that list

>> No.961705

>>961664
Needs Hero Hei then.

>> No.961726

>>961660
I watch Kiara and Ina if I catch them live. Kiara moving to my timezone will help a lot.

>> No.961754

There's a lot of dead time still. If they're smart they'll sort of their streaming times out so as not to overlap too much, or management will do it for them. If they're dumb they'll all try to go at 6-11 PM EST on random nights without consulting each other so you'll have 100% dead nights and then nights with 4 people streaming at the same time.

>> No.961755

>>961388
>Gen2
no such thing
vhore market is basically saturated right now

>> No.961775

>>961755
Are you retarded?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/li242u/press_release_second_round_auditions_for_vtuber/

>> No.961791

>>961687
Autism. I "work" from home and can still barely follow two.

>> No.961831

>>961791
? I don't watch all of their stuff, i just put on their vods sometimes if they play something that could be entertaining

>> No.961917

>>961695
Simple. You can't. I for one suffer pretty heavily from FOMO and I subscibe easily but have ahrd time unsubscrbing someone, meaning that across twitch and youtube, I'm probably subscribed to 40 or 50 chuubas (not all hololive) and my feed is beyond fucked. With that being said, I frequently watch the five ENs and a few indies (something like 8-9 in total), but I can only really do so because my uni is doing a digital-only semester because of the coof.

>> No.961951

>>961660
I used to watch Ame and Gura but I switched to Ina and Mori. Realized that they don't really appeal to me at all.

>> No.962018

man with the worlds smallest ballz here

>> No.962061

>>962018
I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually him and he has google alerts for his name set up

>> No.962065

>>961831
I can't even keep up with the vods for 2. Between boomers needing their Microsoft teams meeting and taking 30 minutes to explain a 5 minute concept, lifting, cooking and house work, it's almost impossible.

Imagine trying to explain how to calculate density to a boomer who doesn't get it. Even though you can literally google the formula. It was so bad the stakeholders cancelled the project and the problem still exists.

>> No.962118

>>961388
I hope so

>> No.962176

>>962018
In case you're for real...
You're cringe, but the good kind.
I will avoid you respectfully, unlike Schizo Hei.

>> No.962195

I predict it will be a "rising tide lifts all ships" situation and the numbers will not go down for anyone but will continue to increase as Hololive expands its fanbase in general. I think past generations have shown this to be the case.

>> No.962965

>Get my oshi to myself
Based Gen II

>> No.963025

>>962965
>you're one of the last 100 or so people watching your oshi
>she has developed a very clingy relationship with every single person in her chatroom
>now reads even the $10 superchats
>knows you by name
>asks how you've been when she sees you
>gets excited to see if you if you haven't been around in a while
>gets jealous if you mention other streamers
oh God please yes

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963038

>>961755
>no such thing

>> No.963047

>>961388
They're already declining, so gen 2 might not impact them so badly. I can see two other likely scenarios, one being they bring in a group that synergizes well and they boost everyone with collabs and two being a group targeting a new audience like european fans where they'll get more views but grow slower than gen 1

>> No.963075

>>963025
Literally watch smaller streamers...

>> No.963336

>>961645
>Woohoolad actually gets into gen 2
If this actually happens, I'll subscribe to him and support him to the bitter end. Purely because the idea of Woohoo-"man with the smallest balls"-lad collabing seriously with other hololive girls is comedy gold

>> No.963357

>>963047
The second option could be a clever one if they want to interest europeans. Only a few people are good enough in english to watch them. Besides weebs and ESLs, nobody has heard of vtubing here, as if it never existed.

>> No.963406

>>963047
>>963357
I can't wait for the "English Rose" norf vtuber

>> No.968708

I dont know what to expect but ii know its gonna be good

>> No.968807

>>961645
This but unironically.

>> No.968830

>>963336
Woohoolad for gen 2 is up there with my want of a gun nut for gen 2

>> No.969964

>gen2
>sounds like gentoo
hehe

>> No.970102

Imagine the following
>HolostarsEN announced and debut
>First one is a weird asian guy with a blue shirt
>The debut stream starts
>It's clearly papa Franku's voice
"Welcome to the rice fields motherfuckers"
How would you react?

>> No.973097
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973097

>>963025
>your oshi needs money to validate your existence
My Indie Oshi Smiles upon me for free! Can you say the same!
Pathetic.

>> No.973349

>>969964
>Penguin with tech experience
>plays coding games and teaches
>its linus tech tips

>> No.973616

>>970102
That would never happen just like Gura will never go back to being HER because they hate and cringe at their old fans and content

>> No.973779

>>973616
I don't think Gura cringes at HER at all, she's just too lazy to maintain two channels at once, especially given that it could cause some headaches given the situation.

>> No.981057

>>961388
I hope our precious HoloEN2 crow gets 3M before Gura

>> No.981241

I predict Gen 2 will have one really popular member that'll reach 1 million in no time.
The rest will have to work really hard to reach 450k+

>> No.981368

>>973779
https://streamable.com/vv10tl

>> No.981425

>>981241
This is realistic considering how well off with subs gen 5 and EN debuted, the hololive brand became a sort of seal of quality for normalfags.

>> No.984929

>>961388
They'd just beat Ina Kiara and Ame

>> No.985051

>>973779
Theres no way she didnt sign a contract stating she could not release any content outside of hololive

>> No.985164

>>985051
Doubt it considering that plenty of other holos, including EN, still have other active channels and carreers.

>> No.985171

>>961388
Meh, I think they'll be probably lower in terms of subscriber counts, or overtake up to Amelia. Those who probably left or stopped watching HoloEN1 but remained subscribed might come back and interest themselves on the newer talents. I doubt the crowd that are still here will jump ship to the next generation but those who stopped watching will flock to the newer talents.

>> No.985405

Just like how HoloID and HoloJP were cannibalized when the next generation shows up. Oh wait, it didn't. Just regular interest that ebbs and flows for who is more entertaining at that time. Nothing new. This isn't a Nijisanji situation. In fact, new generations like EN has raised the interest for the other HoloID and HoloJp groups more so than they did before. As long as they don't do a member dump like Nijisanji, growth resurgence is guaranteed every 4-6months so they never lose relevance.

>> No.985498

>>985405
is there a graph we can see comparing numbers between the en4 and en5? I'm probably wrong but I kind of felt that after the en5 debuts, the upward trend some of the en4's girls had going leveled out

>> No.985523

>>985498
gen** NOT en my bad im fucking retarted

>> No.985548

>>961660
I watch ina as often as I can, gura and ame fairly often, Calli occasionally (but all omori streams), and avoid the bird as much as i can.

>> No.985645

>>985164
No other holo maintains another vtubing/avatar channel. If gura wanted another channel, it would have to be a roommate channel.

>> No.985700

Watson...
Is going to be murdered when HoloEN 2 comes.

Can someone please remember to make a funeral post for our gremlin? She doesn't have any actual talent (art, music, languages) like the others and it's going to be rough.

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985735

>>985700
i honestly thought about this and it makes me sad cause she's my fav EN
Maybe she'll develop a smaller but more culty fanbase; ala Kiara

>> No.985766

>FamilyJules joins HolostarsEN
>His content is 90% music
>He only did it to get closer to his oshi Korone

I'm ready

>> No.985782

>>985700
She already started bleeding when Uto showed up.

>> No.988586

>>985735
Just SC more you dork. I send an extra amount when she does fakeouts like yesterday.

>> No.988830

>>985645
>it would have to be roommate channel
Yeah...? We were talking about her roommate channel.

>> No.988866

>>961388
I really doubt it, I get the feeling first gen is a bit like lightning in a bottle

>> No.988893

>>984929
Ame, as in the girl who's passed a million subs already? Did you mean Kiara and Ina cause they're both stuck around the 750k mark.

>> No.988905

>>988893
the goslingfags are fickle

>> No.988925

>>985766
>Jules drags Lyle into HoloStars EN2 splitting the OneyPlays fandom and starting more autistic bullshit.
2023's gonna be great.

>> No.988960

>>961660
What kind of retarded question is that? You're not supposed to watch everyone. I try to never miss my boy's or kiara's stream, I always watch Ina's vods. I sometimes watch Gura.
It's how it's supposed to me.

>> No.989007

>>961388
Gen2 will likely people that never done vtubing before (that are talented) or ones that you've never seen or heard of (needle in the haystack). All the well known western ones are kinda....well, shit.

>> No.989014

>>988893
I'm pretty sure Kiara/Ina are closer to around the 850k mark now, no?

>> No.993421

>>961695
it's easy if you don't have an oshi and work from home. I write rtos system and used to have Netflix or youtube running on a second monitor constantly. now it's pretty much always vtubers. I'd say I pretty reasonably keep up with 6 girls

>> No.993462

>>961754
I really hope we get some euros for gen2. I'm in the us but that's a time block that no one is in

>> No.997450

>>961645
Hero Hei and my boy Sseth too

>> No.997496

>>985645
Koko maintains her old channel.

>> No.997526

>>961388
Not how it works. Rising tide lifts all boats, holoen resulted in growth not just across all of hololive, but for indies as well.

>> No.997566

>>962065
>Imagine trying to explain how to calculate density to a boomer who doesn't get it.
Use the wood/rock/duck analogy from Holy Grail.

>> No.997603

>>963336
guy is cringy as fuck and so is anyone who likes him

>> No.997610

>>961645
>Nyanners
God I hate that cringy bitch.

>> No.997628

>>961664
I can believe this might happen, Niji is not searching for "Idol" material.

>> No.997648

>>961645
I don't think you could have put together a worse list. Well done!

>> No.997661

>>961660
I watch Ina's draw streams when I go to bed. I watch Calli when I get drunk with her. I watch any of them doing gameplay when I eat something. I listen to their chat-based streams as background noise when I play games. I fap to Calli's ASMR.

>> No.997667

>>997603
I used to watch him for news but doing 4Chan reps for those is considerably more entertaining.

>> No.1000307

>>997526
Truth is found in this post

There's too much nay-saying and misunderstanding of entertainment culture. I remember in college having DC/Marvel discussions with friends (back when I could afford that paper addiction).

I was a Marvel fan, but my preference didn't set back DC, and the people who bought DC didn't set back Marvel. Some of us would go on about the newest shit being printed by Marvel at our DC friends, my DC friends would sperg about their shit to us.

That's like saying "If you like Weird Al, you can't Like NPH's comedy music" or "if you like chocolate, you can't like strawberries"; you just sound like a retard.

>> No.1006508

>>961645
code miko isn't even fun to watch at all

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>numbers

>> No.1006911

>>961695
it's pretty easy when you work from home anon.

>> No.1012109

>>989007
I really hope that would be the case, I also would rather have someone not hailed from Twitch

>> No.1012499

>>961388
So long as there are no male talents I am not worried about whatever gen2 brings

>> No.1022308

>>1006911
...or the boss doesn't look at your screen.

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