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9532196 No.9532196 [Reply] [Original]

they had to know that making her this dark was going to hinder her. what the fuck?

>> No.9532226

>>9532196
Only the Japanese management knew. The new people in charge of EN had no idea

>> No.9532760

>>9532196
Same reason as Irys's tumblr design or Omega's non-binaryism. New manager (Omega) has a beard and identifies as a woman, and has a warped vision on what he wants Hololive to be like and it's falling flat. Only reason Omega has yet to debut is because not even the most proficient voice changers can hide the fact that he will never be a woman.

>> No.9532783

>>9532196
The only thing handicapping Sana is that Youtube punished her harder than the rest of gen2 for no reason.

>> No.9532805

Prove that she didn't ask for it

>> No.9532833

>>9532805
I can’t remember which chuuba said this but they were pretty clear that you don’t get input into the first design.

>> No.9533048

>>9532805
Kiara said they don’t pick their design. Go to 4:30 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgypgdaSd0&list=WL&index=4&t=280s

>> No.9533073

>>9532196
Racism is bad

>> No.9533132

Even though I linked that video showing they don’t pick their design, Sana is doing fine. Not sure why people complain about it.

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9533134

>>9532196
she’s not black she has a tan!

>> No.9533193
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9533193

>>9533073
U have 2 go back

>> No.9533272
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9533272

>>9532196
>it’s the skin color
Not the
>poor stream times
>horoscope steams

>> No.9533293

>>9533073
Why?

>> No.9533399
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9533399

>>9533272
Well the Rat is struggling too, but is never brought up for comparison.

This pic compares them.

>> No.9533530

>>9533399
This bitch keeps streaming at 2am

>> No.9533589

>>9533530
Which one? They both stream at bad times. Sana’s last stream was 4am PDT.

>> No.9533692

>>9533399
They both have good numbers. Just compare them to any 2view indie

>> No.9533762

>>9532196
What makes you think that her biggest problem is that she is brown instead of her shitty bushman voice or her basic bitch tastes?

>> No.9533911

>>9533762
She was lowest subs before she even debuted

>> No.9533977

>>9532226
They knew. They just wanted to "Make a change for the better, for diversity"

>> No.9534011

>>9532760
It's not Omega's fault. It's Holo JP for hiring the creature

>> No.9534023

>>9532760
ogey

>> No.9534040

>>9532196
Because its cute and /pol/trannies can keep seething.

>> No.9534152

>>9532196
If it were for the skin color then the anime adaptation of Nagatoro would've flopped monumentally.

It's her schedule.

>> No.9534266

Who cares? I'm glad she's failing for go woke go broke's sake. If not then expect EN gen 3 to have a vtuber with a hijab or something

>> No.9534292

>>9533073
Niggers made me racist.

>> No.9534301

>>9533911
Yes, but the youtube sub purges left her disproportionately behind her genmates. She wasn't 50% behind the rest when their channels went up.

>> No.9534321

>>9533977
>They knew. They just wanted to "Make a change for the better, for diversity"
[Sources cited] :

>> No.9534335

>>9532760
>New manager (Omega) has a beard and identifies as a woman, and has a warped vision on what he wants Hololive to be like
disgusting if true

>> No.9534347

>>9532196
>why
So that it would filter the trash. Worked for Flare.

>> No.9534357
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big ass and big tats they are soughting after THAT demographic

>> No.9534418

>>9532833
explain mumei

>> No.9534449

>>9533399
>>9533589
For me, Baelz always streams in the middle of the night or super early in the morning, so I can't catch her streams live

>> No.9534456

>>9534418
What's to explain? That they hired a good artist?

>> No.9534500

Risu skin color: 500k subs
Mel skin color: 600k
Rose skin color: 580k
Flare compton crip: 760k

Flare is 400k behind her less popular gen mate, but still ahead of some asian bitches big "white skin" and big tits..

>> No.9534506

>>9533911
So? The reason why she can't catch up now that she debutted is what I'm talking about.

>> No.9534529

The average nigger dont care about tits.
Be a good racist, please. Youre embarrassing us.

>> No.9534552

>>9534500
>Including Risu
Really?

>> No.9534623 [DELETED] 

>>9534500
>risu
idk
>mel
didn't stream much during the critical growth stage
>rose
got injured irl and some other shit during her critical growth stage
>flare
dark elf, not nig

>> No.9534649

>>9534456
looks eerily aimilar to her old model

>> No.9534682

>>9532196
Her only handicap is her shit accent and her boring content. Apart from her boring personality of course

>> No.9534710

>>9534506
Because of whatever reason they were lower before debut.

>> No.9534714

>>9534649
They look nothing alike, and it isn't her anyway.

>> No.9534787 [DELETED] 

>>9534623
anyone willing to have a slightly darker skin is probably a nigger irl

>> No.9534896

>>9532196
You are handicapping yourself by not watching her

>> No.9534908 [DELETED] 

>>9534787
Sana’s roommate is not black. I imagine it’s the same case for flare.

>> No.9535167

Why doesn't VShoujo have a black vtuber? That isn't very diversity of them.

>> No.9535304
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>>9532196
I can't speak for others, but design alone isn't enough for me to watch someone. I think Fauna has one of the better designs of the bunch, but I don't find her very entertaining to watch. In addition, if we're only talking about color then Flare's skin is also dark, yet she's doing fine.

>> No.9535354

>>9532833
>>9533048
Thank God this killed the schizos that used to unironically think the roommate had a say in what model they got.

>> No.9535378

>>9532196
They had to fill in diversity quotas because Cover is now pandering to sjws

Honestly if you ask me, dark skin doesn't fit her voice

>> No.9535396

>>9532760
>New manager (Omega) has a beard and identifies as a woman
t. schizo rrats?

>> No.9535416

>>9532196
There are dark skinned vtubers in JP you know? Some that are darker than Sana.

>> No.9535492

>>9533293
We are at the point where there is a character where only the model is brown and that's enough to trigger your tribal autism.

Any sort of bullshit theory you have on race superiority doesn't even apply since the character, the talent and the backstory have nothing to do with race and yet you can't get over the fact that her skin is the wrong shade.

It's just sad at this point.

>> No.9535538

>>9533589
Sana at least has some earlier streams.
rat only does it for collabs.

>> No.9535567

>>9532196
she looks cute though.

>> No.9535642

>>9534500
Why are you comparing shit outside their gen?
Flare has half the subs that all of her genmates have.
The closest is Noel and she has 550k more.
Even that is almost double.

>> No.9535688

>>9532760
>NOOOOO, IRYS HAS TO HAVE GENERIC ANIME GIRL MODEL #264237887
Look how well that is working out for Holo Council. Also, the model isn’t bad at all, you fags just have bad taste

>> No.9535733

>>9535304
>mogged so hard by her genmates that even Kiara feels sorry for her

She is in hololive so relative to indies she is doing fine.
But then Sana is also doing fine by those standards.

>> No.9535922

>>9535492
here's a reddit gold star 4 u my friend

>> No.9535985

>>9535922
I already knew racists are too retarded to have any kind of rebuttal.
You really didn't need to post.

>> No.9536118

>>9532833
Seems like it depends on the artist. That being said why is this still up?

>> No.9536179

>>9535985
I seen many say they’re racist and yet like Sana. You’re probably being too serious if you think many of these posts here are genuine. Most of this place is finding shit to target without much concern over details. Skin color is just another thing to grab.

>> No.9536237

>EN people truly are mad that Sana is tanned
She's not even properly black.
But imagine watching holos while being a racist, this is just peak hypocrisy.

>> No.9536264

>>9532196
She didn't choose to be born this way.

>> No.9536332

>>9535688
The model is shit, but I don't blame Redjuice.
Dude probably assumed Cover has actual artists and animators, not just some dudes copy pasting parts of his design on some planes.

>> No.9536357

>>9536179
>I was just pretending
I would prefer it if you go be a retard somewhere else.

>> No.9536395

>>9535985
rebuttal for what lol. i'm not going to argue with you about genetics

>> No.9536442

>>9536395
>genetics
>of a virtual avatar
I know I don't have any faith in yours anon.

>> No.9536517

>>9536442
>virtual avatar
>brings up racism
you are like sooo dumb ewww

>> No.9536531

>>9536332
Yeah, in the past people usually adapted his shit to look good animated. Cover hate.

>> No.9536547

>>9536357
I would prefer it if you actually quote me next time, or at least understand what I’m actually telling you. If you think people here are not trolling or looking for dirt against VTubets they dislike, explain why.

>> No.9536637

>>9535733
>14 videos
>over 150k subs
Exactly, she's barely been around for a month, is still on a collab ban, yet will probably reach around 200k subs soon. Objectively speaking, she's doing fine.

>> No.9536790

>>9536332
I genuinely don’t understand how you guys can find her model bad.

>> No.9536814

>>9534500
Flare has more stream hours than Risu Mel and Aki combined.

>> No.9536831

>>9532196
Hololive management is incompetent

>> No.9536835

>>9535416
>There are dark skinned vtubers in JP you know
why would anyone know? they have no reach because they have dark skin

>> No.9536852

>>9536790
Not everyone does

>> No.9536994
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>> No.9537023

>>9535416
Who

>> No.9537144
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9537144

>>9537023
From Niji alone

>> No.9537188
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9537188

>>9537023
>He doesn't know

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9537268

Flare is brown and has bright hair. With her new outfit >>9535304, she has one of the most pleasant hololive designs to look at.
I'm no artist/character designer, but there is something wrong about Sana's design, I just don't think that "being brown" is that much of a deal. Maybe is the dumb dangos or the mosquito spiral thing. Maybe she is just the wrong kind of brown or her hair not matching with it. Maybe the clothes are too simple. I dunno.

>> No.9537408

Everyone wanted a gyaru
They didnt get a gyaru
Thus the disappointed people ignore the not-gyaru

They should've gotten the hint from Flare

>> No.9537450

>>9532760
/pol/lacks are the most retarded people in existence, I swear to God

>> No.9537511

>>9532833
It was Kiara, bitch ain't afraid to tell the inner workings of Cover and yet (You) shit on her.

>> No.9537581

>>9537144
None of them are more popular than Sana

>> No.9537615

>>9532196
It just clashes with her color scheme.
They tried to make the color scheme clash so that fags like you would rrat

>> No.9537686

>>9537615
>It just clashes with her color scheme
Nigga you're stupid.

>> No.9537730

>>9537408
>no gyaru
>no loli
>no tanlines
What the were they thinking? It’s like they think they can do anything they want.

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9537830

>>9532783
don't make excuses, everyone suffered the same, and she always grew less than the others, even today

>> No.9537860

>>9536332
His design sucks. It's not the animation that's the problem, it's the design

>> No.9537895

>>9533589
she streams for australians

>> No.9537941

>>9532196
She's cute. Kind of ruined by having a boyfriend though.

>> No.9537973

>>9537941
0/10 bait. Try that on someone that isnt a fucking lesbian, kiddo

>> No.9537989

>>9537973
Bruv I wish she was like. Not gonna lie, but it ain't appnin' bruv.

>> No.9538007

>>9537408
>They didnt get a gyaru
Closest we have, personality-wise, is Polka.

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>>9537686
Okay retard

>> No.9538137

>>9538045
the same color scheme you find floating in the toilet

>> No.9538138

>>9537830
They lost half their subs, twice

>> No.9538188

>>9537268
People need to admit that the 90s anime face in current year is huge fucking debuff
Pandering to someone's nostalgia of Toonami just isn't going to cut it

>> No.9538227

>>9532196
>flare
>oga
>sana
every tan/dark holo is 10/10

>> No.9538238

>>9534321
Source: the EN manager is a muttoid

>> No.9538247

>>9532196
She's boring. Her tan isnt a factor here.

>> No.9538262

>>9538188
>People need to admit that the 90s anime face in current year is huge fucking debuff
not at all, thats great actually, they ruined it by making it brown

>> No.9538304

>>9538247
I should add her face and eyes look like something from an older gundam show.

>> No.9538377

who cares, her streams are fun and comfy

>> No.9538391
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9538391

I'm omniscient and can tell you why Sana is getting so few subs. You may want to take a seat, this will blow your mind

She wasn't "debuffed", she is just unlucky.

>> No.9538406

>>9538262
for (You), but it's objectively unpopular and the pre-debut numbers prove it

>> No.9538411

>>9532196
What???

>> No.9538468 [DELETED] 

>>9534908
Nobody knows what Sana looks like

>> No.9538507 [DELETED] 

>>9538468
We do actually.

>> No.9538532 [DELETED] 

>>9538468
She's literally the ugliest member of Hololive IRL.

>> No.9538533

>>9532196
Can you faggots get over her skin tone already?

>> No.9538537

>>9537730
There’s no tanlines because it’s not a tan

>> No.9538565

>>9538533
No

>> No.9538586 [DELETED] 

>>9538532
>>9538507
People say this about literally every new member, clockwork even

>> No.9538592
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9538592

>OMEGA I said my brush was a tool of honor. Not used for clout. Not used for identity. But now, now I'm not so sure. And besides, this isn't my brush.

>> No.9538608

>>9537730
Sana has little stars that look like tan lines. We can only pray that Susan let's us have hololive summer again and see if Sana gets the Matsuri treatment

>> No.9538668

>>9538608
100% the stars are like that because of how stars look in space anon, I wonder if people would have coped like this if flare debuted today

>> No.9538667 [DELETED] 

>>9538586
He’s wrong about her being ugliest.
Also her roommate is Asian.

>> No.9538691 [DELETED] 

>>9538667
You can be asian and have dark skin

>> No.9538715 [DELETED] 

>>9538691
What’s your need for her to be dark? I don’t get it. Does it matter?

>> No.9538737 [DELETED] 

>>9538715
That’s actually my question for you, why does it matter what her roommate looks like at all? Everytime it’s brought up it’s to cope with her model’s skin tone when it literally doesn’t matter

>> No.9538761 [DELETED] 

>>9538667
Some of the ID members may be slightly uglier, but Sana is the ugliest out of the EN and JP members.

>> No.9538781 [DELETED] 

>>9538737
All I did was correct someone, I didn’t say that I cared. You seem to care more.

>> No.9538809

>>9532760
Irys got the artist she wanted to design her, also we know nothing of who Omega is (other than she’s probably management).

>> No.9538811

Her face is just bad and looks like it was made by someone who was not quite professional, but was at least getting there.

>> No.9538812 [DELETED] 

>>9538761
>I haven’t seen Ina
No shit

>> No.9538842

>>9536790
It looks good save for the most important part (the face) which looks like an artifacted jpeg.

>> No.9538841 [DELETED] 

>>9538691
they're called indians anon

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>>9538668

>> No.9538871 [DELETED] 

>>9538781
Sure you don’t, I continue to doubt people know what she actually looks like since it’s only brought up for dumb shit like this.

>> No.9538906 [DELETED] 

>>9538871
Whatever gets you to bed at night.

>> No.9538907

>>9538668
Flare hates her design and admits it was a mistake because she knows that people dropped her the moment she wasnt a gyaru

>> No.9538913

>>9538852
Her entire design references space shit it isn’t supposed to be like a normal human, you won’t be seeing tanlines buddy

>> No.9538922

>>9537581
Ib absolutely is you fucking ape.

>> No.9538948

>>9538907
Flare hated her design because the original looks like shit, you weren’t there if you thought it was about being a gyaru

>> No.9538983

>>9538948
At least you figured out what the issue with Sana is. All that is left is for you to admit it.

>> No.9539021

>>9538983
Sana looks way better than flare did

>> No.9539040
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I mean I like chocolate skin and I make all my catgirls as tanned as her in FF14 but I don't enjoy her streams and the way she talks.

>> No.9539125

>>9538913
she lives in space, she literally gets unfiltered sunlight. when she's not in space, she is in australia where everyone is fried brown if they step outside for a second. tanning stickers are a thing, get real

>> No.9539137

>>9534152
Anon, the anime adaptation of Nagatoro did flop monumentally.

>> No.9539263

>>9539137
It flopped only for the twitter warriors that tried to cancel it day -1, financially it was a success

>> No.9539270

>>9539125
>applying logic to literal anime characters
I suppose she dyes her hair to represent the Milky Way and it just isn’t that way normally right? She’s not a fucking cosplayer

>> No.9539353

>>9534321
>Sources
Their fucking tranny manager, that's the source. You are probably it. Kill yourself you faggot and stop ruining hololive.

>> No.9539471

>>9539270
>these stars are there because of tanning stickers
>"NO THESE STARS ARE THERE BECAUSE OF SPACE"
>yes but tanning stickers are a thing that exist and it would make sense
>"DURR APPLYING LOGIC???"
i'm going to find out where you live and stab you in the throat while you sleep and find out where your family live while you quietly drown in your own blood so i can end them too

>> No.9539524

>>9532196
become An Hero.
>>9533193
you're the one that needs to go back. to your containment board.
>>9533293
because pretending that aesthetic differences make you a different species is the kind of thing only maximum level retards do.
>>9535492
it's pathetic, but that's not suprising with containment breaches from the absolute worst board on the site. I miss moot, if only because he made the jannies actually do something about that shit.
>>9535922
>I can't argue so I'mma cry plebbit
he's got the spacing, but it doesn't invalidate the point you refuse to actually engage.
>>9536395
well, it's good you're not wasting space arguing about things you don't understand, then, but you're still wasting space. neck yourself.
>>9538137
ain't been the colors I've seen in my toilet in the past year +. maybe you should consider a colonoscopy.
>>9538983
okay retard. let's just ignore the fact that flare's initial art is several tiers of quality below her newer art, and she didn't stop being caramel colored, and she's explicitly noted the shades were off and the overal quality was subpar.
>>9539137
[citation needed]

>> No.9539526

>>9539137
Nigger, it sold about 700. That's Fractale levels of flopping.
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/197699

>> No.9539562

>>9539471
The sooner you accept you’ll literally never get tanlines the better retard, not even her artist follows your belief when they draw her in different outfits

>> No.9539571

>>9539526
Meant for
>>9539263

>> No.9540129
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I'm so fucking tired of all the goddamn election faggots on this site. Dark skinned anime girls have always been a thing and they've always been smokin hot, and for years this was a happily accepted thing. But now frogposters have decided to see a transnigger bbcock boogieman in everything they interact with and everything sucks now. I'm so fucking over it.

>> No.9540274

>>9535304
agree with this. fauna has the best design but she and her streams are very boring

the fact that she was snakey pre-debut didn't help her in my case

>> No.9540311

>>9540129
Sana is the ugliest brown anime chick I've seen in years

>> No.9540324

>>9539040
funny i see this image here when it was the exact image in a reddit post in /r/ffxiv that i found from 4 years ago

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>>9540129
what do you expect from schizos that look for problems everywhere they go, yet they call others oversensitive snowflakes.

also inb4 some fag replies to you with ">tumblr gif" because they have no true argument to help defend the voices in their head

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>>9532196
The dark skin isn't a problem. It's her design in general that looks like crap. You can have brown girls that look great, like pic related. Sana just isn't one of them.

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>>9539137
>>9539526
why do you guys act like the niche blu-ray sales are the deciding factor if a series did well or not, when for the last decade streaming stats has been the most important number for success as streaming revenue earns way more than blue-rays sales at the fraction of the cost.

It was the 4th most watched anime from official streaming services it's season, which is the important number for streaming profits.

And that's not even including the Chinese streaming sites.

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>>9540311

>> No.9540859

>>9540740
this i'll agree with, and I love Sana.
Pako can't draw attractive women.

Honestly Sana's roomate should've just drawn her model, she has the cute style down to a T.

>> No.9540893

>>9532196
that's the least of her problems lol

>> No.9540930

ITT: newfags who don't know that there's nothing special about an anime character with dark skin. See for example Nadia in 1990.

>>9539263
"Flop" in the context of anime means someone didn't like it. For example, if you didn't like Demon Slayer, then you'd say that it flopped. This is what happens when a society doesn't practise eugenics.

>> No.9541008

>>9540765
Anons definitely know what they are talking about

>> No.9541112

>>9532196
She's a sacrifice for the wokesters. Also why every future potential hire needs to make sure they aren't stuck with the affirmative action character design and just drop out immediately if that is the case.

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9541181

>>9532196
Don't like it? Great, more chocolate boobies for me!

>> No.9541236

>>9533048
It's so weird to think that Huke thought that design with the two hats, slutty microskirt, and vomit pastel colors looked good, and Cover let that shit pass through the concept phase instead of just telling him to draw the usual dark and gothic shit that everyone loves.

>> No.9541330

>>9541236
I don't fully buy it, Kiara obviously had a hand in her design, she must have found the two hats funny or they would have at least removed one of them from the start (she could also swap her hats herself from the start). How the alternative outfit turned out proves it.

>> No.9541351
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9541351

HoloEN 2 Superchat earnings
Sana
>$25,938
Fauna
>$24,118
Kronii
>$61,918
Mumei
>$26,269
Baelz
>$18,100
Sana is doing fine, I don't know why people are acting like she's "flopping' when she's doing just as well as everyone else her gen with Kronii being the outliner.

>> No.9541401

>>9540765
Because numberfagging is eternal and almost always done at the most surface-level way possible as an excuse to shitfling

>> No.9541410

>>9532196
Being brown is fine.
The problem is she's very ugly.

>> No.9541475

>>9541410
>The problem is she's very ugly.
Her outfit? Maybe. She is a generically cute anime girl though anon.

>> No.9541547

>>9541351
For now I'm still earning more than them after Holo and YouTube take their cut or else I might just give up and become a vtuber myself.

>> No.9541609
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>>9532196
literally did nothing

>> No.9541624

>>9541351
Pity donations arent a sign of a chuuba doing well or having longevity
Source: Kiara being consistently #2 in superchats behind Mori for the first 4 months
She still has the least EN1 subs and has the least viewers

>> No.9541703

>>9541547
that's like, a weeks pay. you make that in a week? even assuming they only get 30%

>> No.9541744

>>9541475
Her avatar is just nowhere near the level of quality as literally every other holo. Just take Flare's newest costume as example.

>> No.9541743

>>9541351
And to think that retards still say HoloEN2 is a failure.

>> No.9541868

>>9541624
uhh, money isnt a measure of success? subscribers don't mean longevity either you know right? kizuna ai still has more subs than most of hololive. barely anyone watches that channel anymore. subs without viewers actually ruins your traction in the algorithm.

>> No.9541874

>>9541703
wtf i thought it was earned to date. wtf am I doing with my life.

>> No.9541959

>>9541624
This girl could be making $1m on every stream from now until her graduation, and you fucks would still be calling it "pity" donations.

There's no winning with you people.

Subs don't mean anything at the end of the day if you're not raking in money.

>> No.9541988

>>9541874
yeah, they JUST got the ability to monetize. what date were you starting from?

>> No.9542636

It's not even the color that completely fucked her, it's the model/proportions. Even when they teased the silhouettes in the dumbass lore video I thought she looked weird as fuck

>> No.9542879

>>9541351
Anya gets more superchats than most JP girls just because of saviorfags
Doesnt mean she is doing fine in terms of viewers when she cant get to 1k viewers on her own even after gura and fucking kojima tries to boost your stream

>> No.9542907

Why does everyone love nagatoro but not sana?
Neither of them are niggers btw just tanned asians.

>> No.9542978

>>9537830
what the hell, how is Kronii so high?? am I missing something?

>> No.9543010

>>9533692
Why should they be compared to 2views when they're in the biggest Vtuber company known in the west? Even compared to the 5th Gen they're doing really bad. They were supposed to go beyond HoloMyth

>> No.9543069

>>9542978
>great voice
>good design by one of the most popular fate artists
>entertaining
>tits
Dont get what you are confused about

>> No.9543084

>>9537581
Ibrahim consistently gets more views AND superchats than Sana desire being completely unknown to EOPs.

>> No.9543125
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9543125

>>9532196
I know right? They should have made her darker.

>> No.9543162

>>9543125
This is unironically better

>> No.9543229

>>9532196
It's already tiring hearing this retarded excuse. Susan fucked her over, she's streaming at the worst imaginable hours, she's only streaming debuff content and hides her real talent, she's kind of dull (but still loveable, don't get mad sanafags), her shtick is boring (BEEG LOL XD) etc etc. It has nothing to do with her fucking skin color. Just look at how much people love Jahy for reference.

>> No.9543234

>>9543125
Non ironically way better (except for the outfit colour), and I usually hate darker skin. That's how bad the original is. Goddamn.hm0na

>> No.9543287
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9543287

>>9542978
>open kronii stream
>she incentivizes superchat war
200% whore tactic.

>> No.9543311 [SPOILER] 
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9543311

>>9543125
MADE FOR BWC

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9543330

>>9532196
>Be darkskinned
>Get in from being a friend of someone already in
>Mediocre outside of your interest in astrology and drawing
>Get fucked by susan daily
>Decide to do horoscope streams

The debuffs write themselves at this point

>> No.9543359

>>9532196
>>9532760
GO BACK TO YOUR FUCKING CONTAINMENT BOARD

>> No.9543369

>>9543125
This actually looks better

>> No.9543560

>>9532196
She has a bad design but not because of the skin color.
They should have made her a flat loli with black hair and exposed midriff or a full on gyaru and either one would've been amazing. Instead they went with some weird abstract design that appeals to no one.

>> No.9543692

>>9543330
Watch the stream first. Horoscopes dont tell you that you will get a chainsaw on a toilet paper island

>> No.9544041

>>9532196
They know they’ve opened the gates to Americans and it’s too late to go back, so they tossed them a dark skin chuuba to keep them happy for a couple years. Omega hurt that effort a bit with the non binary bs but looks like that crowd didn’t flood in

>> No.9545254

>>9543311
Those collarbones look very wrong. They're not supposed to sit that low on the rib cage

>> No.9545304

>>9543125
They were trying to avoid digital blackface which would be a bigger yab in the western fanbase

>> No.9545970

>>9543560
yes these would also be acceptable options

>> No.9546609

>>9532196
Why are people so focused on her appearance? Isn't the content of her streams more important

>> No.9546704

>>9546609
If she was hosting a podcast

>> No.9546852

>>9546609
to continue, there is an aesthetic overlay over every bit of content she puts out.
All content will be multiplied by that overlay to create a hue on the general mood.
If done well, it can be a massive buff.
If done badly, it can be a massive debuff.
Aesthetics and visual storytelling 101

>> No.9547005

>>9546609
Yes, but her appearance is cute regardless. These people might just be gay, desu.

>> No.9547058

>>9547005
If you primarily get your sexual satisfaction from artificial corporate anime girl avatars, you might not be gay, but you ain't straight.

>> No.9547136

>>9532760
IRyS was done by Redjuice a well known artist and one that she really wanted.

>> No.9547567

Accent filters me

>> No.9547845

>>9532196
People can only spend so much time watching vtubers and her schedule is bad for 90% of those that would.

>> No.9548830

>>9547567
Do people really hate it that much? It's not the first time I see this one coming. Sure she sounds a bit dorky but after a while you notice that it actually fits her personality, real one not the lore one.
As for her tanned skin I find it actually fucking hilarious how some seems to hate her for being *black* while the girl herself is probably the whitest of the white considering where she comes from.

>>9540129
>frogposters
I've warned you people years ago about this. Frogposters are one of the worst thing that happened to this place.

>> No.9550021

>>9532196
Because she's cute

>> No.9551846

>>9537511
surely you cannot mean Kiara "i had full input on my hats, skirt, thighs, belt, weapons, costume?". They probably told her she would be a Phoenix, and she still managed to fuck it up

>> No.9553491
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9553491

>>9537268
Different strokes for different yolks I guess. I like Sana's design, but then again I also really like brown.

>> No.9557294

This shit being reposted constantly pisses me off, it’s not covers fault

>roommate is good friends with pako
>roommate designed the character, pako drew it
>roommate likes abbo/tan character designs

>> No.9557455

>>9557294
Why doesnt she draw tanned chracters then?

>> No.9557708

>>9557455
Did you even fucking look, she draws them all the time. She even had a book dedicated to one

>> No.9557953

Model debuff is not the melanin content. Its the fact that she looks like something a highschooler with a "how to draw anime" book would draw. That and the primarily male audience doesnt care about horoscopes. And the AU stream times not lining up with the rest of the english speaking world.

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9558031

>>9557294
Isn't it just easier to say they like dark skin characters

>> No.9558306

>>9538922
who

>> No.9558570

>>9547136
It is an amazing model, but it doesn't fit with the others and is somewhat hampered by being cut off at the waist - it really looks designed to be seen all at once.

>> No.9558660

>>9557708
Sorry I only checked her twitter media for the last year. Maybe I need to conduct a indepth study on her art.

>> No.9558721
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9558721

>>9548830
Stereotypes are bad anonkun.
I'm a semi-racist frogposter and I think her design looks better with darker skin.
Don't get the genuine people confused with people just trying to confuse and anger you.
They exist at all levels of political discourse.
People are always trying to sabotage things for no reason. You should not draw conclusions about whole groups based on this.

>> No.9559897

>>9532196
Genuinely why mods doesnt ban racist posts like this?

>> No.9559987

Please keep making more threads about Sana, there is no bad press

>> No.9560015

>>9559897
No, no, anon, haven't you heard? Asserting that racism is the cause for all of someone's problem is the wokest shit that ever was! This post deserves the reddit gold you're obviously after.

>> No.9560371
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9560371

>>9532196
it's pretty sad that brown handicaps and unironically makes her sub count that much lower for no fault of her own. I don't believe you can even call this racism as it's just what the collective penis involuntarily feels but it is sad. a sad statement on humankind

as a manlet I also have a large debuff so I can sympathize

>> No.9560397

>>9535492
So in other words you're a racist who thinks people should be forced to like a character just because they're a certain color. Why can't people like who they want to like?

>> No.9560532

>>9532196
I think hte main problem with her design is the late 90s/early 00s artstyle and those stupid planet shit on her hair

>> No.9560583

>>9532196
It's not the fact that she's dark but the fact that she's a bogan

>> No.9560660

>>9560583
great so you're racist and classist

>> No.9560694

>>9538537
I'm aware of that. I was lamenting the lack of charm points aside from booba

>> No.9560822

>>9560660
go back to plebbit

>> No.9560866

>>9537144
>Gwelu Os Gar
Gwelu Gara my wife just died LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!

>> No.9561101

>>9532760
Omega isn't non binary, retarded
She is androginous on purpose, she revels in the mistery
Revealing that she has a vagina would ruin her image and appeal, so she just said "Idk, call me whatever you want" in the most "professional and mysterious" way possible

>> No.9561159

>>9560822
4chan has been a colony of reddit since 2015.

>> No.9561338

>>9560822
I've been here since 2007 which is probably longer than you and also longer than reddit has been the boogeyman

why you gotta be classist and racist?

>> No.9561386

>>9561338
edit: thanks for the gold!

>> No.9561573

>>9537581
The absolute state of EOP retards

>> No.9563626

>>9561338
Why are you an idiot who thinks ignoring that class and race matter makes you enlightened instead of willfully ignorant?

>> No.9567825

>>9563626
I can classify people into distinct groups without hating those groups for things beyond their control

>> No.9568863

>>9561101
hope and cope that you are right anon, if they hired one of those ugly western trannies hololive is only going to go downhill

>> No.9569050

>>9560371
Well if only counting Gen2, Sana made the most in SC for today, although Kronii didn’t stream.

>> No.9569354

>>9537450
>/pol/lacks
I get that board sent your friends to the grave early by shitposting but that doesnt mean you should cry about offtopic boards, troon

>> No.9570403

>>9543125
Why does this fit so well?

>> No.9570584

>>9532196
It's not the skin, she has literally the same color as Flare.
It's the shitty 80's anime face , the horrible model and the terrible rigging.
I can't stand ten minutes watching her before getting viscerally angry

>> No.9570658

>>9532760
Based and redpilled

But lets hope this isnt actually true

>> No.9570664

>>9532196
If she didn't move around so much it wouldn't be so bad. Sana is way too bubbly for her model to keep up.

>> No.9570772

>>9537860
the animation is also crap tho, most of the stream her face barely moves.

>> No.9570854

omega is literally a supreme god that surpasses concepts like gender. it's amazing amount of cope and obsession for people to miss this and think they have anything to do with trannyism

I'd say they're the Abrahamic God which they clearly are (even though called he and father, doesn't actually have a physical gender)

>> No.9570962

>>9532196
Cover commissioned her in fiverr. Confirmed.

>> No.9571061

You guys want to see what a good tan vtuber is like? She's streaming right now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXsvscz7DBQ

>> No.9571221

>>9541624
>Pity donations arent a sign of a chuuba doing well or having longevity
>Source: Kiara
why would you immeditatly go to the money mog queen as someone who isn't successful. brain worms

>> No.9571271

>>9542879
let me quickly break down what corps care about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P2qL3qkzk

>> No.9571347

>>9571061
made sure to dislike and report her stream marketer kun

>> No.9571506

>>9537581
Actually the guy at the bottom left gets more live views than her.

>> No.9571550

>>9543125
Honestly if they gave her black hair instead of doing the same brown skin = white hair trope it would look way better.

>> No.9571597

>>9571347
no no, he has a point. cuter color choice.

>> No.9571664

>>9542978
Kronii is unironically carried by “i settle for this” everyone else is so lackluster that the bar is low.

>> No.9571696

>>9543069
>interesting
>Kronii
Choose one Anon

>> No.9571778

>>9541351
Wow Hololive fans really like the most boring ones in the group Holy shit how did Flare become less popular than Marine. Maybe JP fans actually have brains.

>> No.9571832

>>9571778
>Wow Hololive fans really like the most boring ones in the group Holy shit how did most boring girl in her Gen become less popular than Extremely charismatic and entertaining girl in the same gen.
I don't even dislike Flare but your being a dummy.

>> No.9571917

>>9571832
I don’t dislike Flare either I said boring. Ina is fucking boring but that doesn’t mean I hate her.

>> No.9572293
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9572293

>>9532196
Oh great, this thread again.

>> No.9572725

>>9560660
Piss off, you don't belong here

>> No.9573510

>>9532196
There might be a small percentage of people who didn't subscribe to her because of her skintone, but the biggest turn off is definitely her design. Also being nuked the most by Susan doesn't help

>> No.9573566

>>9532196
Fuck you OP. Her design is a pleb filter. It will never fail to get my dick hard

>> No.9573624

>>9573566
this, the reason she has the least subscribers is because she filters out the amerisharts, which improves her immensely anyway

>> No.9573773

>>9572725
I belong here. you don't. you probably came here in 2015 or something equally pathetic

>> No.9575158

>>9559897
>Genuinely why mods doesnt ban racist posts like this?
Because we're inside a containment board. If you see shit in /here/ that offends you, that means it's working.

>> No.9576862

>>9532196
The only issue i have with her design is her stupid sidekick symbol thing, it looks stupid and stands out as a particularly shitty gimmick.
Didn't think much of her before the mincraft collab with Fauna but after that i'm sold, on both of them.

>> No.9577265
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9577265

>>9537268
it's just her model. Pako's recent art of her looks pretty good and of course majority of her fanart makes her look real good

>> No.9577371

>>9543125
>duhhh this unironically looks good !
I cant believe I share this thread with blacks

>> No.9577396

>>9540274
>she was snakey pre-debut
Elaborate please.

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9577488

>anime brown representing anything but anime brown
>anime brown being a problem
Where do you people come from?

>> No.9577573

>>9577488
>Kagura
Truly a man of culture, also i can't believe i remembered her name, i haven't watched that since it aired.

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