/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>939141
Once Gen2 debuts, her time is up...

>>939141
seethe harder kfp :^)

homosexual anónimo de los números

>>939141
generating forced drama will put her on life support at least

Doubt she graduates, but it's her own fault her views are tanking

Once the shit happened with her schedule changes it left a bad taste in many peoples mouths.

Say what you want, but that was literally a change made cause she's lazy as fuck and it shows. Couldn't even keep a proper schedule for over 3 months.

That fucking week where all she did was basically random shitty Apex and Minecraft streams hurt her a lot. She's been trying to fix it, but once people gone, they usually don't come back.

She's at her best playing fps and she keeps playing mario, wich is a terrible game for her

Her Supa Sundays used to hit 8-14k live viewers and now she's lucky to hit 4k

>>939141
What's her appeal? She has no discernible talents and a flat voice.

>>939141
The fact that she can only pull 7k when she's the only one streaming is pretty alarming. Although I doubt someone who used to stream for less than 100 people is sweating over these numbers. I think she's smart enough to find a way to appeal to hololive fans and turn it around. Kiara will be the first to graduate imo.

>>940056

That's cuz she doesn't do anything interesting anymore. All she does is play Mario and do watchalongs which are literally the worst type of stream. Who tf has time for that shit

>>939141
If Iofi could make it this far, she too

>>940056
Super readings are terrible, I usually prefer them at the end of the stream like the other talents, I don't know why she does this

You fags care about numbers more than amelia ever will

>>939141
> she's lucky to even get more than 8k viewers at any given moment.
>Will she be the first to graduate?

you say that my dear numberfag but I've seen Kiara with 2k viewers in normal streams (and drop to 1.2-1.7k viewers at SCs reading) and she's just fine.

>>939141
8k more than you. some holos average at 3k and they aren’t going anywhere.

Her game choices and watch alongs are probably hurting her numbers but she isn't any less entertaining.
She's definitely got some talent when it comes to presentation though. When she really tries she has some professionalism to her.
Her views are a bit of a rollercoaster so I expect them to go up for a bit soon.

Look at the game's she's playing. Oblivion, Mario (again) and Nier. All absolute borefest games to watch. No clue what she's thinking

>>939141
Nice b8 m8 I r8 it 8 out of 8.

This bitch is boring as fuck. I'm glad she's losing views, but holofags on reddit and discord will act like everything is a-ok.

>>939957
No one liked watching her FPS streams and she hated playing them because she'd just rage and chat would call her toxic. Also her internet is terrible.

>>940195
I actually like her super sunday format because I can just skip them as I haven't donated any superchats. Opening a Kiara stream and seeing it be 5 hours long with only 1 hour of gameplay is dumb.

>>940244
Oblivion is entertaining because of the horrible voice acting and bugs

>>939141
wouldn't be missed. she's a boring watch carried by a strike zone for some design
in her defense i honestly think she's hurt the most by gura(fans) causing the collab ban, in a group she plays off of and others play off her personality and she's a lot more tolerable and even adds something
her solo streams are terrible she doesn't deserve big numbers.

>>940260

How is this bait. She's leaking views and that's a fact

This thread again? My god this whole board is overrun with bots

>>940310
What ban

>>940310
The collab ban only applies to Gura, and it's probably more her own personal autism and not wanting to embarrass herself.
The other girls have been consistently doing collabs with JP and ID senpais. The exception Mori doesn't really wanna collab with JPs. She said herself she wants to do her own thing because they won't let her collab with indies.

>>940299

It's entertaining for the first hour. After that it's boring. "Haha old shitty game" can only carry you so far

>>939141
Her and Kiara are the only talentless girls in En which makes their content repetitive and annoying.
>Ina can draw
>Gura can sing
>Mori can do everything that the above 2 can, plus she has a bunch of other skills such as animation which she hasn't even shown on stream yet
Kiara and Watson bring nothing new to the table.

I think she needs to lean more to her fan generated content, the "smol ame" shit literally saved her channel once before.

>Don't superchat me! I won't read them!
>Changes schedule on a whim
>Only talent is play video games
>Can't sing, can't draw, can't speak Japanese
Honestly the first reason it's what will kill her, moving all superchats to sunday make for a tedious as fuck video.
Why is she so autistic about superchats?

>>939141
I just don't find Mario Galaxy that interesting for let's plays. I've played it a billion times before.
Call me back when she plays Psychonauts.

>>940396
>Gura can sing
Too bad she nerfs her voice when not doing members streams because she hates her fanbase. She hasn't had a good non-members performance since her post-debut Karaoke stream.

>>939141
Nah Kiara is guaranteed first to graduate, she is a lolcow waiting to happen.
Ame is fine, she's real popular among the horny crowd because of her thickness.

>>940396
Still waiting for a InaMori drawing & animation collab desu.

>>939141
>kiara is off for a bit shift the shittyness to amelia!!

begone

>>940414

Imo the schedule bullshit hurts her the most. Once she started messing with it too much I dipped to Ina. At least she's consistent

I'm still waiting for her to play Cyberpunk.

>>939867
I agree doing it that abruptly hurt her, even I dropped off of her streams a bit after, but in general not having a schedule isn't the issue. Most of the JP holos don't have schedules. Difference is they still plan out their streams and announce them in advance, whereas what Ame did was suddenly start spamming gorilla streams, which isn't the same thing, and not the best idea.

>>940463

InaMori don't work so well together. When they did that weird fighting game it was awkward as hell. Felt like they don't talk outside of videos at all

>>940445
This. It won't be long before Kiara's past comes back to haunt her, or she flips out and goes nuclear in a stream and says/does something that can't be fixed.

>>939141
ogey

>>940390
Is Gura banned from collabing?

>>939141

>>940503

Issue is, her fanbase got used to the schedules and she thought she can suddenly drop it and go all gorilla streams with no consequences. News flash, most people can't just sit down for 4 hours to watch a stream without at least some planning. The more Gorilla streams she did the less I watched of her

>>940534
Why is Kiara past so volatile or dangerous?
Give me your rrats schizo.

>>940396
Ame's talent is being entertaining and Kiara's talent is creating drama

>>939141
needs to show honkers

>>940579
She's not, she just has autism. The collab ban was something thought up by bumchuds to blame Enma for Gura's autism, because Coco mentioned in a members stream that Enma has been ghosting her requests for a collab with the EN girls.

>>940600
That's not a talent; that's just what women normally do.

>>940483
Please no
That would be the ultimate fucking borefest. Cyberpunk is unwatchable.

>>940120
nah that pink girl that sounds like a man will be the first to graduate

>>940120
Why would Kiara graduate?
This is pretty much the best thing that ever happened to her and immensely improved her life.

>>940635
ENMA won't let Coco spoil EN.
Good for her, you want them saying motherfucker every five minutes and cursing like sailo...wait that already happens.

>>940503
>gorilla streams
Please tell me English isn't your first language

>>940691
Because imagine how satisfying it would be to see her lose that.

>>940396
mori sounds like a man. Her singing is horrible.

>>940515
Both passionately hate each other and think their drawing is better than the other.

>>940579
Probably not. But she has low confidence and needs to make a talk deck at times just for herself.
Collabing with a JP brings that confidence to zero.
She collabs the most with Ame because they have the same sense of gremlin humor.

>>940593
Same, I still like her, but I went from catching nearly every stream and checking the schedule frequently to catching maybe every other stream or just part of it and never checking the schedule.

>>940503
>gorilla streams

>>940713
Meds now.

>>939141
Ame's fault for giving her back to superchats.

>>940697
>"Fuck you, you little bitch"
That was so god damn hilarious and came out of nowhere on Amelia's stream.
The way she talks to chat is my favorite thing about her.

>>940716
based fuck that tranny

>>940716
>Her singing is horrible.
Yes, but her rapping isn't.

>>940699
They frequently joke about that you fucking casual. Ina literally uses gorilla thumbnails

Thatsthejoke.jpeg

>>940699
uh, my school kinda glossed over everything after the 1950s so my Vietnam knowledge is lacking... American education everyone...

>>940396
>bunch of other skills such as animation which she hasn't even shown on stream yet
Wtf is she waiting for?

>>940716
I like her singing in the Holo Alternative video.

>>940713
touch grass

If I were in a room and had a gun with two bullets, and an numbersfag and an annoying orange fag were in there, I would shoot the numbersfag twice.

>>940858
That's because it's edited to shit

>>940853
She said she wants to keep that part of her life separate. Maybe she doesn't enjoy it and only thinks of it as a job, or maybe she realizes people would recognize her style. But that's retarded since she was doxxed before she even debuted.

>>939141
the rrats are eager today its still early in the morning

>>940838
Guerilla tactics were used in the American Revolution

>>940881
She performed well in the Takamori karaoke stream as well in my opinion.

>>940945
oh shit u right

>>940945
Brah who cares

>>940810
She needs a ghost writer. Her delivery is ok but her actual raps are pretty meh

>>939141
Ame will be the last one from HoloEN to graduate because she needs it more than anyone else.
Ina is just doing this as a side gig, figuring she may as well get paid while doing shit she would be doing during her free time anyway.
Kiara used Hololive as a rebound and doesn't truly want to be hiding behind an avatar.
Mori is just using it as a stepping stone for her music career.
Gura is getting bored of being confined to a company, resorting to wanting to make clips and 'variety' streams to keep things fresh. Plus she has HER to fall back on.

>>941079
what is the endgame for artists like ina anyway? she seems to be really satisfied and happy when she does her drawing streams.

>>940858
Really? I'm okay with Calli's raps but her singing and accent were pretty terrible in the HoloALT video. The whole time I was thinking they should've had Gura sing it if they were trying to give exposure to an EN girl.

None of the HoloENs will ever graduate they're going to be my friends forever :)

>>940838
Don't blame the American education system for your inability to pay attention during school.

>>940993
kys, not knowing basic facts doesn't make you cool

>>941144
Ina's really already "made it" as an artist. She gets jobs making art for gachas, etc. often, and now she even has a side gig that netted her almost a million followers.

>>941183
ok this is far too much discussion about me misspelling a word. This is an Ame thread, not one about the American education system.

>>940414
>Can't speak Japanese
Dogshit idea here, but am I the only one who thinks that anyone who joins HoloEN should have some knowledge of Japanese or at least willing to learn the basics of it? Wouldn't it make management more willing to do collabs or allow them to draw in more JP viewers?

>>939141
She is a fun EN idol. If I had to list a con, she sometimes slips back into a twitchthot persona. But other than that I will continue to support her.

>>941144
Ina is already end game. She’s extremely successful outside of hololive

>>941079
>Plus she has HER to fall back on.
Can you imagine the rrat baby boom that'd happen, if she starts uploading meme clips to HER channel?

>>940810
her raps are trash

>>941153
Just like High School anon, just like High School...

>>939141
She is not Kiara to be numberfagging

Also take your meds.

>>941239
>>941390
oh ok then. i thought of it as side gig meaning eventually she'll leave to pursue something greater. whatever that is. guess not. real happy for her

>>941251
Yeah, I really think Gen 2 could benefit from all of the girls (if none are fluent already) having weekly JP learning streams that are actually consistently scheduled considering how many opportunities Gen 1 is losing just because their Japanese (minus Kiara) is shit.

>>940396
How can other girls even compete with my boy?

What she needs to do is play shorter games.
LA Noir
Outer Wilds
Mario Galaxy
Oblivion
Nier Automata
These are all way too long and take too many stream slots to finish.
Even though I loved her Outer Wilds and LA Noire streams it's just not the way to go. Journey and Smol Ame were a hit.

>>941456
>weekly JP learning
The audience doesn't have the stamina to power through 2 years of language learning streams.

>>941490
Why do females think being able to use basic computer programs is a skill

>>941456
They would be better off just studying in their spare time. Classroom-style lessons are absolute trash for language learning.

I thought I was a negative person, but the people on this board really take the cake. Do you have a doomposting fetish or something?

>>941538
Left side are her actual skills. Ignore the right column.

>>941079
>and doesn't truly want to be hiding behind an avatar.
For that reason alone she will graduate first and honestly any minute now
She is one period day away from doing some absurd shit like doxxing herself or others on purpose
Mori is clearly the same too since she expressed hating that she can't ever be recognized on the street as a musician, but she's too level headed to self-destruct like Kiara

>>941538
It's a resume, Fucko, she's advertising that she's not some shitheel that just came off the street.

You'd be surprised how incompetent regular jackoffs are.

>>941598
Yes, it's literally how I cope

>>941501
>>941580
I would totally sit through a weekly language exchange between an EN girl and a language partner (especially if one happens to be a JP girl).

>>941608
They understand shit won't transfer right?
People are here for the personality, yes, but it's the avatar that hooked people and like it or not the visual part holds as much as the personality part.

>>940878
I would just shoot myself 2bh

>>941490
I don't get why Mori and Ina don't collab often. They both share the same skills. Ina even did a drawing collab with Iofi, why not with Mori?

>>940598
>Failed idol
>Costhot
>Literal whoring
>Failed getting into gen 5
>Gets assigned to the containment branch

>>941910
These aren't even rrats though, it's the truth.

>>940107
le gaymer girl gremlin

>She can't sing.
All you need to know.

>>940107
Her voice is her only strength. She has more speaking range than any of the EN girls. Otherwise she's just pretty much a variety streamer.

>>941608
Why the fuck would anyone who isn't and egomaniac want to be stopped on the street by some dickhead telling me they like my content?

Buy the merch, donate to the Patreon, and let me enjoy my free time in peace.

Please ame, play hots again.

Kek why are holo enfags like this?

Do people here really believe and bet if and when which holo graduates first? You guys sound really negative...why don't you just enjoy the content?

>>942285
>>>/reddit/

>>942285
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE A THOUGHTLESS CONSUUUUUUUUMER!
That said: Vtuber futures being speculated upon is part of the community. Don't like it? Don't be a fan of any celebrity.

>>942285
you must be fun at parties. its for the sake of discussion retard. besides its entertaining to see what others have to say about it

>>941608
>She is one period day away from doing some absurd shit like doxxing herself
She literally once posted with her other channel in her chat "accidentally".

>>942321
>>942335
>>942418
Being negative doesn't make you interesting.

>>940161
Of course she won’t graduate, people are just trying to shit on her.

>>942321
ogeyy
>>942335
>>942418
Speculating what the Vtuber has in mind for the future is one thing.
To have pointless discussions about which fanbase is better than the other and hope that they fail is another. Sounds similar to those pathetic console war threads.
I hope you will become more postive in the future

>>939141
Has hololive ever graduated somebody just because of a low viewcount?

>>942768
No. Which is why this discussion is pointless

>>942684
>Speculating what the Vtuber has in mind for the future is one thing.
ok
>and hope that they fail is another
and when the fuck did i say that? dont put words in my mouth because at the end of the day i wish the best for them

>>942603
go back upvoting the hundredth best girl yagoo meme. because surely thats way more interesting

Took one click to see 10k watching her stream right this moment
what a trash post and waste of brain space

>>939141

>>942876
No, not you directly, but I meant rather that the whole theme of the thread is about that

>>942768
No. It's a pointless thread. I guess people here just want to shit on vtuber.

>>939141
anon she will never go sub tenma numbers so she will aways have a job

>Amelia finally fucking finishes that shit Mario game
>Viewers again over 10k
She should learn to drop games that have shit views, Ina dropped the stupid rice game after 2 weeks

>>941538
The majority of people can't use any of the programs on the right, office included if we're talking using it as more than just a notepad

>>939141
nice try stinky rrat but shes at 10k viewers rn on an indie game

>>943170
>ina
>caring about numbers
Pretty sure she dropped it just cuz it got backlogged to oblivion

>>943170
do you finish all the games that you buy? point proven

>>939141
She's doing fine.

>>940228
>Rrats don't know Yt is hiding ublock users from viewcounts (aka almost everyone)

I don't understand how people listen to Amelia -- I don't know if it's her mic or her voice, but it's just so draining to the ears.

WHAT HER PROBLEM WITH SUPERCHATS?

>>943170
It just wasn't her kind of game. Ina doesn't care about views.

>>943389
Not at all, I only finish around 50% of them

>>943522
What every vtuber's problem secretly is. They're annoying as fuck to read.

>>943573
there you go. ina dropped the stupid rice game might be because she got bored of it. clearly

>>943592
and not because of low views.

>>942768
Cover like all companies is greedy. They will keep making gens and gens, branches etc expecting to profit from an emergent market that could rise on viewers indefinitely only to end up saturating the market and segregating the viewers.
It will be the jungle anon, some will get so little views that they will have no option but to quit the job, only the fittest will survive.

What exactly is Ame's appeal anyway?

>>942565
You have a screenshot or something?

>>943685
GFE for the EOPs

Right now Ame is getting 11k viewers so...what the hell are you talking about?

12 k viewers playing random indie game right now btw

>>942768
Even if it would make sense to, Cover wouldn't do it because Japanese business mentality is that you pick your hill and you fucking die on it. Most Japanese companies would literally go bankrupt and then some before admitting that they made a poor business decision.

>>944011
VTubers... exceed the economy.

>>943685
I like her sass and goofy childhood stories. She's got a nice voice too when she's not trying too hard to be cute.

>>943650
Cover would get flooded by japanese neets committing seppuku in the middle of their lobby if they dared to drop one of their oshis because of "low views".

And thats the best outcome. You're underestimating japanese idol fans.

>>942768
Why would there be any need to do that? It's not an expense to just keep the talent around, is it? I assume they don't get paid any kind of salary, just their cut of the superchat/membership/ad revenue.
I guess at some point it might become not worthwhile to pay for new outfits/models, but they could carry on regardless.

>>944193
>goofy childhood stories.
Anon...
https://files.catbox.moe/3f7v79.mp4

Fill liquid in Ame's hole

>>944464
Ame...

>>944464
Ame...

>>944464
Ayo what

>>944464
ame...... ;;

>>940691
The same could be said of Ame.

Recently did dumpster diving, she's had a pretty hard life, and not her fault either.

>>939141
If you’re gonna speculate on how a vtuber is gonna graduate at least make it something interesting instead of numberfagging

>>944464
So Im guessing her mom died of some sexually transmitted disease or other disease from needle sharing or something.
the fullness of Ames life is coming to me, her mom slowly died of bad choices and a disease, Ame took care of her while being harrassed sexually and mentally by the rotating men, and the only bring point in her life was video games and her aunt who got her into anime and nerd shit.

>>944705
samefag, just adding that her stories are probably true, and she has stories she wont tell either.

>>944464
I figured no father figure but holy shit
I see why she talks about her aunt

>>939141
>8k
damn you numberfags are strange, like the majority of indies could even dream of reaching numbers like that

>>944853
11k

>>939141
>Thinking that Cover will graduate anybody over lol "low" views.

Hello, seems like you're new here. Nice to meet you!

Anyway, jokes aside - the cost of having girls streaming is pretty much neglible for Cover corp so really they don't need huge numbers of viewers to create any significant profit. Even if someone would suddenly go permamently below 3k viewers, Cover corp still would make enough money on them to make it worth.

>>944464
Fucking footfags....

>>944464
This explains her closeness with Auntie Watson. I wonder how her relationship with her brother is currently.

>>944954
its seems to be pretty good her room mate used to stream with him when he was home.

>>943439
They also hide people who watch the stream using a 3rd party site like Holotools. I think the EN girls realized this and have stopped numberfagging as a result. Even Kiara is aware her superchats and chat activity doesn't match up with the only 3-4k viewers she gets in streams. You can probably double their viewers for more accurate numbers when it comes to EN girls. This doesn't apply to JP girls because Japanese don't use adblock or holotools or anything.

>>944881

Mel....

>>944464
Her childhood is fucking sad and insane.
>almost died in a fire
>mother got kidnapped
>almost got kidnapped herself

>>945112
Mel got almost graduated not because of numbers but because of the fucking shitstorm with YT hating her boobs and some asshole harassing her. Numbers have nothing to do with her case.

>>944464
Very goofy indeed.

>>945127
That just sounds like her mother was a junkie that owed money to drug dealers and her aunt rescued her from that life, possibly after CPS got involved.

>>944464
>Addicted to cracking her toes due to childhood molestation
Wtf

>hate thread turns into an Ame pity party
honestly? based

>>945187
No I was more just sad at her numbers than saying anything about her graduating. When I stopped by and saw her among us collab the other day, she was legit below 1k viewers for the 5 minutes or so I was there...

Doesn't help that she streams so rarely of course, but she sort of needs to reinvent herself too if she wants more numbers. at least to Choco level.

>>944464
Getting your toes cracked by some footfag isn't worse than being called a failed abortion.

>>943439
wait really? I didn't know that ad block affected the views

>>945056
is this why some JP Holos started to get less views than usual?
Korone streams seems highly low compared to before for example

>I think the EN girls realized this and have stopped numberfagging as a result
Numberfagging is fucking stupid anyway, especially for vtubers. All you need is a decent amount of gachikois

>>941608
>Mori is clearly the same too since she expressed hating that she can't ever be recognized on the street as a musician, but she's too level headed to self-destruct like Kiara

never liked her and no on the street would care about her she looks like a 5/10 meh

>>940396
Ame is naturally entertaining and fun though

>>943439
Incorrect.
I watched some streamer with only 57 viewers on my phone's default app as well as on PC with ublock installed. When I closed the browser it immediately showed 56 viewers on my phone, which means it was counting adblockers as a viewer as well.

>>945988
Considering some footfag used her to enact his fetish and her mother was a trashy whore, it's likely she got abused too by some of her mothers boyfriends. But would you ever disclose that to a bunch of simps looking for the GFE?

Considering the ammount of antisocial nerdy girls that are too into escapist media like weeby stuff, it's likely at least one holo has been raped.

>>943435
$500 average in a day for someone that used to be a poorfag, for a few hours of playing vidya and talking whatever, is a lot.

>>939141
>Ame will quit the first good thing she has going in her life
Nice bait thread

>>946590
just on superchats alone even with a 25% cut she's made more in 6 months than she would have made in about 4 years of whatever shitty minimum wage job she had before this.

>>946086
This change was made in like november or december or something, lots of girls noticed their viewer count was bugged or much lower than usual. Youtube claims they "fixed" it but obviously they're full of shit.

How is Cover able to find all these broken girls?

>>946803
I think the better question is how do these broken girls manage to find Cover and convince them that them being broken isn't a huge fucking red flag? Admitting "I was sexually abused as a child" is a huge "do not hire me; I am a PTSD-induced outburst away from being a liability" flag.

>>939867
Honestly seeing she was doing all these watchalongs was what killed it for me. Seeing /vt/ talk about her over the past week is making me think about giving her a shot again but Christ do something that takes more effort than watching a fucking movie. For Pete's sake it isn't that she was doing watchalongs, it's that she's doing so many of em.

>>947338
Maybe either they are told and just ignore it. Or possibly they are actively looking for that type of shit and somehow know they’ll be fit for streaming. Idk the hiring team must be a crack team of psychologists just given their track record so far.

>>947482
>hiring team must be a crack team of psychologists
>Only bad hires they've made are Chris and Management and arguably all of CN but Yogiri
>Even the talents that have graduated weren't the direct fault of Cover's hiring team.
They're either lucky as shit or have a really fucking good vetting process. I really want to know how they filter the actual malicious crazies.

>>947338
>Admitting "I was sexually abused as a child"
Who does this refer to

>>947338
you dont understand only mentally retarded girls are willing to do this

>>948078
Honestly I'd give them some slack with CN. They probably needed help from CN management with them due to not knowing Chinese.

>>939141
She (had) FPS skills. She needs to grind CSGO again

>>941910
>track down onlyfans link
>it's a prank redirecting to some orange man news article
soi milk schizoid rrats fuck off I only drink from the cow

>>939141
lol this cunt also is playing obvlivion? lmao

holo en already runs out of ideas and contents

>>939141
I've been a member to ame since the start, but I've honestly been debating on dropping her. The whole schedule debacle really put a sour taste, as well as her choice in games are REALLY sub par. Mario is so damn boring to watch, and she's wanting to do more.

I will admit her last singing stream she did a bit better, but overall she typically starts a song and never finishes, and something tells me she isn't trying to improve. She seems like she would rather be behind the scenes than on stage.

Supa sunday is honestly horrible. She saved it slightly by adding bubbabot for music, but 7 hours of reading names is just ugh. I don't even know why reading SC's are thing personally.

All in all, her only saving grace atm is her rage moments. Depending on her schedule next week will determine if I drop her finally or not.

>>941890
ina thinks mori is fake af

>>949548
SC sections are generally done at the end of a stream and are pretty much an excuse to talk with your chat and share stories.

>>939141
I wish she did Valorant streams a bit more often, I found her to be pretty good at it and she's actually super competent at casting/commentating, which is not exactly the easiest thing to do.

Cover doesn't graduate people for underperforming, and Ame doesn't really have a fallback occupation, but she seems the most likely to get buried even more when gen 2 debuts, especially if there's another "gamer" style holo.

PURE

>>949548
>The whole schedule debacle really put a sour taste
She isn’t even doing that anymore. She’s streaming almost every day now, sometimes multiple times a day and when she doesn’t it’s because she’s working on moving. I feel like she needed that time off because she seems a lot happier now.
>her choice in games are REALLY sub par
What would you suggest she play? More Apex and Minecraft and nothing else?
>Mario is so damn boring to watch
That is 100% subjective. As someone who loves the Mario games, I really enjoy when she plays them.
>I will admit her last singing stream she did a bit better, but overall she typically starts a song and never finishes
You must not have watched the most recent one because she didn’t do that. She said she’s just having fun with it now. Coco went through the same arc.
>Supa Sunday is honestly horrible
Don’t fucking watch it then.

>>949151
>Literal whoring
>Thinks it referring to only fans rrat
What part about literal don't you understand?

>>939141
She is settling into a GFE format which is great for me because i love of escapism.

>>950460
>She isn’t even doing that anymore. She’s streaming almost every day now, sometimes multiple times a day and when she doesn’t it’s because she’s working on moving.
So just say you need the time off. A lot of people were upset on the schedule thing, and out of all of EN she cancels the most of her streams or moves them. She is not consistent at all.

>What would you suggest she play? More Apex and Minecraft and nothing else?
They have perms for a lot of games. You limiting to only apex and minecraft just says you think that's all she can do.

>You must not have watched the most recent one because she didn’t do that. She said she’s just having fun with it now. Coco went through the same arc.
You obviously didn't read what I said correctly. Her last stream she was better. As in she didn't do her normal stop and go stuff and actually sang. I said OVERALL she normally does.

>Don’t fucking watch it then.
I don't anymore, doesn't mean I can't still think it's stupid.

>>944705
>Recently did dumpster diving
Bullshit. This is some rrtat.

>>940157
Watchalongs can be nice depending on the person watching them. Miko does watchalongs on twitch every week at the beginning of Saturday, Midnight, JST, and she;s always been fun to watch with.

haven't watched alot of Ame watchalongs though cause I don't like the movie choices. That pompadour anime absolutely filitered me.

Good to see numberfags, doxxniggers and newfags getting along so well. I

>>950460
>What would you suggest she play? More Apex and Minecraft and nothing else?

jrpgs. why would vtubers designed by japan play mega popular western aaa shit again. leave them to more westernised "cartoon-ish" vtubers like vshojo. minecraft is ok since the game is about making your own world but oblivion?

im actually fucking disappointed with holo en.

>>951643
>reddit spacing
Go back faggot

>Ame does GFE
I always see this get talked about, but the most I ever see her do is thank her chat and do the regular stuff. Maybe I don't watch her enough to pick up on it, but what are some examples of her doing GFE?

>>951873
Are you a member?

>>951686
Not him, but moot typed like that too.

>>951888
No. Guessing she only does GFE in her members only chat? What sorts of things does she say?

>>951686
Not him, but i noticed somebody spazzing out about this and decided to type like this on /vt/ from now on

not sure if that was your plan or not.

>>951910
i miss moot.

>>951950
We all miss moot

>>951971
>>951950
Would you rather date your oshi irl, or have moot come back?

>>951686
i dont post your trashy platform, mutt lmao. only you dumb amerimutts and anglos and chinks post there

>>941890
Watch the one and only MoriIna collab and you will know why. Here, open wide newfag aaaaah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2jpwFNv658&t=4638s

>>952073
didn't mean to share the timestamp

Holy shit you people are autistic

>>952073
That was an alright stream desu. Didn't watch the whole thing but the I skimmed through it and it seemed like they were having a good time. Are there parts of it where they just get awkward or something?
Also I really wish Calli would stop the "yo boi" shit.

>>939141
Reminder whos the strongest sister

>>952203
Their collab stream was the cutest shit. Amelia is really good at playing the "older baby sitter" to gura and haachama.

>>952188
They had fun but the whole stream was really scuffed. I don't even remember if they got in a game together or not. They ended up playing in separate games almost the entire time, and Calli was more focused on trying to read her own chat.

>>947400
>Honestly seeing she was doing all these watchalongs was what killed it for me.
Unironically this. I have absolutely no interest in watchalongs and hated seeing my homepage cluttered with that shit. Literally all of the other girls have better taste than Ame when it comes to picking which games to play too.

>>939141
Looks like all Holo en members are ironic weebs. Its a shame they are such casual western geeks whod choose Funkopop garbage over Figma/Nendoroid western AAA/indie games over Japanese AA/doujin ones. Mori is somewhat serious bout Japanese stuff but her main interest is now Japanese indie music that has nothing to do with weebshit. Kiaras Japanese is superb but I doubt she actually enjoys modern Japnaese contents. The other members are absolutely normalfaggy western redditor geeks like this girl.

>>939141
Her talent is being a twitchthot, who happens to carry the Hololive brand. That's apparently enough.

>>951643
>Story based
>Spoilers in chat
>Long as hell
>New viewers have to watch dozens of 4+ hours of vods to catch up
>Dogshit gameplay
>No pay off until the near end of an at least 60 hour game
Jrpgs are the worst games to stream even beating out rhythm games

>>940220
I assure you she cares more than we do. The numbers are her life line

I don't have a problem with what she's been streaming but I'd really like Ame or another holo to play Spelunky or 2

>>940220
>implying burgers don't care about numbers

>>947482
>>947338

at its core I think it's mostly that vtubing just doesn't attract normal people. same way this site attracts depressed degenerates

>>952323
>Kiaras Japanese is superb but I doubt she actually enjoys modern Japnaese contents

No I'd say her power level is pretty high. Maybe not as high as Ina's but she's no Miyazaki normie

>Roommate shit being posted all over this thread
>It's just allowed to stay up
Whoa! It's just like post/qa/ /jp/!

>>948078
if they have people that screen for idols it makes sense. actual irl idols are exposed to levels of scrutiny and schizo abuse that would break most any girl.

>>951035
Dunno, clearly you don't understand what literal means if your regurgitating long dead rrats brewed up by a literal schizo and ran with by failed women and crabs.

>>951931
Community posts about her daily life
Also cute animal videos

>>939141
Now if only she collabed with her JP senpais more, or maybe even one of the Stars so she can diversify her audience. But noooooo~ Her only lifeline is being Gura's #1 leech.

>>952353
I'm sure she cares to a certain extent - I know she would be devastated if her numbers went to sub 100 or something. But she really doesn't give a shit if she gets 1000 or 13000 viewers, because even 1000 is more than she ever would have thought she would get as an indie. She regularly does stuff to lose numbers (she pretends the stream is over sometimes to shake off streamsnipers by going to the ending screen for a few seconds, and usually loses 1000 to 2000 viewers). She doesn't even encourage super chatting that much since she reads every single message equally, even 3rd worlder ARS ones.

>>952323
Ina has drawn official art for gacha games and is a big enough FGOfag that she had the artist of Hokusai and Abby be her art mama and specifically drew a low key Foreigner so I don't really think Ina is that ironic in her weebness.

Then again who the fuck actually cares about Ina lmao

>>941538
You'll be surprised how many people can't even figure out how to print a document if the paper size changes

>>952323
Mori WAS a weeb, just listen in to one of her wine party streams.
The rest are true though, especially Kiara and Ame.

>>952467
So just posting about the type of stuff she's doing in her irl day is GFE? I thought she would be doing lovey-dovey stuff by the way people made it sound.

>>952477
I imagine its gotta be weird. she plays a bit of a character now but fundamentally shes the same person that streamed before, just now 50 times the amount of people watch

>>944397
After kyoani people shouldn't underestimate the lengths crazy japanese go to. That's just that schizo being angry his passion got 'stolen' from him, now imagine one of them feeling like your company not only took away his true love's success but also his chance to meet them

>can't get away with posting your bullshit in /hlgg/ so you run to this sad thread to do it

Now my only question is how many of these posts are the one ame obsessed loser that's been trying to get people hating her for 5 months now.

>>952073
That's all entirely on Mori not researching properly and not getting Lethal League Blaze which has improved netcode. Honestly, someone should always give Mori a rain check on her game, she didn't even know that GG Beta already ended.

>one

>>952607
She used to be really toxic with LoL, no?

>>952625
it's probably the retards who got kicked out of lolcow

>>952446
Report it.

>>940716
Nigga, what? How does she sound like a man?

>>940716
>he doesn't like deep, but somehow still feminine voices
What a faggot

>>952681
Isn't lolcow female 4chan? Are there really a bunch of girls who just hate the shit out of specific vtubers? I imagine every anti as a guy.

>>952722
>Are there really a bunch of girls who just hate the shit out of specific vtubers?
It's more like they hate all of the popular ones because they're jealous.

>>952677
oh yea, you saw it creep out in the shooter streams.

>>952681
Now that I think about it I wonder how many of them came here because they aren't allowed to talk about vtubers in that place

>>947338
Are you kidding? Cover probably actively looks for them. If you come to them perfectly well-balanced with a stellar resume in IT, streaming knowledge and a history of experience they'll probably reject you outright.

>>952596
Amelia being "GFE" is greatly exaggerated and in large part projection from the lonely Hikkineets from here who want her to lean more into the GFE stuff. She's a very sweet, very relatable girl which probably adds to why so many people love her so much, but she doesn't really actively "do" GFE. Her community posts are really just nice little bits of extra interactions and shitposts she makes for her fans, but it isn't really lovey dovey stuff. Pic related is one of her shitposts.

>>952677
No?

>>952722
I feel like people always underestimate the amount of girls around here. it's obviously vastly majority guy but they're here. plus the only types of girls that are big enough wierdos to be here are the really crazy type.

>>952596
>>952768
You really have no clue what being in a relationship is like, do you?

>>952596
She used to stuff like asmr streams and anime watchalongs too but more recently it's only been community posts and members only karaoke practice
Personally I think she's trying to move away from the GFE because she doesn't want that kind of unhealthy parasocial relationship despite it probably being the reason 4/5s of her chat are green names

>>951643
Kiara is doing precisely that and suffering for it. Sure, she clearly loves playing them and is going to do it regardless (almost to excess), but it's clear that most people don't want to watch jrpgs.

>>952788
Personally I think you're full of shit

>>952788
You might be the biggest faggot in this thread

>>952792
biggest evidence that kiara isn't the massive numberfag that antis make her out to be.

>>952782
Anon look at the website you're on. Triple check it. the answer is no

>>952782
No. Not really. Maybe one day.

>>952596
You don't get it. For someone with her charisma, literally anything that comes out of her mouth that's unrelated to the game is squarely GFE.
Talk about needing to buy groceries? GFE.
Relate something that happened when she took her pets out on a walk? GFE.
Go off on a tangent about fish? GFE.
Rant about chat backseating? GFE.
Wrangle her dogs? GFE.
Talk about her plans for her schedule? GFE.

>>952749
I heard she was even more toxic, and wish I got to experience it. Ame being toxic/salty is what got me into her, and I can't imagine there's an even more toxic version of her out there that she used to be. She should be more toxic and rage-y imo.

>>952323
>but her main interest is now Japanese indie music that has nothing to do with weebshit.
Why does it matter? There is more to Japan than just anime and manga.

She'd do better if she stopped doing watchalongs

>>952782
I do, and it just further proves to me that Ame is shallow as fuck.

>>952596
As a former gosling of hers they really like to exaggerate her GFE appeal

>>952873
So people are paying to become members just to hear her talking about how she walked the dog, and have her share a picture of sonic with Louis from family guy on its face? That's it? THAT'S the GFE?
I thought she would be borderline ERPing or something. You guys must be prudes.

Good to hear so many of you faggots are starting to get filtered by Ame

>>952916
You used to gosling over ame but then stopped?
How?

>>952323
Holy christ you're retarded. It sounds like you've never watched any of them.

>>952901
Not really.

>>952806
>Valentine's day stream
>It's just Ame making puns and telling chat to get a real girlfriend
Are you sure?

>>952916
I was too when I started watching other chuubas.

>>940390
>collab ban only applies to Gura
look at this head cannon, there is no collab ban on gura.

Gura simply doesn't talk JP, it makes it really hard to pair her up for collabs. furthermore she's a bit of an autist, which is what makes her popular on her own, but she just can't make small chat.

>Seagulls lose their nest so all they can do is whine about Ame in a split thread while shitting on Kiara as well
Can't believe a poorfag and orange failed idol really makes you faggots seethe this much and live rent free in your head

>>953000
Checked
But why no Haachama collab though? Haachama already collabed with Kiara and Mori, Ame, and even Ina.

>>952977
Yeah, now I'm completely sure.

>>952880
She's got a good balance going on now desu. She said herself being toxic and raging can get cringey and she tries to reign it in during collabs for that very reason. If she's typically more relaxed and chill it makes the random gremlin and rage moments all the more exciting. Though I personally wouldn't mind if she brewed a little more chaos during collabs - she can get surprisingly quiet during them.

>>951873
That's the anti's using it to talk down to teamates. Ame doesn't do super hardcore GFE, just a few bits here and there, leans towards it more during special streams but then it's back to business. The people talking about Ame don't watch her, evident by the >SHE CAN'T SING SHE ISN'T HOLOLIVE WORTHY despite Noel proving them wrong. 99% chance they're yellow fevered elitists or the girls and gays jealous of Ame. Notice how they don't have a problem with the other 2 in EN doing GFE, or the JP's doing GFE.

>>952778
>All the antis are girls
This makes it so much easier to deal with this board.

>>953039
>But why no Haachama collab though?

I'm sure there is a reason. The reality is Gura's lack of JP speaking skills is probably why she's not the face of Hololive, though she has a big JP audience it's nothing compared to Mori.

>>953081
Not all but it's definitely a decent chunk of them.

>>953080
I don't think anyone has an issue with Ame doing GFE. It's just that they're concerned about her doing it, because it's not healthy for her or the members.

>>953081
But there are no girls in this board, or in this entire site.

>>953080
I kinda prefer it when they can't sing, or at least no perfectly. its the same base reason I love aqua social retardation or nene's airheadedness

>>953066
I'm the exact opposite. I love seeing her rage and get toxic. It's cute. I wish she was like that 90% of the time.
I loved that one stream where she played board games with gura and every time she lost, she blamed it on something (to the point where even gura joked about it) and every time she won, she put gura down in a feigned-nice way.
I love her toxic side.

>>953039
I honestly think it's just because Gura's more anxious than she lets on and gets even more anxious about JP collabs and avoids them. She occasionally sounds nervous even when she's collab-ing with Ame.

>>953184
>She occasionally sounds nervous even when she's collab-ing with Ame.
No she doesn't, surprisingly Gura has been the one getting better at adding to Collabs and carrying the conversation, Amelia is way more socially autistic which shows itself the most during group collabs

>>947338
Stronger emotion tends to lead to better art, whether that be from pain or joy.

>>952323
>There are people who still think that being a weeb just means liking anime and japanese videogames
Three of those actually know the language to some extent something that most weebs don't even bother to do

>>953220
Oh man, now I'm remembering her recent collab with Mel.

>>953174
I legitimately hope you get bored and stop watching her. Your taste is absolute garbage and I wouldnt be surprised if youre a clipfag

>>953242
And 4 of them have probably seen more anime than that retard.

Did she drop Nier completely? I stopped watching her around then, she just doesn't engage with most games she's playing at all and it just becomes frustrating background gremlin/Bubba noise that actively kills my brain cells. Comparing Ina's Titanfall campaign to hers was practically the last straw and her inability to pick games she actually enjoys and engages with in and doesn't basically troll chat with sealed the deal from there.

>>953301
Nope, but you should stay filtered. It sounds like you have awful taste.

>>952917
More like the word has lost all meaning wrt Amelia because every side uses it differently.
There are people who actively place special emphasis on the feeling of being with a girlfriend, and misconstrue Amelia's natural charisma for her deciding to actively provide it, even though to her she's just being her normal self. Being active, the implication is that she can decrease or increase it by simply getting more experience and trying harder. Thus, it is a bonus that it is 'fake', because it means they can get more of it if they can get her to know that it is important to them. To them GFE is a wholly positive marketing buzzword like a major feature.
There are people who recognize that she isn't trying to do anything of the sort, but recognize the feelings they feel regardless, and label it GFE in a semi-joking manner. To them GFE is just a label.
Then there are those who believe that because being in a relationship is somehow very special, and that she has replicated some related feelings in them, that she could not possibly have accomplished such a major feat unintentionally; she must be engaged in deliberate emotional manipulation to force people to develop attachment to her. They use GFE as a wholly negative term to represent her deceptive practices, without which they envision she would act and carry herself differently and more 'naturally' in some way.

Because all sides use the word freely with different mental representations and connotations attached, discussions about her 'GFE' often degenerate into civil war as multiple sides defend each other only to find out later down the thread that they see things differently.

>>953220
Ame definitely clams up more during larger group collabs but one-on-one she at least she goes for the JP collabs regardless of how awkward they become. Gura doesn't even go for them.

>>953132
>I don't think anyone has an issue with Ame doing GFE
But they did, they attacked her and derailed the threads nonstop during the beginning, especially after the first date video. Which is hilarious since Mori did a much more serious date and not a single person brought it up.
>It's just that they're concerned about her doing it, because it's not healthy for her or the members.
They don't care, they just use concern as a veil to not get banned for the 30th time. If they did you'd see them talk about Polka in the GLOBAL thread. The only people who unironically think that she's crossing boundaries are the 4-7 khv concernfags gossiping about HoloEN because they take everything they consume and read here at face value.

>>953301
She'll probably soon drop Oblivion too.

>>953157
same

>>941251
I'd say they're better off prioritizing stronger bonds between all the EN girls rather than spreading everyone thin learning moon speak in a miserable attempt to appeal to greasy purist fags. Most of JP can't speak english to save their lives and I don't they should have to either, same goes vice versa.

>>953301
>I stopped watching her around then
Adios!

>>940320
How is "Will she be the first to graduate?" bait? Are you serious anon?

>>953269
My taste can't be shit, because Ame is my oshi.

>>941251
>waste your time and resources to please a nip monkey for 200yen aka's
Fuck that, just focus and develop your EN bonds with ID instead. The JP's that would want to collab are learning English instead, thanks in part to their memberships being boosted by EOPs sent their way from HoloMyth.

>>953561
>Fuck that, just focus and develop your EN bonds with ID instead
I agree improving Gen 1's group dynamics would help all of them out but if EN ever wants a chance at being including in the big projects (concerts, original songs, HololiveALT, etc), learning Japanese really should be near the top of their priority list.

Would the JP girls be receptive to the idea of taking an EN girl under their wing and just doing weekly collabs with them and teaching them japanese?

>>953644
They'll just have them read lines, they don't need to learn Japanese. It'll help and they're totally free to do so if they actually want to learn but this isn't the 80's anymore. Just throw some subtitles in there, westaboos will go wild. They'll probably get Kiara to help with that sort of thing anyways. If Yagoo sees a way to make money, he'll get around his EOP golden geese.

>>953702
I always thought there was untapped potential in language exchange sessions between a JP and EN Holo. However on JP's side she'd have to have the equivalent English level of Ina or Calli's level of Japanese. And for close to complete beginners on either side, tutoring would take way too much effort on the tutor's part and language exchange would be too difficult/ unproductive.

>ame anti thread
>stays up for 8 hours, gets to bump limit

>gura anti thread
>gets deleted the second it gets posted with the OP banned for 7 days

>>953702
The HoloID girls would be better. Iofi and Reine have done collabs with ina and pochi sensei that were fun. Moona is trying to learn JP as well so they have possibilities to work with. Maybe make a jeopardy style game show with JP categories and vocab.

>>946333
I think girls are starting to forget they'd never make it in real industry, and just happened to slot into a bizarre niche that will probably go down in history as a fad on same level as dubstep. Only one with any real level of success was HER and that was one dimensional le zany drunk quirky girl hehe xd that had no real success in streaming. I'm not hating on anyone or vtubing, but you'll see im right in 5 years time

>>945869
She had been trying to up until bloom (collab after collab, participating in the mk cup etc), but bloom comes along and she needed to prepare and practice routines and that takes extra effort as she doesn't live in Tokyo near Cover hq like many of the others, then she got sick after the concert and is really only now trying to get things back on track. Unlike many of the other girls she's a bit of a loner compared with the tight knit "pajama club" friendship groups that persist amongst many of the other girls off screen. How much due to distance, physical of metaphorical, I dunno.

She said that she's going to start steaming more regularly again and it seems that she understands the predicament she's in and that she's balancing on the precipice of irrelevance and forgotten chuubas if she doesn't get back into things in earnest.
She was happy that first Reine and then Ina have both asked for collab streams respectively I think the on the 26th and then on the 27th, or the 27th the 28th. Keep a look out for Mel.

>>955011
>fad
I'm going to be calling you an idiot in 5 years.

>>955147
i'm ready to eat my words
but it's more fun if you tell me why

>>955163
Not him, but the two main reasons I see is that VR's popularity will continue to go up and that there will be a desire to create videos without tying them to your real life identity.

>>951643
jrpgs are hot garbage to watch. also they're 3D chinese cartoon rigs being operated by english speaking westerners, why the fuck would the origin country of a game they play matter at all?

>>955217
People still like to connect with real faces. Everyone started to facefag around 2012 and that hasn't stopped since. Vtubing is basically a gimmick where you play along with a character. I can see some further experimentation in that area like Haachama, however there's only so much you can do with that gimmick. It will become played out, oversaturated and then die same way 2012 cod youtubers did. Some are still around and have transcended their trend, but that's it.
Ultimately the reason why you think it will succeed is because you think it's like a new VLOG, and I just think it's a subgenre of gaming videos.

>>955302
it will definitely cool off a bit but I don't think its going anywhere. Streaming in general certainly hasn't disappeared and its been here for years.

>>955302
>People still like to connect with real faces
People like to connect with any face, whether real or fake.
>because you think it's like a new VLOG
No, I think it can be applied to literally any channel. You could take any current channel and make a vtuber version of it.

This theead is hilariously bad, fuck SEAniggers.
Heres some up to date stats to make you seethe.
Ame playing new games or event streams easily crush Ina on concurrent viewers. I dont even need to comment on Mori and Kiara, they're small fish.
Ame playing random non-meme indie game 13K, Mori playing Omori - 5K
Ina getting beaten while playing HK of all things is embarrassing, this game has a huge cult following.

Skyrim vs Oblivion

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>2 retards samefagging and overanalyzing like autists
Keep seething faggots. Amelia will be here for a lot longer, Teamates as well. Your shit is pointless no matter how punctual or grammatical your shitposting is.

>>940239
fuck you guranigger her watchalongs are great

Do you thing people are still mad about HololiveEn because >westernwomen and that's causing all these doxing?

>>939141
>8K is bad somehow
Bruh there are hundreds of streamers who would straight up kill for that

>>949151
>He doesn't have the gravure sets saved
Kek, fuck off newfag.

>>943435
Wait she's been playing oblivion? How the fuck did I miss this.

>>940762
>not posting Kanatan

>>939141
She was never anything special, just another variety streamer like you can find thousands on twitch, people latched on her design, but as soon as GEN2 get in numbers will get even lower and she'll be rightfully forgotten

>>940107
Twitch zoomers recognize someone of their kind, and her design. That's about it.

>>952873
So she's basically pic related then?