/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9466645
Dude, what the fuck kind of degenerate wants to watch League of legends with a FUCKING SCALEY?

Either viewbot or stop making these threads. You have options.

>>9466686
Bros I love Finana.

>>9466645
>How can we save NijiEN
Easy, we just need to stop holo SEAniggers to join in and say retarded things in the chat

>>9466645
To put things in perspective I watch every Finana stream and I still skipped the LoL collab. Shitty game, shitty collab mates, just a bad time all around. Compare her viewers there to when she plays nearly anything else. Also
>Pomu is doing a sc reading
>Rosemi didn’t put the game in the title
>No one watches Petra, I didn’t even know she was streaming
>Selen hit lower end Hololive numbers
So ok? Ok.

>>9466645
Maybe don't stream all at the same time

Collabs are pretty worthless unless you force them onto your channel alone. All the OfflineTV faggots are just going to be on Twitch. Incidentally, Niji really should have put Nijisanji EN on Twitch. They wouldn't have to compete directly with Hololive and would have been able to use squad streams and raids while building their english community.

>>9466645
are they all streaming at the same exact time, one over another?

>>9466645
They're doing well, You should bring attention to startups. Their girls are wonderful and they can barely break 100 viewers.

>>9466902
I've yet to see a single OfflineTV collab that wasn't horrible. It's like they're intentionally doing it.

>>9466645
Why are NijiEN outside collabs so fucking shit?

>>9466645
I will never watch an OTV collab

>>9466978
first NijiEN 6 stream overlap

>>9467062
It's the freedom that Nijisanji offers.
So they go straight for e-celebs.

>>9466645
Fuck you OP, stop stealing images out of /#/ for your bait.

>>9466645
Help help I've been sucking dicks all day and can't stop help I'm addicted to cocks in my ass
T. OP

You can save them by making posts about how great their chemistry is, that should theoretically bring in the crowds of people who like watching streamers for their chemistry.

>>9467054
have they collab with Pokimane yet?
Also, if they do a collab with Rea I don't see why it doesn't boast the number since she's also on YouTube

they need to do minecraft 24/7 streams DUH

>>9467091
yeah Elira was having her first membership stream at the same time too, so everyone streaming at the same time

>>9466645
Should they rebrand the whole EN branch as JP? Would that help their numbers a little?

>>9467401
That would make it worse.
It's mostly men that do well in NijiJP

>>9467062
The Pomu/Melody collab was incredible, and the Pomu/Pikamee and Selen/Froot/Zen collabs were good too. Both the LoL collabs Finana has done seemed fine too, but I didn't watch too much of either because LoL filters me. The recent one Elira did with Sykkuno was kinda meh, but it led to this incredible moment at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZkzZZS-emE

>>9466645
I think it's safe to say now that this recent wave isn't working out as expected. Should we get Shiki next?

>>9466645
Unless Chinks decide to mass spam Nijiclips like they did to Holos in 2019/20 or a super haxxor hack Youtube algorithm to favor Nijis vod/clips, it's impossible. I just give up at this point.

>>9467722
No. The new wave is good. They are better than HoloEn2 or half of En1. Algorithm just dont favor them.

>>9468128
Chinks never cared about nijisanji.
They're being catered to by chink vtubers and desperate JPs now anyways.

>>9468128
They can't
EOPs don't like NijiJP's high school students character design and japanese humor

>>9468444
This is a thread about EN

>>9466645
>Save
They don't need saving.

>>9468260
>Algorithm just don't favor them
Holy Cope

>>9468586
HoloJP is the reason why HoloEN success

>>9467722
>this recent wave
are we talking about Niji EN 2 that has Selen, or Holo EN 2 that has Kronii

>>9466827
So do I, but I'm not lowering myself to watch LoL or fat scalie dudes just for more of her

>>9468623
"They don't need to be saved"
Learn english first

this bord gets newfags everyday or what? why every fucking day I have to read this kind of bait?
>muhhh how do we save nijien
>muhhh how do we save holomyth

EVERYDAY

OP just wants some (you) and you guys give him what he wants. make an effort, go comment on something else or just sage it at least

>>9468772
lol bruh, Are you really being retarded on purpose?

>>9468881
it's like a 70/30 split of hololive to nijisanji, and Holotribalists can't comprehend anything other than sub numbers and viewers on streams
Hell, they sent chumbuds to fuck with Mumei when she was pulling larger numbers than Gura in a shared stream time frame not too long ago

imagine that, attacking your own branch, from your own company, because the shark wasn't #1

>>9468881
you know this board is full of newfags and you expect them to know what sage is?

>>9468763
Why is there a distinction between scalie and furry? Arent they the same shit?

>>9469054
Wow, the chudbuds really are racists aren't they?

>>9469054
>they sent chumbuds to fuck with Mumei
Real or rrat?

>>9468881
>I have to read
you dont. now fuck off

>>9469184
real, it was during Gura doing MC and Mumei doing the drawing game passport or w/e

>>9466645
They're doomed to be irrelevant the moment they chose to be in Niji instead of trying to get into Hololive. Don't know why people would shit on them though, I just feel bad for them.

>>9469490
>Don't know why people would shit on them though
Because retard nijiniggers use them to bait

>>9469242
I thought the posts about Chumbuds being cancer on this board was false but I don't watch enough HoloEN to understand the shitposting.

>>9469782
Chumbuds are like a cross between MCU stans and /v/edditors with pedophilia thrown in for good measure. It's absolutely not false that they're cancer.

>>9466686
Haha his in game name was no scalies

>>9468772
You can say it both ways, fag

>>9466645
Selen's collab peaked at 2,970 while the other one peaked at 1,243 so wrong on both

>>9466645
Not good hours and Selen was carrying two small kouhais. Thinking about the circumstances, pulling about 3k in these ungodly hours was a miracle.

>>9466645
Holy hell those are Anya numbers, evenbTwitchtubers have better views

>>9469782
jfc all it took for you to believe him was him saying it was real

>>9468686
Holo doesnt name it wave you retard.

lmao collabing with male e-celebs not working out for the nijis? Imagine how much Selen would have blown up if not for them killing her momentum with garbage content.

>>9466645
Why is nobody watching Rosemi? And why's Baelz keeps owning her ass?
Did we choose the wrong rrat?

>>9474039
boring and shit personality simple as that

>>9466645
even lilypichu and scarra can't carry finana to above 1k, this is surprising.

Collabing with twitch streamers and streaming on youtube at the same time is dumb fuck. NijiEN needs to move to twitch if they want to boost their numbers. Youtube vtuber market is hard-capped as fuck by hololive flooding the algorithm.

>>9474280
*dumb as fuck

>>9466645
People who like Twitch streamers are gonna watch those streamers POV.....on twitch. This will only ever help Finana if she herself also starts streaming there, or does something where the twitch streamer doesn't have their own POV and people are forced to watch on her channel.

As far as Selen that's a decent number for 2 literals who's from the Korean branch. They don't have any drawing power at all and in fact are probably a mild debuff over her just playing solo.

>>9466645
It amazes me how these offlive tv and vshojo collabs become more and more debuffs

>>9466902
This. Fuck Moba games.

>>9467054
I think this collab was more for Finana than her viewers.

So Nijisanji Korea has Great Value store-brand clones of Fubuki and Lamy? Who knew.

>>9474750
I wish this fake Fish should've gone to Hololive if she's gonna be selfish like that.

>>9474821
I mean that is true for all Niji designs. They all look unoriginal and uninspired. Like dollar store vtubers. The whole company just reeks of being cheap.

>>9474876
She already attempted that

>>9466645
By obnoxiously shilling them on casuals who know a little bit of vtubers (of which mostly from Hololive) and tell them to watch a nijisanji equivalent of that holo. Bombard their messages of their livestreams until they give up and watches them. From that point onwards whenever you talk with that individual about vtubers always talk about nijisanji and never bring up hololive ever again.

>>9466645
Finana should have collabed only with Scarra. Girl_dm is aight too, everyone else are obnoxious.

They're gonna add NijiEN 3 in a month right? What will happen then?

I drop niji instantly when they try to go for otv collabs, i watch vtubers to escape from that circle of streamers, not to go back into it again.

250 - sub1k viewers is healthy
You can still feel unique as a chatter and there is a high chance your oshi will read you.
There is no chance Korone or Pekora notices you when its flying by in chat

>>9474899
That's true for the most part but some of them have cool designs like that big tits witch.

HoloEN 2 really killed them huh, hilarious

>>9475044
Same thing, they'll all carve out their niche audience of 800-1500 viewers and one will probably do somewhat better than that and hit 2k regularly.

>>9475175
HoloEN is killing themselves just fine, thank you

>>9475214
Cope

I see lower numbers across EN companies branch right now, school has started and lockdown has died down probably.

>>9474821
>>9474899
Siu looks like Fubuki because she has the same artist, who can literally only draw that character (white haired fox girl) and nothing else. Hari looks nothing like Lamy. Holobronies being retarded and uninformed again.

>>9475225
"Lockdowns have ended" for the last 4 months according to this board, make up your minds

>>9466645
If you think this is bad, wait until they debut waves 3 and 4 and divides up the fanbase even further.

>>9475269
>wave 4
ENTER EN RAITO

I bet that one girl who turned down HoloEN 2 for NijiEN 3 feels stupid right now.

>>9475246
The school year wasn't starting four months ago, it was ending for summer break, and summer break = kids in front of the computer all day watching vtubers.
Now that the lockdowns are ending AND kids are going back to school, liveview numbers are going down pretty much across the board, as kids are in school or busy with homework instead of watching vtubers.

>>9475246
Blame the government and their "soft lockdown".

>>9475310
>NijiEN girls are going to get raped because Niji just has to hire males
It happened with JP so it can happen with EN too. But you Nijiniggers gotta have your precious male vtubers.

>>9466645
Is that bootleg fubuki?

>>9475315
Nobody would do that. If she isn't in EN2 then she didn't make the cut for it.

>>9475315
I seriously don't believe any of the vtubers who have claimed to pick Nijisanji over Hololive. Ignoring all the tribalist bullshit, it's still stupid to think somebody would pick an OK living making somewhere in the $50-100k range (if they're a big success) in Niji over a Hololive EN gig clearing $500k+. I just don't fucking buy it.

>>9475360
Nah the bootleg Fubukis look almost exactly like Fubuki.

>>9466645
>>9475241
Isn't bootleg Marine more popular than that bootleg Lamy one? And I believe she can speak English and an Apex addict too. Why didn't Selen invite her instead?

>>9475343
Nobody got raped. He was fired immediately. Meanwhile, Mel had to threaten to sue Cover for them to take action about her rapist manager.

>>9475375
It happened. I guess some people just like the NijiEN atmosphere and attitude. Pomu(80k) makes as much as IRyS(83k) in supas but has freedom.
>>9475390
Some people value some things over than money.

>>9475390
They're doing it for the creative freedom.

>>9475343
He did nothing but post doxx shit on Twitter and he immediately got the boot

>>9466645
that is the fun part! we don't

>>9474998
Yeah, it's weird of them to Collab with people who have nothing to do with Vtubers. They are IRL streamers whose fanbase contains of children and neckbeards that wouldn't even look at YouTube.

>>9475448
No it didn't. No one would go through the entire application process of Holo EN, get to the end then bounce to take their chances with !) getting into Niji EN, and 2) being able to grind out a successful career from that. There might be people out there who didn't apply, but that's not the same as "picking Nijisanji over Hololive" as that implies there was any certainty they would have made it.

>>9475448
You didn't factor in promotions and merchandising. All the NijiEN would chose Holo if Cover wanted them but they didn't. Cover wanted to play it safe with whom they recruited.

>>9474412
VShojo collabs aren't really debuffs. If you look at their most viewed videos, the VShojo collabs do well while they're collabbing with their bottom talent. Selen's collab with TTS Dragon is her 5th most viewed.
That said apparently combining VShojo with OfflineTV is so bad the video has to be deleted.

>>9475448
I wouldn't say they make the same amount of money. Pomu had an 80 day head start on Irys and Irys still passed her. The gap will probably keep widening.

>>9475541
It will, Pomu can't really replicate the whole surgery thing. Well, I mean, she will, in like two years, but it'll be another one-off thing.

>>9475541
And Irys still has the option to take surgery schtick to bait saviorfag money.

>>9469054
>imagine attacking your own branch, from your own company
Stop replying. He's a chumkek, probably shits on another chuuba before he eats his breakfast.

>>9475448
>Some people value some things over than money

>>9469242
passport was pretty good tbd

>>9469490
>instead of trying

>>9475541
She makes a lot of money via streamlabs too. She made at least $20k from there so far. Also sold out her voice packs completely.

Woke up to a whole host of streams from my NijiEN faves I can watch while I study. Life is great.

I hope Rosemi has a nice sleep.

>>9474408
>>9474280
If you watch twitch so much, whatchu doin here anon.

>>9475843
Hopefully Kirt doesn't hog the bed so she can get a nice sleep.

>>9475111
It's Korone

>>9475801
Good for her but she doesn't make more then IRyS

>>9475994
Yeah, IRyS also has 3.1k members as of right now which is just about double what Pomu averages in standard viewers.

>>9476149
3.1k members minimum.

>>9476149
Pomu hit 1.6k members on her first monetization stream (she didn't open memberships before the stream started) and is likely on 2k+ given a lot of people don't watch streams live due to timezones and she has had a fairly healthy number of members joining on all of her recent streams.

>>9466645
...Actually entertaining streamers?

>>9466645
>How can we save NijiEN?
Focus on how much money their bringing in instead

>>9476455
Hololive En are barely entertaining either. Yet they still get 6 gorillion views.

>>9475390
Some people want to take the side of the under dog and make it grow. This isn't even with just NijiEN, some other chubbas in other companies really want to grow their company knowing they were the ones that did it through their work.

Why the pointless arguing? NijiEN is always going to be the bullied little brother of western corpo tubers

>>9466645
They are doing fine. Vtubing is side hobby in Nijisanji. It's not something that their members do full-time. A lot of them are still in school, and stream inconsistently. Streaming in front of a few hundreds people is not uncommon. They don't need any saving.

>>9467126
>>9467125
Base

>>9468772
SEAnigger hours i suspect

>>9466645
They can't be "saved", if you chose to go "hololive discount" style, you get discount holo numbers, that's all. Should have gotten more unique talents who can stand out.

>>9475224
Seethe

>>9475343
Cope holonigger

I just came to post Kiara

>>9477073
I think they will be fine if they manage to pull viewers from outside the vtuber/holo fanbase. I think they already realize this, as we're seeing an increase in the number of external collaborations that they are doing. How effective these are at boosting their core fanbase remains to be seen.

>>9477073
Hololive can put a literal dog shit as streamer they can still get 6,000,000 views. Nijisanji or any companies can hire fucking Billie Ellish and they will only get 2k at best. Being talented or entertaining have nothing to do with being a popular vtubers. It's all about brand and algorithm.

>>9466645
if all holoEN streaming at the same time, they will get shit number too
kill yourself, Juan

>>9477249
>Being talented or entertaining have nothing to do with being a popular vtubers
As for Hololive, it just so happens that their branding is about being elite and talented entertainers so it's a buff on top of being popular.
Also, it certainly doesn't help that the brand Nijisanji is known emphasizes quantity over quality.

>>9469120
Same shit different smell

>>9474944
I didn't know that, but I also shouldn't be surprised since a shitload of vtubers do that no matter who they are

>>9467464
Really? I thought women would also do well

>>9478582
That's because Hima, Panda, and Shiishii who're former heavyweights are struggling right now, but their friend Luna got a second wind when she transferred to Hololive so there's an impression that Niji females are kinda stagnant and declining.

>>9468881
newfags can't sage

>>9479073
Or maybe the fact that Kuzuha hit 1 mil, Kanae overtook Mito, and men are the ones dominating views and SC?

>>9475520
NijiEN gets more merch than HoloEN.

>>9478546
Finana was on the short list to be HoloEN gen 1, she passed almost all the auditions.

>>9475541
IRyS also had an EP that charted in in 20+ countries and held top 5 spots in east and south east asian countries. Comparing IRyS to Pomu is just not fair, they are different animals.

Better question - how can we save HoloEn 2?

>>9479194
Sure, they're not really mutually exclusive. Mito is also not as dominant compared before and the newest girl is the weakest of her group. NijiEN proved to be a failure too. The environment for the females in Nijisanji right now is just not good.

>>9479213
They've got no choice as they don't get paid wages so they are basically forced into spamming whatever merch they could think of to make ends meet.

>>9479338
>the newest girl is the weakest of her group
That's an outright lie though

>>9479073
Hima, Panda and Shiishii were never real heavyweights. Sanbakas and Mito are the real heavy lifter. And you forgot that Nijisanji only have JOP and Hololive have the whole world except Japan.

>>9479301
>deflection
this will for sure fix (you)r problems nijifag

>>9479419
Hima was Nijisanji's top streamer for three months in 2019. She WAS a heavy hitter.

>>9479338
>NijiEN proved to be a failure too.

By what metric? That they aren't pulling Holo numbers? /vt/ really brings out a desire in me to become a Tribalist because holy shit the contained Holofans herein are massive retards.

NijiEN, NijiJP, NijiID, and NijiKR are all doing just fine. We know this because they all have active sponsorships, deals, and regular additions to their rosters.

We can't say HOW well they're doing as we don't have the numbers or access to finances, but NijiIN were active for a year and a half with no new Waves because they were never making money. NijiEN, who opened up auditions for two waves at the same time, have exceeded Nijisanji's expectations and have given them an opportunity to grow and develop. Everyone is inclining, and when they play 'buff' games they all invariably do well.

>>9466645
No surprises here. They're treating this as a side hobby. No creativity, No drive, No goals. If they just want to be among the fishes then that's fine, but don't expect to get huge numbers in the long run.

>>9479073
Funny that Luna's view isn't bigger than Sasaki, Shiina or Himawari despite holo buff kek

>>9479962
Left Gamers for that. She must be satisfied with beating then in sub count, I guess.

>>9480081
>sub count
It's crazy how bloat hololive sub count is when Kenmochi with only 400k sub has 20k+ regular, equal with top holo with quadruple his sub count and everyone in vtuber circle know about him

>>9466645
stop playing apex

wait for lyrica because the pinoy buff is going to be really significant

>>9475310
ENTER YUDRIK

>>9480356
You WILL play Apex.