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>watch NijiEN stream
>see nothing but people with hololive pfps, hololive memes, streamers themselves pandering to holobronies, etc
This is why the branch is a failure. It's just discount hololive. I was already pissed at the holobrony fanbase that Lulu had back then. Her chat was full of the same retards. We'll never have EN Mito or EN Ange. Western girls are a bunch of uninteresting basic bitch weebs. The only thing that can change this is the male branch since they'll try something different for once.

>> No.9422377

>>9422340
>they'll try something different for once.
HAHAHAHhahahaha

>> No.9422459 [DELETED] 

>>9422340
I really doubt you're a Nijisanji fan if you can claim that the branch is a failure. If you compare Eden gumi, which everyone knows was a big hit, the difference in their sub counts isn't much at all.

>> No.9422461

NijiEN fans are all wannabe groomers
Just look at their chats

>> No.9422579
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>>9422340
I don't think you've ever watched a nijien stream. It's completely different from the tame wallflowers of holoen bound by decency rules, I watch both and nijien is more entertaining. Like Fauna and Sana did their collab and they're just kind of boring, you know? The nijien girls really get into it and turn it into pure fucking chaos. Part of it is that nijien girls are mostly dumber than holoen girls. Also FEESH is a real character, being high level in the ghost game from being carried but totally sucking ass at it and getting away only because she lets her friends die to ghosts while she runs away. The nijien girls make me laugh so hard with their unbridled idiocy. Also the nijien girls feel like actual friends while holoen is kind of "people who tolerate each other". Like I feel like if holoen got into the kinds of conflicts nijien does in their collabs, holoen would probably implode into a massive bitchfight from which it wouldn't survive. The girls just don't have as much chemistry together.

>> No.9422701

>>9422579
MUH CHEMISTRY. Too bad no one gives a shit about that, otherwise they would have more people watching them, right?

>> No.9422797

>>9422701
Prove that the mass should be curtailed and herded like a dumb sheep they are. The Jews/Elite/Illuminati was right all along.

>> No.9422811

>Lulu
Anon why do you have to reopen my wounds?

>> No.9422868

>>9422701
>MUH CHEMISTRY
So sad to see Holofags cope like this. Getting along with people totally doesn't matter in the entertainment industry bro.

>> No.9422884

>>9422340
They're hiring more. Maybe the new girls will blow up in popularity and save the whole branch. As for the male branch, well, Holostars is a thing and they're doing worse than the current NijiEN

>> No.9422906

>>9422701
The chemistry is literally the most important element of having a decent collaboration though. I know that holoen can get like 30,000 views for a collab of a bunch of wallflowers whispering 2 word sentences to each other because of the reddit crowd that worships the cover brand, but it's not actually entertaining for people who want to laugh at something enjoyable.

Part of it can probably be chalked up to the "oshi" push that holos have, so retards feel they have to support their favorite because it's a club they belong to in a parasocial fashion, but I just watch nijien streams because they're lovable idiots who make good entertainment.

>> No.9422953

>>9422579
>frogposter spouting bullshit
checks out

>> No.9422956
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Oh wow, the falseflagger upped his game by not using Google search image anymore

>> No.9423020

>>9422953
>no caps or punctuation.

Go back, twitterchama.

>> No.9423098

>>9422868
The ones who are coping are the nijifags, bringing up useless metrics like CHEMISTRY, just because nijiEN is losing in every metric that matters. You don't see any other fanbase bringing this shit up, and to be honest, its embarrasing just how desperate they sound now. Cope more.

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>>9422340
WRONG FUCKING BOARD DOGFUCKER
>>>/jp/

>> No.9423194

>>9423098
>You don't see any other fanbase bringing this shit up,
You don't read many generals then.

>> No.9423236

>>9422340
>Western girls are a bunch of uninteresting basic bitch weebs
It is like if weeaboos and people who lived the anime culture through the internet to the point to learn the language just to be in par with the nihongo are blocked by the EN audience.
We wont get the EN mito for the same reason we wont get the EN kizuna.

>> No.9423332

>>9422340
>The only thing that can change this is the male branch since they'll try something different for once.
If you ever expect anything from male western streamers other than possibly being good at a specific vidya genre you're in for a rude awakening my friend.
>>9422811
>Reopen
If you truly cared about Lulu that wound never closed in the first place faggotchama

>> No.9423548 [DELETED] 

>>9423098
>bringing up useless metrics like CHEMISTRY, just because nijiEN is losing in every metric that matters
Funny way to say "I value numbers over content". I bet you're an iPhoneposter. Seethe and dilate.

>> No.9423783

>>9423548
Isn't content subjective from person to person and numbers are the objective thing showing how many people like the thing they are watching. If NijiEN is so good then why aren't they inclining and why do their live viewers decline as soon as a HoloEN stream starts.

>> No.9423888

>>9422340
Well what did you expect? Portion of their fans are bored holoEN that missing their oshi stream at dead hours which usually nijiEN stream available now that council is filling that dead hours to some extend they flock back, you can see the decrease in numbers for nijiEN live stream oh wait forgot can't use number to gauge or judge nijiEN

>> No.9423983 [DELETED] 

>>9423783
>Isn't content subjective from person to person
Yes. That's why we're having this conversation right now, because both of us have opinions. If entertainment wasn't subjective this board's purpose would be moot.
>numbers are the objective thing showing how many people like the thing they are watching
They certainly show how much people are watching. How many people like the thing they're watching is another story, plenty of people hatewatch streams, especially where Kiara and Nyanners are concerned.
I'd like you to define inclining, because every NijiEN besides maybe Petra is growing steadily in subscriber count and. Taking a quick look at Pomu, she averages higher VOD views than she did some weeks ago. It took Rosemi a while to get into the groove of things but she's no longer getting VODs that're under 10k. I'd say that's inclining. But if you're wondering why they haven't had a big breakout like HoloCouncil it's as simple as brandname. Hololive members get 100s of thousands of subscribers before debut thanks to that brand name. Nijisanji doesn't have the luxury of that. It's not as simple as "big number mean good content, smaller number mean bad content".

>> No.9424370

>>9423983
>plenty of people hatewatch streams
So now the excuse of less numbers is that people hatewatch Holostreams , thus they get more viewers.
>I'd like you to define inclining
Inclining is increase in the median or average number of viewers for a streamer. I don't expect any branch to explode like holos do and I pointed out inclining because of 6 NIJI streamers only Finana and Selen maitained or improved their median CCV from July to August.
>took Rosemi a while to get into the groove of things
This thing. You Niji fans will instantly discredit any Holo member for being a bit uncomfortable but then for Niji members be like let her take time.

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>>9422340
>they'll try something different for once
Oh yeah they'll try to get in their pants that's for sure

>> No.9424485

>>9424370
>You Niji fans will instantly discredit any Holo member for being a bit uncomfortable
Holy shit. Do you believe that everyone who shit on your new holos are Nijinigger?

>> No.9424519

>>9424485
NTA but who else would shit on holos if not nijiniggers or 2view saviorfags

>> No.9424549 [DELETED] 

>>9424370
>So now the excuse of less numbers is that people hatewatch Holostreams , thus they get more viewers
Nope. I'm sure the majority of people who watch Holostreams like them. But to say every viewer represents an entertained viewer is somewhat of a logical fallacy don't you think?
If we're only using gained live viewers as a measure of inclining I mean that's a problem all around. Is even Gura or Pekora gaining live viewers? All I've seen is doomposting about that lately. If less live viewers is indicative of failure I don't think it makes sense to single out NijiEN in this respect. Just seems like you're an angry tribalist to me. You're talking like I'm attacking your girls, I haven't done such a thing at all.

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>>9423098
The metric that matters is Elira's 3 sizes

>> No.9424663

>>9424485
Most of the conversation goes like - something something ( random Niji member ) has better chemistry / more entertaining than ( Random Holocouncil member ). Then they shill that Niji member. So yeah any sane person will think that person is a Nijinigger.

>> No.9424666

>>9422340
Don't get your hopes up, wave 4 is going to be Elira's chuuba friends.

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You fags parrot the nijien girls as if they were the bastion of creativity and entertainment compared to holoen but when I tried to watch Finana and Selen it's the same fucking shit. Stop having your judgement blinded by bias holy shit stop this tribalism bullshit

>> No.9424723

>>9422340
>It's just discount hololive
It's just Hololive but with talented and motivated people :)

>> No.9424759

>>9424723
Don't forget, they also have chemistry!

>> No.9424782

>>9424723
and they feel more like a real person!

>> No.9424785

>>9424687
Sounds like they have a lot in common with Teamates

>> No.9424810

>>9424519
>>9424663
It is insanely easy to falseflag on this board. You'd think after KFps admitted that they shitpost Kiara for fun people would start realising that even holofans can shit on Holos for (You)s. All of this shit was happening before NijiEN came along, they just got another target that can use.

>> No.9424854

>>9424687
Nobody's mentioned anything about "creativity", but the two NijiEN that you list are the two who are more gaming-focused rather than creativity-focused.
As a comparison, that would be like someone saying that Hololive has good FPS players, and then watching Calli to see if it's true.

>> No.9424880

/JP/sies(there's really only one person lol) want to push the narrative that they're irrelevant yet shachou can't stop talking about Pomu and I have seen many Japanese ppl in chat adding Pomu to their name

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>>9423098
The only metric that matters is Elira's 3 sizes

>> No.9424907

>>9422340
>see nothing but people with hololive pfps, hololive memes, streamers themselves pandering to holobronies, etc
Happens in most of the startups too, that's just how the western vtuber markets is anon. It's not something exclusive to Nijsanji

>> No.9424920 [DELETED] 

>>9424759
>>9424782
The seethe radiating off of these posts is palpable.

>> No.9424965

Of course NijiEN has more chemistry. They were all hired from the same vtubing circle and the males are also all going to be from the same vtubing circle. While this improves the supposed "chemistry" that you fags are so obsessed with, it also hampers growth since the talents are too similar and don't bring much to the table to make the content unique.

The advantage Hololive has with EN is that they hired a diverse group of talents from all over the world with different specializations. Each of them brings something different to the table. You are going to get a completely different experience watching IRyS than you are from watch Mori for example. This will not only give each individual member a chance to grow over the collective but it will also let them maintain their individual growth since they can each cultivate their own fanbases.

>> No.9425039

>>9424965
That's fair. I personally enjoy the "chemistry" a lot more, but to each their own. I don't even hate the HoloEN girls, I just don't like Cover's walled garden bullshit that they've been doing the past year

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>>9422701
>MUH CHEMISTRY.

>> No.9425200

>>9424965
>since the talents are too similar and don't bring much to the table to make the content unique
Watching a Finana stream is pretty different from watching an Elira stream. Same with watching a Rosemi stream and watching a Petra stream. Are you okay anon?

>> No.9425287

>>9424965
>They were all hired from the same vtubing circle
No, only two were indirectly in the same circle (Elira and Pomu). And one of the two was friends with a third(Pomu-Rosemi). The other three were total strangers. And yet, those three strangers were able to integrate into the three who knew each other very well.
As for the males, none of the males in that circle have announced graduation yet, so it's too early to tell if they will be part of the male wave or not.
For talents being too similar because they know each other, that can't be further from the truth. Elira is a zoomer fujo shotacon who likes doing long, laid-back gaming streams. Pomu is a boomer otaku idolfag who likes coming up with creative non-gaming streams. And yet, these two have been joined at the hip in vtubing for over a year.

>> No.9425507

>>9424663
It's probably the same faggot boasting about chemistry, probably not aware about how retarded it sounds. Chemistryfags are a thing now.

>> No.9425585

>>9425507
Never have I seen a man so mad that people are happy others get along until you.

>> No.9425598

>>9425039
Fair enough, I also have nothing against the NijiEN girls, I checked them out and I didn't see anything special to pull me in. I really don't give a shit about "chemistry", as most of their streams are solo anyway. Not speaking for anyone out there, but in my opinion, I feel that most people don't care as much about chemistry, unless they are already fans of the streamer.

>> No.9425639

>>9424965
Meanwhile Hololive hired at least one person from Ina's friendlist in Holocouncil

Also you do not watch NijisanjiEN if you think they are all the same

Shut the fuck up tribalist

>> No.9425662

>People don't care about chemistry
Did you guys forget what Trinity posting was built upon? It wasn't only about shitting on Kiara and Mori.

>> No.9425708

>>9422340
>streamers themselves pandering to holobronies, etc
do they? i don't hear any of that last time i watched Elira

>> No.9425719

>>9425708
OP doesn't watch streams, please understand.

>> No.9425808

>>9424965
Anon you were justified making retarded takes about NijiJP because you're an EOP but NijiEN fucking speak English anyone can go and check them out so stop being dumb.

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Somebody is Jelly of NijiEN

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>>9423983
The more flies are attracted to shit, the shittier it is. That's all you had to say, anon.

>> No.9426358

>>9424666
Oooh, they will definetly have more chemistry than anyone in Hololive, and quite possibly even more chemistry than Lazulight and Obsidia. I can't wait!

>> No.9426376 [DELETED] 

>>9426358
>Obsidia
At least try, chemistry-anti man.

>> No.9426383

>>9424880
Shachou thinks Pomu is great and his chat exploded with I'm Pomu when he was using her in Powapro the other day. Oliver said Finana is a streamer he has been interested in on Kenmochi's totsu. Shibuya Hal personally invited Selen to his custom match. Debi is spotted in Petra's stream chat. Fumi has covered EN on NijiZIP far more than KR and ID. /jp/ can suck my cock

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>>9425954

>> No.9426666
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>>9422340
Yup, NijiJP has always impressed me with their variety, out of the box content creators, bending of the rules of vtubing, on top of having both males and females in every generation to show it doesn't matter to be entertaining. Yet NijiEN was anything but Nijisanji, it just felt like an Hololive branch, going for the usual cute and harmless girls doing cute things, not a single guy in both waves, a basic formula seen countless times and overdone, it's really Holo discount in every way and it was really a disappointment. Even NijiKR got talents like Roha who stand out.

>> No.9426690

>>9425954
>>9426650
where do those drawings come from? they are fucking everywhere
Is this basically Japanese Clipart?

>> No.9426714

>>9422340
I like the feesh

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>>9422340
>male branch
This will kill the first three waves

>> No.9426716

>>9426666
Why do you do this in every thread about males

>> No.9426718

>>9426690
More or less yeah. There's a website full of them.

>> No.9426729

>>9426716
Because it's important to spread the truth and I had expectations for NijiEN and wish it has been different.

>> No.9426738

>9426666
>it just felt like an Hololive branch
Why lie like this?

>> No.9426772

>>9426738
It's true tho, there is nothing that particularly stand out once you remove your rose colored glasses you put to convince yourself you didn't just jump in the new shiny thing.

>> No.9426786

>>9426716
It's worse, now he's updating his pasta and trying to drag Roha into it.

>> No.9426794

>>9422340
I mean this was obvious to me from day 1 although the NijiEN fans pretend real fucking hard like they're any different at fucking all going in on the "holobrony" tribalism even though 90% of them were themselves exactly-that a couple months ago. Ridiculous and flimsy imo.

NijiEN itself is alright, they have some good and some boring talents like any other agency. It is pretty stark how the lack of memery clip/algo exposure makes that much a difference in growth trajectories and overall audience impact. It also probably speaks as to how tightly Cover holds Holo fans to company loyalty strings with the literal Yagoo worship and the erroneous perception that Cover is a special juggernaut all the way up and it's due to everyone there that it's such a success (as opposed to the talents' viral success and the clippers enabling it).

>> No.9426799

>>9426716
Doesn't that mean you're also in every niji thread tho

>> No.9426802

>>9426786
I wish he'd kill himself for using Mayuzumi and Roha

>> No.9426839

>>9426772
You were already proven wrong in another thread, get some meds.

>> No.9426842

>NijiEN is just Hololive
>Because they do [insert trait that literally all female vtubers do even Nijisanji]
Why are Holofags like this? Why are you so insistent on broadcasting that you only watch Hololive when you shitpost about le other company?

>> No.9426865

>>9426786
It's not a pasta, I write an enteirly new post every time even if the meaning is similar, you can check.

>> No.9426967

>>9426842
I'm not a holofag, the only Holo I checked was Astel for his singing and autism. Mostly watch NijiJP like Mayuzumi, Chaika, Masru as well as Rikiichi content and sometimes Kana and Ran. I've yet to see a NijiEN really stand out like that, plus for some reason they decided to only hire girls wich is an obvious sign of pandering to the Holo fanbase full of unicorns.
>>9426839
But I wasn't

>> No.9427044

>>9426967
You have to be retarded to think Masaru somehow "stands out" but none of the Niji ENs do.

>> No.9427063

>>9426666
>cute and harmless girls doing cute things

very cute and wholesome and inoffensive Finana

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>>9426690
>>9426718
My favorite is Shubaru explaining the plot of Alien using this clipart before her Aliens 2 watchalong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiR_gwjzZ6c

>> No.9427099

>>9426967
Meds, please.

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What these non-holochuubafags should realize is the majority of holofags already got attached to the talents and you can't just say out of the blue to switch agency overnight. This takes process. But this constant barrage of vilification of their idols will do nothing but harden their resolve and continue to support Hololive. Case in point: Coco and the taiwan incident. Nijifags and 2view groomers if you want these fags to be converted, don't belittle their oshis to advertise yours because that's how a tribalist is born instead.

>> No.9427127

>>9426967
>comparing men to women
>comparing Mayuzumi's level of kayfabe to regular streamers
>thinking Masaru is groundbreaking
He is groundbreakingly cute but really?

>> No.9427159

>>9427116
I don't think most nijifags are the ones shitting on Hologirls. Problem is all it takes is a couple of tourist retards falseflagging for people to be convinced one side hates them.

>> No.9427186

>>9426650
BASED

>> No.9427192

>>9426967
>They decided to only hire girls
I don't understand the big deal over this and I'm someone who almost exclusively watch Nijimales. It's only two waves and 6 livers so far and they're already auditioning males as we speak. The first NijiJP males are Hajiki and Aki, can you tell how they're "notable" this day? If someone like Hajiki becomes first male big corpo EN vtuber Niji threads will be unusable for weeks and people like (You) will be at the forefront of that shitposting.

>> No.9427193

>>9422461
You're talking about cumbuds anon

>> No.9427195

>>9426967
I love how you never comment on 80% of the women in Nijisanji who are just the same as EN who are cute and play games all day aside from the professional singers and horny drunkards.

>> No.9427210

>>9426967
OP may have been baiting but I do think there is some truth to saying that you might not get standout talents for the male side in EN like you have in JP. For all we know most male EN applicants might be genuinely bad.

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>>9426690
https://www.irasutoya.com/

>> No.9427245

>>9427192
For some reason I thought Kenmochi was one of the first Nijimales as well. But your point still stands that at least two of the three early ones weren't really all that.

>> No.9427301

>>9427192
What the hell is Aki's deal? He feels like a no one yet he's the eldest male aside from Hajiki who still regularly talks to people. Even Moira was on Noraneko's endurance and she barely does things.

>> No.9427305

>>9427159
It's still easy to counter, do the opposite when Niji Colabs with Holo say shit like: "Wow Holo (insert girl) was cute and funny I think i'll watch her" the last could be an absolute lie but they won't know that and appreciate it'll you'll probably get the same back.

>> No.9427332

>>9427116
Holofags becoming more extremist is exactly what I want.

>> No.9427367

>>9427301
Probably just a bit of a loner, the older members of groups can become like that.

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>>9427332
This but unironically

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>>9427301
Aki is, obviously, actually a girl just like Masaru but in comparison fairly quiet and boring, likely a hag, and Nijihags are infamous for being fairly loose about schedules and streaming. That's fine because he still got a certain purple haired lolicon as a longtime fan

>> No.9427406

>>9425507
>fun is a buzzword
>chemistry is just a meme

>> No.9427439

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH SEEEEEX WITH AKI AND MUGI

>> No.9427453

>>9426842
Because hololive specifically gained a large following on reddit and reddit is really fucking weird about worshiping and consuming a particular company as a replacement for things like ethnic, religious or familial identity.

>> No.9427527

>>9427453
and nijifags don't? they just do it on discord instead because reddit is hololive's turf

>> No.9427543

>>9427401
I mean his lack of interaction, can't think of much in recent times other than his radio with Moira and Chii-chan.

>> No.9427559

>>9422340
>The only thing that can change this is the male branch
No. EN kenmochi would get eviscerated and shitcanned on sight. You're not allowed to be a male streamer unless you're a thug or a frat bro and like your girls extra thicc, above the age of 30, and with another man's kid in tow. Because that's the demographic that has a stranglehold on western culture.

And it goes without saying that any socially acceptable male vtuber will just be an inferior alternative compared to the current reigning nignogs and frat bros of twitch. This is why male vtubers can't succeed in the west. If you so much as step one foot outside being anything other than yet another yas queen simp, you run the risk of being run off the platform. But if you don't, you're effectively irrelevant. It's a no win position where the only path forward is to hit the gym and become a dudebro streamer like all the rest. Unironic weebs need not apply.

Anyone looking for quality male vtubers should just do their nihongo reps.

>> No.9427560

>>9427245
To be fair Kenmochi only debuted a month after Mito, waves worked much differently from early Niji compared to today Niji let alone NijiEN. But if NijiEN worked just like Niji back then, this board will be flooded with shitpost about how they're getting a dozen boring chuubas and only a handful of actually interesting ones and won't shut the fuck up about it.

>> No.9427584

>>9422340
>watch an EN vtuber's stream
>see nothing but people with hololive pfps, hololive memes, streamers themselves pandering to holobronies, etc
ftfy

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>>9427527
I'm speaking more of the fact that entubers exploded in popularity last year and reddit latched on to cover as the primary entuber company, leading to the dominance of cover among entubers even if jpniji and jpholo are more evenly matched.

>> No.9427768

>>9427127
>>9427044
Alright I agree this one is not the most unique in content but his character really stands out, there is not a single even remotly decent shota in the west, and his covers are interesting.

>> No.9427774

>>9427559
>>9427192
What are the chances of an EN Fuwa or Yashiro being out there? I know an EN Kuzuha/Kanae/Ibrahim/Ebio would just be a 3D streamer but is there a chance for a simple IT tech and a retard?

>> No.9427853
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>>9427774
I can be the Male EN Meiro
>works on japanese animation
>big menhera (autism)
I'm overqualified already

>> No.9427877

>>9427768
Because EN men and women can't do enticing shota voices, they all sound like Timmy Turner.

>> No.9427900

>>9427853
Autism just means you eat ants, it's not the same as being menhera.

>> No.9429035

>>9427527
Ask a Nijiniggers if they know Noah, Sana, Met, Patra, Nose, Gorilla, Siro, Peanut, and Tenkai. They will immediately know. Ask this to Holobronies. They probably wouldn't even know a single name I mentioned. So who is the tribalist here?

>> No.9429172

>>9427774
I think simple concepts like yashiro's would work better for the english male wave. Relatability is a lot more important for males because it's more of a bro experience and too much kayfabe might get in the way of that a bit.

>> No.9429356

>>9422340
The only difference between nijisanji EN and hololive EN is the marketing clout of Yagoo.
Lots of talent in nijisanji EN

>> No.9429389

>>9429356
And Hololive EN doesn't?

>> No.9429414

>>9429035
>Ask a Nijiniggers if they know Noah, Sana, Met, Patra, Nose, Gorilla, Siro, Peanut, and Tenkai. They will immediately know.
Lmao he's still in denial about the nijien "fans"

>> No.9430100

>>9429389
There's a lot of talent in both agencies but Hololive has a major buff from brand recognition and virality that Niji doesn't, so one agency has massively inflated numbers relative to the other.
It sounds bad to say Holo EN doesn't "deserve" their numbers but a lot of them come from extremely aggressive viral marketing by clippers, artists, fans etc.

>> No.9430234

>>9422340
WHERE ARE THE NIJICLIPS? WHY DON'T I GET NIJICLIPS???

>> No.9430283

>>9430100
There is no talent in Nijishitty

>> No.9430364

>>9422340
Chat is full of holobronies. But Selen streams aren't boring like holoEN streams.

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>>9430234
We don't want to attract the reddit crowd. They don't deserve to be in our fandom.

>> No.9430508

>>9430234
There's a playlist with like 5k translated clips.

>> No.9430516

Why would I want Hololive fans to switch over to Nijisanji when I watch Nijisanji? They earn a decent amount of money and enough to stay afloat. I don't get anything if they get more popular. And identifying with a brand is pathetic.

>> No.9430517

>>9430234
They are out there, you just have to look for it...

>> No.9430548

>>9422340
Fuck off Juan, comeback to suck AL-chang dick

>> No.9430608

>>9429414
We are talking about who is the real tribalist here. All NijiEn fans are former Holofags who probably still watch some Hololive girls or Holostars. Because of that, you cannot call NijiEnfags tribalist because they don't just sit in the hole watching only NijiEn. You cannot call NijiJP fans tribalist either because most of them actually watch indies or small company like 774inc, Re-Act or VSPO. Especially Apexfag. My real oshis are actually from VSPOs despite being fulltime NIDF. Just because we told rrat/drama-peddling Holobronies to fuck off doesn't mean we are tribalist. We just absolutely hate you, holobrony. Because you refused to watch anything outside Hololive and call other vtubers that are not Hololive talentless because they don't have big, bloated numbers like Hololive. Even though they are successful because chink gacha collab, chinks meme clips and algorithm. Not because of talents that Holobronies always boast off. Cover is incompetent fuck who don't deserve the success they got. I don't care if VShitshow or Tsunderia become no1. As long it's not Cover. Anything But Cover.

>> No.9430636

>>9422340
>try something different for once.
watch indies you corporate bootlicker

>> No.9430663

>>9422340
didnt read but id like to sit on mito's face

>> No.9430691

>>9430636
Tell that to Holobronies, nigger.

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>>9430608

>> No.9431042

>>9430364
Yeah they're even worse. At least half of every stream is wasted laughing because she cant actually say anything entertaining.

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>>9430608

>> No.9431301

>>9430608
Such a roundabout way of admitting you're also a tribalist

>> No.9431656

>>9431301
How the fuck am I a tribalist when I never stick to one company like Holobronies and actually watch lot of indies and small company? At least call me Holoantis.

>> No.9432019

>>9430995
go back to twitter

>> No.9432677 [DELETED] 

The only thing i find weird about tribalist holofag is the fact that even if they stuck with their brand they still say other brand is copying their brand or don't bring anything new,

The fact that they can say thing like that while also say shit like "nijiEN all meh because nothing new" but still watch new hololive girl even tho they pretty much the same HAHAHAHA girl,

First you drop the girl because they meh(also on brand you don't want to support), second you support same meh girl on your brand cuz they on your brand, WTF!?

If they the same why don't you support them then? More girl to watch more fun, if you can support same MEH girl on your brand then why don't you support the other MEH girl on other brand?

Like what the fuckin poin to even say the girl is meh when you own brand girl ia a MEH

>Suck my MEH!

>> No.9432872

>>9432677
English reps onegai

>> No.9432933

>>9432677
HOLY ESL

>> No.9432967

Holofags be like

>Your girl is same boring hololive discount! I never gonna watch them!

Also holofags "Watching same persona HA HA HA girl on their own brand"

>QUEEN LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU CUTE! AND YOUR NUMBER IS HOT

Tribalist at its finess

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>>9422340
How are they failures? I watch Pomu, Elira, and Finana everyday I can.

>> No.9433018

>>9432992
Because failures watching failures means nothing.

>> No.9433093

>>9422340
>"stop ruin my authentic japanese experience!"

>> No.9433120

>>9422340
>It's just discount hololive
>bunch of holo rejects
i wonder why

>> No.9433204

>>9424965
it's funny when holobronies praising holoJP's "family" muh "chemistry" over nijiJP, but when it come to nijiEN, "chemistry" doesn't matter, double standard eh?

>> No.9433243

>>9430283
Nice bait

>> No.9434449

>>9432992
based Chad

>> No.9434711

>>9433204
>holofags
>hypocrites

>> No.9439669

>>9422906
That's the strength of holo brand tho, they're good in solos, sure Niji collabs are pure kino but does that happens all the time? no right? and surely if you do it too much, you'd be called collab beggar and that's another bad thing. Cover knows this and they put strong individuals because indeed they know most chuuba streams are done solo and that's where they stonks at

>> No.9440376

>>9422701
Brand Loyalty, have you ever heard of it?

>> No.9440415

>>9434711
>as if we didn't already know.

>> No.9440536

>>9439669
>collab beggar

They happen because Pomu likes to play with her friends like when she tried to hijack Elira's stream so she could force her to play minecraft instead of some other memegame.

>> No.9440728

>>9440415
>we

>> No.9440763

>>9422579
WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

>> No.9441136

>>9439669
>sure Niji collabs are pure kino but does that happens all the time? no right? and surely if you do it too much, you'd be called collab beggar and that's another bad thing.
Not every single stream, but it happens often and at the spur of the moment. Even when they are playing different games. Just a couple of days ago, three of them were doing their own separate gaming streams, and one thing led to another and the three began talking about which NijiEN girl is which Naruto character (as a joke), with two of them pulling up Paint to draw the others, live on stream.

>> No.9441642

>>9441136
same with Selen playing Tetris, noticing Elira in the chat and inviting her to play against each other. They ended up having a 1v1 duel+ some team battles against the AI, all because Elira was free and happened to drop by. I'd say stuff like that happens often enough not to feel forced and remain interesting.

>> No.9441723

>>9422579
>frog
Go back.

>> No.9441977

>>9422340
How the fuck is Anya doing better than Petra? Nijienfags would rather shitpost about Hololive than watch their own livers, is that it?

>> No.9443716

>>9424485
Anyone not supporting the great hololive is a nijinigger to me with the exception of voms chad.

You support an indie? Nijinigger
You support vshojo? Nijinigger+

>> No.9443973

>>9422340
>I was already pissed at the holobrony fanbase that Lulu had back then. Her chat was full of the same retards.
The only interesting Niji girl just happened to be the only one who attracted hololive fans? It's almost like we have higher standards.

>> No.9445507

>>9422340
Not surprising seeing how similar to Hololive Anycolor marketed NijiEN at the begginning, especially from the point of view of the general western market, that said the girls have made plenty of efforts to make their own image and have gotten plenty of success on it (JP Niji fans certainly see them as very Niji-like), but they certainly could try a bit harder seeing as they still get idiots saying they are idols in spite of them denying it every time.
But man are you wrong and clouded by Holoshit if you seriously think NijiEN is a failure.
>>9422461
Considering that Finana has already gotten message telling her to open more to chat, which we already know where that usually leads to, especially with female chuubas, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

>> No.9445673

>>9424965
Wouldn't be surprised if that happens with the males too, since wave 3 seems like it will also be filled with people who already knew the current members.
Dunno where you are getting the similar content thing from tho, Finana's content is pretty different from Selen's for example, they coming from the same circle doesn't really affect their content in that way.
>>9426666
Just a little fix but not all JP waves have been mixed, but mixed is pretty common among all branches, except EN because... tomato.

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