/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>936961
Dump her now. If she's looking at this niche and seeing dollar signs, you're not going to like where the relationship goes.

>>936961
>So she found out about this vtuber thing this month. She showed me how much money a vtuber makes and the amount made me appalled.
You are not gonna make it, give up.

Go look at the Twitter indie community before you do, to say it's oversaturated is an understatement

>>936961
Advertise her on reddit with a sad story to bait paypigs.

The #1 tip I can give you is to make sure that your VTuber design is made after an animal.

There is absolutely no room for creativity. You see all of the different mythologies that exist in the world and all the cool creatures within them that'd make for actual, interesting avatars?

Yeah, scratch that. People want to see animals and only animals. It's important that you don't go against the grain by picking one that hasn't been done before, like an ostrich or a moose. No, feline, canine, shark, or whale. These are the only options you have to make your VTuber model with.

Trust me. After all, if you can't trust a random anon on 4chan, who can you trust?

>>936980
This

Also have you SEEN the numbers indies pull here? If she does it she has to want to do it for FUN
You know, as something to do in your freetime? As in, NOT for money? Ring a bell?

If she's only in it for dollar signs she's going to be disappointed she isn't pulling in people, she'll get stressed over having to put on a constant happy face for manchildren and she will take out her resentment and dismay at her lack of success out on you.

If she does make it big, she will likely drop you or it will come to end because it consumes her life.

If she wants to do it for a job it's not going to be worth it for either of you.

>>936961
Good luck affording a live 2D rig that will get you an audience buddy. You'll also need a decent audio capturing setup. Also I hope your girlfriend has the charisma necessary to recoup your investment.

>>936961
Do you have 5 to 10 thousand dollars to invest in an actual good model and rigging? Are you okay with never making a fraction of that back because of the industry being oversaturated with people who think that being a vtuber is instant success? 99.9% of indie vtubers don't make shit. If you're okay with these things, go for it.

>>936961
Becoming a Vtuber for money is like becoming a youtuber for money, it is simply a stupid idea, the market is so oversaturated the only ones that can make a living out of it and nothing else are the top of the top, if this post is serious and your girlfriend wants to become a Vtuber the fact that she wants in for the money is already a flag for failure because if she is lucky she might get a few viewers on the first few months or even years of streaming

>>936980
>You are not gonna make it, give up.
No vtuber has failed ever before.. has it?

>>937169
>Do you have 5 to 10 thousand dollars to invest in an actual good model and rigging?
Where did you get that price? The websites told me it only costs less than 3 grand for the full rig. But we wouldn't mind for 10k as a start. Is 10k the best or just mid tier?

Go to reddit and type out a sad story like: I wanted to debut but had to spend the money I saved up for the rigging for my leg surgery and now I can't even pay my rent, then ask them to donate money. And now you made more money than 90 % of western "Vtubers".

>>937263
Be sure to drop something in about an autistic little brother or how you're trans and got kicked out of your parents home and trying to make a go at vtubing

>>937252
10-15 grand is what is paid for the top rigging jobs for people who do stuff for Hololive/Nijisanji tier vtuber models. But these people are booked up for months, sometimes years. Most of them have their DMs closed now and will not take commissions. I'm not sure where you can find someone that good who has time to do it. Everyone is having the same thoughts as your gf, it's like when people buy at the top when a stock goes viral. Right now you're attempting to join at the height of the craze.

>>936961
You and your GF are dumb. If she wanted to make money out of Vtubing, she should have started in August at the very least. There are way too many chubbas for it to be monetarily viable in the short term.
I mean how much streaming experiance has she got? If it isn't a lot then she'll struggle at the beginning. How is her voice? If it isn't sexy or adorably cute, she'll then have to HEAVILY rely on her personality. Though, I doubt that it is strong enough to carry her as: one, you guys are trying to make money first so your gf's vapid pursuit will come across strongly; and Secondly, you guys are searching for concepts and looks which suggests a lack of confidence in your gf's communication skills.
Personality matters a lot more than model when it comes to vtubbing.

>>937283
could also pick the kirei cake option and say that they have to spend the whole day taking care of their sick mother

>>937316
Remember OP, cute vtubers are a dime a dozen. If your gf's personality doesn't draw them in they'll just move on to the next. It's a buyer's market in vtubing right now

Oh, here's another tip.

Your GF is, eventually, going to come to the realization that this all might be more difficult than it seemed. Starting on any sort of passion is daunting, and VTubing is no different.

It's important that she becomes paralyzed in the fear that she'll never actually do well and, therefore, procrastinate on starting her first stream. She's going to want to stay on Twitter for at least four to six months before she finally works up the courage to make any sort of content.

Bonus points if, while she's procrastinating, she makes controversial, or political, statements on her VTuber account. And even more if she makes a face reveal before she's even had her first stream.

This will kill any adrenaline that she might've built for her VTuber career and ensure that she starts with either no following or a very disappointed one. But that's exactly what you want. Because if expectations have already sunken as low as possible, you can only go up from there! Right? ...Right?

>>936980
Pretty much if she ONLY cares about the money, I can almost guarantee you that best case scenario your relationship may turn sour due to work related stress, worst case she does something horrible from letting the success go to her head possibly leading to something like her fucking a male vtuber or some shit behind your back.

If your first thought going into this is money, you will fail immediately.

>>937311
>10-15 grand is what is paid for the top rigging jobs for people who do stuff for Hololive/Nijisanji tier vtuber models.
That's not a lot. I'd even pay double than that if it makes us a lot of money like that Gura shark vtuber.

>>937316
>You and your GF are dumb.
Making money is now dumb???
>If she wanted to make money out of Vtubing, she should have started in August at the very least.
We only knew about how much a vtuber makes this month. I saw a video once of a blonde vtuber with horns in it and thought it was just some childish show. Never thought of it seriously.
>How is her voice?
Her voice is cute, she can mimic Matsuri's voice but only that she can't speak Japanese.
>Personality matters a lot more than model when it comes to vtubbing.
I understand and I agree to it. Although when I watched some videos today of other vtubers, many of them seemed to be pretending to be cute.

>>937515
If vtubers were pessimistic then people wouldn't be attracted to them, wouldn't they?

ITT: people still falling for this pasta
we truly are a board full of newfags

>>937680
Most optimists go into a career wanting to obtain something of personal value first, and then letting the living from it come next.

>>936961
good luck with how many there are now. Indies don't even make as much as you think they do. Even for holomen, before they got into the company, most had to have part-time jobs

>>936961
Most felines are overdone, including lions. If you have to go with cat go with mythological, cryptid, or prehistoric.

As far as needing a concept. Try sabertooth tiger cavewoman. Use cave and jungle themes as your backdrop or theme.

By the way make sure you get a ecchi or hentai artist to design your GFs character.
If you cant get a rig just png tube.

If youre in it for the money your better off joining an agency or group-up with some like minded indies.

>>937632
>>You and your GF are dumb.
>Making money is now dumb??
It's not making money itself. It's that it's your only motive when you're coming into a really crowded market and coming in with that attitude will very likely hurt your relationship and give both of you stress for the reasons listed above. And that's if she sticks it out .

Actually listen to what the people here are saying. If you want affirmation for your girlfriend's personal choices go to reddit.

lmao are you retards seriously falling for this bait?

/vt/ truly is the lowest IQ board

>>937061
Even if mythological creatures would make for interesting avatars, that doesn't necessarily make them attractive avatars. A girl with an elephant face like that one Hindu god would be interesting, but I wouldn't want to look at it for a 2-hour stream.

>>937780
Man I don't give a shit if it's bait or not. I've got nothing better to do than reply if it is, and if it ain't, well, people really do be that dumb

>>937780
If the six hate threads for Kiara haven't already told you, /vt/ is bored as fuck and will take even the lowest quality bait.

>>937727
>>937780
>copypasta that's somehow a copypasta despite 2 people knowing about it
>HAHA LOOK AT THESE IDIOTS GIVING SOMEONE ADVICE
>GOT EM

>>937632
>That's not a lot. I'd even pay double than that if it makes us a lot of money like that Gura shark vtuber
Gura is an anomaly, her roommate ALREADY had a very successful YT channel AND she is part of a very popular MULTINATIONAL brand. You won't get anywhere near the amount of money Gura makes. Shr isn't even the biggest money maker of her Company

>Making money is now dumb???
In this case, yeah. You are the same as the people who bought cryptocurrency in 2019, too money hungry and too late.
>Although when I watched some videos today of other vtubers, many of them seemed to be pretending to be cute.
See you feel that many vtubers are bullshiting you? Your gf will be seen in the same light and thus probably won't make a living out of vtubbing.

>>937780
Really? But you pay 100 bucks to a grand on an anime girl who just talks on the camera and that doesn't make you dumb?

>>937788
She could just have the ears and tail.
>>937937
I mean 100 euro is a lot of money for getting your message read. Way I see it, most chuubas appreciate it more if you just get a membership. YT takes a large cut anyway. They keep the company running but a company does not magically care for their employees being validated, so I think just about any form of support that isn't misguided or low-effort is better than throwing money at them, but it pays their bills and is easy to do, I guess.

>>937892
>Gura is an anomaly, her roommate ALREADY had a very successful YT channel AND she is part of a very popular MULTINATIONAL brand. You won't get anywhere near the amount of money Gura makes.
Okay, so she's employed in an entertainment company. The company spent a lot of ads and publications of her, that's really good marketing. Joining a vtuber company is a good advice.
>In this case, yeah. You are the same as the people who bought cryptocurrency in 2019, too money hungry and too late.
I'm not the same as them. I don't see how cryptocurrency are valuable. But from we've seen on how vtubers act and entertain their viewers, they're surely more valuable than cryptocurrencies.
>See you feel that many vtubers are bullshiting you?
I can't really say that since I have no evidence. But what I can say is that my gf can do better, and of course, she will be honest to her viewers, no BS.

>>938051
>He doesn't know who Gura actually is

>>936961
Bro she is going to cheat on you with her top superchatters it happens all the time. You need to stop her

La-Lion already exists but some overlap is ok, there are already I think four demons vtubers just in hololive Though you want more than just an animal. The more successful ones have a gimmick or niche that sets them apart. Like botan isn’t just a lion, she’s a /k/ommando lion. Ofc don’t go the other way and combine too many ideas like a sapphic idol-warrior phoenix fast-food manager.

>>938051
Alright, you got me, this is some low tier bait. If it's not, and you're actually this dumb, you deserve to lose all your money on a failed endeavor.

>>937780
The asymptotic chance this is real is more than enough reason to try to turn people from this mistake.

>>938303
Don't forget passersby who may see this thread

isn't this the same copy pasta posted last week?

>>938051
>Okay, so she's employed in an entertainment company. The company spent a lot of ads and publications of her, that's really good marking.
HAHAHAHAHA. Gura wasn't heavily marketed. Cover didn't buy up ads to sell her. You should research a lot more before even attempting to be a vtuber. The thing is Hololive is a big company so she had a bigger audience to exposed to her.
>Joining a vtuber company is a good advice.
Does your gf have any experiance? If not then I doubt any agency, especially the big ones, will hire her.
>I'm not the same as them.
You are because you are trying to make a profit out of a saturated market. There are probably already tens of thousands of vtubbers out there. People tend to only give money to a few. What makes your gf any different.
>But what I can say is that my gf can do better, and of course, she will be honest to her viewers, no BS.
Sell me on your gf. What is her appeal?

>>938051
I better see a damn good answer to
>>938457
>Sell me on your gf. What is her appeal?
Sell us on the pen OP

Assuming this isn't a bait, piece of advice:
If you want to get into V-tubing, find a niche that isn't already being filled. I highly doubt your girlfriend can outcompete the already established names, I don't care how confident you are, unless she something really special, the chances of her being able to go toe to toe with multimillion dollar companies like Holo and Niji, or with industry veterans like Ironmouse, are slim to none.

All the recent examples of new comers being successful that I can think of are people filling gimmicks that hadn't been taken, such as Fukutachi Mana filling the niche of "metal vtuber" or Abigail dovely filling the niche of "christian vtuber"

If you can't find a niche to fill, then its already too late for you.

>>938051
No, dumbass, you new or something? Gura isn't just some random girl with no talent that Cover pick up and then promote and make it big. People don't just become the second biggest vtubber in the world (and soon to become the biggest) just because of some god damn marketing, her roomate was a god damn veteran on the internet and built her own yt channel to 1 mil sub on her own and she was a professional singer, she was already big and has what it takes, not some god damn untalented hobo that Cover picked up by the street. If you think that by just having a cute avatar, cute voice and some mere marketing to make it big and swim in cash, you sound exactly like the people that bandwagon on the bitcoin trend after it's peak or think that you can just become big like Pewdiepie by screaming at the mic playing horror games, naive and shortsighted.

Just apply to the new generation of HololiveEN. If she's hot shit like she thinks she is, she'll get in.

>>938881
>she was a professional singer
self taught, she gave out some good advice on people who wanted to practice singing but couldn't afford voice/singing coaches.

>>936961
Only a small fraction of a percentage make bank. Only a small community makes a living wage. The rest don't make anything.

Don't listen to these people, go for it. Worst case scenario you're out 10 to 15 grand for a model and some of your GF's free time. She probably won't be successful, but most of the people who are successful now weren't likely to be either. Never know until you try.

>>939092
>Worst case scenario you're out 10 to 15 grand for a model
where the fuck are you getting ripped off for a model at that price?

>>939092
If you read, you'd see they're saying not to do it IF the motive is to make money.

>>939092
If it was for fun, I'd agree. However, she's going in for profit.

>there are people falling for this bait
>it's not even a good bait

Haven't seen this one in a while.

No one watches indies outside of Uto. No one cares

>>939283
>pikamee
>Mint

>>939303
Pikamee isn't an indie, she's part of a group called "Voms"

>>939368
?

>>939283
You forgot about Sio

>>939236
We just decided to use the chance to discuss advice on becoming a chuba

>>936961
Encourage your friends as well to become vtubers! As an artist I love this indie vtuber boom, commissions are pouring in and people like you are always welcome. You're going to be rich!!!

>>939394
>minimum streaming frequency
>Gyari retaining rights to merchandise
>independent
heh

Is it worth it, as a dude, to become a vtuber?
I've a few friends who are vtubers, male and female, and I've been looking for a new hobby.

>>939511
If you want, sure? Don't expect to make cash but if you want to have fun go for it

>>939511
If it’s for fun, and you think you’d enjoy being a streamer, yes. But male vtubers make even less than females on average.

>>939394
Didn't one of their members get canned? How the fuck can that happen if they are "independent"?

ITT:

>>939930
Post an interesting thread then, smart anon.

>>939930
>he thinks this type of anonymous is bait
>but doesn't think that v-tubers who pretends to moan and cum with vibrator sound effects aren't bait
I bet you're also a paypig who can be easily baited.

>>936961
She might get frustrated if she goes into it solely for the money. If she thinks she’ll enjoy it then go for it but plenty of indies don’t make much

>>936961
If she doesn't have autism with an energetic personality then she won't make it.

>>936961
>It's like OF
I'm old; someone translate

>>940882
onlyfans
it's like patreon / a subscription but to some girl uploading porn of herself

>>937727
>>937780
>>938399
>>940033
This board is full of redditors, twitter trash and indie vtubers

>>941466
See >>938303

>>937727
At this point, Hololive is getting mainstream attention and we're about to get even more attention later this year. Everyone is getting in like as if it's the next gold rush. At this rate, it may as well be a pasta.

Holy shit OP can't be real

>>936961
i heard ppl rly want to see a black girl avatar try it out

>>938881
>No, dumbass, you new or something?
He IS new. That's why he's asking if he and his gf could enter this gig.

That will never work out for you, but good luck!

>>937172
You know what, I never realized it but we've come full circle
It started with people making shit for fun, then money, then everyone wanted money, and now we're back to the only reasonable way being fun. Well, not back to, we've evolved still, but being back on the fun train is nice. I've noticed a lot more niche channels popping up

>>937190
Coco is one. Too many controversies and her past of being in an amateur JAV also helped in ending her vtuber career.

>>936961
>We thought we could buy three houses and a car with that money.
>We
kek
if that aint bait the truth is she ll drop yo ass so fast you wont believe it