/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>9336162
>>9336227
Take Nyanners (pic related), which I assume to be the strongest VShoujo so far.
She actually reclined from June to August, from an 8.7k average to a 8.0.


Here is the mean average for all of HoloPro streamers for the month of August

>36385 :: mumei (en2, 4 streams)
>34078 :: ouro (en2, 7 streams)
>29611 :: marine (jp3, 13 streams)
>26727 :: hakos (en2, 8 streams)
>26354 :: ceres (en2, 7 streams)
>22922 :: pekora (jp3, 35 streams)
>18700 :: aqua (jp2, 12 streams)
>17860 :: sana (en2, 7 streams)
>16575 :: ayame (jp2, 3 streams)
>16376 :: gura (en1, 19 streams)
>15970 :: miko (jp0, 47 streams)
>14663 :: shion (jp2, 11 streams)
>13319 :: subaru (jp2, 28 streams)
>13182 :: suisei (jp0, 17 streams)
>11547 :: mio (jpgamers, 21 streams)
>10387 :: rushia (jp3, 22 streams)
>9936 :: haato (jp1, 36 streams)
>9700 :: korone (jpgamers, 26 streams)
>9467 :: inanis (en1, 19 streams)
>9408 :: flare (jp3, 32 streams)
>9316 :: kanata (jp4, 31 streams)
>9242 :: botan (jp5, 28 streams)
>8897 :: nene (jp5, 17 streams)
>8173 :: noel (jp3, 23 streams)


**** TOP VSHOJO WOULD FIT HERE ****

>7854 :: amelia (en1, 26 streams)
>7824 :: watame (jp4, 22 streams)
>7684 :: lamy (jp5, 34 streams)
>6579 :: polka (jp5, 27 streams)
>6512 :: towa (jp4, 30 streams)
>6505 :: irys (ensingers, 27 streams)
>6411 :: calliope (en1, 22 streams)
>6136 :: okayu (jpgamers, 23 streams)
>6057 :: kiara (en1, 24 streams)
>5105 :: fubuki (jp1, 61 streams)
>5044 :: mel (jp1, 9 streams)
>4317 :: ollie (id2, 27 streams)

**** MID VSHOJO WOULD FIT HERE ****

>3759 :: moona (id1, 21 streams)
>3500 :: matsuri (jp1, 23 streams)
>3437 :: himemoriluna (jp4, 33 streams)
>3387 :: azki (jp0, 4 streams)

**** BOTTOM VSHOJO WOULD FIT HERE ****

>2837 :: reine (id2, 30 streams)
>2741 :: sora (jp0, 17 streams)
>2519 :: melfissa (id2, 19 streams)
>2330 :: choco (jp2, 23 streams)
>2073 :: aki (jp1, 12 streams)
>2004 :: roboco (jp0, 34 streams)
>1797 :: risu (id1, 15 streams)
>1450 :: astel (stars2, 25 streams)
>1409 :: iofi (id1, 15 streams)
>909 :: shien (stars3, 15 streams)
>830 :: roberu (stars2, 39 streams)
>747 :: oga (stars3, 17 streams)
>721 :: izuru (stars1, 15 streams)
>654 :: miyabi (stars1, 20 streams)
>648 :: aruran (stars1, 56 streams)
>412 :: rikka (stars1, 29 streams)
>410 :: temma (stars2, 28 streams)

Also
>I-Iofi...

>>9336638
For the record, here are the medians for the avg CCV for the month of August

>28748 :: ouro (en2, 7 streams)
>22219 :: pekora (jp3, 35 streams)
>21189 :: marine (jp3, 13 streams)
>16957 :: mumei (en2, 4 streams)
>16635 :: ceres (en2, 7 streams)
>15009 :: miko (jp0, 47 streams)
>14846 :: gura (en1, 19 streams)
>12912 :: ayame (jp2, 3 streams)
>12659 :: subaru (jp2, 28 streams)
>11383 :: shion (jp2, 11 streams)
>10822 :: suisei (jp0, 17 streams)
>10812 :: aqua (jp2, 12 streams)
>10657 :: hakos (en2, 8 streams)
>10107 :: rushia (jp3, 22 streams)
>9609 :: inanis (en1, 19 streams)
>8762 :: korone (jpgamers, 26 streams)
>8742 :: mio (jpgamers, 21 streams)
>8569 :: haato (jp1, 36 streams)
>7979 :: sana (en2, 7 streams)
>7797 :: kanata (jp4, 31 streams)
>7753 :: flare (jp3, 32 streams)
>7142 :: amelia (en1, 26 streams)
>6393 :: watame (jp4, 22 streams)
>5904 :: botan (jp5, 28 streams)
>5744 :: okayu (jpgamers, 23 streams)
>5618 :: irys (ensingers, 27 streams)
>5545 :: lamy (jp5, 34 streams)
>5509 :: noel (jp3, 23 streams)
>5469 :: nene (jp5, 17 streams)
>5340 :: calliope (en1, 22 streams)
>4632 :: polka (jp5, 27 streams)
>4484 :: towa (jp4, 30 streams)
>4361 :: kiara (en1, 24 streams)
>4296 :: fubuki (jp1, 61 streams)
>3492 :: mel (jp1, 9 streams)
>3303 :: himemoriluna (jp4, 33 streams)
>2557 :: sora (jp0, 17 streams)
>2346 :: matsuri (jp1, 23 streams)
>2338 :: azki (jp0, 4 streams)
>2050 :: ollie (id2, 27 streams)
>1945 :: roboco (jp0, 34 streams)
>1883 :: moona (id1, 21 streams)
>1746 :: aki (jp1, 12 streams)
>1660 :: choco (jp2, 23 streams)
>1591 :: astel (stars2, 25 streams)
>1356 :: reine (id2, 30 streams)
>1111 :: iofi (id1, 15 streams)
>923 :: risu (id1, 15 streams)
>837 :: melfissa (id2, 19 streams)
>749 :: roberu (stars2, 39 streams)
>678 :: shien (stars3, 15 streams)
>551 :: miyabi (stars1, 20 streams)
>460 :: oga (stars3, 17 streams)
>440 :: izuru (stars1, 15 streams)
>431 :: aruran (stars1, 56 streams)
>295 :: rikka (stars1, 29 streams)
>290 :: temma (stars2, 28 streams)

>>9336603
based senchou not letting a western whores takes the 1st place

>>9336918
your english reps takeshi

>>9336765
>>9336638
PRINCE ASTEL…
>ON BEHALF OF THIS WHOLE THREAD AND THEIR DIRECT DESCENDANTS, I KNEEL!

>>9336638
>anon unironically compares twitch ccv with youtube ccv

>>9337376
Heh. Even WITH the CCV fuckery of YouTube, you can see that HoloEN is still top dog. Without it, they'd completely blow Vshojo out of the water.

>>9337376
Any different caused by Youtube would be in favor of VShojo and would make the point even stronger.
The comparison as it is provides a good ceiling for how high VShojo is right now

>>9336638
>Take Nyanners (pic related), which I assume to be the strongest VShoujo so far. She actually reclined from June to August, from an 8.7k average to a 8.0.
Lets be real, that’s not a significant difference.

Isn’t Ironmouse the strongest VShojo?

kuzuha channel

>>9337056
Make way for the true number princes

>>9337639
at the moment yes, but that's just until Kson, Pokimane and Amonrath join vshojo after the new auditions are dover

>>9336603
>15k play DDLC
Rami.. how?

>>9337705
>Kson, Pokimane and Amonrath
Kek

>>9337699
riinu please come to my house i have a really comfy bed i can buy you anything you want i'll make sure our fridge and pantry always have your favourite foods i'll sub to every streaming service and get every console or game that you could ever wish for please pleasepleas

>>9337639
>Isn’t Ironmouse the strongest VShojo?
>>9337705
>at the moment yes
Not for the month of August, she's not.

>>9337570
>that’s not a significant difference.
700 out of 8700 is a significant drop which almost knocked her out of the top of her company

>>9337705
>Amonrath
Why the fuck would Amouranth take a pay cut and, most important, how steep would be her recline if she was forced NOT to show her face and body on cam

>>9337788
ok fine Mousey's not the strongest at the moment. But 8.0k vs 7.7k, I'd call that a tie.

>>9337788
>700 out of 8700 is a significant drop
No it isn’t. When I often see such small changes in Hololive, I don’t point it out at all. It wouldn’t be significant enough of a drop for me to do so. Even with the much bigger changes there is some degree of pushback when pointed out.

>>9337923
>But 8.0k vs 7.7k, I'd call that a tie.
Then the whole top bracket of VShojo is tied. 7k -> 7.7k -> 8.0k -> 8.7k, it's all in the same range, they would all be led by Nene and lead Polka with those numbers, which is not bad at all but most definitely not "inching towards the top" like some anon said.

>>9336765
EN2's numbers will be lower for September due to no more debut buff.
EN1's numbers will be higher for September due to anniversary buff.
Gura should hit 20k+ median.

>>9338132
Gura won't be having anniversary streams for the whole month. She should stay at the ~15k median ultimately

>>9338132
>Gura should hit 20k+ median.
Raising the median is hard work.
Each stream below the median offsets any stream above it, no matter how close the lower is or how buffed the higher is.

Even with that crazy new outfit buff she "only" managed to have a 19.3 median

About medians: Pekora is a fucking metronome, here is the set of her medians for the duration of Holostats collection

>2020-07: 18318 median (27 streams)
>2020-08: 19494 median (33 streams)
>2020-09: 20461 median (37 streams)
>2020-10: 24508 median (39 streams)
>2020-11: 37611 median (32 streams)
>2020-12: 26058 median (30 streams)
>2021-01: 26083 median (34 streams)
>2021-02: 21797 median (27 streams)
>2021-03: 22763 median (33 streams)
>2021-04: 21764 median (30 streams)
>2021-05: 22170 median (41 streams)
>2021-06: 25393 median (37 streams)
>2021-07: 22700 median (48 streams)
>2021-08: 22219 median (35 streams)

Barring something very special to shake her median up (like the whole PekoMoona / 1M / Pekomom extended arc) she's just churning numbers
>21k, 22k, 21k, 22k, 21k, 22k
like clockwork

>>9338572
Now Marine... she's truly making a move for the crown with her outreach on EOP lands

>2020-07-01: 18799 median (24 streams)
>2020-08-01: 20289 median (26 streams)
>2020-09-01: 19959 median (27 streams)
>2020-10-01: 20284 median (26 streams)
>2020-11-01: 20406 median (19 streams)
>2020-12-01: 14400 median (26 streams)
>2021-01-01: 19983 median (28 streams)
>2021-02-01: 16119 median (20 streams)
>2021-03-01: 16392 median (24 streams)
>2021-04-01: 15492 median (17 streams)
>2021-05-01: 17960 median (16 streams)
>2021-06-01: 19174 median (28 streams)
>2021-07-01: 27109 median (20 streams)
>2021-08-01: 21189 median (13 streams)

>>9338572
This is an interesting look at Pekora and Gura

>>9336765
>Miko
>47 streams
Jesus Miko

>>9338658
This must be the mean average, I'm posting median averages because they're mostly unaffected by outliers.

Here is Miko, for instance. She truly went for the "hours watched" grind and inclined massively but even having some very buffed streams it is not enough to raise her median to Marine or Pekora levels.

Miko
>2020-07-01: 7135 median (15 streams)
>2020-08-01: 9729 median (1 streams)
>2020-09-01: 6145 median (4 streams)
>2020-10-01: 17131 median (14 streams)
>2020-11-01: 18396 median (38 streams)
>2020-12-01: 10768 median (34 streams)
>2021-01-01: 11210 median (33 streams)
>2021-02-01: 9872 median (32 streams)
>2021-03-01: 12975 median (26 streams)
>2021-04-01: 9343 median (29 streams)
>2021-05-01: 10425 median (32 streams)
>2021-06-01: 14375 median (28 streams)
>2021-07-01: 13704 median (35 streams)
>2021-08-01: 15009 median (47 streams)

>>9338770
The list I posted has been stated many, many times, to be the median. Is that a lie?

>>9338743
>47
kek, that's child's play.

Here is Fubuki, which truly added a third shift for the whole August, much to detriment to her median but she clearly enjoys doing it so numberfags can cry in a corner while she has fun

>2020-07: 7283 median (43 streams)
>2020-08: 11300 median (35 streams)
>2020-09: 7002 median (55 streams)
>2020-10: 8133 median (42 streams)
>2020-11: 11913 median (31 streams)
>2020-12: 7506 median (37 streams)
>2021-01: 5998 median (47 streams)
>2021-02: 5839 median (37 streams)
>2021-03: 6177 median (41 streams)
>2021-04: 6979 median (34 streams)
>2021-05: 6345 median (44 streams)
>2021-06: 7134 median (41 streams)
>2021-07: 6945 median (34 streams)
>2021-08: 4296 median (61 streams)

>>9338834
>The list I posted has been stated many, many times, to be the median. Is that a lie?
Maybe the median of the peaks instead of the median of the average CCV then?

>>9338834
if it was mean average instead of median I think the ID2 debut month would be way higher. So median is my guess

>>9338839
Miko had more total hours than Fubuki for August though so Fubuki must have been doing a lot of shorter streams.

>>9338874
I think you got it now

>>9338930
>>9338874
I just checked it, it is the median of the peak CCVs instead of median of the avg CCV. It matches my values to a tiny margin

>>9338942
A lot of Fubuki's streams are short shin-chan streams and watchalongs of shows like Loki and Marvel What if, so they were usually around an hour.

>>9338874
Yea....April was a baaaad month for Gura. She played a bunch of monhun and it was painful to watch her try and use switch axe as a newbie.

>>9338959
Is that dataset available in text or excel format? I can complete it now with the missing months, now that I know how it is calculated

>>9338874
Median of peaks would probably be better to look at anyway. That way you wouldn't penalize chuubas like Miko, Watame, or even Gura who do long superchat readings.

>>9339156
>That way you wouldn't penalize chuubas like Miko, Watame, or even Gura who do long superchat readings.
Not doing so would penalize those who split SC reading from their regular streams in the exact same way.

If I can get my hands on the source for that image >>9338658 I would use the same methodology to fill it up, but for the medians like >>9336765 doing it for the avg is a better reflection of the true size of the continuous audience (instead of just the fraction that massed at the most interesting moment)

>>9338052
>>9336638
This is without youtube fuckery and all the benefits of twitch?
That twitchfag made it seem like they were actually inclining.

>TODAY'S IKIOI
is it me or Jun is reclining hard? Should Pekora call the marriage off?

>>9339051
It wasn't even switch ax, which would've been a pretty easy weapon to learn. She was playing charge blade... one of the most technical weapons in the game and forgot all the moves every stream.
Painful to watch is accurate and the CCV kinda reflects that.

>>9328379
So Lauren is just a little off $40k and already at number 9, and he'll most likely get a huge new wave of supas when (if) he beats the game, this could end up being huge

>>9339389
That's a bday stream rank

>>9339428
Lauren's stream rn is a birthday stream. A Getting over it endurance bday stream.

>>9339229
>I would use the same methodology to fill it up
That would actually be interesting to see, particularly with how things have changed since then.

>>9339470
>A Getting over it endurance bday stream.
kek, that's novelty, sasuga Edengumi!

Here are the top 6 JP streams right now (I removed one non vtuber one), that's a very good amount for a bday and the stream is not even over.
>PREDICTIONS?

I say 60k, stopping short of Kuzuha

>>9339534
> that's a very good amount for a bday and the stream is not even over.
It could very easily double when he beats the game. SC rushes when vtuber finishes games is a tradition (Kanata vs Sans arc for example).

Seeing as Lauren is the current record holder for a monetization stream, getting to Kanae's level is not inconceivable.

Also, it's 4am JST and there's still so many people watching vtubers. JP's vtuber audience size is so much bigger and more flexible than EN's that it's not even fair.

>>9339534
And then there's Tomeru who's been streaming Apex for I think 33 hours now, at least she's getting plenty of rent money.

>Ollie schedule for this week
Ironmouse Talk Show. What kind of numbers she does get on that show?

As for Ollie, I wonder if that will reflect in a new surge in subs

Selen invited to play Apex customs with Emperor Hal on the 16th.

>>9340175
The fact she was not already a fixture baffles me.

>>9340094
I kinda doubt they can give each other too much of a buff

>>9340273
I don't know, lots of people look at "Hololive Indonesia" and assume they speak bahasa indonesian.
The more exposure Ollie gets in the EN side of the divide, the more she expands the reach of HoloID

Ironmouse, conversely, get to check the "collaboration with Hololive" off her checklist, gets some Holo-exclusive eyes over her (she cute, btw) and opens up the possibility for more collabs now that management cleared this one up

>>9340373
You know she already collabed with Mori right?

>>9340373
? Ironmouse already collabed with Mori, that one was much bigger

>>9340477
>>9340508
>Mori
"Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi"
>What is permissible for Jupiter may not be permissible for a bull

As far as I remember even Kiara failed to smooth things up (thanks Veibae, btw, for putting your feet in your mouth and keeping it there) and it took Mori putting her foot down to make the Holo-VShojo collab happen.

>>9340477
>>9340508
>>9340626
As for Ironmouse, also, I was referring to her Talkshow, I assume she didn't have any Holo there yet, did she?

>>9340626
Chronologically, Kiara collabed with Nyanners before the Mori/Mouse collab, although they were both in the same week.

>>9340709
Not sure, I don't watch her normally. The entire thing was just the two of them chatting, no game or anything, but I don't remember a "talkshow" like format, like say Holotalk.

>>9340709
No this is only (I think) the 4th episode
Sykkuno, FalseEyeD and Haruka Karibu been on so far

>>9340725
I remember it going this way
>Kiara gets all excited and says "IT'S HAPPENING"
>Veibae past stuff gets aired, she likely get's blacklisted, IIRC Nyanners goes like "I won't be doing if Veibae isn't"
>everything seems to be going sideways then out of nowhere Calli and Ironmouse collab gets announced
That's my recollection of things and I'm too lazy for archive reps.

>>9340175
Need to clarify it a real quick: did you mean our great and almighty Emperor Hal or Apex pro ImperialHal?

>>9340725
>Kiara collabed with Nyanners before
I remember that Kiara and Nyanners each got 20k live viewers from that collab.

Unison just beat 3M views. The song is very experimental but the illustration is, IMO; the best of any Hololive original.

I've heard in this board that Marine disclosed that she paid something like 6 million yen for the art, of course , out of her pocket (about 50k).
The quality clearly shows and 3M * 0.5CPM = 1500 bucks, not even close of making it back but it was a passion project above all

>>9340966
well yea but ollie is never gonna reach that in her collab

>>9340886
Something went down at Cover HQ, because all of a sudden EN was allowed to collab with Coco, indies, and Vshoujo all at once. Kiara was trying to set up the Vei/Nyanners collab. Ina and Pikamee set up a collab. Mouse kept teasing the Mori one but didn't outright say it for like 2-3 weeks. In the intervening time Vei got exposed and pulled out, Nyanners got cold feet and then came back and agreed to a collab anyway, and Mori/Mouse got officially announced.

>>9341249
Depends when they do it, Ollie can get really good numbers when she does novelty streams. On Mouse side she might get a decent number, Kiara isn't really that much bigger of a draw than Ollie but the novelty of it being the first Holo/Vshoujo collab won't be there. Ollie is probably doing it because Mouse is an easier sell to management than Zenpex which is her true goal.

>>9341142
>on Average the YouTube channel can receive $18 per 1,000 ad views. This equates to $3 - $5 per 1000 video views.
https://influencermarketinghub.com/how-much-do-youtubers-make/
I can't tell if Marine would get more or less than the general average, but it is definitely not 0,5cpm

>>9341142
I think each cover and originals for streaming type like marine (not suisei or wtm type) are a service for the fans

>>9339293
School started, it's over junfags.

>>9341249
It'll be on IronMouse's twitch most likely and she got 18k interviewing an indie much smaller than Ollie last week.
Ollie will probably be 20k+, considering raids and all.

>>9342240
18k was a raid from a different stream
Mousey had 12k on the talkshow with haruka. Her best so far was 15k with skykuno

>>9342347
Thanks, I couldn't check cuz Piyo died.

>>9340094
Has Ironmouse ever exceeded the 24k she had when she collabed with Calliope? I remember that was her all-time peak CCV back when it happened, but I haven't really checked in since then.

>>9341142
Its an original so wouldn't it also get spotify bucks and other download services? Although Unison might not get a ton of views there because I don't think the song itself is great and its totally carried by its god tier music video.

Imagine the views Reflect would get if it had a music video on par with Unison! My numberfag chub is getting erect just thinking about the numbers.

>>9342723
No, saw her at 18k once but that was the closest

>>9341142
>$50k for a 3 minute MV
Damn, if Cover is going for the anime route it better pans out. One wrong move can bankrupt the whole company.

>>9336603
>Unarchived karaoke from the most subscribed Vtuber
>Her fans claim she is a top singer also.
>#2
KEK

>>9343328
Chumbuds on suicide watch

>>9343328
>Acting like 39k for a chill karaoke is somehow bad
Get better bait, faggot

>>9339679
>when he beats the game
He hasn't gotten far at all, there will be no big release SC. Still a respectable amt of money.

>>9343731
funding his mental hospital bill

>>9343731
Jfc he's at the plastic slide part after 10 hours... It's gonna be 2 streams for sure then so ya, it'll be split up.

Gura and Mumei will play Minecraft at the same time slot today also IRyS will play Titanfall 2 same time as Sana Celeste, numbers prediction?

>>9343564
>getting worse views than Marine listening to Kanata talk about diarrhea for an hour

>>9343984
21k 15k
8k 5k

>>9343984
First minecraft streams usually get a pretty good audience. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like a 20k/20k split between the Owl and Shark.

>>9344188
WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT

>Kanata literally banging Marine butt for the sound effect and then gropping her boobs UNIRONICALLY in a hot off collab fueling every your men dreams
>Gura singing chill songs

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE NO ONE!

>HATERS WILL TRY TO DENY THIS!

>>9340909
great and almighty Hal invited her.

>>9343731
Pfffffff hahahahahah, Haachama made a
>clearing Getting Over It in one hour
challenge, cleared it in half an hour and went for a “clearing twice in a hour”, which she failed for the lulz

>>9340175
Awesome!!

It was a long time ago that she was at pred level and she isn't even close to that today. Can't wait to see her get exposed and kill what small fan base she has once her facade of being a great Apex player is crushed.

>smells like mischief
I would like to dispel the myth that Gura doesn’t know what she’s doing. SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE’S DOING!

>>9344517
There's a Niji, Kaida Haru, who's beating the game every day for 50 days, so far it looks like under 15 min every time.
https://youtu.be/7a69bTzG4cE
I don't get Japan's obsession with the game, everyone else has moved on.

>>9344655
you okay bro?

>>9344655
Anon, Hal invited her. The first EN to be invited in fact.

>>9344682
>everyone else has moved on.
Japan has moved on as well, it’s just a handful of stragglers

>>9344716
Well, it would be either her or Amelia and I can smell the salt and the toxic fumes all the way from <insert random slav country> if Amelia would be it

>>9344803
it's funny how people keep bringing up Amelia in competitive gaming contexts

>>9344803
Ame is much better at apex than this 2-view Nijishitter

>Sora mini 3D live with AZKi, Suisei and Watame
PREDICTIONS?

Also, Watame must be in the fucking moon for being picked to be even in the close proximity of these three, easily the three most professional in the whole JP field with regards to music production

>>9344875
>it's funny how people keep bringing up Amelia in competitive gaming contexts
The only reason (with regards to EN) is that she’s the only one that have even a passing interest in playing it seriously.

>>9344895
kek, stop false flagging, salty NijiKun

>>9344948
Maybe you haven't seen Ame's serious gameplay yet so you don't know her true skill

>>9344675
Collab ban doko?

>>9344895
NO selen is the BEST apex player better than amelia and also better than
>kuzuha channel
>shibuya hal
>the whole population of south korea
and EVEN better than
>ME, who reached diamond I once with my buddies
NO ONE can beat her NO ONE!!!!!!

>>9345064
It’s not a ban breach if they don’t interact

>>9345103
Watch this and tell me Ame's not cracked at apex.
https://youtu.be/2ruTV0YcuKk
You're underestimating her if you think she's not better than some niji

>>9345213
This, interestingly, was the clip that introduced me to Ame. I fell in love with her saltiness and toxicity right then and there, she would be at home in this thread with all the salt going around

>>9345213
selen is not only the BEST apex player she is also the ONLY one that makes apex INTERESTING there has NEVER been ANY other apex stream IN HISTORY that has been interesting EXCEPT SELEN'S not ame not shibuhal not kuzuha not anyone in vspo not any 3dpd facecam/faceless streamer ONLY SELEN

>>9345213
Clips of the moments of success, don’t form an entire opinion.

>>9343218
I mean that's a long and cherished tradition among animation studios. They pay their animators shit partially because they are always flirting with bankruptcy. Animation is expensive as hell.

>>9345301
Shut up cuck

>>9345301
You type like a faggot.

>>9345213
>open video
>the guys aren't even shooting back
Ok

>>9345335
>>9345347
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KEEP SEETHING PFFBHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9345348
>the guys aren't even shooting back
I noticed that it wasn’t impressive particularly because it’s being used as a clip to show her higher moments, and so I’m not sure how low the bar is being set for Ame here. But it’s pretty low.

>>9344895
She isn't, haha. Hell, IRyS is arguably better than Ame. Amelia has pinpoint aim and is naturally good at shooters but she doesn't play enough to nail down the mechanics and meta of the game. Her great aim can only take you so far.

>people falling for “pro Ame” falseflags
>people falling for “anti Selen” falseflags
MATCH RESULT: that one (1) false flagged wins!

>>9345301
Based

>>9345536
I actually think people are blinded by their love for certain streamers.

>>9345536
this is like the easier thread on the board to get (You)s especially if you know who to post about there will always be at least one

>>9345579
It’s more like what >>9345582 said. There are anons that will take even the SLIGHTEST comment praising the ones they perceive as unworthy or criticizing the ones they perceive as above reproach as something terribly personal.

>>9345638
But just don’t assume it’s bait every time someone makes a stupid statement, unless you think high intelligence is common here. That’s my only point.

>>9345579
>>9345825
In this particular thread, the bait is so painfully obvious.

>>9345536
>people falling for "but Kuzuha"

>>9344716
No she isn't.

>>9345825
well yeah but there's a difference between someone being legitimately stupid and super obvious trolls like haru/kuzuha kneelposters or the 'GURA KILLER' posts.

aaand thread went to shit. Would be interesting to see if Selen would get an incline in that Hal tourney tho

>>9345931
Even if I tried to parody them, I think it would still be hard to tell the difference between a serious comment and one that isn’t. Poe's law comes to mind. I think that speaks more to the true nature of this place.

>>9345825
>But just don’t assume it’s bait
It’s always bait. When it’s not bait, IT’S EVEN STRONGER AND MORE ADVANCED BAIT

>>9345995
if i worded it properly and cherry picked good enough screenshots on ms paint i could say 'kuzuha channel is getting bigger than xQc' and some people would reply thinking i'm posting in good faith. kuzuha is incredible with how easy he attracts replies from people who don't watch him and never will, actual 0 jpy tenant.

>>9346123
I just think it’s often motivated by a desire to promote their favorites and shit on the ones they dislike, more than getting the replies from it.

>>9346127
Because who the fuck watches him other than the anons who want to fuck him, no one has context on his content other than google translating the titles of his streams or grabbing posts from the Nijihomo thredd.

>>9346289
if you're so far removed from his content then why the fuck let him or random trolls using him for their shitposts occupy any space in your mind? plus the people on this board who do watch him won't be the ones spamming KNEEL in this thread anyway. there is 0 point in entertaining those anons and yet people consistently do.

>>9346433
Asking anons to not give (You)s to shitposts and bait is like asking /vt/ to watch streams, they won't do it.

>watched a little bit of ClockGirl SC reading
Best voice, best design and best rig, easily.
I had to turn it off, she was almost sucking money out of my wallet just by being there.
Thank God SC wasn’t active

>>9344682
>beating the game every day for 50 days
>under 15 min
That's weird. I distinctly remember Pekora was beating the game in under 10 minutes or so at one point, without even playing it that much, and Pekora is usually garbage at videogames.
Is every other chuuba who attempred a speedrun even more garbage then her, or is this her crowning achievement in the realm of vidya?

Korean clip of Gura singing Galaxy up to 75K views in less than 24 hours. Aside from the animated clips not sure if anything else comes close? If there's one thing Koreans love, it's Americans appreciating Korean cultural products. Her pronunciation was excellent too. Wonder if Cover actually has a strategy or if this is all Brownian motion and they are walking over Niji basically by accident?

Lauren fell all the way down to the start and gave up so no clear omedetou SCs today, final total $41k which could still go up, very impressive even if it could've been even higher

>>9347683
i know clicking videos is hard

>>9347683
Pekkers did it in 10 min, and Kaida did it in 8 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPODicuM8Dk . There's a numberfag chart for Hololive Getting over it clears https://i.imgur.com/pyn2rwQ.jpg

>>9347683
Some random youtube comment said it's 10 min 37 s

>253 watching Izuru playing Apex
>284 watching Tomeru sleeping

>>9347975
>i know clicking videos is hard
Sorry for assuming the anon reporting how good the chuuba's times were did not in fact report his best times, I guess?

>>9348062
>>9348163
Thanks for the correction. Nice chart btw.

>>9348062
Chart is great but very out of date, Watame beat it nearly a year ago and I'm sure others did too

Green lamy cleared 10k again. Aside from her SC stream yesterday, she hasn't dipped less than 10k. Green lamy strong.

>>9349779
No wonder she crossed 10k this time, because it's her ASMR.
But there's one thing that worries - looks like her ASMR viewers are declining with each stream. Looks like she will struggle to reach 10k with her ASMR next time. Heck, I think that she would not reach it today if Kronii wouldn't finish her stream.

>>9343984
Really curious how Gura vs Mumei will go, last time they overlapped Mumei managed to match then pass Gura for a bit.

>>9350085
ASMR generates more VOD views though so that might be what she's aiming for

>>9350356
I expect a Mumei decline

>>9350398
Maybe she does. But most likely it's just a debut buff still wearing out.

>>9350568
That applies to streams, not rewatchable content like ASMR

>>9345485
I hope the EN 2 try out some FPS games, since as ive been saying they feel like more skilled overall than EN 1 in games. Fauna is an ex-Dota 2 player so there's a chance she's delved into the likes of CSGO while Kronii has also mentioned she played RE 8 for a bit, haven't heard much on the others yet if they might have hidden depths in skill.

https://panora.tokyo/archives/33110
Weekly VOD numbers.

>>9350085
asmr live numbers dont matter too much, the get several times over the views in the vod. See Noel's for example, or bluelamy

>>9350633
I have no proof against or for your argument, so I won't comment on that.

>>9341388
Didn't the Mori/Mouse collab only get like 15k viewers? Ollie won't beat that.

>>9350835
Kneel to the King. No, not that one.

>>9351033
But can you prove that decrease in live numbers wouldn't also mean decrease in vod?
Vod will still be many times more than live, but it's pretty logical that if some people lose interest (decrease in live), they won't watch vods too.

>>9351160
20ksomething

>>9351215
People who like ASMR don't give a shit if it's live or not.

>>9350633
A decline in live viewers is something to watch for. Simply saying ASMR can get replayed, is a different point.

>>9346741
Huh did something yab happen in her stream? I can't find it

>>9351334
That can be said about any vtuber content, not just asmr. Asmr gets more vod views only because people tend to rewatch it.

Well Gura's waiting stream has a few more than Mumei's so far.

>>9351614
The difference will be bigger 30 minutes before the start when YouTube starts to send notifications for the subscribers

>>9351798
There's a members stream going on for Gura right now. The number of people is gonna jump a bit once that ends.

Why aren't seiyuu getting into the vtuber trend? Surely making thousands every day beats having to audition for Schoolgirl C/working part time to pay your bills.

>>9352035
they are

>>9351614
People tend to overestimate the Owl

>>9352092
>overestimate the Owl
Huh? If anything, the owl has been underestimated most of the time, even right now you have people wondering how she's the 2nd highest EN 2.

Ah Fauna just suddenly set up another superchat reading stream at the same time, probably wont get good numbers but she might end up taking a few that were going to watch Mumei.

>>9352184
The expectation of her maintaining it, is the overestimation.

It's been roughly 3:4 for a while

>>9352035
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbPVSXP89cDlsiMf0jet1zQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBz3ZLAMLt9h_XKsd8rVTAg

>>9350645
After seeing the stream sniping from Amelia's csgo i doubt any of them will play it and it won't bring you number anyway unless you participating in a tournament and or collab with someone famous at least for vtuber

>>9353659
I just meant that perhaps Fauna's got the FPS skills better than Ame since she's touched Dota 2 while Ame seems to have only done the baby MOBAs.

>>9351160
22-23k

EN numbers (for now)

>>9354798
>Around 15 minutes in
>Gura only 15k with minecraft
So EN2 debut buff is also wearing off Gura?

>>9354934
Dunno. I’ll be posting another one later too.

>>9354934
Bitch please, Gura tends to take 45-55 minutes to hit her peaks with minecraft, as do many other holomems.
She's still climbing and is almost 17k rn

Numbers

>>9355000
Yeah, anon jumped the gun and took the screenshot when Gura just started. At least wait until she pulls pranks on Mumei.

>>9355134
Pomu lost about 1/3rd of her viewers to the 8:00 PM Holo MC streams. She's probably the Niji EN most vulnerable to streaming against Hololive.

>>9355134
>4 watching
UOOOOOOOHHH I'M GONNA SAAAAAAAAAAAAVE

>>9354934
retard.

>>9355501
Pomu probably has the most overlap of Holoviewers. Everyone else has their own distinct fans and niches - Pomu is basically idolfag lite

Kiara just joined the MC server offstream.

>>9355668
Still not hitting her usual 30k chumpedo
And the debuff chikim is there

that's a lot of minecraft audience for EN

>>9355852
Gura got 35k a few weeks ago

>>9356169
On the JP server, where she gets a lot of JP views. That's why i said "for EN".

>>9356169
We haven't seen this many viewers for EN minecraft simultaneously since the Ender dragon collab, and this isn't even a collab.

>>9355134
what site is this?

>>9355674
Probably cause a number of people decided to watch Pomu cause they were begging in the holo threads.

HoloEN numbers (update)

>>9355852
>>9355134
Here's NijiEN for comparison

>>9356663
NijiEN males dominating...

Right now
Gura - 21k
Munmei - 15k
Lamy - 5.5k also Minecraft jp
Fauna - 1.3k SC reading

>>9356663
Jesus for as much as that elf faggot shows up in Niji clips it seems no one watches him.

>>9356227
>english comments on chat

Today's superchats

>>9356755
I know right, who would want to watch a stream that's been running for 6 days straight, replaying his math teaching vods at 12FPS, he needs to get better content

>>9356663
so all nijien combined cant beat a mid tier nijimale pulling an all-nighter
they should stop expanding and put this branch on life support if next two waves do not break through 3k median

>>9356749
Fauna getting less viewers than Kiara Superchat reading

>>9356940
Lazy whore even beat Rushia?

Goora and Mumei finally met and both jumped 2k, 23 and 17.

>>9356634
Fauna...

>>9356992
Not until they get at least 10 waves.

>>9357033
Kiara doesn't usually read superchats at 8 PM EST against 2 people playing Minecraft, she does it when no one else that speaks English except maybe some random ID is streaming, or maybe Ina if she really runs over on time.

>>9356430
I thought that was Finana

>>9356940
what the fuck happened to Lauren again?

>>9356940
birthday of kurusu natsume, nijisanji's main GFE vtuber.
4k

haha. sad.

>>9356992
They have a bunch of Indogs and Koreans that haven't even broken 10k subs, what makes you think they will stop when the ENs are getting 100k+ subs and 800-1k views?

>>9357212
Stop thinking about GFE and start thinking about BFE.

>>9357207
Birthday + endurance stream
People are probably waiting for him to finish the game before spamming SC, but he's taking more than 12 hours so it'll be split into 2 streams.

>>9357207
It's his birthday

>>9357280
Hey, where's the "forcefully acquired" schizo, I bet he has some things to say about this.
But yea, NijiEN gals not doing so hot going up against HoloEN, and the stream choices...oof.

>>9356992
>they should stop expanding and put this branch on life support if next two waves do not break through 3k median
Kek.
The thing is, by industry standards, NijiEN is doing completely fine for an overseas branch and considered a success already.
It just goes to show how overwhelmingly dominant HoloEN is that it can be comparable to the main branch.

>>9356959
Cope

Face it, nobody wants to watch your dumb elf WHORE

>>9357533
I don't get why people keep comparing the two, NijiEN is never going to be as big as HoloEN. Ever. They're still doing far better than other EN chuubas on Youtube but HoloEN is an unreachable goal.

>>9357424
>>9357470
new nijiJP gen is insanely good, were they popular before niji?

>>9357280
they didnt buy two millions of views for id and kr though. is EN really worth so much investment? they should start shitting out wave a month without much promotion and hope one of the recruits somehow goes viral.

>>9357201
Fauna’s stream times seem to have had less competition in general, at least when compared to some others.

>>9357723
Everyone except for Lauren were literal whos. Lauren also did not have a large fanbase, he was just your average esports org guy who mostly did Overwatch

So the owl and the shark share viewers base?
Gura CCV grow is extremely slow compared to other times.

>>9357637
>dumb elf WHORE
who are you talking about? isnt pomu fey?

>>9357677
And that's the sad part. For Niji to be as dominant as they are in their home country and not translate it overseas. They had a head start vs Holo, they had a boost by Pewdiepie and the early Vtuber boom, but they did nothing with it. They could have easily captured the overseas audience once they saw how Vtubing boomed in the West but they had to wait for Hololive to take the first step.

>>9357723
Either complete newbies, 2views indies, or ex-FPS pros

>>9357723
4 nonames and one 100view

>>9357637
The brown male elf WHORE

>>9357677
Because Nijisanji is #1 in Japan. Its a Coke vs Pepsi scenario between Hololive and Nijisanji. The fact they're being curb stomped internationally should be embarrassing.
Nijisanji had as much a chance as Hololive to dominate the international scene early on and they let it go.

>>9357908
I doubt it, they would have arrived with a thud if they debuted September 2020. Niji never had much presence on youtube other than Hana Macchia clips of all things. People would have just kept asking "when will Hololive open a branch???" while ignoring them.

>>9356940
>Axia
I was just thinking yesterday when Lain was on the chart that he was due next, all of Eden-gumi is doing really well on superchats

>>9358112
Formerly #1

>>9357847
Her core audience is US Primetime and SEA kiddies. She usually streams at 7 JST, meaning the SEAkiddies are only just waking up. Her reaching her peaks 1-2 hours in isn't necessarily "slow", that's really just when her core audience finally tunes in

It's been an hour and Gura is still inclining.

Towers still getting a good amount of foreign SCs, there were ₩ and € too.

Anyone have the SC per region breakdown for August?

I imagine its a bit intimidating for newer Hololive members to approach Gura. Her explosive numbers give her an almost celebrity aura. You even saw it on the JP server where everybody was standing around her until based Elite Miko finally stepped up and talked to her.

>>9358161
I'd argue they were on equal footing up until during Mar-Apr 2020 when people were beginning to branch out from Holo. But as Holo decided to capitalize on the EOP pandering and thr HoloEN announcement sealed the deal. Niji at that time were focusing too much on making IN not fail

How are we feeling about the collab?

>>9358571
If you just focus on the top tier of both Nijisanji absolutely contends with Hololive and sometimes surpasses them. It's the mid and lower tiers where Hololive truly pulls ahead. Hololive's mid and low tier perform so much better than Nijisanji's.

>>9358790
retardkino, but wrong thread.
Numbers-wise, amazing.
25k + 17k is good even for HoloJP MC collab standards.

>>9358508
If only there was more time

>>9357725
>is EN really worth so much investment?
they
>started new branch
>hired staff, management etc
>2 og songs (not cheap)
>advertisements (at least on youtube)
and this just stuff on a surface.
new gens will be obviously cheaper since they dont need to establish infrastructure

>>9358790
Gura/Mumei?

Pretty Kino. For the first time ever the EN server feels a bit like the JP server with the sudden collab. This can only be a good sign for EN if the new generation is going to bring this kind of life to Hololive's signature game.

>>9358974
What are the chances that future waves don't get the same red carpet treatment that waves 1 and 2 got?
Also whatever happened to that comic series (?) NijiEN were supposed to get.

>>9357847
>So the owl and the shark share viewers base?
not really to be honest. 24k for Gura's MC stream (on EN server) is just normal. owl at the same time has 16k wich is amazing

>>9359154
Around 18.6k people who wouldn't be watching Hololive otherwise.

>>9358814
You're right for most of the comment, except for the "top tiers of both companies" part imo because the only Nijis that can reliably reach 20k is Kuzuha, Ib (with MC) and Kenmochi. I consider Fuwa, Ib (non-MC), Yashiro and Kanae to be in the Niji top tier as well, but they cannot get 15k on a regular basis. On the other hand, there's almost a dozen Holos who get 15-20k nightly.

>>9359154
Gura bled hard the last time Mumei overlapped her

>>9359567
What was she playing?

>>9357908
>that's the sad part.
not in a slightest. this is their own fault. this shit was discussed numerous times here.
niji was unfriendly to EOPs and didn't care about west because they had their success in JP.
holo on the other hand was desperate for viewers to the point they must to pander to west and be greatfull for EOP's support.

>>9359106
high chance because the pandemic is over in the west and people are going back to their normal lives.

>>9358112
Nijisanji was never #1 outside of Japan though.

>>9359832
>pandemic is over in the west
The ride never ends, when will you people learn?

>>9359106
>What are the chances that future waves don't get the same red carpet treatment?
i didnt read their financial report. im sure they already have plan for gen 3 and males, But after that they will adjust to resaults

>>9359679
Most Nijis do very poorly aside from a small handful at the top. The company as a whole could have greatly benefitted from an influx of viewers, especially the overseas branches. Could they have done it? I still doubt that, but to say they didn't need the viewers when most Niji still can't make a full time living off streaming is misunderstanding the situation.

>>9359567
>last time Mumei overlapped her
debut buff, ppl wanted to watch new girls

>>9359106
I think wave 3 and 4 will get the same treatment. Wave 3 because they can't let what momentum die they have die before wave 4 debuts, and wave 4 because they have to shoot their shot with males and try to replicate what they have going on with their JP side. If wave 3 only does as good as the first 2 and the males completely fall on their face they might rethink their strategy.

>>9359679
If that is true then they wouldn't have branched out with a Chinese, Indo, Korean, Indian and then recently an EN branch, wouldn't they? The fact of the matter is they missed their shot because they were focused somewhere else.

Lain does pretty well for a female Niji usually, but man, people must really not like seeing her play Apex.

If Ceres stops before Mumei or Gura she will take Kiara's record of worst stream performance in HoloEN's history

>Kiara
>Average 1,461 / peak 1,795

>>9360300
She was joking about being pretty good and is, you guessed it, average, so Apexschizos show up just to leave a dislike

>>9359988
this is just niji economic model. they throw new cheap gens at the wall and dont do much to support them.

>>9360190
They had two failed Chinese expansions, their current one has 10+ waves and most of those are floundering. The only real success is virtuareal star which is run by bilibili and consists of people who were already big (imagine Cover signing Senzawa without changing the name or avatar).
IN was a complete failure.
ID is doing well with mostly Hana carrying the branch.
KR is doing bad with only those pandering to the Japanese doing decent.
>>9360376
Wasn't Kiara's record from when her whole channel was shadowbanned?

>>9360300
>>9360440
She dipped below 800 viewers even
Average numbers: 2,463

>>9360376
>guerilla dropped an SC reading in the middle of a big MC not-a-collab
bitch deserved it

>>9357908
>first to pander to EOPs (hana, roa, ars, lulu, rin pewdiepie)
>Hololive dominates it
>first ID branch created in late 2019
>holoID and maha5 dominates it
>first KR branch created in early 2020
>holo dominates it without a domestic branch

>>9360533
I don't remember when she got shadowbanned

https://youtu.be/YcQxNB-TXiM

>>9360190
i m talking about main JP branch and their streamers.
as example, just few weeks ago last liveT was bullied from Kuzuha's wife chat.

>>9360765 (me)

>>9360780
No one gives a shit about Rindou or her failed unit

how's Niji's Hololive gen 5 equivalent doing?

>>9360890
What, the new JP wave? Mentioned in this thread, they are doing far better than the last 2 waves that fell off right after a month. Debut buff is definitely petering out. Lauren is the strongest in SC but not in views.

>>9361000
I think he meant the Selejo gen. Edengumi is 2021 gen and gen6 equivalent (if that happens)

Mumei's views shoot up to 18k when her service animal starts going nuts in the background, lol.

>>9361233
service animal? wait shes disabled? the rrat is wrong?

Jun being sandwiched

>>9361316
ofc its wrong Mumei is clearly retarded.

>>9360890
Slejou?
Pretty poorly, despite showing some promise in time, they never really shaked the really weak start.
But they also really debuff themselves, apart from Ngo, who should be way bigger.
Chigusa - plays Apex 4+ to 900 viewers
Hisui - hated by female fans
Kohaku - multiple multi month breaks
Akane - poor streamer performance, good singer
Sango - took too long to get noticed - and it was on NND instead of YT, twitter, or even TikTok

Ain't gonna lie, 45k CCV between the both of them is pretty fucking amazing.

>>9361317
>10 hours

>>9361448
missed something
>Chigusa - plays Apex 4+ hours, to 900 viewers
She really is Matsuri's comrade

40+k ppl watching holoen right now.

more like 45k

>>9361636
>>9361775
you know people can just watch 2 streams at once right

>>9361775
Minecraft anime arcs is what nijien lacks.

>>9361957
Not with how youtube counts viewers

Mumei and Gura got a 4k jump each in last 20 minutes without any logic (at least for me)

Elira started playing her buff game.

>>9361376
damn I havent up to date bout all this vt rrats
>>9361775
multiscreen is possible PC and ipad/mobile/tv so its probably around 38k-40k unique views

>>9361957
they can, but they only count as live viewer for one of them

>>9362033
Genshin isn't a buff game for anyone who plays it regularly except for Lize.
The buff Elira will get for this stream is the gacha buff from rolling for Raiden.

Gura just jumped to the JP server.

>>9362314
Will she meet Lamy too?

2 fateful encounters In 1 night?

>>9362497
First thing she did was kiss her in chat.

>>9362497
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/OvTBkUJ_nIY

Nice 2k boost just from wondering WTF is going on with Gura randomly logging in. Gura lost 2k viewers too so >>9362048 kinda checks out.

>the gura buff

>>9362606
Lamy jumped to 7.5k as soon as Gura logged out, now down to 6.7k and stabilizing.
Looks like some decided to stay with Lamy.

>>9362732
I’m amazed she retained the audience

>b-but he doesn't have a billion subs.

>>9361775
This is what makes Minecraft a big buff for Holo, the interaction between members. EN server is now more lively thanks to new members so it should boost their numbers for Minecraft for a while.

>>9363251
Fuck Lauren. He's gonna have a double payday once he finishes the game. That game isn't that hard anyway, he's playing it for the money. Think Kanata with Jump King and Undertale, but even worse.

>>9363251
Goes to show there is no relation between subs count and SC, doesn’t it?

>>9363387
Rushia also shits on every EN, so yes

>>9363387
The fujos/yumejo all need someone they could blow their money into like the males with Rushia. This guy entertains them.

Fauna got to finish reading all the SC after Gura ended and got to 1,654 - Maximum Viewers
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/XaN_gNbT6Xo
She did not have SC enabled for this stream.

>>9363251
This can't be all women, right? They don't even SC this much for Chronoir (the channel not the individual youtubes)

>>9363319
I want to see numbers where they all play minecraft at the same time. It be like 80k+ no doubt.

>>9363387
>Goes to show there is no relation between subs count and SC, doesn’t it?
Kiara is top 8 holo mem in term of SCs

>>9363780
He has universal appeal, good at Apex/FPS and a nice voice.

>>9363620
i thought he is s FPS player, not BFE?

>>9363780
Niji fans dare to denied that most of them now are gays and fujos (lmao).

>>9364075
After hearing Kenmochi's girl to guy ratio being nearly 50:50 I'm starting to think Lauren has a lot of girl fans too.

Holly fuck towa got 6k playing apex.

>>9364386
She had about 5k, but then
>Gura ended stream
>Fauna ended stream
>Lamy ended stream
It's still pretty early, people had to go somewhere.

>>9364185
>there's 10k girls watching him on average per stream
Imagine the smell

>>9360376
>>9363628
Fauna saved Kiara

>>9364386
what is going on with this stream?
>almost 2h in
>keeps grow
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jdBF6uiFoTc

>>9364513
Munei started reading SC

>>9364565
wasnt Kiara's stream shadowbanned?>>9364550
>Imagine the smell

>>9364550
>Imagine the smell
fish market

>>9364565
wasnt Kiara's stream shadowbanned?

>>9364550
I wonder, would it smell better than 10k boys or not?

>>9364751
No, she got shadowbanned in February, this stream was in July

Irys is doing pools to know what is more popular among her members. Today's choice is Titanfall 2.

IRyS well on her way to her usual 6k. Its kind of crazy how consistent she is no matter what she does aside from Minecraft or Singing which give her a bit of a boost.

I do wonder why her music seems to be under performing though. She is a great singer and HoloEN music in general performs crazy well (every single song they have put out is over 1 million views) aside from IRyS' stuff.

>>9366200
Its why shes streaming so much.... build a viewerbase to push the music. She started with the music before building any kind of fanbase. Its probably why AZKi doesnt get the views.

Also Covers marketing sucks, her latest "video" is for a song that came out on her EP two months ago and people who listen to her have already heard plenty, its not really new.

>>9366351
>her latest "video"
+ MV is pretty pathetic quality wise. especially comparing to Calli and Kiara

>>9366351
Yeah, its the same reason why Mori's last two songs, while still performing very well, aren't on the usual torrid pace that you expect a Mori song to be on. They are songs that have been out for months and people have already heard them.

>>9366351
Yeah, AZKi songs always surprise me. You talk to any Hololive fan and they will always sing the praises of how good a singer AZKi is and how she is one of the best in Hololive, yet her songs get shitty views. Same for Sora actually although Sora performs a bit better than AZKi.

>>9366200
>Singing
>bit of a boost.
her karaokes get stable 12k+
>Its kind of crazy how consistent she is no matter what she does
this was already discussed several times.
Ina and Irys are rimal examples of how important to consistently stream during 1 particular time slot.
keep doing this and people will gather eventually

>>9366606
Sora is in a unique situation since Cover doesn’t own her music, the record company she is signed to does.
This means Cover can’t really use or market her music without their permission.

>>9366808
Until recently, there wasn't too much competition in their timeslots, which makes it easier to acquire consistent CCV. When there's overlap with a popular hololive member, they both suffer

>>9366606
thats why media presence is so fucking important
just compare Azki and Suisei.
to be "just good singer" in JP you should be on level of Ado

>>9366940
you can't escape overlapping in hololive, but consistency help A LOT, just take a look at new gen 2 (Rat and Sana will be the best examples).
if they are too "green" for you Kiara who jumped a lot in the past would be great counterexample

why Kronii's SC reading stream was privated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG8ehOJxeL0
there is nothing on twitter
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/with_replies

>>9367470
Here >>9351332

>>9367619
Ah fuck, manager should've screened that, what an ass.

>>9364386
That's her average when she isn't in tourney scrims. Very normal, would have got more if it wasn't a guerrilla I think.
She said she was taking a days off and then gave 20 mins notice and started streaming.

Sana will havefirst (emotes) drawing stream this week
https://twitter.com/tsukumosana/status/1434703261844443138/photo/1

So, who possesses more heterosexual people between niji and holo?

>>9369337
This is a weird thing to numberfag about, but just basing on how many talents Niji has it should be them even if you doubt every single Holo as being actually straight.

>>9369523
Nah, I meant the fanbase. I just wondered about it while driving. It was about this >>936410. Hololive possess a male-dominant fanbase, they are likely to be hetero peeps since they are more adamant into seeing themselves ship with one of the holos. I don't know much about the niji fanbase though. I only heard about TomoexSukoya ship that lesbians like. They're not the same madeup relationships as okakoro, noefure or takamori, people say they are a real couple irl.

>>9336603
>most tryhard content numberwise
>still loses vs someone with half her amount of subs
ohnonono

Nene is still the queen of holo apex. All hail the queen!

>>9370659
imaging Botan's apex stream

>>9370027
Nijicope...your king...

>>9371697
she streamed it once, with nene, but she hates apex and will never go back to it.

>>9370027
Do nijiniggers really?
Marine was doing a special project collab with Kanata
You should more care about your falling "king" that can't top 3 without being in tournaments

>>9370027
Oh nyoooooo~~~
Still mog your tournament king

>>9370027
>Marine,Gura,Peko three all mog Kuzu

>>9370027
Oh nyooo~
Good way to distract attention away from your favorite male vtuber

>>9372454
>>9372683
>>9372790
Samefag

>>9373187
Not really
only first two are mine

>>9372164
>she hates apex
are you 100% sure about it?
i know her story about grinding Master/Pred before debut, but i the only reason Botan mentioned is
>"i hate cheaters and i dont want to show games i like(!) in a bad light"

>>9368676
>Cover
>doing anything for a talent

top kek

>>9373823
sorry we are to busy by monitoring our talent's streams

numberbros, will youtube count my views if i will open 2 different streams in the same time?