/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

I'm glad the most beautiful angel I've ever seen is doing so well

>>9323371
Who?

>>9323399
amelia watson

>>9323399

TMT

Simping is a mental illness.

home sweet home

>>9323336
>september 9th

>35k views already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAejq5oPZY8

>>9323461
We time travelling now

>>9323461
kek, I almost paid my rent in advance because the anon bungled his sixes and nines

>>9323472
NijiKR...

>HoloShop opening officially
Slowly but surely they’re catching up with the best practices many of their peers already practice.

I wonder if they’ll get smart and keep inventory stateside, or even production of some items

>Holostats is back on track
YAY!

>>9324373
Oh thank goodness, I was a little worried we'd be losing ANOTHER one of our tools so soon.
Holostats has been pretty consistent with getting their shit fixed, but y'know...

Pekora/Botan/Towa PAyday collab part 2
21 JST
predictions?

>>9324801
Here is the first
>pic related

I say, based on how fun the first one was, that all three beat the previous numbers

>Pekora: 32k+
>Botan: 20k+
>Towa: 10k+

>>9323472
The Gookslings never stood a chance...

>The day so far
According to https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-09-06 at least, which does not include HoloEN2 because reason, I don't know.

>>9325028
+new costume buff
i glad Pekora gave this collab 2nd chance. for this rabbit numberfag it means a lot.
off topic, but i checked pekora's POV and she didnt wear prisoner costume. what a shame.

>>9323472
Another one in the bag.

>>9325131
>+new costume buff
There is no such thing.

Alright while there's nothing big happening yet, lets talk about the "debut buff". How long does it generally last? Cause I feel like 2 weeks would be enough for viewers to judge if they are gonna be core watchers or they aren't interested in keeping up. Or are there still gonna be people just keeping an eye out for a bit longer to see if the streamer does some interesting games/content? Kinda curious on what kind of timeframe is best for people to show their best to maximize how many will stick for them.

>>9325101
Nijisanjifags EXPLAIN!

Yeah, Matsuri is most definitely in trouble. And it is not even about these numbers, which are bad enough on their own.

Matsuri is in trouble because she completely took the eyes off the goal, which in her case should be to entertain her audience, and went in a complete hedonistic direction of only doing what pleases her.
Think about this collab: it worked for Towa because
1) her audience truly enjoys her APEX streams
2) one of the guests in question is a true blue card carrying Kenzoku that reached out to her to make this collab happen

Matsuri? She probably just wanted to play APEX with some big names regardless of what her audience wanted.

I get not caring about numbers, all of her genmates operate like that.
Except that, instead of being like Fubuki and doing her own thing for entertainment reasons, or being like Haachama and doing whatever TO BE ENTERTAINED BY HAATON, Matsuri went the Aki Rose path of doing things not even her own adoring audience wants to see.

>>9325101
>Shibuya Hal PAD
Is he on his period?

>>9325218
>"debut buff". How long does it generally last?
hard to tell since after debute buff you will get "honeymoon" faze. we will get "real" numbers only after 2-3 month

>>9325311
>true blue card carrying Kenzoku
He watched her clips for a week

>>9325376
Phase

>>9325311
Damn, even apex tourist stay away from her...

>>9325376
>"honeymoon" phase
How much of that phase though is them just gradually gaining new viewers from subs while some started to drop out or just show up for specific streams that interest them?

>>9325381
The mysteries of the rabbit hole

>>9325311
Matsuri literally gives money to other male vtubers and twitcast streamers, the sc money she gets goes to them, her fans are unironically cucks. The reason why she doesn't get a buff like Towa did, is because Matsuri doesn't have the Hololive fans (hako oshi) pushing her anymore, and I really don't blame them.

>>9325311
>Matsuri
>went in a complete hedonistic direction
she is just niji chuba in holo company. ofc she looks out of place.
>it worked for Towa
1.JP clips about pro who likes Towa hyped this stream a lot
2.novelty (1st rpr stream with chuba)
3.Towa s got one of the bigest (percentage wise) EOP audience. things like this make them intrested + both of them made an actual effort to communicate with one another. EOP love "cute JP girl talks in broken EN" thing

on the other hand Matsuri's audience are mostly JOP and all stuff on top does not applies to her. i ll not be surprised if they were annoyed by JSL

>>9325311
Well, id say there's novelty on their 1st appearance on the vtuber scene through Towa's, whilst this is gonna be their 2nd so its not that fresh. Based on the graph here there was a lot of viewers tuning in due to curiosity on how it was going before eventually dipping out.

>woah this Niji is higher than usual I wonder why.
>Kuzuha is in the stream.
every fucking time.

>>9325740
lel you mean olvier right?
yeah iw as surprised too.

>>9325674
>2.novelty (1st rpr stream with chuba)
Wrong retard.

>>9325311
The funny thing is that thanks to Lyger Matsuri was one of the first Holos the EN audience started getting familiar with in early 2020. She was poised to be huge but completely fizzled out. Compare to Marine who pandered hard and is now vying with Pekora for being the biggest name in vtubing

>>9325752
Ririmu.

>>9325336
He's learning to play Apex on a controller instead of M&K because Respawn decided to remove a fun movement mechanic that is mostly done by users of the latter method.

>>9325674
Well not quite. rpr streamed with Qpi, Qu Qualia, Chihiro and Kanae before the Towa stream.

>>9325753
for holo audience, yes

>>9325817
Then just say first stream with hololive.

>>9325813
Seems only towa got a huge boost from him.

>>9325852
Out of all of those chuubas who are EOPs watching the most?

>>9325886
Towa
>only holo
>Towa s got one of the bigest (percentage wise) EOP audience in holo

>>9325813
>Well not quite. rpr streamed with Qpi, Qu Qualia, Chihiro and Kanae before the Towa stream.
This guy is a fucking leech, it's amazing. Got popular only because of his reaction clips of him watching Vsaikyou, started begging for collabs in chuba's chats/twitter and here we are.

>>9325311
On the other hand, Matsuri can still be a really good "guest" for other chuubas, especially with big western audiences that like seeing her 2019 era Yabai shtick.

EoPs, though they like her clips and guest appearances, have mostly stayed away from her own channel, even before the Apex things.

>>9325931
i bet next1 will be Selen

>>9325886
>Out of all of those chuubas who are EOPs watching the most?
>>9325930
>Towa
Only if you mean in percentage of the audience because Haachama percentage of EOP may be lower but her EOP audience is higher than Towa's in general, specially in the English Only streams and the recent Reddit meme streams.

There is a reason there are 3 or 4 [EN] translators every Haachama stream and they for the life of it never yield and all translate every stream

>>9325954
damn, imaaaaggeeeee
It's for her being a drunk guest on Aruran's channel, that's making the clip rounds now and got him 5-6 times his normal views and SC.

https://playboard.co/en/video/bwoyH-OUSKY

Kanae only got like 12-15k with him, Didn't even know Chihiro collabed with him.
People only wanted to see him with Towa because that's his oshi.

>>9325954
>Matsuri can still be a really good "guest" for other chuubas
Maybe it is because I'm not paying that much attention but is she even collabing that often?

I've seen Mel and Aki more often interacting with other girls in those multiPOV collabs than even Matsuri

>>9325886
1-towa
2-kanae


3-Chihiro

>>9326011
Matsuri collabs with a lot of people that are not part of hololive.

>>9325930
>>9325984
I am talking about chuubas rpr leeches from, and the obvious answer is Tower, it was a rhetorical question

>>9325931
Yeeep, he was a sub 1000k followers, 3 digit view streamer for 2 years, and now he's averaging 3k views and over 85k followers.

But the vtubers want to play with him too.
He's still a pro that knows how to play the game, plus his growth is both from JP and EN/EU audiences, so it ends up being quid pro quo and a win for all sides.

>>9325954
anon most ppl (newfags) don't know/ care about Matsuri. right now she is almost Roboco/Choco tier chuba.
+Coco and Haachama stold her shtick in eyes of EOPs.
can we stop pretending that Matsuri significant part of hololive on the EN market?

>>9326062
>ends up being quid pro quo and a win for all sides.
It's only a win for him, no vtuber fan wants to hear his shitty yuropoor accent. And I've seen unicorns bothered by him, since he even Rushia was talking with him.

>>9325984
>Only if you mean in percentage of the audience
i literally said it anon!
+ follow conversation before over correcting me.
anon asked me
>Out of all of those chuubas(Qpi, Qu Qualia, Chihiro, Kanae and Towa) who are EOPs watching the most?

>>9325931
Fuck that nigger I want imperialhal or itztimmy collab instead

>>9326139
Hal & hal collab doko

>>9326071
Anon, you know that's not true and proved it yourself in this thread.

Matsuri may be more infamous than famous, but she is discussed and posted about way more proportionally to her viewer rate than pretty much any other chuuba, even in this board.

Newbies watch more clips than streams and Matsuri's still getting clipped a lot and those easily get over 100k views from a mildly popular channel.

>>9326008
mb because ppl (EOPs) do not care about niji and 2 literally who tier chubas?

>>9326160
Hal did a collab with TSM before.

>>9326062
Rpr towa is an almost perfect example of a mutually beneficial collab. Rpr got a huge surge in numbers and kept them because while clips and collabs expanded his audience he is legitimately skilled so he actually retained lots of them. He also seems to be a legitimate Towa fan and got a chance to collab with his Oshi. Towa has a fanbase that is going to be relatively accepting of a male Apex pro collab and she gets to play with a player with top skills, maybe make some connections for future tournaments. This isn’t leeching everyone involved profits.

The same is the of most collabs of course but people gotta be dramatic.

>>9326180
>and Matsuri's still getting clipped a lot and those easily get over 100k views from a mildly popular channel.
You can add a whole more punch to your argument by linking said clip or said channel

>>9326160
Hal hal shiv

>>9326180
this board is NOT an indicator.
+ ppl here love drama and there were at least 2 around her for past 2 month.
>Matsuri's still getting clipped a lot
not proportion wise compare to others

>STATE OF THE TUTORIAL BATTLE
ClockGirl already beat the tutorial and is dashing towards her fist true encounter, for a one on one with lvl 1 Anya
OwlGirl, GreenLamy and RatGirl are advancing at constant speed towards the final showdown with Choco Sub
>S-Sana...
Being hit thrice with that cursed sword and then rolling 1 fifteen times in a row truly stunned her.
She's taking the long path through the lava pit and facing each trash mob individually instead of, like the others, throwing them down the lava pit all at once.

>>9326400
Also: given the progression of the game it's not impossible that YAGOO will beat Sana to 200k. That would be just salt in the wound

>>9326400
>Rat mogged Roberu
ironic

>>9326257
Wanted to do the whole "show descending order from the last month" thing, but Susan's code is shit.
Here's a list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TAA-x85-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJ_LgAXeSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077_5hzqUpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnqilDRUO2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jocRzVG1Ojw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIz1b1R2UPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nduKE8LosC0

Holostars clips have been doing pretty well with her in them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgVsoE9TZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsSuA9Rg5A

Even new from the last few hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0nNW1FMALA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auz5b5v2bjI

>Stabilizes at 2.5k
Damn this is actually fucking sad
But 自業自得

Did festival's sc got affected at all by the bf drama?

>>9326477
I can confirm many if not most of these popped up in my suggestions.

>Holostars clips have been doing pretty well with her in them
The biggest winner of the VSayko with regards to HoloPro was Astel. His "interactions" with Matsuri greatly outshined even his interactions with his own team

>>9326547
>8 in the last week
seems the same

Nene is surely flexing some numbers on
>checks notes
SLITHER.IO?

Is that game a buff or something?

>>9326635
Zatsu game + viewers sniping.

>>9326635
Nene can make pretty much anything entertaining. She has a lot of talent as a streamer. Hard to believe shes the lowest subbed of Gen 5

>>9326635
IT is a hit or miss
is public participation since you can snipe her server and help her or troll er.
usually the first times it is a buff.

>>9326635
>simple game that is easy to follow
>chuuna can zaatsu since it isn't super involed
>hilarious things can happen with giant snakes so you get great reactions out of the chuuba
>audience participation
That is a formula for a buff game is I ever saw one.

>meanwhile in NijiLands
The Gwelu line is unforgiving, it's pretty much
>JP to the right
>ID+KR to the left

>>9326730
>NijiLands
any heavy hitters today?

>>9326769
They seem to be in a Pokemon collab with Ririmu leading the pack.
I would say Kuzuha will get his 30k+ bounty if he streams but I don't know

>Only 10ks in niji right now is Ririmu and Hayase
>Kuzuha is playing on Ririmu's side
>Hayase is doing a 6 man collab, though it's a low fps hell
>Lauren is playing "getting over it" (Another SC bait stream_
>Genshin numbers for Lize

>There's 10k streams in Holo now which is Okayu smash and Rushian MC
>A good 25k+ on Marine/Kanata Collab next timeslot
>Good numbers on Botan/Pekora/Towa Collab on 9pm JST
>Nakiri talk on 10 pm JST
>Miko scheduled stream later on 11pm JST

>>9326769
Kuzuha's 1 mil stream in.... who knows.
Lauren Birthday

>>9326865
>Marine/Kanata
Opened to 15k. Given their incline they could surprise and go beyond 30k but 25k is a good conservative estimate

>>9326916
They have the entire slot, 35k is certainly possible and it's a lie detector stream

>>9326865
>Nakiri talk on 10 pm JST
another bank forcute oni?

Aparently aqua got a sponsor by Honda?!

>>9326253
Yeah its important to note that some pair/group collabs are going to generate more interest based on hype and chemistry, like a Pekora and Moona collab would generate a lot of viewers for Pekora's stream compared to lets say a Pekora and Botan collab even if Botan has better numbers than Moona on paper.

>>9326916
25k on initial momentum, no stall yet

Who would win? The newest additions to the most popular vtuber company in the world, streaming in the most spoken language on the planet, or one funny elf man and his meme stream on an ancient PC?

>>9326730
Funny how you've posted it just before an update

>>9327139
Where's Patra?

>>9327139
Gura is still dominating in subs nearly a year after her debut

>>9327063
Where's the tweet?

>>9326635
Buff game, Kenmochi got 50k playing this or something.

>>9327196
https://www.honda.co.jp/run-project/
>第3弾VTuber 湊あくあ

>>9327139
This one is a little forced. Decent try though.

>>9327139
Major props for Gwelu but that "Gwelu line" is making the whole other branches of the company to look bad.

>33k to the first stall
Surprisingly strong stream

>>9327231
Christ, this girl....
So, she's now been part of
-Curry Meshi
-Red Bull
-Horse Race + Festival concert that CRASHED due to server load/ddos
-Honda
Isn't this a bit much?

>>9327278
>Gwelu line
Is it the same as people here joking about Ankimo being the first tutorial boss for new vtubers?

>>9327231
Honestly, I'd wait a little bit till Aqua herself shows up on the site. Doesn't seem like a collab though.

>>9326769
Looks strong for a monday already.

>>9327197
proof?

>>9327231
Gura tesla when?

>>9327311
>35k
No games, No e-celebs. I kneel queens.

>>9327335
Looks like Aqua's sponsorship reps paid off.

>>9327353
He got 33k according to archive reps but I'm too lazy to click all his untitled no game in thumbnail videos to see which one.

>>9327197
Anon.......

>>9327348
I know we've talked about niji getting SCs during big events. But I still don't understand them donating around 18k now after receiving 8k on his re8 gameplay for Lauren yesterday. Yeah, this is a birthday boost, but the dude debuted not too long ago. He earnt 28k in this week, and he'll get more after he finished his getting over it endurance.

>>9327438
Apparently his fans really like his voice.

>>9327438
He told the fans to hold the celebration until his birthday stream on the RE stream yesterday, so I guess a lot of people did. Or are throwing SC twice to celebrate.

why isn't anyone making a new piyo

>>9327063
>Aparently aqua got a sponsor by Honda?!
>>9327231
>https://www.honda.co.jp/run-project/
>>第3弾VTuber 湊あくあ
Gotta give it to this place: breaking news not even the rest of the community at large have notice.

Sasuga numbers thread

>>9327353
My bad, 50k was his ani stream, he got 34k for the snake game,

https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1393964040284639233

GURA GET BEHIND ME!

>>9327422
That sounds about right, if it was 50k I would have remembered more Toya shitposting.

>>9327523
Brains rotted already. Big numbers matters. There's no sponsorship numbers written anywhere.

>>9327438
He's a popular guy what's there not to get? Akina got 48k for his birthday not even a week ago and you doubt the power of yumejo whales?

>>9327556
Not even the king Kuzuhafag recognizes him, his only shitposters are his homos

>>9327583
I mean, Akina is okayish since he's been in the business for 2 years and his past streams didn't have any large donations. Lauren had debuted for more than a month and he earns $130k already. He has that Hololive boost where people throw $1k+ at him for every stream and that niji boost where people would throw ridiculous amounts of cash on a big event stream. Akina had the concert buff too on top of his own song whereas Lauren had nothing, probably his voice like some anon is saying.

>>9327543
>40k now
chumbud...

>41k
I'm pulling my hair

>>9327659
will it be archived?

>>9327438
Eden group sc is just fucking strong, they actually raped council, but no one even mentioned it.

>Lauren first SC stream: $59,752
>Leos first SC stream: $54,893
>Lain first SC stream: $29,201
>Oliver first SC stream: $17,455
>Axia fist SC stream: $16,173

>>9327644
So, the coco effect? Just let it go. His numbers will return to normal as all other male niji do after another month. He doesn't have an EOP boost and I doubt people would donate crazt amounts on him like Rushia fans do.

>>9327731
>comparing Niji JP to Holo EN.

>>9327776
So NOW you can't compare them.

>>9327605
They tried to use him to shitpost but he streams so infrequently and his numbers are all over the place that no one really gave it attention.

>>9327776
cope

>>9327738
>He doesn't have an EOP boost
What does that has to do with niji, are you retarded?

>>9327738
>NijisanjiJP
>depending on EOPs
>depending on EOPs forSUPERCHATS
Don't make me laugh

>>9327731
good start lets see if they can keep it up

>>9327731
What is Axia's gimmick?

2-day winning streak for Hololive

>>9327829
This. While there are always English comments in his chat, I haven’t seen English superchats.

REFLECT avg. views/hr (3M~4M) : 11027.3847
Current KING avg. views/hr after 3M : 17538

>>9327860
He is good at apex, but not as good as the other guy.

>>9327867
Inb4 kuzuhleech streams with another e-celeb to break 50k CCV.

>>9327644
>his past streams didn't have any large donations
Anon his 3D debut got $72k is in time top 10...
And it's not like being new affects your earnings at all, since 2020 pretty much every who makes a lot does it straight away

>>9327924
I'm just hoping Hololive could complete the one week streak first, but honestly it won't. On the 10th, there's that r6s tourney for Kuzuha and the boys. No special events for Holos either.

>TIME TO KNEEL
It doesn’t matter who your oshi is or what company has your favorite streamers. If you’re not kneeling to this you’re not even a numberfag.

Finished at the peak too, meaning it has potential to go even higher

>>9327903
Another interesting thing is that the King cover by Gura is outperforming a music video from YOASOBI that came out on the same day.

ラブレタ - 2,933,396 views
https://youtu.be/mnta9Pp2LqA

KING - 3,562,904 views
https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI

>>9328086
Why would anyone kneel to this.

>>9327998
So basically another round of artificial boosting to get 3 or 4 niji streams in the top 10 and kuzu to get number 1 spot.

>>9327998
One week streak is nothing special

Wonder if Kronii would still open SCs during today's SC reading

>>9328112
That's kind of baffling. I knew it would have legs and get good views, but this cover looks like it's going to smash records for the next month if Gura's Reflect is anything to go by.
I seriously thought it would take at least a 2 Weeks to hit 5mil but at this rate it's going to get there in 10 days.

>>9328086
>meaning it has potential to go even higher
Nah, it's a waiting room for Pekora's collab

>>9328086
42k for a big collab featuring Marine is actually pretty disappointing desu

What are the top ranked birthday SC streams?

>>9328266
Kanae top. That's all you need to know. And Maybe Kuzuha Second. Holos doesn't get that high, but usually it's a trade off for birthday merch to be sold.

>>9328112
I mean Gura's raw talent is undeniable at this point so it's not really surprising she'd surpass 1-hit wonder bands.

>>9328136
>>9328255
Here comes the nijicope

>>9328237
Same pattern like vtuber originals vs popular covers( if they have the same popularity).
Even REFLECT and RIP share views through different platform, people won't stick in one place listening to originals.

>>9328313
There is a guy who compiles top 10 like mometization, 3D debut, and etc. so I'll wait for him. Also, Kanae and Kuzuha have birthday merch don't they?

>>9328233
You know I just noticed it, but Kronii hasn't scheduled any zatsudans outside of her debut and the superchat streams. I wonder if that's a significant factor to her inclining more than the others.

>>9328266
1. Kanae 2021 - $82,145
2. Kuzuha 2020 - $65,248
3. Mori 2021 - $55,553
4. Gura 2021 - $51,265
5. Fuwa 2021 - $49,205
6. Akina 2021 - $48,618
7. Hayato 2020 - $42,004
8. Ina 2021 - $41,478
9. Natori Sana 2020 - $39,776
10. Subaru 2021 - $38,755
There's a few Holos that would've been higher but split their earnings over a countdown and the birthday stream proper

>>9328342
I don't remember Kanae having one on his recent birthday. It's just him showing his stream overlay for one hour.

>>9328345
Kronii hasn't opened up to zatsudans yet. She seems like a gamer, not a talker.

>>9328246
>>9328255
>>9328136
Less coping, more kneeling

>>9328233
if she actually opens she might potentially have to deal with 300k sub SCs too as she almost reached 300k during the SC opening
also the rest of her genmates didn't open SCs during their readings, I don't see why she would open it

>>9328379
Didn't Kiara also earn a lot since her stream is a 12 hour one?

>>9328255
nijicope went in hard
>big collab he said
xDDDDDDD

>>9328342
Every niji gets bday merch, even the ones that stream once every 2 months, that anon is retarded.

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1412697933947015168

>>9328380
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1412697933947015168?s=19

>>9328342
>birthday merch
everyone has
well except for lauren for some reason

>>9328412
That was the 1 million celebration stream.
Her birthday was a somewhat unfortunate timing not even a week after Coco's graduation and "only" got ~28k

>>9327644
>his past streams didn't have any large donations
How much he got from his 3D reveal again?

>>9328112
Would be pretty funny and sad at the same time if this clip of her Korean cover >>9323472 outperforming Irys's MV

>>9328460
https://youtu.be/2T7Ql4D1UnQ
This is even edited through different karaoke

>>9328454
>past streams
I meant normal streams before the concert stuff

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCNW1Ex0r6HsWRD4LCtPwvoQ/videos

>>9327998
Also this

>>9328539
Ah yeah, I forgot about this girl

>>9328539
She has a great singing voice so I expect good numbers. +60k

>>9328569
>girl

>>9327335
Aqua going full idol route paying off it seems. She's one of the faces of Hololive when it comes to being sponsored.

>>9328518
Damn, now I understand why some anon on this board calls her the best singer. It's so bad it turns good

>>9328576
She has more likes on this than Furen's announcement and that one almost got 100k

>>9328569
>Ah yeah, I forgot about this girl
Pretty much the crux of Nijisanji, they get remembered for the special events then Kuzuha goes back to the driving seat

>>9328317
YOASOBI is still very popular in Japan though. A lot of the HoloJP girls cover their songs every karaoke.
>>9328460
I can see it happening. The Odo cover from a Gura karaoke on the Toki HoloEN's channel already has more views than most recent hololive songs.
IRyS really needs to promote her music better.

>>9328584
She literally is one, she just wishes she could turn into a boy (but only sometimes)

>>9328317
>>9328606
Real bands don't have their main audience on youtube.

>>9328625
You're speaking to a bunch of children on a zoomer board, they don't know what CDs or radios or Spotify is

>>9328539
it got canceled

>>9328604
Wow just like Pekora/Gura and other streams

>>9328345
her incline is due to her strong debut impression and that she occupies a relatively new niche in hololive personality-wise. Despite the potential she has to grow, she's actually actively debuffing herself with her streaming habits
>continuing previous games and sticking to it instead of shuffling her schedule
>refusing to play THE buff game because she doesn't think it'd be interesting
>is hesitant to do public karaoke streams
>not doing the typical holo games so far
and it's already quite evident as seen on the viewer dropoff on the longer games she played like Frostpunk and Hollow Knight. I feel she might be the "high ceiling, low floor" kind of streamer whose views depends on the games she plays, but we will see how it folds on her Stories Untold and soon Hades streams

Potential dark horse for the day here
>kurokami
PREDICTIONS?

>>9328650
Thank god Gura chose to sing Ride on time rather than Baby Shark.

>>9328345
She can barely talk while playing games, and I don't expect much Zatsu from the SC reading either

>>9328664
Why?

>>9328680
22.89k

>>9328625
You are correct. Whenever these bands make a music video, they do upload it to YouTube, which allows for comparisons between fans that reside on YouTube.

>>9328694
Because anon has a great imagination.
The stream got privated for some reason but I haven't seen any announcements regarding that.

>>9328721
Yes, comparing Calli's music on her channel, YT topic, and Spotify all into one number is fine but for an IRL band only Youtube is allowed to be compared

>Roboco in charge of making thumbs to promote her collabs
Maybe it’s on purpose, collabs could be a debuff for her

>>9328770
Calli is the absolute exception that proves the rule, because she is pretty much the one that can be considered an “IRL musician” that happens to stream.

>>9328770
I've never done that, and the original post never made that kind of comparison. A little passive aggressive, don't you think?

>>9328802
Utaites?

>>9328802
I'll point out that Kiara's music is doing pretty well on Spotify too.
Especially Sparks which is already at 1m+ there

>>9328379
Stupid question but I'll ask it anyway; how well do anniversary streams usually stack up against birthday streams SC wise?

>>9328777
she updated it already

>>9328601
Melissa gets about 1.5k average viewers, as opposed to 4.5k Furen. But, that's mosly because she streams at terrible hours to under 1k viewers.
Her singing buff should be huge as she has some of the biggest covers in Nijisanji + expecting Ibra and Furen to actually appear in 3D too, since she's the last of the trio.

>>9328822
I think Calli is in some “no man’s land” because she’s expected to be a top performing live streamer and also expected to be a top performer musician.

>>9328903
Who fills that dual role other than her right now? Suisei?

>>9328871
she gets 5-10k on guerilla karaokes

>>9328871
Nope, new Niji rule for 3D debuts according to Furen is 1 guest on the stage, thanks to the coof
Planned shows for some reason are fine

>>9328922
>Suisei
Despite being a terrific singer there is still no pressure over Suisei to perform (in the charts) at the same level of Calli, when she does it’s a great achievement, when she doesn’t “it’s good enough for a streamer”.
You would expect AZKi and EN-AZKi to be under similar pressure but nobody expects them to perform well on the live streaming site so it’s the same but on the other half.

Calli can’t show any weakness in either songs or streaming or the “reclining” flag would be thrown all over her field

>>9328460
>Diorama
Anon, that MV is just a lazy ass lyric videos with just her album cover moving around, It wont outperfom Gura.

>>9328933
I guess it was about time at least

>>9328576
Id say 70k chima numbers atleast. Shes the least popular of her unit.
>>9328601
Furen is top female niji and has been 4.5k-7k median since last year, same for Ibrahim

>>9328933
>>9328997
They’re silly, the chink coof, if milked properly, is a great buff.
I would be coofing all the way to the top of the superchat weekly charts, then take a dramatic week long break then mount a triumphant return for more SC

>>9328984
I'd definitely argue there's pressure on Suisei now to replicate her success post-Ghost, if not from the general audience then from herself at the very least. She's clearly moved up a level when it comes to her own original music.

>>9329039
Just wait for Honhima's return stream, she had covid.

>>9328834
Outside of HoloEN its mostly only Suisei/Marine that do well on Spotify.
>>9328933
What prompted them to take precautions now? They already went through many lockdowns fine didn't they?

>>9329045
>then from herself at the very least
Oh, absolutely! She didn’t incline from two digits to where she is now by slacking off and resting on her laurels.

That’s what her 3D live is for tho, isn’t it? They they cancel the live audience part or it’s still on?

>>9329089
I think her album is a bigger statement of intent than doing a live to a few thousand people that probably won't even go ahead.

>>9325311
At this point i have a feeling she is trying to filter her male audience and increase her female ones.

>>9329072
Who knows, Honhima had it and recently recovered but she wasn't at the studio, she said she only went to supermarkets.

>>9329065
didn't she have a 3D live with many guests the same week she got covid?

>>9329072
They got their money at least from the planned shows rather than just cancelling them. In return, risking thousands of people getting the coof

>>9329170
She didn't attend it or her other collab, Chaika subbed in. Last thing was her bday live and she got sick 2 days before 3D poker with Dola Yashiro and Kuzuha

>>9328847
Not as well as birthdays but still pretty good
1. Gibara 2nd anniversary - $49,525 (also her graduation so this one barely counts)
2. Kanata 1st anniversary - $45,540
3. Pekora 1st anniversary - $39,537
4. Pekora 2nd anniversary - $34,291
5. Rushia 1st anniversary - $33,977
6. Miko 2nd anniversary - $32,563 (also comeback after 3 months off)
7. Rushia 2nd anniversary - $31,647
8. Coco 1st anniversary - $29,169
9. Suisei 3rd anniversary - $28,405
10. Kanae 2nd anniversary - $27,278
Interesting that this one is almost all JP Holos while the birthday list was a mix of Nijis and Holo EN

>>9329326
Are we expecting any of the ENs to crack this list this weekend?

>>9329065
She's be back this Sunday the latest because she's participating in Pokemon Unite tournament

>>9327335
She is always been Cover's secret weapon, piercing china market in the past and now dominating the local

>>9329349
Given the strong numbers they get for birthdays I think it's definitely possible. Could be a debuff having them all together though since someone who's a fan of multiple will be less likely to SC both

>>9329499
what's their schedule plan anyways? Having them all on the same day would mean many would miss the prime time slot

>>9329578
They're all doing it that day in a sort of semi-relay

>>9327335
why do they always pick aqua though? she's not doing too hot numberwise nowadays, even botan makes more sense.

>>9329618
It makes sense to ask for the Holo that already has experience doing sponsorships and has proven to be a success whilst doing them, rather than gamble on someone else. Her numbers haven't reclined badly enough to actually be a problem.

>>9329618
>not doing too hot numberwise
>all of her recent games are total debuffs

>>9329618
>Crashed NND, YT, and Nissinpowerstation during her concert
>Sold out her Curry meshi and redbull products
>Biggest sololive in hololive in term of liveviewers
Newfagchama...

>>9328460
>Diorama
People already listen to the song on other platform the past month. There's no reason to listen to what basically a lyric video when u can listen to it on spotify or other platform with better quality

>>9329724
oh yeah is there a confirmation if nissin powerstation concert canceled because of too many audience or chinks fuckery?

>>9329618
>she's not doing too hot numberwise nowadays
This place has rotted your brain if you think sponsors look at CCV.

>11k for a SC reading
SOMEONE FOR GOD SAKE NERF HER!

>>9329782
this.

Another winning day for Nijisanji

>>9329807
Is that the number of her member? There's no way people would sit through this unless they're member themselves like why bother listening to a vtuber thanking some random dude unless you're waiting to get thanked yourself

>>9329782
Didn't Subaru say that Nissin based their sponsorship on CCV or did I just dream that up?

>>9330001
???

>>9330044
no because Marine would have been in it.

>>9330018
Watch streams and stop thread reading.

>>9330001
NijiCHADji always wins

>>9329807
>SC reading
I thought the title said 3rd anniversary merch, SC and zatsudan

>>9329618
>why doesn't the big corporation care about numbers like I do
You need to go outside, dude. Aqua is hololive's poster girl since 2019 and she has over 1mi subs, that's good enough.

>Watame with only 4k
I noticed this when Mori was playing Guilty Gear, but are fighting games (for the sake of the argument let's pretend Smash is a fighting game) the biggest debuff? Both Watame and Mori do audience participation during these streams as well which should theoretically be a buff too.

>>9330044
That's noel and its about tiered reward she would get by ccv, iirc she got sad that the ccv didn't reach the highest tier but nissin gave it anyway.

>>9329227
https://twitter.com/mMtpe7cMCeQvm0U/status/1431845965628002308?s=20

>>9330099
>why does the proven to be incompetent and retarded black company do stuff that makes no sense
Cover management are stupid, them promoting Aqua when she's reclining badly is par for the course

>>9330058
Bait

>>9330150
it was also right by the time youtube implemented their new (at the time) spamviewers fuckery

>>9330150
Because the CCV promo happened the week of the YouTube update if I recall.

>>9330139
Fightans are a debuff, smash isn't. Smash is usually a buff.

>>9330153
What the fuck Japan

>>9330285
shes playing smash's solo campaign

>>9330382
Ah, then it's her fault for streaming something boring like that when smash is all about playing with other people.

>>9329089
>They they cancel the live audience part or it’s still on?
Nothing confirmed yet beside Azki's

>>9330330
It's the JP millennial and zoomer revenge to their boomers for looking at them like trash for watching anime.

Thread looks clean today. Keep it up numberchad, ignore bait and falseflaggrs

>>9330619
WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT?!

>usual heavy hitters getting their consistently high numbers?
>streamer doing exceptionally well in the day on a one off stream with a high enough peak to beat the heavy hitter?

THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK, CONFUSE, AROUSE AND MYSTIFY YOU!

[image of side by side comparison between the streamers]

Is there a reason YouTube maintains similar subs for Ina and Kiara while always having Mori around half the subs of Gura? I noticed this was set very early on and seems unchanging. Doesn’t Ina overall do better than Kiara? I don’t buy the excuse that Kiara tries to catch up, or that Mori magically maintains half the subs of Gura. Maybe YouTube pushes the videos out to others in a very specific order that it tries to maintain based on what it thinks people want to watch? I don’t know, it just seems weird. I’m thinking the sub order for Gen2 may also be locked forever.

>>9330044
Almost every ad campaign I’ve seen focused on views, demos, and targeted incentives (promo codes, new players). Ccv don’t pay when it comes to marketing outside of specific time constrained events.

>>9330977
Kiara has pity subs and more song subs like Mori I guess

>>9330977
>Is there a reason YouTube maintains similar subs for Ina and Kiara while always having Mori around half the subs of Gura?
It's not Youtube doing it, it is the reality of the subscription battle.

>I noticed this was set very early on and seems unchanging. Doesn’t Ina overall do better than Kiara?
There is no correlation between subcription count and any other metric.

Kiara and Ina are not even the only "twins", Haachama and Matsuri had their subs growth "twinned" for the longest time up until Haachama took an arrow to the knee and it, somehow, caused her visibility to MASSIVELY OUTSHINE Matsuri, something Haachama then went to take full advantage and use it in her favor.

Now, if Haachama were to slow down and take some more hiatus her absence and Matsuri presence would likely get their subs to go "twinsies" again

So, who owns Pokemon actually? Fuwa is doing a pokemon SS run while monetized. I don't see Holos doing the same.

>>9330977
>Doesn’t Ina overall do better than Kiara?
By what Metric?
Overall views Kiara is 16 million ahead
SC she's ~440k ahead
Ina generaly does better in live views and view per VoD.
>>9331123
The Pokemon Company

>>9330921
! ?

>>9329618
T. Childfucker

>>9331123
>why is no-one playing Pokemon SoulSilver

>>9330977
>>9331110
Kanata and Watame likewise. Interestingly enough, for all the accusations of "leeching" Coco the KanaCoco arc was the slowest for her and the abrupt end of it brought her back up to pretty much twin up again with Watame

>>9331110
>Haachama and Matsuri had their subs growth "twinned" for the longest time up until Haachama took an arrow to the knee and it, somehow, caused her visibility to MASSIVELY OUTSHINE Matsuri.

That’s what I was suggesting. That it is not easy to overcome this setup order by YouTube. That it would take a massive shift in popularity for YouTube to adjust anything.

>>9331123
It’s owned by three companies:
Nintendo
The Pokémon Company
Gamefreak

>>9331151
Is the company lenient in giving permissions while being monetized? This is my first time seeing a chuuba playing an actual pokemon run. I've never seen Holos playing them yet.

man

>>9331151
It’s bizarre to me people think Ina is somehow far ahead of Kiara when they stream on YouTube which emphasizes views and premium revenue (which In turn is heavily correlated with stream length and watch time) and Kiara has a near half million SC advantage. Like. Why? It’s not even rrats the numbers are right there.

>>9331292
Come on anon do your reps, permission saga is one of the longest issues with hololive and this is hololive board. You will get your answer in less than 10minutes.

>>9331246
My point it is that it is natural and not "setup by Youtube", there is a certain natural subs growth rate for streamers and most if not all of these girls are pretty much maxing it already, it is no wonder that genmates have the same growth rate and, given the proximity of their debuts, stick together for most of their growth.

That's true even for the ones in the bottom rungs, even with the pity boost for Aki Rose Mel ended up catching backup up to her because the people subscribing are doing it in the approx same rate of their interest and the exposure each streamers gets.

Even if you "shortcut" some of that exposure, you merely picked up some subs in advance of what the general interest in your activity would generate anyway.
Unless you're doing like Haachama and Marine and expanding the market to a completely different direction and bringing in people that would otherwise not be interested in what Hololive is outputting, your growth rate is more or less set in stone

And the real dark horse waaassss.
Lamy with 13k playing DDLC

As much as DDLC is a passed buff game, Lamy basically plays it like a horror game.
Lamy+horror is a fan favorite.

>>9331355
Anons here see CCV as the only metric for success.

>>9330977
For some reason, Kiara and Ina's got a lot of overlap apparently. Some anon ran the numbers when they compared which users in chat appear in other streams and Kiara and Ina have highest percentage to each other. So what probably happens is that a number of people that sub Ina also sub to Kiara.

>>9331279
To correct you slightly it's owned by the Pokemon Company, which is owned one third each by Nintendo, Game Freak and Creatures. And Nijisanji has Pokemon permissions, the sketchy part is that streaming a DS game involves either emulating or modding a DS and both can get you in trouble with Nintendo, but the Nijis never cared about that.

>>9329618
まくらえいぎょう

>>9331355
>>9331416
>Anons here see CCV as the only metric for success.
Some may but here are the numbers usually discussed

>peak CCV
>avg CCV
>median CCV
>subs count
>subs growth (daily, weekly, 30 days)
>VOD views
>VOD views growth (daily, weekly, 30 days)
>Superchat for special streams
>Total Superchat (daily, weekly, monthly, yearly)
>media appearances
>sponsorships
>merchandise
>twitter likes and retweets
>songs VOD views
>songs time to 1M, 2M, 3M and other milestones

Numberfags will numberfag everything

>>9331355
Because retards love CCV and believe in infinite scalability.
They fully believe that if Ina increased her stream output by 2 she's get twice the views

>>9331462
kek, if that would be true Noel and Choco would be doing 10x better than Aqua

>>9331405
>My point it is that it is natural and not "setup by Youtube"
I’m suggesting that there is both a natural and artificial setup to YouTube that explains how a near perfect sub balance lasts this long. And that the gap in performance needs to be wide enough naturally, for the balance to then shift. That small shifts are ignored. That YouTube may have an idea of what was popular, and then puts that in front of people even if the performance somewhat fluctuates.

It’s speculation on my part, but possible.

>>9331441
>Pokemon permissions
Man, I would've wanted Holos to actually play pokemon too especially FBK. Management really needs to stop sitting on their asses and get permissions for a lot of games. How hard is it to write a permission letter to companies?

>Nijis never cared about that
So, is fuwa playing the game legally or something?

>>9331670
The problem is that Cover wants legally binding agreements to let their talents stream games. They've been paranoid ever since Capcom almost shut them down.
Nijisanji has had Pokemon Sw/Sh perms since launch.

>>9331670
>Management really needs to stop sitting on their asses and get permissions
Takes two for this dance.

>>9329775
I don't think there is any confirmation yet, but chinks (at least the NGA ones) seemed to be oblivious back then and was wondering who did it as well (IIRC, they wondered if it was some ID groups), so it didn't look like their doing.

>>9331790
Some people were suspecting that it was the work of JP/TW Aqua antis

>>9327438
Maybe he has a lot of fans from his past life?

>>9331409
>like a horror game.
I mean it is for the people who don't know of its reputation and haven't read that much VNs that delve into some dark elements. You've literally got scenes where a character can suddenly crack her neck and run towards the screen, have the screen suddenly dim and be greeted by a closeup face.

https://note.com/margari/n/n6c72c689854a

>>9331858
>Some people were suspecting that it was the work of JP/TW Aqua antis
My best guess is that the tech staff fucked up majorly in scaling the site for the regular flow of anything vtuber related and then blamed on antis, in something equivalent to
>WIZARDS DID THIS!

It is all fun and games until 20k people are trying to log into your site in the same 60 seconds period and you have a 500 simultaneous connections bottleneck somewhere in your stack (for instance, in your database server configuration) that you never accounted for

Then the other 19500 attempts get queued, the network connection times out and they refresh the page, adding a second batch of attempts to be queued, and so on and so forth until your server melts into a puddle of copper and silicon.

Seen that happen too many times and the go to excuse is always the same
>w-we got DDOS'd

>>9331945
>一方で8月は7月の反動からか、低くなっています。32万台なので大体2021年2~5月の水準に戻ったという感じでしょうか。個人的な体感ではもっと少ない印象があったのですが、実際は思ったよりも高かったですし、2021年の標準的なラインに落ち着いているといった感じでしょうか。絶好調ともいえませんが、衰退は言い過ぎかなという印象です
DUH! That's exactly what's being said in this very thread, with an even better chart to demonstrated.

Coco graduation announcement and then actual graduation boosted Holo numbers to the highest point of the year, with it returning to the mean after the "graduation buff" wore off.
It is not featured in this chart but the current week will likely bring HoloJP to above the median line, making the mid August an outlier likely caused by vacations either by the audience or by the streamers themselves.

>>9331670
takos were mentioning that in ina's members stream the other day she said they lost Supergiant perms since they physically couldn't find the paper it was written on but have since found it. ever since capcom cover is super paranoid

>>9332022
I really hope that's the case, people were jumping to conclusions and saying that it was a DDOS attack

>>9331945
>>9332137
Also
> にじさんじのデータも取りたかったのですが、遡って情報が取得しやすいサイトが見つからず。
kek, we all know your pain, JP bro, we all know your pain

>>9332190
Anycolor hate numberfags

>>9332188
NTA but its quite the opposite anon, Nissin tweeted that its DDOS by 3rd party while anons in this board are skeptical and think thats its just corpo-speak since suisei also have issue with nissin server.

>>9332137
>mid August low
that's pretty much when Gura and Marine went half inactive

>>9332137
B-but niji mogged holo… Kuzuha and emperor kneel

>>9332190
I always found it funny how big numberfags 5ch Niji fans are but they never actually set up a reliable site for numberfagging.

>>9332297
how new?

>>9332246
didn't they just say it was unusual activites? That could also imply that the amount of viewers was so high it was considered unusual, thus not being prepared for such volume

>>9332262
And so did Pekora. Not really "inactive" but it was the first time I've seen her to take days off because something in her throat or something

Anyone who the thinks Holo is declining is a clown, There's always gonna be up and down. People have to remember V-Tubers and Hololive especially boomed during the peak of Corona so when half of Europe was locked up people think that's the norm when it isn't.
The numbers might be low for the next 2-3 months due people going back to work and school but it'll bump during Winter.

Holo's monthly views are going up so unless not sure where this narrative is being started from.

>>9332138
>Physically lost the permission
I know Cover has been super cautious since Holocaust, but I didn't expect them to be on this level of paranoid...

>>9332281
>Kuzuha and emperor kneel
Well, you should regardless, they're the top males and easily among the biggest this august

>>9332219
Kinda ironic when Anycolor itself is the biggest numberfag

>>9332418
Capcom sent out the yakuza to trash Cover's insignificant place. Don't quote me on this.

>>9332414
May and June were big months. Them going back to normal doesn't mean Hololive is declining. It's also the same for Nijisanji. They had a big month for July and August, doesn't mean they are inclining kek.

>>9332418
should have mentioned that you'd want to take it with a grain of salt since it was members stream so not easily referenceable but there were a few posts about it
>>9297293
>>9319123
>>9319482

>>9332414
I think this week proof that holidays (like summer vacay) are debuff for holo since their number dwindled in the past 2weeks and back to their usual this week. Welp we gotta see how the rest of the week plays out first of course

>>9332418
Quite understanable as it was almost killed them instantly. At this point Permissions has become some kind of phobia for cover

>>9332539
I mean, why would they need a physical copy? Don't they have the email of the permission as proof? Those things don't get deleted easily if you archived properly

>>9332479
They love the number of niji if it's big and the opposite

>>9332650
They need it in case an issue like getting sued by capcom happens again, in lieu of cash they can wave that paper instead.

>>9332650
most Japanese companies still use fax machines so i'm going to guess that is what they use for permissions requests

>>9332580
There is one thing in >>9332137 that shows more or less where Hololive audience would be without buffs: the period between the end of March and mid May was one of the most stable for Hololive as a whole, when taking in account the median CCV.
It sat between 5.5k and 6k, which makes the recent "drop" to 5.5k median CCV a "return to the mean" instead of a recline

>>9332718
>i'm going to guess that is what they use for permissions requests
There is a reason for that. For the longest time courts across the world accepts a faxed signed paper with the same validity as the originally signed paper.

There are some lessons that are lost in the mists of time in the western world but that are embedded in the very soul of the nips.
Trusting technology is one of those, they don't and they're 100% correct.

wait, i thought these hours is when all the schizos comes out of the woodworks, but this thread is actually nice and have actual discussions??!!!

>>9332631
Permissions and 3D AR concerts arcs for Cover next. They won't be afraid of permissions anymore once they've sorted their shit out and get all those permissions out.

Afterwards, China arc.

Lauren is really milking everything out and he's still halfway in the game. A combination of rage-inducing games and a birthday buff. Fuck this guy honestly.

>>9333074
holoseethe

>>9332955
moday so they're at school

>>9332979
>Afterwards, China arc.
I surely hope not, and not even because of the chinkout.
With all due respect to our East West Taiwan bros, and the HongKong bros (both being even more weeaboos than even western folks), here is the power ranking of the most cancerouis potential fanbases

>POWER RANKING OF THE MOST CANCEROUS FANBASES, FROM THE LEAST WORST TO THE WORST

>1. Japanese artists
>2. regular Japanese
>3. Japanese that frequent JP imageboards

[POWER GAP]

>10. Japanese that frequent Western imageboards
>11. Japanese that frequent and post on Twitter
>12. Ruskies and general slavs
>13. Regular western audience that NEVER frequent any sort of social media or talk online

[POWER GAP]
>100. Western audience that know what 4chan and /jp/ is and stay away from it
>101. Western audience that know what 4chan and /jp/ is and posted once in a whie
>102. /jp/ posters

[POWER GAP]
>1001. Foot fetishists that happen to like vtubers
>1002. Braap hogs that happen to like vtubers
>1003. Lolicons and shotacons that happen to like vtubers

[POWER GAP]
>8998. /vt/ lurkers
>8999. /#/ posters
>9000: general /vt/ posters
>9001: SEA niggers

[POWER GAP]
>90001. Chris Chan having his way with his elderly mother while watching Kuzuha playing APEX

[POWER GAP]
>900001. Latin Americans and any spanish speaker

[POWER GAP]
>9000001. Koreans and Koreaboos

[POWER GAP]
>90000001. Mainland Chinks

>>9331945
If only nijisanji had their own nijistats. Then, it'll be easier to compare views.

>>9332787
>hololive jp and en always above
who else is it also including for the general "hololive"? ID and Stars?

>>9333349
ID. See >>9332137

>>9333074
I love how many people in this thread are mad about Lauren being popular.

>>9333451
One (1)?

>>9331441
>the sketchy part is that streaming a DS game involves either emulating or modding a DS and both can get you in trouble with Nintendo, but the Nijis never cared about that.
iirc Nijis use modded DS, which is not illegal (modding one is illegal, but using one is fine, which means that it's quite hard to "obtain" one in Japan).

>>9333451
(You) and your samefags

>>9333506
If it’s only one it’s even funnier how obsessed he is

>>9333321
Shit ranking, Nips anti, Western SJW, or /pol/is just as bad as chinks

>>9333588
>just as bad as chinks
t. chink

I give you nip antis, they should be slightly above Latin Americans but the rest aren't anywhere near vtubing so far.

>>9333321
You largely underestimate how cancerous JP boards are. JP twitter-only fanbase is probably the best to have. For a JP chuuba that is.

>Indonesian internet everyone

>>9333451
maybe he really is red kuzuha

>>9333511
sauce https://www.gamespot.com/articles/japan-makes-it-illegal-to-mod-consoles/1100-6464178/

>>9333741
Ollie yesterday too.

>>9327335
Don't forget doing an anime ending with NEGI U.

>Top 20 today

Today's top according to
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-09-06

(sadly, don't include HoloEN2 girls)

>>9334061
>1M buff
>FPS collab
>Not even 20k
King...

>>9334061
>>9334085
Slow day today huh

Anya just killing one stream
https://pastebin.com/XkwkPbew

>>9334126
>Nothing without tournament buff

The week of Aug 31 to Sep 6, according to
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?end_date=2021-09-06&start_date=2021-08-31

(sadly, don't include HoloEN2 girls as well)

>>9334180
Must be >>9333741

>>9334301
Here it is, in text format

>72,363: Lamy (Hololive)
>65,027: Aqua (Hololive)
>64,196: Botan (Hololive)
>59,204: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,204: Pekora (Hololive)
>46,258: Ayame (Hololive)
>43,199: Nijisanji Channel (Nijisanji)
>42,647: Marine (Hololive)
>39,737: Gura (Hololive)
>38,462: Botan (Hololive)
>37,456: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>36,884: Nijisanji Channel (Nijisanji)
>33,487: Marine (Hololive)
>32,733: Lamy (Hololive)
>32,430: Nijisanji Channel (Nijisanji)
>31,786: Marine (Hololive)
>31,728: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,464: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>30,912: Gura (Hololive)
>30,730: Subaru (Hololive)

Sadly, doesn't track HoloEN2 yet

>>9334126
>>9334179
we took tournaments away from him, we'll be seizing his PC and house next then breaking his arms/legs to import him to afghanistan
t. taliban

>>9334301
Wait, why does 1 Pekora's stream rank 2 times?

>>9334333
No, c'mon man, just read what vid was removed. It was from December 12th, titled SLEP.
Not sure why it was removed, but it was.

>>9334413
Good for Kuzuha not relying on Apex all the time now that the update killed Mouse control apex fags

But still,
>Valorant
>Pokemon Unite
The future is grim unless he starts his own minecraft stream with Kanae and the boys.

>>9334552
Crossed midnight JST, maybe? This site is, in general, very dodgy but, for the time being, it's the least worse available

>>9334604
>now that the update killed Mouse control apex fags
Wut? What they did?

>>9334604
if we get a 2nd valorant spam arc i might kill myself please don't do it kuzuha

>>9334640
they're taking away tap strafe. people were on their asses and they're still doing it, probably why shibuhal's having the controller streams. he understands it's truly over.

>>9334640
They killed tap strafe. Higher level Apex players used it a lot, it basically lets you quickly change directions after a slide jump.

>>9334301
>>9334413
Going through them, no EN 2 stream would have made the top 20 anyway.
Closest being on Fauna's channel
【COUNCIL MEETING】 Important council business... - 24,132

>>9334843
>>9334870
Damn niggers, always nerfing the game to please the noobs. If Quake had been made today they would have "fixed" bunnyhopping and rocket jumping

>>9332539
https://files.catbox.moe/3u0483.webm
Here, I'll spoonfeed.

>>9335016
thanks wasn't aware it was clipped

>>9335115
It wasn't, I made the clip.

If some guy created a numberfag site for nijis like Holostats, can anykara shut it down themselves?

>>9335198
why would they

>>9335198
>can anykara shut it down themselves
Legally, no. They can ask really nicely and any person interested enough in their company or fan of their talent would comply.

I put a halt on my own development back in August because, well, booze and Piyo Nip Bro made his better than what I would have done.
Maybe I should restart from where I stopped

>>9335198
2434rankings twitter still exists. it once had a site too.

>>9335294
please do anon. not sure what any of us can do to help but do mention it in case of anything.

>>9323336
Anyone else bored with numbers? It doesn't seem like there is ground for upsets anymore, the positions between each generation's members seems locked in place.
Instead of tangible changes you have to like, wait nine months for Nene to catch up to Lamy and Polka for a chance of a position shift.

>>9335421
The importance in tracking numbers is always going to be in trends, outside of the obvious events that crop up.
Seeing who's rising/falling and figuring out the whats and whys of it. It's why databases are so so so important and the loss of Vnuma and Piyo is a massive pain.

>>9335421
We could always talk about midgets, but there isn't a good dedicated ranking for that. A ranking list that doesn't include Hololive and Nijisanji.

>>9335414
>not sure what any of us can do to help but do mention it in case of anything.
One thing would be put a link to that Google Docs from piyo with all the channels they tracked.
I never thought it would go away so I never saved the link

>>9335421
personally i don't mind if big things happen or not, i just like stats. my oshi isn't big enough to make into rankings but i still keep track of numbers and notice what works/doesn't work on the channel or if there's any incline.

>>9335596
Here you go anon
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjAaCl6MfkxK1wP1NQsxU5q4GFNmAMGkjqiNBq_YKQM/edit#gid=46913005

>>9335651
Thanks a lot, the sets me back into the right path. I was collecting this "by hand" from the wiki but having it all in one place is gold

>>9335421
You're not wrong that numbers have become a lot more stable, every year or so since Kizuna Ai debuted there was a paradigm shift in the industry but since the Hololive explosion of early 2020 the only real massive event or trend was HoloEN solidifying their position as the top agency. A list of the biggest vtubers in 2019 and 2020 looks very different, but comparing 2020 and 2021 would be almost exactly the same.

>>9335892
does anybody have that top 50 one anon did? The literal #1 doesn't change much, but around #20 you can see a lot of fluctuation, even some indies coming about

>>9335892
>but comparing 2020 and 2021 would be almost exactly the same.
Only if you mean September 2020 to September 2021 because the field is pretty much unrecognizable from the start of 2020

>>9336020
And this month, Vshojo inches to the top. This is quite the underdog story if you ask me

>>9336162
>inches to the top
You are using the correct term with "inches", at this pace they may reach the top in 36, 48 months

>>9336005
This one right? Also interesting that, if EN2 follows the same trend as the new nijijp wave a month prior, their best performers should settle at around Ina/Irys levels. And ironmouse was #51 i think they said, vshojo is struggling to push beyond that #50 threshold

>>9336357
They seem to have a ceiling. The vshojo brand obviously gives anyone who joins a big bump but they can't break past a certain point.

>>9336357
I think mousey needs another hololive collab to break through. But idk if any other en besides Mori would want to do it