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Dino Buddy Yummy Nuggies, Hold the Mug Edition

Welcome to VShojo+! A thread to discuss VShojo, and any vtubers frequently associated with them.

It's Sunday! That's our usual slow day of the week. Except it's not that slow for once. We've got Zen grinding away at Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion, Mouse celebrating half a mil subs on YT, Mel debuting a new single, and we might even get some drunken Froot later. Busiest Sunday in eons.

But recommending VODs from the week is a good way to recap so it's happening anyway. Since it was also probably the slowest week in memory there's not much to recommend, but definitely check out:
Mouse - Thursday's Speak of the Devil with Haruka! It wouldn't take a genius to tell you that these two would hit it off very quickly, but it was still a joy to watch them hang out in their first proper collab. If you've ever wanted evidence that most vtubers are just scared to ask for collabs you can't get much more proof than these two having been within arm's reach for well over a year and only now finally getting around to it.
Vei - Only a half recommendation really, but Thursday's stream from Vei addressed some things that needed to be addressed, and a surprise visit set her on a mission to design a new DND character live on stream. Her enthusiasm and excitement were utterly infectious and a great antidote for the events that plagued the start of the week. There was also BoI, but most people would be satisfied with just the DND portion.
Silver - Silver's Fear Factor Food ASMR stream on Friday is going to be hard to top as one of the best streams all month, much less this week alone. With a fancy mic set up to capture every single mouth sound Silver was visited by her own mother who played the part of a schoolyard bully to her own daughter. Food started off easy with seaweed and exotic jerky, but quickly escalated and by the end Mamavale was openly enjoying the torment she inflicted upon her daughter. Who could have ever suspected that Silver was not interested in eating bugs? It made for fan-fucking-tastic content and is absolutely worth a watch if you missed it live.

And that's it. Sure, there's been other streams this week like last night's Mouse + Mel collab or Zen beginning Halloween 2 full months early, but time is finite so these are the ones that most would agree should be given priority. Your time is your own of course so no one's forcing you to do anything. What matters is that you keep the thread comfy by ignoring bait, enjoying the peace, and being excellent to each other.

VShojo is:
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/veibae

Previous thread: >>9272402

>> No.9302957

Fuck Ironmouse

>> No.9302986
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That guy doing VShojo coffee cups did Zen next.

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>>9302957

>> No.9303005

Mikey is now officially vshojo+. Mel has ordained him.

>> No.9303016

>>9302957
This but unironically and with consent.

>> No.9303017
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>>9302957
based

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>> No.9303102
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Mouse has gotten so much good art over the last day and one of them will make a great future OP. But I went with this one.

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eldritch cum

>> No.9303143
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>> No.9303164

I wish pink cat would embrace her clones more, it would let her dress up however she wanted with a "free will"/mutation arc.

>> No.9303187
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>>9302957
I love her but I wish all the OTV and Connorfags would move to a different threads. We have no say in anything but fags don't need to rub it in.

>> No.9303196

>>9303102
Dat monke

>> No.9303203
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Froot!

>> No.9303205
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>>9303164
That would be a good lore reason to change the base look. One of the clones grows too powerful and defeats her in battle and becomes the new Nyanners

>> No.9303223

mouse is a fucking disaster since she started colalbing otv fuck this shit and she was so amazing to watch....

>> No.9303268
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>>9303223
based don't listen to the yesmen faggots
just wait it out or watch VODs

>> No.9303278

Holy shit take your whining elsewhere.

>> No.9303288

>>9303223
She got noticed by the larger twitch meta. What can you do?

>> No.9303299

>>9303164
agreed. however faggots want "funni pink cat" doing the same "I'm horny" joke they saw in clips for all eternity with no innovation at all.

>> No.9303308
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9303308

>Try a Bao VOD
>Great voice, great demeanor, still young but lots of potential why have I only heard her called the zoomer wha-
>"ayo yall foreal straigh bussin i go hit me wit it and he go say less senpai shit fire"

Oh.

>> No.9303323

>>9303205
She could also have a bunch of stream stealers in rotation, all with different outfits and maybe personality quirks.

>> No.9303324

>>9303278
The only solution at this point might be a thread split.

>> No.9303365

>>9303324
Fuck no. They can just stop whining. They can't do shit about it and whining here is only shitting up the place. Nobody cares if they're a complainy bitch.

>> No.9303440

>>9303365
Shut the fuck up. How you can be ok with Mouse quality streams go down to shit ?

>> No.9303441

>>9303308
ABG with a side of tiktok vocab. Not a terrible combo, but, can be jarring to the uninitiated.

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>>9303102
Y-yeah

>> No.9303483

>>9303365
Fucking /hlgg/ figured this out months ago. They mostly love Mori and Kiara while at the same time hating their interest in things outside of Hololive. You can like and support someone while not agreeing to every single thing they do. You don't even want to watch OTV streams, Mousey acts completely differently there.

>> No.9303494

>>9303365
can you list all the other things we arnt allowed to talk about, since you seem to be the one in charge of this thread?

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>>9303440

>> No.9303565

Doesn't Mouse still stream more hours than anyone else in VShojo? She can do what the fuck she wants and anyone who has a problem with that can go watch something else. Nobody is holding you hostage.

>> No.9303576
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Anyway schedule time. Currently live:

Mel - Just hanging out after the debut of her new song. Nothing important but Mel's always fun. https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody

That's it. Later today.

Froot? - I mean probably not. It's late for her and she has gotten drunk this late but I wouldn't count on it.

That's it. Also don't have a schedule for tomorrow but Nyan is confirmed to be streaming thanks to her schedule released. Mel has the day off and the rest are unknown but I'd expect Vei and probably Zen too. Also feel some people should be reminded that Mouse hasn't streamed on Sundays basically ever and literally all of the girls have said that joining a stream is much easier than streaming yourself and also that yes there is a plasma shortage and yesterday Mouse said she's going to be late on it again.

>> No.9303587

>>9303308
literally the reason I stopped watching her.
Everything about her is perfect, then she opens her big fucking mouth and it's like pure garbage coming out.

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..rrat?

>> No.9303629

daily reminder that Vshojo is cringe

>> No.9303633

>>9303620
Yocci is silvers new dad.

>> No.9303634

>>9303576
Jerma is live

>> No.9303636

>>9303576
>no stream
This is going to be a fun thread isn't it...

>> No.9303688

>>9303620
I seriously hope vshojo agreed not to reply to new hires on Twitter before they're confirmed. Keep a fucking surprise girls.

>> No.9303710

>>9303620
I mean there's an obvious rrat people could infer, but I don't want to believe they would be this open about it if it's what many would assume it to be so it's probably something else. https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1434663735910621188

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>>9303620

>> No.9303730
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>>9303629
That's why I'm here.

>> No.9303738

>>9303620
so he's the new hire?

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>>9303458
Spoilers for a future OP image

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I, for one, am looking forward to gothic lolita pink cat. I also hope she does a hyper realistic pink cat as a joke

>> No.9303809

Watch mouse cancel her stream with Nyan to hang out with her new "friends"

>> No.9303817

>>9303767
Fucking perfect. Time to greenscreen that.

>> No.9303839

>>9303767
Soul

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>> No.9303863

>>9303809
If this is still the same anon, I agreed with you but now you're just shitting up the thread pointlessly. Possibly an outsider who latched on this to stir shit up. Leave.

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>>9303809
that would be pretty funny, sad but funny

>> No.9303879

>>9303789
it'll be serious cat dyed pink

>> No.9303919

>>9303879
I'm perfectly fine with that as long as she plays it 100% serious and acts like nothing is different.

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>>9303919
Yes

>> No.9303957

>>9303863
you do know that telling them to leave does literally nothing, right?
just ignore it in the first place you retard

>> No.9303988

>>9303879
@shindags is going to become cto of cringecat technologies llc.

>> No.9304064

>>9303137
damn bro this is fuckin sick
excited to see what the actual design ends up like

>> No.9304077

>>9303957
>just ignore it in the first place you retard
zoomers never learnt rules of the internet anon
>never feed the trolls

>> No.9304125

>>9303714
my hope is this is a song collab between the 2 as they talked about it before,if she ends up joining i guess we have 2 new leakmasters except unlike mouse they leak group stuff and not personal thing and thats kinda cringe

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>>9304064
It's just fanart I think she said the actual thing would be more gothic lolita. So likely something like her new Twitter ava

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>>9303817
Done

>> No.9304155

>>9304077
i know...
i just want them to understand...

>> No.9304163

>>9303308
They don't call her zoomer whale for nothing.

>> No.9304165

>>9303288
tell her clearly the fans don't like it like any other Vtuber fanbase would in this sort of situation.

>> No.9304241

>>9304064
When you don't reply and it's not 100% obvious, retards will reply for you unfortunately.

>> No.9304287

I feel like Silver has become the farm team for players moving up to the majors. And this rrat solidifies that in my mind. She's been working with more indies than any of the other girls.

>> No.9304369

>>9304287
This is a very weird comment.

>>9304165
Oh? And what vtuber fanbase are you trying to emulate, dear anon the whiny bitch?

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>>9304126
why you gotta keep posting the cropped low resolution version bro

>> No.9304528

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1434668758912602113

>> No.9304533

>>9304369
Any that has self respect for fuck's sake. NTA.

>> No.9304582

>>9304496
Probably because he downloaded it from Pink Cat's Twitter PFP.

>> No.9304587

>>9304533
Oh? Like which ones, anon? Which ones have "self respect"? Which vtuber fanbase out there do you admire so much that you want to turn into right now? Hm?

>> No.9304589

>>9304369
Watch most of the girls she streams with get signed to the label.

>> No.9304634

>>9304587
Ok we get roxxy you can leave will be good anons....

>> No.9304759

>>9304528
Sounds like another plasma shortage issue. Poor Mouse.

>> No.9304796

>>9304634
What I figured.

>>9304589
Still a weird comment. There are quite a few streamers who could end up being invited to join, but we still only know a few names that have even applied, tho a few are putting out YouTube videos of their auditions from that other anons have said. The reason I find the comment weird is that Silver isn't the only one who knows and works with a lot of indies, she's just more public about it.

>> No.9304818

>>9304125
I'd say this is much more likely. Would be willing to bet anyone who does get to join has to sign an NDA saying they won't bring it up until the official announcement is made. Which is why I think Snuffy's already in. Don't think she's mentioned the auditions even once.

>> No.9304886

guys, re: pink cat is ICONIC
i think as long as nyan was still a catgirl she could rebrand her color scheme no problems.

>> No.9304935

>>9304587
Being this much of an annoying, prescriptive little shit should be a bannable offense.

>> No.9304958

>>9304528
Damn, stream might not happen tonight then, hope she's alright

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>>9303809
now you're just making up things that would never happen and getting mad about it

>>9303620
>File Deleted
I assume it was just the Yocci and Silver excited tweets? If it does turn out Yocci is joining vshojo it's retarded they're being so obvious about it on Twitter.

As for her joining, it's fine I guess? Would have to see how she meshes with the rest of the girls, she seems nice anyways.

>> No.9305042

>>9304958
She's already delayed the stream until next week. She seemed to be feeling okay last night, albeit sleep deprived, but a lot can change for someone with her condition in a day.

>> No.9305121

>>9305042
I thought she only delayed the 700k twitch stream, not the 500k yt stream

>> No.9305126

>>9304982
Wait, Silver screaming "AAAAA" is what people are running with? Silver screams "AAAA" at things all the time. She's just excitable. The auditions aren't closed yet, so there's no reason to even begin to think decisions have been made.

>> No.9305175

>>9305121
She crashed this morning hard and woke up late, so she postponed the YT stream via a message on her Discord.

>> No.9305199

>>9303187
Connor is vsj+ tho

>> No.9305212

>>9302166
Can I get a clip/timestamp?
I'm mikey lore anon, but I had to step out for a few hours, so I'm curious.
Did Mel recognize mikey?

>> No.9305269

>>9305199
fuck this timeline

>> No.9305286
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>>9305126
It's this + the tweet here. >>9303710 but it's probably not joining vshojo people just want to look know more about auditions.

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>>9305199

>> No.9305350

>>9305199
Soon he'll be flat out vsj with the Bubi reveal.

>> No.9305362

>>9305286
I mean, it could be anything

>> No.9305376

>>9305126
Take more than 2 minutes to look into it. They're both getting excited on their respective twitters, replied to each other, and their likes indicate it's something big, not just a collab or some shit.

Could it be something else they're both involved with thats big? Sure, but there's one thing we know it might be that fits the bill so...

>> No.9305404

>>9305269
Still better than otv people tho

>> No.9305424

Men don't deserve to be on the same screen as my 2D gals.

>> No.9305452

>>9305376
I mean, here's the tweets: >>9305286. Looks like Yocchi has something cool coming and Silver is just doing a thing along with her because they're dorks.

>> No.9305563

>>9305376
>>9305452
https://twitter.com/Girl_Dm_/status/1434663538375761922

Like, girl_dm basically sums up what Silver is probably doing. "AHHH WE'RE EXCITED BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHY BUT WE'RE GONNA 'AAAA' RIGHT WITH YOU!".

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I would like to take this time to remind everyone that VShojo auditions are still open until the end of the month

>> No.9305607

>>9305424
/hlgg/ is over that way

>> No.9305618

>>9305452
>>9305563
https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1434663735910621188

Silver also tweeted this at the same time

>> No.9305634

>>9305376
None of us know but chances are high that anyone accepted would be given an NDA to keep cool about it. And Silver would be a huge idiot for going along with it if that's what this was so it's probably not that. No idea what it would be though

>> No.9305639

>>9305563
Girl_DM knows. She knows.

>> No.9305664
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>>9305350
>anoter ironic vtuber who does it for luls only
Can't wait for Hime 2

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>>9305607
concession accepted.

>> No.9305693

>>9305576
Why would that matter? You think here are any femanons in these threads?

>> No.9305723

>>9305424
Connor + Mouse streams are some of Mousey's most entertaining, sorry you can't enjoy them

>> No.9305728

>>9305618
Silver also had a cool thing where one of her comments on The Forgotten City was used as part of the game's trailer. So, she undoubtedly knows what Yocchi has going on because they're really good friends, but Silver could also have her own shit going on or just be having a really damn good day.

>> No.9305794

>>9305664
He won't be an official member like hime, just play the role of bubi.

>> No.9305798

>>9305723
Mousy got by for 4 years without Connor.

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>>9303440
>>9303809
I submitted my video weeks ago, I'm sure she'll get around to watching them soon

>> No.9305800

>>9305693
No, I'm telling everyone who are already shouting "SHE'S IN!!!" to remain cool until the actual deadline is up.
Management hasn't decided on anyone, no matter how much you've decided on someone

>> No.9305944

>>9305664
It'll be a bit different than Hime, given that Bubi is a character directly tied to Mouse. As far as has been publicly discussed, he'll be voicing her familiar, and she's getting a Goro style model for him, and because mouse is extra as fuck, a humanoid model. She has a character sheet made up for Connor, and direction for his voice.

>> No.9305948

Connor is an unentertaining crossdresser faggot, a shameless leech that barely has any channel growth despite being so fucking shameless. I will never care about him or his interactions with anyone.

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>>9305212
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1140181405
From 01:09:40 and 01:14:00
Mikey wants to receive Neptune figurine on birthday.
He and Mel also wants Vshojo 18+ action figurines but it is a lot of work.

>> No.9306090

>>9305948
There's only 30 IPs here.
What do you get out of posting here, Mouse?
Fucking tsundere....

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>>9305948

>> No.9306123

>>9305199
based

>> No.9306141

>>9305798
>5 viewers before 2020
kek

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>>9305948
He is a leech, that much is correct. Mouse will/would be fine without him.

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>>9305948
>Leech
He is more popular than Mouse. If anything, Mouse leeches off him.

>> No.9306220

>>9305948
Nice self report Conner, go hobble to Tesco for some ciders and chicken.

>> No.9306287

>>9304165
>like any other Vtuber fanbase would in this sort of situation
/vt/ is far from "any other Vtuber fanbase"

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I hope she's resting well after those big streams she did

>> No.9306351

>>9306208
Less followers, less viewers.... in what way is he more popular?

>> No.9306361

If the majority of you would agree that keeping men from the 2d anime girls is best for everyone we could force these weirdos out to find new oshiis in the billion other threads.

>> No.9306362

>>9306208
That UK flag is incorrect as it's not inclusive of Scotlands saltire

>> No.9306402

>>9304587
pretty much any other from the bigger ones at least because they don't pretend to be above parasocial stuff with cartoon women to the point voicing any criticism is brushed with "just go outside" kind of attitude and I know you guys don't go outside.

>> No.9306434

>>9306351
Twitch is only his side-gig which he does for fun

>> No.9306465

>>9306208
I wouldn't go that far. He pulls fewer viewers on twitch, and Mouse's YouTube isn't her main or maybe even secondary concern. Only comparison is twitch, and he loses there.

>> No.9306479

>>9306362
Isn't it just behind the red shit? Don't see a dragon on it anyway so Connor must be seething at this blatant attack on Wales

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>>9306052
I'm so proud of mikey

>> No.9306507

>>9306351
Youtube. And his viewers are comparable, only slightly less.

>> No.9306531

>>9306434
So you could say he's just a small streamer just for fun?

>> No.9306538

>>9305424
I know. Just don't watch.

>> No.9306628

>>9306465
So it's fair to compare mouses main gig and Connors side gig, but it's not fair to compare Connors main gig and mouses side gig?

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>>9306538
YWNBAW

>> No.9306672

>>9305944
I don't know why we're expecting anything good to come out of this. No way Connor can keep keyfabe, it's not like Mouse really tries either.

>> No.9306759

>>9306507
Yeah, they've boosted since he started leeching off of mouse

>> No.9306767

>>9306660
You will an hero before age 30

>> No.9306823

>>9306479
No the White behind the red represents the White in the saint Patricks flag. That's why the red is not in the center on the real flag because it's supposed to be split between the White scottish saltire and the red Irish saltire

>> No.9306886

>>9306759
And Mouse leeched off of Mel, your point?

>> No.9306931
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9306931

/vsj+/ - for vshojo girls and female friends (read: shojo)
/vsj+ecelebs/ - connorshit, otv and zenpost-friendly
Fixed your thread quality.

>> No.9306964

>>9306823
But where's the dragon?

>> No.9307070
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>>9306767
I'm already married with 2 kids, joke's on you!

>> No.9307108

jesus christ stop taking the bait idiots

>> No.9307131

>>9306628
No, I'm just saying that that's the only reasonable one to make. I still wouldn't call it fair. Connor's YouTube eclipses Mouse's in views and subscribers, but that's because she's a live entertainer, it's not even like, say, Ludwig where he structures his streams to later be diced up into YouTube videos.
Connor turns streams into YouTube content, while also making YouTube content. I don't think either comparison is actually fair to either of them, they're in different lanes of the same pool.

>> No.9307170

>>9306964
England conquered Wales when they made the flag, so Wales doesn't have any representation in the union jack

>> No.9307185

>>9307070
If false, you're a faggot.
If true, you're a disappointment of a father if you still rant about trannies on 4chan,

>> No.9307230

>>9305948
>barely has any channel growth
kek

>> No.9307229
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>>9307070
>married with 2 kids
Did they consent?

>> No.9307299

>>9303576
She looks great like that, I await the inevitable model commission

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9307308

This is riveting discussion and alll, but where is Mouse's YouTube stream?

>> No.9307342

>>9307108
How is it bait? Do you get to dictate what people have concerns about?

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>>9306931
I love this Mouse's mascot character with suspiciously familiar welsh accent.

>> No.9307534

>>9307308
Delayed to next week.

>> No.9307552

>nyanners has been sitting in Jerma's stream the entire time

I'm glad Nyanners is having fun watching her crush

>> No.9307577

>>9306931
It's for Vshojo girls and their extended universe.

>> No.9307623

>>9306931
shojo means virgin

>> No.9307677

>>9307552
>It's real
I'm really endeared to her

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>>9307552
Same

>> No.9307721

>>9307308
She only slept for an hour last time, and crashed hard the whole day

>> No.9307772

>>9307552
>>9307677
If she has a Jerma tab in chatterino it'll show her in the viewer list even if she isn't watching

>> No.9307853

>>9307552
>>9307677
Jerma is the Nyan muse

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>>9307772
>even if she isn't watching

>> No.9307857

>>9307772
Nyanners specifically took a day off in the middle of the week so she could watch day 1 of the Jerma Dollhouse stream. She is probably just watching it.

>> No.9307949

>>9307857
The dollhouse stream was a massive event, this is just a normal stream

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>>9302918
>Tooters
A restaurant where all the girls fart?

>> No.9308344

>>9308015
How would you induce farting among the staff?

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>>9307552
Leave Pink Cat be, let her watch in peace.

>> No.9308623

>>9308344
They eatin beans

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>>9308540
Anon you misunderstand I think its very cute.

>> No.9308769

>>9308623
on toast

>> No.9308934

>>9308702
Oh, I know your intentions aren't bad - that was addressed to whoever else might've read that.

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>>9306208
Conner new model when he joins vshojo

>> No.9309569

>>9309541
I recognize that bulge!

>> No.9310168

>>9307342
Best I can tell if someone has an opinion you don't agree with it's bait and if you respond, sharing your opposing opinion, you're a retard.
These are the thread rules.

>> No.9310310

>>9310168
I mean, you're right. But there is also BAIT. And you know it when you see it

>> No.9310385

Mel putting the call out there. She wants to collab with Jenny Nicholson

>> No.9310594

Zen is blasting off https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1434690789494464514

>> No.9310740

>>9307712
I've seen this image thousands of times and it still nearly made me spit my beer, pink cat has great taste

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>>9310594

>> No.9310824

zen, less talk, more apex you cunt

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>>9310824
don't you mean "you dick"

>> No.9311496

>>9311297
Kys

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>>9310824
Froot, stop browsing here

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>>9311496
>it's that easy

>> No.9311961

>melody watching and laughing at jontron
how long til she gets cancelled?

>> No.9312172

>>9311961
Her loli model already labels her as cancelled. It just hasn't manifested itself yet and isn't likely to.

>> No.9312227

>>9311961
Nah, JonTron is one of the few cases of someone who successfully uncancelled themselves

>> No.9312263

>>9312227
By the power of flex tape.

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9312339

I gifted my sister a sub to Melody during the hoop train and she got so excited she started twerking

>> No.9312362

>>9312227
He got cancelled before cancelled was cancelled

>> No.9312428

>>9312339
Show pic or it didn't happen

>> No.9312553

>rewatching shit I loved as a teen with mel
this is nice

>> No.9312606

>>9312553
Agreed, comfy stream

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>>9312227
Iirc it's been nearly five years since he last parroted nazi propaganda, so people just kinda forgot.

>> No.9312667

>>9312613
If the last shitty thing you said was 5 years ago then it shows some effort to change

>> No.9312760

>>9312613
>nazi propaganda
He parroted the New York Times, if I'm remembering right. Less his problem and more an issue with news outlets not vetting the drop outs that work for them.

>> No.9312811

Shit I just realized now I have to keep Sykkuno's stream open just in case mouse hops on for some games, how could this happen

>> No.9312872

>>9312811
godspeed anon. i just wouldn't watch though

>> No.9312913

>Mel thought the movie with a talking cat was called Birdemic
cute

>> No.9312917
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9312917

>What's the name of the movie?
>"A talking cat"
>Yeah the one with a talking cat, what's the name?

>> No.9312954

>>9312917
Third base!

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cute

>> No.9313521

>>9313377
As always

>> No.9313716

Mel raiding AiCandii. She's in

>> No.9313942

>>9313716
She has been doing a lot of NA tz streams recently as well, would not surprise if she is in.

>> No.9314151

>>9312613
he did the right thing, just shut up and move on. people will forget you said some stupid shit if you don't try to defend yourself.

>> No.9314240

>>9313716
>>9313942
Anyone ever seen Mowtendoo pop up in her chat? That might be a good indicator. He's there now but idk if he came from the Mel raid

>> No.9314306

Give me your favorite flops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsgMvoFQ2IM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spi6yOS6zy4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE

>> No.9314398

>>9314306
Acting like SEISO isn't the banger of a generation

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>>9302918
Comfy stream tonight.

>> No.9314542

>>9314502
indeed, glad to see Mel streaming more often again

>> No.9314714

https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1434708339892662272

this is peak snuffy

>> No.9314721 [DELETED] 

And now for something completely different

https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1434708339892662272

>> No.9314739

>>9302986
Stan for zen, I appreciate!

>> No.9314785

>>9314714
LMFAO

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>>9303016

this but without concent

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>>9314714
>>9314721

>> No.9314837

>>9314714
like him or not, Eminem is spitting straight facts here

>> No.9314857

>>9314714
I hate that I now know what the Harkness test is

>> No.9314858

>>9314814
Sexuhara 100%

>> No.9315088

>>9314792
I would hatefuck her for kissing OTV ass

>> No.9315100

Mouse playing DBD with Sykkuno

>> No.9315126
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9315126

Are you guys friendly here?

>> No.9315154

corpse and mouse in the same call, lmao

>> No.9315429

>>9315154
It's happened before.

>> No.9315525

>>9315429
oh yea weren't they in the same amogus lobby once

>> No.9315557

>>9315525
She was playing with him and the OTV group either last week or the week before. Gartic phone I think.

>> No.9315592

>>9315557
Then, & they've played DBD before this. Similar group.

>> No.9315647

How was Mousey's Youtube stream today? I completely forgot it was happening.

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9315661

Football caretaker here.
Managed to shove in Mel into soccer(our team on right), so at least we are guaranteed players faces as cards.
Will now be breaking my head how to implement full face into team, ideally full body.

>> No.9315665

>>9315647
Delayed till next week

>> No.9315689

>>9314398
It's basically the song English vtubers use to hype themselves up before streams.

>> No.9315695

>>9315126
we are friendly if you are too.

>> No.9315697

>>9315661
o7

>> No.9315799

>>9306351
>doesn't have a schedule
>doesn't even stream 3 days a week
>still gets comparable viewers(has more average viewers in his last three streams than mouse (with OTV)even when he doesn't get raided like mouse)

>his fan vods channels(junxeno) has more views than her official vods channel even comparable to her main channel
>his second channel for stream highlights has more views than her main channel

how is he not more popular than mouse?

>> No.9315801

>>9315665
Oh shit. She sick?

>> No.9315837

>>9315801
Sykunno invited her to play DBD with him

>> No.9315851

>>9315801
Plasma shortage. Donate if you can : https://www.plasmahero.org/

>> No.9315861

>>9315801
Her plasma is late, not sure if she got it yet, she's playin DBD right now, seems kinda low energy

>> No.9316025

>>9303767
SAVED

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>>9315126
always, almost to a fault
there's probably some canadian influence here

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>>9302918
My friend's sister just turned 18, and you know what that means!

She can get a Nyanners tattoo.

>> No.9316373

racoon live

>> No.9316517
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My friends bully me for liking Froot, but I must persist!

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>>9315695
>>9316322
nice i'll lurk a bit

>> No.9317105

I love the suit guy

>> No.9317283

So who here wants to have an archive channel or something. I don't want that responsibility it frightens me but I can share the vods I have that aren't around elsewhere for someone else to do it if they like.

>> No.9317303

Do you like the new Melody song? You can be honest with me.

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>>9315661
Btw, this is current Roster.
If you want to give feedback or replace player, this is probably your last chance.

>> No.9317430

>>9316373
Will she continue SOMA?

>> No.9317476

>>9317430
Probably not tonight since it's Tiktoks

>> No.9317581
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I want to have 3 kids with Snuffy!

>> No.9317592

Who the fuck is this...

>> No.9317626

Mizkif now in snuffys chat

>> No.9317643

>>9317581
i have a feeling she's fertile type and can easily pop out 8+ kids

>> No.9317680

>>9317626
Don't see him in the viewerlist

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>>9317680
check again?

>> No.9317727

>>9303288
Her fans or /vt/? Because honestly her viewer count stays about the same.

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>>9317724
Gonna need a timestamp or something else

>> No.9317809

>>9317765
looks like he left

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I like Snuffy's TikTok streams because I don't have the time to look at the site myself but this was probably the most compelling content I've seen today

>> No.9317829

>>9317809
At least tell me what he said in chat

>> No.9317850

>>9317825
These treadmill races are something else

>> No.9317853

>>9317626
can you fucking stop posting about him
jesus christ

>> No.9317879

where do i get a naruto suit

>> No.9317891

>>9317829
don't remember, can't scroll up.

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>>9317581
I'll have 4 just to spite you.

>> No.9317905

>>9317853
why not?

>> No.9317907

>>9317879
I didn't want to post about it myself but the Naruto suit was fucking fly as hell and I want one too

>> No.9317911

>>9317891
Oh, gotcha
Shut your fucking dumb mouth, than

>> No.9317962

>>9317907
Naruto suit sounds like the most fag shit

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>>9317962
Your fucking loss dweeb

>> No.9318024

>>9317962
post your suit

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I love this trash panda

>> No.9318151

>>9317905
I could tell you in length but it would just end up being a timeloop. If you care about thread quality, don't bring up OTV or Connor unless it's absolutely fucking necessary.

>> No.9318211

>>9318010
That tie. Goddamn. I want one.

>> No.9318254
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9318254

I want to cum inside of Nyatasha Nyanners' soft ears.

>> No.9318270

Snuffy just wants to live with mama and dad...

>> No.9318282

>>9318151
Because this board is full of schizos that think these girls are here for their own personal entertainment so its great offense when they stream with other people outside of VShojo... especially men.

>> No.9318299

>>9318270
It's cute. Cute! That being said I always read it more as her wanting to be able to support them but not being so big that she can support both herself and them. Being close to them is just an extra benefit

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>>9318270

>> No.9318357

>>9318282
Yeah that's why, not because those men are obvious leeches or people who hate VTubers or make Mousey's stream a fucking bore to watch since she's completely overwhelmed by them...

>> No.9318361

>>9318010
Too much anime on the suit, it should be more subtle like the jojo suits.

>> No.9318385

>>9318361
I think the pocket square is a bit much but the tie and the pin are great

>> No.9318435

>>9318357
You've clearly never watched her stream with Connor...

>> No.9318468

>>9318435
Hate to say it anon but there are people who hate Connor too. I'm one of those people who only don't like the OTV collabs because Mouse is lower energy during them but she's at full power in a Connor collab which is why they're so great.

>> No.9318478

>>9318435
You just don't get it anon!
Them being completely candid and laughing their asses off with each other is all staged!

>> No.9318480

>>9318385
Great, so you like the two things that are actually not the suit itself

>> No.9318512

>>9318480
The accessories make the set. It's a pretty standard jacket aside from that and the accessories are good therefore the suit is good.

>> No.9318541

based snuffy cat

>> No.9318558

Snuffy cat update: Kimchi still fucking loves sniffing her panties

>> No.9318561

>>9318357
You should be happy she's branching out, a year ago she would never. She's come such a long way its just heart warming to see. Like right now she's playing with Sykunno and Corpse, two of the biggest streamers, laughing and having a good time. As a fan of mouse for the past couple years this just makes me so happy for her

>> No.9318566

I want to be snuffy's cat...

>> No.9318583

>>9318561
>a year ago she would never
If only I could go back...

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Kimchi is so into Snuffy...

>> No.9318694

>>9318583
Hoping someone's success is limited just because you don't want them to change is possessive.

>> No.9318786

>>9318558
My cats fucking love my underwear. Not surprising.

>> No.9318814

>>9318694
Not that anon but really all I want out of this new story arc is for her to not put scheduled things aside to do it because I feel like it's affecting her in other ways talking about how she's falling behind on work. This week's not a great example of that because the obvious huge thing fucked everyone up and stole a few days from everyone but even last week she mentioned having fallen behind on stuff when she would put scheduled things aside to collab with them. Just put it on the schedule and keep it limited to that day or something lol.

>> No.9318818

>>9318357
You're right. The reasons you stated are not why at all. Unless you're a schizo.

>> No.9318890

>>9318814
She has not yet put aside any big event for the sake of the OTV group. Mel, yes, OTV no.

>> No.9318954

>>9318694
I think it's normal to be disappointed when something that used to bring you joy is changing for the worse. I come to Mousey stream for Mousey and the people around her that I know, not random annoying male shitters.
I literally donate to some male streamers because I find them entertaining, but that doesn't mean I would want to hear them when I go to watch a Mousey stream.

>> No.9318968

>>9318890
I just want a normal chatting stream with Mouse, something that hasn't happened in a month...

>> No.9319013

>>9318890
Big events no which is good and I don't think she would but stuff like the fanart stream and the space and bird stuff is like 3 weeks late now because I'm assuming she views them as less important disposable streams but then they don't go away and just keep hanging over your head as something you've got to get done. And really I wouldn't care if Mouse was herself during these streams because it'd be replacing good content with good content lol.

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Don't know who Kuroh is but there's this really nice pic with Silver and Yoclesh and them

>> No.9319258

>>9318954
>is changing for the worse.
Jesus Christ.

>>9318968
Keep in mind two things: the plasma shortage issues are going to be a thing and Mouse prefers to play with friends rather than alone. The first one nobody can help, the second one is all her and is how she's always been. She likes doing streams with Mel and Nyan and likes collabing with people from other agencies when she can get them. If Mouse had a choice she wouldn't have a solo stream unless it was something personal with her chat (big events, milestones, that kind of thing). Hell, on her schedules she rarely puts things on some days because she has no idea what she's going to do. This isn't just Mouse, but the streamers worry that their content is boring. No matter how often we tell them we love their content, they all think this and struggle with their "Just Chatting" streams worrying that they're boring us. Mouse is the social butterfly of the group and always will be and now she's getting more and more opportunities to explore her extroverted self. There are things I don't care for about the OTV group collabs, namely that she tends to restrict herself into something more mainstream acceptance (read: tones down her shit), but I have a feeling that won't last forever. She's just letting them get to know her first before she unleashes the Puerto Rican Satan on them. Just be patient.

>> No.9319288

>>9319258
If she went full boricua I wouldn't give a fuck who she collabed with it would be great.

>> No.9319295

>>9319258
>If Mouse had a choice she wouldn't have a solo stream unless it was something personal with her chat
This is complete bullshit. She's never said anything like this.

>> No.9319329

>>9319013
I think the fanart and punishment streams are things she wants to keep in the wings when she doesn't have anything else going on. Like I said in >>9319258, they all think they're boring, no matter how stupid that is. To her, having those in her back pocket are ideas she can use when there's no other plan. And, it's not exactly a bad idea to treat them like those kinds of things. They have a hard enough time coming up with content, so if you have some stuff in your pocket to use, it helps them.

>> No.9319339

I mean, maybe Mouse just wants to play with a large group of people without the pressure of being the streamer - you have to admit the Vshojo girls haven't been too great at all getting together to play some silly games together lately. And maybe expanding the group could help that and allow for more off the cuff big ol multiplayer gaming.

>> No.9319378

>>9319339
Oh if she does it offstream I don't give a fuck anyone complaining about that is an autist lol

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wait snuffy went 2d? what a downgrade...

>> No.9319427

>>9319288
Honestly I'd enjoy the shit out of that, too. If they want to like Mouse, they can like her when she drops a few of her whimsical thoughts about being dicked by a Predator.

>>9319295
She hasn't said anything like that, but it isn't complete bullshit. She's a social extrovert who made a talk show so she could do collabs with more people and routinely is the one making overtures to other agencies for the same. She's also said she wants to be friends with a large variety of people and do things with them. It's not an insane concept that she prefers to do streams with someone over flying solo.

>> No.9319470

>>9319426
You're like 4 months late

>> No.9319516

>>9319426
She has and still uses 3d more frequently. But it's after midnight on a Sunday so she probably wants to take things casual.

And Snuffy just doesn't like to wash her hands after pissing. Wow.

>> No.9319569

>>9319258
>Jesus Christ.
I see, I guess differing opinions aren't worth acknowledging? Have fun having this type of discussion again and again every thread for weeks on end man.

>> No.9319588

>>9319516
>still uses 3d more frequently
that's nice, I liked her redesign so it was doubly off putting to see the old one as well
still has better rigging than 80% of vtubers lul

>> No.9319719

https://twitter.com/Chernogre/status/1434716254292647937

That wiggly Silvervale gif is wonderful.

>> No.9319753

>>9319569
Okay, I'll make you a deal: stop whining and bitching about "muh opinions bruh" and I'll stop calling you out on your extreme alarmist doom and gloom bullshit. Deal?

>> No.9319794

>>9319427
>She's a social extrovert who made a talk show so she could do collabs with more people

She is an extrovert in nature, but obviously still insecure because of all the shit she has gone through

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>>9319753
>"i prefer mouse streams to be about mouse somewhat"
>extreme alarmist doom and gloom bullshit

>> No.9320130

Oh right I mentioned this last night but I cleaned up my reactions folder so if anyone wants some then here you go https://www.mediafire.com/file/ngq5idbed0yhkov/dumb_stuff.7z/file It shrunk down from a little over 500 to a little over 400 but yeah.

>> No.9320552

>>9319794
Well sure, but it is also because of that shit she's gone through that she will do whatever she can. It is either do everything with people that makes her happy and feel less lonely or regress back into the lonely girl who can't leave her room and whatever. Her Precious Family is not being replaced and forgotten about because she plays with a larger group of people.

>>9319872
Didn't think you could do it. You just revel in being a whiny bitch whose ultimate goal is to emulate the fanbases that we generally loathe to control and possess their "oshi". Fuck you.

>> No.9320878

>>9320552
>we
Off yourself.

>> No.9320884

>>9320552
I'm sure the precious family that paid $5 for her patreon stream she canceled and didn't reschedule feel really appreciated since they got a bunch of OTV streams that apparently Mouse was in that month instead

>> No.9321069

>>9320884
I'm subbed to Mouse and I don't mind

>> No.9321258

confirmed: snuffy wants a vr haptic vest to use for long distance cyber sex

>> No.9321257

>>9318357
>not because those men are obvious leeches or people who hate VTubers
Mizkif is neither, he's got some good content

>> No.9321309

>>9317626
I missed the whole recent OTV and beeg twitch streamer collab thing Mouse did. Did she seem to mesh and get along with everyone? I know some anons said the chats were the usual "VTUBERS KEKW" spam, but how about the streamers themselves?

>> No.9321337

>>9318282
>these girls are here for their own personal entertainment
Amazing that allegedly professional entertainers who are being paid to entertain would be expected to be entertaining

>> No.9321395

>>9321309
Streamers themselves have always been fine from what I've seen.

>> No.9321474

>>9321309
She got along great with them, I think after being introduced to Mizkif she's kinda realized not everyone's content is just fake uwu-wholesome-positivity-feedback-loop style content that she's used to with Vtubers and OTV and it's something she'll probably have to get used to it if she plans on becoming a part of the larger streamer community.

>> No.9321520

>>9318954
>come to Mousey stream for Mousey and the people around her that I know
And eventually the males (like Connor) will be "people around her that you know".

>> No.9321572

>>9321474
Honestly I think I'd be much more open to Mousey's expansion plans if she chose to be with the side of the popular Twitch ethos that I personally enjoy, aka. Ludwig, Jerma, Schlatt and co.

>> No.9321597

>>9321520
The more I "know" about him the more I regret that Mouse is collabing with him.

>> No.9321624

>>9321395
>>9321474
Good to hear. >>9321474's point in paticular was what I was anxious over, because I know the whole wholesome friendly weeb vibe of vtubing communities, fake or not, doesn't mesh with the big names on twitch.

Flashbacks to that dating game Mel did with Destiny...

>> No.9321698

Snuffy listening to that one No More Heroes 2 song everybody loves and I forgot how much I loved it

>> No.9321733

>>9321698
>she didn't know it was on steam

>> No.9321903

>>9321624
Dunno why they even let that happen. Destiny's so anti-weeb, anti-vtuber, hell, anti-playing a character in general that no collab with a vtuber would be beneficial to either party.

Hasan would probably try to fuck one of the girls, though I hear he ain't a fan of vtubing either.

Honestly, just stay away from the political twitch personas, and their golden.

>> No.9321935

>>9320878
Yes, "we", whiny bitch. The "we" that were here during the bullshit gatekeeping Holobronies pulled to try to keep Veibae from collabing with their dear sweet Kiara whom most of them can't stand to begin with. The "we" that opposed that bullshit at every turn who do not want to turn to that kind of faggotry just because we've got a paranoid bug up our ass over Mousey collabing with people we don't like. (You), on the other hand, are a selfish prick only concerned with himself, just like those faggots "we" hated.

>>9320884
Hey, guess what? You don't have to financially support her if she does things you don't like. What a concept. You won't be missed.

>> No.9321955

>>9321903
>Hasan would probably try to fuck one of the girls
No, they'd be trying to fuck him. That's how it is 100% of the time.

>>9321624
I think she just needs to get used to shit talk. I know she can do it to someone being a shitter in chat but it didn't seem like she knew how to mesh with his banter, I think she'll pick it up though

>> No.9322002

They really should just rename vt to /eceleb/

>> No.9322074
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BIG HAND

>> No.9322094

Its weird how people go
>vshojo is just twitch thots, they don't fit in the vtuber community
>mouse is good though
When since the start mouse is the one who keeps bringing all the drama ridden twitch normie streamers into the community

>> No.9322147

new thread
>>9322134
>>9322134
>>9322134

>> No.9322175

>>9322002
Believe it or not, threads outside of the VShojo ones exist. The girls (and any large Twitch VTuber) befriending with Twitch e-celebs was just the natural progression of being big and on Twitch, you should've seen it coming over a year ago when Melody was all over the normie Twitch-sphere. There's no way you thought Iron Mouse would just keep growing and collab solely with people half her size and within a bubble that only stifles her growth, right?

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