/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9261908
i didn't because i'm not a dumb normalfag who's never seen a brown anime girl before
thankfully this place isn't a lost cause yet since she seems relatively popular here vs elsewhere
also being hated on here is meaningless because if you listen to vocal minorities like on twitter you're doing it wrong

I don't want to watch blacks.
Nothing personel.

>>9261722
Sana has turned out to be the best chuuba in EN: she is funny, good at games, and really genuinely likes to stream and her audience.

for the same reason this board hated her before her debut
don't pretend you know better know, you are still shit

Avatar is the only thing that matters. The fate live2d gets the most viewers and simps.

>>9261722
Reddit and Twitter failed to defeat racism. Ask them to fix it.

by not making the most of her talent by focusing on drawing streams when she doesn't have the hyper gremlin energy or dommy mommy persona or music chops or autistic gamer skills or schizo menhera antics to fall back on

>>9261722
She has brown skin. What's so fucking difficult to understand?

>>9261898
Shr is like Kiara but not a numberfag

>>9262114
That wouldn't be a problem if it was a good design with a good colour palette, but it isn't.

>>9261722
>Anonymous 09/05/21(Sun)00:13:56 No.92
>SEAs don't like dark shinned chubbas
>Accent filters eol fans
Also, their management isn't doing her any favors by putting her in the worst time slot considering her target audience probably overlaps too much with other EN members.

>>9261722
Youtube continued to nuke her subs and even people with live subs got auto unsubcribed multiple times.
Susan hates her for some reason.

>>9261722
Quality =! Popularity

>>9261722
Racism

>>9261722
She is fine, already on her way beating Mumei $21k

>>9261722
her accent is cute

Kronii and Ceres hit the sweetspot for me, but I still adore Sana. She's a sweetheart and absolutely deserves the best.

>>9261722
Unironically racism

>>9261722
No JP viewers

>>9261722
Aussie debuff

>>9265222
This. Its exotic for native English speakers but its probably hard to follow for JP viewers.

>>9265396
Not only that, but she's on the opposite side of the planet from most English speakers. When she's awake, North America is asleep.

>>9261722
She’s irys 2.0

>>9261722
time zones

>>9261826
Okay staff

time zones and susan hates recommending her streams to me

sana was my oshi but after the supacha stream she’s on my shitlist

I know you autists numberfag all the time, but I genuinely thought she didn’t care. It’s such a huge fucking disappointment she was conscious of it the entire time and it depressed her so much she even cried about it. So she has lower numbers than her peers, why the fuck should that matter?
Her roommate had a stream viewer ship of 300 max, now sana has a solid 3k average at least per stream.

Do you know how many nijis or other vtube girls try so hard to even hold onto 100 viewers? She’s so fucking ungrateful bros, just as bad as kiara’s mememe bullshit. She only feels validated as a VTuber if she gets money? Fuck that man, worst girl I hope she rots

>>9266955
Kys

>>9266955
>I care about numbers even more than she does
Congratulations

>>9261722
Sana actually has common decency and is a sweet talented girl. She's getting outwhore'd by Kronii.

>>9267007
Susan didn’t sabotage, Sana is just garbage. She doesn’t appreciate her viewers and they’re leaving

>>9266955
a flood of simp money would bring anyone to tears

>>9267081

>>9267036
ungrateful

>>9261722
racist white dude here.
no idea, i actually watch her.

>>9266955

Vtubers are not immune to human psychology. People always compare themselves to their peers, pointing out their objective success compared to the entire human species does nothing to remove those subjective feelings. It's just like how a professional athlete will get upset if they're "underpaid" even though they still make millions of dollars a year.

>>9261722
>HOW
Brown skin debuff.

It’s genuinely weird that she’s stuck at sub 200k. Did it take this long for anyone In gen 1 to but +200k?

>>9261722
People have shit taste

>>9268511
quite the opposite since her skin color reminds them of shit so that's why people avoid her

>>9266955
tis hard for many of them being last. kiara and aki both did, that i know of. i feel for them and can only hope they can get past it with their fans support after some time.

One of the few things I have managed to do was free myself from comparing myself to others. It's a great relief, but people with that mentality are also probably not the kind of people who have the ambition to make it into hololive, so it will likely be a regular thing.

>>9268636
Thanks for the (you) anon, you even proved my point for me too.

>cutest of her gen
no
>most talented of her gen
yes, but she will not use it
>lowest viewership of her gen
there's always one

>>9261722
To be honest, with the time slot she chose to stream, I couldn't catch a single one live to watch.

>>9266955
You're either incredibly stupid or this is just bait. She was overwhelmed by the realisation that people enjoy what she enjoys you dumbass. Go back and listen to what she said more clearly. Otherwise I'm glad you dropped her because she doesn't need anyone so easily swayed and disloyal like you.

>>9261722
I'm sorry she just streams at bad hours for me, and nothing bad against her, she just doesn't grip me so I don't feel the desire to watch archives.

>>9261722
Doesn't help that she has shown to misunderstand basic fundamentals of space, while being the SPACE Holo. It's actually embarrassing.

>>9268936
I wonder what it must feel like, going from being an artist who is only known through their art but unknown as a personr, to directly communicating with a big audience as a streamer.

>>9269035
>basic fundamentals of space
No one knows anything about space. What is space? You will only get tautological answers because no one has been able to quantify space. Most physics phenomena can be broken down to individual components and their interactions but space defies that, it's not matter or energy there are no particles or waves, space just is as this uniform "thing" that has properties and attributes without a cause.

>>9269167
she is into astrology bro.
We aren't talking about discussing string theory, æther, space time or dark energy or some other cutting edge theory here.

Out of the global population of English-speaking chuuba enjoyers, Sana's avatar filters out not only racists, but also normal people who hate the insufferable fanbase of darkskinned anime girls. That leaves you with virtue-signalling antiracists, who are mostly in North America where they get filtered out by the fact that Sana streams during ANZAC-Jap-SEAniki hours. Blame Omega for giving the dark skin debuff to the Ozzie instead of a Los Angeleno or something.

>>9269370
>she seems relatively popular here vs elsewhere
Because they found out who she is (not actually black), and she grew on people after debut. Before debut though, she was hated here pretty strongly. I guess you could say she had to work for it.

>>9269412
I think most racists like Sana. Try to figure that one out.

Due to my timezone I am watching her superchat party in the archives right now and when she opened the superchat it was the most adorable thing ever.
Thanks to all of you here that sent her a superchat as I couldn't make it.

She obviously cried because she was oberwhelmed by all that support. She is trying to do her thing and seeing how much people enjoy it would make everyone happy. Her tears were not about the numbers.

>>9261722
>dated design
>brown
>bushman accent
>horrible voice
>can't sing
>a fucking horoscope basic bitch
I wonder why.

>>9269743
She made 18.7k in superchat.

>>9269822
And how is that impressive at all when she is part of HoloEN?

>>9261722
>>cutest of her gen
Mumei
>>most talented of her gen
Rat
>>lowest viewership of her gen
Sana

1/3 you tried

>>9269476
>I think most racists like Sana.

>>9269841
Because she got almost as much as mumei and more than the rrat and the deer despite having like half their subscriber count.

>>9269743
>dated design
zoomer
>brown
normalfag
>bushman accent
filtered
>horrible voice
shit taste
>can't sing
0 utawakus
>a fucking horoscope basic bitch
brainlet who can't take abstract concepts like human personality from incomplete frameworks

>>9269864
>talented
>Rat
What's her talent? I really want to like the rat, but currently I think she is very boring.

>>9269869
I'm racist and Sana is my oshi but i don't think that's related

>>9269476
If you think "anime brown" denotes blackness, you haven't seen enough anime. That's what's going on.

>>9269993
I haven't watched her streams but she seems entertaining, has a great voice with a funny accent and can sing. She's got talent for sure.

Most people who like sana are libtards

>>9270271
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHH POLITICS
Find something more interesting to care about.

>>9261722

She has a lot of talent, but she chose to be brown

Expect not to have great numbers and thats literally natural and normal

>>9270391
Kys tranny you’re the reason every country is turning into a shithole

>>9270473
lmao I'd never become a tranny, stop projecting

I hope Sana gets more popular. I want her to have success

>>9261722
her debut intro is legendary I legit downloaded it and play it daily

>>9270414
>but she chose to be brown
Kiara confirmed models are usually done before you're casted.

Bogan accent that makes her sound like human garbage.

rat and sana's accent sounds so different despite them both being australian apparently

>>9261722
>expect a gyaru
>dont get a gyaru
>unsub
Its that simple

>>9270587
Kiara is retarded, HoloEn avatars are by the most part done by their talents

And if a talend didnt want to get brown skin she could have made it happen

>>9270658
rat is a shitty city girl from the east coast, sana is a sandgroper. rat is a dime a dozen here, sana is rare.

I don't get you faggots with the "skin" debuff, have you cunts never heard of gyaru/ganguro? Gyaru manga and anime has been pretty big for the last four or five years, Sana's design is blatantly following that trend. Are people ending up on /vt/ without spending anytime on /a/ or /jp/?


>>9270658

Regional accents, why don't all the US states sound the same? Even a small island like Britain has a ton of varients.

>>9270712
Does sandgroper mean rural?

>>9270688
>Don't get a gyaru

What did you want to get?

Her voice/accent is garbage tier.

>>9270741
a gyaru

>>9261722
Honestly. It's probably because she's brown. She could be the sweetest, kindness, more interesting girl in the world but her Pako made her look like a street shitter and that's basically gg in a medium where the visual aspect of the character is of the utmost importance for first impressions.

tfw like her design a lot

>>9270753

Be specific faggot. If Sana is not a Gyaru what attributes is she lacking?

>cunts out here still complaining about brown skin
How new are you to 2D women?

>>9270816
gyaru attributes

>>9270816
Class, sass and an attitude. And a better design.

>>9270878
It's just not attractive, bro. If it was then there'd be more characters with brown skin.

>>9270927
You don't think tanned matuli is hot?

>>9270706
>Source: anon's ass

>>9270955
Correct. TANNED matsuri is hot,Sana is not tanned

>>9270955
>Tanned.
See, now that's a can of worms because liking tanned chicks is an implicit liking of pale chicks. You can't have a tanned brown girl right? She has to be pale, get some sun and then become tanned because of that. Even then the best part of tan is the contrast between the pale skin and the brown skin.

>>9270886
>Can't name anything

>>9270887
>Lists random traits that aren't core to gyaru archetype

Newfags. I bet Gal-ko is the only gyaru you could name without googling it.

>>9270878
This place is a subreddit, so some are very new to it

>>9270927
I don't like Sana but chocolate girls are delicious.

>>9270999
They should've commissioned Sana design to Nitocris artist, not pako. Or the genius of brown girls himself.

>>9270999
I dunno, man. Nito is a fine colour but Bedwarmer is an absolute travesty of coloration and Namaniku ATK should be ashamed of his life choices.

>>9270992
What now?

I like brown skin but her face is too long. Long faces are a masculine attribute, it's not cute.
She also isn't very articulate and looking at her past life she has no streaming experience.
But they never fire a vtuber as it's bad press so they will train her up until she can do a passable job.
I gave her a $50 sympathy sc as I felt sorry for her and she got $10k total so not bad.

>>9271059
>What now?
Pako do the right thing and give us the pale version of Sana then do what Hirokazu Koyama did and show us those amazing tanlines.
A girl that is 99% brown skin with 3 small stars on her arm is still essentially just brown until proven otherwise.
It's all about the contrast, anon.

>>9261722
racism is real

>>9262635
Management doesn't choose time slots.

>>9269329
Astrology is just for fun. I bet you hate Mio's fortune telling too.

>>9261722

>>9261722
Unironically because of black skinned model.
This is really only it. Maybe some small offset of people also think she is gonna act like a whore because of 2d titties.

>>9261722
'Dark-skinned foreign girl who appears childish but is surprisingly competant' is always a cute addition to every harem manga/anime they appear in but they are never a serious contender to win the bowl.

>>9261722
Success and talent never had any correlation. Everything is luck based.

>>9269743
i'm probably biased as an aussie but i love her accent

>>9261722
She get both the racist debuff for lookiing black and the SJW debuff for being a black character voiced by a white person.

>>9271377
>white person.

>>9271446
Don't be that harsh on australians.

>>9271499
>australians
just because she lives in Australia doesn't mean she's white

>>9271573
I know. Not like I myself would allow a thought that australians are white. We just pretend they are.

Here's my theory as to why she's dark-skinned.
Living in space for billions of years would probably give you quite the tan.

>>9261722
Honestly prefer her to maintain average viewership/niche market. Having a large viewership tends to pander to shit tier reddit cringe pogguchampu memes.

I love how comfy her streams are right now.

>>9261722
>cutest of her gen
Objectively false.
>Most talented
Maybe but only if she just reveals the roommate's power level already instead of playing kusoge and doing the horoscope shit that only SEA girls are into.
>Lowest viewership of her gen
Black, humongous titties for no reason at all, black.

>>9271110
i thought she got 18k.

>>9271110
She got over 18k, third place just behind Mumei (despite shitty timezone)

Cope harder egg

>>9271254
Don't tribalfag with my oshi

>>9261722
Have you ever thought that maybe you're objectively wrong?

>>9261722
>lowest viewership of her gen
Don't you mean the rat?

>>9271270
ngl modest tiddies type looks cuter especially brown ones.

>>9261722
mumei is cuter and a better artist
https://files.catbox.moe/khlirh.webp

>>9270473
t. Watches tranny porn

>>9261722
People are stupid

>>9262635
anon shes australian, timeslots arent her fault

>>9262635
>putting her in the worst time slot
What the fuck? The managers didn’t chain her to Australia, you drooling retard. They don’t ‘put’ the talents in time zones, they fucking live there.

>>9266955
>get emotional when you realize people show you affection like your peers despite struggling with insecurity and being vulnerable enough to admit that
>add her to your shitlist

I think this really sums up that no matter what you do, no matter what it's about, someone will always be pissed at your actions no matter what

>>9266955
please please please jump off a building

>>9266955
congrats, you are the retard of the day

>>9266955
You interpreted that in the worst way possible.

Were you raised as a pig or what?

>>9266955
You wasted digits on such drivel anon?
kys

>>9261722
It doesn't help that she seems to keep having technical issues, most of which seems to be out of her hands. It's starting to happen to much to be a coincidence.

>>9269035
Yeah because Mumei represents civilization so accurately right. No one cares about muh lore.

>>9276536
He means she switched from a good spot, to test a bad spot. Obviously she won’t stay in the bad spot in the future. She certainly didn’t trust it enough to do superchat on it, which means she likely understands now.

>>9272184
>cute
>objective
No, that is subjective.

>>9267181
>It's just like how a professional athlete will get upset if they're "underpaid" even though they still make millions of dollars a year.
There’s way more professional athletes are that extremely grateful for being able to make millions of dollars despite being essentially nameless forgettable nobodies

>>9266955
>WTF WHY DOES THIS PERSON HAVE SELF DOUBTS? WHY IS SHE NERVOUS AS A NEW MEMBER OF HOLOLIVE?
kys. I'm not a sociopath so I enjoy seeing a streamer as honest about her feelings as Sana

>>9269869
I like Sana, she filters ESL brownies hard due for two main reasons

Her skin tone is not exotic to them

Her accent filters them

It's really simple, her voice.

>>9269329
She literally brought up string theory during Interstellar, anon. Of the council members, she's easily the most knowledgeable of her chosen subject, so it's kind of absurd to bash her in that regard while giving her genmates a pass.

>>9266955
>The day anon was put on /vt/'s shitlist for putting Sana on his for retarded reasons.

>>9261722
when gen 5 debuted, nene was falling behind so I gave her a sub in support even though I didn't plan to watch her, turns out nene is fucking amazing.
I did the same for EN2, she turned out great, you just need to give some people a chance when they are falling behind

>>9274830
There's a slim chance he could have come here to laugh at OP, not Sana, right?

>>9266955
"was my oshi" that's not how it works
I bet you change oshis every 2-3 month, who was your previous one, someone from EN1 and you got bored of her?

>>9269822
>>9269875
Don't bring number faggotry here, anon.

>Sana is ungrateful!
>Makes sure to thank even her fans that didn't SC

>>9267163
fucking based

>>9261722
She streams at awful times for north america too often.

>>9266955
Christ what a miserable cunt you are

>>9266955
Add me to the screenshot

>>9261722
'ate niggers
'ate straya cahnts
'ate twintails

>>9289716
You've gone too far

>>9261722
>cutest
>looks like a rejected 80s hentai design
no.

>'ate niggers
>'ate straya cahnts
>'ate twintails

>>9290416
go back to facebook newfag

>>9271059
What is white ink, anon?
She's black.

>>9291044
Every black person in anime that's drawn by a gook, chinc, or jap, always has the nigger lips because the bugmen are based in their own ways. Sana has no nigger lips, therefore, not nigger.

>>9261722
>cutest of her gen
No
>most talented of her gen
Talent doesn't always reflect popularity
>lowest viewership of her gen
People don't watch her as much
>HOW
People don't like her as much

Life isn't always fair, if you like her that much just support her yourself and hope that others will follow.

>>9291044
But her roommate isn't... so that would make it really racist and problematic.

>>9291662
>that would make it really racist and problematic
Hopefully this catches on and Cover is forced to give Sana the white skin she deserves.

>>9261722
It's seriously the hairstyle. I can handle twin braids if it's naturally laying behind the shoulders but plastic twintail earplugs are the bane of my existence and I'm nota pedo so the more natural looking high twintails that children wear doesn't appeal to me.

>>9271032
i think this woulda gone allot better yeah. i mean she isn't irys tier, but def the weakest model of her genm8's

I can tell the people who bitch about her face's design are underage and haven't watched anime from merely 15 years ago

>>9271225
i don't hate it but i also don't watch it. i don't care if she does astrology, i was just saying that anyone who does believe has a, lets say very different, understanding of the universe from the mainstream rather than a misunderstanding of the most advanced details.

>>9284294
i didn't watch that stream, and I don't claim to understand string theory. I give the others a pass cause they hardly pretend to give a shit about their subjects out of the occasional joke.

I don't watch her much for other reasons personally, i was just pointing out how silly was for taking the most esoteric definition of space he possibly could, for a girl who has planets in her hair and compares her tiddies to Jupiter.

>>9261722
Normalfags are unironically racist. They just won't say it to your face.

>>9261722
her design reminds me of my tan tomboy doujinshi stash and the heavy accent only
accentuates my penis and her personality being cute is the cherry on top, thank you Pako

>>9267181
Then maybe she should try hard and do extremely basic things to improve her numbers such as streaming during good hours.
She can't go and start crying about having shit numbers if she's the one debuffing herself.

>>9292947
a problem is also over 150k people dont even know shes streaming thanks to susan unsubbing them

>>9293008
Doesn't seem like an issue for all the others.

>>9269869
Hey /vt/, Racist here. I like Sana because she's Big, Huge even. She's brown but not too brown. Only problem really is like others have said, her hours are ass, since most EN viewers are in the US, not Bushland

>>9269412
>but also normal people who hate the insufferable fanbase of darkskinned anime girls
What

>>9270473
They live rent free in your head, damn

hate australian accents on accents
sounds so low class

>>9293279
She started off streaming when the US was awake for the first week, then only tested a few other times out. Given that she did much better when the US was awake, even doing her superchat at that time, it’s very likely she keeps streaming those hours. Abandoning them right after SC would be very strange.

>>9261722
we've gone over this every single day.
it's the brown debuff

>>9271032
Pako's fine.
Problem is that for some godforsaken reason they decided to make him do something kawaii uguu rather than something "cool" which is what he exceeds at.

>>9294068
Bae seems like she'd suit a Nobu-like design.

>>9292947
it's nice for some streamers to be on during non ideal hours, but you will never become number one doing that ofc. i think it is fine though as she is obviously doing well enough anyways.

>>9292573
i think being dark is just part of a larger issue with her design. like plenty of dark anime girls are popular. Shauna/iris (pokemon), bastet (puzzles and dragons), chloe(fate), nagatoro, ect.

for me the massive spindly childish dango twin-tails conflict with her realistic adult proportions and hyper developed body. proper adult proportions evn whne they are supposed to be adults never look that great anime style anyways IMO unless you are going for something realistic/gritty.

that is to say nothing of the outfit which, while i have a hard time putting into words, seems the blue waist thing messes up her models lines and draws my eyes in awkward ways. choker looks off on her too.

>>9261722
She is the best, but her design is shit

Don't like very very monkey

>>9261722
Dark skin debuff, prison colony accent debuff, boring gen debuff

>>9266955
you are a fucking misrable nerd bro

I don't like her design

>>9294349
All he had to do was fucking genderbend Arjuna.