/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Look at that, HoloEN proving their failures as usual, and that Vshojo has managed to grow significantly instead. Really now, who would have thought that a group ridiculed by many vtuber fans are now rising above the "golden children". Karma baby, karma.

home sweet home

Top 100 Most Viewed Vtuber/Vsinger Original Songs of the Week(27 August 2021 - 03 September 2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0A_ZbH9xc8

- #1 this week is "Entertainer" by Rain Drops. Last time a Nijisanji track was #1 was back in June with "Virtual Strike". #2 is "Ijimeko (Bully)" by Calliope and #3 is "Unison" by Marine.

- Have to give a special mention here to HACHI of Live Union. She got a burst in sub growth rate this past month and it's being reflected in these weekly original song rankings. Last week, her song "Rainy Proof" got into the top 100; this week she got 3 songs in the top 100: #98 "Beyond the light", #91 "Rainy Proof", and #33 "Hachigatsu no Hotaru" (her newest song).

- Top 10 breakdown: 1 Nijisanji, 7 Hololive, 2 Kamitsubaki

- Top 25 breakdown: 1 Nijisanji, 19 Hololive, 5 Kamitsubaki

home sweet home

Baelz $ 5.6k in about 10 minutes

I think Baelz should have waited for the next day to start her monetization stream or at least waited for much longer. I don't think she'll get that much views and supahs as the others here.

>>9208996
It's always crazy just show much of the top 100 is just Hololive.

Rat (Hakos Baelz) started her 1st SC stream!
here is the way to see SC numbers in real time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwmOTPTXveQ

>>9208921
You dummy, you forgot your image!
>>9208830
Never did I think that someone take up to using Vshojo to shitpost in the numbers thread.
Well, baelz not pulling big numbers in her monetization stream given ongoing collabs and streams, sowe'll have to see what kind of numbers she gets for SCs.

>>9209090
She has a widespread viewership.

kek Susan killed Rat's stream

>>9209142
>Top 100
Hololive doesn't have enough members for that

Also, rip rrat

>>9209192
>Never did I think that someone take up to using Vshojo to shitpost in the numbers thread.
they add Vshojo in
https://piyo.chats.ninja/
so ppl will shitpost with twitch's broken numbers now to the point when you will dream of good old "Kuzuha mogging hololive" days

>>9209344
Hololive occupied 58/100 of the Top 100 this week.

>>9209152
Playboard didn't even detected that she is streaming

>>9208288
lmao the list is growing.
add this too

twitter bot
hololive
>https://twitter.com/holo_analytics
>https://twitter.com/holo_analyticsV
nijisanji
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://twitter.com/2434livemoment

>>9209465
Check again

>>9209465
check it again
it shows 3.800 now

>>9209453
from how many talents?

Baelz $8k (20 minutes)
She is doing better than expected

My prediction for SC early on was:
Kronii > Fauna > Hakos
I think it will be right.

>>9209596
Yeah, HoloEN2 will do just fine. Yes that means Sana, too.

>>9209596
of course, she has JOPs

Mizkif and Sykkuno raided Ironmouse.

>>9209596
>She is doing better than expected
Fauna got 17k SC and didnt even read them
Kronii almost beat Coco's record

>>9209631
>Fauna > Hakos
delusional>>9209692

>>9209692
Baelz is noticeably behind Fauna and Kronii in terms of viewers for her streams so far and is not primed for SCs the same way they are.

>>9209763
It’s my very early prediction, so I don’t want to change it.

>3.3 million subs shark backed by the most recognizable Vtuber company in the west
Vs
>one bedridden horny slut
THE ANSWER MIGHT SURPRISE YOU!
Deadsubs? Deadsubs

>>9209802
she said she'll read all of them so this may drag longer than both

>>9209865
called it>>9209411

>>9209582
25 individual talents, not counting group songs.

>>9209920
It's the same poster, anon. VShoufags stay in their general.

Baelz $ 9.8k (30 minutes)

>>9209865
Cringe >>9204314

>>9209865
So this is what kneeling anon do when kuzuha and hal failed to top the chart huh?

>>9210014
They have the right to care about numbers, although I doubt it’s actually VShojo fans. Which is kind of funny to me.

Why Pekora gets a relatively high number of dislikes? We all know the reason Matsuri and Aqua do, but what about here?

>>9210023
>>9209920
what's going to happen when YT adds this feature too?

>>9209582
HoloJP 32
HoloID 6
HoloEN 11
Holostars 9

Total 58

>>9209411
At least Vshoujo are females and speak English and some people here might theoretically watch them. Also everyone knows about the artificial spikes from twitch "raiding" so whatever the number is people will always expect it to actually be thousands lower, like a jump from 7k to 18k.

>>9210165
>what's going to happen when YT adds this feature too?
More bitching, with extra emphasis on SC.

>>9210165
I mean, raiding isn't exclusive to Twitch. Kronii did a small one to Fauna just the other day and apparently got bonked so she apologized.
It's generally frowned upon for Hololive.

>>9210165
This thread will finally die and you'll stop providing material for shitposters.

>>9210165
you always can check graph
https://piyo.chats.ninja/video/twitch/43162027212
raids are pretty obvious

>>9210165
YouTube already has raids.
https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/671434-youtube-live-redirect-how-to-raid-another-streamer

>>9210133
She has built up a bunch of hate over time by being the most popular vtuber in the world. it's a bunch of different things. No single one is particularly notable though. It's easily ignored.

>>9210165
I think it will be a good thing for the vtubers themselves, even if it makes numberfagging harder. I feel like a lot of times when someone stops streaming 90% of the audience just fucks off and whoever else in the company that is streaming gets like....400-1k of that audience only. If you could get like 30% of the people dumped into someone else's stream to stay it help them have better average numbers, more VOD views, and more exposure for smaller members. Of course it could also be embarrassing if Pekora or Marine sends everyone to Mel or Akis channel and then they all immediately leave anyway.

>>9210364
>since early December 2020
>the same time live view counts got fucked up site-wide
Interesting!

Baelz at $10k after 40 mins. $15k is possible.

>>9210364
>https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/671434-youtube-live-redirect-how-to-raid-another-streamer
Interesting. This will be a way for companies to boost live viewers and keep the viewers and money all to themselves. I can see Niji doing this, and Cover being forced into it by financial incentive.

>>9210364
it seems that only a few people have that option available

>>9210308
Twitch has a feature that actually does it for you, voluntary "raiding" (i.e. normal stream migration + being annoying about it) isn't special in that regard, it's the ability to move 100% of your audience instantly to someone else.

>>9210192
>Vshoujo are females and speak English and some people here might theoretically watch them.
so why ppl didnt use them as shitpost material?
>Also everyone knows about the artificial spikes from twitch "raiding"
will this stop shitters? im sure you know the answer

>>9210451
This will only work for HoloLive IF they schedule themselves right after someone else but we know a lot of them stream at the same time and even end at almost the same time. This can only work in a gen like how HoloFantasy give space for each other or how HoloCouncil is doing now, Myth can't do this because they stream so far apart of each other. You don't want to bring a raid to a JP Senpai if you're the EN Kouhai as well because you will look disruptive.

>>9210537
I think because they weren't included on those charts before. Also it's literally just 1 guy using them, if he left no one would even talk about it. There's multiple people that use the Niji Apex dude for their trolling and honestly I think of a one or two of them might be sincere and actually like and watch Niji males.

Baelz $ 11.6k (45min)

>>9210165
This thread will be meaningless

>>9210673
They don't have to do it all the time, just when it's opportunistically useful. Myth, Council, ID, IRyS can all use this amongst themselves. And then the JP side can circulate their own fans within their relatively narrow streaming window.

>>9210673
yeah, I can see this happening only between members of the same branch. Also it would be perfect to shill events like birthdays, anniversaries, new outfits, etc.

>>9210525
>it's the ability to move 100% of your audience instantly to someone else.
Imagine if during HoloEN Gen1, that Cover could move all the people from each outfit stream to each VTuber without being forced to lose them each stream. Like moving Gura’s 194k viewers after her outfit stream for example.

Does anyone for a moment think that Cover wouldn’t think to do it?

>>9210183
I wonder how these translate into sales for their music.
Suisei and Mori always chart, Watame sometimes if I recall.

>>9210681
>There's multiple people that use the Niji Apex dude for their trolling
this is annoying, but his numbers at least a honest work.
hope they will add average numbers to streams at charts

>>9209641
sana not even 200k subs its rip for her

>>9210828
I can see this happening for certain events. I agree. They do this manually already. Many would set up a 1hr stream right before a main event and then tell people to watch the chuuba right before they end the stream. Gura can do this for Irys since they are the only ones that really intersect. HoloCouncil can do this regularly since most of their streams are really close with each other

>>9210364
Not sure where they got that screenshot of the Live Redirect feature, but the official documentation says you can only redirect to a Premiere, not other people's streams.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/10359590?hl=en&ref_topic=9258085

>>9210354
Cope and seethe faggot. You're just mad that your memeshark is getting mogged but horny Twitch sluts

>>9211086
At least the KNEEL fag is creative with his bait. You are just a boring idiot.

>>9211046
>sana not even 200k subs its rip for her
we had discussion few thread ago. Susan apparently didn't delete their subs, but do not showing them

>>9205707
>He fell for meme
Nijisanji doesn't have that much more permissions than hololive, they are just less Anal about getting "proper" permissions like cover is so they react faster to trends.

>>9211046
I believe he meant SC, which is not based entirely on live viewer totals. I agree with him too, and predict Sana makes a lot in SC. She has very dedicated fans, so it would be wrong to underestimate it.

>>9211172
Dark Souls is the only interesting thing I've seen Niji EN play that I know Holos can't.

>>9211179
im surprised to see so much optimism about Sana's future in every numbers thread

>>9211179
We shall see whether or not her fans are poor hipster tumbler contrarians or true paypigs. If they don't bring in the cash we might not get another tan chuuba. Irys don't count because she cranked up her brightness settings

>>9211172
Nijisanji has more talents with a larger net of interests.
Both of them get permissions in roughly the same amount of time. But Nijisanji requests much higher volume of games due to their talent size.

>>9211158
link for the discussion? And where would they be with the non-hidden sub counts?

>>9211308
>Dark Souls is the only interesting thing I've seen Niji EN play that I know Holos can't.
wrong
holoEN can play Darksouls 2,3, by Calli/Ina's words (~April's info)

>>9205707
that's why you shouldn't listen to niji shitposters that don't even watch streams.

>>9211393
That's one of those they had to backtrack on. Ina originally intended to play it then the permissions fell through and she hasn't brought it up again.

>>9211179
she seems like she could care less about SCs because she already has her artist job like Ina

Baelz is actually getting a decent number of superchats, but not many big akasupas. Understandable considering she hasn't had as many opportunities to collect hardcore gachikoi. Baelz doesn't really exude that energy anyways.

>>9211380
It's repeated in most threads this week. Youtube has responded to the controversy of people losing subs with a cliche "we don't unsub people, they might just be hidden as we check for suspicious activity".
>And where would they be with the non-hidden sub counts?
No one knows for sure so any number you get is speculation at best.

>>9211336
I think Sana will react to SCs more like Ina, rather than cry and act shocked and whatever. Not the best for baiting SCs combined with her lower subs and viewship and bad streaming time and she'll probably be last.

>>9211380
here >>9094981

In other news, gifted memberships may come to YouTube.
https://twitter.com/Fwiz/status/1433111547983785986

>>9211331
It's mostly 1-2 anons and one of them keep calling her gyaru for some reason.

>>9211437
hm, i guess another
>holoJP can, other branches cannot
bullshit.
Kiara said that holoEN have such problem with square enix

>>9211500
I think she's getting college lunch money thus the amount of SCs. I was thinking she will get 15k min but it looks like it might be her max

>>9211612
There's also someone that keeps rigging poals for Sana, putting her significantly ahead of everyone else in Gen 2 even though based on comments, viewership, subs ect that's very very unlikely.

>>9211553
I wouldve wanted for Holos to use the raid feature instead honestly

>>9211336
>Irys don't count because she cranked up her brightness settings
The fuck? You know Irys got $24k in her 3rd overall stream right?
It was when she still had the skin color of a Mexican.

> If they don't bring in the cash we might not get another tan chuuba.
You know Flare is #10 all for vtubers right? She has more SC than Noel.

>>9211331
Sana has an ugly avatar. Flare's is way better

>>9211500
>And where would they be with the non-hidden sub counts?
i mean, we (number bros) can count them pretty easylly

Valoshit again... King pls, you're killing your numbers.

Kuzuha and Kanae playing valorant in the afternoon

>>9211804
If someone took snapshots of their sub counts and documented all the purges it would be relatively easy to figure out.

>>9211553
hope they will not add it.
>member's streams were a good gatekeep option for chubas

>>9211790
You haven't seen Flare's original model if you think Sana's looks worse. Also, model has barely any effect on SCs. Irys was universally panned and she got $24k for her SC announcement stream.

>>9211767
> She has more SC than Noel.
Noel fans know where to send their money to support Noel.

>Niji pre-show
>MarineFurea karaoke stream(?)
Who would win?

>>9211836
https://twitter.com/VALORANTjp/status/1433701504033050625

>>9211836
At least he's trying to branch out. Putting all your eggs in one basket in a rapidly changing medium is generally a bad idea, as many Overwatch streamers found out when that game fell off the face of the earth.

>>9211767
Flare has significantly lightened up her skin tone. Irys debuted alone so she got all the attention. If you have no other options, it's easier to make a choice. Many people also watch her because of her voice and personality not because of her model. It's like forcing yourself to relisten to a crappy song by your favorite band until you like it.

So, when do you think people will forget about HoloEN entirely? Since in Westetn streaming side, Vshojo is rather hot right now.

>>9211849
we ve got screen of every sub loss

>>9211836
>>9211839
https://twitter.com/VALORANTjp/status/1433701504033050625
Valorant tournament starting soon

>>9211947
People would forget about vshojo faster

>>9211900
VSPO getting some easy deals

Baelz $13k

Ollie Apex endurance (24h) stream
>4h in
>700 viewers
as oshi (matsuri) as fan

>>9212027
She might get her "other half" of SCs when she streams in her other time slot, but Baelz never felt like a massive SC getter from the get-go.

$13k isn't bad for vtuber standards anyways.

>>9211367
That's part of it, the other part is that unless the rights holder explicitly says that companies can't play this game they assume that they have permissions unless proven otherwise, whereas cover is more "unless we have explicit permissions we don't do shit" kind of company

>9211947
(you) are getting better shitter

>>9211853
>>9211553
If YouTube doesn't have a toggle option for this I would call them beyond retarded. If they allow for gifted subs, it HAS to be on a opt-in basis, just due to the nature of how Holomembers useemebrship streams right now.
Imo, if YT is smart (and I doubt they are in this case) they'll allow for two different tiers of gift memberships
-chat emote tier, where gifted memberships only give access to chat emotes
-normal baseline tier
Then again, I don't trust Yt not to botch the implementation regardless.

>>9212056
IDs have got an uphill battle ahead now council has debuted. There's 10 streams from chuuba channels I'm subscribed to happening right now (11 if you include Kson)

>>9210502
Cover has been doing this raiding thing since the beginning. If you havent notice theres always a big streamer stream (peko, marine, big collab) before a major event.

>>9212084
as KFP i feel like she will be another Kiara
>working hard
>getting a lot of SCs

>>9212084
13k is absolutely fine for a vtuber, even if its low among holo its still very strong.

I think Baelz will build up a fairly strong base over time, she's cute and strong in collabs.

>>9212212
She is extremely strong in collabs and that will really show once the ban is lifted. The way she handled and played off of Mumei's autism in the Minecraft stream yesterday was masterful. She is good.

>>9212184
I feel this will more be Sana than Baelz, though since she's last for superchat enabled streams I'm kinda worried about her.

>>9211612
>It's mostly 1-2 anons
Well I’m one of them. I think if I followed majority opinion I would be wrong too often. I do actually think Sana will get high SC.
My early prediction was:
Kronii > Fauna > Hakos.
If I were to add Sana in, it would go like this:
Kronii > Sana > Fauna > Hakos

I just have to wait and see. These sort of predictions are hard because you won’t find much support from others. Most people will think you’re crazy.

>>9212178
>IDs have got an uphill battle ahead
that's why she decided to commit suicide?

>>9212102
How did you come up with this idea that Anycolor plays loose with permissions while cover is overly cautious? Neither company get into trouble with permissions anymore.

>>9212181
Relays =/= Raids

Which Ceres stream did Kronii raided?

>>9212297
Mumei is going to have her SC Stream at 5PM EST. It's the weekend so this might play well for her. Sana doesn't have hers yet https://youtu.be/RQAlW4yR28k

>>9212297
you are fucking mad man

>>9212372
I actually haven’t figured out where to place Mumei yet

>>9212339
By Holo Standards it is. Most if not all ask their audience to watch the big event.
>>9212359
The SC stream

>>9212297
>If I were to add Sana in, it would go like this:
>Kronii > Sana > Fauna > Hakos
Jesus christ.
I like Sana, but this is an insane prediction for a SC announcement stream. Fauna only got $17k because she wasn't reading SCs in her stream, she would've gotten more if she did.
Sana has never even gotten more than 17k viewers since her debut, she's not beating $17k for her first SC stream. She's more likely to not do a special SC stream like Ina and just stream a normal game than make more than $17k.
Only possibly I can see happening is her monetization gets signficantly delayed because she's lagging behind all the others in subs and people feel bad so they SC more than expected.

>>9212415
>Reading SCs
easy second

>>9212372
> Same time as Gura's MC
At least she won't be streaming during Gura's public karaoke.

>>9212372
my bet is sana will be at a similar time as mumei.
She said the girls would be having their SC on the weekend on her virging stream

>>9212444
> By Holo Standards
The conversation was about YouTube raid system, not holo *raid* system.

>>9212478
isnt it like 3 hours earlier?

>>9212478
Timezone reps anon-chama, Gura is in her usual slot of 5pm.
13k for Bae is a bit lower than I was expecting, but j wouldn't be surprised if people may have opted to go more in on Kronii just because she was taking requests and perhaps they spent more than they expected there.

>>9212181
Wow somebody saved my ancient pic

>>9212565
>>9212586
My bad, I misread. It's almost midnight.

>>9212538
The convo initially was about YT Raid that turned to how it can benefit Holos and who would actually use them that turned conversation to Holos that do a similar action which is relays and manual redirection of live audience. Try to keep up

>>9212056
Good i hope she takes a note from this stream that noone gonna watch her playing apex. old ollie is more entertaining

>>9212454
>insane prediction
Who gives a fuck? That’s my prediction.
>Fauna only got $17k because she wasn't reading SCs in her stream
I didn’t say anything about that, so why are you?

SON NO!!, DONT FALL ON HER CLAWS

Am I an idiot for thinking that the Korean audience is a sleeping giant?

Korea has virtually nothing for quality high-visibility Vtuber options and Kronii was rolling in Koreans despite doing nothing more than reading their SCs in proper Korean.

>>9212692
the trick is not appealing to them. just make english content or worldwide content and market that already to them.

>>9212655
>I didn’t say anything about that, so why are you?
Early on, you were already predicting that Sana gets more SC than Fauna. Fauna "only" got $17k because she didn't read SC, which means your expectation for Sana is even higher than $17k.
I'm saying that's fucking insane and I'm very close to calling you a falseflagger for thinking she has a chance when you consider her recent numbers and subcount.

>>9212692
How is NijiKR doing?

>>9212692
Yep just like India

16k for rrat.
Thats a lot of yen but also
yellowmonkeyspacha.jpg

>>9212692
She got about 1.5k in USD or 1732413 KRW. Her biggest audience is still in USD which is 31179.02. KRW were 129 SCs and USD had 1568. Maybe this will open an opportunity of getting another Korean Chuuba that might occasionally speak in Korean

>>9212692
They already have homegrown vtubers but they're all on twitch

>>9212637
Holo relays are different than YouTube raids. You are stretching too far. Might as well label official twitter retweets as raid calls.

>>9212786
I mean how is Niji EN and Niji ID doing? That doesn't prove too much other than they aren't getting a quality product.

>>9212646
>hope she takes a note from this
she told ppl to unsub in the beginning of the stream

Not bad actually. No debuff game can stop the King.

>>9212692
They're like the Chinese - self-hating lunatic nationalist weebs who would never watch their own talents but will absoloutely sperg out if they percieve any slight, especially if it's from the Japanese. They also hate women even more than muslims do. I would be very careful courting the Korean audiance if I were Cover.

>>9212863
Why? She just hit 800

>>9212786
>How is NijiKR doing?

>Korea has virtually nothing for quality high-visibility Vtuber options

You tell me, lol

>>9212843
lol no
They just don't have Holo branding
Two of Holo EN2 also weren't doing that hot before they got it

>>9212776
>I'm saying that's fucking insane
You seem too offended over nothing.
>I'm very close to calling you a falseflagger for thinking she has a chance when you consider her recent numbers and subcount.
I don’t weigh as much value as you apparently do on live viewers and sub count, particularly when it comes to SC. Also you can call me whatever you want, it makes no damn difference to me.

>>9212839
It's obviously not a raid but by Holo Standards it already is since it is a call to action. You specifically ask your audience to move to the other girl and watch her instread. They give the link on Twitter most of the time. It's called a hype train where the chuubas hype up every hour until the main event.

>>9212800
Not India anon very few watch anime and even fewer care about vtubers. In 10 years there is a chance but right now no one bothers to watch anything other than fucking PUBG on mobile. Only 6 or 7 streamers here steam anything other than PUBG.

>>9212843
>how is Niji EN
im not nijifag, but they are doing good for vtuber's startup, wich they are

>>9212971
That was an irony. Sorry for not being obvious enough.

Baelz $14.9k (stream ended)

>>9213046
bretty good

>>9212904
>joke
>defense mechanism

>>9213046
Japbros...

>>9212786
>https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%8B%88%EC%A7%80%EC%82%B0%EC%A7%80%20KR
>The main languages are Korean and Japanese, and they use English incidentally depending on the members. Since the debut of the 2nd generation, the proportion of Japanese-speaking KR has increased, and since the 3rd generation debut of Japanese-speaking blizzard, mixed-race Iroha, and Japanese Akira Rei, the proportion of Japanese-speaking KR has increased. In particular, compared to other students, third-term students use Japanese or more than half of all broadcasts. After the release of "NIJINYANJI" [4][5], which was planned to commemorate Nizisanji Day in February 2021, the proportion of KR members in Nizisanji using Japanese has increased significantly. After the debut of the fifth generation, the percentage of Japanese language use has increased through experienced Japanese language, Banhada, and Sepina. In the case of English, Han Chi-ho, Han Chi-ho, Ryu Ha-ri, and Ryu Ha-ri, who are in love with each other, are fluent in using English.

>japanese speaking increase
>more japanese speaking increase
>english speaking increase
you tell me.

>>9213011
My bad for not getting it as well

>>9212932
It takes both brand and quality of content, sometimes not in equal mixes. This is how everything has worked in the history of marketing a product, so it shouldn't be surprising in the Vtuber space.

>>9212932
>Comparing indies/startups with an official Niji overseas branch
For real? Niji sucks at promoting their overseas branches, but don't act like the Niji brand isn't a thing.

>>9212984
They aren't a start-up. Your semantic word play ain't helping anyone. They are doing fine as an EN vtuber when compared to everyone else except to vtubers like Holo or Vshojo

>>9213066
>bretty good
no
Fauna got 17k and she didnt even read SCs

>>9213090
>Han Chi-ho, Han Chi-ho, Ryu Ha-ri, and Ryu Ha-ri, who are in love with each other
That's wild

>>9213046
Kronii > Fauna > Hakos, was correct. I did good so far.

>>9213152
15k is absolutely good for a vtuber lmao.

>>9212692
Yes
Unlike US and China, Korea does not willingly accept japanese culture. In fact things that tend to be popular in one country tend to get debuffed in the other.
This is why Overwatch was stupidly popular in Korea and yet ignored and basically dead in Japan. Then later Apex become wildly successful in Japan yet competitively dead in Korea.
This is the reason why HoloEN is more popular than HoloJP in Korea. There's way less friction accepting something popular from America than from Japan.

On a side note, has the 13-16:00 JP time frame always been this competitive on Saturday?

6 of the biggest streamers around are still active and getting better numbers than usual during the week. Only now did those streaming for 2+ hours started losing steam.

>>9213185
Someone keeps repeating that Fauna got 17k for some reason, even when it doesn’t in anyway apply to anything you said.

>>9213152
It's decent for her. I was expecting she would get 15k. Her audience net is just far younger and all over the place compared to Fauna. Fauna did well by sticking to one time slot. And come on. Do you really expect the zoomer to get more than the asmr gfe girl.

>>9213128
And you don't act like Hololive isn't much more well-known globally compared to Nijisanji.

>>9213128
that is becasue the other branches are there to promote the main branch.
Hence why any collab is done at times that are better for JP only.

>>9213141
> They aren't a start-up
>Your semantic word play ain't helping anyone
this is much more fair to nijiEN since niji didnt have any "ground" in EN market unlike cover befor holoEN

>>9213282
Never acted otherwise.
Still doesn't change that the Niji brand is a thing and they have much more promotion and exposure than startups and indies.

>>9212863
What ? context pls

>>9213333
My reply was originally about how quality doesn't guarantee high viewership in the first place.

https://pastebin.com/7bBA5Da4
Just nabi being nabi

>>9213331
That's not how start-ups is. Lol. That only means a well established local company trying to break outside of their common market.

>>9213334
NTA, but Ollie hits her 100k milestones too quickly for endurance streams so she tells her subs to unsub temporary so she can prolong the stream.
She recently did this with her 700k stream, which she extended by 30 mins by telling her fans to unsub. It's lowkey kinda disrespectful to vtubers who will never get 700k subs in their careers lol.

>>9213269
>Do you really expect the zoomer to get more than the asmr gfe girl?
knowing holoEN gen1 numbers? yes

>>9213399
Mori beat Gura in SCs so what are you even talking about?

>>9213244
I honestly think this is a much bigger point than people realize, especially in regards to NijiKR and >>9213090's post.

Japanese and Japanese-adjacent content is inherently going to be debuffed for a native Korean audience, while HoloEN being the equivalent of western/American product with the potential for future members (or even current, in Kronii's case) to fill that Korean niche and demand without the same kind of baggage that Japanese/half-Japanese/Japanese-fluent Vtubers is a significant advantage to potentially capturing that audience.

It's a really interesting dynamic and I wonder if there's actually anything to mine there or if even with that factored in, the KR audience simply isn't substantial enough for it to matter. But imagine if you were the HoloEN who could break into and basically monopolize the Korean Vtuber market.

>>9213398
It wasn't about them.

>>9213255
Naw, Pekora and Subaru always stream at this time on weekends.
The only new additions are Aqua, who has more time to stream recently but playing a super debuff game, and Kuzuha and Kanae, who are only streaming early because it's a tournament.
Korone is not a big CCV getter anymore these days, especially when playing FFIX.

King 28k for valorant

Buffs
>Tournament practice
>First stream with teammates
>Spygea, Stylishnoob, Kanae Collab

Debuffs
>Valorant
>Not Usual Stream slot

>>9213396
i just tired of unfair comparisons of holo and nijiEN

>>9213515
It's not tournament practice, it's the actual tournament.

>>9213379
What's the reason for it?

>>9213592
No idea she just sometimes goes and deletes vods

>>9213540
It's normal to be compared especially if your whole livelihood is dependent on how many people are watching you and how many people are sending you money. It's a number driven creative environment. It's just a miracle that many aren't' obvious numberfags

First SC stream - HoloEN

1. Kroni $ 46.3k
2. Mori $ 27k
3. Irys $ 24.1k
4. Gura $ 21.4k
5. Ame $ 21.3k
6. Fauna $ 17.3k
7. Ina $ 16.9k
8. Baelz $ 14.9k
9. Kiara $ 10k

>>9213443
Korean vtuber market is already filled with HoloEN clips. There's already a few big translator/clipper channels that gets more than 10k views daily. I don't mean those regular clip ones, rather well edited meme clip videos. Don't get me started on the channels that translates 1+ hour long videos of HoloEN.

>>9213568
Damn then those are some really low numbers.
for a tournament despite split POV.
Guess there's no real hype for a tournament that doesn't take time to build up.

>>9213640
if baelz will not get 5.1k next stream she will lose to Kiara

>>9213640
What if Kiara spiral down again if it turns out she's lowest SCed girl of all HoloEN upon debut. Even if I don't have high hopes for Sana, I still think she will get more than 10k. Maybe Kiara can spin it so that her saviorfags shower her with money on a member stream

>>9213568
Actual tourney what? I thought it was a practice match before a tourney or something. Guess I didn't read enough of the Twitter post.

>>9213691
There's already someone who edited/translated guracalli's King cover

https://youtu.be/6HR_5F4DQeM

>>9213398
retard

>>9213730
I'll watch Sana till she graduates if she beat Kiara's 10k

>>9213691
How do we save the KR scene from the holos?

>>9213919
lol ina top 6 KR vtuber!

>>9212084
Like I said I think she'd have done better in her later timeslot, since she'd get the EN viewers who don't watch streams they can't understand plus some stray JPs that are likely to throw money. The only possible competition is Choco's anniversary.

>>9213919
>KR vtuber clip channel
>all HoloEN
you hate to see it.

>600k subs collab

>>9213919
Why is HoloEN popular in KR and not NijiEN?

>>9214096
>more than half of the clips are all of/related to Kronii

Can't imagine how much more this will skew if she keeps on taking Korean SCs fluently as well.

>>9214096
>KR vtuber clip channel
>all HoloEN
you should see Kronii's 1st SC stream. it was fool of KRs

>>9214163
>3:30am east coast collab on part two of a less popular game

cease

>>9213255
These twitch "thumbnails" really shit up the charts aesthetically.

>>9214096
>only 1 cip of Kiara
poor girl, she even streamed KR duolingo and took it seriously..

>>9214173
anon huge portion of nijiEN "fans" are holobroni

>>9214173
anon, huge portion of nijiEN "fans" are holobronis

>>9214173
Hololive is much more well-known. Some kind of meme about Ame got big in Korea that's where a lot of people got exposed to hololive.

>>9214246
>>9214274

Suspicious.

>>9214218
did you ever visite twitch?

>>9214347
Yes unfortunately. Kiara did some kind of German convention interview there.

>>9212692
>land of materialistic bugs that get exposed to kpop plastic idols 24/7
They don't give a shit about below average women hiding behind anime avatars

I think its funny how much they are clipping Ina just cause she's korean.
Ina probably gets the least clips in NA due to clippers not having much to work with.

>>9214096
KR stands for Kronii, right?

>>9214602
what about KiaRa?

>>9213919
>that Watame channel at 7th
Patrician taste

Anyone has any idea why Fauna's monetized stream chat is not restored yet? Or will it ever be back?

>>9214096
Surprised Cover aren't moving in on this. They hit the EN Boom with perfect timing, if they get some KR Holos out in the next 2-3 months they'll capture that audience the same way they've got a vice grip on EN Vtubing.

Yeah I think Sana will be the lowest EN 2, I don't think there's been enough time for her to cultivate enough viewers to donate a lot to her nor has her content gotten much attention. Subs usually doesn't translate to how much supahs one can get but in this case I would say the girls haven't quite cultivated a unique and loyal fanbase yet, so Mumei will be in between Kronii and Fauna.

Now the question id be more curious is, do you guys think Sana will do better than Kiara's record? People here in /vt/ are hyping her up but we all know that doesn't really translate to the general audience, Baelz is literally an example of one everyone thought would be the best performing one and now she's 4th and her views have been going low besides the Minecraft one.

>>9214942
Do they really need to make a whole ass branch for it though? I think it's better to just stick 1 or 2 Koreans in EN3. Saves money. They can also just encourage Ina. Kronii and Bae stream in Korean once a month

>>9214902
Who knows with youtube fuckery, there's random streams from other holos where I had to wait for days for chat to be restored since I wanted to understand what they were saying through a translator in chat. I remember like Botan's first RE8 had chat be available on vod right away but then the next 2 parts requires a few days.

>>9214942
>>9215006
SEA is a huge part of the vtuber audience yet they don't give a fuck about ID. I think it would be the same with Koreans. There's not a single big Korean vtuber besides Bora and she speaks more Japanese than Korean.

>>9214984
Bae is all over the place. Her numbers only shows that hits and misses in her decision making. She has to settle down much like how Irys settled down in her timeslot. Sana will surely get more than 10k. She's more likeable than Kiara upon debut and she's also streaming at a great timeslot for EN viewers on a weekend. She is most likely will read them all too which would encourage more SCs.

>>9214984
>Baelz is literally an example of one everyone thought would be the best performing one
was she really? I always thought Mumei and/or Kronii would be the best performing instead

>>9214984
Sana seems way to nice to stoop as low as Kiara with parasocial manipulation. She might get more than Kiara on the first stream, but in the long run she's looking to be THE anti-numberfag

>>9215088
>SEA is a huge part of the vtuber audience yet they don't give a fuck about ID.
Huh? They've got a whole ID branch with 2 gens already and they're doing auditions for the 3rd now. Cover clearly give a shit about ID considering they were the first branch to be created outside Japan. If you mean the fact that the ID manager is incompetent that's a different matter than Cover being interested in growing their ID audience.

>>9215109
She was like 1st in subs at the start, now everyone besides Sana passed her, and then you've got Mumei who a lot of people here dislike her either for being "boring" or the bf narrative yet she's 2nd.

>>9212056
It's 12 hours, but yeah. The fact that it's just a solid block of APEX compared to other endurance where there's enough variety to keep people watching.
Also not helped is that Ollie has an international audience while the stream starts late night US/early morning EU and ends at a "safer" time.

>>9215219
I meant that SEAniggers themselves don't care about their own branch. The little fans that Anya has are EOPs and Japanese for example. Same goes for Ollie and Moona.

>>9215219
The vast majority of the holoID audience aren't from SEA, they are either nips or other EOPs, that's what he means by that.

Mumei and Sana's SC streams are up.
Mumei moved up 3 hours to avoid clashing with Gura's MC stream and Sana is at 9 pm PST/ 12 am EST, which is a slightly better time than Baelz.
Maybe she has a chance at getting a go- "Fanart+Meme review!" nvm it's not gonna be a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQAlW4yR28k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6YaBqHtkTU

>>9215227
Forgot to add also that Mumei ended up draining the most of Gura's views, which so far had seemed to be absolutely focused on her and barely go over to other holos. Yeah yeah it was a kusoge but those viewers lost would usually just disappear instead of winding up in another stream like Mumei's.

>>9215236
>It's 12 hours
check her twitter. it is 24h
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1433833796688699395
>enough variety to keep people watching.
there will be collab with irys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTf5hL6b6NU

>>9215418
Sana
>has terrible timeslot
Owl
>will make a bank

>>9215455
If Ollie wants to keep the archive, she'll end it before 12 hours then start a new stream.

playboard taking his sweet time with this stream.

>>9215444
I think a better way to put what you're saying is, normally in this time slot, there would be at most 20k people watching HoloEN (Gura's stream), but today, we had 30k (15k Gura, 15k Mumei).
It's a net gain in total viewers for HoloEN, which is the ultimate goal of getting new gens anyways.

>>9215529
...
anon, everyone know that.
you obviously didn't check tweet, since even Ollie said that it will be 2x12h streams.
12+12=?

This Ollie chart is interesting to show when her western audience starts to fade and when her eastern audience starts to show up

Baelz is streaming in one of Kiara's timeslots today and MK is normally a good numbers game so it'll be interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL46I7l0yaE

>>9215767
Today is Saturday too, it will be interesting to see how weekends change their numbers

Since Vshojo is on the rise right now to become the top Vtuber agency in the West, how many people do you think will come to a new debut now? I'm guessing around 80-90k minimum.

I miss the Kuzuha King kneel poster.

LOL I forgot Choco has a 3D stream tonight for her anniversary.
Should be ~30k like Mel's, I can't even remember the last time Choco had a 3D stream on her channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHKQDaz0C0

>>9215759
I expected this, not too surprised. She'll get another boost once she starts with her collab partners.
>>9215817
Shame Anon! Your falseflagging and bait reps are in need of work. You need to show numbers at least if you wanna get a nice post out of someone. Instead, all you get is my pity.

>>9215767
>Baelz is streaming in one of Kiara's timeslots today
"another Rat in my kitchen, huh"

>>9215879
I hope the guests are good. It's an open slot and they need a lot of viewers to complete the one week winning streak.

>9215817
>9211947
shitter samefagging

>>9214637
no

>>9215879
Last year it was little over 31k
https://playboard.co/en/video/H4aZ8vzyR9c
She's a bit more popular than then and this was right before Holo's biggest boom. But also, before the live numbers suppression started happening so, well see.
Anywhere from 25-35k for today, maybe more because of Saturday prime time.

More than live view numbers, I'd want her to get some good Superchats.
Her 2020 anniversary is the only video left on her channel where she got over 6k$

>>9215879
20-30k.
anything over 40k is really good for her.

>>9215879
Really depends on the guests, but she also hasn't streamed in a week so there should be some pend up viewers and SC waiting.
I'm gonna say 35k+ and $8k superchat.

>>9215879
>Choco has a 3D stream tonight for her anniversary.
damn this is the reason i like Cover.
they give spolight even small vtubers in their branch.

>>9216358
>they give spolight even small vtubers in their branch.
I like Cover but for another reason that leads to the same thing: they don't give anything at all to anyone in any branch, big or small.

Each girl (along with their manager) is responsible for deciding, organizing, inviting their peers and putting together the crew for anything they want done on their behalf.
Cover provides the tools and, when it is a special day or when it makes sense, the funds but other than that each girl, no matter how big or small, can organize absolutely whatever they want (within reason)

>>9213640
where did u get fauna's numbers? according to playboard she got 7k not 17k

>>9216521
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/channel/UCO_aKKYxn4tvrqPjcTzZ6EQ.html#ztuyKI3yHj0
For some reason playboard is shitting the bed with her stream, probably because it's her first monetized stream and something broke.
It's happened before with playboard.

>>9216521
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

>>9216469
>Each girl (along with their manager) is responsible for deciding, organizing, inviting their peers and putting together the crew for anything they want done on their behalf.
this is unique to each branch. this is definitely is not true for JP branch since they have big infrastructure
>studio
>writers
>another staff
just watch "Legend of Polka" for example

im sure ID branch ve got something going on, too.

EN brach is the most fucked up in this term, thats why i put a lot of hate on EN managments

>>9215418
>>9215504
I feel Mumei might have a fair amount of viewers with plenty of blue-yellows, but not much reds. Her audience seems to be leaning similarly like Gura's (as >>9215444 said) but she'd still be behind Kronii just for the virtue of her being the 2nd most popular Council. I don't imagine them being that poor to be behind Fauna, but it's a possibility
>>9216358
believe it or not, Choco used to be the second most popular 2nd gen besides Aqua. Unfortunately Susan is a prude so her channel suffered a lot

>>9216714
>be behind Fauna
she didnt even read SCs and still got 17k
for me this is bottom line of success.
>if chuba will get less, this is bad
for scale
>Ina got 16k too, during her 1st SC stream

Uh. Well then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xL58zG9k5k
Bit of a surprise live from Aqua x Shion. Wonder what kinda numbers we'll see out of this.

>>9216673
>this is definitely is not true for JP branch since they have big infrastructure
It is. Each girl has to request to use said infrastructure, management won't force them or compel them to do anything, which is my point

>>9215504
For Sana, that’s close to the time of her highest live viewers. Not sure if intentional or not.

>>9216894
>Each girl has to request to use said infrastructure
true, Cover have their limits but at least they have their own staff, place, resources or at least connections to do so. (for example last songs of Suisei and Watame was mad with Sony's producers/mixers (im not sure)).

so they could be slow, but they make shit done.

on another hand you ve got holoEn managment who not only didnt help Kiara with her last song (at all!), but fucked up its name on itunes and spotify

>>9215855
King and his merry crew are shitting around in Valorant and doing average numbers so there is nothing to kneel about.

>>9217148
>For Sana, that’s close to the time of her highest live viewers.
are you sure, anon?
i thout her best time was Gura's slot (9-11am JST), but this is 13pm JST

>>9217209
is this damn vamp leeching again?

>>9213700
>>9213740
arent most watching the actual tournaent hosted on a different platform?

>>9208243
>veibae beating kiara
heh.

>>9217283
It's on abema, yes.
>>9217271
Everyone else leeches from him.

>>9217303
is this even a surprise for you?

>>9217303
>>9209411

>>9217271
Since he was invited it's more like they're leeching from him?

>>9217375
True. There was a raid on Veibae's stream that jumped her up about 2k peeps looks like.
It IS true though that Kiara's usual numbers due to the amount of debuff shit she plays is pretty bad and can be beaten by the averages of some Vshojo streams.

>>9216818
>for me this is bottom line of success.
You might want to change that since it's unrealistic. Kiara didn't read SCs so she only got $10k and she's currently 2nd place in HoloEN SCs. Fauna getting $17k is nuts.

>Ina got 16k too, during her 1st SC stream
Ina had better debut week numbers than anyone in Council, except Kronii, by a mile. She was very popular right off the bat.

Fucking Hololive keeps on leeching off Vshojo heh

>9217684
your bait quality is dropping, anon
please try harder, or just resort using Nijis to shitpost instead

>>9217589
Because unlike Sana, she displays her talent right off the bat with two drawing streams in debut week and 2 kayfabe games. Holoscopes was a bad starter episode, she should've waited a bit to make it more interesting with paid assets after superchat reading. I get that she wants to keep her roommate secret but it's already been reveal even before her debut.

>>9217721
do not forget that 1st game ina playthrough was call of cthulhu, wich is not only a secret buff, but was great showcase of her personality

>>9217710
Seeth harder, Vshojo is where the future of vtubing at

>>9217872
>Vshojo is where the future of vtubing at
Leaf hands typed this absurdly mangled sentence

>>9217375
To be fair the top 3 vshojos consistently get higher numbers than Kiara even without raids.

>kneel and mog posters have moved to vshoujo
Thank you.

>9218200
look, he is evolving

Watching niji showdown right now. Still don't get why people would pay to watch a live levergacha and quiz in a live venue at pandemic.

>>9218460
Because it's fun I guess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsZbJ0KlzM

Why she has only like ~90 viewers each stream with 100k+ subscribers

>>9218386
That was my only post itt, but it is literally true. This is the numbers thread, isn't it? Ironmouse gets between 7k and 10k without raids, so does Nyanners. Veibae is a bit lower, but not by much. Kiara only gets higher numbers if she does a special stream.

>Ironmouse, Veibae and Nyanners is consistently getting higher viewership than Gura, on par with Sakura Miko
>Vshojo streamers making connection with big mainstream streamers OTV, Ludwig, Mizkif, etc
>Nobody in the world aside from Japanese and SEA watches livestream from YT
>Still thinking Hololive EN is the top dog
>Vshojo already starting audition for their 2nd gen, spelling the end for HoloEN

>>9218589
Next step is solidify your claim with pic

lol I see the SEAniggers have gone extra retarded on this thread today

>>9218624
Now THIS is shitposting. Mouse is the only one making connections and I don't think Vei and Nyanners have beaten Gura numbers even once.

>>9218482
I've paid to go to concerts and movies all the time. What I expect is usually entertainment and environment that you can't get at home. So, what's the difference between just downloading the whole stream from someone online and just watch it at home, not paying any cost or bear any risk catching the coof? It's 8k yen ffs and the place is packed. I don't understand nips sometimes.

>>9218645
What do you mean? Go to twitchtracker and you can get a detailed look at their viewer numbers for the past years. Their average viewers for a normal stream right now are solidly over 7k. This is not an opinion and easy to check.

>>9218624
You're just retarded

>>9218589
true, but every confident numberfag knows it.
there is not reason to point it out.
or you are just baiting KFP to say?
>but she is top 8 holo member in term of SCs in 2021

reminder for the retards who try to compare ccv from twitch vs youtube

>>9218704
They are getting entertainment. Why go to a concert when you can just watch a recording live or why watch a movie when you can just rip it

>>9218624
nice bait set up
how much time did you spend?

>>9218838
NTA but I'm watching it too. The crowd inside the venue is pretty awkward ngl

Choco's live 3D anniversary in 10 min
predictions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHKQDaz0C0

>>9219095
20-30k
40k would be a success for her.

>>9218822
el cope ultimo

>>9217303
she's had consistently higher numbers than kiara since she joined vshojo last spring with the exception of collabs and special events

>>9219169
this>>9218796

>9219169
>but Kiara is top 8 holo member in term of SCs in 2021!
>>9219210
There, it's done so none of you actual KFP need to do it since we're at bump limit anyways.

>>9219095
20-25k probably

High numbers or not, it won't change my desire to fuck Choco senseless
LET ME IN ABE
LET ME HAVE SEX WITH CHOCO
I WILL MARRY THIS CAKE AND GIVE HER THE LOVING FAMILY SHE DESERVES

>Cover's 3D object tracking
oh nononono

>>9219693
Christ those noises. No wonder YouTube dumped her into the slammer jeeeeeeeeezuz.

Susan is so envious of these badonkers

>>9219693
Anon, Abe's been gone for so long now even his successor is quitting

>>9219712
The only thing cover can get the tracking right on is Towa's thighs. Everything else, not so much.

>>9218624
anon, don't say the truth out loud like that, you will hurt holobronies feeling, most of Vshoujou's number is at the holoEN level now ouside of one or two top tier, give it time and Vshoujou will incline hard

How are holotrannies coping with the fact that Vshitshow are mogging HoloEN?

I prefer kneeling to kuzuha to whatever the fuck this is

Expecting choco to defend the 6 day winning streak was too hard on her

>>9219895
Wait didn't sugi just became pm last year?

Out of the current top 10 the two that impresses me the most are
>a talking duck
>OwlGirl painting

Really, what’s with Subaru and zatsus? And people were right about OwlGirl being a new Ina too

I love that everyone agrees that Vshojo is now the top EN group. No one cares about HoloEN anymore

>>9220431
Yeah but it was implied he would be merely holding the seat until the party would find a more long lasting successor.

>>9220461
Yes HoloEN are irrelevant now but i fucking hate twitch and refuse to watch these e-thots.

>>9220211
No, I like this better because now Kuzuha is left alone, his present for reaching 1mil.

>vshojo baits
>inb4 new vshojo debuts gets nijiEN numbers during debut and after
>Kronii earned $43k on first monetization

>>9220439
Subaru has built a relationship with clippers and the EOP audience for her Zatsus, and she's just naturally skilled with them. Gift of gab and whatnot.
If this is the route that Mumei has chosen I can see why Sana opted to avoid art streams, so that she wouldn't end up stepping on Mumei's toes since management is afraid of history yabs.
Also, I really wish graph Anon would throw out some graphs to either validate or shut up this stupid Vshojo schizo falseflagger.

>>9220523
>to either validate or shut up this stupid Vshojo schizo falseflagger
Even acknowledging his weak bait is doing him a favor. Just do like the rest of the thread, ignore and scroll past

>>9220431
He's the fall guy for the shitshow of a covid response they had.
Abe left for "heatlh" reasons and got to keep his legacy intact.

>9208830
>9211947
>9215817
>9217684
>9220156
>9220461
Holy schizo

>>9218704
well, have somebodies are better than nobodies?

>>9220523
>since management is afraid of history yabs.
Wut? I’m not following this. How having two drawfags in a gen cause any yabe?

Subaru just buffed Choco above 30k.

https://sullygnome.com/channel/ironmouse/30/longtermstats
https://sullygnome.com/channel/ironmouse/30/longtermstats
https://sullygnome.com/channel/veibae/30/longtermstats
You can check monthly stats from here

>>9220676
She hit it during Mel, no?

>>9220671
Allow me to clarify.
Managment is afraid that Mumei covering history would cause yabs. Instead, Mumei decided to lean into her art skills, and perhaps Sana just considers it another reason to not draw on stream, on top of whatever unknown reasons may already exist.

What’s with nips and baseball?

>>9220211
shut up before they bring that arc back

>>9220715
>both sub 1 million monthly views
Sometimes I forget just how big an advantage YouTube has by being an actual video sharing platform. If YouTube wasn't run so poorly they could have dominated streaming years ago.

>>9220940
As much views as one good Gura MC stream.
Or a week of Kiara streaming if you want to lowball it.

>>9216818
And lamy got 9k, whats your point?

>>9220787
>Managment is afraid that Mumei covering history would cause yabs
kek, given how history is the current cultural battlefield in the west and how much seethe it causes to Japan neighbors to this day that’s a no brainer.

>>9221062
Wasn't the monetization for that stream a mistake and she was asking people not to donate as they wouldn't get read? I doubt she intended to stream Getting Over It as the first monetized stream.

King 35k
>nothing without apex

7 min in Leos is already catch on Kanae.
They haven't even start the game yet
Why is Kanae declining on valo? he often solo 15K APEX with tournament practice.

King who? we play minecraft

>>9221248
sutopri kneel arc?

>>9221170
>Collab with e-celebs
>tourney

>>9221326
like all other e-celebs combined together can reach King's number? Those ecelebs are literally nobodies lmao

>>9221208
>7 min in Leos is already catch on Kanae.
Leos is particularly strong this week

>>9221170
If you take away APEX, Valorant, Idol Manager, eceleb collabs, special events, other streams he could get numbers, take away his mouse, keyboard, consoles, turn the electricity off in his entire city block, spread mean rumors casting aspersions on his sexuality then kidnap him and deliver him to the Taliban HOW WOULD HE EVEN GET NUMBERS HUH?!

>>9221170
>>9221326
>>9221408
took a quick look at their channels, as of me typing this:
stylishnoob 45k
kuzuha 32k
spygea 15k
kanae 9k
sasatikk 3k

>>9221408
Go check twitch nigga, stylishnoob 40k right now, Kuzuha is the second-highest view for this tournament.

>>9221482
he will get numbers the taliban will watch him

>>9221495
Yeah, stylish is the highest viewed pov

Are Leos and Oliver gonna play or not?

Don't know why Marine is still playing Hardcore till this day. She and flare would have better results making a large building like what ibrahim did or start a Rust arc. Rust doesn't need permissions to play right?

>>9221556
seki's the one with the most clout of the bunch (beyond just apex) so it makes sense. pretty cool still that kuzuha is 2nd but he outsubs all of them so i guess that also makes sense.

>>9221268
I listened to some thanks to this thread and they're pretty good. The yellow one has a fuckable voice, no homo

>>9221563
no they can't get RE2rev working so they going for slither.io
And for some reaspm the viewer ain't leaving, actually the numbers goes even higher now

>>9220439
Subaru got 2 dedicated clippers last year that really helped her get popular. And if Lyger hadn't slacked off in making clips for Matsuri on his channel, she might not have gotten this low.

Can anyone explain the valorant bounty tournament? I'm confused on the structure because it lasts till the 30th

>>9221644
The same thing happened before in a past stream. Fans want to listen to them talk.
>>9221669
Team up with one of the featured people and show screenshot evidence to win a prize

>>9221603
>Don't know why Marine is still playing Hardcore till this day.
She can get an easy 25k+ mogging in a game she’s not even that proficient

>>9221669
even riot wants kuzuha to stop playing valorant because it's boring so if you shoot him irl they will pay you

>>9221748
But this event forces them to play valorant OFFLINE, they're torturing him.

>>9221669
wait what? the fucking tournament lasts for about a month?

>>9221912
it's not a tournament just play normally and if one of the streamers is in your team screenshot it

Is ABEMA the Japanese version of twitch?

>>9221912
the game they are currently playing is a separate tournament by the official valorant japan. that's just for today.

If I hire a prostiture and force her to play games and stream how much money will I need? Is it too late to get into this business?

Is playboard fucking with me, or did Kronii absolutely mogged Fauna in the superchat party?

>>9222032
Both, real number is ~17k for Fauna. That's still a mogging compared to 45k though.

>>9222058
>~17k
Still seem kind of low to me, but it makes more sense than <10k for the first superchat party.

>>9222144
>seem kind of low to me
Beats Kiara first SC.

>>9222022
>If I hire a prostiture and force her to play games and stream how much money will I need
About 100 bucks per hour plus about the same to rent a room and the computer. 200 bucks an hour, plus whatever initial cost for her live2d design and rig.

Or your going for the “titties gamer” model? Then your shit out of luck, Amouranth and similar girls cornered that market long ago.

>>9222144
If you read upthread (not that I blame you for missing it) it said that she wasn't doing SC readings, hence her lower amount. She definitely would have broken 20k otherwise.

WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT

>the at one time biggest streamer in the world, the most celebrated vtuber idol, the Niji Killer and the highest IQ of the whole industry
>one cheeky retarded girl managing the idols she want to become

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, ANGER AND AROUSE YOU!

piyo closed

>>9222586
FUUUUUUUUUCK

>>9222586
>>9222617
FUCKKKKKKK

>>9222586
The same day they added vshojo

>>9222586
>>9222617
RUN ADS YOU FOOL. I'll CLICK ONE AD IF IT MEANT YOU GETTING 5 CENTS.

>>9222617
Anon, we know you're here.
If you're either willing to run ads or release source code to see if someone is willing to deal with the cost...

>>9222617
And....this tread is dead again.

>numberfagging dead for good
yay!

>>9222659
>vshojo killed numberfagging

>>9222672
Patreon works too.

Fuck we're back to using playboard again? I blame vshojo for this

>>9222708
>If you're either willing to run ads or release source code to see if someone is willing to deal with the cost...
I'll add something: I have the know-how to choose the best cloud providers and tune things in a way to keep the cost minimum. It's part of my day job

COME ON PIYO-NIP-BRO, REACH OUT AND THE COMMUNITY WILL HELP YOU

>Nijisanji and Vshojo mogs Hololive
>piyo goes down
heh

ikioi chads rise up

PIYO BRO, OPEN YOUR TWITTER DMS

>>9222869
Who would benefit from these numbers though? People who run these sites doesn't earn anything.

>>9222890
Vnuma also died right before the baseball ark
quite funny
Holobronies cant take a L

>>9222913
Who benefits from distributing and seeding pirate animes and hentai for free? It's the same

>>9222891
Back to seeing jun-chan again. There's a 3DPD girls in now.

Fuck, Piyo really faked me into postponing my goal of making a scraper by August 1st, then September 1st.

>NEW GOALS
Scraper online by Sep 15, site online by Oct 1st.

>>9222910
HIS MARSHMALLOWS ARE OPEN SEND YOUR MESSAGES THROUGH THERE

>>9222758
Back to ikioi dailies we go

Kuzuha's stream peaked at 37k. Come on Botan, you can do this. Beat the vamp.

>>9208243
Monthly ikioi