/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9159186
The fanbase wars are fucking retarded and are seriously tiring me. It's like Kpop boyband rivalries with teenage girls slapfighting each other all the time, except it's with grown men and instead of calling each other fat they call each other niggers. It's childish and I'd love to be able to discuss vtubers normally without seeing this bullshit, but it's so prominent now.

>>9159217
It's literally imported from /v/. Pay those children no mind and discuss the chuubas you love.

>>9159249
hololive threads have been like this since it's inception. Hell, the virtual youtuber thread was like this ever since they discovered that Japanese numberfag website that I forgot the name of. And that was 4 years ago

>>9159217
Not our fault that they've become hipsters and used their knowledge to to use against the fandom they were once was, to justify their chuubas being the best.

Also, their ancestors are literal evil. and the sole reason why i became a brand loyalist.

>>9159186
I got a job
Also >>9159217

>>9159186
The whole business model relies on hitting the serotonin receptors of the most desperate and clingy fans over quality content because 1 paypig is worth more than 1000 casual viewers.
So over time content more and more filters down to 4-5 in jokes or behaviour patterns that make that 1 fan throw his wallet at the screen.

>>9159397
I remember when they kicked Hololive out of /vyt/. Just ignore the schizos and discuss streams.

>>9159507
Capeshit argument. Very American. You assume mass appeal equals quality, when in fact the opposite is true.

>>9159557
No I did not. Just repeating "boing boing, gura flat" 10 times a stream isn't quality content. Calm your autism.

>>9159186
Can you not use Pomu for your rants Holofag? The fact you are bored with EN, found EN2 disappointing, refuse to watch ID because of Ollie and can't understand JP does not mean there is anything "wrong" with the vtubing industry. You just need to branch out from your comfort zone.

>>9159217
>>9159627
like clockwork

>>9159643
>Samefag thinks he set a booby trap in the thread.
Are you that bored?

>>9159186
Browsing here will absolutely destroy your interest in vtubers. I put 4chan behind a content blocker during prime time in Japan and the West but it’s hard not to switch it off during dead hours. Even still it has greatly helped to refocus my attention on watching streams instead of shitposting and being subjected to a lot of the trash that is posted here.
I also started subbing HoloEN for NijiEN after Holo EN2 debuted and that change in atmosphere has helped to renew my interest in English vtubers. Good luck

I'm too deep in the rabbit hole already. If I get bored with one, I'll watch another. If I get bored with VTubers in general, it means I'm just prioritizing some stuff in my life more. I'll go back eventually like I always have.

>>9159186
>Are there any people here who's on the verge of losing their vested interest on virtual youtubers?
There's too many vtubers I'm emotionally invested into for that to happen. My fear of letting them down stops me from burning out.

>>9159763
Not trying to start shit but at what point would you consider that you have a problem?

>>9159857
When you can't stop donating even when you are beyond your budget for the adrenaline rush of having your name and message read.

>>9159186
Browsing /vt/. I can't believe I share the same hobbies as schizos and hatemongering autists.

Calli, Kiara, Ollie and some others pushing shitty e celebs and anitubers into the content started killing it for me.

>>9159186
it kinda died but now it´s coming back, I come to /vt/ less and less, and i just watch what I like simple as that. do that if you want the interest back op, if not well hope you find something new

>>9159186
A v-tuber i once looked upto insulted me and that kinda kiled my interest in v-tubers for a while, but now i feel overwhelmed with v-tubers.

>>9161746
What? Kiara is one of the few who is outspokenly against collabing with anitubers and e-celebs

>>9163957
when did she say this?

>>9164558
she said “oh no ew” about some faggot twitch celeb but went on to invite veibae and nyanners.

>>9164626
KEK based chicken

>>9159186
My oshi's keep fucking dying despite all the hype they have

You name it, JP indie with amazing talent, backed ones that pioneered early vtubing, to watching random indies suddenly go corporate and exploding out the gate only to fucking yabe themselves to death

Granted, they've come back in some form (some), but not all, and that's what hurts me, how long until whatever one I get really attached to dies or retires next?!

>>9159217
t. nijinigger

>>9159217
The filter is working

>>9159186
Not me, chuubas are awesome

>>9159186
On the opposite i used to hate them and now i love them.

>>9159186
i dont know japanese and refuse to sit there and not understand what the fuck they are saying and EN vtubers are so cringe to me.

>>9159186
Was close after Coco left but NijiEN Saved me. EN2 isn't so bad either

>>9159186
I always try to watch someone new every week so I don't really have a main oshi. Maybe that's why I never felt burned out at any point? I feel like most people that get that feeling are just getting tired of watching the same set of girls for months on end.

>>9159186
This board. I found out shitposting here is way more fun than watching chuubas. I still watch them from time to time though, just not as often.

>>9159857
When it starts to interfere with the rest of my life. So far I've been able to keep that balance so I think I'm good. Also I'm poor so I can't SC anyways.

I lost all interest a few months into HoloEN gen1. None of them could hold my interest. I watched Selen a month ago. Now I watch livestreams and enjoy them much more then I enjoyed HoloEN. Even when HoloEN started.

I don’t actually watch any vtubers, I’m just here for the distorted pekos.

>>9159186
Lately sometimes I feel like I'm on the verge of losing interest in /vt/.
Vtubers are still fun though.

>>9171593
Based. I'm here for the schizophrenia and le tired sharks

>>9159186
Finding out a vtuber I really liked was somebody that I used to know

>>9159186
nah only hololive, I've moved to other companies choobas and I like the new variety of content there is out there.

>>9159186
The yuri shit is kind of killing it for me, at least when it comes to Hololive, especially EN. When you have no interest in shipping but that stuff starts to consume their content, it's hard to stay invested.

>>9159186
I tried to become Pomu, but i can't seem to become Pomu.

>>9159186
I unironically went back to my comfy HololiveJP threads, trying to follow too many chuubas took a toll on me, now I only watch my oshi and her close friends and everything is good, also I blocked all the NijiEN buzzwords here and suddenly the board quality is good

>>9172033
>NijiEN buzzwords
???

>>9172033
> trying to follow too many chuubas took a toll on me
>follows holoJP

Anon you did this to yourself, I subbed to most of them but I only ever have a casual glance, I only really have 10 and I crave the contrast

The fandom may be part of your oshi's but they are NOT the oshi's, if you need /vt/ to remind you why you like your chuubas I suggest therapy

>>9159186
Not there yet but I'm on the way, that's for sure...
I started watching vtubers because of the lack of drama, that can't be seen anywhere else, but as time goes on more and more yab shit keeps appearing and my rose tinted glasses are cracking.

Guess humans can avoid yab shit even if they acting 24/7. I just wanted my comfy fantasy without the yab...

>>9171694
Same here. I wonder if it’s the same one. Mine is a corpo

I feel like the market is over saturated. Constant exposure to vtubers from every angle is wearing away at my interest. It used to be that a new debut or something was exciting, but with them happening every month it's impossible keep up with all the ones that interest me, so I don't even give newer talents a chance

>>9172673
Haha. What are the odds. Mine too.

>>9159450
Same. Chuubas convinced me to get a job and get out of 2 years of NEETdom in order to drop most of my first paycheck ever on a $500 akasupa. Ironically, this also made me wead off of vtubers as I realized how fleeting that happiness was just for my oshi to acknowledge me for a couple seconds.

I just don't understand how paypigs do it. Do they get a sense of accomplishment or ownership or something?

>>9173551
Same, but instead of dropping an akasupa I membered her and superchatted some other male to say hi honey.

>>9159217
This. Simps are insufferable, and there's no way around it considering they're the ones financially supporting GFE. I can't find common cause with them.

It's also cancel culture. The high minded moral gatekeeping is so extreme I don't believe anyone who catered to my niche well enough would survive or even want to become an eceleb. Lord knows I decided against it after the arkademon fiasco broke this camel's back. The end goal seems to be driving men out of the streaming industry. But because women are too vapid and shallow to truly entertain me, that in turn drives me away from watching streams.

Vtubing is a fun concept, and it'll probably continue to thrive in Japan. But in the west, where rabidly purging men from online spaces is championed, streaming will be nothing more than shitposting material until it collapses in on itself from the weight of territorial militant feminism. It's like how I never used to skip a marvel movie, but won't be seeing Black Widow, the eternals, or any of the TV dramas. Back in the day when sexual harassment was commonplace and overlooked, that allowed great men to create great works of entertainment. Ripping that out of the entertainment industry to try and ideologically sanitize it will always backfire hard, and I'm not investing in a medium that's due for a woman-induced implosion.

Maybe there'll be something to salvage if ecelebs destroy themselves quickly enough. But if it's a slow collapse, I'll just stick with my Chinese Saturday morning toy commercials. Patriarchy and fun go hand in hand, even if they're about to completely ruin that as well. At least there's a fuck huge backlog to go through during the dark ages. Gonna love me some Go-Busters whenever I get time.

Vchuba fandom has reached critical mass. At this point you'd get churn at best, downward trajectory at worst.

>>9159186
I look at them just like I look at literally any other streamer. If their content is good - I follow, if it's not - I don't.
I found exactly what I was looking for and I'm happy.
I'm starting to lose interest in the bigger ones whose main shtick was cuteness, though. It just doesn't cut anymore. A streamer can't be *just* cute, they have to be entertaining aswell.

>>9173676
So are you using the Gato image ironically or not because that guy's pretty much fully into the same degree of insane devotion as simps are.
Although I doubt many simps would Kamikaze into anything

No vtuber makes good content, they all rely on either coomerbait, cute voices or cute avatars.

>>9159186
ogey

>>9173676
Of course a Gatoposter would say this shit. Blind to his own hypocrisy I see...

>>9159186
non corporate chuubas will eventually poison the well with their politics.

>>9184611
Imagine being this attached to corpos

I almost lost my interest in VTubers, but then a certain tomboyish purple dragon debuted

I love vtubers more than ever. Conversely, I'd like to see every fucker on this board that posts or responds to bait threads skinned alive.

Probably being here and the main girl I like (Korone) suddenly becoming a lot less interesting for me. I don't know what happened. Everything seems so fake after that moment she said she briefly considered quitting when something awful happened in her family. The way she went back immediately to overreacting to Pokemon Snap kind of lifted the veil

>>9173676
Anon your social studies homework is due on monday, you better get started on it or Ms. Price will really give you an earful!

Nah, but I wish there was more talk about the JP holos

>>9159186
the community became shit with unfunny jokes and constant pandering. And with my oshi it was turning into a competition to get her attention with retards writing testaments and stuff, it was not fun anymore. I still watch her but not as much as before.

Lost interest in vtubers when all I watched is Hololive. Then I just realized Hololive is just boring and I branched out and found vtubers that actually fits my taste and im more entertained than ever.

I love vtubers again.

>>9163911
was it an indie or corpo vtuber? and did they insult you directly?

>>9163911
I'm gonna guess Kiara, Ollie, Ame, Anya or Mori.

>>9171694
know their past life, or straight up in person?

>>9163911
Kiara insulted me once and it just made me hard. You need thicker skin.

Holo en 2

>>9201730
The latter.

>>9198647
Although not directly stated, this is probably an issue all these comments boil down into. Vtubers require a suspension of disbelief in order to function, the more you realize that the "happy, entertaining" attitude is just a facade the more you realize that Vtubers share more in common with your common retail worker than anything else. Yeah, they get to play games and such. But the heart of it, the "community engagement"? The "be respectful of others"? "ensure the viewer is having a good time"? That's all just customer service 101. If you gave a service clerk an anime set up and told them "Play this game, and we'll not only pay you your minimum wage but also let you earn tips", those fuckers would revolutionize the industry.
In short, vtubers require a lie in order to create the atmosphere needed for them to work. A lot of vtubers, for better or worse, actually have 0 experience dealing with that type of enviroment. The really good ones probably do have experience OR are natural gifted. I've seen people come in and just be good clerks right off the bat.
Source: 7+ retail worker.

Tl;dr: Vtubers are retail workers, but they serve autists instead of regular people. Figure that out, all the illusions they make fall apart.

>>9182276
I mean he's a fucking Zeke lover what do you expect?

>>9159186
I just got bored on catching up with so many vtubers. I also got less time now considering the pandemic is getting better In my country. Now I just keep up with my oshi's streams and I barely watch the rest. Maybe I'll watch some clips here and there but that's it.

>>9202101
goddamn. yeah I'd feel awkward as well if I realized that too

>>9159186
Realizing most of them are two-faced whores and not good people

>>9159186
Get personally invested in a 2view chuuba, it worked for me.

>>9163911
You probably deserved it faggot.

>>9159186
I was losing interest but then I dropped almost everyone and went and found someone small and sincere that no one ever talks about outside the general. Worth a try before you drop the whole thing, at least.

>>9159186
Ame taking a week long vacation and then coming back and taking another one a week later is making me lose interest in her. I had already lost interest in the rest of hololive. She was the one thing keeping me holding on. I feel like she’s going to announce any day now the doctor recommended she not to stream as much, then I’ll be officially done because there’s no way that’s true. I already don’t buy the gluten bullshit because she was so cavalier about it for months and then all of the sudden it supposedly completely incapacitated her for over a week. Just feel like she invented it as a “get out of stream free” card.

>>9159217
But if you stop coming here, (They) win. That's why you never stop coming back.

I use them as background noise except for maybe when it's a nice girl that deserves more attention like Sana so idk