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Centrion Mumei Edition
Previous thread: >>8980255

Streams
>Last Stream : [Drawing] Birbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WCG3s4bXPo

>Previous Collab: Council Meeting Gartic Phone (Kronii's channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRclI_h2H-U

>(W)hoo? (Debut Stream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2gwJ-7s0Zo

>Stream Schedule
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1431892542967197696
Journey pt.2 on Teusday
Time : 1:00 pm PDT, 4:00 pm EDT, 8:00 pm GMT, 10:00 pm CEST, 5:00 am JST

Useful Links
>Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3n5uGu18FoCy23ggWWp8tA

>Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en
LIVE: #watchMEI
FANART:#drawMEI #ムメ絵
MEME:#memeMEI

>Fanart Hunting
https://azure-gallery.net/illusts?query=vtuber%3A七詩ムメイ&kenzen=false
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=nanashi_mumei
https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/七詩ムメイ
https://twitter.com/hashtag/drawMEI?src=hashtag_click&f=live
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ムメ絵?src=hashtag_click&f=live

>Song Preview (from the debut stream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtG4Id4ArMY

>Concentrated Dosage of Hopium
https://streamable.com/meqd3h
https://streamable.com/qadsib

>> No.8988997
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1st for FUCK MANAGEMENT

>> No.8989009

>>8988924
Pressuring Mumei to try cocaine!

>> No.8989014

>>8988924
OMEGLE HATE

>> No.8989022

anything interesting happen during her stream?

>> No.8989039

>>8989022
History streams banned by management because of possible yab

>> No.8989079

>>8988970

>That's also serves as a description of the Monad, which is a Pagan Greek concept
Correct. Iirc Plato and Socrates were writing about similar at some point. The greeks were slowly figuring out monotheism logically and a lot of Aquinas works on things not explicitly Biblical were written with Aristotle's works in mind.

>> No.8989091

>>8989022
>rrats btfo'd
>keyboard asmr btfo'd
>history streams btfo'd
>POTATO history streams btfo'd
The only thing I learned is that I hate Omegay

>> No.8989119
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8989119

https://streamable.com/bsh9mu
https://streamable.com/hbbkye

>> No.8989130

>>8988924
Add the recent clip of Mumei saying she wants to /his/tory streams to the Hopium pile.

>> No.8989145

>>8989022
she made EXTREMELY cute noises.
also management sucks.

>> No.8989177

>>8988924
So the full Council collab was altered so there's no chat so what was removed? All of Owl's diaper and poop talk?

>> No.8989197

>>8989039
Fuck you Omegacuck.

>> No.8989213
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>>8989039
>>8989091
Natural history is still on the table. Her desire to do History streams, and managements refusal to allow it, does at least prove she's not just putting on the history act for her character. Whether she actually knows that much is another story, but besides the point.

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>>8989119
I want to hung her and pat her head and tell her that she can still look up all the history she wants because its not useless and she can tell me everything she's learned while we cuddle

>Ywn be face deep in booba listening to your girlfriends heartbeat while she talks to you about an obscure duchy of the Holy Roman Empire.

>> No.8989255

>>8989213
This
She is the HOPIUM autist we love confirmed
She just is very limited at the moment.
Maybe if she got more popular/money? Or would that make her even MORE limited due to "don't fix what isn't broken" management mindset like gura?

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>>8989119
I want to hug her and pat her head and tell her that she can still look up all the history she wants because its not useless and she can tell me everything she's learned while we cuddle
>Ywn be face deep in booba listening to your girlfriends heartbeat while she talks to you about an obscure duchy of the Holy Roman Empire.

>> No.8989341

>>8989119
>https://streamable.com/bsh9mu
>mic never had any issue
>just cuts out (((pea)))cock, but in such a way that you can still hear a noise
>what? did my mic cut out? i feel like my mic cut out and making it seem like i say things i didnt really say
>you know what i dont even remember what i said :^)
yeah sure

>> No.8989356

>>8989079
Arguably the concept of an unmoved mover is a "God-of-the-Gaps" fallacy.
By it's nature the prime mover is still an entity whose proof lies exclusively in the realm of rationalism and not empiricism.
That also mean it is chiefly a metaphysical as opposed to an epistemological or ethical being.

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>>8989022
She topped digging a hole for an hour. I await the 4 hour fighting game stream where she figures out how to Shoryu

>> No.8989441

>>8989039
What kind of possible yab are they afraid of when doing history about the Roman Empire or Alexander the Great or whatever?

I can understand they wouldn't want her to talk about comfort women but come on.

>> No.8989471

>>8989441
>alexander the great was a greek king
North Macedonia: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.8989473

>>8989039
big if true

>> No.8989491

>>8989441
All history can be politicized and therefore REEEEEEEEEE'd about.

>> No.8989526

>>8989441
I think it's more that talking about history promotes nationalism in omega autists

>> No.8989531

>>8989424
It's going to be wild when they do a fighting game collab and it turns out she's actually the fighting gamer of the bunch when she perfects all 4 of them.

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>>8989119
That first one on loop is fucking killing me

>> No.8989557

>>8989356
>Arguably the concept of an unmoved mover is a "God-of-the-Gaps" fallacy.
The problem with God of the Gaps is that it relies on everything being materialistic and therefore discoverable/provable by natural methods. Hence they always argue "you put God in things we can't research yet"
But this is something you can't EVER research. Even if science proves we're actually all in a very complicated simulation and aliens are observing us for research THEY TOO have a mover and it goes all the way back to God.
You can't research it but you can figure out logically. That's the problem with most atheists, they think that Christianity is just materialists who don't understand grade 8 biology rather than a faith deep in philosophy and metaphysics as well
Also there's nothing wrong with metaphysics

>> No.8989558

>>8989526
Basically this. It would take just one person to bitch at them to back down.

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>> No.8989589

>>8989341
As expected of Lex "Mumei" luthor

>> No.8989595

>>8989526
No wonder Mumei wanted to do /his/tory streams, she wanted to spread her radical nationalism.

>> No.8989627

I expect sound posts of all the good Mumei sounds by tomorrow (protip: that's all the Mumei sounds).

>> No.8989658

>>8989177
she cut out a section where a small part of a hololive app error message appears on stream. this same error message appears on other streams so frequently that calling it a "yab" will invite ridicule from posters on this board. she had made a more invasive edit before that one, which she privated the same night, that also cut out two sections with audio clipping. the magnet i posted has an unedited VOD and the chat replay in case you want those things.

>> No.8989663

Anyone have the sauce for that Owl gif? I'm trying to make it transparent but I need higher quality

>> No.8989667

>>8989441
>Alexander the Great's ______, Hephaestion
Complete this sentence fragment about Alexander's butt buddy without creating a yab if it were said on stream.

>> No.8989682

>>8989441
Look up all the different "ism" that liberals like to bring up
>Racism
>Homophobia
>Islamophobia
>Nationalism
>Supremacism

Now look at any successful kingdom or empire in history and try to find the "ism" or "phobia" that it had to have to be successful.
That one thing will cause seething to the nth degree

Imagine if mumei was doing a crusades stream and she was taking both sides and quoting muslim historians as well but then just did a mumei-autism and said "I like the crusaders". This is a perfectly normal opinion and nobody should be upset.

She will get mass reported by communists. Unironically. /pol/ is correct about its enemies.

>> No.8989709

>>8989079
>>8989356
The whole unmoved mover idea is not really necessary. If there's no scientific way to figure out the ultimate origin of something, it might just always have existed.

>> No.8989727
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8989727

>>8989682
>"I like the crusaders"

>> No.8989733

>>8989441
Burgers dont understand context and take offense with everything.

>> No.8989760

>>8989682
Don't forget this
>>8989667
If you say somebody is NOT gay now or don't explicitly mention they were a faggot (even if its debatable) they you are "erasing history" and will get canceled. There's a reddit "sappho and her friend" dedicated to this crusade of making fags out of normal people
Heck people nowadays are arguing that JEANNE OF ARC was a crossdresser, which is LITERALLY THE ARGUMENT THE ENGLISH USED TO KILL HER. We timelooped a thousand fucking years.

>> No.8989787

>>8989441
It's more a tell-tale sign that we're living in the death throes of the information age, and you'd better get to saving everything you can.

>> No.8989824

>>8989709
Yes but you need to step by step explain that to retards which is why Aquinas did it 5 different times.

>> No.8989832

>>8989557
People complain about metaphyics because it's rationally derived by material beings and therefore subject to un-falsifiability. Like you said.
As far as I can tell, Rationalism is egotistically subjective.
Personally, I need to read more about metaphysics, my understanding of it comes from reading containment breaching /x/ Gnosticism posts, some Stoic and Platonist philosophy and a slight peak into the esoteric Traditionalist school.

My only insight into metaphyics is that the unmoved mover first moved because it wished to participate in the struggle for existence by creating or reproducing.
But that's my own Darwinian bias coloring my view.

>> No.8989855

>>8989441
China got offended by a French museum exhibit on Genghis Khan, because they're still assmad he attacked China centuries ago and tried to rewrite it.

>> No.8989871

>>8989832
>Unmoved mover
>first moved
I know what you meant in that sentence but thats funny

>> No.8989873

>>8989682
I still remember the one Touhou artist that draws the Mokou memes got absolutely swarmed by lefties for drawing a crusader-themed Mokou.

>> No.8989878
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Reminder that the problem with history streams is that it demonetizes your whole channel.
Source: some anon last thread

>> No.8989908

>>8989878
It's been mentioned before in this thread but honestly I just hope she can play some history related games and maybe talk about it while playing some.

>> No.8989914

V for victory
Lets go ol SC U.S.C! Fight on!

>> No.8989918

>>8989595
I'm not sure if this is a joke or if you think that's what I'm trying to say, but I'm just trying to say basically what >>8989471 said. I was fucking pumped when she said she was interested in doing history streams since I'm a history buff myself.

>> No.8989923
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>>8989873
Yup...
A bunch of white and (((white))) people got up in arms over a shitpost that MIGHT, and didn't even really, offend muslims

>> No.8989955

>>8989119
>Starts stream
>"...Cock"
>Refuses to elaborate further

>> No.8989975

>>8989918
I think the joke is that Mumei is herself an omega autist.

>> No.8989993
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>>8989878
>Producers of educational content are punished for trying to educate people

>> No.8990010

Can't she do history member streams if the problem is monetization? Would be an instant sign up for me.

>> No.8990023

>>8989993
Wouldn't want anyone to get any funny non-officially-sanctioned ideas now would we?

>> No.8990049

>>8990010
>Pay 5$
>Clip her saying she likes the Roman empire
>Write a 20-paragraph essay about how that is proof she is a fascist
>Send it to youtube
>revel in the Good I did for the world
>Get 5 retweets on twitter
Don't think this wouldn't happen.

>> No.8990061

>>8989878
Why would it?

>> No.8990077

>>8990061
see
>>8990023

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>>8989119

>> No.8990116

>>8988924

Aew. True to Mumei

>> No.8990124

>>8990077
Uh-huh, Again. Why would it?

>> No.8990140
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>>8990061
Controversy causes people upset to complain at youtube.
Youtubes "personal reviewers" then look and see that you said a wrongthink, even if its history
And then you get demonetized

Remember, they now arrest people in England for publically reading quotes from Winston Churchill. This is why you are either /pol/, blindly or willingly ignorant, or an enemy.

>> No.8990145

Just woke up
Be honest guys, I need clarity
Did the draw stream prove or disprove it all?

>> No.8990163
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8990163

>>8990145
She drew a very realistic peacock and has so much stream autism it still is unlikely if not impossible to be her.

>> No.8990166

>>8990145
If you still believe the rrats at this point there's no saving you.

>> No.8990195

>>8988997
>pic: how she sees herself
>reality: (mumei choking on saliva)

>> No.8990197

>>8989733

Oi yu tell'em moite. N' make ure yu got dem dawgs feets covered lest our Musliam masters get offended ya racist git

>> No.8990198

mental that mumei said she has a body pillow of godfrey de bouillon

>> No.8990214

I think this thread demonstrates nicely why history shit is a bad idea and will only attract bait posting faggots.

>> No.8990221

>>8990163
That's great. I'm relieved.
What a beautiful peacock too

>> No.8990250

>>8990049
Do you really think someone of that mindset will pay money to watch exclusive Vtuber videos to create twitter yabs? Even Kiara antis just autistically post in global to the point they watch Kiara more than the KFP themselves. Heck, Kiara said the the n word in a karaoke stream and still there are no twitter yabs from it.

>> No.8990264

>>8990250
>Do you really think someone of that mindset will pay money to watch exclusive Vtuber videos to create twitter yabs?
Two words
Coco antis

>> No.8990266

>>8990140
I'm geussing it's more or less History about 20th century and onwards they're afraid is going to upset people? It's as dumb as fuck if it's anything else even if it's in itself equally dumb.

>> No.8990276
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>>8990145
It was very entertaining watching global team up to shit on the doxxniggers. They'll be back at it again tomorrow I'm sure, but at least for a short while they'll be off our backs. It's all old rrats at this point anyway, I could care less about their validity when I just want to enjoy my autistic chubba in peace.

>> No.8990319

>YWN get an enthusiastic Mumei talking about early gunpowder warfare
>No gushing about the effectivness of Pike n shot formations
>No laughing at the inefficiency of the Carocle

God....damn it...

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>>8990266
She wanted to do ancient history but management also told her to fuck off

Remember, ancient peoples cared about being pro their race, pro their religion, and faithful to their ways of life. All of these things are now yab in the western world.
Imagine her reading a quote from almost any ancient General giving a speech.

>> No.8990323

>>8990266
She was banned from even talking about the history of rice and potatoes.

>> No.8990336
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8990336

>>8989022
>>8989039
>I forgot the exact numbers but...

>> No.8990372

>>8989341
It does cut out a few times earlier though.

>> No.8990392
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>>8989039
>>8989441
What if she played a history game and added comments here and there? Especially one with a very historically accurate campaigns?

>> No.8990396

>>8990323
Irish famine
Also India and China have a pissing match about the origins of rice

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GOD DAMNITTTTTTTTT
https://twitter.com/ituki_tasuku/status/1432581117731766272?s=20

>> No.8990436

>>8990408
I wish I liked fauna more. They go well together and its not that I'm an anti or anything but something about fauna generally puts me off compared to the rest of EN2

>> No.8990440

>>8990396
Could make up retarded reasons why not to until the cocks crowed, but it's still shit reasons.

>> No.8990455

>>8990276
I'm a bit of an idolfag (hate me if you want) so I can't deny that it would have mattered to me. Or affected my enjoyment of her I should say.
So I m glad it's over and disproven.

>> No.8990456

>She was given the character with the most potential for lore.
>Probably had all these ideas out about her streams.
>She spent all this time pre-debut getting constant rejections.
>What we got is a shy, quiet girl who can only hold in all that vast knowledge because anything sje might say can cause a yab
Ok so this is how is what being a saviorfag feels like...

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>>8989663
Ok I did it

>> No.8990463 [DELETED] 

>>8990392
We have to get her to play this.

>> No.8990482

>>8990392
Reminder they re-wrote AOE3s campaigns in the remake and names of the native Americans because of salt. And when you first boot up the game they state they did so out of "Respect" and "Accuracy" to the native traditions
>Create an alliance called the Iroquois as it was named after a founding member
>Break up the alliance century later
>Fast forward to 21st century
>Natives seethe when they see Iroquois mentioned in a videogame.

>The souix actually had war dances that were put into the game as a buff to your soldiers
>Sioux changes to Lakota because extreme autism even though both tribes lived in the same area the campaign takes in
>Crazy horse is the main characters uncle in the first game
>Had to change his name because how dare you disrespect his legacy
>Even though in the game you fight on his side....

>> No.8990496

>>8990320
"Well, here's a thing. I look at our foes and I see nothing but arse weasels! A bunch of pisserbed, cod-nibbling, rotund hoof-merchants and sheep worrying GITS!"

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>>8990456
What a tragedy.

>> No.8990521

>>8990456
It swings my pendulum over into the "don't want to support a company that hamstrings its own talent" personally. It explains why she's being so pointed with them and the dead air streams/intentional yabs. Flat out saying "I've tried everything and it won't work" about your management to the public is throwing the gauntlet down in any occupation

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8990537

>>8990456
Yup. I honestly really like gura and she was my favorite among the holos next to chammers but something about mumei has turned me full Godling and Saviourfag

>> No.8990543

>>8990436
probably the lack of autism

>> No.8990546

>>8990456
Fuck progressives and libs for holding her back. Why are woke people so FUCKING RETARDED? HOLY FUCK.

>> No.8990552

no worries guys i told her how to fix her noise gate to stop the cock yabs :)

>> No.8990565

I think this thread is proof why discussing history might not have gone so well for her. It's just a powder keg waiting to blow up.

Maybe she could talk about cool mythology though?

>> No.8990566

>>8990436
It's the opposite for me, luckily. Other than Mumei, Fauna is the only one I can stand.

>> No.8990569

>>8990546
History is racist to dead people, we can't have that.

>> No.8990579

>>8990482

Guarantee it was either a white person claiming liek 1/68th native blood to feel special or a guy running a scam hoping for a lawsuit that caused this shit

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8990581

>>8988924
Literally who?

>> No.8990586

>>8990543
Considering my second favorite of the gen is the autism clock yeah that's probably it.

>> No.8990587
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8990587

>All the dead air could have been filled with historical facts and extreme /his/ autism
>She's quiet because she's going over in her head again and again whether what she is about to say is a yab or not
>She's genuinely terrified of management and turning into another Aloe
>She tried her best to tell us about why she can't history
>She probably got scolded for that because it makes management look bad.

>> No.8990596

>>8990565
>gets greenlight for mythology
>gives her rig soulless eyes
I'd take it.

>> No.8990621

>>8990587
FUCK OMEGA

>> No.8990623

>>8990587
Swear to fuck if Omegafag scolded her after that

>> No.8990650

>>8990565
I'd be super down for mythology streams.

>> No.8990652

>>8990546

>What would Vuples Inculta do?

Modern solutions for modern problems anon

>> No.8990653

>>8990587
FUCK OMEGAY

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8990656

>>8990456
Susan why?!

>> No.8990716

I really wanna see Mumei play Fallout New Vegas
COME ON TODD

>> No.8990753

>>8990546
progressive here i want her to do /his/ style streams to i'm slowly becoming a saviour fag for her but i know radlibs would potentially come it hurts. i'm not a history buff but leftists not able to have fun hurts i'm sorry

>> No.8990762

>>8989682
>liberals
Anon, nobody gives a fuck about liberals, but if you say something chinks won't like, that's an actual yab. And you will never fucking know what innocuous historical fact will hurt their feefees.

>> No.8990769

>>8990565
>mythology
It'll just turn into religious shitposting. It's clear this whole angle just attracts cunts who want to use her as a platform to discuss off topic shit, and not people who want to talk about how cute this owl is.

>> No.8990792

>>8990566
Same, actually. It's part that I think the other 3 have awful designs, particularly Kronii's fucking intakes, and part that I don't find them interesting enough to watch over the other 30 girls I'm already watching.

>> No.8990798

>>8990762
Hololive was almost destroyed in a day because Coco said the word "Taiwan" ffs

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>>8990587
>Gura's sudden interest in history a little bit before and during EN2s debut was her doing her best to help her /his/ autist kouhai get the /his/ stream permissions by easing management to it.
>Still, not even the no.1 Vtuber could be listened to
>Mumei thus started hopium posting to create a grass root push for history streams
>We will not know if it will succeed or not
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR

>> No.8990807

>>8990762
progressive anon here this is also true in reality 99% of people wont care china is probably a bigger aspect

>> No.8990842

>>8989667
"closest companion" is probably the best way to illustrate their relationship without getting explicit.

>> No.8990852
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>> No.8990910

the best way for her to do history stream would be to play a game in a historical setting she likes, go on a natural and certainly not planned tangent doing a history lesson and just say sorry to managment if they get pissy but I don't think she's brave enough for that

>> No.8990935

>>8990910
theres no way management could fire her right? unless it was a severe breech of contract

>> No.8990964

>>8990716

Have any of the Holos played New Vegas? I know some of them did FO4 and Pekoras actually what got me watching Vtubers but have any of them played the actual GOOD ones?

>> No.8990970

>>8990935
Numbers. Numbers ensure safety, unless it's a China level yab.

>> No.8990974

>YWN have Mumei review Oversimplified
Management retardation hard at work again.

>> No.8990988

>>8989022
POTATOES PLAYERS BTFO

>> No.8990995

>>8990974
have any hololive chubbas even done twitch style reaction content?

>> No.8990998

>>8990964
Wouldn't she have to mod the game to stop it from crashing every 5 minutes?

>> No.8991021

>>8990910
Would absolutely go down in flames and be an even bigger yab than potatoes and rice because it'd be a hostile callout to Omega's authority, which trumps even China's anger

>> No.8991047
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>>8990769
>off topic shit
Okay Mr. No fun. I'm perfectly capable of both dead hours /his/ posting, and doting on our Owl wife. The occasional history chat is just the flavor of this general.

>> No.8991052
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>>8990799
>Hopium is a mumei lex luthor plan to start a grass-root movement for history streams
SHE CALLED ON US
WE CAN SAVE HER
RELY ON HOPIUM
TRUST THE PLAN

I will never stop /his/ and big brain posting in these threads anytime mumei even accidentally mentions a civilization or event

>> No.8991060

>>8990910
To be honest, the best way to skirt all possible bullshit is probably Age of Mythology.

>> No.8991085

>>8990769
She is the civilization holo
You will get Crusades posting and Roman Empire autism in this thread and you will like it!

>> No.8991105

>>8990935
Perhaps not fire, but they can definitely throw you under the bus - like they did with Coco. Literally sacrificed their biggest vtuber to appease a few bugmen antis.

>> No.8991118

>>8991085

Thats fine when its everyone spurging about history like we all have a PHD but it sucks when its a couple retards arguing over the Vikings sexuality

>> No.8991141

>Thread is now just /pol/-lite whining.
I miss when you fags said she was Lex Luthor, go back to that.

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>>8991085
>not Hundred Years War posting

>> No.8991186

>>8991141
>people on both sides of the fence in this very thread say it's shitty and wish she'd do them anyway
unironically rent-free, here's your (you), don't come back

>> No.8991197

>>8991118
>arguing over the Vikings sexuality
That wasn't even in /who/ itself, and furthermore, it was pretty funny just watching those two idiots go at it.

>> No.8991218

>>8991186
>rent-free
Oh a redditor. Come up with some OC, oh wait, you couldn't to save your dick.

>> No.8991250

>>8991141
I mean yeah war history is pretty done to the death and are pretty much /pol/bait, and it's retarded to expect a Holo to talk about shit like the rwandian genocide and the ascendance of Paul Kagame and his rejuvenation of the Rwandian nation, but even cool shit like food history (anything about Maize really), architectural history and art history being no go is annoying.

>> No.8991252

>Mumei does a history stream with a cameo by Gura singing about the Wing Hussars arriving

This Hopium is good shit

>> No.8991260

After this stream, I can't see Mumei as the shy, quiet chuuba. It makes sense now why her schedule was so barren too. People can only take rejection from management so many times till they snap.

>> No.8991263

>>8991141
I will, am, and will always /pol/post in every way I can that follows /vt/'s rules and is on topic. Complaining about history streams being banned and the communists that Yagoo is afraid of is one of those moments.

>> No.8991267

>>8990336
Eh? Is this actually true?

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>>8990587
>>8990799
is /his/ stuff really blocked by OmegaAlpha or is this theory?

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>>8990650
>>8990565
Oh, so sorry... mythology is only for hololive English–Myth.

>> No.8991292

>>8991250
>anything about Maize really
That's the problem, Its ALL /pol/ eventually. you either have blanket permissions (even if its everything pre-WW2) or none at all.
If she mentions even a sentence about how corn was discovered by the Europeans...
Heck if she uses the word "discovered" she will get canceled by "the Myans knew about corn already it didn't need discovering you are white washing history reeee"

>> No.8991299

>>8991270
She more or less said management shot her down, omegle is the embodiment of EN2 management so we are rolling with it.

>> No.8991301

>>8991270
Omega is a good object to hate because of how pointless whatever it is.

>> No.8991308

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A17oUv0E-N4

All of this mythology posting is making me want to see Mumei play Age of Mythology.

>> No.8991309

mumeiのmune...

>> No.8991318

>>8991270

Its a RRAT. It could be anything from fear of China to Cover just wanting to play it overly safe and triple check everything to avoid getting protested by Twitter tourists

>> No.8991319
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>>8991260
No wonder Kronii mentioned Mumei snapping from out of the blue. It has actually happened whether it's in Discord DMs or Discord Voice Chat with the rest of her genmates. That terrifying image of angry Mumei is stuck in her head.

>> No.8991343

>>8991270
I thought it was a rrat, then I watched the stream. It's all true, and even if she didn't mention Omega specifically, there are only so many people who would be able to swat down the history lesson ideas.

>> No.8991359

omegafaggot please go

can't even do human history streams...

>> No.8991373

>>8991308
Age of Mythology campaign playthrough would be great.

>> No.8991376

>>8991270
We still don't know what Omegafag actually IS but whatever it is it's in some way related to management of Gen2 and it makes itself very easy to hate with all its chunni self insert bullshit.

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>>8991318
ah makes sense, twitterfags did fuck up Mozilla when they found out the CEO donated personal money to a Republican. Fear is understandable

>> No.8991394

>>8991319
>Mumei snapping was her going an an entire history of China rant and about how useless and gay they are before switching topics inexplicitly to the jews and how they control the media finally concluding in using both of those as an example of why Cover is too cowardly to let her stream history.
>This was during a holocouncil Discord meeting with management
>Sana and Bae laughing like shitposting aussies
>Kronii shocked she found a woman with more Masculine energy than her
>Fauna fell in love
>Manager probably just went "anyway...." and completely ignored her.

>> No.8991398

>>8991373
"Arkantos, awaken..."

>> No.8991406

>>8991319
I have a hard time imagining Mumei angry from what we've seen of her. I wonder what that's like.

>> No.8991408

omegafaggot hate

>> No.8991430

>>8991378
They also canceled five nights at freddys within 24 hours and caused the creator to step down because they doxxed his donation history and found out he gave to trump.
They went so far that MatPat the Game Theorist had to do a video basically pretending to be nice to scott when it was a self-preservation video explaining why he can still do FNAF theories

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I do find it interesting though how she specified Ancient History, as if Modern History is any less of a mine field. Specifically with the whole "history repeats itself" thing. I could see the Bronze Age ruffling some feathers due to comparisons with modern globalization.

>> No.8991445

>Mumei starts first history stream
>/vt/ has been waiting for this
>"In August of 1619..."

>> No.8991450

Alright History chads. What are the must play history games?

>> No.8991454

>>8991376

It could be anything from a glorified fanfic writers self-insert hijacking the lore for her own power fantasy to a Manager in a funny suit. Its best not to guess until we know more

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>>8991436
>Mumei will never talk about how justified hadrian was and cause the ADL to cancel hololive causing the final yab
its not fair...

>> No.8991465

>>8991436
>Mumei does a Bronze Age stream
>calls out SEA peoples
how much you supachat?

>> No.8991469

>>8990807
You have to go back

>> No.8991475

>>8990565
I think Greek or Roman mythology could be work. However, knowing Cover they'd probably not even risk it.

>> No.8991483

>>8991454
You're right but it's still retarded and therefore I will consider it the face of manger hate until informed otherwise.

>> No.8991484

>>8991406
Well considering how good she is at constructively using spite, actual anger would be pretty ugly to witness. Doesn't seem like someone who vents easily, probably has big outbursts and decided to roll that into the character. Personally, I think she's a little too kino for her own good

>> No.8991507

>>8991465
flips truly are the strongest race...

>> No.8991511

>>8991319
>No wonder Kronii mentioned Mumei snapping from out of the blue.
when was this?

>> No.8991516

>>8991252
Gura's "this might be a bit yab, but what isn't these days" before singing the last stand has a whole new dimention now
>>8991436
from the way she talked she seems to specify ancient because she understands the autism anything after the fall of rome will bring

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>>8991430
>>8991378
>should have supported gamergate
first they came for the gamers and people did nothing

>> No.8991541

>>8991450
If you're just getting into history, Europa Universalis 4 and Crusaders Kings 2 or 3 despite the reception among higher tier history autist are good gateways to further history autism. That said, I have not played EU4 for a long time, and Ive heard the latest dlc fucked many things over, might want to play something else for now.

>> No.8991576

>>8991538
Its frogposting so ill just describe it.
There's a shitpost image of a pepe in a nazi outfit pointing a luger at a tranny and he says "Why did you do this? All I wanted was to play videogames"
Add anime to that and you have unironically my ideology.

>> No.8991588

>>8991436
>As if modern history is any less of a minefield
>Specifically with the whole "history repeats itself" thing.
She was stumbling pretty hard on her words there, felt more like she was trying to make an in-character comment about all of history being bad and ended up making it worse. Was actually pretty cute.

>> No.8991591

Lets also not forget she never said No history streams ever just not now. My guess is that they will do the very Japanese thing of needlessly triple checking everything through some pointless middle manager and that will take so much time it couldnt be a regular thing

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>> No.8991650

>>8991635
Based. Fuck 'em.

>> No.8991665

>No personality besides cutesy anime voice
Honorary NijiEN

>> No.8991671

>>8991591
What if its not the yabs they are worried about?
What if cover is autistic and demands you get explicit permissions from every source she reads from and that's just way to hard to figure out?
Games permissions are already cancer. Imagine trying to find the copyright holder of a book from 500 BC that was translated in 2019 and therefore the translation is under copyright

>> No.8991705

>>8991671
Wouldn't prevent her from talking about history or reading from wiki.

>> No.8991706
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>>8991465
>Age of Mythology
>Age of Empires
Swerve peasants, make way for the true civilisation warfare experience.

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>>8991671
I forgor

>> No.8991718

>>8991705
Ah but anon the wiki has sources and you have to get permission from those sources to read the wiki.

>> No.8991730

>>8991450
Anyone here tried that Discovery Tour thing in the recent Assassin's Creed games? Sounds like it would be a good and "safe" way to talk about certain bits of history.

>> No.8991734

>>8991706
Has anyone streamed old flash games?

>> No.8991747

>>8991671
YE OLDE ENGLISH

except the scan itself is also copyrighted
the transcript to a digital file too

>> No.8991759

>>8991635
>We can't because she won't have time to roleplay for my epic chuuni lore

>> No.8991763

>>8988924
Is it true that shes only popular here because of saviorfagging?

>> No.8991769

>>8991711
/vt/ writes wikipedia entries?

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>>8991511
during her last stream I think?

>> No.8991791

>>8991671

Free use laws keep that sort of thing free. Hell Disney is struggling to extend copyright laws so they dont lose Mickey already

>> No.8991796

>>8991747
i went through this a long time ago when i was uploading scans of stuff like the exeter book to wikimedia commons. mere scans aren't transformative enough and you can just copy them. copyright starts to matter when you're talking about a normalized transcription or a translation.

>> No.8991817

>>8991791
>Hell Disney is struggling to extend copyright laws so they dont lose Mickey already
Dude disney is the one that's changed the copyright laws to the autism they currently are specifically to keep mickey. It used to be significantly easier

>> No.8991883

>>8991763
Civilization is made out of hope, dreams and potential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A

>> No.8991902

>>8991817

I am aware and its not surprising considering how attached to his characters Walt was. He was trying to get Oswald back on his deathbed

>> No.8991946

>>8991883
Any chance for Mumei to play Civ4? I'm sure she has the autism for it if she can handle zoo tycoon...

>> No.8991987

>>8991763
The girl emanates a very special charm but most (including here) don't actually understand it. It really has nothing to do with history.

>> No.8992102
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>adorable bird
>first game played is wandering off to a mountain
Bros...

>> No.8992182

>>8991946

>Bought Civ4 cheap during stream sale
>Spend thousands of years without touching other civilization outside of their scouts
>Advanced into industrial age
>Suddenly stack of hordes of Macemen and catapults on edge of vision appear
>Have to suddenly pivot entire nation to unit production
>Through sheer numbers they eventually break through giant casualties
>Spend years taking city back
>Triggers partisans that just wreck more infrastructure before all dying
>Civ is angry about being in "pointless' war this long and civil is crippled by protestors

and yet I still loved the game

>> No.8992224

>>8990852
I've never had someone look at me like that. Maybe someday.

>> No.8992254

Mumei, just play Stellaris. Space civilizations are also civilizations.

>> No.8992262

>>8991406
She's probably something like Hatoko's speech

>> No.8992338

Fuck I hate /hispol/ fags
The owl deserves better

>> No.8992340

Watching Mumei feels less like what I'm used to from a person streaming, and more like and brand new friend slowly but steadily showing me their interests as the days pass by.

>> No.8992347

>>8992254
Sci-fi shouldn't be yab r-right?

>> No.8992363

>>8992102
>that one look the penguin takes before walking to his certain death
I never was an animal guy but I would spend my life helping him get to his destination if I was able

>> No.8992412

>>8991783
i found it in the hollow knight stream by searching the chat log. it seems like she was just responding to a comment from a viewer:
1:46:39 | Doodeols: is tht why mumei snapped?
https://youtu.be/mBSloOzSRI4?t=6407

>> No.8992429

>>8992338
>this is the kind of person that prevented the potato history streams

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>>8992123
>>8992123
>>8992123

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>>8992338
Depends.

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>>8992254
If she played that I'd have a nice excuse to bump up its priority in my backlog

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>>8992347
Depends.

>> No.8992489

>>8992478
he did nothing wrong

>> No.8992497

>>8992363
You wouldn't have to spend that long, not even if you were just walking alongside them. Sad truth is they don't really know where they're going. Speaking of cosmic horrors, I wonder if Mumei would be game for Grime. Time will tell.

>> No.8992499

>>8992338
People like you are probably why Yagoo fears the tater famine history lesson

>> No.8992504

>>8992440
That first part... sounds just like her. Welp

>> No.8992506

>>8992338
>make civilization themed bird vtuber
>immediately clip her wings because of political autism
>people who look forward to it get understandably angry
>"It's alright though becuase those people were /pol/fags"
No words can describe the contempt I feel for you faggots

>> No.8992566

Doxxfags, /pol/fags, and saviorfags. What did Mumei do in a past life to deserve this?

>> No.8992567

>>8992489
he literally did nothing wrong, and that is why he did everything wrong.

>> No.8992586

>>8992340
I was thinking of writing about this appeal later.
But in short, Mumei acts much more like a real unironic anime girl than the usual "streamer with an anime avatar"

>> No.8992648

>>8991671
Everything from Ancient History is public domain already, it's modern writings that get fucked by permissions and copyright laws

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>>8992102

>> No.8992686

>>8992648
Translations can by copyrighted because the publisher that posts the translation has the authority to DMCA anybody copying their works or using them without permission

Guess what language the ancients speak? Not english.

>> No.8992711

>>8991263
Cover is capitalist, that's why they avoid business risks; they pander to cultural norms rather than having their own. Actual communists would make propaganda even if it costs them.

>> No.8992721

I don't care about the management shit, I just came to say her singing to herself during the drawing stream was cute as shit and I love her. God, why is en2 so top tier? I thought myth was great but god damn council just blows theem out of the water

>> No.8992730 [DELETED] 

>>8992440
There's no way you guys can seriously deny it's HER after this, right...?

>> No.8992766

>>8992730
It still sounds different.
Gura and gura's HER sound identical
Ame and Ame's HER sound identical
Mumei and HER sound only somewhat identical,

>> No.8992798 [DELETED] 

>>8992766
>Mumei and HER sound only somewhat identical
So this is the level of cope we've reached, huh...

>> No.8992818

>>8992730
If it means you guys keep off our thread, then yes, i will.

>> No.8992824

>>8992798
Ive maintained this stance since the vocaroo examples.
I can see why people thought initially it was her but after these streams its clearly not.
Then again ive reached the level of replying to printers so....

>> No.8992839

>>8992506
kys or go back to /pol/
Everyone hates your board

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>>8992824

>> No.8992853
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Remember owlbros

>> No.8992872

>>8992766
Most vtubers change their voice to a certain extent so expecting them to sound identical is a bit silly. Not to mention different audio setups can drastically change the way you sound. Kronii doesn't sound identical to her past self either.

>> No.8992875

huh! the jannies weren't fags today

>> No.8992881

>>8992839
Imagine being upset that one of the biggest boards on the chans supports your chubba and wants your chubba to do what she genuinely wants to do.

>> No.8992883

>>8992338
It's a bit ironic for you to say she deserves better when you yourself don't want the shy, autistic girl to be able to talk about her interests freely.

>> No.8992983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPi_ZG1VgHE
Stream up
11 hours

>> No.8992996

>>8992686
Historical facts and primary ancient sources can't be copyrighted. For example, you can't copyright the fact that Ceasar invaded Gaul. And you can obtain a PDF of his account of the Gallic Wars (De Bello Gallico) online. However, if a historian decided to translate De Bello Gallico AND add his own original annotations, comments and analysis, well that's an issue, because it isn't just about what Caesar said, but because you are also reading on how said historian interpreted whatever Caesar said.

>> No.8993008

>>8992983
>30 minutes of gameplay left
What is she going to do for the rest of the time?

>> No.8993030

>>8993008
something else

>> No.8993066

>>8993008
She told me earlier that she'd be doing karaoke afterward.

>> No.8993069

>>8993030
But what?

>> No.8993085

>>8993069
Play it again.

>> No.8993088

>>8993066

Thanks Fauna

>> No.8993330

>>8989733
*the United States is approaching collapse because california ruins everything

>> No.8993339

>>8991267
Yes

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>>8989441
>and then Emperor Hadrian killed hundreds of thousands of Jews and it was glorious
would of been a funny yab though.

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>>8991576
Frogs are based though.

>> No.8993389

I love history as a subject, it can inform us about where we come from and how the future might play out based on dynamics we can observe in past societies.

Shame it's treated as political (by people on all sides of the political spectrum). It leads to (a) a sense of pride in past achievements, even though they literally had no part in them (b) suspectibility to mindless bootlicking by emphazising national, cultural, religious etc unity rather than individual worth and achievement.

Don't identify with past people who'd be disgusted with your lifestyle as a coping mechanism while others exploit that weakness for power and wealth.

>> No.8993392

>>8991430
It wasn't even trump it was rando Republican politicians from his area

>> No.8993450

>>8992872
She does sound similar to HER but Mumei's mannerisms and way of speaking seems very different. From the way she's behaving I really don't believe she's ever entertained a million people and she's reserved to a point where it can't all be acting.

>> No.8993468

>>8989682
Historian here, you're a nigger and the reason people disregard our concerns about historical content being demonitized because of retards like you who make us look bad. Youtube's shit policies after the Syrian war have made any and I mean any historical conflict get you demonitized it's not hurr leebrolls it's Susan being a cunt.

>> No.8993471

>>8992766
>Ame and Ame's HER sound identical
have you ever even listened to them?

>> No.8993490

>>8993471
I recall Ame pitching her voice up otherwise they're literally the same

>> No.8993500

>>8992881
Not him, but of course I want her to do what she wants. I don't care for /pol/'s desire for her to be 'based' by parroting their views o hyper focusing on /pol/ related topics

>> No.8993508

I don't understand how history can be controversial if you just talk about it neutrally without taking a side or injecting personal value opinions?

>> No.8993549

>>8993468
What happened in the Syrian war exactly that affects youtube?

>>8993508
This requires a ton more research by multiple sources tho, we as humans can't help but be biased and have 'good guys' and 'bad guys' in our head

>> No.8993584

i think 'meimei' as a nickname is very cute

>> No.8993600

>>8993584
literally chinese for little sister

>> No.8993614

>>8993468
Susan's trying her best to be a profit-maximizing CEO like the rest of them. You can blame the player for playing their part, but in my opinion it's mostly the system.

>> No.8993627

>>8993549
Attacks were posted uncensored ala liveleak, also during the Turkish coup you could see bodies without heads on livestream. Advertisers cried and now you cannot use the words: war conflict battle attack in a historical context. Which is why most history channels depend on patreon and alternative platforms, great courses+ etc.

>> No.8993634

>>8993584
>Most call her Mumei
>Her genmates and (You) use the nickname Meimei
Guess I'll be the last owlbro to refer to her as Nanashi...

>> No.8993649
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8993649

>>8993508
>how can history be controversial if you just talk about it neutrally?
Holy shit, that was a good laugh. Exquisite meme, anon

>> No.8993672

>>8993614
Sadly but imagine science channels getting demonitized because of conspiracy Vax bullshit by Q boomers. History is a very important topic to show the world and its honestly disgusting youtube makes it almost impossible to teach people and make some money on the side.

>> No.8993694 [DELETED] 

>>8993389
You can be both be proud of both your personal achievements and events beyond your control which define and construct your identity, literal self and the identity of those you care for.

>a sense of pride in past achievements, even though they literally had no part in them
People tend to have an egoistic and intrinsic self-worth, because of this they appreciate the things out of their control which contribute to their own existence as wish to see those endure as they produce an environment which create greater personal and kin-group fitness.

>suspectibility to mindless bootlicking by emphazising national, cultural, religious etc unity rather than individual worth and achievement.
Humans are social animals, also your kin are your extended geno-type. Hyper individualism is a dead end especially in environments where ethnocentrism or humanitarianism is selected for.
Also those values derived from religious, cultural or national unity can regulate anti-social or other consequentially bad behavior by created followable standards that encourage personal achievement via group accountability.

>Don't identify with past people who'd be disgusted with your lifestyle as a coping mechanism while others exploit that weakness for power and wealth.
Gain a more nuanced view of collectivism as a means to understand and appreciate its enduring fecundity as an aspect of human behavior.

>> No.8993718

>>8993627
>Advertisers cried
If anything got ruined, it's almost always start with this. That seems like an idiotic leap to ban though, but I'm not even surprised since it's youtube.

>> No.8993724

>>8993549
Remember anon, history is written by the Victor.

>> No.8993730

>>8991783
I'm glad you liked that pic, anon.

>> No.8993739

>>8993508
your sources will be taking a side and injecting personal values/opinions. Even if you did the in depth research required to only present historical facts and not some past historians opinions you would still anger people that don't like the facts

>> No.8993746

>>8993724
Well yeah, history is and always has been biased but that doesn't mean it's not interesting or we can't learn from it.

>> No.8993767

>>8993389
You can be both be proud of both your personal achievements and events beyond your control which define and construct your identity, literal self and the identity of those you care for.

>a sense of pride in past achievements, even though they literally had no part in them
People tend to have an egoistic and intrinsic self-worth, because of this they appreciate the things out of their control which contribute to their own existence and wish to see those things endure as they have demonstrably produced an environment which created greater personal and kin-group fitness.

>suspectibility to mindless bootlicking by emphazising national, cultural, religious etc unity rather than individual worth and achievement.
Humans are social animals, also your kin-group is your extended geno-type. Hyper individualism is a dead end especially in environments where ethnocentrism or humanitarianism are selected for.
Also those values derived from religious, cultural or national unity can regulate anti-social or other consequentially bad behavior by created followable standards that encourage personal achievement via group accountability.

>Don't identify with past people who'd be disgusted with your lifestyle as a coping mechanism while others exploit that weakness for power and wealth.
Gain a more nuanced view of collectivism as a means to understand and appreciate its enduring fecundity as an aspect of human behavior.

>> No.8993773

>>8993468
> it's not hurr leebrolls it's Susan being a cunt
So liberals AND jews
got it

>> No.8993783

>>8993508
There is no scenario where you can teach a set of facts without your values getting involved. Even if you present every single source that has ever mentioned the topic in full, that in and of itself still shows a bias (note that bias does not equal agenda). That's just for presenting the cold facts, too. Any interpretation or discussion would magnify this problem immeasurably. It's in cover's best interest to nix the idea entirely to avoid this as best as possible. It's unfortunate but unavoidable when you have to juggle /pol/niggers, twitter trannies, and everyone else in your audience and keep them all as entertained as possible

>> No.8993799

>>8993773
I can smell this post

>> No.8993800

>>8993634
>Nanashi
Who?

>> No.8993837

Looking at this thread, Cover clearly made the sensible decision. History discussion brings out seething autists of all stripes.

>> No.8993899
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8993899

>>8993837
Sad but true. Let's look forward to Mumei's stream today and leave the people arguing like their life depended on it to their excercises.

>> No.8993906

>>8993767
Troy didn't fall so you could spend your nights cumming into your mumei onahole faggot, get some self awareness.

>> No.8993919

>>8993837
Of course it was, but the anger and resentment stems from them even teasing it as a concept of character when they fully knew that shit wasn't going to mesh. You make a character that embodies civilization, gets backpedaled to be the guardian of civilization, then is just an owl girl drawing cocks and bitching about management being retarded. This is more cathartic for people than anything, and makes the already sour reception of the forced lore angles a smoking crater

>> No.8993932

>>8992683
That could be an interesting stream alright, if that truly is a game. Or one of those talk streams that has a simplistic game in the back.

>> No.8994003
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8994003

>>8993008
End and start Shadow of the Colossus half an hour later.

>> No.8994005

>>8993906
Cope, seethe and learn to read.

>> No.8994006

>>8993919
Well, she could do Tech reviews, since tech is one of the facets of civilization.

As well as history of objects.

>> No.8994011

>>8991635
>People can just spam the Chunni cunt if they don't like what they are doing with managment
Why don't people do it? It's like an alternative petition, contacting your local politicians to try and sway them to take your votes

>> No.8994065

>>8993932
It's a Konami game for the NES. It was on the virtual console up until the Wii U.

>> No.8994075

>>8994006
You're really nice and I appreciate your optimism, but ultimately lament your impending despair

>> No.8994088

>>8994006
>Talk about electricity
>Invoke Edison vs Tesla war of morality
>Create anti-governemnt free electricity internet explosion

>> No.8994105

>>8994006
This, I just want to see her struggle in Factorio

>> No.8994166

>>8993800
Mumei is cute and has less syllables, but it doesn't sound like a real name. If you want a shorthand to write her, 774 is better.

>> No.8994192

Both Nanashi and Ceres would have been better and cuter first names than Mumei and Fauna

You can't change my mind.

>> No.8994205

>>8994192
Nanashi is too generic.

>> No.8994219
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8994219

HELP ME, STEP-OWL
IM STUCK IN THE PRINTER

>> No.8994241

>>8994192
Ceres? Sure. Nanashi? No.

>> No.8994285

>>8994166
i know most holofags (newfags especially) don't get out much, but 774 is taken

>> No.8994297

>>8994192
Well, Mumei as name reminds me of a character from that zombie apocalypse anime so I'm okay with that

>> No.8994317

Fine I'll call her nana4chan

>> No.8994320

>>8994192
I especially dislike the Fauna name because it's just so fucking wrong to call anybody that. It's like naming someone Warranty or StoreAisle - it's just a part of a system. Ceres is actually a very cool name. They could have just made it inspired by the term fauna but not literally just-that, like "faunlia" or something. Then again Holos' names don't often really have depth to them.

For Mumei it's just a riff on Anonymous for both her names so doesn't really matter but yeah Nanashi sounds way prettier and shortens much nicer to Nana which is a valid nip nickname.

>> No.8994325
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8994325

Mumei should play strategy games that are non-historical like Total War Warhammer 2

>> No.8994354

>>8994297
>12 years old

But her VA married protag's VA.

>> No.8994369

>>8994285
I know, but calling owl 774 after the author of nagatoro is funny

>> No.8994383

All the overdone lore is so jarring to me, especially when you consider that Gura's *official* lore written on her youtube page is literally
>A descendant of the Lost City of Atlantis, who swam to Earth while saying, "It's so boring down there LOLOLOL!" She bought her clothes (and her shark hat) in the human world and she really loves them. In her spare time, she enjoys talking to marine life.

>> No.8994410

>>8994192
Ceres is a Roman goddess (the one cereals are named after). I guess most people wouldn't mind, but I'd feel stupid associating an anime girl streaming Minecraft with the goddess of agriculture and fertility. If you're gonna have shitty lore, at least make it original.

>> No.8994481

>>8994383
Absolutely, but hopefully the talents themselves will be able to drop it at least partially over time, especially in terms of stream content because there's only so many games based directly in the character's theme that will also be interesting to the talents.

>> No.8994540

>>8994192
just call her Muumin

>> No.8994554

>>8994383
It's just some nice context for fans to run wild with and give inspiration to them and the chuuba. Not like they get penalized for not following the lore. Helps the newer gens who have to find a place for themselves find it that much sooner. When their personal traits take over the streams and fan works, great.

>> No.8994582

>>8994540
Only now did I consider the possibility of Moomei
It's bound to happen at some point

>> No.8994627

>>8994540
Funny you mention that, Mumei as Snufkin is on the to-draw list.

>> No.8994649

>>8994383
Yeah and then the OmegaAlpha shit on top of it, is all collectively "WHO THE FUCK ASKED FOR THIS??" It indicates some kind of severe disconnect or some marketing bozo getting middle/upper management to drink some off-brand kool-aid.

That or they think they're being trailblazers in some innovative novel experiment with lore focus, when in reality it clearly doesn't matter much to any of these new ENs besides as a convenient foil for Mumei to act actually-tarded on. Baelz seems to have given her lore like 2 sentences lipservice to it the entire time so far, and actually pauses for a second before using it even for a pretty-normal incidence of as a euphemism of whatever she was before becoming that tuber.. she hesitates to even use it for that.

>> No.8994703

>>8991763
Yes

>> No.8994730

>>8994582
The finnish way to write it is
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muumi
but I have also seen it written as muumin

>> No.8994732

>>8994166
>>8994192
>>8994540
Meimei is cuter.

>> No.8994747

For me, it's Moomers

>> No.8994755

>>8994732
only if you have a reddit account

>> No.8994897

I think she's growing on me. Her drawing VOD was cure for my soul as BGM for work while hungover

>> No.8995060
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8995060

PREVIOUSLY
Ch. 1 >>8899295
Ch. 2 >>8933911

>It's meeting day.
>"I'm nervous as heck. I hope I know what I'm doing. Lord please give me guidance if I am lost." said Mumei
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Bj_C4mbZw
>Four person appear in the dying screen of her Toshiba laptop, Azure-sensei the concept illustrator, Yagoo himself, and the creative director, and a translator
>"Hajimemashite, Mumei-san desu. Dozo yoroshiku."
>Oddly enough, her microphones did not pick up her voice.
>"Mumei-san, are you saying something? Do you have a microphone issue on your end?"
>Suddenly, a hairy, four legged creature appeared behind her, its her service dog.
>The dog that has served together with Father Simon in Desert Storm operation, as an EOD unit.
>He jumped toward her laptop and immediately changed her audio device from "Virtual Microphone" to "Default Device"
>"Oh wow, such a cute dog. Oh hey, we can listen to your voice now! How are you today Mumei?"
>They exchanged pleasantries, had a little chat with her.
>The creative director showed her character’s Mumei design (pic related)
>A fantasy ranger with a bow, taking inspirations from Amber and a bit from Goblin Slayer elf.
>Surprised, Mumei bursts out “It-its cute but its too indecent for me. Oh brother, I can’t use the avatar, otherwise they’ll call me a whore”.
>The creative director was shocked. “Listen here, we spent 10 months designing this character you wheelch-“
>Yagoo interrupts the director, “Well Mumei-san, is there any changes you wanted to propose for us?”
>”Can you make her belly covered? And I would prefer a more decent top than an exposed bare shoulders. My whole town would make fun of me if I streamed with such getup.”
>”I can’t use a bow, it's impossible for me to draw it without standing up. A 1H weapon fits better for me, I can roll towards people closer so I can hit them with my sword!” As she recalls her blurry TTRPG session memories.
>The translator tries to hold his laugh.
>Yagoo stands up; “You heard the woman, I want the changes by my desk next week”
>Azure-sensei nods in agreement, but the creative director refuses. “Yagoo-san, lets just not do this, lets save our time and save her for 3rd Vsinger instead. We still have the contact details from Sa-“
>Yagoo stares at the director, ”Well I have Kakage-sensei phone on quick dial. And director-san, I heard there is a vacancy as Towa-sama’s manag-“
>”Apologies Yagoo-san. I will contact the team to make the changes right away.”

>> No.8995062

>>8994732
Meimei is 'little sister' in Chinese.

>> No.8995137

>>8995062
Yes, that makes it cuter.
>t. Zhang

>> No.8995195

>>8994732
Mumein like the moomin troll. They are both cute and innocent looking.

>> No.8995250
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8995250

Have you triple crowned her yet?

>> No.8995352

>>8994730
Fascinating

>> No.8995367

>>8995250
I haven't thought of Genshin much despite all the people I'm subscribed to/follow who play it. Makes me a little sad that I forgot about that lass. Anyway, that's a great look.

>> No.8995403

>>8995250
I don't play genshin

>> No.8995435

I finally looked into her. Journey was nice. I only wish she had a better PC, however, it is kind of amusing to see her marvel at its quality yet her capture software can't thoroughly display what she's enjoying.

>> No.8995507

>>8993767

>You can be both be proud of both your personal achievements and events beyond your control which define and construct your identity, literal self and the identity of those you care for.
Those should inspire gratitude, which in turn leads to ambition to do deeds you can actually be proud of. Skipping straight to feeling proud just incentivizes resting on your laurels; case in point every realm that still felt superior to their neighbors as it was about to be crushed by them.

>Humans are social animals, also your kin-group is your extended geno-type. Hyper individualism is a dead end especially in environments where ethnocentrism or humanitarianism are selected for.
>Gain a more nuanced view of collectivism as a means to understand and appreciate its enduring fecundity as an aspect of human behavior.
Hyperindividualism is shit. I'm grateful for the people who actually did the vast majority of the work it took to enable me to grow and strive: My family, my friends and the community we live in. The further removed the people I work for are, the more likely they are to see me as part of their powerbase, as part of a manpower pool, as a number on a sheet. Even if they did contribute to my life in a roundabout way, they didn't do it for me.
I'm loyal to the people whom I know personally and who value me as their fellow man. I could care less about their genes, there's some person thousands of miles away that has, genetically, more in common with me than my neighbour that gave me some of his milk when I had none. Deeds matter, not concepts. Might as well be a communist and talk about class collectivism, it's the same shit with different buzzwords.

>Also those values derived from religious, cultural or national unity can regulate anti-social or other consequentially bad behavior by created followable standards that encourage personal achievement via group accountability.
Yes, but the more bloated bureacracies and hiearchies become, the easier it is for higher-ups, surrounded by their cronies, to ignore those standards. The vast majority of their followers lives far away and can't verify any accusations. But if the corruption is exposed, it will lead to the erosion of those standards - first in the shadows that complex systems inevitably create, then openly if it spreads. People will turn into opportunistic powergrabbers under the guise of their original "noble" goal that can't be questioned.
It's ironic to state this on /vt/, but large collectivist systems like nationalism or globalism rely on parasocial relationships in which the vast majority follow an imagined ideal leader - the actual leaders just have to use the vast resources at their disposal to appear as if they actually were that ideal leader while they can exploit, promote or silence whoever they want.


tl;dr Ditch the licking of boots whose wearers will never give a fuck about you personally and be proud after you've supported your family, friends etc that raised and supported you.

>> No.8995590

>check /who/
>wall of text
>close /who/

>> No.8995667
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8995667

>>8993085
This is honestly a thing I can see happening : she finishes the game (whatever the time it will take), then as soon as the credit roll ends, she eventually restart a game, not to finish it but to commentate on the game, her appreciation over some gameplay.

>> No.8995754
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8995754

>>8995060
Glorious work writefriend! Take this cute owl as a token of appreciation.

>> No.8995796

Mumei Subnautica?

>> No.8995858

>>8995060
>I heard there is a vacancy as Towa-sama’s manag-“
rumao

>> No.8995940

>>8995250
>genshit shitpact

>> No.8996090

I am incredibly sad. History of potatoes is one of the few topics my country is relevant in.

>> No.8996145

>>8990807
>progressive
Biggest misnomer in politics. You're a cultural Marxist.

>> No.8996199

>>8990995
Forbidden from showing non-Holopro content on stream. They can listen/watch to themselves and react but they're afraid of copyright issues.

>> No.8996246

>>8989760
She was guilty of crossdressing though, it's not "the argument," she was convicted of it in a court of law.

>> No.8996409 [DELETED] 

>>8995507
We're going off topic.
See this here.
>>>/pol/336998727

>> No.8996556
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8996556

>>8989022
___COCK

>> No.8996602

I'm Irish and wouldn't mind her talking about the potato history

>> No.8996627

>>8996246
"The arguement" that the english made extrapolated from the fact that she dressed up as a male soldier to prove that she was a sinner that wasn't with god via homosexuality. Read the context.

>> No.8996649

>>8995250
>>8995062
Aw hell naw! Taiwan is a country.

>> No.8996679

Just put her in Minecraft and let her autism take over. She's EN Moona and Aqua in one person.

>> No.8996712

>>8994192
Nanashi Mumei roughly translates into No-Name Anonymous so we're calling her Anon in nip

>> No.8996897

>>8996602
Im a Brit with Irish ancestry, and i too wouldn't mind her talking about the potato history.

>> No.8996954

>>8996602
I am Peruvian and I concur.

>> No.8997029

>>8996602
I'm a potato and I am vehemently opposed to it.

>> No.8997127

nakadashi nanashi

>> No.8997140

>>8997127
Anal Anon

>> No.8997178

I will be the one who will play with Mumei. This time for sure.

>> No.8997272

>>8996712
I know.
The point is that Nanashi is a cute name. It's quick and fun to say and cute too.
Mumei sounds like some fat gerbil.

>> No.8997338
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8997338

Passed out while waiting for the stream woke up watch the vod but it wasn't the same without you Owlbros

>> No.8997352
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8997352

Fuck
I feel like destroying shit
I never expected that some stream of some anime girl will make me this angry
I am resonable man, I have work, I have things to worry about
But this owlgirl and her struggles with menagment just speaks to me on spiritual level
I swear to God, If Mumei will not be able to do history streams, If they will be intentionaly stoping her from doing what she likes, if they incompetence will bother her again, I will bring this Omegafaggot down, one way or another

>> No.8997417

>>8997352
it explains why her past streams felt a bit unprepared for... she was probably really excited for this but it just couldnt work out...

>> No.8997428

>>8997352
Go back to /pol/

>> No.8997449

>>8997428
Stop shilling your board with false flagging

>> No.8997454

>>8997352
I can't believe an owlbro will be responsible for the final yab of pulling a Kyoani on the Cover office

>> No.8997489

>>8997352
If you want to signal your dissatisfaction then DM the EN producer's LARP account on Twitter instead of shouting into the void here

>> No.8997493

>>8997454
And it will turn out to be the day Mumei was visiting the office to talk with Yagoo about the EN management issue. Unfortunately, being bound by wheelchair, she could never make it to the fire escape.

>> No.8997517

>>8995060
>And director-san, I heard there is a vacancy as Towa-sama’s manag-
I dont know why this made me laugh so hard
Perfection

>> No.8997537

>>8997352
You don't understand, this is all a massive ARG. (Alt reality game, not Argentinian pesos)
Omega plays the villain and we must defeat her by supporting Mumei. Only when anons of all nations support her will she be able to break free from Omegle's control.

>> No.8997613

>>8997537
so what you are saying is that cover wants us to go Kyoani on them

>> No.8997645

>>8997613
Yes, as soon as you make into the building Yagoo will show up clapping his hands and personally congratulate you. Mumei will then roll in and kiss you (romantically)

>> No.8997653
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8997653

>>8997537
>Omega is the real lex luthor
>She/he/faggot has been writing all the scripts for each chubba to say to slowly develop the lore where he gets defeated as the final boss in a scripted "final yab"
>Because the yab is scripted its not actually a yab in real life but anons here will buy it so hard and shitpost so hard /vt/ becomes the top posted board for a month
>mainstream media gets a hold of the story. Post it on a slow news day or a day they have to cover for biden saying something fucking retarded
>Yagoo himeslf gets interviewed
>He reveals it was all an act
>All the chubbas in their respective streams talk about the things that were part of the script and were not part of the script
>Everybody has a good laugh
>Management lets mumei stream history
>She does Chinese history
>The REAL final yab occurs.

>> No.8997805

>>8997645
well then I'm going to Nipon

>> No.8997816

>>8997653
>Chinese history
Cao Cao did nothing wrong, Dong Zhup was based, Liu Bei was a weak crybaby.

>> No.8997895

Baking new bread

>> No.8997996

>>8997816
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is mythology not history, like the Trojan war it's so watered in myth and legend that the events it's based on are impossible to make out beyond the basics

>> No.8998050

>>8996409
Sorry, I missed your post - kind of busy, so I'll just give a short reply here because this thread is half offtopic anyway.
The fundamental disconnect between us is that you're talking about the genetic makeup of humans as a global, millenia-spanning process where different groups compete (which is what Marxists, Feminists etc also do, just with different groups), in which you seem to prefer a certain outcome.
I'm concerned about helping out my loved ones because my moral conscience compels me to. It's about doing aquiring the resources necessary for us to thrive while respecting my fellow man; considerations on a level that goes beyond our area or a few decades are largely irrelevant to that.

>> No.8998164

>>8997996
Wait so you mean Hector didn't get betrayed by Athena pretending to be his friend to give him enough strength to fight Achilles?

>> No.8998258

Either way, this problem can be circumvented. I hope Nanashi Mumei gets the game permissions she wants. Or, you know - play Assassin's Creed in the meantime since they have permissions for it. I wouldn't mind her talking about Victorian Era London instead.

>> No.8998302
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8998302

>>8998258
>Victorian Era London
She should play Sunless Sea instead

>> No.8998429

>>8998302
This honestly looks like more of a Gura game to me

>> No.8998439

>Mfw Mumei talked in her important announcement section about her keyboard instead of the ancient history streams
I am not even gonna say it.

>> No.8998457

>>8997996
The Romance was a novel and also political propaganda that catered to the legitimacy of the Ming dynasty.
The Records are fairly historical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_the_Three_Kingdoms

>> No.8998548
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8998548

>>8998302
>Sunless Sea
That's a terrible idea, Sunless Sea is made for playing and not spectating.
Does Mumei ship the Messenger with the Sun, or is she a Liberation of Night bitch?

>> No.8998561

>>8998439
have you watched the end of the stream

>> No.8998572

>>8998429
Eh, it tackles a bunch of historical stuff from all over the place, and is also extremely story-heavy. Mumei and Ina I feel would be the best for it.

>> No.8998583

>>8998457
And there was a major city at the edge of Anitolia, there was a war, and Alexander the Great's grandfather or great Grandfather did steal a consort from there that ended up being his mother. But if that was the bastard of Achilles and decendent from Heracles on the other side is most likely bullshit

>> No.8998611 [SPOILER] 
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8998611

>>8998548
They're all shit and there's only one true answer.

>> No.8998670

>>8998561
not really, when she signed her piece i went to bed, it was pretty late.

>> No.8998761

>>8991430
>They also canceled five nights at freddys within 24 hours and caused the creator to step down because they doxxed his donation history and found out he gave to trump.
What the fuck? Twitter based?

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8998767

>>8998611
>spoiler
>choosing the ded Clockwork Sun
>not choosing CANDLES

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>>8998767
Candles is as dead as his lore. The Sun is forever.

>> No.8998891

>>8998861
Jump in anytime

>> No.8998898

>>8998803
Truth be told, I haven't played Skies since the Hoarder update due to Early Access burnout. Has it gotten better and would it be streamable for Moomei?

>> No.8998996

>>8998898
I don't think it'll be good for Mumei, she'll be more focused understanding what she's looking at. Maybe once Mumei becomes confident enough streaming.

>> No.8999061

>>8998898
They fixed a shitton of bugs in the Sovereign Edition but they didn't really add any new content sans like one mascot. It may be a hit or a miss with Mumei, but I'd still like her to give it a shot nontheless.

>> No.8999125

>>8998996
>>8999061
Fair enough. The one good thing about Skies over Sea is that there's a lot more shit to look at and the combat is more complex than "tailgate the ship, backpedal the beast" so there should be plenty of viral moments.
The lore is kinda stale without Alexis, but it'll still be weird enough for normalfags and much more accessible without all the browser game baggage.

>> No.8999398

>>8998050
DESU, completely understandable.
I’m trying to figure out meta of human nature and that can be rather dehumanising.
I think I’m naturally inclined to the miss trees for the forest.

>> No.8999558

>>8999398
>>8998050
I’ve been trying to observe not the intention but the functional consequence of the totality of human action.
And it just looks like a Darwinian struggle for existence.
Those groups you described perceive the existence of conflicts, but I think they fail to analyse the recurrent consequence and cause for such conflicts.
I’m trying to be descriptive, but my own bias causes my own morality to leak in as proscriptions.

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