/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

china bad

She will never marry me, that's the problem.
Kanata is so fucking lucky....

>>8831692
Main answer - China
/vt/ answer - reddit, kson

>>8831692
so like taiwan so like ever since tienmen square massacre and um like FREE HONG KONG so like winnie the pooh so like bugman got angry at coco-

>>8831692
Chinese people believe that Tawain is not an independent entity from the Mainland due to heavy propaganda from Xi, to the point that Coco merely showing it on stream, not even mentioning it, was grounds for outrage.
Essentially the same thing if you told North Korea their army isn't the strongest military on Earth.

>>8831692
She had the audacity to say the word "Taiwan" - So China hates her
She had the audacity to encourage the use of reddit - So 4chan hates her
She is currently an e-thot who only cares about milking paypigs - So most people hate her

>>8831692
she died for our sins.

>>8831937
see this was my issue, I couldn't find her actually saying anything, so I thought I must be missing something. I didn't think she could have gotten in trouble for just showing it.

I don't have a problem with what she did as Coco. But her streams under the kson name are pretty boring

>>8832054
China is just that warped my dude.
They think burning tires for light is an a-ok thing to do.

>>8831692
someone got his ban lifted

>>8831692
Alienated chink feefees.

Another fucking Cici/K*** threads spam?
Janies wtf?

>>8831692
She led the rise of Hololive which has been terrible for the industry

>>8831692
I find her boring and uninspired, if it's anyone i hate it is her fanbase, but my opinion of them stays on this board.

On the plus side, she was a hard-working foreigner who completely changed the power dynamics and market share of a small Japanese company in her short time there. She was also vital in introducing vtubing to the western world.
More controversially, she's the dictionary photo for the definition of "pandering." She leaned hard into her reputation as a raunchy shock jock and loved making the more traditionally seiso talents do and say "naughty" things. Her actual substantive streams - playing Fallout 4, building in Minecraft, etc - were pretty fucking tame. But that's not why anyone remembers her; it's things like shaving her pussy and dry humping Marine that made her a titan among gods. She truly perfected the art of siphoning money out of horny Japanese whales without GFE.
The China yab is a massive red herring. No one outside that retarded country gives a shit about Taiwan or Coco's "bravery" in the face of a handful of Chinese antis. Coco's real legacy is being the wannabe-idol-manager-turned-idol that ultimately failed in her dream of being an idol tycoon.

>>8831692
it's just 4chan keyfabe, redditors here pretend they hate her for pushing cringy hololive reddit.

>>8831692
Who is this girl? I keep seeing her here but it looks like she doesn't stream anymore

She's great in collabs, but her solo content is shit

>>8832321
Based. I don't care if you want her flesh to fall off. But keep it, and all vtuber hate, in this echo chamber.
>>8831692
China, Taiwan, etc.. Also, being from USDA (United States of Dragon America), I'm guessing the Chinese felt like she was spreading propaganda by mentioning Taiwan. It's not necessarily wrongthink as their own celebrities do that constantly for the CCP, so they're probably wounded from that. It's just that the rest of the world knows celebrities aren't [outright] puppets for their state.

>>8831692
She was too successful and haters couldn't stand it.

Everyone that hates her is either chinese, or baiting to get vt riled up.

Having a weird sense of deja vu, probably means this is a bait thread.

>>8832692
nah I just genuinely had zero clue, my bait threads are was more obnoxious.

>>8832082
I think her current life coming off as boring is mostly due to that innate comparison between Coco, who had tons of other Holomems to interact with, versus the completely alone Kson.

>>8831692
Fans too weak to protect her and watched her made love to Zhang

>>8833159
Ive said this too and its weird more people havent realized it. She didnt become more boring hersef, she has less people to interact with. Interacting with members was one of her strong suits in my opinion.

>>8833304
>watched her made love to Zhang
You wish chinamen

>>8833546
Yea her solo stuff was okayish but her collabs were amazing.
Now she's stuck forever alone and people are realizing more and more that she's kinda shot herself in the foot for a huge payday.

>>8833546
>This
She's a cooking channel
It's only exciting to watch her stuff the turkey.

Asacoco was the only thing going for her, which was mostly shitposting but it had some shit that might offend fans of the other girls. She's complained about the discrepancy between her asacoco views and her regular streams, gaining antis in the process for being a numberfag. Her irreverent attitude gave her even more antis over time, since she went against what was the norm in a way that might fit what we now know as vshojo.
Later on the reddit shit made people who were neutral actively shitpost against her. What's left after that was mostly cross posters from plebbit.

>>8831692
She admitted to being a lesbian and that all of her male fans disgusted her and that she was only pretending to like them to use them for money.

>>8834555
That's super recent. People hated her before that.

>>8834503
Not sure if bait or a retard, most likely both.

She sucks because she left her holofriends
"For more creative freedom" aka being a camwhore and streaming the same fucking games as before

>>8834592
I respected her until she antagonized antis and self destructed into irrelevance. Then she whined about creative differences only to reveal that she meant pandering even harder with her irl tits. Then there were all those misandrist rants from a chuba whose target demo is men. Then there was her constantly shitting on amerifats while not making an effort to improve her own manners.

Basically her problem is that she grew arrogant, ungrateful and spiteful. Coco was a wannabe shock jock who got too big too fast and flew too close to the sun. Now kson is seen as a total hack who really didn't understand how good she had it. The grass is always greener, am I right?

Now she's just a minor eceleb who's not talented enough to truly become great, yet too big as a Hololive has-been to lower herself to collabing with other literal who indies. In other words, Coco effectively exiled herself to camwhore purgatory instead of finding a way to make things work. For all her complaints about shitty Americans, it turned out she was the shittiest American all along. Go figure.

>>8834942
>I respected her until she antagonized antis
You are retarded

>>8832576
This is what it actually is if you aren't Chinese. She's the most popular and successful vtuber in history, so 4chan has to hate her. Anons are incapable of thinking for themselves, they just see what everyone else is doing and do the opposite.

>>8835149
>This is what it actually is
sure anon. there are no other reasons it could be. not the reddit pandering, the shitty voice or people not enjoying her type of humour. it was only envy

>>8835435
>not the reddit pandering
Interacting with fans is not pandering, this could be said about almost every single vtuber
>the shitty voice
This is not a reason to hate someone
>people not enjoying her type of humour
Again not a reason to hate someone,I would also argue she is one of the funnier hololive members. On collabs she would regularly make other members laugh and she was more creative with her jokes. Try again

>>8835435
That's plenty of reason to not care about a vtuber. That's not a good enough reason to actively hate one. There's plenty of vtubers that don't appeal to me due to different factors, but I don't go out of my way to shit on them.

>>8831692
it took a while for the dust to settle from my eyes, but now I see understand how this bitch ruined hololive

>>8832310
fubuki and rushia led the rise of hololive, stop giving coco undue credit

>>8836204
Source you fucking faggot? I hadn't heard of either until Coco and korone last year.

>>8836048
She's been seen as the one poisoning the well for as long as the dragon has existed. Plenty enough reason to hate her. If she had joined niji instead nobody would give a fuck because her content and attitude aren't that uncommon there.

>>8836318
only ones poisoning the well are fags like you, who think their idea of "hololive" is the only truth.

>>8836401
Sure thing man. That's why she's the only girl who's graduated.

>>8836280
source is my ass
fubuki's scatman gave hololive its western fanbase
that stupid facebook meme about rushia gave hololive its SEAnigger fanbase
and they went to watch other members
only actual newfags would say coco was what introduced them to holo

>>8836318
Her “poison” helped hololive become as big as it is today. I know contrarian faggots like you seethe at her because of this

>>8836699
as I said, stop giving coco undue credit
almost none of the fanbase growth can be attributed to her

>>8836697
The only newfag here is (you)

>>8836738
stop denying reality, it's embarrassing

>>8836697
>that stupid facebook meme about rushia
What?

>>8836820
You surely have proof to back up your claims, right?

>>8831692
She was betrayed anon. All this hate that's been appearing recently is just countermeasures meant to prevent the parties responsible from looking bad and to misdirect the wrath. She showed some numbers on a screen with some flags on a global search engine because she was curious about where she was getting the numbers. One of those flags happened to belong to some far off foreign land named Taiwan, which somehow caused the sky to go red then shatter like glass. Then Chinese started floating down from the sky and eating everyone and everything. She did her best. You know the rest of the story. Do your reps if you want to know the details of the betrayal, for my heart's sake and for the sake of others it is best if I let the dead bury the dead. As for me I've started spending time with this purple dragon that's been trying to get my attention for a while. She's not the same as my orange one but she's pretty fun too in her own way, likes to banter and cracks up a lot. She isn't my dragon though, she belongs to some blonde with some weird giant frisbee as a weapon but thankfully she's pretty chill and doesn't mind me hanging out with them.

>>8836738
Lol coco was the first to be trending topic worldwide with her first karaoke stream (also in that stream she had 15 min of interrupted SC where the normal comments were not visible).

I just didnt like how she pushed the limits of some of her coworkers and embarrassed some of them. Not a fan of power abuse, whether it is from Coco or more notably Matsuri. She was overall a good streamer though.

>>8831692
Reddit amerislut coping with the fact that the wall is close

>>8837047
By the time gen4 was a thing fbk, migo and korone did most of the heavy lifting on the overseas market. Can't remember pekora's status at the time.

>>8836986
because i was there, started taking interest in hololive in the late 2019, it was fun, but nothing exepctional, in early 2020 rona hit, Coco and 4th gen debuted around new year, in 4-6 months hololive became a global phenomenon, of course every member have their own role in popularity explosion, but Coco was the one who tried to do something slightly diferent, asacoco, ark, unrestricted collabs, giving new ideas and boosting creativity of other holos, no wonder she rose to the top in literal months despite being new member, Im not even a huge fan of her, My oshi is Flare.
Undermining her accomplishment is not only insult to her, but also your Oshi.

>>8837254
Pekora always was the at forefront of vtubers overseas
Coco is a second tier chuuba at best regarding visibility

>>8833546
she's no different than shit ton of e-thot on twitch now.

Why do most Zhangs study in Canada?

>>8837415
She always has been, dont know why anyone thinks anything has changed.

This thread reeks of newfags.

>Creative freedom
Show boob & ass

Yes freedom

>>8831692
Schizos. The answer is always schizos.

>>8837595
Most threads do

>>8831692
they are jealous, cause their oshi's, despite being carried by the brand, are still less popular than dead chuba.

>>8831692
One country turned schizo enough that any criticism of her instantly makes you from that country.

>>8837415
>>8837720
>>8837541
I have nothing against gays, what they do with their ass is not my problem but it does bother me when they are mentioned all the time as if they were special and unique.
They are not special they just like dicks

Stopped liking her recently. It keeps surprising me how powerful the anime girl avatar is.

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>>8832134
I-It's not?

>>8831692

Outside of Chin a nobody hates her. What you have is typical 4chan reactions for the lulz and memes. The problem is if you pretend to be retarded for too long actually retards will show up thinking they are in good company and there is always a small number of people that dont get the jokes regurgitating them seriously . The problem is theres days its almost impossible to separate the people perpetuating an obvious gag and the 80 IQ dimwits that take it seriously