/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>8695512
Probably the other way around, Gen 1 bring a bunch of ungrateful whores as you'd expect.

her japanese just sucks ass. you cant make an excuse when kiara had a collab with even tamaki.

>>8695512
The fuck is she talking about? EN didn't DO anything, they rode a hype train that already existed from Hololive clips blowing up. Mori literally sat on her ass and collected thousands of dollars while performing her job at such a low level that she would've been fired if she was a Walmart greeter putting in the same effort.

>>8695512
Maybe Mori should stop the dumbass chicken from spinning narratives then?

>>8695717
>i love rrats

>>8695512
Mori...Korone, the #1 vtuber in Hololive at the time reached out to you personally as soon as your collab ban got lifted...

hope she sees this bro

>>8696368
thanks bro

>>8695512
I don't even need to watch the clip or the archive, but it's pretty obvious that she was talking about the general management of how Cover handles their new members.
You can even go back and check the general Holo threads and a bunch of anons were already insinuating about "things_Cover_should_do.txt" when that stream was live.

>>8695576
Wrong.

>>8697004
the gist of the clip is cover hired a bunch of people with minimal streaming experience for the first gen and just tossed them in front of hundreds of thousands of people and went "okay, perform." also they had no real help dealing with antis and their only real support network was each other.

>>8701168
>no real help dealing with antis
just dont browse vt lmao

>>8701168
>tossed them in front of hundreds of thousands of people and went "okay, perform."
Ofc this is how calli sees it since she didnt even know what she signed up for nor she care to do some basic research
>no real help dealing with antis and their only real support network was each other.
What cover supposed to do? Assasinate them? Her so called anti were basically non existent, the voice in her head was the one that made it louder than it actually was. This is all just her eloborate petty pondering to ironic paypig saviorfags

>>8701465
Why are holoposters like this

>>8701168
>they had no real help dealing with antis
>don't do or say something that'd make people mad
>get no antis
Gura and Ina both got antis but their lack of a foothold basically meant they had to resort to bullshit, which by itself has no lasting power.

>>8701465
Mori did get a lot of hate on twitter thus the whole off with your heads deal. But her taking it some type of way is kind of weird because I'm pretty sure a lot of people shit on her music before

>>8701601
You're a delusional retard if you think there's any rhyme or reason to the majority of the hate they get. Just look at this board. Gura has 3 million subs. If even a tiny fraction of them are hating on her on a daily basis that still thousands of people. Most of them pretty obviously not very socially inclined either and they've all talked about how much anxiety they had to get such a big audience at first to the point of physical illness.

>>8701601
>"don't do or say something that'd make people mad"
Bitch have you been on the internet lately if you say anything it could make someone mad.

>>8695512
Calli is the most piece of shit ungrateful lazy cunt whore that I have ever laid eyes on. I can't believe she's a real person and how delusional and out of touch she is.
Imagine complaining about the people that built up a company that let's you make thousands and thousands of dollars by playing videos games for a few hours a week. While you yet again ended up ruining a collab a few days ago because you didn't prepare anything.
How she has people that like her is beyond me, let alone give her money.

>>8695512
>It felt really shitty
>It was like we were thrown into a pit
>Nobody was there to help us and we had to figuring out everything on our own
>while we also made tens of thousands of dollar per day
Is this a first world problem?

>>8702101
Sounds like a teenager complaining about his first job desu, save for the below minimal working hours and absurd money they get.

>>8702050
>>8702101
>>8702231
NEET seethe

>>8695512
>apply for vtuber shit
>doesn't even know what is vtuber shit

Fucking called it, she's a nepotism hire, her fucking avatar confirms it.

There seems to be a lot of Cover employees here, they got the internal process all figured out just by watching some Chuubas.

>>8695857
There was a monthlong collab ban...
Not all problems have a guilty party you know.

>>8702101
that's the thing, if you know how much you're being given, and understand you're not giving them back what they deserve because you've got limited options, it'll weight on you (if not you're a total asshole) and if you don't get support from the people who everyone believes has an obligation to do so, even for the sake of their own business, it'll just add to the mortification, just ook at Pekora's breakdown, it was caused by the same sort of thinking inside the office

>>8702543
Except when corporations are involved, then we all know who the guilty parties are.

>>8695512
i don't want to give this video a view, can someone give me a summary

Extreme first world problem situation, next.

>>8702802
i only recently got into vtuber stuff, what happened with pekora?

>>8695512
Pretty sure they did acknowledge EN1 and thought that as a group they were way more talented than the JP girls and didn't need help. Also not sure what JP is supposed to do for EN branch besides offer discord encouragements in JP which nobody but Kiara would fully understand. And no Calli is not good at JP, she herself said she "isn't great" at it.

So, what i've realized from this video is ONCE AGAIN the problem is with the managers. Shouldn't managers be there to help them get through tough times and close the gap to first time vtubers in an area?

Jesus how are managers constantly so fucking terrible.

>>8695512
Imagine complaining about how hard your life was while relaxing in a pool at a beachside resort while committing only 5% of your effort to streaming and making money hand over fist every time you go live.

Literally the whore of Babylon.

>>8703015
Pekora wanted to do something to show her appreciation to her fans
Cover said they couldn't do it
She offered to pay for it herself
Cover still said no
She got the final no while she was streaming, got upset, and ended the stream
She did a members only stream later explaining it
Saying some things like other members have done similiar things, why can't she etc,,

>>8703137
yeah, along with the recent gura thing it seems like the only thing management is good at is making asses of themselves

>>8703299
iirc it was going to be some sort of game collab thing with all the nousagis. They forgave her immediately but she couldn't forgive herself for what management did.

>>8695512
she talks directly in the video how holoJP didn't even know they existed til they debuted and that she thinks they would have helped if they had, are you deaf?

>>8703588
>but she couldn't forgive herself for what management did.
Nice job ESL

What you're looking for here is, "She couldn't forgive what management did." The word Herself doesn't need to belong, as she doesn't need to forgive herself in this scenario if she is mad at management.

>>8703015
>>8703299
close but, the thing she wanted to do and was rejected, apparently another member asked for it and was able to do it without any opposition, she couldn't hold it in when she started reading superchats as usual (probably out of guilt) and broke down, ever since that stream she hasn't done SC reading live anymore except for a few ones and birthdays, but the "aripeko" machine gun has been lost to the whole incident

Time to take the Jesus off the pedestal and blame Coco.

Fuck her.

>could barely communicate with the JP brand, despite being "fluent"
>w-why aren't they reaching out

>>8703708
wasn't Coco in most of their chats during the debuts and a few weeks afterwards to the point there were rrats that she was their manager?

>>8703644
She was mad at management but also herself for being unable to deliver on a project she to look forward to. Not her fault but she still felt responsible for failing to deliver. Emotions aren't
logical.

>>8695512
100% management's fault by keeping them segregated for almost a full fucking year

>>8703946
But they didn't? everything just went to shit after EN ID JP among us fiasco.

>>8703995
>Lofi still mad

>>8703995
do i dare ask what happened there?

>>8704073
Some were better at the game than others, some were targeted for kill way more than others, some were always voted almost immediately, just typical wolf game shit along tribal/genmate lines that probably made it not fun for at least 3 ppl. Probably why they haven't played it much since.

>>8704073
much like every bit of drama in hololive
everyone played together and had lots of fun :)

>>8704218
i remember seeing compilations of gura getting bullied, yeah

>>8695512
Based Mori-senpai

>>8704073
I'm going to spoonfeed you just because 1 more anon who wont fall for rrats is good, So basically its EN 2nd Among us collab, but this one is impromptu so no designated translator is present, everyone is having fun but gura (and mori) were having shit luck and spend most of the game as ghost. Twittard blame iofi for not translating and even mommy fubuki had to cheer up iofi. This along with the who got the 1M subs first fiasco and chinks falseflagging as ID fags or EN fags to make them fight pretty much isolate EN from future interaction.

>>8704379
How much of China even makes up Hololives shit anyways?
Why can't they just recognize taiwan and btfo all the chinks?

>>8704379
ouch
at least iofi is still on good terms with ina i think
plus there was that gartic phone collab they did recently that worked out alright i think

Pekora explaining the situation herself (no, it's not the OtakMori version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRNvYL1DurY

>>8703995
Chumbabies raged after Gura got killed a couple times and harassed Iofi because she 'was supposed to translate' or something.

Did she cut out another couple percentage points out of her life to coach the new girls or does that come out of the original 5?

>>8695645
Damn, guess I gotta go write that EP with fully-produced music if I want to apply for that Walmart job I wanted...

>>8704379
This might be the most authentic tsundere thing I've seen on this chan

>>8701168
You're right, they never should have hired Mori or Kiara. It's one of the worst moves Cover ever made

>>8702252
Mori had more jobs during her first month of streaming than these three have had combined in their lives

>>8704725
yeah they probably should have taken the hint that kiara would be bad judging from the fact that she had been trying for a long time to become an idol and never made it
like maybe there's a reason why she was never successful

>>8704725
>worst moves cover ever made
Nah they hired Gura and she is single handedly the worst person to watch by herself.
The only time she's actually funny is when she's collabing with Ame.

Ina isn't bad but shes so fucking boring that she makes me want to watch EN2, even though they are even fucking worse.

>>8703293
Anon...the assets on screen aren't real...I'm pretty sure she was sitting in an empty bathtub on a laptop for this stream

>>8695512
Because gaijin kowai, HoloJP are as beta as a girl can be.

>>8704725
To be fair, I don't blame cover for Kiara. She made perfect sense, they clearly wanted a charismatic translator.
>>8704790
There's Suisei in this front and she isn't bad by any means.

>>8704667
What's that have to do with streaming?

>>8705042
They handed her such a good idea with Holotalk and it's just been a downward spiral because she lacks any semblance of charisma. Such a horrible investment

>>8705470
tbf actual successful talk shows have a team of good writers and the host has good comedic timing for them to play off of, and can plan 2 rrats in advance to steer the conversation a certain way. They also rehearse with the guest behind the scenes before going live. Kiara has literally none of that. so imo it's good for what it is but she def needs to figure out how to make it better. Early on the intro and stage setup was a nice touch, but no real improvements since then.

>>8704829
ina gets comfy points at least

>>8704551
i'd say it was probably more than a couple times if it warranted actual compilations rather than just a singular 'gura gets bullied'

>>8695512
fucking clickbait title, kys clipnigger

>>8702445
At least she was honest since the start of her debut about being forced to be a idol

also what's the deal with collab bans?

>>8715779
It's too strengthen the bonds between the genmates and show the relationships between the 5 to their viewers.

Don't ask why IRyS had one.

>>8695512
Gen 1 hardly suffered lol