/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Days it took for Holomyth to reach 300k subs

Gura 4 days
Mori 11 days
Ame 13 days
Ina 18 days
Kiara 29 days

Let's see how your Gura killer will do

The two missing debuts

home sweet home

SC of the day
Non Apex:
Kenmochi: Bday
Quontama: 1 yr anni
Aqua: Utawaku
Not!Flare: 1 yr anni
Haachama: Video contest

>>8452971
both was fucked by youtube, But Owl's viewers was much more stable, when Rat's viewers drop segnifecently (much more than any other member) to the point of ~72-5K

>>8453125
Chieri?

>>8453151
Rat drop was more people in late time zones satisfied with having seen a little of each debutant and going to sleep.

>>8453125
Aww...Chii-chan. She’s got some really supportive viewers. Nice to see her at 9th especially how she was feeling during the entire tournament.

>>8453125
i heard 2nd guy had some emotional moment on the tourny,. i would happy to know how apex tournaments result correlate with SC list

>>8453182
Seems like a thank you stream for her two MVs and live.

>>8453192
true+Jps went to work
BUT she had some a lot of lags during debu, wich didnt helped. kinda sad since her debu was the most original

>>8453125
Now post the non-edited list

>>8453233
Emotions were all over the place during the apex tournament. Lot of the powerhouses in Apex were choking during the matches and some didn’t do as well as expected. Hoshikawa went ape mode tho. It was terrifyingly beautiful.

>>8453233
Yes he cried a little bit since their team choked at the end. As you can see, Chii-chan and Kaida cried and they got more SC than HSKW who won (with Virtual Gorulla and Inui dono)
Qpi also cried and she got 1k USD but isn't on the chart due to the other performers.
>>8453330
She can be on the charts once she is fully using her model for the day.

>>8453125

If 9pm PST/12am EST is Kronii's timeslot going forward, her numbers will be capped at around 10k, like Irys's best numbers. Basically impossible for east coast folks to watch her.
Feels good to be PST tho and the transition from Gura to Kronii will be smooth.

Also seems like Baelz is going to stream during JP times.

>>8453125
>Not!Flare
what does this mean?

>>8453634
Also called Flare, but not Holo Flare

>>8453453
damn sometimes i really want to be apex tard.
i see Uto here here too (22)
something special?

>>8453704
Apex. Same tourney as everyone else.

>>8453330
>>8453453
>She only counts as Vtuber when I say so.

So why you didn't include Yuna?

>>8453704
Apparently she had a menhera breakdown during the middle of the tournament and stopped talking

>>8453732
>She only counts as [a] Vtuber
When she is using her fucking Vtuber model fully or else we're going back to that chart that has Sutopuri in it and you faggots will never shut up about them getting 40k doing nothing but Discord ERP

>>8453704
She was in Chii’s team during the tournament. Long story short, they didn’t so well but in the end had fun. I’m sad that Kazaki didn’t get a much of a boost since she was working pretty hard to liven the mood.
Both of them, plus a few of the couches, were there cheering Chii up when she was crying.

Also, 12 hr stream but her vod god deleted.

>>8453672
i see, scared me for a second there.

>>8453570
Let's just assume that all EN 2 members will get a stable numbers of 4-10k in the mid tier Holo range from now on. They can't be someone like,

>Gura who moved to the top 5 in all of Hololive in less than a year, her skills in entertaining and banter during her talks in unmatched
>Ina is second in Myth due to how consistent her schedule is
>Ame could get consistent 10k ccv if she weren't debuffing herself all the time

As was discussed or mentioned by me before, I liked that they're going for a more offhand approach in their debut week playing kusoges, watchalongs, or underrated games. It means they're trying to build an image/personality before playing FOTM games or Minecraft/Apex/Henry. Do well in this and they might get Ina's numbers during their normal streams. Gura/Marine/Pekora/Miko is unreachable at the moment.

>>8453570
ty for her schedule, she did show it during debu.
list of game is kinda curious but i d Not see any significant buff here.

i kinda disappointed that none of girls pull interesting of something real. Nature's spore playthouts seems the most interesting choice to me

>>8453570
isnt that good? no more dead hours

>>8453759
another good reasone to stop watching her

>>8453799
not him, but this is kinda unfair to put her here since she got her place by showing ass irl (not a joke)

Why do you keep using デブ?

>>8454026
The guy who usually does sc or live view posts puts her there when she's not doing shit like flashing her taint, I do the same with sc sometimes. She just doesn't belong today.

>>8454026
she made most of that money during her zatsudan tho

>>8454182
It is not dismissive for KSon not to include her in a vtubers list when she’s doing a partial face cam stream. It keeps things simpler.
I surely hope she debuts her new model soon so this cease to be a thing

>>8453866
smart anon point out in previous thread that Cover did a pretty good job by scouting ppl with new (fo holo EN) talents, thats why if they will BRING new 4-10k viewers each, This will be really good for Holo
>I liked that they're going for a more offhand approach in their debut
strongly disagry
the reason why debu, first week and first moth are so importent is you want to hype newcomer up so they will stay for a wile know you better and THEN you do whatever for fucking want because you already astablished your audience and your strengths.

you can look at first week of HoloEN 1 Gura, Ina are the good examples, But Ame will be the best:
ame played valorant and Apex because ppl she was the only "good" FPS player in EN (this is still uniq for holoen) and ppl even after a year pretty hyped when she place Apex despite being rusty

>>8453866
> all EN 2 members will get a stable numbers of 4-10k in the mid tier Holo range from now on.
The sad reality is that I don't think the EN audience is ready to support massive overlap yet, like JP. I think most of the girls can pull 10k if left completely alone, but it'll be rough if they overlap with Gura or another HoloMyth. Sana's numbers might look bad even with the debut buff for her first week due to overlap.

>It means they're trying to build an image/personality
I might be not giving the new girls enough credit tho. If "dead on arrival, super ugly and boring" Irys is able to carve out a solid 5-9k audience for herself, they should be fine.

>>8454510
>Irys
>boring
little subjectivity
after a month or sow a can say she defenetly has some strong personality wich doesnt overlape but makes good chemestry with EN/ID girls pretty easyly
plus before we've got a discussion that irys doesn't have a lot of views but she doesnt steal them from EN girls which is really good

>>8454698
Ya the quotations were mocking the antis. Irys is cute and doing fine.

So instead of admitting a mistake he's just gonna ignore me, ok. So much for numbers thread.

>>8454419
>Cover did a pretty good job by scouting ppl with new (fo holo EN) talents
You sure?
Nigger - the only bright thing in her is being an artist - HoloEN already has an artist.
Flora - the only bright thing in her is being an ASMR artist. Yes, there are no HoloEN members who specialize on ASMR, but it's not unique. For example, Mori does ASMR too. And having ASMR as an only good thing about of you is kinda yikes.
Helicopter - her voice is her main asset, but it's not unique for HoloEN. Mori has pretty similar voice.
Owl - pretty much scuffed and more boring version of Gura, nothing unique here.
Mouse - high energy like Kiara, good singing, no unique talents. Maybe she'll be godlike at fps, we'll have to see.

>>8454840
What mistake?

>>8455098
>>8453488
>>8453757

>>8455135
Ok, who is Yuna? Add her if you want it fixed. And the reasons for not adding Kson are stated in the thread. But if you really want her there, add her yourself. You know, instead of sitting and crying

>>8454868
Artists like Ina and Sana is in demand. Ina can't provide drawing sessions every week. ASMR artist is a bit experimental. Mori fits the bill but she isn't specialized in doing that thing. Rat and Helicopter hasn't shown most of their cards yet, but they had been entertaining so far. EN needs a leader first and foremost. I don't know about Owl yet. Overall, Cover chose them among the thousands of applications in the year, they just hadn't shown any of their talents yet. Gura flew off after her ride on time song, muse dash and outlast clips.

>>8455168
Dunno, Quontama's kohai? Looks like she's from the same company or something? And you're the one who's making these lists so it's up to you to fix it and and not do any mistakes.

>>8454868
>the only bright thing in her is being an artist - HoloEN already has an artist.
Stacking more talent is a good thing. You don't stop hiring singers because Gura is a good singer. Someone as good at art as Sana is basically a shoe-in in terms of talent as long as they're not awful at streaming. So far Sana seems to be one of the most talkative HoloENs and Astronomy streams are something new.

>ASMR artist.
So far, the 3 biggest EN vtubing companies (HoloEN, NijiEN, and Vshoujo) have not hired an ASMR specialist yet. This is just Cover locking down a niche before other companies get their own versions, like how Calli is the first (and still only) rapper/musician vtuber, Ina is the artist vtuber...etc.

>her voice is her main asset, but it's not unique for HoloEN. Mori has pretty similar voice.
Her speaking voice is already enough to get her simps on her debut streams. Even if Kronii sucks at everything, she's already a net positive.

>pretty much scuffed and more boring version of Gura
I don't see anything similar between Mumei and Gura yet. Mumei wants to do history streams so we'll see how that goes. Her debut was the weakest tho.

>no unique talents.
It's possible that Baelz doesn't have a unique gimmick to flex, but she's shown that she is extroverted enough to carry many of Holomyth's more introverted members in collabs. You can't go wrong with EN Ollie.

>>8455296
do not bother anon
>Owl
her roomate was popular and everyone was hype even during niji en debu thinking she will be on of them (petra most likely)

Yo what happen to vshojo? They used to sneak in the ranking a couple of times. Are they dead?

>>8455755
Big event day, vshojo has got nothing going on while holoen and the apex tournament is going on

Kronii first to 200k I think. The power of having a voice that is pure SEX.

>>8455296
>>8455415
>Artists like Ina and Sana
>Stacking more talent is a good thing.
Please read the post I was replying to. They were stating about uniqueness of talents, and now you write about "the more the better" and "stacking talents". WTH?
Other thing you both wrote - just reinterpretation of my words.
>Mumei wants to do history streams
>Astronomy streams
Topic of the argument was talents, not the things they plan to do. Or you really believe that they are professional historian and professional astronomer?

>>8455423
That made me laugh a lot, specially about that anon ferrying rrats from the indies and aspiring threads of this board
>Nobody wants to go to Holo, they all want to go to Niji, see Petra, guaranteed to be Sash!, a huge talent, not like the 2 views nobody like the ones Cover will recruit
>She went to Holo? WTF, I hate Sash! now, booooooriiiiiinnngggg!

>>8455835
>Sana 151k
damn

>>8455835
Looks like Mori-tier is HoloEN2's top tier. It's been foolish to think that they'll have someone with Gura's growth rate.

>>8455755
You couldn’t get to the top 20 with less than 15k yesterday, let alone in the top 10.

>>8455755
We're using piyo now and it doesn't support twitch yet

>>8453570
I have to say, at least for spics like me, the new girls timeslots are really friendly. So far it was dead hours until night, now I finally have something to watch

>>8455884
>That made me laugh
yeah last 2 threads was full of
>"she is so boring"
if she is boring,why was nijibros so hyped aboutt her in a first place?
btw she didnt mentioned it on debu, but we might get new apex freak, +her singing is really good

>>8455835
Sana feels like she will be another Flare or less obnoxious Kiara. Low subs but loyal and consistent viewer base.

>>8455905
mori's growth rate was pretty wild too, you to her music activities in first half of a year

>>8455905
Let's be real here. Gura was a phenomenon that is not likely to ever happen again. It was the perfect storm. Even the other EN1 members aren't even close to Gura.

Looking at the EN2 sub growth so far is very interesting however. Kronii's stock shot up hard, as a lot of us predicted, but it seems that the general hololive fanbase liked Mumei a lot more than a lot of people here did. Her growth has accelerated too. Also surprising is Baelz falling to 4th in total subs which I'm sure nobody expected since she shot out of the gate as the clear leader.

>>8455998
who's the apex freak?

>>8456078
Mumei is most likely her old fanbase converting

>>8456078
Baelz is going for the network/leadership route like Fubuki. Low numbers, but it's needed. Fuck everyone saying she's a gura killer, if she can wrangle Gura on her own, that's already a win for me.

>>8456007
>another Flare or less obnoxious Kiara
none of them. there is no reason to expect her to get super supportive gachi and she has no Kiara's personality traits including numberfagging (she even said "dont watch my monday streams if you dont like this type of games")

>>8455844
I'm not sure what your point even is.
>They were stating about uniqueness of talents
Are you talking about
- how proficient they are at their best talents,
- how unique the talent is,
- or how unique the "talent"/holomember they are?

They're 3 completely different questions.
If you're talking about proficiency of talent, Hololive basically only has singers, ASMR specialists, and Ina as an artist that are good enough. Sana and Fauna will be adding more to these ranks.

If you're talking about uniqueness of talent, then it's really just Calli as a rapper and Ina as an artist. Good vtuber singers/ASMR specialists are a dime a dozen. Being good at a game isn't even a unique talent with so many good gamer vtubers.

Some of Hololive's most popular streamers like Pekora, Subaru, and Miko don't have any unique talents or professional-level talents apart from being good entertainers.

If you're talking about uniqueness as a streamer, it's literally been one stream so we don't know enough to determine if they're unique yet.

>>8455388
Looked her up and she made 2.3k, not sure why she wasn't added. I didn't make the image. She is tagged as Vtuber as well so it's not like Playboard should skip her.

>>8456078
Baelz's subs got slashed post debut unlike the others, she should pick up again over the next few days assuming Susan doesn't get uppity again.

>>8456105
owl if rrat was right

>>8456078
Baelz being basically Ollie but in EN drained all the hype people could have, I mean if there is already one talent like this, and she can speak english, why do you hire the same type of talent instead of something different? This is the bootleg gen for sure

>>8456174
what was her indi numbers?

>>8456218
She isn't anything like Ollie though. At least watch streams next time. Unless you consider not being a shy introvert as "copying Ollie".

>>8456186
dont bother

>>8456238
Over 1 million subscribers

>>8456262
>She isn't anything like Ollie
what are you talking about anon. Every energetic and loud streamer are "just like Ollie".

Even Selen is "just like Ollie".

>>8456262
A lot of people are just calling Baelz EN Ollie since she exudes over-the-top energy and the closest thing EN has to Ollie. Ollie was like high on crack and peaking her mic on her debut too until she calmed down for her normal stream.
In the group collab after her debut, Baelz already seemed like she chilled out a bit so we might get to know her better in the coming weeks.

>>8456294
ty but i meant live numbers

>>8456186
>Are you talking about
No, just read the thread carefully. The topic was 'unique among HoloEN'.
>- or how unique the "talent"/holomember they are?
Most likely this, if I correctly understand your weird way of expression your thoughts.
>Good vtuber singers/ASMR specialists are a dime a dozen. Being good at a game isn't even a unique talent with so many good gamer vtubers.
Completely disagree with that. There are a fuck-ton of vtubers with amazing singing abilities. And ASMR is a thing that can be done at a very high level literally by everyone, if they have right equipment. On the other side, exceptional gamers, like Selen for example, are pretty rare. You can take HoloPro - they don't have anyone even close to Selen in apex.
>Some of Hololive's most popular streamers...
You are going off-topic right here.

>>8456413
>Baelz EN Ollie since she exudes "over-the-top energy"

make me wonder mb
>d ppl even watch at least 1 Ollie's stream?
>mb everyone maybe everyone was tired and rat was too much to handle at this point?

>Kroni had the "Worst debut"
>Most subs.
lol.

>>8453811
>vod god deleted.
why?

>>8456617
How come a God of Vods has been deleted?

>>8456576
From now on you can only judge and rank the quality of vtubers by their sub counts. Anything else and you're a filthy hypocrite.

so with this nijiEN liver will see their old indie number right anon?

>>8456617
VODs over 12 hours don't get archived

>>8456484
>they don't have anyone even close to Selen in apex.
Nobody really does, right? There is Selen, there is VGori then a HUGE gap then the rest of the VTubers.

My opinion on this whole thing is that Hololive never ever again got someone that was a specialist in one thing in detriment of others after Choco got absolutely crushed by one tiny change from Youtube
>no sexy anime girls doing ASMR

Hololive scouting lately seems to me more based more on
>hours availability
>accepting the post adpocalypse post Capcom post chinkout boundaries
>being able to entertain an audience

All this talk of "X was hired because art / music / game", in my opinion, is a post hoc rationalization.

>>8456719
pffff
>losing to kidneys head to head
>can't hold their liquor
>leeches the heart for nutrients
Liver graduation when?

>>8456749
You forget
>a current holo is vouching for them

>>8456732
I thought they just got cut off after 12 hours

>>8456923
Nope, if it's more than 12 hours the entire thing gets nuked the moment the stream ends.

>>8456856
Interestingly that's how recruiting works in my field of work as well
>hey McAnon, a new position is opening for X, do you know someone that can fill it among the people you know?
>if so tell him to send his CV to X and we'll arrange an interview
It's a field that there are not a lot of people capable of doing the specific thing required by most companies and everybody doing it knows each other from either academia or online communities

>>8456923
You need to end it manually before 12 hours but if you just let it run over the VOD might not archive.

>>8456484
>exceptional gamers, like Selen for example, are pretty rare.
LOL no, there are quite a few vtubers better than Selen at Apex in JP. They're just indie/NijiJP, like Bora, Kamito, Hal, Gorilla, Reid...etc. Selen today is no longer the pred level she was at her peak. Hololive is not interested in hiring based of gameplay ability because its not one of the talents they look for.

>The topic was 'unique among HoloEN'.
I'm confused then, because that means you think the HoloCouncil members are not unique compared to HoloMyth and that's completely wrong. Sana and Ina are both artists, but they are literally nothing alike as streamers. Apart from the most surface level observation, there's almost nothing alike between your examples of Mori and Kronii, Mumei and Gura, and Baelz and Kiara.

>>8456749
>Nobody really does, right? There is Selen, there is VGori then a HUGE gap then the rest of the VTubers.
Never said that, that's your misinterpretation. The only think I said was about Selen and Holopro.
>Hololive never ever again got someone that was a specialist in one thing in detriment of others after...
What Hololive are you talking about. The one I know hires people like Ina, Mori, IRyS, Sana and many other single-talented people. All HoloEN have either 1 talent or 0 talent.
>Hololive scouting lately seems to me more based more on
The only true reason:
>previous identity numbers

>>8456749
>All this talk of "X was hired because art / music / game", in my opinion, is a post hoc rationalization.
You genuinely think that Cover hired Mori not for her music proficiency and Ina not for her art resume?

>accepting the post adpocalypse post Capcom post chinkout boundaries
Nobody is going to say no to joining Hololive because of game permissions lol

>>8457044
>>Hololive scouting lately seems to me more based more on
>The only true reason:
>>previous identity numbers
so why dont we know Rat's roomate?

>>8457044
>The only think I said was about Selen and Holopro.
You said, and I quote "You can take HoloPro - they don't have anyone even close to Selen in apex."
What I said is that NOBODY in the industry can have anyone even close to Selen because Selen (along with VGori) is the one VTuber that is also a top 500 APEX player.

I am agreeing with you in the general sense tho: Cover does not hire people based on talent above all else, they hire people they think can do the job with what they have and so far, at least with Gen 5, EN1 and ID2 they seem to have more hits than misses

>>8457124
>joining Hololive because of game permissions
"fuck hololive and there potential audience i want do play [game_name]"

>>8457004
>LOL no, there are quite a few vtubers better than Selen at Apex in JP
Half, or maybe even all people you listed are below Selen's level. Looks like you are not very familiar with Apex. But that's not the topic "numbers" thread. The thing is - they are much more rare than vtuber singers.
>Hololive is not interested in hiring based of gameplay ability...
Not a topic of conversation
>I'm confused then, because that means you think the HoloCouncil members are not unique compared to HoloMyth and that's completely wrong.
Jesus, just go and fucking read the whole thread. No one spoken about personalities, but rather about talents.

>>8457172
>gen 5 = 5 misses
>EN = 3 misses
>ID2 = 2 misses
IDK seems pretty bad to me

>>8457131
>so why dont we know Rat's roomate?
The same reason as with Ame - 4/5 high numbered are good enough. The one remaining can be picked using rng method.

>>8457225
>gen 5 = 5 misses
If you think not having a 3rd gen tier member is a miss, I don't know what to say to you

A miss would be Aki or Mel level

>>8457124
>You genuinely think that Cover hired Mori not for her music proficiency and Ina not for her art resume?
Yes. I think they got hired because of that AND because they fit the profile Cover looks for.
Take musical talent: I don't think Cover would ever hire based on a "blind audition", same for art and hire based on the artist portfolio.

>Nobody is going to say no to joining Hololive because of game permissions lol
You would be surprised. It's not just the permissions, there is a whole segment of professional entertainers that can't possibly accept working in a place they can't "rock the boat", exercise their "creative freedom" without limits or even to keep a basic schedule.

These would be filtered out very quickly regardless of talent

>>8457225
now you are just being delusional

oh i see what kind of a dick (you) are

>>8457225
Misses is not a synonym for "vtubers I don't like"

>>8457172
>You said, and I quote "You can take HoloPro - they don't have anyone even close to Selen in apex."
Oh, looks like I didn't understood you first time, sorry.

>>8457225
>gen 5 = 5 misses
OK, that shuts down any possible conversation between you and I. Any person that cannot even acknowledge Botan is not talking from their mouth but from their salty heart.

>>8457255
so.. why dont we know time's roomate?
ps she is not **ru

>>8457225
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>>8457044
>>8457255
>Hololive scouting lately seems to me more based more on
>The only true reason:
>previous identity numbers
LOL

>>8457335
>Botan
You mean the fake APEX Master that never played a game of APEX since because she was afraid of being exposed as a fraud, that Botan? Pussying out even though she didn't need to exhibit any Pred-tier skill like Selen, that Botan?

>>8457225
>Gen 5 = 1 miss (Polka)
>EN 1 = 1 miss (Kiara)
>ID 2 = 1 miss (Anya)

Kiara is still doing good, but honestly, I'd rather have Ollie or Reine get the EN buff. They should've replaced Aloe with Kiara if previous rrats were true.

>>8457381
Sorry anon, that conversation is over.

>>8457044
>The only true reason:
>>previous identity numbers
Time's previous persona has like 3k subs

>>8457346
>ps she is not **ru
I am not taking that from a rando anon.

>>8457314
even "OrangeWoman"(miss) has really big SC numbers

>>8455835
What a boring generation. Ironically the one who will be taking the most risks, in terms of experimental content, has the lowest number of subs. The rest are just random vtubers you can find anywhere. Hololive as a brand seems to generate hype without nothing to show for it, pretty sad.

>>8457225
>>8457381
The nijinigger is running scared my fellow holochads

>hit
vtubers I like
>miss
vtubers I don't like

>>8457482
The streams speak for themselves, Botan doesn't have the balls to play APEX because she doesn't want to get exposed as a fraud while Selen owns her skill and shows it off because it's the real deal. That's why one is a miss and the other a hit.

>>8457381
Botan was an actual pro in FPS games that people actually take seriously. Apex is a joke of a game, lol.

(you) are really bored and desperate aren't you

>>8457482
>>8457428

>>8457553
The fear, the desperation, the nijinigger is cornered and he knows it

>>8457512
coul work but not in fucking Numbers threaD

>>8457586
To me it seems like he's completely penetrating all holoretards in this thread.

>>8457565
was it PUBS or only CoD ?

>>8457623
Nah, its just funny to see him brag about Apex skill. Why do you think so many vtubers play fucking Apex Legends of all games? Its because they can pretend they are good at something since actual FPS bros, like Botan, wouldn't give that game the time of day. They are too busy mastering the FPS games that actually matter on the pro circuit.

>>8457438
Looks like they didn't have other options with higher numbers, especially because HoloEN2 audition came right after NijiEN audition.

>>8457586
dont give the retard more you's, he's clearly desperate

Holy fuck, for a moment I thought there could be a relatively decent discussion here (albeit off topic) about corporation / Hololive recruitment without too much tribalism. Turned out it was just tribalism shitposting all along

>he
(you)

>>8457623
The nijibronie pretends to be two people to give his words added weight, not realizing his samefagging is obvious to everyone else

Most concurrent viewers on their debuts
Kronii - 94,966
Fauna - 94,206
Mumei - 93,128
Baelz - 92,998
Irys - 91,280
Sana - 85,105

Average viewers
Kronii - 88,656
Fauna - 87,807
Mumei - 87,293
Irys - 86,168
Baelz - 83,461
Sana - 78,816

Baelz killed the hype

>https://youtu.be/G4Dos5VXJkI
1k for a zatsudan. Beni is inclining.

>>8457705
>Baelz killed the hype
falseflagger or didnt watch the streams

>>8457692
That's like saying "we couldn't find any tuna in the ocean so we settled for guppies"
If they actually only had big numbers as their only condition they absolutely could get bigger numbers

>>8457381
where selen red bull sponsorship anon?

>>8457696
it was obvious from the 1st post anon. classic shitter comes into numer thread because (you) are desperate for attention and people here doesnt saying "fuck off" instantly. nothing new

>>8457735
Beni anon I appreciate you but you gotta give us context on her numbers, how well is this, what is she up to that caused an incline?

>>8457202
>Half, or maybe even all people you listed are below Selen's level. Looks like you are not very familiar with Apex.
LOL Rusty Selen is better than a bunch of JP preds and ex-pros. Ogey.

>Jesus, just go and fucking read the whole thread. No one spoken about personalities, but rather about talents.
You're nitpicking on that anon saying they got people with new talents, and saying they're not unique. The only example of a unique talent you've given is being good at Apex, which is hilariously limited, and then writing off an ASMR specialist as if any monkey with a KU100 can produce the same level of content. If you want to continue to be autistic about it, then sure maybe they didn't get the widest variety of talents possible. They just strengthened what they were already good at by stacking more talent.

>>8457837
didnt Botan and Aqua lose it?

>>8457949
No

>>8457381
You seriously still think Selen is pred-tier today?kek
She's still good for vtuber standards, but not close to pred.

>>8457892
100k celebration, and yesterday her team got 16th place in the apex tourney (which means they all won a pc).
As much as I dislike it, Apex is causing her incline.

>>8457949
Do we need to have that conversation about desires and reality again?

>>8457949
https://twitter.com/RedBullGamingJP/status/1429639537656008705

no

>>8457998
go back to Apex/niji thread
off topic fag

>>8458006
this was genuine question, i didn't see it on some of Aqua's streams

>>8458039
Speaking to the wrong anon, my dude. Just calling someone out on their already off-topic BS.

But here's some numbers. Mumei crossed 200k subs too.

>>8457684
>actual FPS
To me, it looks too subjective
>games that actually matter on the pro circuit.
Let's see, what fps games are biggest among pros:
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - Botan never played
Fortnite - Botan never played
PUBG - Botan played couple of times, proved that she's not competent
Overwatch - Botan never played
R6S, CoD - Botan's main games, where she shows most abilities. However she accomplished much less in those games than Selen in Apex.
Apex - looks like Botan lied about her rank. The only stream of her playing it (not on her channel) proved her completely not competent in it.

Back to numbers
>piyon current ongoing streams top 12
What’s Hal even doing? Also
>thanks based nip bro for making piyon

>>8458147
And where's the number anon? Does selen vod exceeded 1M views on the Apex stream does Botan R6 or whatever fps she play does? Cmon bring number

>>8457937
>LOL Rusty Selen is better than a bunch of JP preds and ex-pros. Ogey.
Ogey.
>The only example of a unique talent you've given is being good at Apex
I just repplied on anon's statement about rarity of high profile fps players.
>any monkey with a KU100 can produce the same level
Yes. Who thinks otherwise is a retard.

>>8458191
When will you fucking learn how to greentext you infuriate me.

>>8458218
>where's the number
He won't bring any, he's not talking about numbers but about his preference for some streamers and dislike for others, and then providing a rationalization for that to make it look like objective

>>8458131
>Gura killer is the 4th least subscribed
Kek

>>8458191
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1429702028171698177
seems like there is mk mini tournament

>>8458300
Here anon, have some punctuation signs
>.,?!:
>.,?!:
>.,?!:
Don't squander them all in the same sentence tho, use sparingly

>>8457744
He watches the numbers and numbers don't lie like your eyes or ears.

btw was Oliver EOP friendly streamer, or he is only answering EOP's question sometimes (like Coco)?

>>8458147
This is a numbers thread so gtfo if you're not going to provide numbers.

>However she accomplished much less in those games than Selen in Apex.
Botan was an ex-pro whereas Selen hit pred twice in earlier seasons of Apex.

>looks like Botan lied about her rank. The only stream of her playing it (not on her channel) proved her completely not competent in it.
Brilliant investigative research.

>>8458285
>any monkey with a KU100 can produce the same level
>Yes. Who thinks otherwise is a retard.
Wow I knew it was a waste of time talking to you, but you're actually a fucking retard.

Apex-fags can (you) fuck off?
tourny is over (yyou) are not welcome here

>>8458218
>>8458303
Number of times Selen been a champion: a fuck ton.
Number of times a 'Master' Botan been a champion: 0

>>8458330
owl is 2nd

>>8458425
>Who thinks otherwise is a retard
>Wow I knew it was a waste of time talking to you
>but you're actually a fucking retard.
Looks like it's not me who's retard here.

>>8458350
oops, forgot to add image

>>8458512
>who's retard
Learn english first before posting, ESL-chama. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>8458496
Sorry i had brain seizure
Meant 2nd least subbed
The ratt

>>8458514
hm this girl has some potential this week with bunch of collabs and buffstreams, numberfag in me is happy

>>8458555
Retards don't deserve a proper grammar addressed towards them.

>>8458610
>The rat
yeah this is kinda anomaly, but shadowban and lags was too much for her to handle.
owl girl was pretty strong btw on average + she was shadowbanned too

>>8458639
If we disregard overlap, her numbers should be:
Minecraft: 9k
RFA: 8-9k
Mario kart: 5k
It takes two: ???
Singing stream: 12k

Not bad at all, but the new ENs might take some attention and viewers from her.

>>8458639
seems like Marine is going to participate too

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1429671228420214787

>>8458379
>numbers don't lie
Make me remember "figures don't lie, but liars figure"

Nothing much on both sides for the evening. Kuzuha is playing Alchemy stars (Maybe sponsored), 7 people (Kagami/Mito/Yashiro/Debi/Kaede/etc) are hosting a midsummer karaoke night (?) and also Maimoto baseball

>>8458681
>Who thinks otherwise is a retard
>don't deserve a proper grammar
Damn, you really don't know English eh? I feel bad for you now. If I knew you were ESL, I would've used simpler vocabulary.
My bad, retard.

>>8458755
She... She transferred to ID branch???!

>>8458731
>Mario kart: 5k
her average is 4-5k with collab aspecially with Reine (2 mommys) should peak higher. i ll say 6k+

>>8458805
yeah, kinda strange, maybe as a guest?

>>8458805
Towa is organizing a MK tournament on the same day I think.

>>8458826
O I meant her POV in the EN/ID tournament. The collab with Reine should be higher.

>>8458805
most likely EN (another technical difficulties)

>>8458848
Someone not having switch on ID side or maybe ame still on her break? Either way with marine participating will bring some numbers

>>8458755
>>8458805
>>8458848
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1429018916206960645
It's the JP Mario Kart competition

Anons, look at Rushias holostats graph, it's trippy

>>8458915
Oh, didn't see that, thanks

>>8458921
Isn't just people tabbing out after her game ends and coming back in after her game starts?

>>8458848
Uhhhh, going by the performance ENs and IDs have shown on stream so far, this doesn't bode well for their chances. If Marine plays as well as she did last Holo MK tournament, she'll stomp all ENs and IDs easily

>>8458921
People tune in during her races and check out when the race ends since there's a few minutes of delay in between races. Kinda like Apex.

This phenomenon is one of the more common "proofs" of the tab-out theory, but who knows, maybe people are actually quitting and rejoining.

>>8458883
>Towa is organizing a MK tournament
im not the only one who though Mortal Kombat

>>8458921
It's normal for APEX and Mario kart when there is "the game" and "the wait" in spaced intervals.
Mario Kart even more because races have more or less the same length and, unless the lobby doesn't fill fast enough, the wait as well.

>>8458972
Nvm, I didn't see that Towa is hosting another MK tournament in the same day, just 2hrs earlier too

>>8458797
>Learn english first before posting
Lmao, what a moron! Looks like someone just completely fucked up.

>>8458992
I wish lmao, but that game is probably viewership poison and too gory for Hololive.

>>8458972
i genuinely sad

>>8458915
>No Aqua, no Suisei, not even FBK
Doesn't seem like there will be any (not serious) drama this time

Ratgirl first stream up in 30
>PREDICTIONS?
I say under 25k given the slot, wouldn’t be surprised with under 15k

Rushia benefitting from being the Baelz waiting room. 23k for Mario Kart not too shabby. She usually pulls 10-15k

>>8459079
It's going to be team-based so there won't be too much salt.

>>8459079
>でゆるホロカート

Honestly after watching the debuts yesterday I kind of have to ask, are they just supposed to fill out the EN branch or are they supposed to attract new viewers? The only "new" skill set they bring would arguably be asmr to the EN branch. How much pull does that have?
Some of them having 200k subscribers at this point is great and all, but it is in all likelihood that the majority of the current subs are Hololive subscribers who are subscribing to everything. If the goal with the global branches is to expand the viewer audience of Hololive I have to wonder if this generation didn't completely miss the mark.

>>8459011
It doesn't work when my sentence is grammatically correct, ESL-chama. You're just exposing how much of an ESL you are for not even knowing that.

>>8459081
Average 9k, 14k top. Maybe I will have to eat my words, but this isn't really a good timeslot for EN except EU

>>8459081
after her debut really hard to tell but 25k eems reasonable

>>8459121
Based on their current schedule they're filling some slot blanks

>>8459081
>not even a game
yeah, 15k I bet

>>8459121
dont start this shit again. read thread from the start for this "discussion"

>>8459121
> I have to wonder if this generation didn't completely miss the mark.
He asks literally not even 24 hours since the first debut.

But to genuinely answer your question, skills don't matter as much as you think they do. People watch streamers they like. Amelia arguably has no traditional performer's skillset, but has one of the most loyal fanbases and consistent numbers (8-10k). If you're talking about expanding the audience, it's already increasing every day when the girls continue to gain subs.

>>8459122
Is that so? Please read some capitalization rules, so you won't look that stupid in the future. Looks like we have a delusional ESL retard right here.
>you are for not even knowing that.
Also this, my little ESL retard.

>>8459174
there's no stream for her to compete with, aside of Rushia
https://schedule.hololive.tv/

>>8459323
kanata and nene are also streaming

>>8458147
>However she accomplished much less in those games than Selen in Apex
Selen reached top 500 in lame ass online play. Impressive, but ultimately meaningless. Botan competed at a professional level against the best in the world. That is magnitudes more impressive than an online rank.

>>8459355
ok im blind moron

>>8459297
>You're just exposing how much of an ESL you are for not even knowing that.
>Grabbing a section and pretending it's a full sentence
You're a fucking joke man, but I'm actually going to stop here before other anons shit on me for being off-topic. You and your shitposts have already derailed this thread far enough.

>>8459121
I think that you don't really need new, or unique skills to pull new people in. Not VTuber related, but after all, AKB was able to keep expanding in Japan for decade while having very very few "unique" talents. Sometimes, your ability to attract new fans is just a matter of having more suitable personalities, or choices of activities, or simply keeping the current hype going.
Thus, EN2? They are probably supposed to do both - fill out the EN branch and attract as many new viewers as possible. Unique skillsets don't really matter as much to normal people, really.

>>8459379
>Botan competed at a professional level against the best in the world.
Source please. The only thing I see right now is Botan having just a decent skill, enough to beat some noobs and Hololive members. She doesn't look even close to a pro player.

>>8459389
for a future reference, anon. discussion with desperate for attention morons ends when you stop answering.

>>8459496
Ya it's my bad, I couldn't resist bullying a ESL retard for luls.

>>8458772
Sponsored stream. 10k 3 minutes in. Might beat Pekora shilling bleach at 28k.

>>8459484
Botan was on a Rainbow 6 pro team and helped manage an e-sports team before joining Hololive. Hence her skill at FPS and tard wrangling.

>>8459389
>Grabbing a section and pretending it's a full sentence
That section shows your complete incompetence in English. And, judging by your defensive behavior, you are truly just a pathetic ESL retard.
>I'm actually going to stop here before other anons shit on me for being off-topic
Shitting your pants? I see. Have a nice day then!

>>8459401
>They are probably supposed to do both - fill out the EN branch and attract as many new viewers as possible.
Exactly this.

>Unique skillsets don't really matter as much to normal people, really.
Just going to use Nijis since they have a more diverse lineup, but Kuzuha, who has a pretty generic skillset, has expanded Niji's audience singlehandedly more than many of the uniquely talented Nijis that average 1-2k viewers.

>>8459648
>Pekora shilling bleach at 28k.
oh shit i missed it

>>8459648
He's pulling gacha I believe, which he used to peak at around 20k. He has been on a hot streak lately tho.

>>8459651
I didn't ask to describe Botan, I said:
>Source please.
We are in 4chan currently, so don't be afraid to share a link on her roommate as a proof. Otherwise you're just pulling it out of your ass and she's just an average-skilled player, completely overshadowed by Selen.

>>8459484
>>8459651
Alright seriously why even discuss this here? there's fps thread already also where's the number?

>>8457553
Botan consistently gets 5 times the viewers Selen does. I don't think she gives a shit. Botan is pulling down a 6 figure salary pretending to be an anime girl and playing minecraft, shes enjoying herself.

>>8459648
Not the highest shilled stream

>>8459688
>Shitting your pants?
Naw, I'm just bored with you already. It's just too sad.

>>8459769
>post roommate shit or you're wrong
So you're either baiting or a massive retard, ogey

>>8459793
Jesus man, you just let him run away without answering for his lies. What a party-pooper!

>>8459941
Ok, so she wasn't a competitive pro player, understood.

so rat is average...

why do holofags feel the need to defend their talents in front of every shitter?
and why are you choosing numbers threadd for this, tribalfag?

>>8460009
It's the middle of the night for burgers so this stream was never going to be ridiculous numbers wise.

>hiding boobs
why rrat?

>>8460082
If we are talking about current stream, then it's just starting - too early to talk about numbers.

damn watching new HoloEN member feels weird

with this timeslot seems like she wants that niche of nips that watch en chuubas despite not understanding en

Rat will peak 20k at least

i think being first holoENgen2 member with actual stream helps her alot

the rrat was the one that speaks korean?

>>8460422
Kronii

>>8460422
no. Rat speaks EN and JP. Time speaks KR + at least 1 more member, cant recall who it was

RatGirl 100% going for the JOP public

>>8460589
how is her schedule?

>>8460589
Also her numbers for this stream will stabilize 18.5k, a bit under 19k

>>8460589
>>8460627
good time for JP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9cO2S4VoAIws1a?format=jpg&name=small

>>8460422
>>8460493
The rrat said she was trying to learn Korean as well.

>>8460627
Her streams are all over the place, I guess she's experimenting. No two are at the same time, half are JP primetime while half are more watchable in the US.

>>8460627
She seems to be exploring some slots this week with the one in the 26 being smack in the JP primetime, titled in JP too

>>8460742
I wonder if she lives in japan too

>>8460636
>Also her numbers for this stream will stabilize 18.5k, a bit under 19k
there is literally no one streaming, i dont think ppl leave her for Flare or Okayu

>>8460877
pekora playing mk in 40 min...

>>8460844
>lives in japan too
her time almost perfectly match this rrat look at JST>>8460838

>>8460877
In 39 min, PekoMario

>>8460844
>>8460950
Her accent is a little Aussie, I would say Australia time (same as SEA time btw)

>>8460935
damn.. she can drop even lower

If she can retain 15k with pekora playing mk then I will kneel

>>8453570
fuck I love her

>>8461002
listen carefully, when she would speak JP this s sounds pretty smooth and cute

>>8461030
Especially because of JP audience.

>>8461094
What? No, she definitely won't lose 4k+ viewers. I'd say 2k max.

>>8460951
What will choco do to my gf??!!

Looks like Kuzuha shilling doesnt go well

>>8461216
full body examination

this was all Mion lost to a EN debut. JP and EN audience dont seem to overlap much, at least for wolf momma

>>8461216
are you her Chad BF or cuck "bf"?

>>8461285
not a surprise.
what about Fubuki?

>>8461231
You need to lighten up, other than the "HYPOCRITES!" anon (and a couple of other suspiciously similar ones that may be the same), most people here, most of the time, are merely bantering with numbers as a background with "king" this, "emperor" that, "queen" this, "kneel" that.

There is no reason to get emotionally attached or feel personally attacked

>>8460589
Well Rat is certainly trying to appeal to JP, that’s for sure.

>>8461002
She mentioned Australia directly during this current stream so I would say Aussie is a safe bet.

>>8461408
>There is no reason to get emotionally attached or feel personally attacked
?
i m chill, anon. just raw numbers. no tribalfaging here, if any otherxstreamer will play "sponsord game" i will call it shilling as well.

>>8461387
Fubuki ended for the time baelz started the debut. But she was teasing baelz heavily on her part, with the rat's image on her plate and constantly looking at it hungrily (only 2k though, it was the 23rd she was playing the same kusogame)

>>8460589
Smart. If she streams during Australian hours she'll be getting JP viewers too. Hopefully it filters out some of the more cancerous casual normalfags who usually watch EN1

>>8461544
she is not pandering like Kiara, so most ppl should be chill about it. +this is smart move considering she is going to stream during JP time

>>8461619
Oh,. I interpreted it as "shilling Kuzuha in this thread" and not "Kuzuha shilling games".
He's the #4 on the current piyon with a shill stream, that's amazing

>>8461231
17k is very good for a shilling stream

Nijisanji 3d karaoke collab has started. Might get some nice numbers.

Is australian time the same as ID? I only know that if JP is streaming at primetime 9pm JST, it's 7PM there. So which is the best time to stream in Aussie/SEA hours, 11pm JST?

ok rrat's got enough character to keep her own fanbase. Lets see if mumei can perform better on her own as well

>>8461751
>>8461769
you are guys a bit late, there was discussion: "is he going to beat Pegora/ peak 20? etc"
yes he peaked 17k, but his current viewers number is 13-14k and being like this for a while

Well well well would you look at this. Now that Kuzuha isn't being boosted by some shitty tournament or celebrity he is back to being on the low end of the Hololive high tier. Well below the upper high tiers and top tiers. Proof that he only gets big numbers during events that draw large amounts of tourists. His actual fanbase is pretty small after all.

>>8462011
Good so can you let him rest? He has a frail constitution and being used for shitposts can damage his weak vampire bones

Rat peaked 20K!

>>8461936
Australia is huge. Eastern time zone is the same tho.

>>8461936
Have you ever actually looked at a map my buger friend?

seems like nips like chaos design

>>8462093
most austrilian cities are on the east though. So a bit earlier than Jp.

>>8462093
btw, China doesn’t give a fuck for where the sun is in the sky and everybody shares a time zone kek

>>8461941
>rat's got enough character to keep her own fanbase
this is subjective, but i genuinely surprised.

>>8462009
It's clear that he barely touches the game between shilling streams (or at all) so not much to be exited about.

>>8461856
Channel debuff

>>8462093
>>8462137
I said east? I clearly looked at the map upside down, it’s actually west

>>8462011
Yeah, that's the result of tourist pandering. Event this, event that, then what? What if there's no big event left to boost him?

>>8462128
>rushia
>Ayame
>shion
>gura
cunny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Numbers update

>>8462108
I live in a place where it's an hour earlier than JP, but holy fuck did I learn that australia is 2 hours later than my time. I forgot they are a little bit right than indonesia.

>>8458772
What game is this?

>>8462182
>he barely touches the game between shilling streams
is this different for holos?

>>8462242
>ayame
>cunny

>>8462242
sorry what was that?

>>8462295
gacha game called alchemy stars

>>8462296
is the same for every chuuba

>>8462255
HOLOGODS! CRUSHING! NIJIMIDGETS!

>>8462255
today is holo-day

>>8462011
Anon, this is his 3rd time shilling this game he obviously has no interest in. He got 20K the first time, getting 17K for doing pretty much the same thing again for an hour is good.

>>8453151
Rats stream was shitting itself for me, I went ahead and went to sleep 30 minutes in after staying up all day watching the rest, and will watch the VOD for her.

>>8462255
>rrat with 3 streams in the top 10
I kneel rrat

>>8462356
If it's some no name chink gatcha then it doesn't get much number.

>>8462387
this. I didnt give up though, but had to refresh about 10 times through 1hr

>>8462296
I don't think so. I don't remember pekora playing that shitty Bleach game again. Mori is the only one I can think of since she still plays shadowverse

Rat actually inclined from the top of the hour to now.
Smart decision, starting the stream at :30 instead of :00, picks some of the outflow of the finishing streams

>>8462217
HAL too. He took a nose dive in viewers. Wonder if the KNEEL fag is going to show up today, lol.

>>8462255
fuwa should make it a weekle show.
Also kuzu couldnt break the 20k yet, shit game tough so no surprise.
>>8462204
it baffles me how that affect so much.


Also 20k for first stream for red rrrat on a terrible time slot.

>>8462455
Nene played it again on the official chanel from that company along with Botan but that was also paid for
think Botan often plays the game she shilled again like world of warships and COD

>>8462510
streaming before jp prime time is also good.
Not a busy slot and still plenty of viewers. Kanata is prove of tat too.

>>8462535
>Kuzu couldn't break 20k
He rarely does when he isn't leeching off of some tourist event or a celebrity

>>8462510
A lot of gooks are lurking in the chat and appearing after the rat speaks some korean which reminds me, doesn't korea more or less have the same timeslot as Japan?

>>8462359
we have some exceptions like Botan, but she has appropriate background.

>>8462525
Doing some stretches already, maybe that’s only the first of two Kuzuha streams of the day

>>8462455
yeah..Mori even played Bleach later

Rat is hard worker.

Is Kaede's channel a debuff? I thought the niji 3d karaoke would be bigger

>>8462624
She has a good number of Nips, Gooks, Burgers, SEAniggers, and Aussies in her stream.

WORLDWIDE RRAT

>>8462624
Nijikr…

damn with such a design, she may be the one!

Nice incline for Reid

>>8462750
>Rat has a good number of Nips, Gooks, Burgers, SEAniggers, and Aussies in her stream
She’s a good entertainer, so she will likely retain a decent audience.

Two of the girls are already at the final tutorial boss, two just beat the secret level boss
>and one is struggling to beat the ensemble enemies from the tutorial multiplayer area

In terms of design quality, I had Lamy at top, but now with the rat, it's goddamn HD. And the rigging is top notch, all angle looks great

>>8462255
Can I request another update?

>>8463289
Other than that one rigger, I have no idea why the fuck they decided to forego bangs for some designs (Ina, Korone, Risu(?)) and try for a exposed forehead design for some.

The bangs are GREAT to hide the obvious limitations of rigging, like the separation between the face and the back of the head, and so is hair falling from the side of the face.

>>8463366
Here it goes

>>8462748
Why are all the ladies sitting with their legs spread?

>>8463497
So you could ask about it here (since it's VERY suitable topic for numbers thread)

>>8463289
>Its HD
Now that you mention it you are damn correct. The damn model just pops in resolution. I feel like I haven't seen a Live2D like this before?

>>8463497
To gain numbers of course

>>8463366
>Can I request another update?
Sure, here you go.

>>8463704
>HAL knocked out of top 10
>Kuzuha about to be knocked out of top 10
Hey KNEEL fag! How ya holdin' up buddy?

>>8463468
Holy shit, I thought Reid was just some 100 viewers midget. That's insane.

>>8461094
Kneel

>>8463811
It's a new costume and 3 year anniversary. Big stream for him.

>>8463273
Are Holostars like the trash mobs in the newbie yard of an MMO?

>>8463864
They're slimes

>>8463864
Pretty much, with YAGOO being a secret boss, Roberu being the final boss of the trash mob and Choco Sub being the boss at the gate of the real world

>>8462155
Timezones are too complicated for their small bug brains, please andastd...

>>8463861
+ one champ and second place in yesterday's tournament.

>>8464028
>22k likes

>>8464028
And that was for 5 minutes only...

>>8462626
you are talk about the man soloing 40k on Green hell, a fucking boring survival game.
I know Vnuma is dead but it wasn't too hard to check the past.
Kuzuha's viewer count destroys all the 'celebrity' you claimed he is leeching on.
Go get some reality check

>>8463864
Ankimo is ludex Gundyr

>>8464028
Nrrjdjwhdkdhdjdjwkejahwjhbwsbsjs
Bloody Susan and your ridiculous 'spma viewer's changes.
It's like being blatantly lied to bit you can't do a damn thing about it, FUCK.

>>8464215
Take a chill pill

>>8464028
Youtube confirmed garbage, but we already knew this.

>>8464028sage
that rrat smug live just makes the whole picture better lol

>>8464279
>that rrat smug
Yeah, Baelz is going to be a star. Her model is actual god tier and is one of the best Live2Ds I've ever seen. I'd only put Miko's 3D ahead of her as far as Hololive models go. Also, as we saw from this stream, when she isn't a pile of nerves she is super engaged with chat and really entertaining. I see good things in her future.

>>8464215
>>8464259
You guys are retarded. It's known that if you have multiple stream open, you only count as once viewer on one of the streams

>Gacha stream
>Not even 20k
Oh no no no Kuzushit what went wrong?
Where is the celebs buff?
Seems like everything is back to normal after the shit-gaming in that APEX tournament

Pecor beating niji 3D yet?

>>8464445
>It's known
It isn’t. Clues like the one in this stream is exactlywhy these theories are prevalent, because nobody knows for sure

>>8464113
Not him but
>King Kuzuha
>Hal
>Maimoto the 30k
All rode big event buff to get high numbers. Kuzuha only has like 10-15k fans that will watch literally anything(very impressive for a Niji and a male vtuber btw) while Hal's viewers are Apextourists and Maimoto's are baseball and collab tourists. To be honest, they're nothing compared to top Holos, they'll 100% get destroyed by prople like Marine and Pekora on normal, no buff streams.

rrat's only downside is being kiwi/australian so her schedule is made of all morning Us streams, so never too high ccv for her. Euros might love it though, and guess she can get a lot of late vod views like gura does as well

>>8453757
I'm the anon who makes the charts and she isn't under playboard's vtuber category, for the top 12 I manually pick out the vtubers from the overall chart to avoid issues like this but the runner up list was just a bonus since it was a strong day and there were some interesting names that barely missed the chart, nothing personal against Yuna but she was the only one missing so I just screenshotted the vtuber category instead of spending more time editing out the non-chuubas for someone who didn't make the day's top 12

>>8453866
>Gura
>unreachable
Rumao, easy game of spot the chumkek
Gura has been reclining and has been consistently been mogged by Ina and Irys. Face the facts, she's a 2view now

>>8464028
>>8464093
>22k likes
>22k votes
If the youtube tab out bug is real then does that mean Gura's karaoke which has 50k likes lost 8k views minimum?

>>8464521
>stream on my channel
>friend stream on his channel
>we both have 0 viewer
>open both stream

It was that hard huh

>Haachama going for a second serving of bait and switch
PREDICTIONS?

>>8464462
His teammates really carried him hard...

>>8464113
soloing 40k on Green hell
Do you mean these two streams?
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1174282221806477312
>5326人
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1174226733509349376
>4073人
40k right...

>>8464582
Have you tried that? Make a webm and it count as evidence if you have at least 5 people and show five disappearing from a stream and appearing in the other without closing the stream.

>>8464583
Gonna be boring

All EN 2 hit 200k except Sana stuck at 159k....That's not even being the Kiara of EN 2, that's being the Anya.....

>>8464635
True. Hopefully a one off for the “debut” hype tag along

>>8464583
>interacting with all en2 on twitter
>now riding their hype
fuck schizochama is a smart one

>>8464583
Is she really? HAHAHAHA, she cracks me up.

>>8464462
Hahahahahaha
What are these shit numbers for a gacha stream "King Kuzuha"?

>>8464700
> "King Kuzuha"
King God Emperor Kuzuha

>>8464524
I'm hoping the last one to be the minecraft collab.

>>8464583
Seems like haachama is trying to capitalize on the EN debut.

>>8464700
What are top5 non gacha-centered (as in where pulling didn't take over half of the stream) mobile game shilling streams from Holo btw?

>>8464743
Wait wait wait wait wait, there is only one emperor
>and it's cute Hal, King of Indies, emperor of all vTubers

Can't post image so you'll have to imagine this
>shota_hal.jpg

>>8464676
>now riding their hype
She’s smart

>>8464751
REALLY?! NO!

But for real, she's smart with her choice of themes and she'll 100% make a parody of Council lore videos.

>>8464462
Based Matsuri shot him down and made him lose 20k views in minutes lol

>>8464524
>Euros might love it though
Anything between about 9AM-5PM her time is going to be unwatchable for Europe, and her primetime is around euro noon so wagies can't watch her then either. It would be easier for the ones in NA to catch euro primetime by streaming around lunchtime, which is what Ina keeps doing.

Current instant piyon, that Reid fellow is a serious candidate for “winner of the day” award

>>8464829
I think it’s nice, but it may appear somewhat desperate as well. She needs to come up with more unique ideas.

>>8464770
eat your heart out

>>8464770
>>8459829

>>8464961
She's pretty much the only JP not playing solo games in the past few months, there is a limit to what she can do different that doesn't involve
>Henry Stickmin playthrough #25.

>>8464950
>winner of the day
spare us the cringe and just post numbers senpai

>>8465058
Numbers were in the pic, the "award" was a thrown off comment

Pekora moving up list

>>8464700
Comfirm Tokyo ghoul has a lot of tournament fans don't watch his normal stream
His real fans are only like 15k~20k

>>8465004
Have you even watched it? That stream barely has Princess Connect part in it. I was talking about a shilling stream with actual gameplay that's not limited to just pulling.

Youtube keeps having a lot of these moments where every one spins and people get chucked or or leave.
Just happened to Pekora and the Niji 3D.

>>8464650
Nah, it's being the Flare. Being Anya is much worse

>>8465162
>only
The middle of that range, if his median, would put him in the top 5 of the combined ranking of all companies / indies trailing only Pekora and Marine at their best, and around and maybe leading Gura and Miko at their current.

If you remove the "normal" streams for any of those too then he would easily be contesting Pekora as #1 and leading the rest

>>8464987
It’s a fucking bleach game anon

>>8464987
this was a 3-way split collab by the way. Makes the number even more impressive
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/7ygy8tF7xIc
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/sm7FdVAGBsU