/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>8208658
>people here really believed she would defeat Gura

This is getting into Anya territory for views

Send her your superchats, guys. I promise you will be appreciated by her a lot more than Calli or Gura would if you sent them their 300th superchat of their stream.

>>8208658
>great design
what went wrong

holofag here

tell me why i should watch her

>>8208721
Nijifag here
I have no idea how she passed auditions.

>>8208717
She's incredibly boring. Anya is 100 times more entertaining than her.

>>8208721
>>8208748
True unitychads unify by shitting on the bottom of the barrel chuubas.

>>8208690
>taking people here serious
lmao n b8 m8

>>8208748
she bored commission to death and they begged her to leave but she demanded that it would happen only after they let her join niji

>>8208748
>I have no idea how she passed auditions.
easy
>CN
>JP
but it didnt work

>>8208658
Selen has 900 viewers right now. How do we save nijien wave 2?

>>8208658
We don't. Boring, shit chuubas deserve low views and little support. It's how the industry works. No saving. Your design is simply not enough.

>>8208887

Nobody's staying the full 6 hours for a stream. I don't care how schizo they are

>>8208795
i mean she was #1 NijiEN 1.5 chuba in term of subs. so cunny design buff is real

>>8208887
>holoen2 hasn't even debuted yet
>niji is already pumping out 3
i fear for them

>>8208863
Honestly, i think insisting speaking each language if you are multilingual is an debuff. Ollie might be an exception since she does it quickly and doesn't slow down the flow too much.

>>8208887
She's reading superchats. Most holos drop down to the low 1000s when reading superchats.

>>8208921
Leos streamed 20 hours with 10k+ viewers.

>>8208658
Gura killer #500 failed?! Quick, deploy Gura Killer #501 Red Rat edition, it will definitely work this time despite Gura being extremely successful even outside of Hololive

>>8208748
My rrat is she showed them her bilibili channel's "engagement score" and they mistook it for live viewers because nobody knows how bilibili works.

>>8208928
I think penguin and Anya have conclusively shown it stops being real once they open their mouth.

>>8208959
Well he is built different, out of the stubs of the cigs he chain smoked.

>>8208887
restricte her from playing 1.Old 2.RTS games.
i like SC but this doesnt work in term of numbers fo EN audience.
let her grow, at first

>>8208658
>>8208887
They don't need any saving, 500+ viewers is really good if you compare to the vtuber landscape, and they'll be able to make a living like this. And I say that as someone that watch exclusively Holos except for Sasaki

>>8208993
>extremely successful even outside of Hololive

>>8208753
anya is actually cool if she could set her mic setup first and stop speaking nippon,

>>8209013
Uhh sorry anon didn't you get the memo that the only vtubers in the entire world are in Hololive and Nijisanji and everything should be judged by Hololive's numbers?

>>8208993
Yeah because Gura totally worked from scratch and wasn't boosted by her previous life.

You guys are a strange bunch. We might as well ask the same for plenty of Niji members who are doing just fine. Belmond was streaming to 700 people at the same time as her.

There was also a big Niji collab occurring at this time with 42K+ viewers that likely took away her JOP audience, and it's Part 2 of a game not many people really care about.

Playboard describes her average live viewers as 'Very High' (1100) compared to other streamers within her subscriber bracket (475). No one is ever going to replicate the numbers of Hololive but that doesn't mean they're doing poorly.

If she cares so much about it herself she'll probably just spam the fuck out of Minecraft.

>Fuck
>Oh shit
I like my cute voiced foul mouthed penguin.

>>8208996
>Anya
i bet Anya would be bigger then Petra if she was her VA instead

>>8208930
>me
(holofag on) what the fuck (holofag off) >2434

>>8208658
Just at a glance, if you want a passerby's opinion who does like Obsydia a fair bit but never cared about Petra? I look and think ".. uh what game is that?" and also, "endurance" in the title implies that there may have been like 10 hours of this game streamed that I should have caught up on to see this, and there's no fucking way I'm gonna be assed to do that if I don't even know what game it is.

In other words, unfortunately she'll need to just live in Minecraft to have a stable viewer population. IIRC some other things are she streams on a janky laptop and her mic sucks and is noisy. She'll need to work fast on getting a better setup going whenever she gets her first paycheck.

>>8209055
>Wasting time making a proper post in a shitpost thread.
No thread that's not a general is worth posting in on this board anonchama

>>8208993
>Gura outside of Hololive
how many live viewers did she have?

>>8209020
1 mil+ subs as Senzawa is extremely good for a random loli voice meme channel, especially after kicking off nation wide memes like Ok Boomer

>>8209053
The point is her previous life was all her own chops. Haters gonna hate, she got where she is through her own skills and personality

>>8208658
Holoen2 haven't debuting yet and its already affecting their viewership rumao, now imagine the slaughters next month

>>8208887
lol holo girls also got sub 1k in SC reading too you know ,Paolo?

>>8209162
How will the Nijigirls cope?

>>8208658
She's calling for help saviorfags~

>>8209138
You DO know she didn't cross 1 mil as Sen until after Gura debuted, right? Having shit numbers on Twitch and your only claim to fame being meme vids is far from what I'd call successful.

>>8209181
"boy I sure do love Nijisanji® so much guys, and pretending we exist in a vacuum and that 90% of my audience aren't obvious HoloEN transplants, did I mention how great Nijisanji® English® is and how much I love being in Nijisanji®?"

>>8209052
I think it's a retarded notion and I like to push back against it

>>8209137
600-1000 with no schedule and streams weeks to months apart. Those numbers put her at the top 1% of western vtubers.at the time.

>>8209102
You can hear her laptop fan go into overdrive and her framerate slowly dropping over time because the laptop is heating up when she's playing minecraft.
That's not doing her any favors either.

>>8209193
What a whore

>>8209055
>>8209013
Exactly this but what to expect from viewers that only watch hololive and think only above 1k are good numbers.

>>8209055
>Playboard describes her average live viewers as 'Very High' (1100)
most of this data after month from debu. irrelevant. fresh numbers could be much more accurate right now.
>Niji collab occurring at this time with 42K+
im not Nijifa(jp) fan but from my understanding, Niji is NOT as interconnected as Holo, especially EN branch

>>8208753
Sorry bros, this is the truth. I’m all for Unity, so I still support her on principle. But I just can’t get into her streams.

>>8208748
i dont watch niji at all but has she essentially turned into a sort of black sheep in the niji family.?

>>8209319
1k isn't good enough even though people like Sora often get around 1k~2k. I think most people are doing well once they can consistently hold onto quad digits.

>>8209053
You could subtract every Senzawa sub from Gura and she would still be comfortably ahead of the rest.

Imagine the surprise of those people when they see that ID, KR and even some JP vtubers have much less than Anya and Petra. Both of them are fine.

>>8208921
Hardly anyone stays long watching streams in general, so the key is having enough of a viewerbase that they can rotate in and out.
And that within that viewer base you find whales.

>>8209335
She still has jp fans. Regardless, doesn't make sense because a niji collab happened yesterday and she still got 1.5k in minecraft. It's game debuff. Depending on the game she surpass 1k easily.

>>8209360
it's probably someone from nijicord saying that with fear of putting his opinion out there so yeah

>>8208690
Her design is god tier and model makes most of a vtuber success, most sub count/popularity is decided at model reveal even before knowing anything about the vtuber and rarely ever change after. There are exceptions if someone is really, really boring, like this penguine.
I think people exceptations were fair, they couldn't know it would be this bad.

>>8208753
fuck you, I love both Anya and Petra
I just can't watch Petra when she streams at 5 am and stick to vods
she just has bad streaming hours

>>8209433
True. Petra's design and rigging is the best in NijiEN but her VA is the worst.

>>8208690
Whatever the motives of those "gura killer!!!" fags were I hope they get fucked. If they thought the best way to shill Nijisanji was to threaten Gura of all people I hope it backfired and they now know better, than to pretend someone has it in the bag before even knowing what they've got. If they're falseflagging Holofans expecting it was likely they were just making Nijifans look deluded they're also not doing any better being tribal shitters.

>>8209506
It's always shitposters particularly those from SEA. They're spamming the HoloEN 2 rat as the new Gura Killer but most people already know they're full of shit.

>>8209403
>she still got 1.5k in minecraft
Mincraft IS buff game
>It's game debuff.
>she surpass 1k easily.
incorrect, anon. ouside of Mincraft she either slightly above 1k(ring fit) or below 1k(even during latest collabs s collabs)
check by youself
psi'm talking about average numbers
https://piyo.chats.ninja/streamer/7Yud92d1

>>8209433
She's pretty young. Nobody in their late 20's cares whether their parents lets them see lewds. I always find the younger ones pretty boring. They just don't have the life experiences to keep the conversation interesting.

>>8208748
>Elira - great pick
>Pomu - great pick
>Finana - took a flyer on a vtweeter with moderate success
>Selen - great pick
>Rosemi - great pick
>Petra - what the hell, maybe they wanted someone to put in the jp branch
NijiEN does better when they scoop up the top indies rather than take chances. I still prefer their model over Cover's model of picking random 2views.

>>8209697
>random 2views.
who are you talking about in term of ENbranch?

>>8209427
Do they have some kind of authoritarian dictatorship in their discord where opinions are silenced and all discussion happens in a very narrow band of the spectrum of possible topics? Nijisanji is all about hating other livers and only caring about their own and maybe a few others, why can't NijiEN be the same? Did the box push mindset rub off to much on western fanbases?

>>8209697
Petra seemed alright at a glance - cute voice, multi-lingual, can kinda sing, dedicated otaku, why wouldn't she fit?

In practice though she doesn't have much a personality. With someone like Ina, she's flat (in more than one sense) on stream, but sometimes has a heart to heart moment with the audience about whatever - she just likes chilling, or encouraging her viewers to chin up and go for what they want in life, she expects nothing and is just happy to be there, if she weren't on the other side of the screen she just would have been one us as a fan etc, that makes her very very personable suddenly.

I don't really get that sudden soulful connection from Petra. I don't watch her enough to really know if she's like that honestly so I'm perhaps pulling shit out my ass, but it sounds like no, what I saw of her is how she always is. She's still very new, only a few weeks old, she can experiment and figure out her vibe still. She just hasn't hit it yet - some got it down perfect from day 1 like Selen or Pomu and others took some time like Finana. Petra's just more like the latter.

>>8209808
You have no idea what you’re talking about you reddit spacing blogposting faggot

>>8209506
>Whatever the motives of those "gura killer!!!"
Well, about that... I'll put this here
>New vtuber
>Call it Gura killer
>If it succeeds, continue to shit on Gura
>If it fails, start falseflagging as chumbuds to shit on the new vtuber
And this thread is one of those where it fails but minus the chumbuds falseflag this time, maybe when the new rat girl also fails.

>>8209850
Great retort fagface, surely you help the case to watch Petra when your only defense is to attack any attempt at attempting to help her. If you think my opinion doesn't matter because I like Holo you also are demonstrating NijiEN's sudden flagging. Gatekeep out the obvious source of most of your fans and reap the consequences.

Just like on /jp/, if your goal is to one day have a general mostly walled off on a discord that takes like 5 days to hit bump limit? What do you call that, besides a mountain of pathetic, unwarranted elitist cope?

>>8209800
/vt/ mods are more nazi than in Nijicord.
I got mass reported by chumbuds for saying her outfit is bad and got banned for (((trolling))).
Nijicord has occasional holo mentions but not a trashtalk.

>>8209876
According to a poll on /vt/ the red rat has the most antis in holo en 2. Makes me think most of this drama is from people who don't watch nijisanji or hololive and are just feasting on attention.

>>8209910
It have been banned for saying Gura was idol crying on her birthday and I got banned once for saying tribal wars are silly and pathetic.

>>8209361
anon... musician's liveshows dont need to fill a stadium to be successful, they wouldn't get a stadium gig in the first place anyway, bands do small shows all the time and do well usually.
stop inflating success with just big numbers, success begins with a modest living.

>>8209926
>Makes me think most of this drama is from people who don't watch nijisanji or hololive and are just feasting on attention.
Welcome to the majority of people on the board and the negative side of being a fast board

>>8209950
Perhaps you went around going off about "nijiniggers" or "holobronies" - I noticed mods (or at least one of them) really does not take kindly to that talk, because it's obvious /v/ tier childish shittery.

>>8209697
Picking "2 views" with heavy scouting like Cover did for Gen1 is riskier but also offers more variety. Honestly all of NijiEN offers almost the same thing.
Holo Gen1 may have less chemistery but individually provide pretty atypical experiences and shine trough it. This board may not like Mori but she's doing very well, and you won't find anyone like her ever again.
NijiEN went with mostly zoomers terminally on twitter within a similar bubble, thus getting easy chemistery but losing originality, it's a trade off. I have a feel HoloEN gen2 might be more like NijiEN however, we'll see.

>>8209905
Jesus you guys whine the second someone calls you a fag.

>>8209989
I see both terms used every hour of every day without any bans. The moderation is inconsistent and arbitrary.

>>8209808
The comparaison with Ina makes no sense, Ina has a very specific style that got a lot of people invested in her cult like following, and she got great viewer retention. Chill doesn't mean boring and vice versa.

I don't know what you maggots are discussing here but is the Penguin funny or not?

>>8209263
Why is senzawa getting 600 views based but this penguin girl getting 600 views not based? They’d both be in the 1%

>>8210069
No. Just a bit cute.

>>8209999
Yeah, I was thinking maybe the issue with NijiEN is if you like the style they offer you're up to your eyeballs in it, but if you don't really, there isn't a lot on your plate.

Even so, I'd argue they do have a fair bit of variety in their talents between Finana's zoomer-coomer thing, Pomu being a legit otaku (of various kinds) and Selen being a legit gamer (at Apex at least). Thing is, that's just how you'd stat them on paper. In practice, they kind of are very similar in personalities - just cheery all the time, they all get along with each other and it gets kind of samey day after day. Almost fake feeling.

Petra isn't quite like the rest but is just called 'boring' as a result instead of a kuudere, which I think was her design but unfortunately that pushes the other Nijis to be even more of forced-happy if they are afraid of being called boring.

>>8210069
Only when she gets bullied in collabs.

>>8210069
If you find watching paint dry funny, yes she's funny

>>8209999
>Honestly all of NijiEN offers almost the same thing.
Ay yes Pomu and Selen basically the same person.

>>8210121
Same meal with a different seasoning yes

FAT SHIT
HAND SKID MARKS
SOUNDS LIKE PUSSY
EGG

>>8210090
If she was supposed to be kuudere she is doing a bad job.
Giggles constantly, acts scared, isn't concentrating on games, tries to be cute too hard.
Twitter Petra and YouTube Petra are like different people.

>>8210069
She was hilarious in that collab with Elira. Never seen someone suck that hard at games.

>>8210173
She is so bad she needed to get carried around in Mario, and put on a leash in Minecraft.

>>8208658
May this be a lesson to retarded vtubers who prohibit lewds

>>8208921
I know someone who probably did.
She's a little strange.

>>8210085
>at the time
You know back in 2019-2020

>>8210355
You underestimate how many vtubers there are getting sub 10 views. Being at 100 puts you in the 99th percentile even now.

>>8209506
They're laughing stocks and now they're trying to make holofans infight by claiming Baelz will be the Gura killer.

>>8208711
Maybe but Gura likes her own cunny on twitter so I really couldn't give a fuck less about the CCPenguin

>>8209055
I mean it is good atm but once the next EN waves come, that may eat up Petra's number.

>>8210397
We can at least agree on this

Holo JP > Niji JP

Niji EN > Holo EN

This is the truth. Maybe EN2 will save HoloEN but I doubt it.

>>8209850
Are you another one of those retards who thinks block paragraphs on a variable width website are "reddit spacing?" Try learning English. No way I'd use indent on a fucking online forum.

>>8210439
>We

>>8210460
If you don't agree that's fine, it just means you're a retard

>>8209263
tbqh if you had 10 viewers, youre at the top 10% of streamers

>>8210430
That's to be seen, people overestimate the overlap sometimes.

>>8210439
>we

>>8209697
I don't like their recruitment style as a viewer because we're not getting anything new out of them just vacuuming up popular indies. You could have been watching Pomu or Selen before Niji picked them up and got basically the same content.
For the chuuba on the other hand it's great, Pomu now gets 10-15x her old numbers doing the exact same thing just because of the brand.

>>8210568
>Outing yourself as a globalfag
Yikes

>>8210439
kek
I mean look at these nubmers
He's not wrong

>>8210581
>You could have been watching Pomu or Selen before Niji picked them up and got basically the same content.
But the vast majority of their viewers now probably wouldn't have been doing that since they didn't know who they were. Even if you're a proven indy there's still a ceiling you can't pass unless you're in a group like Hololive or Nijisanji.

>>8210581
thats not much different from hololive, its been shown holofans will just watch anyone with the holobrand

>>8210439
nigger Gura sang Sabaton to 40k viewers, HoloEN doesn't need saving.

>>8210660
Small numbers mean comfy chat
Nijichads can't stop winning

>>8210660
>>8210747
>Numbers
Just because a ton of normalfags like the new Star Wars movies doesn't mean they weren't utter shit. HoloEN is objectively boring and they're all autistic with no chemistry. You retards might as well argue reddit is better because more people post there.

>>8210439
>>8210804
I've been here for nearly one year now and I met a lot of retartds but for the last 3 months you fuckers really take the cake

>>8210672
Yes, that's why I said it's good for the chuubas themselves, the brand is helping them with discovery. In terms of the overall pool of vtubers you could be watching, though, they've only added Finana.

>>8210742
Of course it applies to both, but only 2 of HoloEN really seriously tried streaming before getting in. Mori for example would never have tried streaming as a vtuber without them recruiting her.

>>8210804
>objectively
>boring
choose one

>>8210860
>but only 2 of HoloEN really seriously tried streaming before getting in. Mori for example would never have tried streaming as a vtuber without them recruiting her.
IMO this makes it fresh. Their newness to the whole streaming provides new content.

>>8210804
Unfortunately for you the real world doesn't care about your feelings, it runs on facts and money. HoloEN is a more successful branch than NijiEN in terms of Sub count, view count and money.

You want a Nijiwin? compare Nijimales vs Holostars, you want to be delusional believe that they're ahead of COVER everywhere else.

>>8210906
He's too high on copium.

>>8210906
>Avatar made the most money so it's the best movie ever

>>8210950
>Comparing a movie which is usually a one time thing to something that's ongoing and is still developing.

Cope more nijikek

>>8210978
I watch Hololive more than Nijisanji but there's no escaping HoloEN is complete shit that drew in the most retarded normalfags like yourself.

>>8211027
>most retarded normalfags like yourself.
>normalfag
Says the tard that keeps mentioning movies that normies watched.

>>8210978
You can do that with on going movie or video game series as well, or maybe bigger youtubers or streamers.

>>8211043
You know you're being baited by SEAfucks into teaching him English right?

>>8211027
You sure love typing normalfags huh?
Trying too hard to fit in?

>>8210978
isnt there still 5 more avatar movies in the works, thats still ongoing and developing dumbass

>>8210439
>We
But i can only hope that they bring life to EN Minecraft server, i love watching Irys's minecraft streams.

>>8211076
Did I mention avatar?
I said "movie".
Fucking retarded SEA monkey.

I hope numberfags die irl.

>>8211175
I wouldn't complain if she was indie but Anycolor paid for this top tier avatar and she fucking wasted it.

>>8210090
> I was thinking maybe the issue with NijiEN is if you like the style they offer you're up to your eyeballs in it, but if you don't really, there isn't a lot on your plate.
>Thing is, that's just how you'd stat them on paper. In practice, they kind of are very similar in personalities - just cheery all the time, they all get along with each other and it gets kind of samey day after day. Almost fake feeling.
I was thinking you're talking about HoloJP kek
It's funny how Niji and Holo swap their dynamic in EN brach

>>8211175
Instead they get an entire general

>>8210581
>I don't like their recruitment style as a viewer because we're not getting anything new out of them just vacuuming up popular indies.
chill, the 6 nijiENs were from the same audition, and that was the first audition for niji where no one hears of them in the west outside of people in vtuber circle, maybe they will get more talent from ouside vtuber circle in later audition

I want to see Petra succeed. She does have a few good streams under her belt, but what I fail to understand is why she simply doesn't go all out. To be blunt, Petra strikes me as a good girl, a pretty normal, lovable girl behind the screen. However, when it comes to vtubing she simply needs to relax and show us how odd and weird she can be. I'm guessing an unfiltered Petra is an interesting watch. Her cooking stream was unintentionally great comedy - she started the stream claiming she knows what she's doing and that she has done it a thousand times, and then EVERYTHING went wrong and it was fucking hilarious. Her collab with Rosemi and Selen where they played Mario was great too, they go well together and their contrasting personalities bounce off each other.

Her model is great, I like her voice, she can sing, and the only reason I feel she isn't growing as she could is that she's too attached to either her parents or some idea of "public opinion." She seems too self-aware in the wrong way. As a streamer behind an avatar, she is playing a ROLE. She is ACTING. And is in an unique position where she can just forget about who is really is and display all the hidden parts of her personality which don't fly IRL for various reasons. This is how life is, and more importantly this is how vtubing is. NOBODY WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE OR FIND IT WRONG IF YOU'RE WEIRD while being Petra. That makes for great content and doesn't reflect upon your real life in the slightest.

The whole ordeal with the ecchi content was a mistake. The kind of people who bitched about that are precisely the kind of people who are most vocal and most disinterested. The first thing, the FIRST thing any person who watches vtubers (or anime, or a cartoon) and grew attached to a character is to look up porn of said character. Anyone claiming otherwise is a fucking liar. By caving in to these twitter turds she shot herself in the knee, because the bottom line is this translates to "No Fun Allowed." And those people don't watch her at all, or are invested in her, or care about her. They simply love to complain and make others fall in line.

Pomu carved out a niche for herself while just being Pomu. A woman plugged deeply into the culture, and with her own way of doing things. Rosemi is still struggling but is invested. I'm not sure if others noticed this, but her last ASMR stream had tech difficulties and there was no audio. When audio was restored (it was a random glitch: OBS shat itself by itself and just decided to start working) I could tell in the first few sentences she spoke that she was on the verge of crying. She quickly recovered her composure and did what she could, promising a better ASMR soon to come. She clearly wants to entertain us. Petra... Petra needs to relax, cut loose, experiment. Maybe she needs more collabs with Pomu or Selen, or Rosemi, or Finana, or other Niji's to get into the groove by osmosis.

There's another problem though - timeslots. Nijisanji dropped the ball completely at the very start. Cover went all in, balls deep, into EN. They took it seriously at the start while Niji did not. By the time they started properly Holo EN was already flying high and we all grew attached to this or that chuuba. I am known as Schizocroat in Gura's threads, and I am deeply attached to Gura. But I am not a tribalfaggot. I watch girls I enjoy, simple as. But when timeslots overlap I WILL choose Gura, and I think this time slot issue is handicapping Niji. They need to time their streams when HoloEN isn't streaming. This will cause more people to check out their content, and some will stay and grow attached. It's a different experience watching stuff live that as a VOD.

The alcohol is kicking in. Petra, I watch you and want to see you succeed. Try to relax. Experiment. When you start streaming you are Petra, and nobody else. What happens in the stream stays in the stream.

>>8211571

0.0

>>8211571
>Her cooking stream was unintentionally great comedy - she started the stream claiming she knows what she's doing and that she has done it a thousand times, and then EVERYTHING went wrong and it was fucking hilarious.
Thanks going to watch this.

>When audio was restored (it was a random glitch: OBS shat itself by itself and just decided to start working) I could tell in the first few sentences she spoke that she was on the verge of crying
Can you provide a time stamp of the stream?

>>8211571
By Hololive EN Gen5, Hololive will rule Youtube.

>>8211571
Based cunny chad

>>8208711
The she should follow the anya way : get Nihongo jouzud by her JP senpai

>>8208658
>streaming for no one, not friendly to either EN or JP times, JP was still at work
>streaming debuff game
>vs Indog doing novelty stream and streaming during prime SEAnigger time
She's still fine. She just needs to stop pretending she's Japanese.

>>8211706
Her ASMR stream wasn't archived because of the scuff. Sorry.

>>8211731
I've been in this shithole website since late 2005. 'nuff said.

>>8209687
chammers
shion yo

>>8208658
600 is pretty normal for NijiEN, Rosemi's stream today had the same amount.
Stop numberfigging.

>>8211847
Stop it, you're going to bring out the anon who posts about midgets again

They should just contact Mori and ask for a Niji x HoloEN collab. Mori will say yes because she's a hopeless saviorfag.

>>8212168
It's not like Petra can even be considering EN at this point, so it's totally fair to compare her to Indogs.

>>8212293
Petra is CN

>>8208921
famelira watch the full 8 hour streams

I have nothing against Petra personally, but I think it's best if she isn't saved. She needs to crash and burn so that Niji EN learns a lesson not to recruit bilibili streamers.

>>8209506
I can tell you right now those weren't chumbuds, just shitposters fishing for (You)s. They call every other new chuuba a "Gura Killer". IRyS and the new rat holo included.

>>8211027
>Hololive is more popular? That means they're SHIT and for NORMALFAGS, Nijis win!
>Hololive is less popular? That means they're SHIT and nobody likes them, Nijis win!
This is just console war mentality and mental gymnastics. All of them have good things to offer, Hololive is just a much stronger brand outside Japan thanks to outreach work done by their JP talents who actually actively engage with their EOP viewers and tons of fan translators.

>>8211571
I'll watch that cooking stream.

>>8208658
she's playing a debuff game. she needs to stick with Minecraft, Apex and Genshin
>>8208711
Anya has three times the subs as the penguin does it's not nearly as bad viewers:subs ratio-wise

Petra is boring when streaming alone, heck she's even boring as a collab partner standing on equal ground when she collabed with Elira. She need to be subject of bullying to be entertaining, just like when Obsydia collabed in Minecraft before. She let out herself real good when she's being whipped around. She needs to be bullied. Bullied Petra, yes very good.

>>8208658
Don't worry penguin
There is a NijiJP rookie not doing very well too

>>8211571
Pretty passionate paragraphs anon, it's kinda nice to see you care about the penguin girl

>>8211571
>To be blunt, Petra strikes me as a good girl, a pretty normal, lovable girl behind the screen. However, when it comes to vtubing she simply needs to relax and show us how odd and weird she can be.

I'm watching the cooking stream. You nailed it here. She's trying her best, I can feel it. She's panicking when things dont go her way and gets frustrated. It's cute though. She'll get the hang of things someday.

>>8213004
HoloJP is good but if you enjoy HoloEN then you're legitimately brain damaged sorry. You're on the same level as retards who watch Sharknado

>>8209506
The “Gura killers” are just like the WoW killers that the MMO market pumped out. Having that branding by the “fans” just hurts the new idols who have their own unique qualities and charms. With Gura being as big as she is now just like WoW the only thing that can kill her is herself or Cover imploding and taking the Avatar with them.

>>8208658
even collab cant save her...

>>8215749
>APEX is a buff game
Fewer viewers than regular. She is just learning this game because she thinks it is what streamers do. There is no passion.

>>8215749
The fuck didn't this girl have like 70k viewers on debut and her gen was the most successful Niji gen ever?
What the fuck happened?

>>8217509
Nothing just their debut buff fading away

The only good wave 2 girl is Selen (and by far, she's arguably best nijiEN). I love her. Not just for Apex, but retro games (metal slug, starcraft).

Rosemi and Petra are boring. They have no niche.

Well, if she wanted an audience, maybe she shouldn't have streamed half the time in jp while labelled as an eng girl.

>>8217975
Selen has SOUL. That's what it takes to stand out. Nobody cares about a basic bitch, because all basic bitches are interchangeable carbon copies of one another.

Before being themselves, they should first find a self to be.

> Muted mic during RFA stream
> "Sorry! I'm taken, i have a bf"
> Less charisma than Anya with her anger issues

>>8219864
>"Sorry! I'm taken, i have a bf"
explain

>>8209200
That's not true though. She had 1 mil before Gura debut. Did you just lie because you thought it was the truth? Now you have to explain yourself.

>>8220113
petra=whore
her fans=cucks

>>8208772
dangerously based

>>8208658
Her fault for rejecting cunnygods. We will not be denied without consequences.
I expect naked dogeza, bare cunny reveal and a complete transition to GFE content if she wants to survive.

>>8220271
again, explain

>>8220113
/u/schizo shit
Her gen ship is with Rosemi...or at least it was.
Unironically, Rosemi is also struggling with views

>>8216738
why are you projecting so hard ?

>>8209008
eh, let her do what she wants and she feels more genuine, Onimusha is a old no name game and it was one of her best early streams Apex excluded

>>8219864
>Muted mic during RFA stream
Extremely based

>>8219313
>Before being themselves, they should first find a self to be.

Man

This can apply to all the different platitudes about "being yourself", for any situation.

>>8220466
>Try to watch Rose
>Stream turns into another just chatting

>>8217509
APEX debuff. It might be fun to play, but it's boring to watch if you're not invested in competitive FPS yourself.

Am I crazy or is her avatar blurry

>nijishitter numbercope thread #3409545309
>"b-but I swear we don't care about numbers"
rumao rumao kusa www

>>8208658
so this is the power of being cute and funny and rejecting your art.

>>8209687
How old is she?

>>8208658
>debuff game
>endurance stream
Her numbers are fine.
The real question is SCs.

>>8209506
Lmao you mad, my job here is done.

>>8208945
this, kiara even admited that doing that was a debuff for her and that she doesn't translate stuff so much now and when she does she tries to do it pretty fast.

>>8208921
I hate you casual faggots so much
No wonder you like Niji, all it is the exact kind of cancer your normalfags like
I have a job and a family to take care of and work probably twice as hard as you but I still have time to watch multi-hour streams every day and donate thousands of dollars. Fuck you, you are a disgrace to the hobby, you ironic weeb, I will shit greek fire on you

>>8208887
I'm assuming that's superchat reading portion

>>8224050
Yes, and it was also 4AM in the US

>>8223895
>I have a job and a family to take care of and work probably twice as hard as you but I still have time to watch multi-hour streams every day and donate thousands of dollars. Fuck you, you are a disgrace to the hobby, you ironic weeb, I will shit greek fire on you

>>8220228
Nta, but she didn't cross 1M, anon.

>>8208658
Send her back to China

>>8208658
niji is all about the survival of the strong and the abandonment pf the weak, so who would she be saved when she repeatedly shown how weak and unredeemable she is?

>>8208658
chop her chinkness off

>>8211571
Even more than overlapping Hololive they need to not overlap each other as much

What surprised me was the sheer talent and presentation of Petra's visual novel-style debut stream. That took a lot of effort to put together, much more effort than I've seen from the penguin's other streams anyway.

>>8208690
She has he design but not the personality

How much more/less successful do you think Gura would be if she had Petra's model?

>>8209697
Wave 3 is coming

>>8226262
More.
Non-rhombus gura would be better.

>>8226262
less
sharks are way cooler than retarded ice chickens

>>8208658
>NijiEN

Ok but does she really good at English like us?

>>8226664

How badly will she bet hit by Holo en 2?

>>8219864
> Muted mic during RFA stream
You either didn't watch the stream or your audio's busted.

>>8223197
21 years old
>>8227928
Most of her fans are jp or english non-holo fans, so not much at all.
>>8212080
It's not normal for NijiEN but it will be normal in the future with more members. Petra and Rosemi with less than 1k are just a show of the future.

>>8215686
Nah her stream with Finana was good, where Petra seemed 200 IQ next to her. For some reason the Elira collab was more boring than her other streams. But what I really want to see is a JP collab. Maybe niji jp fans are too schizo for collabs or something. I still don't know wtf is going on with niji in general, they really do a shit job at getting overseas interaction.

>>8227991
I don't see a "noise" compilation/clip for her RFA stream(s) so I believe it.