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Does she even have any legitimate talent, or is her only personality trait is that she's dying?

>> No.8188152

>>8188057
t.never watched her singing skills

>> No.8188155
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Post your favorite Vtuber edits

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>>8188155

>> No.8188292

>>8188057
She can sing. And I don't mean your anime OP singing either.

>> No.8188297

>>8188057
>Vshojo
>Talent
Kek

>> No.8188360

>>8188057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtp4h4KQGGM

>> No.8188402

>>8188057
She has classical opera training. Admittedly it's incomplete because she couldn't go to school anymore

>> No.8188455

>>8188057
She’s a classically trained opera singer you absolute fucknut

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>> No.8188551

>>8188057
/vt/ is full of opera experts, some of the biggest opera experts in the field are here and will CONFIRM to you she is extremely talented. she is one of the BEST opera singers in the world! can any other vtuber sing opera? no? exactly! so she is extremely talented of course.

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>>8188360
>>8188152
>>8188292
Not any more, kek

>> No.8188673

>>8188610
she can't sing anymore?

>> No.8188727

>>8188057
She's not even good at dying

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>>8188727

>> No.8188936

Has there been any actual proof that she is dying?

>> No.8188985

>>8188057
god i want to compromise her crippled immune system with my filthy dick

>> No.8189716

>>8188936
I wouldn’t doubt If its attention leverage. What she can sing? So can like. 9 others. She has to stand out somehow. There was the rumors a while ago that she was actually a man, so gotta keep yourself in the spotlight

>> No.8189972

Does anyone actually believe you need talent to be successful as an entertainer outside of "Being entertaining"? Legit question.

>> No.8190393

>>8189972
Above all else, viewers want someone who can deal with the grind of the job's responsibilities and be entertaining enough during the streams. Being good at anything is bonus material for artfriends and lorefriends in the chat to work with.

Talent is a burden. It takes away time streamers could be spending doing dumb shit on stream instead.

>> No.8190462

>>8188936
No not at all.

>> No.8190863

>>8188936
What do you want? A letter from her doctor? Her medical records?

>> No.8191030

>>8188673
I'm going to assume that he means her condition limits her due to reduced lung capacity.

>> No.8191045

>>8188057
she has a big brown culo

>> No.8191176

>>8191030
I was just assuming he was a retard

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>>8188155

>> No.8191442

>>8188057
I don't want to watch this vtuber I decided I hate, please /vt/ confirm what I already think!

>> No.8191826

>>8188057
she used to have character, but as of late she's been swiftly losing it all

>> No.8192031

>>8188057
Tell me you never watched her without telling me you never watched her

>> No.8192091

>>8188610
She still mogs 99% of other Vtubers while being unable to sing at full capacity.

>> No.8192725

>>8188057
>Dying (fast)
>From literal who? country
>Maybe using 5% of her pre-aids power
>Still more succesful than any shitposter on this rotten board
No one will remember you after your death Anon.

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You're still butthurt from getting ignored in the general 2 weeks ago?

>> No.8193110

>>8188057
never watched her, why is she dying?

>> No.8193144 [DELETED] 

>>8188057
Vtubing is not a talent show. We just watch however we find entertaining and bond with them

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Her career is so linked to a certain welsh guys that when he is inevitably ousted as a groomer idk how she’ll recover

>> No.8193569

>>8188610
>shitposting about ironmouse's singing while posting the only holo en that has no singing talent at all

>> No.8193684

>>8188936
There hasn't because she's not. CVID is not a terminal illness. It just makes you extremely fragile.

>> No.8193749

>>8188936
Na but it's pretty obvious when she's on medication, which she periodically takes during streams and ends up being dead for a bit.

>> No.8193772

>>8188057
The ultimate saviorfag bait...

>> No.8193778

>>8188610
She was singing like a week ago bro

>> No.8193793

>>8192725
>literal who country
Puerto Rico is part of the US bro.

>> No.8193827 [DELETED] 

>>8188936
You can hear her medical equipment right next to her during streams

>> No.8193935

>>8193778
Was singing yesterday for the last hour+ of the stream

>> No.8193956

>>8188057
Literally Who?

>> No.8194124

>>8188727
O love mouse but good one

>> No.8194187

>Vsluts
>Talent

>> No.8194531

>>8193110
She's not. However:

- Ironmouse has an immune disorder called CVID. It's not an autoimmune disorder, that's when the body attacks itself. CVID is a deficiency disorder, where the body doesn't make enough antibodies. While the end effect is similar to AIDS, CVID is a genetic condition and not contagious.

- Ironmouse receives regular plasma transfusions to take advantage of the antibodies produced by donors. This helps her fight off common everyday infections, but it's not a full replacement of normal immune ability. She still must isolate, especially to stay away from stronger infections.

- CVID can be not as pronounced when the person is younger, and Ironmouse had a relatively normal life up to a point. She went to school, went to beaches with friends (but couldn't go into the water), and had sexual relationships. One encounter resulted in jizz in her eye, which caused an infection and her needing to wear an eye patch for two weeks.

- One infection that really fucked her over was a MAC infection, MAC bacteria are everywhere in the environment and healthy immune systems fight them off all the time without any fuss. For Ironmouse, the infection permanently damaged a lot of her lungs and continues to fester there. She regularly has to take some Fuck Off-class antibiotics to keep the infection at bay. This medication has the fun side effect of possible PERMANENT DEAFNESS. It's already given her tinnitus.

- Ironmouse has difficultly digesting most food. Both a single fry and a rice cracker have "not ended well". I'm not sure if she's ever gone into specific detail why this is, but it's a good bet it's her CVID and/or antibiotics that are fucking with her gut biome. She gets her nutrients via meal replacement milkshakes, which she's grown tired of.

- Long, repeated stays in hospitals and being bedridden at home has caused major muscular atrophy. She's (very very) slowly getting some strength back, but even just sitting up in bed has been impossible.

- Unrelated to any medical issues, Ironmouse has a phobia of birds, after a childhood incident where one got caught in her hair and scratched the fuck out of her trying to escape. She also has a phobia of outer space.

>> No.8194668

>>8194531
>possible side effects
Bro. Tylenol has the possible side effects of death. Don't take that shit too seriously.

>> No.8194743

>>8194668
>It's already given her tinnitus.

>> No.8194807

>>8194668
Going deaf from the antibiotics she's taking is much more common than the freak Tylenol death.

>> No.8194875

>>8194531
bruh, why keep livin then? amrite?

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>>8194531
>She also has a phobia of outer space.
Commandeering this thread to focus on the real issue here.

How do we get Ironmouse to play Space Engine. I don't say this because I want her to suffer(I do like her a lot), but just for the sake of entertainment, perhaps as some sort of punishment stream, she needs to know about this game. If she already does and decided it's not for her then fair enough, but I don't understand how no one has made a serious effort to at least inform her of it.

>> No.8196351

>>8195082
She actually needs some punishment for failing a seiso stream recently she fucked up 21 fucking times lol and someone suggested Elite Dangerous but she denied it because she was afraid it would give her a legitimate panic attack. There were also vids of the game in one of her punishment streams where she had to watch a playlist of bird and space videos.

>> No.8196732

>>8189972
In vtubing the bar is set super high thanks to hololive. The most famous chuubas have at leadt one talent.

>> No.8196911

>>8188057

Her singing streams are amazing, especially when she breaks out the opera voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYp7cPCmjQc

>> No.8196930

>>8194668
Deafness from amikacin is a fucking 10% chance under normal, intended use. Yearly Tylenol deaths from misuse are only about 500 in the entire US population.

The odds are significantly different.

>> No.8197062

>>8194531
>permanent lung damage
>can't even sit up on the bed
>can't eat normal food
>her own medicine is fucking her up even more
Jesas christ

>> No.8197117

>>8194668
>Comparing g-grade antibiotics (which is most likely what she is taking from what I've read) to generic Tylenol
Anon...I hope you don't self medicate.

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>>8194668
>>8196930
To put it in other terms, Ironmoouse has the same chance of going deaf from her medicine as Thunderbolt does to paralyze a Pokemon.
>>8197117
I don't know what "grade" it is, but I do how serious it is: amikacin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1G8XyTV_s 6m mark. Also, a great example of high Ironmouse immediately after.

>> No.8197605

>>8188057
well instead of Veibae or Nyanners, Ironmouse keeps it a little bit more real. Nyanners is a hypocrite.

>> No.8197973

>>8197367
>I don't know what "grade" it is, but I do how serious it is: amikacin
Amikacin is S-grade, specifically 30-S grade, it is pretty fucking strong, guaranteed to give you nightmares also.

>> No.8198064

how do I ask the supreme court to legalize human euthanasia so Iron mouse can die peacefully?

>> No.8198078

>>8197605
Greekchama please

>> No.8198289

>>8198064
Have her move to Canada.

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>>8188610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7zwWqSIpU
She was trained since childhood until she dropped out of school because of her illness. She can still sing as well as she does despite her health because she's probably in the top three of vtubers with the most professional vocal instruction.

>> No.8198644

>>8198064
Just offer yourself up as a euthanasia test subject and I'm sure everyone else will carry on your work after you're gone

>> No.8198779

>>8198644
being alive is kinda gay...

>> No.8199240

>>8195082
The space thing is more than just a knee jerk gut reaction like her fear of birds. Thinking about astronomical scales really fucks with her head and induces cosmic horror in her. She started freaking out watching a video with Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue over it.

>> No.8199306 [DELETED] 

How is her daughter these days?

>> No.8199462

holy shit OP just ripped ironlouse a new batch of assholes

>> No.8199481

>Talent talent talent
That's all you Holofags ever talk about (asides from numbers). Since when was vtubing a talent show?

>> No.8199482 [DELETED] 

>>8199306
Assuming she has a daughter, taking her income into account, her parents are probably raising her well.

>> No.8199671

>>8199240
It's also a bit of an acquired phobia. She first got hit by it while she was high as fuck and staring into the night sky. Depending on the drug, being on it enough can alter how your brain handles things. It becomes more malleable, in a sense, to new ideas and ways to react to things. For example, weed helps a lot with PTSD therapy and other mental health problems. In Ironmouse's case, she essentially got scared enough to fuck up her brain about space.

I assume.

The bird thing is 100% childhood trauma.

>> No.8200628

>>8198641
Top 3 indies maybe

>> No.8201482

>>8194531
the RRATs are evolving
mix in legitimate information with your own fanfics.

>> No.8201513

>>8194875
an existence of suffering is still better than no existence at all

>> No.8202160

>>8201482
This is literally the FAQ copy and pasted from her discord, faggot

>> No.8202817

>>8201513
Look at this clown thinking that 'cause of his primal surviving instincts. Bet you'd love burning in hell for all eternity rather than not existing

>> No.8203179

>>8202160
I wrote that. Maybe someone copied it and put it in a discord server, but originally I wrote it for another 4chan thread and saved it for future use. If it's being used in a discord server, I'd love a screenshot.

>>8201482
Everything I wrote in there is either information directly out of her mouth, information from wikipedia about diseases, or reasonable guesses that I directly say are guesses.

>> No.8203278

>>8201482
Which parts do you think are not true?

>> No.8204813

>>8200628
Loru

>> No.8205100

>>8193231
Welshman is more likely to be gay honesty

>> No.8205384

>>8203179
>>8202160
>I wrote that. Maybe someone copied it and put it in a discord server, but originally I wrote it for another 4chan thread and saved it for future use. If it's being used in a discord server, I'd love a screenshot.

It isn't. I just looked and Mouse has two sections for "IRL" info she's willing to share and general FAQ and neither have this verbatim. Though the IRL part has quite a bit of the same info you have here explained differently, the post you made has more details that they omit from the Discord page.

>> No.8205500

>>8194875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiVpWK0B380

>> No.8209765

>>8193231
>Her career is so linked to a certain welsh guy
It really isn't.

>> No.8209839

>Still believing that she's sick and not just playing it for pity money
Vshitters are truly the most retarded and gullible fanbase

>> No.8212527

>>8209839
If it's a lie, it sure is an elaborate one and maintaining it seems much more hassle than any potential gain

>> No.8216407

>>8203278
>One encounter resulted in jizz in her eye, which caused an infection and her needing to wear an eye patch for two weeks.
in hindsight ironmouse would bring something like this up but this particular set up sounds like a huge stretch

>> No.8216497

>>8188610
dont use my oshi to insult other ppl, retardchama

>> No.8216932

>>8196732
>>8189972
What is Pekora
Stop having wrong dumb opinions

>> No.8219728

>>8216932
>What is Pekora
A rabbit you stupid fuck

>> No.8220473

>>8216407
>but this particular set up sounds like a huge stretch
In what way? It sounds perfectly plausible to me.

>> No.8221810

>>8216407
Go to pornhub
Type in facial
Be shocked at how dum you are

>> No.8222176

>>8197973
Neat I didn't know that. Then something else can be added to that big post. Because of her increasing strength she's been talking to her doctor about weaning her off of some of her medications and she said that as she's started doing that she's started to dream again after not having done so in years. And I can also confirm from regularly watching her that nightmares seem to be somewhat common.

>> No.8222237

>>8222176
Who knows she might become able to sing opera again.

>> No.8222759

You could say her talent is staying alive

>> No.8224104

>>8188057
I find myself liking mousey less and less as time progresses

>> No.8224608

I want fuck her to death.
I want the last thing she sees is my nut glazing her withered body as the light envelops her.

>> No.8224666

>>8192091
>while being unable to sing at full capacity
Irrelevant. Unless you love watching the Paralympics

>> No.8224756

>>8194531
>She also has a phobia of outer space.
Very relatable

>> No.8224953

>>8224666
>Irrelevant
In what way? What does it mean if I can run faster, on a broken leg, than most completely able-bodied runners?

>> No.8225037

>>8224953
The only important part is that you can run faster, the "while being unable to sing at full capacity" or "on a broken leg" doesn't matter, especially if the condition is not temporary but chronic

>> No.8225218

>>8194531
>>8195082
How the fuck do you have a phobia of outer space? Does she just have a phobia of looking at the night sky, how else is she interacting with outer space in any way whatsoever?

>> No.8225224

>>8188936
Aside from the coughing fits, the pictures of her online, and that people have actually met her irl? None I guess.

>> No.8225283

Nice a doctor tread.

>> No.8225308

>>8188057
Shes fucking annoying but cute

And even though she acts whorish im pretty shes a bit less of a degen than the other vshojo "girls"

>> No.8225363

>>8188727
Kek

>> No.8225398

>>8225218
I don't know about her, but for me the vastness and emptiness of it terrifies me. I get the same fear on the sea, especially underwater

>> No.8225491

>>8225308
OP doesn’t understand that girls don’t have to have talent.
They just need to be cute, and do cute things.

>> No.8225505

>>8195082
She sat through like 3 hours of videos about space and birds the other day as part of her charity goal.

>> No.8225556

>>8225398
Dude, there’s nothing in space to be scared of. You can’t even go to space.
Are you too scared to go outside because the sky is “too vast”?

>> No.8225574

>muh talent
She's cute and entertaining, and that's more than I can say for half of HoloEN

>> No.8225635

>>8225556
There is a LOT in space to be scared of. It's a fascinating yet incredibly dangerous place where practically everything is lethal to us.

>> No.8225682

>>8188936
are you saying a woman would lie to get sympathy and attention on the internet? Crazy

>> No.8225685

>2021
>still believing letting your talent interact with m*les will decrease stream quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvILbUgMHu0
i shiggy diggy shololope you guys dont do this

>> No.8225720

>>8225218
As a teenager, she got really high and looked up at the stars and it fucked her up

>> No.8225735

>>8225218
According to her, it was two things conflated together. The first was a science teacher talking about the vastness of the universe and all the insignificance of humanity and then she looked up at a star filled sky when she was younger and may or may not have been in an altered state of consciousness and she basically got her own version of the Total Perspective Vortex from The Hitchhiker's Guide series.

>> No.8225815

>>8225398
Underwater isn't empty, it's completely the opposite, there's tons of cool shit there. I think you're on average closer to a reasonably sized deep sea fish in the depths of the ocean than you would be to a reasonably sized mammal or something on land. Obviously on the bacterial level then the sea has way more of that than the air.

>> No.8225869

>>8225635
You’ll never go to empty-ass space. Calm down lil

>> No.8225943

>>8225685
I want those 4 minutes back.

>> No.8225989

>>8225869
NTA, but anything from “empty-ass” space can end up here

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>>8188155

>> No.8226057

>>8225556
I'm aware that my fear is irrational, but that's how it is. Not everything is rational in life. I could probably get through it with some therapy or whatever, but it only manifests itself some times when playing video games or when having bad dreams

>> No.8226098

>>8225815
It's not about animals, it's about not having land or anything close, and no visibility. If you've ever played subnautica, there are some moments like that where you don't see anything and just go deeper and deeper. That scares the shit out of me for some reason

>> No.8226103

why is there even a general on /vt/? are they liking them ironically?

>> No.8226128

So when is she actually going to die?

>> No.8226260

>>8225218
it's called an existential crisis, anon. Space and the things in it are big, and we are small. It fucks some people up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqnqYgTOUc

>> No.8226314

>>8226103
>why is there even a general on /vt/ for the biggest vtuber agency on twitch?
Legitimately schizophrenic.

>> No.8226334

I really want to know if she's seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJ1dbyDcrI

>> No.8226507

>>8226314
why are you getting defensive? last time I checked nobody here takes twitch seriously

>> No.8226593

>>8226507
Anon, they're being offensive, not defensive. And you're an idiot.

>> No.8226613

>>8226507
/vt/ - Serious Discussions About Serious Girls Pretending To Be Anime

>> No.8226691

>>8188936
Kiara isn't actually a bird.

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>>8226691
Lies, you don't have any proof that Kiara doesn't feed her children by vomiting in their mouths.

>> No.8226947

>>8226103
>Why do people like something I don’t? Are they just pretending?

>> No.8226967

>>8226103
It's because people are paid to post here (source: I am paid to do this)

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>>8188057
She's an incredible singer, can do a nice show and is the greatest weeb among all VShojos.
Show Mousie some love.

>> No.8228709

>>8188727
guilty kek

>> No.8231602

>>8209839
what the fuck does she have to do to convince you that she's legitimately sick?

>> No.8231682

>>8226103
News flash. Vshojo exists. Some people like it. Some people enjoy Nyanners, Ironmouse, and Melody. I know. Big surprise. People have different tastes.

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