/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Are they actually religious or are they mocking it?

>>802270
What's the appeal?

>>802270
She is very blessed.

>>802270
Abi stated that her avatar is pretty much based on herself, including the "blessed" chest.

>>802319
I am still wondering with Abigail but she's been keeping up this act for a while now for it to be a facade. She seems legit, but doesn't really do any preaching or proselytizing. Just seems like a really seriously seiso streamer who plays wholesome games and talks about wholesome topics. Then there's things like this:

https://www.twitch.tv/prayersfromabigail/clip/BlushingFitToadEleGiggle

She's obviously being a goof, but, you just kind of wonder. Also, I'm not sure about the people she collabs with.

>>802320
Very relaxed and cozy and engages her chat regularly. If she's a Christian (Lutheran I think) she's doing a very good job of being one without being an annoying one. "Living by example" rather than trying to convert people, I suppose.

>>802270
First thing I thought of when I saw her design.

>>802732
So like an unironic, actually Christian person that isn't preachy or obnoxious about it huh? Kinda neat actually

>>802831
She's great, but her chat (well, one "Hayabusa") likes to start up shit like, he was sperging out the other night real bad when Abi said she'd very rarely had wine.

Abi's great.

Christ, Christ-chan got chubby.

remember to have faith and work hard, guys https://files.catbox.moe/tjql2c.mp4

Maybe this is a long con for her eventual lewdtuber transformation and the corruption guys will beat off furiously

>>802732
She actually talked about her tits? When? She doesn't seem the type. Frankly I think her model wearing such a tight shirt is a big hypocritical.

>>802270
Is she a new testamentfag or the based Old Testament?

>>802732
her twitter is both cringe and wholesome https://twitter.com/prayersfromabi/media

lewds of her when

>>803344
Frankly you are autistic

>>803492
Frankly, your punctuation is shit and the American education system has failed you.

>>803670
thanks for proving my point, autismo

>>803415
Seems like a new testament. She also played the Wolfenstein Noahs Ark game on stream.

>>802270
That attire is pretty common for classical Christian girl, look up Sound Of Music.

>>803724
You're welcome, tourist.

>>803784
SEETHE

>>803851
COPE

>>803877
DILATE

>>803784
>>803851
>>803877
>>803887
Quality discussion here

>>803887
YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN

>>803851
>>803877
>>803887
We are so blessed to receive the holy trinity in this hallowed thread today.

>>803935
Amen.

>>803462
No handholding on the first date, anon!
Maybe a firm handshake!

>>803462
There's no goddamn way someone hasn't drawn lewds of Abi by now.

>>803344
It is on her avatar design page which I don't have so I can't share it. As for the legitimacy of her "Christian" streaming, I want to believe that she's on the up and up then I see things like pic related, and how in her About on Twitch she talks about eliminating weeb degeneracy and I think "no, this is a fucking put on, isn't it?". I'm too cynical in my old age I guess. Her streams are absolutely wholesome tho, there's no denying that. It isn't like she has little "oopsie"s that reveal her true nature or intentional "slip ups" that reveal a joke in progress. She sticks to it, which is what fucks with me the most.

>>804061
Where the fuck is my demonic corruption doujin?!

>>802270
I found out about her a few days ago, and she's great. Love the bible sessions and sermons, though the just chatting can get a little dull.

>>804110
She was probably raised christian and still has fondness for it.

>>804162
>>804110
She isn't Christian; she's Lutheran. Some differences are minor, some are major. She's also a missionary (or was) and is largely independent from her church, having once been a private youth minister.

>>804204
>She isn't Christian; she's Lutheran
That's like saying "[blank] isn't a car, it's a convertable."

>>804162
Maybe. I mean, if she's going to "practice what she preaches" in living as a seiso human bean then that's perfectly fine and she's not obnoxious about it. It isn't like she's not a weeb herself; she sings anime songs and whatnot. So, you're probably right that she's just genuine in her love for Christianity and wants to be a good person. But she does fancy herself as a "Christian" vtuber which feels like a gimmick. I dunno. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it and I do find her entertaining in a weird way. Also both Nyanners and Ironmouse like her and have raided before and both make sure their chats behave themselves before they do. It's just kind of funny to me, I guess.

>>804204
>She's not Christian, she's Lutheran
Lol just what we need another charismatic

>>804123
Make it spicier, Demonic purification doujin

>>804240
Well, anon is right that Lutheranism has it's own tenets, but all sects of Christianity do. Most people associate Christianity with Modern Evangelical Protestantism when in reality Christianity encompasses everything related to Jesus the Christ as the savior / prophet / or God Himself. Lutheranism is an offshoot primarily of Catholicism and started the Protestant movement, and as such has it's own interpretations.

>>804358
One of those salty catholics who think all branches of the church are illegitimate?

itt: nonchristians or nonpracticing degenerates on a degenerate anime waifu board judging actual christian for not being christian enough???

>>804382
Every denomination thinks their particular understanding of scripture is the right one and everyone else is going to Hell. Abi is just more polite about it.

>>804499
It really depends on what sect, nd even within a sect which congregration you're talking about.

>>804482
Its less judgement and more trying to figure out what is and isn't kayfabe

>>804523
Westboro Baptist.

>>804611
why does it matter tho? vtubers aren't your friends

>>804382
I'm agnostic, so don't ask me. I don't judge people's beliefs or religion, just who they are as people, and so far Abigail seems like a good person having fun streaming so, yeah.

>>804691
Not him, but for me I think it comes down to uniqueness and, as odd as this might sound, respect. Like, Twitch is loaded with degenerates and lowlifes, many out for just the allmighty dollar or just to be influencing / famous jugheads. It seems a weird place for an actual Christian to plop themselves down among, even tho that would be the most missionary thing to do. So, if she is legit, then she is an oasis in a sea of suck and that would carry something with me. Even if I'm an agnostic, it would be kind of nice to have something real in all that posturing and fakeness.

I
NEED
ABI
LEWDS

>>805807
I'm waiting for her to grow bigger here so that some anon can start pumping them out

Her deal seems pretty obvious, but from my understanding, she's just a legitimate Christian girl having fun with religious themes.

She talked about her design in a stream not too long ago and mentioned that she and the person who did her art worked on the color scheme together.
I don't think she's christ-chan, I think it's a coincidence
It's weird people are still discussing this when it seems clear in her streams

>>802732
>"Living by example" rather than trying to convert people
As much as it's talked down on, preaching the Gospel is a tenant of the religion, instructed to all followers of Christ. I'd implore all believers to be upfront about their faith and bold. Parents as well MUST raise their children as Christian and teach them that it's their own faith and not their parents to be handed down. You'd be a fool to allow your child to "figure it out on their own" and go to Hell.

>>811829
I actually agree with you, but there are many ways to teach someone else your ways and thus coax them into following your faith than just preaching. Living by example, being an actual good person, people see that and they start to wonder why. What is it about this person that makes them so content and happy? Why am I not like them? How can I find that peace? If they are brave, they will ask the question, and when that question comes, then you can teach them the ways.

I understand the tenet. I understand, also, that many people who do preach come from a good place. They want to save your immortal soul, or to help you achieve everlasting life in God's kingdom, but the nature of free will is always a question that even the faithful must endure. Inevitably people have to choose Christ.

Do the Bible forbid nun being a vtuber ?

>>803415
Every Chrstian follows (or should) follow the New Testament first. The Old Testament is in there largely for context.

>>811829
Living by example is not really incompatible with what you say. Also you need to be careful how you teach a child about Christ. I bet you more than 50% of crazy SJW came from parents who were too strict with religion and ended up pushing their children away in the process.

>>802319
I've been in her discord from around the time it was first announced, and she seems to be a legit christian. She's all about praying for people's problems and there's legit bible discussion that goes on sometimes. I feel bad for not hanging out there often after her debut, but discord servers seem to drop off my radar once there's more than 5 people active.

>>812833
She's not a nun, and also, no i don think the bible is against a women portraying an anime avatar.

>>802270
Built of NTR

>>813295
This was what happened with me and a lot of my old friends. Our christian upbringing was a bit too strict to the point where we were either treated as too stupid or we were taught to shun people who didn't believe, to avoid people who weren't like us. Granted it was a whole lot less toxic as say, Jehovah's and its derivatives, in the end though a lot of us chose to exit the faith half-heartedly. The irony is that 4chan taught me more about accepting people who are different than me than my christian parents.

>>803283
Blessed

>>804110
Is this the reference sheet?

>>813336
Unless she becomes famous and becomes a (false) idol.

>>814533
Yep that's it! See on the right where it mentions "bust size"?

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>>802270
the list of /ourgirls/ keeps getting expanding
Koopa
Abi
Carol

>>816091
Who's Carol?

>>814533
>NO PANTS!
Based

>>814533
Not sure if that reference sheet is legit. She did an interview with Toki Talk (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/907869263)), and there was a point in that video where she mentioned her age. It was a bit hard to tell because they were talking over each other, but I'm pretty sure she said she's 28, as opposed to that reference sheet which says she's 22.

>>818294
Her "About" page on Twitch says she's 22, too. Maybe her avatar is 22 but she's 28?

>>818294
I heard 22, but I get why you misheard. I really doubt she's 28
If she's older than her avatar, there's no way she's past 24. I thought she might have been underage b& for a while

>>818005
It's in the least sexual way possible. She even wears bloomers for Christ's sake.

>>802270
I think it's just a coincidence.

>>804259
As much as I hate admitting this being a catholic , this anon is right. Christianism encompasses all religions that have Christ as their savior and son/physical representation of God. This means Lutherans, puritans, protestants, evangelicals, Baptists and even Jehovah witnesses are considered Christian religions even though us Catholics should be the only ones, I'll never forgive Germany

>>816691
Are you sure you want to know?

>>813118
The new testament is why modern christians are cucks.

>the part with Jesus Christ in it is why modern Christians are cucks
some of the posts on this site are truly unbelievable

let me know when she converts to Catholicism

>>822112
Personally, I only support pre-Jesus Christians. He was a cuck who said to be nice to people or some shit. Gross.

>>822716
>pre-Jesus Christians
Imagine supporting Jews

I just want to say that she's incredibly cute and a very nice girl.
That is all.

Aren't most 4chan users who have been here long enough Christian? Why are you doubting a vtuber would be Christian. Also her model is atrocious and her voice sucks.

>>826406
>Also her model is atrocious and her voice sucks.
I personally love it, but to each their own I guess.

How many babies does she want?

>>827666
Funnily enough, she actually mentioned in her interview with Toki Talk that her vows as a sister aren't for life and that many nuns and sisters choose not to take vows for life in case they "feel called to be a mother." So I guess she's open to having children once her vows end, and I suppose she'd answer your question, "As many as God calls me to have."

>>802270
Get her on lewdcast with Mousey and Melody for the lolz

>>816091
finishing the job that hiroshimoot didn't

>>826406
>Aren't most 4chan users who have been here long enough Christian?
why would you think that?

>>826406
>her model is atrocious
Your opinion is objectively wrong.

>twitter
I have to stop myself from concerning

>>820055
There is Eastern Orthodoxy, so you wouldn't be alone, Germans or not.

>>835004
Why? It's the reason she's popular. Knowing hwo to work a community is important.

>>830826
Most users on 4chan usually end up becoming Orthodox or tradcath or something after staying around long enough, judging by other boards and diaspora communities on twitter/discord/etc.

>>804110
Are these chuubas? Who's that gory one?

>>836495
I'm curious if this sticks. Most 4chan converts seem very politically motivated to me and are coming out of a particularly mean spirited, judgemental mindset. Seems like it would be pretty easy to lapse back into whatever hedonist godlessness they're used to unless they get really involved in their local church. And given the average social skills we're dealing with here, that doesn't seem very likely either.

>>837241
Everyone says this but people grow up and it's hard to stay a nihilistic hedonist the rest of your life. I attended an OCA parish before the pandemic and all the attendees under 30 were 4chan/twitter Internert racist types. No obvious stumbling blocks.

>>837241
You can never really pin down the path people take. I personally went from a cult-style Charismatic upbringing to cringey teenage fedora to vaguely gnostic as an adult. There will probably be lots of people who converted for dumb /pol/ reasons but end up genuinely better people for it.

>>836495
Maybe if you’re a /pol/ack

>>837658
I know most the users here are under 18 but most people become more religious as they get older, not just /pol/. And this includes people who become crazy SJWs or other psuedo-religions.

>>837756
Eh, I've always generally felt quite agnostic, scripture just doesn't move me in the way it seems to work on some people. I've only ever really been to church because my mum is quite involved and I end up as her plus one in my very sad life.
I do enjoy the history of churches and cathedrals tho.

>>838764
>just doesn't move me in the way it seems to work on some people
Feeling "moved" by text of a religion you don't believe in is schizo shit. People need to read more metaphysics and choose the religious philosophy that makes the most sense (Orthodox Christianity)

>>839617
That's crazy talk. I can be moved by another religion's texts like I can be moved by poetry or fiction.
There are some awfully moving passages in the Pali Canon, for instance.

>>840287
>There are some awfully moving passages in the Pali Canon, for instance.
In translation? Lol

>>840319
Unless you can read Sanskrit you can fuck off

>>840359
I hope you're trolling anon... You do know what language the PALI canon is written in, right?

>>840319
>EOPs can't appreciate the Bible in the original Aramaic/Greek/Hebrew

>>840415
No I'm not the guy who claimed it was beautiful. I just assumed and don't know shit about buddhism.
My point stands you dickhead. You probably can't read greek and think the bible is the shit.

>>840479
You only need Greek if you use the septuagint. It's probably worth it since you get the writings of the ancient philosophers and eastern church fathers as a bonus. Plus Homer, Herodotus, etc.

>>802270
It's almost a given that any Abigail thread will immediately turn into a religion debate thread. That said, I do enjoy Abigail but it took a while before I got used to her voice.

>>840513
That's a much bigger project than you might think. Greek has changed less than English but it's still pretty different. Learning modern Greek will let you mostly read Koine, not much of Attic, and nearly none of Homer.
Allegedly, I can't read Greek. This is just what I've heard.

>>840498
I mean I'm Christian and even I know tje Greek in the Bible is kind of shitty, which makes sense because it was written for a general audience by people who spoke it as a second language. The point was more that the Pali canon was translated so much later by so fewer people, in a much more distant language, that any appreciation you'll have for the writing is more the translator's work. This brings me back to my original point that you should judge a religion by its metaphysocal philosophy rather than how fancy the writings in its books are.

>>840602
A single translation from one language to another is bound to be much closer than generations of translations from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to King James English to modern English, not even getting into the errors made by monks

>>840791
You realize there are hundreds of Bible translations that you can compare instantly, right? And most of them come from the Greek?
Also
>King James English to modern English
Do you need Shakespeare translated for you too? kek

>>840894
>Do you need Shakespeare translated for you too?
Dude, there are translations that are newer than the King James Version, made because some people find the King James Version unreadable. These translations exist whether you think they're necessary or not.
In any case I don't understand how a ton of translations all coming from a Greek source is much different from one translation from a Pali source.

>>840528
It's a little unfortunate, since she embodies the "lead by example" philosophy much more than the combative war philosophy.

Will she do a dorime cover?

>>841037
>In any case I don't understand how a ton of translations all coming from a Greek source is much different from one translation from a Pali source.
Because you're not relying on one single source obviously. Are you this dense?

>>841302
>a Greek source
>a Pali source

>>841337
Okay let me put it this way: Which is more reliable; me clipfagging your oshii saying she had sex with 5 men behind an alley in Mumbai or 200 anons here all translating that clip?

>>841391
I suppose it's fair enough that Buddhist texts could never be translated into English as many times as the Bible has, but I think you've gotten quite a ways from the original point here, which had nothing to do with Buddhism. We could go with texts like the Iliad instead if you prefer.

>>820995
>hatless Carol
this is heavily cursed

>>822637
This.

abi live
https://www.twitch.tv/prayersfromabigail

>>830704
She's actually said she'd like to collaborate with the ladies of vshojo, but on her own terms, where she can try to prevent them from being lewd.

>>845364
Good hecking luck lol

>>845270
>streaming on the sabbath

>>841255
this

I can't hold on any longer, Abi will be the first vtuber I member to.

>>845382
She could make it like a "try not to be lewd challenge," and punish them whenever they say something lewd. It could be something as simple as muting them and putting a picture of a muzzle over their avatars. Hell, they'd probably enjoy that.

>>845468
>Hell, they'd probably enjoy that.
Now I'm imagining art of her putting them in a chastity belts, and I'm uncomfortably aroused by that thought

>>845730
Naughty anon, you're gonna get thwacked by a ruler on the butt for that

I continue to believe that Abi is actually just Ironmouse. Have we ever seen the two of them together at the same time? They sound quite similar.

>>845801
You got it backwards if you're trying to get me going

>>826406
>Aren't most 4chan users who have been here long enough Christian?
It's less that 4chan users become Christian over time, and more that over time, being a Christian has become a contrarian lifestyle, so Christians are less unwelcome here than other places.
>her model is atrocious
You need to get your eyes checked, son. But I can see why you might not like her voice, it's the most affected part of her whole schtick.

>>842679
its blessed

>>845408
Christians aren't required to observe the sabbath. The Bible literally says so.

>>846048
Ironmouse is pretty mainstream. I don't think Abbey would be as bummed about her level of exposure as a streamer if she was already successful in another persona.

>>846048
>Abi is actually just Ironmouse
Now this is a rrat. Abby's voice is kinda South-Parkish, but that's just because she's not a great voice actor. Other than that, there are basically no similarities between them at all.

>>845450
I donated today. I hope this isn't the start of something.

>>846854
Is she your first indie?

>>847387
Not technically, but first donation. I can see how people fall down rabbit holes.

Amish Vtuber when?

>Princess Tutu
Nothing secret about it, Abi is based.

AHHHH she's so wholesome it's painful

I love her so fucking much bros

>>847455
Man I'm swearing away from superchats. Most I'll do is a membership. You gotta keep yourself distanced for sure though with these indies. Just look at all the ones watching Koopa

>>846048
>mfw i see the rrat i posted in the iceberg thread getting circulated

>>848041
>wholesome cute GF who's good with kids and used to work in a daycare never ever

>>802270
Christian and good taste in music? Subscribed immediately.

She keeps getting better the longer you listen to her stream.

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