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How can a new "Gura killer" be declared every month and yet you guys still fail to realize it's just a way to sic rabid Chumbuds on vtubers people don't like?

>> No.7943612

>>7943424
I’m a chumbud, but I like both of them regardless. I’m sure they will stream together and destroy Niji EN.

>> No.7943841

>How long do you realize it's just the same 5 or so shitposters trying to manufacture drama and controversy out of boredom
Fixed it for ya, OP

>> No.7943891

Rat girl is competing against Niji, not Gura.

>> No.7943973

>>7943424
As a chumbud, I'm happy for more cunny

>> No.7944076

>>7943973
Are you sure she’s cunny? I don’t think so.

>> No.7944139

>>7943424
>on vtubers people don't like?
How can people not like her already? It's literally just a silhouette.

>> No.7944306

>>7944139
/vt/ likes vtubers in the same way that /v/ likes video games. In that they don't.

>> No.7944371

>>7943424
I'm wondering if these are actually going to be alt costumes for EN

>> No.7944442

>>7944139
>How can people not like her already?
I think he’s referring to Petra Gurin, who got trashed by chumbuds. The difference here though, is both Gura and this Chaos girl, are both Holo EN. So probably means less infighting because Holo fans are just happy to have more to choose from. Especially since they be getting disgusted by the recent Niji gloating over numbers.

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>>7943424
They're all Nijisanji rejects so why should I care. Hey atleast she's Cunny though. That's a plus.

>> No.7944505

>>7943424
A
LITERAL
RRAT

>> No.7944615

>>7944442
>I think he’s referring to Petra Gurin, who got trashed by chumbuds

Just chumbuds? You mean everyone who isn't a simp for the Chinese government trashed her

NijiCN is a joke

>> No.7944730

>>7944615
>Just chumbuds?
Not just them, but it does play a role. Probably what OP was getting at.

>> No.7944737

This is your typical threadreader and dramafag. >>7944615

>> No.7944806

>>7943424
MUH CHUMBUD BOOGYMAN

>> No.7944956

>>7944730
All factions can hate Petra Gurin equally

>> No.7945005

>>7943424
You can't kill gura without being stronger than a drunk 9xxx year old dwarf who got kicked out of Atlantis for accidentally mass destruction of public property. We don't even know if EN2 will be remotely entertaining. After the Irys debacle, nobody has any faith in Cover's ability to scout en talent.

>> No.7945103

>>7945005
>We don't even know if EN2 will be remotely entertaining
They likely got top talent for it, given the popularity of the first Gen, so I imagine it will be entertaining for a lot of people. Especially with five to choose from.

>> No.7945194

>>7943424
Gura is the Gura killer
Holo EN is the Holo EN killer
Blizzard is the Blizzard killer
Hololive is the Hololive killer

>> No.7945198

>>7944615
>Chinese government
She tweeted about Hongkong independence publicly and risked herself being killed pooh death squad while you only talk shit about pooh regime in 4chan in safety of your mother basement deep inside rural America.

>> No.7945243

>>7945198
Can you stop worshiping China?

>> No.7945260

>>7944442
>Trashed by chumbuds
Bruh people actually fall for this false flag shit this easy?

>> No.7945305

>>7943424
That can't be a Gura killer if it's not loli. It has to be loli for it to have any chances at all. Chumbuds are just going to ignore every vtuber that's not a loli

>> No.7945317

>>7945243
Is this new gaslight tactic by ChinkCP?

>> No.7945491

>>7945317
Well maybe if you apologized to China like Petra Gurin did, you can prove how pro-Hong Kong independence you really are.

>> No.7945552

>>7945491
Coco apologized to China too. Everyone who doesn't want to get harassed like she did would.

>> No.7945554

>>7944442
She is a seisofag who HATES all NSFW to the point she had to beg the management for her NSFW tag to be removed. Most people tend to have natural aversion to no-fun moralfag puritans. That's especially noticeable if you're Nijifag or a Vshojofag.

>> No.7945606

>>7945491
Unlike you who never get out from your mother basement, that girl probably have family in China. Talk to me when you actually participate in Hong Kong revolt.

>> No.7945650

>>7945103
Thats not how it works.
The more popular it gets the more leeches will try to join for a free ride to success.

Look at gen5. Arguably performing worse than both gen 1 and 4 while definitely performing worse than gen3.

This is not exclusive to Hololive. Most of the big tech companies now are made up of frat dudes looking to make big money. The nerds with a passion for computing have been pushed out.

>> No.7945667

>>7945554
No she is not, retard. By your logic, Lulu and Claire hate NSFW work too, but look at them. She is just embarrassed by it.

>> No.7945706

>>7943424
It's just falseflaggers anonchama, you need to realise that.

>> No.7945738

>>7943424
>Gura killer
This is actually just how insecure chumcucks see others, there are no "Gura Killer" vtubers, as Gura herself does absolutely nothing to make her noteworthy, its all numbers.

>> No.7945741

>>7945552
Stop worshiping China?

>> No.7945752

>>7945667
Dude she specifically said it herself she doesn't like it, so that's why she had to remove her NSFW tag. Lulu and Claire never did any of that shit.

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>>7943424
RRAT

>> No.7945797

>>7945554
>She is a seisofag who HATES all NSFW to the point she had to beg the management for her NSFW tag to be removed
This is your brain on rrats, holy shit. She made her own NSFW tag. She later stated she wasn't sure about it and didn't want to see that sort of thing (personally) so she opted against having the tag. Management never had to get involved, it's a fucking Twitter tag. She has never once derided NSFW content others enjoy and is friends with Finana, an open coomer and lolicon.
Go shit on Suisei, she actively states she doesn't want any porn of her, which is more than you can say for Petra. Petra just doesn't want it in a space where she can easily see it.

>> No.7945852

>>7945554
>Most people tend to have natural aversion to no-fun moralfag puritans.
But we have lots of those here. They call every sexy woman a whore.

>> No.7945970

>>7945650
>Look at gen5 JP
This is Gen 2 EN. When we get to Gen 5 EN, will talk. You will see that gen 2 will consist of very talented people trying to get in because of Gen 1.

>> No.7945984

>>7945852
There is a difference between calling someone an unfunny whore for their tiktok jokes to fill the dead air, and a moralfag puritan

>> No.7946075

>>7945984
Any VTuber that dresses sexy will be called a whore by puritans.

>> No.7946076

>>7945984
If you mention sex you're a whore, if you aren't personally interested in porn you're a puritan, you should realize that these are extreme reactions to inane statements.

>> No.7946125

>>7945797
nigga, you're the one makin the rrats here
never was it mentioned that she derided nsfw content others enjoy, she ain't a nyanners

>> No.7946249

>>7946125
>never was it mentioned that she derided nsfw content others enjoy
It was certainly implied with
>who HATES all NSFW

>> No.7946262

>>7946076
Puritans are defined by their use overuse of the word “whore”

>> No.7946418

>>7946262
Didn't know there were so many puritans on /vt/ then. I swear I have seen the most abstract, illogical, vague definitions if the word on this site (seriously, how does not streaming for a while logically correlate to Prostitute, like the fuck?). It's hilarious

>> No.7946445

>>7946249
>>7945797
Was there ever a single instance she liked others' NSFW content?
As far as everyone knows, she dislikes all of them

>> No.7946525

>>7946262
>>7946418
Stop making retarded rrats. Even whores call other whores, whores.

>> No.7946546

>>7946445
Because she isn't interested in nsfw you faggot. It doesn't mean she hates it like you're deadset on portraying it. I assume you aren't interested in men either but I should hope for your sake you don't hate them.

>> No.7946800

>>7946546
If you aren't interested in men then it would be obvious you dislike them?? Wtf are you on about then.
Of course she dislikes them but she's not anal about it. And I don't care. I don't watch her so I don't care what's she's into or not.

>> No.7946853

>>7945984
there really a difference that isnt arbitrary anon especially when most anons who call girls whores do it for literally any reason they feel like.
also you fed yourself of 2nd hand hearsay and rrats about what happened, when the fuck did she say that people cant make porn of her, link your sources fag
also the tag isnt deleted, its twitter tags dont get deleted, they just dont go used and its just not official anymore.
>>7946076
whore has more bad connotations to it then puritan, puritan is the least offensive way to call someone who hates the idea of sex and wants to enforce that hate on others freedom of expression.
>>7946445
is there a single proof i like nsfw content anon?
as far as everyone knows, i dislike all of them.

just because we cant observe something doesnt mean it doesnt exist and then you take occums razor to it and its more likely she doesnt want to see lewds of herself then it is that she hates lewds all together.

>> No.7946885

Will any of the new tubers have actually unique and interesting content or will they just be five more Minecraft/Among Us channels?

>> No.7946910

>>7945970
We don't even need to wait till en5.
Just look at how much hololive and EnVtubing exploded since En1 auditions and En2.

You just need to look at Irys to see whats going to happen to En2. She's the best they could do when VSinger only had one spot.

>> No.7946933

>>7946800
>If you aren't interested in men then it would be obvious you dislike them
So, you ARE interested in men? Homo.
If you don't care or don't watch her don't spread narratives around her.

>> No.7946980

>>7943424
That's the point retard. We rile up the Chumbros, falseflag as them, and then blame them for being a toxic fanbase

>> No.7946992

>>7946933
It's not a narrative nigger, it's an obvious irrefutable fact. Disprove the claims that she doesn't hate all NSFW then.

>> No.7947049

>>7946910
>Irys
Just 1 person (no variety), and just a VSinger.
Like I said, Gen 5 and we can talk.

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>>7943424
>new "Gura killer"
You better not be l-laughing !

>> No.7947085

>>7946992
>Disprove the claims that she doesn't hate all NSFW then
She talks about Finana, who's most prominent trait is that she's a coomer, and Kenmochi, who's most prominent trait is that she's a lolicon, with glee. If she had such a burning hatred, why would she enjoy watching people who openly discuss it? Your narrative is moronic.

>> No.7947121

>>7946853
She specifically said it herself she doesn't like NSFW

>>7947085
No. We're talking about straight up NSFW content, not other relevant personalities.

>> No.7947124

>>7947085
>she's
*he's. While I'm correcting myself, I should also mention that she isn't super "seiso" like you claimed and she regularly swears on stream. All of your claims are exaggerated and retarded.

>> No.7947205

>>7946910
its going to be the same shit as before, i feel like most of the time streamers stick to doing the same shit over and over again because it works, holo especially since they're known to just ride the wave.
>>7946992
anon your making the claim she hates nsfw, we're countering your baseless claim because the burden of proof falls on you retard.
i cant just go up and say i fucked your mom and then say prove to me that i didnt fuck your mom because thats not how it fucking works

>> No.7947211

>>7947121
>We're talking about straight up NSFW content
Do you understand what you're saying? "She hates porn, it's totally irrelevant that she loves vtubers that love porn and discuss it on stream!" God you're retarded.

>> No.7947216

>>7947085
the vtuber and their nsfw content are two different things though?
for example, i hate nyanners but i love all the loli hentai that she gets

>> No.7947270

>>7947211
No you dumb nigger. Just because she dislikes NSFW does not make it that she hates people that are into them. You're making up stupid shit because you know you were wrong to begin with.

>> No.7947277

>>7947216
No shit, but if she had such an undying hatred for porn why would she watch content where others discuss it?
To use Nyanners as an example like you, there's a good fucking reason Nyanners has never mentioned being a fan of Matsuri.

>> No.7947344

>>7947205
It's not a claim retard, that's straight out of her. You should go actually watch her when she removed the tag or lurk more.

>> No.7947377

>>7943424
actually they are all hags

>> No.7947428

>>7947270
>You're making up stupid shit
Are you retarded? I'm telling you the truth. She's friends with Finana. She is a fan of Kenmochi. These are facts.
She is not personally interested in NSFW. This does not mean she hates it. You can not be interested in something without hating it. Do you hate every stranger you see on the street?
>>7947344
>that's straight out of her
Go ahead and link where she said she hates NSFW then. Really funny that you're saying this when you just said you don't watch her.

>> No.7947431

>>7947277
but nyanners is a different nut case
nyanners specifically hates the people who enjoy them, and yet she likes it herself

>> No.7947502

>>7947428
If she's not interested in NSFW then like your strangers in the street example, she would've just left them alone and just ignored it. But the facts are she openly said she doesn't like them so she had to remove them.

>> No.7947569

>>7947277
ima be honest anon i know what you mean but the flaw in the example is that nyanners has talked about pikamee
>>7947344
you stupid motherfucker, prove she said that instead of claiming she did, actual link to the clip you fucking faggot, you have to prove the claim of "she said it" and until you show proof its just hearsay.
are you fucking retarded or have you never had a proper convo with anyone before?

>> No.7947656

>>7947569
>actual link to the clip
I don't watch clipniggers. Go look it up yourself, it was around the time when she removed the tag. Also lurk more because it's in the archives too you nigger. And I'm not wasting half an hour looking for it just for you.

>> No.7947657

>>7947502
>If she's not interested in NSFW then like your strangers in the street example, she would've just left them alone and just ignored it
That's exactly why she removed the tag, so she could ignore it. Ever heard of out of sight, out of mind? If she had her NSFW tag in her description, she'd obviously get tempted to click it once in a while. If she really hated it and wished to stop all NSFW content being made of her outright, she'd have just said it like Suisei.
>But the facts are she openly said she doesn't like them
Link a timestamp where she said this or shut the fuck up.

>> No.7947665

>>7943973
She doesn't even look cunny. She just looks pettan. Is Suisei cunny to you?

>> No.7947730

>>7947656
>I don't watch clipniggers
You just said you don't watch her you dumb fuck, a clipnigger knows more than you.
>>7947569
Most people don't even know Pikamee is a lolicon, /vt/ just exaggerated it to the point where it became a meme.

>> No.7947853

>>7947657
Hey, just because she dislikes NSFW content does not mean she's anal about it and want to be a dick to artists. The NSFW tag is just a tag, but she made a statement when she removed it. No one can stop people from making Rule 34 of her, but she specifically removed the tag herself.

>>7947730
This was discussed in the NijiEN threads some time back then. You should lurk more instead of begging clips out of me

>> No.7947861

>>7947502
anon you keep changing you claim back and forth from "she hates all nsfw" to "she hates nsfw".
>>7947656
ah no wonder, all your info is hearsay, why the fuck are you listening to fucking rrats without any media literacy.
your media literacy skills non-existent, youll just believe whatever your told without actually doubt checking or sourcing things.
your just a sheep who just likes to listen to things that conform to your views. literally the worst kind of rrat consumer.

>> No.7947928

>>7947861
That's literally synonymous you dumb nigger. If a puritan boomer hates NSFW, that means they hate all of them, but that does not mean that they HAVE TO openly trash on their co-workers who likes them.

>> No.7947985

>>7947853
>but she made a statement when she removed it
No, she didn't. Whatever schizophrenic double meaning you attribute to her not being interested in porn of herself means nothing. Artists will still draw porn of her despite this, just like they draw porn of Suisei.
>This was discussed in the NijiEN threads some time back then
What some /vt/ niggers say means fuck all, I actually watch her streams, and we both know why you aren't providing proof of your claims right now. Kill yourself.

>> No.7948007

>>7947861
If you're not gonna do your own research then that's on you, you're the one with interest, not me. You're throwing stones in glass houses. I don't care about the penguin and I'm not bothering saving anything about her.

>> No.7948090

>>7948007
>If you're not gonna do your own research
Your "research" is what shitposting anons on an anomymous imageboard say. You don't watch her streams. You don't watch clips. You have no proof of your claims whatsoever, because they didn't happen. You are a mongoloid.

>> No.7948177

>>7947985
>>7948090
Nigger, she talked about removing the tag in her earlier streams. If she didn't then that wouldn't have been talked about in here. I'm not the one interested in her, YOU do your own research and find the stream either archives or clipniggers. The facts are, she removed them because she dislikes them.

>> No.7948243

>>7943424
But she's not a niji so she can't be a gura killer

>> No.7948269

>>7948177
>Nigger, she talked about removing the tag in her earlier streams
This is true.
>>7947502
>she openly said she doesn't like them
This is what you claimed, which is not true. Get your fucking story straight and stop making baseless claims about vtubers you don't watch.

>> No.7948318

>>7945650
Cover would have their absolute uncontested pick of talents after the success of EN1, if they end up picking duds that's on them, not on the applicants

>> No.7948349

>>7948269
>>7948177
nta but no reason to remove the tag apart from disliking them and she could just had ignored it like what he said? what was the reason it was removed?

>> No.7948446

>>7948269
Baseless claim? She made a statement she doesn't like them. There's no other reason for the tag to be removed.

>> No.7948447

>>7948349
She isn't interested in NSFW of herself. It very likely makes her uncomfortable seeing herself be sexualized. So she removed a way in which she could easily stumble across it. That's it. She has never said she hates NSFW or even dislikes it. You will not find clips of this, because it was not said. She is not a puritan that hates all form of porn. If she was she wouldn't hang around such blatantly sexual people. She would not play otome games with blatant sexual undertones.

>> No.7948515

>>7948446
So you went from "she openly said" to "she made a statement" which essentially boils down to your headcanon. She doesn't want to see porn of herself. She is not interested in it. So she removed the tag where she could most easily see porn of herself. Anything else you get from this is pure headcanon and nothing she said outright.

>> No.7948522

>>7948447
but she never said any of that? i think you're the hypocrite making rrats here
where is the clip of her saying she hates sexualization?
what the other anon said is that she doesn't like nsfw tag so she removed them

>> No.7948554

>>7948515
>>7948447
It's not headcannon when it's facts. Find me a single instance she entertained NSFW content outside of herself. You wouldn't find it nigger.

>> No.7948590

>>7948522
I never claimed she said any of that.
>but no reason to remove the tag apart from disliking them
I was refuting this. There is plenty of reasons she could have removed the tag other than her disliking NSFW. All she did was remove a fucking tag.

>> No.7948612

88 replies / 27 Posters
have fun with your fake dramas
/vt/ was a mistake

>> No.7948631

>>7948590
well if she never said any of that when why are you imposing that she did mention about sexualization and shit? you're making this look a lot worse than it should be
you're trying to portray petra as an SJW

>> No.7948707

>>7948554
>It's not headcannon when it's facts
She has never stated she dislikes or hates NSFW. The fact that she does not discuss NSFW or like it on Twitter does not change this. You are drawing the conclusion that since she does not discuss or "entertain" NSFW she hates it, which is illogical.

>> No.7948746

>>7948007
>>7948177
>The facts are
WHAT FUCKING FACTS ANON, YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD.
this is not how a debate fucking works anon, if you make a claim you fucking source your shit, i shouldnt have to source YOUR fucking claims, im not making the claim, YOU are.
your rrats are based on literally nothing so stop fucking claiming shit that you have 0 proof or info on.
how the fuck do you even form opinions when all you've read was "she decided to not have a nsfw tag".
did you know most nijis don't have fucking nsfw tags but still enjoy their lewds?

>>7948349
thats a fair point anon but the other anon is only going off of what he heard on 4chan and claiming she hates all nsfw.
but a better question to ask would be why would she even make one to begin with if she hates nsfw, why not just skip making a nsfw tag.
plus most nijis dont make a nsfw tag for a good while but they still interact with lewds or hint at them doing so.

>>7948612
its not even fake drama, its a fucked debate where the rratman is making claims and then when hes called out he just says "i-i dont have to prove it"

>> No.7948781

>>7948631
God man, I'm arguing against a guy who said she was a super seiso prude. I'm just giving you possible reasons that she could've removed the tag other than the extreme conclusion that she HATES all porn. The truth is she's never discussed this in depth. Anything gleamed from this is pure headcanon, but she talks to openly sexual people and likes sexual people, so there is ample reason to believe she is not some nun-type that hates all NSFW.

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This thread is fucking shit. Fuck this constant "Gura Killer" Bullshit, just make a Petra thread if you're so passionate about it.

And fuck you especially OP. This is a thigh thread now

>> No.7948822

>>7948707
>>7948746
You're the one making claims that she dislikes NSFW of herself but doesn't dislike all NSFW, and all I'm asking for is proof of it. All we know is that she hates all NSFWs because it was up to the point she even had to remove them tags. You were going on weird tangents about sexualisation, which is completely irrelevant to the topic and not even once it was mentioned about that. If she actually did like NSFW outside of herself then you would have proofs? There is already a proof of her shitting on NSFW which is when she removed the tag. The onus is on you.

>> No.7948841

>>7945650
Hey fuck you, NePoLaBo is great despite not being as big as the other gens

>> No.7948901

>>7948822
Never claimed that, sexualization tangent was just giving possible reasons she could dislike NSFW, all she did was remove a tag, this does not mean she hates all NSFW, that's pure headcanon unless you can prove it.
Post evidence she hates NSFW or stop replying. /vt/ schizos like (you) are not evidence. Not liking porn on Twitter does not means she hates porn. That is another headcanon you're trying to spin as fact.

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>Gura killer this
>Gura killer that
This isn't possible at all. And you've failed this time and time again.
But what about a Mori Killer?
I'm sure it's easy to beat that dumb 5% wigger brapper in her own game. She doesn't even care about hololive. Where are they?

>> No.7948930

>>7948901
>she could dislike NSFW
Great, you Bugs' Bunnied me. This conversation is tiring. I meant wasn't interested.

>> No.7948948

anyone using the china bad moral high ground already lost the argument so why bother replying

>> No.7948965

>>7948841
I don't care if NePoLaBo have 1 sub or 1 billion. They are number one in my heart

>> No.7948971

She looks like a brat

>> No.7949020

I want to rile people up against her so she gets shat on by randoms, finds out /vt/ is responsible, and have yet another holoEN that hates us, like we did with Mori and Kiara.

>> No.7949038

>>7948822
>You're the one making claims that she dislikes NSFW of herself but doesn't dislike all NSFW
were giving an possible explanation that isnt extreme, aka an opinion, were not claiming the extreme.
>All we know is that she hates all NSFWs because it was up to the point she even had to remove them tags
thats a claim anon, the only fact we actually know is she decided to not to have a fucking nsfw tag after originally having planned one.
>If she actually did like NSFW outside of herself then you would have proofs?
anon you started this, the onus is on you to prove your original claim with evidence, if you actually prove it then the onus would be transfered to us but you havent, you just keep saying its a fact without showing the fucking facts, thats not how a debate works.

>> No.7949073

Amazing: this one penguin removes a Twitter tag and makes schizos go crazy

>> No.7949088

>>7949020
I'm pretty damn sure that most of them wouldn't exactly have the highest opinion of the many tribalfags or schizos here by nature of...not being insane, so it ain't a high bar to cross.

>> No.7949096

>>7948901
>sexualization tangent was just giving possible reasons
Really we don't care about that stupid rrat you made.
>all she did was remove a tag, this does not mean she hates all NSFW
And yet your claims remain unsubstantiated when she did make a statement by removing the NSFW tag. You watch Petra so you should provide us with proofs to back yourself up. All we know is that by removing the tag, she made a statement she hates them because she wants to be a Seiso, not because of Sexualization and shit.

>> No.7949135

>>7949073
It's unironically twittertard level behavior, making a mountain out of a molehill. Unironically Horseshoe theory in action

>> No.7949138

>>7949073
who knows petra could be an SJW and the anon was right about her with
>muh sexualization n shiiet

>> No.7949153

>>7943841
>same 5 or so shitposters
tell me how I know you're kfp

>> No.7949205

>>7949096
Do you know what a "possible reason" is? It's not a narrative because I'm not portraying it as a truth. You're making a narrative because you're spinning her removing a NSFW tag as her making a statement about hating NSFW. I'm making no claims about Petra whatsoever. I'm simply telling you the truth, that logically, in this universe, there is more than one reason somebody could remove a tag. Are you going to deny that? Are you going to deny there is more than one reason a Twitter tag could be removed from a page?

>> No.7949207

>>7949038
But I already said that the proof is already out there? If a boomer said they hated NSFW, then that would implicate that they hate all of them and not just because they hate NSFW of themselves. It's just a simple logical conclusion.

>> No.7949255

>>7949207
>But I already said that the proof is already out there
It's not, which is why it hasn't been posted.
>If a boomer said they hated NSFW
Petra isn't a boomer and she never said she hated NSFW so this is irrelevant.

>> No.7949300

>>7949205
nigga do you even know what a rrat is? you are making claims she doesn't hate all nsfw because of this and that exception
>oh she doesn't actually hate all of them, she just hates a specific type of nsfw
which needs to be backed up

>> No.7949351

>>7949300
>nigga do you even know what a rrat is
Yes. A narrative. I'm not making any claims. I'm offering you possible explanations why she could've removed her NSFW tags which do not involve her hating NSFW. Logically, there is more than one reason somebody can remove the tag. But you are pushing the narrative that there is only one possible reason.

>> No.7949366

>>7949096
anon your a moron because almost all counter arguments youve made can be no u'd because youre the one asking us for proof of our possible explanation for her actions while your claiming that your rrat is fact.
we're only give our opinions on why she wouldve, you're stating that she hates all nsfw and that its a fact
>>7949207
maybe for a boomer but fucking petra is a zoomer, we already took that into account with our opinions and thats why we give her the benefit of the doubt that its that she just doesnt like herself being lewded.
>>7949300
BACK UP YOUR OWN SHIT FIRST YOU FUCKING FAGGOT, YOUVE LITERALLY GAVE NO PROOF, ONLY CLAIMS THAT ITS A FACT

>> No.7949372

>>7949255
It's already a well known fact she removed her NSFW tag for the reason she doesn't like them. What else would she be removing it for?

>> No.7949432

>>7949372
being uncomfortable with nsfw doesnt mean you fucking hate nsfw.
you could see porn in public and be uncomfortable with seeing it but that doesnt mean you hate porn

>> No.7949503

>>7949372
>It's already a well known fact she removed her NSFW tag for the reason she doesn't like them
It's not a fact. There are multiple possible reasons she could removed them. Maybe she didn't want to be viewed as a coomer. Maybe she's uncomfortable being openly lusted after in a way she can see it. Maybe she's worried about her co-workers viewing the tag. The narrative you are pushing that there is only one possible explanation is simply incorrect.

>> No.7949530

>>7949255
Petra wouldn't remove the NSFW tag if she never disliked NSFW, and just left it alone.

>>7949366
It's a logical conclusion, not a rrat. You remove NSFW tag = you have aversion to NSFW. It's not that hard to not be a retard.

>>7949432
Do you have any proofs to back yourself up then? IF she hated porn to be displayed in public then she would've said that herself. Or are you making up rrats like the guy who said stuff about sexualization?

>> No.7949585

>>7949530
>Petra wouldn't remove the NSFW tag if she never disliked NSFW
That's a headcanon with no basis behind it. There are multiple reasons tags can be removed. That is a fact. No matter how many times you repeat yourself it does not change the fact that Petra has never said she hates NSFW.

>> No.7949609

>>7949503
Yes, there are multiple specific reasons, and all of them are rrats. The natural logical conclusion is that she doesn't like them. You can interpret that as how you like, but that's a logical conclusion, a fact. All of them involve dislike one way or another.

>> No.7949618

>>7949530
>IF she hated porn to be displayed in public then she would've said that herself
And if she hated NSFW she would've said that too. The one making up narratives is you.

>> No.7949659

>>7949609
>Yes, there are multiple specific reasons, and all of them are rrats
All of them possible reasons. For it to be a narrative it would has to be pushed as a fact, like you're doing now, pushing one possible reason as fact.
>The natural logical conclusion is that she doesn't like them
It's one logical conclusion. There are multiple. But for now, it's just your headcanon. And no, all of the reasons do not involve dislike.

>> No.7949662

>>7949618
Even all of your narratives involve the notion of dislike. It's a generalized conclusion that she dislikes them. It doesn't matter what the specifics are, you were the one making specific rrats.

>> No.7949703

>>7949662
>Even all of your narratives involve the notion of dislike
They do not. The specifics do matter, as we are arguing over specifics. Providing potential reasons are not narratives as they are not being pushed as fact, like you are pushing a narrative as fact at the moment.

>> No.7949711

>>7949659
>>7949703
Dude, whether she DISLIKES NSFW in public or DISLIKES NSFW because of sexualization or DISLIKES NSFW because she's embarrassed by it. The fact is, she dislikes NSFW so she had to removed the tag.

>> No.7949742

Bro this thread is literally just two people having a debate now. Kinda wierd ngl

>> No.7949755

>>7949530
>Petra wouldn't remove the NSFW tag if she never disliked NSFW, and just left it alone.
anon then ask, WHY THE FUCK DID SHE EVEN PLAN ONE TO BEGIN WITH IF SHE HATED NSFW.
one explanation is she ended up not feeling comfortable with lewds of herself and decided to not encourage it.

>It's a logical conclusion
faggot your stating that your opinions are facts, if you didnt state them as fucking facts then it wouldnt be any different from what we've given as explanations
its only a rrat because you keep saying she hates all nsfw as if its a fact.

>IF she hated porn to be displayed in public then she would've said that herself.
anon i wasnt trying to equate it to her, i was giving an example of how being uncomfortable doesnt mean you hate something.

>> No.7949781

>>7949711
>DISLIKES NSFW because of sexualization or DISLIKES NSFW because she's embarrassed by it
Never said either of these things. Do you know you can be embarassed by something and still enjoy it? For example, plenty of people enjoy masturbation, but would be embarrassed to be seen doing it openly. Petra being embarrassed at the idea of a co-worker seeing a lewd image of herself does not mean she hates the idea of lewd images. And even in the "muh sexualization" scenario it's simply her avoidance of NSFW involving herself, not others.
To reiterate, these are not narratives, these are possibilities. And not all of them involve the dislike of NSFW. Your pushing of that is fact is inaccurate. There is no proof Petra hates NSFW content beyond your own headcanon.

>> No.7949792

>>7949742
correction 2 people vs 1 rratman

>> No.7949828
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I'm going to fuck Petra in the ass!

>> No.7949866

>>7949792
Potato, Tomato, but you've got a point.

>> No.7949872

>>7949828
UOOOOOHHHH HER PENGUNNY!

>> No.7949884

>>7949755
See >>7949755
You were the one trying to make weird exceptions that was never even mentioned, dude. All that was said there is that she disliked NSFW. Your rrats are simply your rrats, her reasons are her reasons.

>>7949781
Yes she never said any of those things, those were all of your rrats or "possible conclusions" as you would call it. Literally every single reason involving the removal of the tag involved in her having dislikes and personal preferences. This isn't like Hololive where the management told her off that she couldn't like NSFW content, it's simply just out of her own preferences and dislikes that she did remove it. In some way shape or form, she dislikes all NSFW for a very specific reason, but as you said those reasons are rrats and we will never know. But the bottom line is that she dislikes whatever is associated with that NSFW.

>> No.7949920

>>7949884
And by that I meant, that entails all NSFW content, unless if she specifically mentioned exceptions, which she didn't. She could go onto other Niji's NSFW and click the like button, but she doesn't do that. It's a natural conclusion.

>> No.7949997

>>7949884
No matter how many times you say possible explanations are narratives, they will not become them unless they are pushed as fact like you're doing with your headcanon that she dislikes NSFW. Were we talking about dislikes in general? I thought we were talking about the dislike of NSFW content, specifically.
I will not deny Petra dislikes certain things and has personal preferences. Everybody does. But we don't know she dislikes NSFW.
Again with the masturbation example, one can dislike being seen masturbating and enjoy masturbating. They're related, but not the same thing. Petra could enjoy NSFW art of herself, but dislike it being seen by those around her. Related, but decidedly different. And, if you did your reading reps for once, you would realize one of the possible scenarios (or rrats as you would call them) specifically involves her discomfort with NSFW content around her, not "all NSFW" as you put it.
>she dislikes all NSFW
This is a narrative. You can keep saying this until the cows come home, but there is no proof that Petra dislikes all NSFW content. Removing a tag is not proof. It will never be proof.

>> No.7950078

>>7949997
Yes, she dislikes all NSFW content provided there is a specific reason. There is no reason to nuke a tag just like that and completely avert herself from all NSFW content unless if she completely dislikes it herself. Certain boomers shit on all NSFW content all the time, but they regularly have sex with their wives. They have their own reasoning, and Petra has hers. The bottom line is that she dislikes NSFW for whatever reason.

Unless if you can provide us proofs that she has exceptions to her dislikes, it will remain that way.

>> No.7950091

>>7947377
hagfags cant stop winning

>> No.7950154

>>7949920
why assume she hates all nsfw when shes into fucking anime and joined nijisanji the vtubing company with big titty anime girls and lolis in swimsuits.
its more logical for her to be fine with nsfw outside of when it relates to herself.
do we have to pull up her introvideo and see what shit she likes?

>> No.7950155

>>7949997
>but there is no proof that Petra dislikes all NSFW content
You should tweet or message or superchat her any type of NSFW content you think she like then. You'll always be proven wrong.

>> No.7950169

>>7950078
>Yes, she dislikes all NSFW content provided
No. That's your headcanon.
>There is no reason to nuke a tag just like that
There is multiple possible reasons, and you've been provided with a few. Your choice to pretend they don't exist is yours alone.
>Unless if you can provide us proofs that she has exceptions to her dislikes
There's no proof she dislikes NSFW content to begin with. There is no way to refute evidence that is non-existent. If you could provide evidence I could refute it, but there is none. /vt/ schizos are not proof, there is no video evidence because she has not said such a thing, and simply removing a tag is not proof.

>> No.7950210

>>7950155
Cool headcanon, but I don't spend my money on veechuubas, and Petra doesn't have DMs open or reply to the vast majority of Tweets regardless.

>> No.7950222

>>7950210
>>7950169
>There is no way to refute evidence that is non-existent.
Dude, the easiest way to refute this is if you could find literally ONE (1) instance of her liking ANY type of NSFW content. It's not that hard.

>> No.7950251

>>7950154
>/vt/ thread
>"Gura Killer" thread
>OP pic hasn't even been shown yet
>Topic related to NSFW
Looking for logic in any of the above is a fools errand

>> No.7950263

>>7950222
She doesn't like NSFW on Twitter (emphasis: on Twitter) or discuss it on stream. Many vtubers don't, and it does not mean they dislike NSFW content. Not being public in regards to sexuality does not mean you dislike NSFW. Again, there is no way to refute evidence that is non-existent, and there is no evidence she dislikes NSFW content. Plenty of perverts put up a clean demeanor.

>> No.7950267

>>7950251
anon please free me from this hell, im fuckin losing it

>> No.7950283
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>ctrl + f niji
>13 results

>> No.7950305

>>7950283
to be fair anon the op was refering to niji to begin with sooooo

>> No.7950324

>>7950283
Also >we are arguing about whether or not Petra likes NSFW art, not the usual tribalfag routine

>> No.7950348

>>7950283
Meds

>>7950263
But she already made a statement she dislikes them one way or another. If a pervert wants to be seen as someone who's a puritan then so be it. That doesn't change the fact that they dislike or seen as someone who dislikes those types of content based on the statements and actions that they made. You wouldn't be able to comfortably talk about NSFW with Petra if that's how she wants people to view herself as.

>> No.7950349

>>7950267
If you're being serious? Just stick to the generals and filter out the buzzwords. That's the only thing you can do save force yourself to leave, get yourself permabanned, or block the site.

>> No.7950391

>>7950349
i more mean free me from this rratmans grasps, i already have an excape plan for 4chan all together.

>> No.7950421

Whoever it is I hope it isn't Shachimu. When we thought she may be in NijiEN 2 she leaned into it and started liking some NijiEN tweets and Petra art. This made it safe to assume that they got her. She had never done anything like this before and then quit once the debut happened. She went out of her way to make us look like morons.

>> No.7950433

>>7950348
>But she already made a statement she dislikes them one way or another
She hasn't. Removing a tag is not a statement.
>If a pervert wants to be seen as someone who's a puritan then so be it
The only person here who thinks of people that don't openly discuss or share the pornography they like as puritans is (you).
>That doesn't change the fact that they dislike
She has never stated she dislikes NSFW (which I assume you're referring to) so it's not a fact.
>You wouldn't be able to comfortably talk about NSFW with Petra if that's how she wants people to view herself as
In public, maybe. Plenty of people act differently in private.

>> No.7950464

>>7950391
Unironically Leave the thread or hide it. Realize that there is nothing legally binding causing you to reply. Another anon described it as "Last Word Syndrome". And an internet argument of this kind was never met to change the other guy's stance, just to get the other guy to repeat their own. Happens all the time. It's pretty damn easy to fall for too.

>> No.7950487

>>7950433
Petra (the vtuber character) dislikes NSFW. Again, it doesn't matter if the roommate is a massive degenerate. That wasn't the discussion about at all. She already made a statement with her stances on NSFW when she removed the NSFW tag and actively avoids anything surrounding the topic. You were making claims that she doesn't dislike NSFW, when we've yet to see any evidences of that. So far we've only seen that she doesn't like them.

>> No.7950514

>>7950421
sounds kinda based to me actually

>> No.7950549

>>7950487
>Petra (the vtuber character) dislikes NSFW
Not a fact. That's your headcanon.
>She already made a statement with her stances on NSFW when she removed the NSFW tag and actively avoids anything surrounding the topic
Removing a tag and not discussing porn on stream is not a statement. Whatever meaning you attribute to her actions is pure headcanon.
>You were making claims that she doesn't dislike NSFW
No. I'm making the claim that there is nothing proving she dislikes NSFW. Because there isn't.

>> No.7950593

>>7950464
but my mindgoblins anon...
>>7950487
wouldnt her roommate being a degen actual prove shes not a puritan? being a puritan wouldnt be part of her character at all because such a trait would show itself in different aspects of her character.

>> No.7950623

>>7950549
>I'm making the claim
And those claims are absolute rrats. There isn't a single instance that she liked anything NSFW and she even removed the NSFW tag. Actions speak louder than words. She wants to be perceived as someone who hates NSFW, so be it.

>> No.7950673

>>7950623
there isnt a single instance of her hating anything nsfw, removing a PLANNED nsfw tag isnt proof because of why she'd plan it to begin with if she hated nsfw.

>> No.7950685

>>7946853
Calm down petra

>> No.7950700

>>7950514
What is so based about that? We were mortified and vtuber-matome was laughing at us.

>> No.7950725

>>7950673
Look at how she's perceived now, look at what kind of messages she's sending. All of that points to the fact that she dislikes NSFW. Do other Nijis make anything lewd about her? No. Does her fans send her lewd and talk about it with her? No. Plenty of red flags right there that screams she dislikes NSFW.

>> No.7950727

>>7950623
>And those claims are absolute rrats
This was my claim.
>there is nothing proving she dislikes NSFW
It is not a rrat. It is fact. Removing a tag does not prove she dislikes NSFW. Not discussing NSFW on stream does not mean she dislikes NSFW. Where there are multiple possible reasons behind an action, it is a "rrat" to push one possible reason behind it as fact, which you continue to do.
>Actions speak louder than words
To remove a tag on Twitter has the same significance as going to the toilet. It speaks of nothing.

>> No.7950766

>>7950725
>Look at how she's perceived now, look at what kind of messages she's sending
Perceived by (you) thanks to your headcanons and the imaginary messages you imagine her to put out. Nothing leads to nothing. Nothing proves she hates NSFW.

>> No.7950776

>>7950700
you deserve mockery for trying to start a rrat in the first place

>> No.7950785

>>7950727
>Where there are multiple possible reasons behind an action
Yes, and the fact is they all involve dislike or aversion to NSFW. It is not one possible reason, how many times must I mention this.

>>7950766
>Nothing proves she hates NSFW.
If you really believe your own headcannon then find me a single instance where that is true. So far, the status quo says she dislikes NSFW or is at least be perceived to dislike them.

>> No.7950787

>>7950725
>Do other Nijis make anything lewd about her? No
But they do. Finana talked about what panties she imagined Petra to be wearing in a stream. But you don't watch their streams, so you shouldn't be making false claims.

>> No.7950817

>>7950725
anon, multiple hololivers and nijis dont talk about nsfw or have a nsfw tag, but that clearly are fine with lewd things if they signed up to a fucking japanese vtuber company.

>> No.7950848

>>7950787
Not lewd enough. Nyanners makes lewd statements all the time, even to the minors in her discord.

>>7950817
Some Hololivers dislike NSFW, like Suisei. I don't watch Hololive so I don't know.

>> No.7950873

>>7950787
How is talking about panties even lewd? I could be asking my aunt the same question. None of that involves cum, dick or pussy like what you see on twitter.

>> No.7950876

>>7950785
>Yes, and the fact is they all involve dislike or aversion to NSFW
They don't. Multiple reasons involve aversion to being viewed in a sexual way by others. You can enjoy NSFW content and dislike having your co-workers view porn of you. This is a fact. There is at least one plausible explanation why she would remove a NSFW tag that does not involve her dislike of NSFW content. This is fact. Read this over again and again until it gets in your head. There is multiple reasons she could remove the NSFW tag that do not involve a dislike of NSFW content.
>where that is true
Where what is true? Anon, you might need to take a break, you're imagining arguments that don't exist. Unless you're referring to me saying nothing proves she dislikes NSFW, in which the evidence is in this very thread - there is no proof here that proves she dislikes NSFW whatsoever, this proving there is no proof to be had. Unless you're going to say you have proof you haven't posted.

>> No.7950939

>>7950848
>>7950873
>Not lewd enough
Well if it comes down to a subjective interpretation of what counts as "lewd" or not this conversation is going to get even more silly.

>> No.7950941

>>7950876
> involve aversion to being viewed in a sexual way by others.
Dude, take your own advice and take a break. That right there is already one of the reasons as to why she could be disliking NSFW, but that still does not change the fact that she dislikes them or seen as someone who dislikes them. Plenty of people who dislike all NSFW have similar reasonings.

>> No.7950969

>>7950939
It sounds to me it was done more in a joking manner and not in a lewd manner. Even Gura is way lewder than that.

>> No.7950992

>>7950941
Anon... you are aware you can like NSFW content and dislike being viewed in a sexual way by your co-workers, right? This conversation can't continue until you understand the difference between disliking porn and dislike being viewed as a porn star. There is no proof Petra dislikes NSFW content.

>> No.7951025

>>7943612
>Destroy NijiEN
Wdym, NijiEN is a big failure, only Nijifags think otherwise

>> No.7951053

>>7950776
It was an earnest assumption made with an educated guess. Hololive doesn't force graduation and Nijisanji does.

>> No.7951055

>>7944442
>got trashed by chumbuds
You mean Gura antis larping as chumbuds.

>> No.7951070

Thread Before:
>Hahaha Gooruh Killer kek. Look at me, aren't my shitposts wacky?

Thread now:
>She liek porn
>No, she hat porn
>AAAAA
>AAAAA

Not sure if this is an improvement or not...

>> No.7951087

>>7950992
> you can like NSFW content and dislike being viewed in a sexual way by your co-workers
The notion that she likes NSFW is still a rrat here. She doesn't even initiate on anything lewd nor likes any lewd images or references on twitter. Ame from hololive feels weird when Gura mentions sexual questions about her but she does lewd things all the time. Difference here is that Ame is constantly and consistently lewd, while Petra has an aversion to all types of NSFW unless if there's actual evidence she doesn't want her character to be seen as one who dislikes them. Again, roommate shit doesn't matter here, it's about her kayfabe.

>> No.7951110

>>7951053
Holy shit you are dumb.

>> No.7951139

>>7951087
>The notion that she likes NSFW is still a rrat here
Right, and I'm not claiming she does. I'm claiming that there is no proof she dislikes NSFW content. Because there isn't.
>you are aware you can like NSFW content and dislike being viewed in a sexual way by your co-workers, right?
Answer this question and the conversation can continue. It's a hypothetical that relates to the conversation.

>> No.7951150

>>7951070
It is unironically a case of actual autism, not just shitposters trying too hard to fit in by parroting whatever is in vogue with the board

>> No.7951182

>>7951139
>>you are aware you can like NSFW content and dislike being viewed in a sexual way by your co-workers, right?
Yes, and again that's roommate shit. She could be a real degenerate irl, but the Petra Gurin character is a puritan. She removed the NSFW tag because that's how she wanted to be viewed as. There's no middle ground here, it's either you like them or you want to stay away from them.

>> No.7951196

>>7951150
i mean technically the rratman is trying to fit in by arguing his rrats are real unironically

>> No.7951242

>>7951110
No I am not. I just hate her for making an ass out of me, we were a laughing stock in niji anti threads.

>> No.7951247

>>7951182
>Yes, and again that's roommate shit
It's not. The Co-workers in this hypothetical are Nijisanji members. It explicitly relates to her identity as a Nijisanji member. The NSFW in question would only be about her Nijisanji identity. It has not the slightest hint of relation to her roommate identity.
So you are aware that one of the hypothetical reasons she could have removed the NSFW tag does not mean she dislikes NSFW. So you acknowledge the possibility that she does not dislike NSFW. So you should not post as if it is a fact that she dislikes NSFW, as it isn't.
>She removed the NSFW tag because that's how she wanted to be viewed as
This is your headcanon. It is not a fact.

>> No.7951294

>>7951242
The more you talk, the more pathetic you sound over this. Just accept that you got punked and move on, good night.

>> No.7951380

>>7951247
It's two different things here. We aren't talking about lewds of her actual roommate identity, it's all about lewds of her character. If her character is to be perceived as a puritan who dislikes those lewds, then so be it. May it be her own lewds or lewds of others. There is no other possible explanation for her removing the NSFW tag apart from her aversion to NSFW. It doesn't matter if she actually likes NSFW, it's all about how her character is perceived as. I don't get why you're so defensive about her being called as a puritan, because she essentially is. A few holos and indie vtubers are like that as well. Good, but they're not for me.

>> No.7951500

>>7951380
>If her character is to be perceived as a puritan who dislikes those lewds
There is nothing proving her character is a puritan who dislikes lewds. Removing a tag does not make you a puritan who dislikes lewds.
>There is no other possible explanation for her removing the NSFW tag
You've been provided with multiple. The idea that she, as Petra Gurin, the character, does not want to be perceived in a sexual way by other Nijisanji members, is one of them. Note that this cannot be "roommate" shit because Petra Gurin is not the roommate. Because Petra is not her roommate, to say that Petra as Petra does not want to be viewed sexually by her Nijisanji co-workers as a possible explanation - not a narrative - is not roommate shit. It is impossible for it to be, unless 3D and 2D identities merge once and for all, and the roommate becomes Petra.
>It doesn't matter if she actually likes NSFW
If it doesn't, feel free to stop arguing about it.
>I don't get why you're so defensive about her being called as a puritan, because she essentially is
Removing a tag does not make somebody a puritan.

>> No.7951576

>>7951500
>There is nothing proving her character is a puritan who dislikes lewds
Substantiate your claims then, that she likes lewds despite removing the NSFW tag. Because from what I can see, she just completely avoids all of them. Even other vtubers who don't have the NSFW tag are a fuckton more lewd than she is.

>feel free to stop arguing about it.
I'm talking about her roommate here, not the Petra Gurin character. The roommate and the character are two different entities.

>Removing a tag does not make somebody a puritan.
She did more than just remove a tag, she actively avoided anything NSFW as her character.

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>>7946980
>>7943424
Why are chumbuds like this

>> No.7951660

>>7951576
>Substantiate your claims then, that she likes lewds despite removing the NSFW tag
I never claimed she liked NSFW. I claimed there is no proof she hates NSFW. Because there isn't. Removing a tag and not discussing or liking (as in the literal act of liking on Twitter, to press the heart button) tweets related to porn is not proof Petra Gurin dislikes NSFW.
>I'm talking about her roommate here, not the Petra Gurin character
There is no proof Petra's roommate dislikes NSFW either.

>> No.7951694

>>7951576
timeloop time, rratman please youve been told explanations as to possibly reasons why multiple times, youre unwilling to listen.

>> No.7951700

>>7951660
>>7951694
She doesn't need to be an SJW to hate NSFW. You can actively dislike and avoid NSFW content without being a dick to everyone. Again, there is no middle ground here. It's either you are with NSFW or against it.

>> No.7951706

Petra has no "roommate", her real identity is unknown like most of NijiEN. Her only known identities are a small corporate vtuber, an utaite, and Petra.

>> No.7951745

I really don't care about which of you is right or wrong, but you guys do realize you are literally repeating the same two-three points to each other, right? You've both made your stances very clear. Just let the goddamn thread die already!

>> No.7951759

>>7951700
>She doesn't need to be an SJW to hate NSFW
Nobody claimed she was an SJW, so that's irrelevant. There's no proof she dislikes NSFW.
>You can actively dislike and avoid NSFW content without being a dick to everyone
While there is proof she avoids breaching the topic of NSFW content, there is no proof she dislikes it.
>Again, there is no middle ground here
There is. There is "indifference" between like and dislike. For or against.

>> No.7951807

>>7951759
>There's no proof she dislikes NSFW.
Every second that passes that she avoids NSFW content is more and more proof she actively dislikes them. This wouldn't have been a thing if she didn't make a statement by removing her NSFW tag.
> there is no proof she dislikes it
You have yet to provide me a single instance where she does like it.

>> No.7951835

Can someone please just turn this into a horny thread or something...

>> No.7951854

>>7951759
For comparison, Gura liked a lot of loli images and references, so every second that passes is proof that Gura is a lolicon. Despite her not having an NSFW tag.

>> No.7951861

>>7951807
>You have yet to provide me a single instance where she does like it
There is no proof she likes or dislikes NSFW. I am not making the claim that she likes it. I find it strange that you are asking me to provide proof of a claim I am not making.
>Every second that passes that she avoids NSFW content is more and more proof she actively dislikes them
It's not. There is multiple reasons she could avoid NSFW content. "Dislike" being the reason is not a fact, but your headcanon.

>> No.7951895

>>7951861
It is not a headcannon when it is an active fact that she avoids and averts herself from all NSFW content. For as long as I don't see her liking anything lewd, then it's a given that she doesn't like them. We need at least one example first, which she cannot provide.

>> No.7951923

>>7951895
>it is an active fact that she avoids and averts herself from all NSFW content
This is true. The reason she avoids NSFW content (publicly, at least) being dislike or hate is a headcanon. There is no proof she hates NSFW.
>For as long as I don't see her liking anything lewd, then it's a given that she doesn't like them
No, it's a given that she has some sort of reason behind her not breaching NSFW topics. Dislike being the reason is just your headcanon with no proof behind it.

>> No.7951948

>>7951923
Dislike is not a headcannon, if she didn't dislike them for whatever reason, she wouldn't be avoiding them in the first place.

>> No.7951986

>>7951948
>Dislike is not a headcannon
It is. There is multiple reasons she could avoid NSFW in public. One of these is her wishing to avoid being viewed a certain way by her co-workers, as I've said many times before.

>> No.7952002

>>7951986
>There is multiple reasons
And as I said before all of them entail disliking one way or another.

>> No.7952053
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>>7951835
PETRAS PENGUNNY UOOOOHHHHHHH

>> No.7952057

>>7952002
>disliking
Yes. I am not claiming Petra has no dislikes. I am claiming there is no proof she dislikes NSFW, specifically. One can like NSFW and dislike people knowing they like NSFW. This is a fact.
Let me repeat myself.
One can like NSFW and dislike people knowing they like NSFW.
One can like NSFW and dislike people knowing they like NSFW.
One can like NSFW and dislike people knowing they like NSFW.
Of course, this is just one possible scenario. I am not claiming this is what is happening. I am not claiming Petra likes NSFW. But it seems difficult for you to understand, so I'll repeat it as much times as necessary.

>> No.7952099

>>7952057
>One can like NSFW and dislike people knowing they like NSFW.
One can like NSFW and be perceived as someone who dislikes NSFW.
One can like NSFW and be perceived as someone who dislikes NSFW.
One can like NSFW and be perceived as someone who dislikes NSFW.
One can like NSFW and play as a character who dislikes NSFW.
One can like NSFW and play as a character who dislikes NSFW.
One can like NSFW and play as a character who dislikes NSFW.

>> No.7952132

>>7952099
>One can like NSFW and be perceived as someone who dislikes NSFW
Yes. People can be perceived as many things, both fact and fiction. I can perceive you as a retard, which I'm doing right now. It does not change the fact that there is no proof Petra dislikes NSFW.

>> No.7952162

>>7952132
She playing as a character who dislikes NSFW right now, and >>7951807
For every second that she avoids them, is her playing her role that she actively dislikes them.

>> No.7952182

Hey OP Next time don't put "Gura Killer" in quotes so that my filter can catch it.

Asshole.

>> No.7952193

>>7952162
>She playing as a character who dislikes NSFW right now
She isn't. She has never once said she dislikes NSFW. A dislike of NSFW has no relation to her character, beyond your headcanon.
>For every second that she avoids them, is her playing her role that she actively dislikes them
No. There is multiple reasons why the character Petra Gurin could avoid NSFW that do not involve her disliking them. There is no proof Petra dislikes NSFW.

>> No.7952216

>>7952193
>A dislike of NSFW has no relation to her character
You are completely wrong on this one. I specifically said she wants to be perceived as a seiso cunt who don't want anything to do with them.

>> No.7952224

>>7952053
I wish Petra had more than 2 (two) lewds. I'd commission https://skeb.jp/@moketa11 to lewd the shit out of her if I only had money.

>> No.7952245

>>7952216
>You are completely wrong on this one.
No.
>I specifically said she wants to be perceived as a seiso cunt who don't want anything to do with them
And I said that was nothing more than a headcanon with no proof behind it, because it is.

>> No.7952289

>>7952245
>nothing more than a headcanon
That is her current status quo, the only way you can ever disprove that is if you can back yourself up with claims that she does like them. Otherwise she doesn't and wants to avoid them. Whatever her reasoning is doesn't matter, you wouldn't be able to talk about NSFW content with her if she dislikes or avoids them.

>> No.7952297

She didn't mentioned she dislikes NSFW, she specifically said she's not interested in NSFW art of herself. When everyone had a NSFW tag she thought it's mandatory and did it but after she realised and removed it. How can you people be so dumb. It physically hurts my brain.

>> No.7952330

I thought we were talking about Gura? Why are you retards arguing about some nobody Vtuber?

>> No.7952348

>>7952297
If you wanna specify to that point, then show me where she liked NSFW art outside of her self.
(Protip: You won't find any)

What she said is just the tip of the iceberg with what she's been doing.

>> No.7952356

>>7952297
reminder rratman doesnt even watch clips, he just heard from nijien general that she removed the tag

>> No.7952357

>>7952297
Theses loons aren't discussing that, they're pretty much just trying to convince each other as to WHY she did so, despite how little it matters either way. It's pretty obvious that they're not going g to agree, but they're still goin...

>> No.7952364

>>7952289
The current status quo is that she avoids breaching the topic of NSFW publicly. I am not making the claim that she likes NSFW, I am claiming that there is no proof that she dislikes NSFW. Because there isn't. There is multiple reasons Petra could avoid NSFW that do not involve the dislike of said NSFW.
>you wouldn't be able to talk about NSFW content with her if she dislikes or avoids them
This is also a headcanon. There is no proof she dislikes NSFW. There is no proof she, as Petra Gurin, does not talk about NSFW content to her co-workers on Discord, in character, as Petra Gurin.

>> No.7952375
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I'm glad I'm not one of the retards who overhyped Petra as some kind of Gura killer and got to watch and judge her on her own merits.

>> No.7952381

>>7952364
>There is no proof she, as Petra Gurin, does not talk about NSFW content to her co-workers on Discord, in character, as Petra Gurin.
You're the one making headcannons here, I'm just stating the status quo.

>> No.7952429

>>7952381
>You're the one making headcannons here
Stating that there is no proof that she dislikes NSFW content is not a headcanon. It is fact.

>> No.7952430

reminder, nijisanji isn't the reason holoEN has become stale.

>> No.7952452

>>7952348
>then show me where she liked NSFW art outside of her self
Not publicly liking content on Twitter does not mean you dislike said content. There is no proof Petra dislikes NSFW content.

>> No.7952470

>>7952429
>>7952452
Stating that she actively avoids NSFW for the reason she plays as a character who dislikes them is a fact. The only way to ever disprove that is if she interacts with anything NSFW, and she has to initiate it herself.

>> No.7952478

>>7952430
Of course, Hololive sabotages itself.

>> No.7952487

>>7952452
>>7952429
Don't believe me? Go ahead. Post anything NSFW about her and see if she even reacts.

>> No.7952558

>>7952470
>>7952429
>>7952452
Oh my fucking god, shut up! There's no winner there. You are talking yourselves into circles. The thread will go into catalog long before you obsessed idiots put a sock in in it. Why the ever loving fuck do you care what some anon cares about your opinion of Petra's porn preferences? Why do you care so fucking much?

>> No.7952609

>>7952558
Because that determines whether or not if it's safe to interact with her with NSFW content. If she's gonna pull a Nyanners, and trash on people making NSFW art of her, then might as well not waste your time.

>> No.7952610

>>7952470
>Stating that she actively avoids NSFW
This is a fact.
>for the reason she plays as a character who dislikes them is a fact
This is a headcanon. There is multiple reasons Petra could avoid NSFW that do not involve her disliking NSFW. There is no proof Petra dislikes NSFW.
>>7952487
Petra does not typically reply to random Twitter people, so her potential lack of reply would not be proof she dislikes the contents of the tweets. She does not have DMs open, and discussing porn out of the blue in YouTube chats is frowned upon regardless if the streamer has a NSFW tag or not, so even if a negative response were received it would not be indicative of dislike of said content.

>> No.7952631

>>7952609
>If she's gonna pull a Nyanners, and trash on people making NSFW art of her
Nyanners has never done that. Referring literally to porn of Nyanners, and not loli characters in general. Suisei on the other hand has.

>> No.7952683

>>7952609
I didn't ask about sharing it with petra, I'm asking why you and that other jackass are so fucking insistent on throwing yourselves into a timeloop argument to prove a point to some nameless face that could be halfway across the planet?

>> No.7952695

>>7952631
Plenty of loli nyanners out there because that's how majority of people see her as, and Nyanners was bitching about it in her discord.
>durr i'm not loli
>hurr i'm gonna change my model, fuck you
One of the reasons I hate her so much

>> No.7952728

>>7952695
I've never seen any loli styled Nyanners porn. You're free to throw some in my direction. Smells like a narrative.

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>>7952728
I don't save them, but I'll dig through horny threads just for you

>> No.7952765

>>7952750
That's not porn, that's a meme made to mock her anti-lolicon status in contrast to her prior content.

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>>7952765
I know that retard. Chill your mantits

>> No.7953592

>>7943424
The only Gura killer will be Gura herself. But she's clever girl, she know what she's doing so it will not be something that will happen soon. Maybe in few months, maybe years...

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