/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7911983

>>7911983
Tell her to not speak with that voice or gtfo

>>7912143
miko's voice is ten times worse yet none of you care

the matsuri of EN

I just don't like rpg streams, i watch her other more interesting streams.

kfpfags always care about numbers huh. every single time. get well. I hope both (You) and your oshi realize that numbers don't really matter, unless you break down crying every 2 days because of it. Take meds if you unironically do cry over it.

also
>EN nijiniggers get more numbers these days

that means the audience have spoken. more than 50% of those who watch NijiEN have watched HoloEN before. that's just facts. Niji by themselves don't have enough relevance to have fans from other branches transfer to watching EN. if Kiara gets lower numbers after NijiEN debuts that's on her.

>>7911983
Funnily enough she is getting awful viewership because of the debuff game, awful timeslot for EN viewers, and the EN viewers that are able to watch are watching Calli..............and she still has more viewers than the average viewership of every single NijiEN. Lol.

>>7912164
No it's not, you fucking deaf nigger.

>>7912164
Miko is an adorable japanese woman with a speech impediment, while Kiara is a screeching harpy.

The voice chico. The voice makes my ears bleed. Please understand.

>>7912143
I wonder how much bigger Kiara would be if she hadn't permanently doubled down on the chicken voice.

>>7912569
>that means the audience have spoken. more than 50% of those who watch NijiEN have watched HoloEN before
not to mention there's a lot of KFP usernames in NijiEN chats lol

>>7912164
I dislike both of them

>>7912701
anon... getting more viewers than 100k subs chuubas is not the own you think it is.... no matter what "debuff" you attach to her, she shouldn't have comparable viewers to ppl with 10 times less subs than her

>>7913027
specifically, Pomu Fans seem to intersect with Kiara Fans. also they interacted on twitter a while back. maybe Kiara will do a nijicollab soon because she's afraid of losing relevance. (if OP is true and Kiara does have lower numbers than NijiEN)

not that I'm a tribalist or anything, it's just sad imagining the tribal seethe that will come out of it. I'd rather have these kinds of collabs happen than VTuberXRealPeople like the one Finana did a while back. I guess the fat Scarra Dude did have a funny dinosaur model done during the whole pokimane-vtube-bandwagon bullshit and technically is a vtuber, but it's just weird.

>>7913127
true. at this point hololive is big enough that there's a lot of "brand fans" who simply subscribe to all the girls without really watching any of them that much. I do exactly this thing. when HoloEN2 drops I'll instantly sub to their channels and follow their twitter within the hour. too many chuubas and not enough time, the logical course of action is to pick a couple of oshis and only watch those few.

>>7913127
>she shouldn't have comparable viewers to ppl with 10 times less subs than her
When will people realize subcount and average viewers has barely any correlation? Holos go up by 40k subs every month and no one has seen their viewership rise significantly apart from like Subaru, Miko, and Suisei.

Kiara has less viewers now than when she had only 500k subs. NijiEN and NijiEN2's debut buffs are wearing off and they're getting worse numbers than they were getting a month ago.

>>7912248
>the matsuri of EN
She's more like the Luna of HoloEN in that their voices filter the average Holofan. The problem is that Kiara has kept the chicken voice shit going for so long that it has become synonymous with her. Even if she changes it, I don't think people will give her a second chance.

>>7912143
Its her mixer's fault

Her problem is that she is Kiara, playing an RPG, which is also a Nintendo game, Those 3 combinations don't work well for live viewers and are considered debuffs. Timezone also knocks out most of her EN audience instead of EU. Does it really matter to her? Even if she is streaming at the same time as Ina, the suppose reclining vtuber, she still earns more superchats than her 9 times out of 10 even if Ina has more than twice the live viewers than her. That's probably where her focus is on more than how many show up whenever she streams.

>>7914146
Anon... Live views are a meme, yes. None the less 2k is pathetic...

>>7913019
If Suzy can change her voice over 2 years later, Kiara can too

>>7915447
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If Suzy can change her voice over 2 years later
Because Cover changed her VA, retard.

>>7915384
>live views are a meme
Aren't live views what actually matters because live viewers are the people that will send superchats?

>>7911983
I'm sorry but why can't any of you just watch your oshi without looking the the view numbers?

>>7916514
chat & fans reflect the streamer. Kiara is a numberfag.

>>7912701
>Le debuff game meme
People would watch a Paint Drying Watchalong with Gura/Ame

>>7916022
To be fair, she is doing fairly well in that regard despite low viewership.

>>7912143
based

Why would I watch Kiara when Haachama, Watame, Pekora, Korone, Kanata and Lamy are all live?

>>7912164
Miko's voice fits her character and demeanour very well.

It didn't go the same way with Kiara. She's leeching so many other vtuber's characteristics it feels like she didnt have her own identity.

Plus... Kiara's voice....come on man....it's a downer

>>7916514
like it or not numbers are the first stats to measure a vtuber's popularity

>>7912164
It's okay when the japanese do it

I like Zelda. I like Kiara. I've watched each of these streams.

With Ryza, Yakuza 7, Fire Emblem, Zelda, and Tales of Arise later Kiara is ENs designated jrpg streamer. It’s hard on numbers but you retain a cult-like audience because very few vtubers will play jrpgs back to back.

her voice sucks but i won't watch her because she's a self-centered annoying cunt

>>7911983
From En I like Kiara the most but her voice has somehow gotten so much more annoying... And also hate Skyward Sword. Out of all the Zelda games to play she picks up the fucking worst.

>>7917426
>frogposting

>>7911983
Kiara sucks and is fake as hell. The thing with Calli is forced, unfunny, and lame. Opposite of organic.

>>7912143
>>7912812
>>7913016
>>7913019
>>7917503
>>7917722
>voice timeloop
She'll never drop her glorious chicken voice. Be mad forever.
>>7916570
>Kiara is a numberfag.
Then why does she play games that she knows are a debuff? Checkmate athiests.

>>7912164

>>7916022
Aren't live views cucked by susan because it doesn't count people using ad blocker or are tabbed out and only listening?

>>7912164
and pekora too, apparently it's ok when the japanese do it.

>>7922447
This is just a cope people made up to feel better about their oshis numbers after youtube fixed a bug or got rid of bots. If the displayed numbers were actually lower than the real number of viewers then youtube would fix that with high priority because it hurts creators on their platform and resulting from that it ultimately also hurts the platform itself.

>>7923581
not saying the bug is real, but lmao if you think youtube is remotely competent or cares about creators

>>7912569
>>7913027
>>7913392
I don't think you guys get it but if they are watching nijien, they are also nijisanji fans at this point

>>7911983
She is too bitchy, also collabed with the cat fuck her

As if you needed any more proof that ENMA and/or the hos themselves indulged in rampant viewbotting

Kys samefag

>debuff game
Stop this meme, Pekora is had 28k viewers on her fucking grinding stream today. Noel who has about the same sub count get twice her viewers playing the same game

>She's streaming at a bad time
So you just realized your oshi is a retard who can't stream on the right time?

>I don't like RPG stream
Then why did you subscribe? Look at her playlist, playing RPG is literally her thing.

I don't get it, how can she have a fucking million subs but only 3k watch her. Like, do you just subscribe because of the Hololive brand? Because there aren't enough good EN vtubers? Is it Stockholm syndrome?

>>7923581
Inflating viewer numbers hurts the platform more. FB was caught doing it and now nobody takes their view count seriously. At least with YT's count you know it's at least that many.

>>7927044
>do you just subscribe because of the Hololive brand
yes, they do, case in point : Irys and her 500k subs followed by rapid decline after the debut

>>7925472
Viewbotting is too expensive and pointless only indian rappers do it. I've only heard rumors about KFP discord fundraising bots and they could only do it a few times .

>>7911983
YouTubes sc logs have been broken the last few days. One of my indies has apologized several times this past week because she couldn't read the ones she missed live.

>>7923737
I agree. I personally would like to think of them as BOTH a nijifan and a holofan, but this board says such a thing doesn't exist, so I have to talk as if the KFPfags have converted to becoming nijifans and abandoned Kiara, (which the live-view-numbers do point to, but the username-still-KFP-thing in Pomu's chat doesn't)

>>7922019
then Kiara is a *retarded* numberfag that doesn't realize the game she plays are debuffs. that, or she's one of those bitches who keep complaining about her problems but don't want to actually try to think about solving any of it.

>>7911983
>Kiara unironically deserves more
No, no one "deserves" anything. Get out of that toxic mentality

>>7922019
>Be mad forever.
The only mad people here are kfp because she has low numbers

>>7929832
but you are the retards that create 7 anti thread per day...

>>7929865
No, this thread was created by either a kfp, or a falseflagger, and I'm neither of them. Kiara's voice being a debuff is a fact, so at some point kfp has to accept it

>>7929753
>then Kiara is a *retarded* numberfag that doesn't realize the game she plays are debuffs
She openly admits that certain games debuff her. Particularly RPGs. But she plays them anyway because they're fun. You see Anon, Kiara isn't a numberfag. That's only a rrat made up by schizos such as yourself.

>>7911983
have you ever considered that sub counts aren't an indication of streamer quality?

>>7912164
People shit-talk mikos voice all the time
even the JOPs joke that she doesn't even speak Japanese

>>7912164
>>7922520
This is how shitty your ears needs to be to appreciate Kiara's songs

>>7911983
>Kiara unironically deserves more
I mean, you're probably right, but her voice is too much of a filter for me

>>7911983
kiara should just use her normal voice and use her kino spark outfit

>>7929945
proof next thread?

>>7929960
ok, I confess. I'm not actually believing Kiara is a numberfag. I'm just a retard who types whatever I've seen other people type.

>>7911983
6+hrs stream only 60K view kfpbros...

>>7922520
Pekora has the voice of a beautiful siren.

>>7911983
Let's kill her

>>7912164
Miko is cute. Kiara is repulsive. Hopefully her viewers drop below 1k when EN 2 is out.

>>7916993
They'd watch that because by concept it's a haha funny meme that they can stretch out for gags.
Meanwhile RPG and other story based games are due to their genre, start at a lower number than usual and lose viewers due to attrition since you need to watch them in sequence if you're interested in following along and not just for the talent.