/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7901607
>they need an entire month to celebrate
They can't stand being together on stream for an hour. You're asking for a month of material?

>>7901607
>Waiting an entire year to debut a new gen when it was so wildly popular, and thus letting it stagnate, allowing their competitors to steal viewership.
Yeah, Cover is fucking retarded.

>>7901607
The EN2 will be promoted by EN1 during at the last segment of their anniversary stream, we already know this.

>>7902713

>>7901607
Kiara's song would need to be relevant in the first place for Irys to steal her thunder

>>7902790
This is sad in so many ways.

>>7902790
You are just proving my point, NijiEN shouldn't even be able to break into triple digits if Gen 2 and Gen 3 had been a thing already.

>>7902719
Yes. They will announce them as their replacements because they will attend a peace conference.

>>7901607
They've stalled gen 2 for long enough already. All of the good Vtubers joined other companies instead.

>>7902994
Hey I got that reference.

I feel really old now. fuck

>>7903016
I seriously don't even get this retarded teasing, with shit like that cube shit, or other Holos trying to be coy about this shit.
What the fuck is taking them so long anyway, we known about them picking Gen 2 like six months ago.
Just release that shit already and put some speed into the next one so it doesn't take another fucking year.

>>7903115
I thunk they were supposed to release them shortly after the Singer, but Coco's graduation fucked them up badly, now they're caught with many events, anniversaries, stuffs.

>>7903174
Pretty much

>>7902790
I think you're just proving how Nijisanji's strategy works. You have a single 9300 stream compared to multiple people streaming.

>>7902972
You can't possibly think that watching one prevents you from watching others? Is that why tribalfags so fierce, they just retards?

>>7903174
Very unlikely, since the auditions started on 11th Feb and ended March 26th.
From all other auditions so far, it took 6-9 months after the auditions were done for people to debut. June would have been to early. September-October looked more likely from the start.

>>7903115
They're already having trouble dealing with all of the shit going on in July and August that are yearly events and will repeat every year. It would be much more retarded to release EN2 now.
There's not only the issue of dealing with all of the events from their side, but also dividing viewers' attention, time and money for the merch. There was more Marine merch available in the interval of one month than I could possibly dream of affording, imagine people who want merch from multiple chuubas.

Kek if you think they'd give that loose lipped island monkey any information about the EN2 debut months in advance

>>7903494
What if its ID3 instead or ID 3D debut?

>>7903520
i was gonna say, aren't the id gals supposed to debut their new outfits soon?

>>7901607
>if this refers to en gen2, a bad move by cover.
I don't expect a lot from cover, but I expect them to be more intelligent than Weekly Shounen Jump and Kodakawa.

>>7902972
>You are just proving my point, NijiEN shouldn't even be able to break into triple digits if Gen 2 and Gen 3 had been a thing already.
Vtubing isn't the game catalogue of a console, what are you smoking?

>>7903428
Maybe they should be more competent then, Nijisanji has no problem handling multiple overlapping anniversaries and other yearly events all in the same months every month.

>>7901607
>if irys debut stole kiaras thunder on sparks song,
Meds, NOW

>>7902713
Gen2 hype is going to deflate faster than Irys

>>7903395
June wouldve been the best time

>>7903783
Sure, that's fair criticism, but while they don't, it's much better to delay debuts by a month or two than giving everyone shit support. I don't want the talents to get fucked just to prove a point.

They're probably having problems with EN2 because
>Acts decent
>gets spot
>3 months into training can't hold back from political faggotry
>Gets 'Yab' talk
>Can't control twitfagging
>Sacked
>Repeat ad nauseam

That, or they're going to either release the same week of EN anniversary, OR they'll make it a proper year from the close of auditions because Amerimutts need potty training (Actual JP reps and the like)

>>7903355
NTA but you only have so much time in a day, retard. so yes, watching one does prevents you from watching the others. you can't watch them all.

>>7904035
Nah you only need a single reason for EN2's delay
>burgers getting upset about the design of their live2D avatar because it's sexualization/not diverse enough and holding up the debut with their demands for the artist to redo the design to something more palatable for the western audience

They're all just going to play minecraft and apex and have no chemistry after being collab banned for a month anyway

>>7903018
Oh, same. I'm ready for the retirement home now

>>7904035
>3 months into training can't hold back from political faggotry

Knowing how toxic 99% of western women are, this is probably the main reason. Especially with the "silence is deafening" attitude they tend to have.

nijisanji en is better

>>7903954
>June
Anon... I...

>>7903016
Then don't get Vtubers. Mori and Kiara didn't have any prior experience as Vtubers and they got picked. They could easily scout for some amateur VAs or ASMRtists.

>>7903520
with the newer covid variants like delta and lambda, 3d is not an option knowing japan restrictions.

You an idiot, OP. HoloEN are all good girls and none will have a menhera attack just because there are new girls out and about near their anniversary.

>>7904035
>he thinks that cover gives them any training
xd

>>7904103
They can demand as they want, but I'm reasonably sure they only *get* loose oversight over their designs. Cover would likely sack the talent and bring in a different one if they got too needy/demanding about it.
That said, it is feasible is.

>>7902790
Why did NijiEN fail? I think its because they hired Chinese Bugs.

>>7904035
If an EN vtuber got sacked 3 months into signing the Holo contract, I'm 30000% certain we would have heard about it on Twitter.

>>7904655
Yeah but the demanding and potential sacking is going to cause a delay. Especially since it's a gen and they need to be debuted together, you only need one bad apple to postpone everyone's debuts.

>>7904667
not getting holo numbers isn't "failing" and the number of people who care that they hired hong kongers probably doesn't approach the double digits

>>7901607
>stole kiaras thunder on spunks
Sorry, could you go and check how many views Sparks has, compared to any of IRyS's song releases? Thanks

>>7904633
I'm gonna need you to use your brain for this one, anonchama. We have EN1 - collectively, they have less JP interaction than anyone save Risu. Now, if one of your branches failed utterly to interact, would you step in on the next one?

>>7904716
In this business yes it does mean failure. Niji's BIGGEST collab of the year didnt touch Gura's outfit numbers.

Face it, it's a black company.

>>7904689
>He doesn't know about NDAs
We would've had angry vague tweeting - and to be sure, there's enough of that, everywhere.

>>7903520
>ID3
HoloPH plz

>>7904697
Yes... And - based on the pattern from previous gens - they're how far behind the proposed schedule, now?

>>7904836
Holo Prahova?

EN2 will ALL be deadbeats.

>>7904834
>>We would've had angry vague tweeting
Pretty much that

>>7904779
>would you step in on the next one?
Of course I would, but this is cover we're talking about.

>>7901607
I don't care when they come out, just as long as they aren't as ugly as Iyrs

>>7904875
I don't know, why don't you tell us since you're CLEARLY the expert here, idiot.

>>7904875
Judging from auditions to debut? Seems to be around 4 months, so if they closed in end March and began preparations then they're about two weeks late and counting.

>>7904689
>I'm 30000% certain we would have heard about it on Twitter.
not if slapped with a NDA those twitter fucks only understand power and getting sued to fucking oblivion would keep them mouths shut

>>7904934
Agreed, but - considering IRyS {The 'EN' Vsinger) We can see how important JP is to Cover. Moreover, (You) know how much reputation matters to JP from other JPs. How much you want to bet EN2 all have at least very shaky conversational Japanese under their belts, now?

>>7904981
Here. newfagchama - enjoy the only spoonfeeding you're getting
>>7905003

>>7905060
You didn't even type that retard.

Coco graduating delayed IRyS which in turn delays holo en 2, who will be delayed even a bit more because of an action packed week like this one.

>>7904436
i love kiara but i still am wondering in how the fuck she got selected and too the point they sacked some one else for

>>7904436
Mori got picked because she knew what SCPs were and did a good Pekora & LUna impression

>>7901696
This rrat is stale, they've gotten closer recently and seem to like streaming together.

Even Mori, to an extent.

>>7901607
August is lit what? I havent seen any hype shit from cover.

>one minute

>>7904836
Why do you want Hololive localized entirely in the Philippines Embassy?

>>7903636
Delta variant say hi, both Indo and Japan is absolutely fucked by it

>>7905197
holy based lack of reading comprehension

>>7905096
>Has idol experience, so she knows what to expect from autists/sexually aggresive managers/stalkers
>Speaks fluent Japanese and English so worst case she can tard wrangle the gaijins
>Can sing
>Is knowledgeable about your company and its talents, seems to be invested before application

Kiara was their safety net, as weird as it sound I would be willing to bet her and Ina were the two that Hololive were most confident with. The better question is how Gura and Ame were picked.

No complaints, I like the gen as a group but honestly Ame's such an outlier from a conventional hololive perspective.

>>7901607
As long as they don't bother and disrupt HoloJP, Holo EN Gen 2 can do whatever the fuck they want

>>7904779
>We have EN1 - collectively, they have less JP interaction than anyone save Risu.
Kiar...

>>7905844
Anon, read again. He said collectively. Probably as in averaged. I trust primary levels of math aren't beyond you, friend.
--
>Kiar...
Moona has had more JP interaction than Kiara, Egg, and she started from nil. Sit down.

Captcha: JPPPK

>>7906837
Collectively usually means aggregate

>>7902790
lain peaked at 5.1k live viewers during that stream https://playboard.co/en/video/s5-fFP2P5dc

also she's currently live with 7.4k viewers. >>7903342 is right

Thanks for the correction. Am ESL-chama, but trying my best. What >>7905844 said might have weight, then, though the Moona thing does still stand, too.

>>7907558
Meant for >>7906881

>>7901607
imagine using Kiara's shit song as reference rumao

>>7905130
and this cope is getting stale already

>>7903115
>What the fuck is taking them so long anyway
Might have made the rest of the models like IRyS, then realized they neeed to redo them.

>>7901607
another fuck up from holoEN managment

EN 2 are going to be non-stop yab magnets just like EN 1 was! there's going to be a San Francisco antifa activist, a black woman who openly hates white people, a latina just using Hololive's name to coast herself to popularity on Instagram and a tranny! they're going to DESTROY vtubers and Hololive as a whole!

>>7904035
>>3 months into training can't hold back from political faggotry

How delusional you have to think up that full of air?

>>7905261
>but honestly Ame's such an outlier from a conventional hololive perspective.

And that's what makes her fascinating and fun!

>>7905261
Ame had quite the following if you believe what they say about her roommate and streaming experience.

Gura had vtubing experience and numbers I think. Though she was drunk for most of it iirc.

>Ame had quite the following if you believe what they say about her roommate and streaming experience.
>Gura had vtubing experience and numbers I think. Though she was drunk for most of it iirc.

>>7904689
You're 30,000% incorrect. You wouldn't hear about it, similar to not hearing about Aloe's situation til as it happened. NDAs are wild like that.
>>7905096
Roommate.
>>7905261
Ame had a pretty big roommate presence, not always for the best reasons but like Gura, they aren't nobodies or doing anything different.

>>7908309
That would be based.

>>7908851
Not from Reddit you retard.

>>7907894
Absolutely rent free

>>7904814
They did pass gura's number, at 171K.

Also, keep the numberfagging at the number thread.

>>7904814
>delusional number schizo is a cumbud
Why am I not surprised, don't you have enough grooming children in your discord server?

>>7910658
Are you dumb? Gura's outfit reveal was 194k.

>>7904035
it's pre-EN1 debut all over again

>>7911600
pre-EN1 had no political yabs retard

>>7911729
He's talking about all the doomposting back then about "Oh no this is going to be when the SJWs invade muh Hololive."

It didn't happen then. It won't happen now.

>>7902994
Underrated post

>>7901607
Oversaturation is not something they think about when setting birthday and debut dates. otherwise there wouldn't be so damn many between the end of July and first few weeks of August

>>7901607
its actually gen6

>>7904667
I get what you're going for but it's a shit pun.
Fake Ina.

>>7912385
>Jamie can you pull up that one screencap of Kaira's chat?
This dude thinks it's not happening...

>>7901607
>gen2 stealing anything

gen2 will flop

>>7904512
Sure Kiara streaming on roommate channel isn't grounds for yab...

>>7910795
Jokes on you Gura is grooming us

>>7916021
I also think that, yea sure they will break records in getting subs, maybe do good at honeymoon phase, but Irys isn't just the model, it's current state of vtubing. People caught on the fact these are just normal girls with a 2d avatar and don't get hooked. EN market isn't ready for vtubing as we see it in JP.

>>7915823
Kiara's gay, her celebrating pride isn't SJW shit. Like even canonically in-fiction the character is gay.

>>7915823
>deleted almost immediately
What happen?

>>7901607
take your leads, retard.

>>7908309
what did america do to your head, human brother?

Pick your poison, it's not like they already have a bursting schedule.

Jan 7 days (2 debut, 5 bday)
Feb 4 days (4 bday)
Mar 6 days (1 debut, 4 bday, 1 both) *Suichan has both on the same day
Apr 8 days (5 debut, 3 bday)
May 4 days (1 debut, 3 bday)
Jun 5 days (4 debut, 2 bday) *1st is Aki/Matsuri/Fbk same day debut
Jul 9 days (3 debut, 6 bday)
Aug 11 days (10 debut, 3 bday) *8th is Aqua/Noel debut + Towa bday
Sep 8 days (9 debut, 2 bday) *Calli/Kiara, Gura/Ame/Ina share debut date
Oct 5 days (5 bday)
Nov 3 days (1 debut, 2 bday)
Dec 9 days (6 debut, 3 bday)

>>7916519
Roommate says otherwise my guy.

>>7918700
But why.

>>7916389
This is the exact same thing that happened to NijiJP girls.

People looking for entertainment eventually get bored of cute girls.

HoloJP hasn't had this problem because of the influx of new viewers/ GFE being different from entertainment.

>>7916601
Giala wants to support gay
Manager says no
Giala rebels and supports gay anyway then deletes the proof

>>7901607
>op really thinks they would tell the retarded zombie anything about en2

>>7921336
they told her about EN outfit reveals, Ollie knows a lot and management is retarded for telling a zoomer like her stuff like this. Yet so far management is retarded for trying to build up EN2 with these retarded lore videos

>>7908771
>drunk
I've done my reps for her roommates main channel, but I thought it was a character. Was she actually drunk on stream?

>>7901607
Ehmmm, you do know that cover doesnt tell shit to talent at all. As gen 5 and EN was a total surprise for girls.

>>7919077
roommate doesnt matter to the fact kiaras character is a gay bird and obviously her character would support lgbt rights regardless of her roommate.
By default most lgbt people agree with what the movement stands for, because otherwise it'd be okaying people to discriminate against them.
Stop using roommate reps as anything more then bonus material because kiara supporting lgbt rights isn't out of character, she is gay so shes not breaking kayfabe by doing so.
she'd be breaking more kayfabe if she didnt say anything about it then when she did.

>>7910658
Today I will remind them

>>7902719
This. I confirm this
t. Yagoo

If any on the EN2 girls have two different color eyeballs I swear on all your lives I am 100% done with Holo forever.

>>7916164
I have both a foot and a smell fetish because of Gura.

>>7922490
It's called heterochromia dear esl-chama

Chroma as in color
Hetero as in not you

>>7921733
Lurk in /pol/ will you... Twitter isn't most people. People are aware or bullshit that are pronouns, gender reassignment for kids, normalization of fetishes. Gtfo will you.

>>7922082
Saved thank you brother for sharing

>>7924458
my point is that kiara as a character supporting lgbt stuff is completely in character and roommate reps shouldn't matter here, i dont know what part made you think i was saying anything about twitter, but pol is no better, they're just as brain poisoned as any twitard.
if you talking about my point on how most lgbt people support lgbt stuff, then im saying that as a pansexual man, I fall under lgbt and I support the basic principles of the moment but ive never felt a part of that community.
A lot of the stupid shit they do and the umbrellaing of those under lgbt and generalising of lgbt from outside and inside basically becoming "not-straight" are dumb.

>>7901607
>if irys debut stole kiaras thunder on sparks
It being a shit song stole its own thunder
t. KFP with actual taste in music

Guys I just realized that niji means rainbow and they're all gay was something done intentionally?

>>7901607
Is Ollie going rogue?

>>7926722
yes

>>7926722
Is there anyone else in NijiEN that is confirmed LGBT besides Pomu and Finana?

>>7921637
She was know for drinking on stream and singing while drunk. It's what her old fans want to turn her into again despite knowing it made her depressed as hell. Probably why she quit being an indie in the first place.

>>7902790
I think a lot has to do with ame just calling her streams anything than something concrete so people don't know what she is streaming. Its more flexible for her since she can stream 3 games but that still stands.

>>7927134
Elira probably supports gays but she herself isn't

>>7922082
lol, this is just the nijiniggs ver of tianmen square pasta.
saved

How long do you think theyll keep us waiting until their debut?

>>7937825
probably september like ollie implied