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While retards are still sperging out about Matsuri, it's probably a good time to discuss. Where do you draw the line between GFE and non-GFE vtubers, and do you think even vtubers that don't engage in parasocial grooming should hide their boyfriends? Or are all vtuber audiences considered to be romantically motivated toward their oshi regardless?

>> No.7870393

>>7870363
I think all Gosling posters should be shot

>> No.7870431

i really dont give a shit

>> No.7870466

It's up to them whether they hide them or not, just be consistent and don't lie to bait lonely losers.
I personally don't want to hear about your boyfriend, but not because I want to pretend you don't have one, but instead because I don't want to hear about your private relationships on stream. I don't care about your boyfriend, I'd be watching him if I did.
The fact that I don't want to hear about it doesn't mean I need you to do crap like pretending you've never seen a dick or haven't had one in 5 years, just don't talk about it at all.
I also don't need chuubas who actually don't have a boyfriend and actually are virgins to be talking about this nonstop. It's ok if they want to, but they can also choose to just shut the fuck up about it, that's more than welcome.

>> No.7870473

and what happened with matsuri?

>> No.7870498

I'm not a virgin so I don't care.

>> No.7870544

>>7870498
Your pillow doesn't count

>> No.7870569

>>7870363
All female streamers that cater to men would lose a large portion of their audience if they were open about their relationships. It's a well known fact even among western content creators. Even those that don't offer GFE are mentally categorized as potential mates, and you are naturally repelled from them if they are not available.

>> No.7870608

>>7870544
My daki does.

>> No.7870634

Every chuuba enagages in parasocial grooming so it's ok to fall for it

Kagura Mea has crazy gachis in love with her even though she regularly try to disgust them with her past boyfriends stories (apparently she thinks that's what they want) but well Mea is also a bit of an idol she works on both fronts

>> No.7870701

I kinda don't care if it's brought up organically through natural conversation with chat/tangent on a related topic.

I don't really watch much of Matsuri so I don't know if what's going on with her but my feelings are the same. Just don't bring it out of the blue or talk about super personal stuff regarding the partner because that's kinda fucked putting your audience in that position.

>> No.7870713

vtubers are just another subgenre of "cute anime girls do stuff", of course it's all romantically/sexually motivated.

>> No.7870717

Getting caught being a normal woman is an occupational hazard in the chuuba world.

>> No.7870722

Matsuri's ratings are almost back to normal already. The whole thing will be forgotten in a week or two.

>> No.7870792

>>7870569
this is why suisei's great. you don't get the gfe feeling (or is it really just me?)

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>>7870431
This is the right answer.

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>>7870363
I think if you all faggots were following one that doesn't lean into the idolfaggotry and that you can actually take seriously in the first place you wouldn't be having these problems
not on like a real level

>> No.7870994

>>7870792
She does not give GFE, but you are delusional if you think she would ever talk about her boyfriend on stream. I do suspect that some of the popular Holos could get away with minimal damage, like Marine and Pekora, as they are(imo) genuinely entertaining enough to counter the feeling of being cucked.

>> No.7871027

>>7870363
>GFE
females
>non-GFE
males
if you're watching a girl do thing, you are almost guaranteed to be interested in the girl herself
with guys, you watch them because they're good at something/interesting in themselves
it's only nature

>> No.7871046

>>7870363
I absolutely have no problem if they have boyfriends but I prefer they hide for their own safety, if two chuubas are girlfriends and do yurishit on stream then I'll unsub and blacklist them bitches.

>> No.7871088

>>7870363
I don’t actually care since I don’t engage in that level of parasocial relationship but I have to admit GFE is kind of sweet
Now, I would expect a chuuba to be open about her romantic personal life or not at all if she’s going to pander to simps. Anyway, it’s not the end of the world for me if a chuuba has a partner

>> No.7871113

>>7870994
not sure for other hoshiyomis, but even if she does talk abt her bf on stream, i wouldn't care. also, that's definitely not what i wanted to say. i just wanted to say i don't get the gfe feeling from her

>> No.7871146

>>7871027
sounds like an exclusive you-situation

>> No.7871348

>>7871113
Then you are a minority. Most guys and girls can't "just be friends". Female content creators can't "not do GFE". Many people will say they're fine with it, but will just fade away out of each others lives.

>> No.7871431

>>7870498
don't lie, you are a fucking wizard

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>>7870363
>Where do you draw the line
I am a GFE Connoisseur. I hold all GFE vtubers in high regard and I consider them the peak of what Vtubing has to offer. My Oshi belongs to ME and no one else. She's my emotional support. My cumrag. My property. MY WIFE. You might mistake me for a gosling but I am not a pathetic Gosling. Goslings are far below me. Unlike goslings, I will never tolerate my Oshi having a boyfriend. I would rather her continue faking her gayness than let her near vermin Males. Also All non-GFE Vtubers are skags and whores who belong in the trash.

>> No.7871533

>>7871506
Based King.

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You are autistic if you think flirting = GFE. There are horny bastards in every stream. Most streamers acknowledge these peoples, for a laugh or to play along. GFE is a thing if they ONLY talk to you. Unless you are ok with being conflated into the idea of "chat" and the tuber being "chat's gf," which means no boy talk to get simp bucks.
Unless you really, unironically think you can woo a girl reading literally thousands of messages at once. Stop deluding yourself. If you could do that you'd be a Chad fucking every girl you wanted. But you aren't.

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>>7871506
Kneel in the presence of a king you shits.

>> No.7871646

>>7871506
You are mentally ill.

>> No.7871661

>>7871506
Your oshi spends most of her time reading other men's names and laughing at other men's jokes. You're getting cucked even on stream.

>> No.7871939

>>7871506
Holy based

>> No.7872120

>>7870363
everyone should have boyfriends, and girlfriends. I think that's just being fair. chuubas don't expect me to be a virgin (i'm not) so I can't in good faith expect it of them.

>> No.7872280

>>7872120
Your oshi absolutely expects you to be a virgin.

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>>7871506
>Also All non-GFE Vtubers are skags and whores who belong in the trash.

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>>7871506
wtf my knees are kneeling

>> No.7872367

is the likes of Pekora and Gura considered GFE?

>> No.7872388

>>7871506
No, you share your oshi with hundreds and thousands of other men.

>> No.7872418

I want to support a girl who doesn’t have a boyfriend. I am here because the performers I support have explicitly stated they are not dating a man and do not plan to.

>> No.7872533

GFE is just good content and a good niche to fill. Without it, your entertainment value will be held to very high standards, because there's a lot of competition.
And, I mean, it's pretty easy to not annoy your gfe fans. Just don't have males on stream.

>> No.7872976

>>7871506
>>7871533
>>7871616
>>7872288
>>7872339
GFE =Mentally ill

>> No.7873570

>>7872367
If you are extremely autistic like our Shrekposter here, yes. Pekora more so maybe, because of her constant reiteration of her being single because she is an idol. You can interpret this as "married to her work," as she mostly implies, rather than "chat's girlfriend" so as to not fan the schizo flame.

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>> No.7873789

>>7871506
holy based, a bunch of users on this board are cucks that just accept their GFE vtuber being with males. Here's your crown king

>> No.7873964

>>7873789
You are a mouth-breathing retard. You aren't cucks as people's oshis don't date them and never will, you NEED TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP AND HAVE YOUR PARTNER CHEAT to be a cuck, faggot.
And most people are so disconnected from reality it "doesn't count" because they are in love with the 2D chuuba, not their 3DPD roommate.

>> No.7874007

>>7873964
kill yourself matsuricuck

>> No.7874136

>>7874007
I can "cuck" you right now be imagining me fucking your oshi. Boom you're a cuck. Seethe about it, cucky, those horns are looking good on you.

>> No.7874249

>>7870363
Your sub buys the condoms he uses to fuck her

>> No.7874348

>>7871506
Is it possible to learn this power?

>> No.7874374

>>7873964
Yeah, and that's why the word simp came into existence.

>> No.7874419

>>7874374
Yeah whatever, I don't care. My point is that he, the GFEfag and most of this board, is full of retarded faggots.

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Just dont talk about them on the official channels so I can keep the illusion of them all being my gf :)

>> No.7874626

>>7873964
If you directly support a woman financially who offers you nothing but an illusion of female companionship, then you are a cuck.

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>>7871506
I... I will never kn-kneeeeEEEEE-
UGH!

>> No.7874829

>>7871506
I unironically agree, you are enjoying yourself and that's what matters the most, sure there are people that hate GFE and would rather follow a vtuber who Regularly interacts with male streamers or talks about sex with boyfriends, and they are entitled to their opinions too but they're cuckolds and should stay away from trying to tear down the fun of GFE enjoyers

>> No.7874837

>>7874626
No, you are a sad, pathetic man that longs for the touch of a woman a la Chris-chan.
Reading this pathetic pity party of a thread activated my neurons. I am going to start a vtuber video chat service. You get the GFE experience with "your girl." You set up a date, $50 per 30 minutes, your preference, up to you if you show your face or actually speak with her, I will create a video chat client for the site, set up a VPN, girls are payed by comission, 30% them 70^% me. How has this not happened yet?

>> No.7874902

>>7874829
>wah wah don't bully us
You clearly weren't bullied enough. This is for your own good.

>> No.7875364

>>7870363
>and do you think even vtubers that don't engage in parasocial grooming should hide their boyfriends
I would like for every vtuber to disclose if they have a partner or not so I can not watch their streams anymore and stop donating. I won't even give them a dislike, just leave quietly

>> No.7875428

>>7870498
you don't belong here.

>> No.7875480

>>7871506
I feel this way towards Mori

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>>7871506

>> No.7875661

>>7870363
I consider GFE chuubas whores and watch solely those who just play videogames and interacts with chat as a friend

>> No.7875680

>>7874837
Nijisanji has this. Yumenographia. But there are some rules like you can't be lewd or rude.

>> No.7876659

>>7874837
It requires a lot of labor to do one-on-one GFE for a large audience, so the only growth available to the girls is raising their price as they get more popular.
It's just a better business model to be able to pander to a large audience at once, because the growth potential is massive if you're good at doing GFE.

>> No.7877045

>>7870363
>it's probably a good time to discuss.
Why are you a lying faggot

>> No.7877362

GFE dependancy should genuinely be treated as being a mental illness. Except if mental illness didn't manifest itself in any sort of sympathetic way, so the only thing you're left with is telling the poor sad fuck to kill themselves.

>> No.7877830

>>7874837
Nobody would pay for GFE that requires them to suspend disbelief. I only started really going hard on spending on my oshi after reps informed me that her real life circumstances were very well documented and open and being constantly updated.
Realistically, no matter how weird it is, unless you want to spend a fortune in opsec that also doesn't look like opsec(as in, fake their real life info and fake it well enough that it doesn't look fake), you wouldn't be able to snare the biggest GFE paypigs. And that kind of opsec takes a lot of time and money to establish and maintain, and if fails even once everything comes crumbling down.
"Here, pretend to be in love with these disgusting incels on the internet. They will genuinely be in love with you. Also, you need to pretend that you're single, and I'm going to launch a dedicated team of professional detectives and cyber security experts to create a false life for you that you will never actually reference but only exists to ensure that when they do doxx you - and they WILL doxx you - that you appear single. This will probably go on for years, and if the truth ever slips out, there's a non-zero chance that one of them will find you, murder you, and wear your skin. Are you on board?"

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