/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ina fell off, sadly

>>7841114
Cumbuds don't care about Gura in collabs.

>>7841474
Ina had 1k more than Gura the whole stream. Why does she have 14k less right after?

>>7841564
Youtube

>>7841114
SEAniggers just woke up and watch Gura

t.seanigger

Why wouldn't you use adblocker?

>>7841114
chumbuds don't watch Gura in collabs and Takos don't watch Ina's vods

>>7841114
That’s actually very close. Pretty normal since they were close in live viewers too. Nothing too distant in both numbers.

Gura has more zoomer subs that open the stream for 5 minutes before moving on to something else

>>7842036
Thanks for an actual sensible answer, anon.
But how tf are views counted on jewtube?

>>7841114
HoloEN overall is on a recline - people are just now realizing that Gura is a boring and unentertaining streamer, hence why her CCV has been on a steady decline. Ina is consistent and is the only Holo that panders to the EU schedule, so she has a leg up until people move on from Hololive as a whole.

Consider the steady decline of HoloEN viewers vs the massive gains for Nijisanji in the same period - Vtuber fans have now come to understand that Hololive is bottom of the barrel braindead entertainment and Nijisanji will be the king once more.

>>7842232
Sure nijinigger

>>7842191
Clicked, stayed long enough for their server to count, that's a view. There are also stats for average retention period and stuff like that, which tends to be extremely low. I believe it was Coco who said her average was 3 minutes. If someone with her kind of content can't keep most people's attention for even 5 minutes, who can?
There's also the fact that the Holo audience tends to engage with the specific intent of boosting the algorithm, so for example people will click the stream with no intention of actually watching it, just to give it a like. Or a dislike, if it's the holo involved in the current drama.

>>7842321
>State facts
>get called names because they have no argument
Stay classy Holobrony

>>7842448
>State bullshit speculations and call them "facts"
>Anons think you're full of shit and not even worth responding to
Take your meds, retard

>>7842356
Average is not the best metric. Median would be a lot better since it's not skewed by a huge number of people who clicked in just to see what's going on and leaving right away.

>>7841114
Many of Gura's fans use adblock and not to mention youtube flags fuck ton of accounts as bot accounts for no reason at all and thats one of the biggest reasons since they dont count for live views.

Takos are cult worse than KFP
While KFP admire Kiara for her hardwork, Takos are schizos dreaming Ina as their ideal GF
Takos truly terrify me

>>7841114
1. chumbuds dont care about collabs.
2. chumbuds watch clips more than streams.

>>7842567
I agree, but it shows that the number of people who do this is indeed huge, explaining the VOD counts right after the stream ends, and why someone who was consistently lower throughout the stream was ahead in VOD views.

>>7842885
Guys if you want to numberfag vod views you need to wait a few hours until yt got their shit together. In the ender dragon collab Ina had lower vod view than Mori when the collab ended even though Ina had a lot more live viewers. Took multiple hours for the rest of the views to slowly creep in. How come numberfags always know the least about the numbers they post?

OP here. Apparently my post leaves too much room for interpretation for most of you brainiacs.
>whole stream Ina is 1k ahead of Gura
>post stream gura is 14k ahead of Ina
I don't care whether they've gained or lost traction. This isn't your usual numberfagging.

>>7842811
>KFPkek projecting
nothing new

>>7843027
Viewer churn for a 3mil sub vs a 1mil sub will be a lot higher.

>>7843027
That means Takos open ina stream and never switch for the entire duration
Fucking creeps

>>7843024
I'm not a numberfag, I'm just answering to anon's thread. That's probably why my information on this is faulty. My bad.

>Why is the best artist in the group pulling so many viewers?
>Why is the second worst artist in the group underperforming?
You retards do this every Gartic Phone stream

>>7843136
Not necessarily, especially if the live view count is lower. A higher live view count stream has to have more people coming in to make up for more people leaving.
It hasn't been long enough yet for the VOD views to be accurate in this case but it was really odd when Gura had more VOD views than Pekora during the summer festival.

>>7841114
Gura is already 130k while Ina is at 117k.


I honestly think it just time difference and people catching up to VODs.

>>7842232
I mean gura still pulls 20k solo regularly.

>>7842448
>denies being nijinigger tribalist
>while throwing out their stock "burn"
ok retard

Gura at 170k and Ina at 133k now

So it's clear that Cumbuds are vod watchers and tentacles are the opposite

>>7847950
It's more like chumbuds fucking hate Ina for some reasons.

>>7848124
Nah, everyone passively hates Ina. Its just that everyone pubically hates Kiara

>>7841114
holy shit HoloEN numbers are in all time low, Cover needs to release EN2 ASAP

>>7847950
Nah, it only proves that Chumbuds viewbot Gura to boost her numbers while Ina's are legit

>>7848339
They should viewbot her collabs more. lazy asses.

>>7843688
Gura is a global Holo. She has less live watchers on average relative to her subs but more vod watchersto make up for it. Ina's audience is assumed to be mostly western and eastern, with a more stable and engaged fanbase that brings in competitive numbers in proportion to her subs.

Gura has quantity. Ina has quality. But that's to be expected, as they cater to opposite demographics. Gura's fanbase is comprised of ironic weebs who like clapping and laughing along. Ina's target demo is more similar to lamy's. Her fanbase are "responsible" adults who value engagement and competence. Given the age of YouTube's average modern viewer, gura being more popular was inevitable. Regardless, there's not much to compare because aside from both being vtubers competing for general market share, their niche markets are fundamentally distinct and exclusive.

tldr Raw numberfagging ignores the finer nuances of armchair statistical analysis. Personally, I consider Ina to have solid long term staying power as her fandom is more community than fad chasers.

>>7848895
Wasn't there a statistic way back that Gura's viewers have the most overlap with Ina's compared to the rest of HoloEN?

>>7848832
They only like lolis.

>>7848339
Found one.

>>7848895
I found it, according to >>4998220 44.2% of Ina's viewers that typed in her chat also did so as well in Gura streams 2 months ago.

>>7842811
If you don't think about Kiara as a gf you don't even deserve her as your oshi, kys.

>>7848951
based

Why are you retards all so obsessed with numbers? they're already all millionaires it's not like none of them give a shit

>>7849310
If we were obsessed with numbers, we would be comparing them with everything Pekora does.

>>7841564
Gura has more people shuffling in and out of the stream.

>>7842811
>KFPkeks = saviorfags
>Cumbuds = Imoutofags
>Morifags = /mu/
>Amecucks = Autists
>Takokeks = "Play her ribs like a xylophone with my penis"

Also
>Kiara: "No one realizes just how much hard work I put into things."
>Gura: Cunny funny
>Mori: "Fuck 'em"
>Ame: "It's not my fault."
>Ina: The only one who actually has a job besides hololive (Not self employed like Cali)

>>7842567
Average is the best metric because it shows that a huge amount of people aren't staying, especially compared to those staying longer.
Median is a decent measure but it's ignoring the fact the view count gets inflated by drivebys. If there is a normal distribution of something similar to
>5k - 10 second viewers
>4k - 1hour viewers
>2k 3 hour viewers
Saying the average/median is 1hour is disingenuous because nearly half the viewers didn't actually watch for any amount of time and you need to account for that.

Hypothetically from a statistics standpoint you'd just throw away all the driveby viewers and not even include them as views or likes because theyre irrelevant and didn't partake in the content at all. At most you'd include it as a separate statistic not included in the primary viewers statics

>>7847950
It's not necessarily VOD watchers, Youtube takes time to "verify" views after a stream. Gura may have just had more people removed from the live view count.
>>7848339
If they were viewbots they wouldn't show up as VOD views either. Youtube doesn't add views to the total until they get verified.
>>7849494
Unless Gura had more people than Ina removed from the live view count this isn't likely. If everyone was actually counting as a live view then there would be heavy fluctuations in the count.
People are constantly coming and going from streams so in order to maintain a higher live view count you need more people coming in.
If Gura actually had fewer live views, it's very unlikely that she had higher view churn.

>>7848124
It's not like people hate Ina, she is really boring and during collabs with her Gura is very limited

Reminder that anybody who doesn't use an adblocker is literally self-harming. It's the exact same as cutting yourself over feelings

>>7841114
it's not fun watching someone who can't draw in drawing game

>>7841114
It's a drawing game, so I'd rather watch the one who can actually draw.

>>7841114
She stream at fucking 5 in the morning, i have to wake up first to watch her (gura)

t. SEA Chumfuck

>>7843220
>Fucking creeps
That's called a dedicated fanbase, a smaller one for sure, but more loyal

>>7848124
Is more that they love to see Gurame collabs more than a no chemistry collab with Ina