/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>What are some of the advantages that a virtual avatar provides compared to traditional webcam streaming? How can you best tap into the virtual nature of the avatar to your advantage?
There's the obvious one for people who don't want to reveal their face or don't have confidence in their looks, but I also feel like for the purposes of content creation, its a lot easier to do skit type humor with a virtual avatar since you don't need to invest in like, a green screen or anything.
you can easily make up settings to place your character without having to like, change up the physical space around you. The things that come to mind here are like how a lot of vtubers have like, karaoke stages when they sing karaoke or like how ame has different settings she places herself in for her different streams (see: birthday stream, sleep "asmr", her detective office, etc).

[Microphone Copy Pasta]

Here's a few tips for all of you about microphones for all of you:

First:
-If you are starting, take a look at what you have around, maybe your gaming headset will be good enough to start.
-If you have a rockband mic laying around stored in some box, it may do the job too, stick a pantyhose on top of it to stop plosives, cut a hole on a ceral box to have it serve as a mic stand and voi-lá. This used to be the beginner youtuber special back in 2011~2013 and it worked very well.
-Check the noise reduction filters and equalization in OBS (or maybe use NVIDIA RTX Voice if your card is compatible) for some boost in quality.
The important is to start.
-Study mic technique, a lot of quality improvement can be done without spending a cent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty8YLqOmbV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKnCEsZ_og

After you begin and you look into into buying a mic to improve your audio quality keep in mind a few things:
-"pro" audio requires a lot of investment in equipment, acoustic treatment, mixing, etc. A lot of your favorite vtubers and regular youtuber and streamers don't have it and do just fine.
-USB mics are generally not the top end of the microphones contrary to what Blue's marketing team may want you to believe, but a good quality one is more than serviceable. If you're not that tech inclined and want an all-in-one quick solution, consider one.
- A good XLR mic, a boom arm, a pop filer and good audio interface will be enough. Don't get lost chasing "the best", don't get lost into the audiophole rabbit hole, it'll cost you a lot of for increasingly diminishing returns that most of your
viewers and won't notice.
- If you are on a tight budget, look for dynamic microphones, a Shure SM-48 with a windscreen, an XLR-to-USB adapter or a cheap audio interface will be cheaper and beat in quality most USB mics at thrice the price.
-Take into consideration your needs - lot of streamers, for example just use condenser mics because it's "studio quality" but can't get the quality they may potentially output or do anything that will really benefit from having one (like raw music vocals to for mixing).
-Going off from the last point, if you are not recording music (I don't mean Karaoke streams with some reverb kicked in, I mean actually recording vocals for mixes or professional voice overs) consider dynamic mics instead of condensers like most big streamers do, it'll save you a lot of headaches.

About Mic types, there are basically two that matter for you.
Condenser mics:
- A lot of people who do livestreams use these; They are your Blue Yetis, AT2020s and similar.
-Usually are called studio mics, and there's a reason for that. While give you a nice voice recording with a fuller range of capture, to make the most out of them you need a controlled, studio environment.
-They are more expensive by themselves, often require more accessories (not only a boom arm, but shock mouths and the like), and are often overly sensitive (which is why you get a lot of mouse and keyboard noises when people are playing).
-To make them sound the best they can will require acoustic treatment of the room you record (because they are sensitive and capture the sound waves bouncing on hard surfaces and that messes with your quality) or home-made recording studio/booth (or a makeshift one, like getting inside of a closet full of clothes or recording inside a pillow for).

Dynamics mics:
-These are the stage mics, most of you will be familiar with handheld ones stick with the little ball on top of it (but many can have different shapes and look as "studio-like" as the Condensers).
-They're usually very good at not capturing the noise that's not immediately in front of them, which is why they're used for concerts, churches, TV, and even presidential speeches (US presidents have been speaking into SM-57s for a many decades now).
- That means you don't really need to have an acoustically treated room and the clicks and clacks of your keyboard and mouse won't be picked so easily, which makes them great for home studios.
- While dynamics can get expensive, due to their construction they'll be less expensive than Condensers. The legendary industry-standard Shure SM58, for example, costs 100 bucks, and even the top models like the RE20 are way cheaper than the high end condensers that cost thousands of dollars.
- Dynamic can also be used for studio recordings - a lot of Rock vocals are recorded on Shure SM-58s because it's gritty; a ton of podcatst and radio studios use the Shure SM-7B (with Joe Rogan being the most famous example), NPR uses the Electro Voice RE27.
- Dynamics however are not as sensitive a as Condensers, they're not ideal for most musicians doing studio recordings unless we're talking rock/metal vocals.

Hope it'll be of use for all of you.
And sorry for double spaces but it's a lot of information and I wanted it to look organized.
Godspeed, anons!
And good luck!

Lets make the 4chan network of Vtubers where things will start out shaky but fun and then we start talking about jews and doxxing each other.

>>766092
it's pretty easy to make a simply overlay in if you go for like, basic patterns. if you're doing streams that aren't mainly talking streams and you have a program open at all times then most of your screen space is gonna be of a game anyway
>>766050
different anon beat me to the OP but also the FAQ simplifies what was in the pastebin more or less

>>766129
Joke's on you, I've been autistic about internet safety for my entire life.
I literally can not be doxxed short of outright hacking into some company. I have no weaknesses.

>>766187
Ok then let's do the 4chan vtube network and you can be the one that betrays me and docs me and then I'll have to do something like reach out to Keemstar or some other gay channel.

>>766264
How about we just do some really light drama stuff like a love triangle or something? Keep it simple, without ruining anyone's life.

Should I buy overlays or is it something I could make myself?

>>766327
nah, of you have to swat the other.

>>766528
I have a somewhat different opinion on this than most people, but for what it's worth?
Fuck overlays.
Most streams are so cluttered and full of distracting patterns and animations and crap.

I went the other way with it. I focused on high-quality artwork and I'm keeping everything in screen space.

there was an anon who posted his overlays and talking about his model reveal debut or something, and half the screen was overlays with empty dead space. an example of how not to do overlays.

>>765853
Lets say I wanted to commission a high quality non humanoid 3D model like Kos here. Would something like that work? Who would I even go to to get such a thing?

>>766702
>>766585
>>766182
this one looks simple and I think I could make my own looking at this.

>>766785
yeah that looks simple

>>766182
These two websites have free assets like microphones and backgrounds and all that as well if you don’t want to make your own. You can use them for free and commercially. Credit isn’t necessary either.

https://sozaino.site - for backgrounds and props
https://www.irasutoya.com/?m=1 - more props

>>765853
Solid OP maybe add resources for mics and audio software next one.

>>766765
You'd have to create custom software unless at least the top half was humanoid, because of how the rigging tends to work.
You're also paying through the nose for a monster model since that's a specialized subset of character modeling and they're often in demand... and for all that effort you get the reward of not being very popular because extreme stuff like that is off-putting to most people.

>>766785
Find a good color swatch website and you can easily make something simple and nice like that, if you're so inclined.

>>766187
Unless you kill all your acquaintances there's always a chance for someone to recognize your voice and speech patterns.

>>767083
It's not a secret from my friends or close relatives or anything. I've discussed my plans with some of them etc.

They're just all smart enough to not go HURR DURR I KNOW DIS GUY HE'S MY COUZIN because they are also aware of internet safety.

>>766765
i've seen a couple of vtuber models that are non humanoid; a parrot, a rotomdex, a snake, etc so it should be fine but I guess you might need to find someone more comfortable with rigging non humanoids
>>766785
yeah that's the kind of simplicity i went for; just a really simple background without too much flourish and the game taking up most of the space

>>766810
>>767115
Point is I think it keeps focus on you and the game. And that's the point.

>>766107
Came to post something similar to this so I'll just add that a big plus to avatars is that just like cartoons they don't age and can't lose their aesthetic appeal over time, so the person behind it can stay on the role for much longer as long as they don't fuck up their voice.

On the topic of Male V-tubers and making it big from last thread:
The world's most popular streamers and youtubers are men and a Vtuber is just a streamer with an avatar.
However, women wil get attention just because they're women (it comes with other bs though) and stay at it long enough - the same will happen in the V-tuber niche, specially when it started with women to appeal to men.
Still, becoming a mid-sized streamer is not that difficult (still requires work though), the formula is: work on improving little by little, figure out your niche, market yourself and and grind away.
Now, to be big... that takes something else.
I'm my personal opinion and observations, you have to fill one of these roles:
-Be the audience's friend:
This is the hardest because everyone is trying to be the audience's friend and to be one all it takes is not being a repuslive person. If you only rely on it, it'll be more difficult than the others are. Unless you are ridiculously super charismatic (or a woman 4/10 and above, this just won't fly alone, yout have to combine it with something else.
-Be the audience's surrogate relative/dependant/figure of authority: This one is also bit hard, because it happens more or less spontaneous as a result of who you are. Are you a reliable person and can relay it in a way that the audience starts treating you like an uncle or older sibling?
Does your bad sleeping schedule and eating habits make the audience worry about you as if you were their younger sibling?
Do they treat you as a lovable teacher?
These kinds of parasocial relationships can form and make your audience stick.
-Be the audience's designated specialist:
The most straightforward, still hard. You need to know something extremelly well (or at least fool the audience well enough) and, while not always required if you're just that fucking good (like Flash is at Starcraft: Brood War), be good at translating that knowledge into entertainment.
These are your professional gamers and very high-ranked players, the minecraft red stone wizards, the guys who can beat those made-for-youtube-levels on Mario Maker without breaking a sweat because they've spent the last 15 years playing shitty mario hacks.
This is a lawyer spending a saturday night downing a bottle of patron while he reads some meme internet drama that ended up in court and explain the legalese for the drama-starved peasants.
This is the Finnish guy showing in depth the next piece of Russian Balance in the test servers and discussing the how it'll once again destroy the fun of WWII-inspired lootbox machine.
This is a scottsman picking the worst one-province nation in your map-painting simulator and doing a world conquest and humilliating the devs so much after they try to patch the game deliberately to stop you that they have no choice but to hire you to be their beta tester.
Depending on your niche, you don't even need to be that great if it's underserved by good entertainers (Maximillian Dood).
Keep in mind that the key word here is entertainment, this means people want to watch display your skills, not teach them - i.e.this is not about watching a programmer explain C# functions, this about watching a white hat use social engineering to trap scammers and maybe teaching you some internet privacy while he's at it.
-Be a master entertainer:
This means you need to go above and beyond. This is where your larger than life, Mr. Beast type of figures come.
Are you a professional eater who can stuff 20,000 callories in a sitting?
Can you tell the story of your first visit to the dentist in 5 years in such a way that you'd fill a restaurant and have people pay for your Netflix special?
Are you a fucking excellent singer who can make your audience's jaw drop when you start the first notes?
The bar is set high here, you need be really good at entertaining an audience
-Be the audience's Jester: Be the retard everyone laughts at. It's actually actually harder than you think, because it can come off as forced and it'll still be obnoxious for many (think PewDiePie playing Happy Wheels). This can come from self-pranking (spicy noodles challenge) or others.
-Be the thing helicopter parents will let their children watch: You'll make it big, but you'll hate yourself, baby shark.

>>765138
Cartoons (and I'm using cartoon as a catch-all term for non-realistic representation of a person) are more relatable - the abstraction of facial features into an avatar or a character may get the audience attached in ways they wouldn't with a person in a faster time.
They also allow you play a role easier: A dude with red contacts, a white wig and some fake teeth saying he is a vampire while playing an FPS all day would look and sound stupid, put as an avatar it suddenly is acceptable.
Unless your audience is literal children (or man-children too) like Dr. Disrespect, you won't get away with it with just a webcam.
And that can help a lot to entertain an audience.

>FAQ:
>Do I need an expensive rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
>You do not! A simple .png avatar can be enough to get started.
For anyone interested in being a vsinger, this goes double.
KAF and Saki Ashizawa produce most of their content with a static image.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPZgBtMYoFKypEG2SCvBN9A/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ1U65-CQdIoZ2_NA4Z4F7A/videos

>>767453

>>767453
jesus dude use some fucking paragraphs

>>767453
I literally had to copy your post into a text file and reformat it to be readable, my dude.

>>767453
Wall of text, but good content

>>767586
>>767660
Every time someone uses reasonable paragraphing you people sperg over redditors. Can you fucking decide?

>>767729
if you talk like this

and double space

after each line

you're a fucking redditor

paragraphs are fine, jesus

useful opsec tips for anyone starting out:
https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166

>>767729
The only people sperging about paragraphs are newfags themselves.

Now if you type every line with a double line break, then yeah, people are gonna sperg about reddit spacing.

Basically, don't do it like this.

>>766921
So let's say price is not an issue. Also I don't care about being popular. I would like to know who would be capable of such a thing.

>>768761
go on twitter and search for open commissions on live2d rigging services

>>768761
I can't honestly say I know. I'm not a modeler who works by commission, so... I'd say check Artstation. If you search a while, you'll find someone open to freelance work and in the right style range.

If you actually debut with this fuckin weird concept I'll be impressed.

>>768881
Read the chain of posts you're replying to, you dumb shit.

>>768989
you can find Live2D riggers on twitter you fucking moron

>>768761
You don't need to create custom software, just use facerig.
Hire some freelance 3d modeller on Fiverr. Depending on who you hire, you may get someone who can do both the modelling and the rigging for 3d facetracking (if you're going non-human, you'll likely be using facerig or animaze).
How much it'll cost depends on the freelancer and what you want - face, wait-up or full body. You'll be looking at $800 minimum for the full thing if you hire someone from a third-world country and already have the full character design.

>>768761
If price isn't an issue, there's this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb8RM9b36Nc
That said, he only works with existing art IIRC, so you'll still have to find someone to make the artwork but that's a lot easier. If you can get the artist and the L2D artist to work together on layering, I bet it'd be pretty smooth.

>>769020
We were specifically talking about 3d models, you absolute illiterate mongoloid.

>>769151
you can find 3D modelers on twitter too, jesus how fucking dumb are you?

So I'm spitballing an idea to work voice changing into my gimmick. Idea is that my character would be a boring, monotonous dude (that is, me) possessed by a smarmy low-level demon who wants to use vtubing to spread chaos and disorder. He's not very good at it, though.
https://files.catbox.moe/jo6h6n.mp3

>>769570
if you can pull off the character acting you can do an act like ENA. (don't think too hard about the plot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td7CBNu0914

>>769708
I feel like I just dropped a ton of acid without realizing it

>>769770
yeah, don't think too hard about it.
the character ENA has 2 parts, a male voice and a female voice, and they alternate depending on the emotions that the body is feeling. you could probably pull off the vtubing thing with an avatar that changes to show the audience which persona is in charge of the body at the time, along with your voice modulator to swap between the two.

>>769816
Before I pursue this any further... I realize that I shouldn't really care too much about it, but are there any decently-sized indie (or small agency) chuubas who try the same gimmick? Not counting "female does ikemen voice", I realize that being worried about what others are doing seems kinda stupid but I also don't wanna use a gimmick that seems like I'm imitating someone in particular.

>>769083
Interesting. I'll check him out although I really would prefer to move with a 3d model.

>>769061
Thanks for the suggestions. I really don't like using twitter and would prefer to contact someone directly. $800 is literally nothing since I broke 6 figures in gains last year due to crypto.

I think I might have to commission to draw what I have in mind from all sides before going to a 3D modeler though.

>>769875
closest thing would be checking out the vtuber fandom wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Virtual_YouTuber_Wiki

they have a section for virtual groups, and list out some of the vtubers in the groups. most of them are your stereotypical anime girl/guy, but you might be able to find what you're looking for there.

How's my setup

>>769960
Very nice! Looks like you treated yourself to a nice mic! I went with a cheaper one but good on you. Good luck!

>>769570
Using a voice filter for it is, in some ways, risky.
Somewhere along the line you're going to have technical problems. It just plain happens, and that could lead to a hitch in the stream.

If you're going to use a kitschy and high-concept approach like that, I recommend getting gud and doing it entirely within acting.

>>767548
based

>>770187
>I recommend getting gud and doing it entirely within acting
I don't think any amount of acting skill would enable me to flange my voice with a self-chorus at two lower registers

>>766129
I've already started that: https://discord.gg/JN3DheGD

Technically it's for males, but I assume women won't be involved by default.

>>771591
I like the idea of a discord for bouncing ideas, meeting more indies with similar ideas raised from the same internet hellhole so we know that our content has some common link and common ground. anons intimidate me less than twitter users as a whole as far as reaching out. however, discord is also a terrible idea because i don't trust any of you as far as i could throw you.

>>771941
yeah that's why I didn't join it the last time it was posted either
the people here are cool under anonymity but I fully expect some schizo to join it and shit things up and I'd rather not have my vtuber account connected to that in any way
more power to the people who aren't afraid of that though

>>771591
considering we already had some /pol/tard asking for advice before I'd rather not run the risk of associating with people who only have one joke and the joke is saying nigger

>>772119
that's why I hate when people "JUST COLLAB WITH THOSE WHO POST THEMSELVES HERE" which, yeah okay it's a gamble to put yourself out there and you have to take risks to get where you want to go. people SEEM sane enough truly in the thread for the most part but it takes one fucko to ruin a server, one weird undercover looking for shit that isn't anything, one person with no real intentions milking ideas. the problems always come when someone takes away the anon element even if your discord is disconnected from anything else. if you've been on either one long enough you know its true.

i wish i could reach out especially to the positive anons who encourage people (who we all hope are someone who's established themselves and made it out) and all of the others that talk about Hopefully meeting on the other side of this board though.

>>772425
Just gotta find a way to subtly self-advertise I think, though dropping a link to your debut in /wvt/ with nothing else might work.

>>772425
for the most part the people who have posted their actual accounts seem like good people and while i would love to ask for collabs i'll probably wait a while for them all to have started for more than a while and build up their followings
sometimes i wonder if any of the people i follow on twitter now are also posting on this thread

when aloe got cancelled i thought about doing this advant garde satire vtuber video where i debut an anti called nagasaki hiroshima and i would just pretend to troll some girl and doxx her, but this is not the kind of community where a video like that will be positively received or garner much attention. im kind of tempted to do it instead of a character called chang zhang and pretend to doxx coco for social credits, i can speak chink so itd be fucking perfect but it might get flagged for racism and itd be too imflammatory

they're not even trying with the baits anymore. and yeah, i'll happily join some normie discord, but not one on here. too many immature edgelords who only exist to bait (You)s. not risking that.

>>773047
Literally self post.
Despite the memes, they are very helpful, or at least they want to be... as long as you can handle one or two schizos if they are awake.

>>773367
is your idea sort of like a bgkumbi but instead of pretending to harass pewds it would be some random v-bitch? sounds pretty funny desu

>>772216
Our first rule on this discord is no n-word.

>>773816
you get that amount of tinsy plausible deniability with self posting if you want it unless you trip, discord is much stickier.

>>774285
in my mind its more like im creating a video that reflects the more toxic and low life part of the fan base and to make them seethe as much as possible by depicting how pathetic they are using the media they consume. its a funny idea in my head but given how the entire vtuber viewing community try to force this facade of positivity and wholesomeness the video prob will never reach the chink/jap antis

>>772119
I get it. What I mostly want out of this scene is fun, though.

>>775049
oh i see. you could always create a caricature of the average v-schizo or v-simp on 4fags and reddit.

>>774455
But how will I address my fellow Mahjong Soul-playing chubas and if I can't enderaingly call them nyaggers?
Shit discord 0/10.

>>767586
>>767660
>>767704
(I liked this post, so I tried to reformat it a little to be an easier read)

On the topic of Male V-tubers and making it big from last thread:
The world's most popular streamers and youtubers are men and a Vtuber is just a streamer with an avatar.
However, women wil get attention just because they're women (it comes with other bs though) and stay at it long enough - the same will happen in the V-tuber niche, specially when it started with women to appeal to men.

Still, becoming a mid-sized streamer is not that difficult (still requires work though), the formula is: work on improving little by little, figure out your niche, market yourself and and grind away. Now, to be big... that takes something else.
I'm my personal opinion and observations, you have to fill one of these roles:
>Be the audience's friend:
This is the hardest because everyone is trying to be the audience's friend and to be one all it takes is not being a repuslive person. If you only rely on it, it'll be more difficult than the others are. Unless you are ridiculously super charismatic (or a woman 4/10 and above, this just won't fly alone, yout have to combine it with something else.

>Be the audience's surrogate relative/dependant/figure of authority:
This one is also bit hard, because it happens more or less spontaneous as a result of who you are. Are you a reliable person and can relay it in a way that the audience starts treating you like an uncle or older sibling?
Does your bad sleeping schedule and eating habits make the audience worry about you as if you were their younger sibling?
Do they treat you as a lovable teacher?
These kinds of parasocial relationships can form and make your audience stick.

>Be the audience's designated specialist:
The most straightforward, still hard. You need to know something extremelly well (or at least fool the audience well enough) and, while not always required if you're just that fucking good (like Flash is at Starcraft: Brood War), be good at translating that knowledge into entertainment.
These are your professional gamers and very high-ranked players, the minecraft red stone wizards, the guys who can beat those made-for-youtube-levels on Mario Maker without breaking a sweat because they've spent the last 15 years playing shitty mario hacks.
This is a lawyer spending a saturday night downing a bottle of patron while he reads some meme internet drama that ended up in court and explain the legalese for the drama-starved peasants. This is the Finnish guy showing in depth the next piece of Russian Balance in the test servers and discussing the how it'll once again destroy the fun of WWII-inspired lootbox machine. This is a scottsman picking the worst one-province nation in your map-painting simulator and doing a world conquest and humilliating the devs so much after they try to patch the game deliberately to stop you that they have no choice but to hire you to be their beta tester.
Depending on your niche, you don't even need to be that great if it's underserved by good entertainers (Maximillian Dood).
Keep in mind that the key word here is entertainment, this means people want to watch display your skills, not teach them - i.e.this is not about watching a programmer explain C# functions, this about watching a white hat use social engineering to trap scammers and maybe teaching you some internet privacy while he's at it.

>Be a master entertainer:
This means you need to go above and beyond. This is where your larger than life, Mr. Beast type of figures come.
Are you a professional eater who can stuff 20,000 callories in a sitting?
Can you tell the story of your first visit to the dentist in 5 years in such a way that you'd fill a restaurant and have people pay for your Netflix special?
Are you a fucking excellent singer who can make your audience's jaw drop when you start the first notes?
The bar is set high here, you need be really good at entertaining an audience

>Be the audience's Jester:
Be the retard everyone laughts at. It's actually actually harder than you think, because it can come off as forced and it'll still be obnoxious for many (think PewDiePie playing Happy Wheels). This can come from self-pranking (spicy noodles challenge) or others.

>Be the thing helicopter parents will let their children watch:
You'll make it big, but you'll hate yourself, baby shark.

>>775570
Man that depends. Hard r? Can't defend it. If you want to affectionately call your mahjong partners niggas, though, I'll stand behind you.

Look, let's be honest here. There are like 15-30 of you. So let me make my case. We can have a lot of fun. We don't have to do anything political or weird. We can do some deep dives into the tech. We can arrange collabs with each other. That's the purpose of the discord, and nothing else. There's so much potential with the tech on offer that I have a hard time believing you all think the end-all is idol concerts.

>>776275
codemiko needed a 10k tracking suit and years of dev experience at a corporate level to do what she does which blows jap tier shovelware tech out the water, if any of us are that proficient we'd probably be doing that shit instead of shit posting

>>776275
how many people are in the discord currently? inb4 just (you)

>>776813
its like 20 people with me having just joined

>>771591
I like this idea, but I was in a different 4chan discord and things get weird real fast.

>>776747
Codemiko has tech but no idea or personality.

From another thread, thoughts? Maybe commissioning a model based off western cartoons would receive better reception?
>>775558

>>771591
you seem like you don't talk to very many people on the daily

>>779002
if you wanna appeal to kids, yeah
there's already an indie thats sorta like that, gruff old pirate dude, problem is he sounds like your typical 19 year old east coast american

>tfw came up with a (western, not weeb) name that's properly themed but also not either already in use nor the name of a real person (at least can't find anyone in search results for "[name] vtuber")
Sugoi

>>780115
that's how i felt when i came up with my name
there were close matches but none with the spelling and ordering of the two names

Okay so i'm the guy who was going "what do I do for a character reference". I'm bootstrapping several steps with each other to get where I need to be.
>Use shitty nip animu character generator website to make something more or less what I'm hoping for
>Currently blasting a bunch of Fiverr character/reference sheet artists with messages along the lines of "hey, with this shitty low-quality dress-a-character picture and a bunch of headcanon, would you be willing/able to expand it?"
>If I get anyone to bite, take it to a dedicated Live2D character designer to turn into a true anime dude, rather than expect them to do the work (also a lot of them have a long lead time, I'm guessing because of the complexity of L2D models)
>Finally take that model to a dedicated rigger to make my dreams of being an anime dude come to life
Progress of some sort. Feels good man

>>771591
kill yourself

>>785629
Best of luck, Anon. Wish I was in the same boat as you, but money's a bitch, and any artist that catches my eye has their commissions closed.

>>765853
please add Vtube Studio to the list of live2d tracking software, its cool and what I recommend to all my clients
on the other side, facerig fucking sucks, prprlive is good

>>786534
waiting on that vtuber studio update that allows us to use webcams

>>786459
I'm seeing a lot in the $40-$60 range for what I want (front-and-back character references), and they're all wide open. Maybe you're looking at the wrong people? Or is even 40 bucks too much (no judgment if so, even I'm kinda second-guessing myself).

I am going insane waiting to hear back or not hear back from Cover about my application

I think I shit the bed and am just going to have to keep up streaming on my indie channel for now but I just want to know what they thoughtttttt

>>786727
yeah, it should come next month or something

would it be a bad idea to focus my avatar on a franchise? For example: I love Fire Emblem and will mostly play the FE series, FEH, maybe Smash. Would it be bad to make my avatar wear armor from one of the games and be "from" that setting. Since i'm basically RPing.

>>786885
It's the LIve2D artists and riggers that are on the expensive side for me, they're not necessarily out of my price range, but the expense will hit me hard. That stimulus check would be really nice right about now.

I should go ahead and get the character designed at least, now that you mention it, though.

>>787126
I don't think it would be a bad idea at all, Anon. In fact, I think it might be a great way to attract fans of the series.

>>787157
Yeah, that was precisely what I was getting at with the workflow I posted before. Think of it this way (it's what I'm telling myself), better to spend a bit less now to get a decent ref sheet designed by an artist that is explicitly advertising concept expansion, that's part of what they do, and then you'll have a nice, pretty reference to throw at the L2D artists when they open up, AND you can either pngtube and/or start networking >predebuting/vtweeting, hey, it works using that art.

Will idol hopeful come back to us?

>>787192
thanks, I'm just afraid that Nintendo would just come in and slap me across the face. I don't think they would since i'll be streaming to like 4 people on a good day but just a thought I had.

>>787110
great news then! been keeping an eye on it since they announced they’d be working on it. I downloaded prprlive to get more familiar with it but vtube studio seems like it gives you so much freedom it was hard not to feel cucked. it was also considerably cheaper to upgrade to HD webcam over upgrading my phone currently.

>>787293
You're very right, Anon. I'll go ahead and get to that. Thanks for the encouragement!

>>787529
As long as the character doesn't have any symbols or something that Nintendo has already made, you should be fine. They can't copyright an artsrtyle. Unless you literally meant armor directly from the game. Even then, I feel like it might be a bit hard to tell, but your best bet is finding a Fire Emblem fan artist and coming up with an original concept to give to them.

Just did a stream and got 6 more follows bros

>>787126
>would it be a bad idea to focus my avatar on a franchise?
yes
it would pigeonhole you if you ever want to branch out and it won't actually be cool or exciting for FE fans if they can just play the games themselves to live the experience you plan on offering

>>787126
Inspired by should be fine since it's not like they have a copyright on like, their weird armor designs as long as you don't copy them 1-1. Would be cool to also do collabs with another person that plays fire emblem too!
>>787791
great to hear bro, that's progress!
my twitch following has been really slow despite my twitter following increasing at a decent pace which feels not great but I'll take growth where I can!

>>787791
that's pretty good

I want to get into streaming with a 2D avatar. Out of the recommended software which one would be best for doing little improv skits in a janky animation style as seen on shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab? Something I could move around like a puppet or load up with a bunch of canned animations that I could play to do stupid shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqpwemhoccI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpEt86GDK8Q

>Indo on Fiverr responded to my design ideas and is drafting a rough sketch for me before committing to order, will have by tomorrow
I-I think it's happening bros

>>789715
gg, nothing is more satisfying than seeing your ideas take form. was a little emotional seeing mine.

Can any male vtubers post their channels? I've been trying to look for some good examples of how a male vtuber to learn from but all of the ones I watch are from Japan.

>>787791
Congratulation, but don't focus on this number too much, 90% of people subscribe then "forget" to watch you.
I've made some stats along several channels to see if I could find which number determines whether a stream is approuved by fans or not. I find that it is better to focus on the viewcount (right after the end of the stream) divided by the total number of followers, expressed in percent I found these followings:

>Ultra popular channel: >25% views/followers
>Popular channel: ~20%
>Good channel: ~15%
>Average channel: ~10%
>Shit channel: ~5% or less

So, I can conclude it is really hard, perhaps impossible, for a newcomer to make 0.25 of people stay watching you. If you manage to raise this number above 10~15% that means you are doing it right. If you're stuck at 5% or less that means you need to change something.

>>789715
>Indo artist
i hope you're okay with a creativity level only one small notch above your own

i'm planning on being a dense cheerful character to make the cluttering in my talking voice a cute trait. is it too annoying am i overthinking this

https://voca.ro/1vCKS8FhOFjJ

>>790105
Didn't even know Indians could draw anime.

>>790135
amazing voice, pleasantly surprised by the slight accent

>>790166
indo = indonesian, like HoloID girls. That one place out in south east asia that embraces their local culture a bit better than malaysians do but also smells like cigarettes literally anywhere where there's people

>>790105
maybe anon could give skeb a shot

I thought idol hopeful was /ourgirl/? What happened?

so i was thinking of using www.artbreeder.com for starting with but its little annoying to use, so any good tutorial on it? or any other alternative.

if its too much trouble i will stick with a 3d model and for face tracking should i use my android phone as a camera or i wouldn't make any difference

i like to think i have an idea for my design so any good vroid tutorial, i know its pretty straightforward to use but hair is difficult with mouse

>>791244
sorry for posting twice but i should have add what my game plan is:-
for starters i want to play osu! and other games maybe even chess when i improve a little, maybe i can stream my daily japanese study stuff(mainly anki reps) and btw is twitch(or youtbe) anal about pirated game and emulated AAA games for eg botw on cemu?

>>790925
Start from here then read downward, her last post is after this one. >>648929 Has since either went into hiding or dropped the trip after a drop in reputation.

>tfw you encounter an actual leech in a discord server for a semi-popular chuuba
>keeps bragging about buying stuff like motion tracking
>writing a script for his debut
>commissioning a model and rig
>all the while playing yes-man to every word chuuba and/or her manager posts and sucking up to them at every given opportunity, but is extremely toxic in private conversations and gets his feelings hurt over everything
>the day of the debut arrives
>instead of a debut video it's "How to become a vtuber" guide that he posts in the discord channel
>blandest design imaginable
>blandest voice you could conceive of
On one hand I guess good on him for spending all this cash
On other hand god what a massive cunt that guy is.

>>787326
>>790925
>>791415
Well first of all, I can't be /yourgirl/ given my temporal nature, as I've explained plenty of times.

But, mmh. I didn't really expect anyone to come looking so if I worried some of you with my abrupt disappearance, then I apologize.

To address some of the concerns I've read; I don't think I'm much of an insider at all. As I've said many times [I'm only one or two steps ahead of you.] Though, I do have a very intimate knowledge of idol and internet culture in Asia including Japan so I've been applying that to what I know.

My boss and manager have advised me that [4chan is a bit of a seedy place] so the idea was to leave at the first sign of trouble. Once I saw a threat about downloading my VODs and harassing my company, I think it's gone past what I can handle.

If you truly enjoyed my content and liked coming to the stream, please support VTubing agencies that'll be launching this year and beyond. If luck allows, we might see each other again sometime.

Good luck on your journey! Stay grounded, but stay hopeful!

>>791663
>My boss and manager have advised me that [4chan is a bit of a seedy place]
You really needed to be told that? I call bullshit.

>>791718
>people picking at everything

>>791439
post it

>>791718
literally in this thread there are people trying to make a network of "4chan vtubers" >>766129

>>791820
it would be different if 4chan wasn't pretty widely known even to newer generations as a seedy place. as a streamer of any kind you have to be pretty aware of the internet not only for content but also for security reasons. if there is an intimate knowledge of idol and internet culture then 5ch would be something that would be well known and we aren't too fare of a leap from that. I'm not calling bullshit exactly but I'll admit its a tiny bit odd.

>>791870
I remember her mentioning she was from 2chan. I wonder if it’s less shitty than western boards?

>>791856
I'm not gonna let him get more views than this snake rightfully deserves, so here's a 360p image

>>791663
You need to learn to deal with trolls and antis. You can't just give up when faced by them.
Coco had to deal with Chinese antis for months and those fuckers are the most relentless autistic retards I know of. She broke in tears in a recent stream and Kanata came to comfort her. Still, she didn't gave up or backed down.
A few anons from /wvt/ made fun of you and you just left when you should have faced/ignore them. Think of it as though love and practice on how to deal with trolls/ antis form now on.
Own the fact you're a tranny. And also do your voice reps, your voice sucks. >>>/lgbt/19007822

>>791415
I didn’t expect such a shitstorm from this thread. Was her voice that bad It just reminds me of Towa’s singing voice

>>792041
I'm guessing it's her opinions which made her look like she's a typical westerner.

>>791960
>company essentially told her to leave
>muhh tuff luvv
not everyone wants to put up with retards from the chan, anon

>>775687
Where does nightmare fuel vtuber fit in?

>>792372
He will learn to deal with the retards after his debut then. And he should have prepared for them before posting here, without relying on the company to tell him to leave.

>>792446
you will never make it with that personality anon

Do you get better and extra tracking out of a webcam with prprlive than an android with vtube studio?
Don't intend to drop cash on an iphone just get, though a webcam ain't so bad
I don't own a webcam at all though, and dunno how high quality I should go if prprlive is actually superior

Voice gimmick idea: You know that deep-pitch sound effect someone speaks through when they're trying to stay anonymous? Yeah, that.

>>791663
idol hopeful is a bit of a narc, as evidenced by the fact this tripfag still can’t stay gone after leaving

>>795134
Unfortunately has been done ad nauseum

Any background artist recommendations?

I see surprisingly see this rarely discussed

When getting art commissioned for a 2D avatar, is there any guideline on what needs to be drawn for it and how? Is it usually tricky for artists who are unfamiliar with the process? Not even talking about them rigging it, just doing the illustration
In a perfect world, I know exactly who I would want a commission by, but they're a smaller artist and maybe unfamiliar, I'd like to know what I'd be getting them into, even if I end up chickening out altogether

>>797402
Yeah, the layers of the art need to be set in separate layers for the rigger
If you know who is doing the rigging, you can send them the uncolored version of your art and they can highlight how all the layers should be separated
Alternatively, there are also guides that explain how to separate layers and it's pretty straightforward

wondering if an educational vtuber gimmick would work, but having difficulty working out how a stream would go. i could just do prerecorded lecture videos where i talk about things, but that just turns me into a glorified rantsona. and it might be better just to leave out the avatar for those and just get straight to the lecture part.

>Browsing through the aspiring vtuber discord again for new resources
>Confused by sheer amount of people that have pronoun roles
>Decide to actually check the roles channel
>~700 she/her
>~400 he/him
>~250 they/them
>~1,500 server members
Alright unironically, how many trannies actually make up western vtubers or are there actually a significant amount more females then men?
I would have legit thought there would be more males than women despite it being an industry where girls get a fat bonus because they are like 90% of the viewership, these numbers confuse the absolute fuck out of me though, I don't know how to process it

>>795134
that shit bricks

>>799175
it is little out of the topic but is there any vtuber who does lectures?

>>799176
du u rly? i thought it was obvious males were the minority, how many male vtubers do you see much less ones making hq content?

>>799175
>>799254
You shits reminded me that this exists. https://www.spirituniversity.info/ Saw it in passing on one of the vtuber threads on Twitter. They've been doing teasers and reveals of their "teachers" and so far it's some bimbo and a loli, so basically what you'd expect.

>>799268
I thought they were all 2vus know one knows exist, a sea of male chuubas which the females and a few lucky men sail upon
This actually kinda makes me happy desu
Makes me think the reason there aren't as many great and well known male chuubas is because there just isn't enough of them out there

>>799291
fuck there goes my gimmick

>>799323
same i had this idea from 1 year ago

>>799175
>>799323
I've more or less been doing weekly lectures in my stream (though i've only been active for two weeks at this point) but the thing about education is that its such a vast field that another person doing lectures really wouldn't step on others toes
someone doing lessons on say, physics wouldn't be taking away from the audience of someone doing lectures on classic lit, so I'd say go for it

>>799319
i think its getting more popular but its harder to stand out because you can't rely on the kawaii desu gimmick of being an anime girl. factor that in with actual /lgbt/ users living out the anime fantasy, and male vtubers who use female avatars as a gimmick with their normal voice and it doesn't leave much more than "femboys" or guys trying too hard to be dark. each will have their own fanbase but none of the above are great for individual appeal or longevity unless you commit.

a lot of people get really roped into the hololive style of vtubing where everything is a deep character and you have all these unwritten rules. if you want to check out some more average male tubers, besides the ones mentioned here, maybe give some of the niji guys a look

>>799409
true.are there any good stem indie streamers

>>799175
On what topic? If you are knowledgable on something, that's a great way to niche your audience down.
Cure Dolly got popular on youtube doing exactly that

>>799409
guess my next question would be wondering how much a vtuber avatar contributes to an enjoyable watching experience. i know everyone's pretty tired of Zoom University with the professor in a tiny box staring awkwardly into their laptop's webcam. so maybe i'm thinking even a pngtuber model might be nicer to look at

>>799176
There is probably a big chunk of babiniku out of those, but in general in any creative profession or hobby you'll have a sizable proportion of LGBT+ people, so that may certainly affect the numbers. But there really are many women doing streaming.

>>797304
I don't know too many of them, one of the best of all time is ArseniXC but I don't know if he's doing private commissions these days. Some of my friends did good BGs at different points in their careers, but not sure if any of them is still active in public internet (getting old sucks).

You can always go to JP sites such as Coconala and Skima and whatnot and search for 背景 or 背景イラスト, or twitter/DA if you want someone who speaks English without MTL.

>>799175
Education these days experiments a lot with gimmicks to find students and help them stay focused, so it's worth a try, I've been interested in this sort of thing myself, though I'd need to refresh a lot of what I studied in the university ten years ago... I've seen some Japanese indies doing physics lectures and whatnot.

oh shit, TMSK from VOMS does something like this already.

https://youtu.be/uEPrsrVWWMg?list=PLTG8u3yt_KuZXjQ0diiVB_-3QabgF5GIp&t=2670

>>799479
I know that there's a lot smaller indie streamers that use scientists/professors as their avatars but i don't know if any of them do dedicated lessons. I do believe that they talk about their fields while streaming though.
>>799506
The thing about vtuber lectures like this would be that the viewers would want to be learning in the first place if they're coming to you. I think what the vtuber avatar would be adding is that sense of interactivity you get from seeing a face as opposed to a blank screen.

>>799506
I think the most important part is to actually have a personality, a character, even if it's something you play out. If having an anime PNG helps build a character, good! I only remember those teachers from the university who actually had some personality, because for dry material I could, and did, just read the books. Studying those subjects felt more engaging, whether positively so (fun, better) or negatively so (stress, worse, but still had an effect), especially if there was some interaction, tests and exams included, though online it probably would be just Q&A.

>>799582
>I think what the vtuber avatar would be adding is that sense of interactivity you get from seeing a face as opposed to a blank screen.
>>799588
>I only remember those teachers from the university who actually had some personality

thanks for the input anons, i'll keep thinking about this a bit more. and that vtuber university group is debuting next week, so i guess i'll keep my eyes on them and see how they're doing it. see if i can learn something from 'em as well.

>>799564
so much text, at least doesn't look like pop sci garbage

>>799653
it seems to work because there is steady chat through the entire video. i think the energy from the lecturer bouncing between TMSK and the space Cthulhu guest is enough to carry the show. TMSK and cthulhu act like the "students" in this lecture, and the audience is coming along with TMSK's ride as they all get lectured together.

>>799506
the problem with those boomer professor is that don't take the advantages of online classes and teach in the same monotonous way, they could use polls, more interactive graphic, anonymous q&a etc

>>799712
>they could use polls, more interactive graphic, anonymous q&a etc
i'd been thinking about this, but unlike those professors, i don't actually have a captive audience class that i'd be teaching too. these would just be me streaming and the vods would turn into youtube videos in the archives.

without actual "students" in the classes, i doubt i'd even get anyone watching to make interactive elements like that useful. plus, once the livestream is over and it just ends up as a regular video on my channel, that interactivity part is gone and anyone watching the video later would be missing out on it.

are there any study vtubers? i am not sure if its the right term or even if they are popular or not but i think that will a good start

>>799764
I think if you advertise in the right avenues you could find an audience. I only had one or two people actively talking in my chats both weeks so far but they were talking so it was nice to bounce off discussion with them

this was >>799811 meant for >>799764

>>799842
i'm might try a couple of streams just on my own, make sure i've got my materials and lesson plans in order.

>>799811
>>799884
don't really know what you mean by "study vtubers" i searched for "educational vtuber" on youtube but didn't really find any

>>799965
i saw them in some gook comic they just stream themselves studying i guess its not popular irl

>>800224
honestly sounds more like a cultural thing over in asia vs the west. lofi hip hop study girl already has that area kinda covered, i think.

how do i have confidence, bros?

>>802000
Alcohol, lots of it.

>>802000
Confidence is something you build by doing.
So start doing.

>>794492
You have a phone right? Plug that fucker into your PC and download Iriun and set up an new webcam server over usb.

>>802000
Dunno, whenever I try to record my voice I get so nervous I want to just dig a grave for myself, so I'm also looking for an answer to that.

>>787573
Which webcam do you guys reccomend for prprlive? Right now all i have is my laptop webcam

>>802700
anything will work as long as you have good lighting on your face. put a lightsource in front of your face to light up your eyes and mouth evenly, see if that helps before buying a webcam

Bros... How do i even get twitter followers

>>802959
i'd like to know as well..

>>803239
It's not fair bros. My tweet has 169 views... yet no one followed..

>>803343
what's even the follow rate for twitter views? 0.001%? something less? they've gotta watch your video, then click through to your channel, and hit subscribe.

>>803395
Pain peko

>>802959
when i started two weeks ago i just followed other vtubers and some of them just followed back
it might sound like ass to do but even just interacting in things like png drops and commenting on other tweets can get you noticed as well
i can't really speak for much though since i only have like 160 followers atm

Some useful advice from Tsunderia's manager regarding numbers and how the company is ran. Worth checking out, she doesn't sugarcoat things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufpOOLzIWSE

>>802700
I haven’t tested it yet because 2D model is being rigged but I grabbed the Logitech c920 it’s generally known as the best hd webcam at the price range. they do have a newer webcam out now but you’d be paying newer webcam prices.

>>804041
samefag but it’s also sold out on Logitech’s site (since 90% of people are using webcams daily now), check amazon and other usual suspects

>>803752
can't watch it now, but is there a typed up tl:dr or something i can read?

>>803752
time stamp anon or is the whole thing the stuff

Actually, how do you become less nervous when recording yourself? It's probably some kind of stage fright, I try to imagine that I'm talking to someone I know, but considering I have very few acquaintances in real life it's not helping much and the voice gets really stilted.

What's the best way to deal with sad donations/superchats? You know, the once that talk about how their grandpa died or something and demand your attention.
Is it too cold to just forbid those things? I feel like those sad donations can really ruin the mood in streams and are just really awkward to deal with, not just for vtubers but streamers in general. Some streamers who don't give a shit will just tell these people to fuck off, but if you're a vtuber who has to be like some perfect anime idol character you can't just act like that.

>>804638
"thank you for the superchat!" (move on)

>>804651
I guess donation alerts are a bad idea then? Especially if their text to speech donations
>X donated $100
>I'm dying of cancer and only have one week left ;_;
>Wow, cool! thanks for the 100 bucks!

>>804738
you could just be matter of fact about it just say something mundane like pic related. streamers and vtubers aren't their therapist, you're just an entertainer. if you read it and it's obviously a troll just thank 'em for the supa and move on.

>>804801
Do you think it might be a good idea to be upfront about it and jsut introduce a rule that forbids inserting personal drama into donations?

What does a live 2d rigger need from an artist? Like I have a reference sheet I made from images skattered on the internet but I'm wondering what I need to commission for the art?

>>804851
they're gonna do it anyway, you just gotta be on the ball about it. HoloID Reine makes it a point that each time she gets the first superchat of the stream, she thanks them, and will be reading them at the end of the stream. so that may give you the buffer time between them trying to garner a reaction from you and when you actually read it (or you can even just skip it during the reading at the end).

>>802959
I've gotten three in 5 days but all I've been doing is being active, responding to other tweets, and liking posts

>>802208
not the op but thanks anon

>>804884
>What does a live 2d rigger need from an artist? Like I have a reference sheet I made from images skattered on the internet but I'm wondering what I need to commission for the art?
I'm >>785629 this guy. I'm kinda splitting up the process into multiple steps, because I basically wanna take the cleanest, "this is what the character should look like" single picture to the L2D artist, rather than ask them to try to come up with a concept (and some L2D artists on Fiverr at least actually also have a side gig you have to order for character design, for the person I'm looking at it's literally another 100 bucks).
The way I figure, if it's that much anyways, and it's like a 2 week lead time, I'd rather just commission one of the people who've been doing reference sheets for peoples' D&D characters or anime OCs for years, have experience with it, and charge half that price and come with all the intricacies of designing (i.e. asking you for every little detail you can think of, giving you a free revision or two as part of their package, etc.)

You know, the more I learn about vtubing, the more I realise that it’s not that easy. The “hololive girls are autists just like us haha” thing seems more and more to be a meme. I mean, you need to either be funny, skilful, or knowledgeable to gain any sort of audience, and if you can’t do thIs IRL, how the fuck are you supposed to do it with an avatar? Of course, there is also the “networking” option, but that’s pretty much like the HR of vtubing.
In short, nothing’s different unless vtubing is suddenly the thing you are passionate for unlike your previous occupations. Maybe then you have a shot at it.

>>805778
Although I guess the only saving grace may be that the market is still not saturated to a point where it’s monopolised by big players like the conventional entertainment industry

>>805778
You need to have charisma

>>803752
tl:dr; male debuff too hard, don't bother

>>805778
this is the only thing I’ve been this passionate about and actually got the balls to go after. I hope my true passion shows through somehow.

>>805876
I doubt one can stand out and sustain subs on charisma alone. Although, it does work in social groups, so you have a point there I guess.

>>805778
Seems like a pretty spot-on assessment. Basically, if you don't have
>The humor, prepared OR improvisational, to be a stand up comic
>The quality of voice to be a radio host or web series host
>The ability to sing at at least a paid cover band level
>Expertise in some game or genre of games
And a couple other specific qualities I can't think of, and/or a combination of any of these, vtubing isn't gonna magically solve your issues. If you lack charisma as >>805841 said in any of these or other categories of entertainment industry, you probably won't get very far. Being a boring, monotonous person whose only schtick is "well uh I play [weird sub-genre] of games on my streams, no one else does!" won't build an audience or drive retainment.

>>805959
Just don't fall for "just grind it" meme. If you really are passionate about it, get ready to do your research and analyse your performance. Nonetheless, I wish you the best of luck, ganbatte and do your best.

>>806026
>I doubt one can stand out and sustain subs on charisma alone
Retention is perhaps most driven by charisma, 'the fuck you mean? There's a reason why zatsudan/supachat reading streams get just as much traction as gameplay or songs or whatever else. People watch the chuuba just to soak up their personality and them being themselves, or very generously to a counterargument at least the character they play

>>806073
Yeah, definitely not something to quit the day job over any time soon.

Like, I got really excited that maybe this could be a way to meet people and get a sense of belonging, and if I play the game right, maybe even get big and earn some money, but honestly, it's just the same challenge as I face with my regular ass employment. And at least I'm already qualified enough for that to get hired, so maybe I should just whole-ass that instead of half-assing two entirely different things in life.

>>806144
Yeah, but if all you have is a personality, how are you going to find that initial audience?
Although to be fair, I saw this idea that one could stream games with few streamers and lots of viewers, and so people will come just because there is noone else.

But anyway, if I'm just "me" for 2 hours on a recording, it's not different from hanging out with real people.
Typing all this kinda made me realise that the "just be yourself" is not a meme advice and thats sorta how things actually work I guess.

>>806234
I myself am currently about a year out from getting out of the Navy, I'm off my deployment cycle so I'm just rocking a cushy low-demand shore duty job rn.

As my future prospects are basically to get out and simply continue to do the same job I'm doing (electronics technician) but in the civilian sector, it's not like I'm giving up a particularly strong career, nor one that really requires a huge amount of time and effort.

Plus at the least, all my different setsnof friends (unprompted-ly) have remarked, since I was in high school a decade ago, through college, and through my time in, that I'm pretty funny, for what that's worth. That three different sets of people (high schoolers, uni students, coworkers) have all remarked on it without me even fishing for it makes me think maybe it's worth trying. I dunno. If not this chuubing gig, I have considered doing standup at open mic nights at local clubs (well, before the Coof ofc)

>>806341
Content builds initial engagement, sure.
But chat/charisma maintains engagement.
If you get big because you made a single funny joke in a stream and it goes viral on some clipper channel, sure, people might flock to your stream to see if you're consistently funny and meme-worthy, but if that was one minute out of a 180 minute stream with minimal engagement and commentary, and it was boring when you DO pipe up, no one will stick around.

>>806451
Well, I dunno, electronics technician sound like a good stable career choice, I'd hold onto it if I were you.
But yeah, if people found you funny, I'd take that as an encouragement, so maybe you should try it.

I myself am a filthy lil code monkey, but it pays the bills and has good prospects. The only reason I looked into vtubing was because I talk to myself for hours anyway and wanted to try drawing and singing, and this schtick seems to provide an excuse for all three and more.

>>806516
It seems we are in agreement, really.

Summary of the Marshmallow and Metrics video from Tsunderia (in no particular order)

- female buff, male debuff stronk
- collabs are ALWAYS debuffs
- play popular games to get algorithm buff
- advertise older, more younger fans, but the older (late 20s - early 30s) are the ones who actually pay

- facebook is currently untapped, might be able to break in there
- don't advertise on twitter, it's an insular community of people, they don't translate to profits
- don't chase follower counts, they don't translate to profit

- merch is incredibly risky, don't do it
- keep profits in mind, low inputs (female vtuber gaming streams) for high returns
- don't try to emulate jp vtubers, the jp vtuber field is already bloated, why are you trying to emulate that?

>>806651
Thanks for that, anon, saved me some time.

>>787126
Check to make sure your fandom of choice isn't a bunch of spergs about people that branch out. Older games and series run into that problem a lot, and it results in a lot of very good content creators either resentful of their fanbase or forced to basically start over from zero due to alienating their cancerous fans and getting a bad rap from it.

oh, forgot to add, treat streaming as a job, if you're not making $20 per hour of stream (or whatever min wage is where you live), you're losing money.

>>806651
>collabs are always debuffs
Can you elaborate on that? I would’ve thought collabs were great for increasing popularity.

>>806734
she didn't really elaborate on it. just dropped it in passing. exception is if you're already in a company and collabing within the co.

https://youtu.be/ufpOOLzIWSE?t=2994

>>806734
>>806790
If I had to guess, it's "who the fuck is this" thinking, like you may have thought in big Among Us collabs recently.
Collabs can also generate a lot of negative drama or expectations of future collabs. Think about how many narratives there are even just talking about collabs in regards to HoloEN. Now imagine that instead of HoloEN, it's somebody that will not survive a single bad rumor about them.

>>806916
I'd actually think it's because it kills that interaction with chat. Your chuuba isn't even responding with you because they're having fun playing in the collab with each other. Especially if it's outside the agency.

>>807032
That's true. I wonder if collabs are better done in pre-recorded content, not regular streams? You could even potentially save an awkward collab with good editing.

the real question is how the fuck you get over the male debuff?

>>807312
be good enough at something that someone would pay you. Or be funny

>>807332
that's just being a good streamer, what's that gotta do with overcoming the debuff?

>>797304
Look up 3710M

>>804638
In PR work, they teach you that the way to handle something that breaks your flow is really simple.
1. Acknowledge
2. Sympathy
3. Redirect

So for your example, the correct response is "Thank you for your superchat! I'm really sorry to hear that you're going through that. I hope that I can cheer you up a little!"

You thank them for the superchat. You express sympathy--which you hopefully mean sincerely, because obviously it sucks--but then you move right back onto the topic at hand and continue.

This is only for general streams, though. If you have space to talk about it (i.e., a superchat reading stream) you should feel free to switch the tone around, address it in a little more detail, and then switch it back.
Just remember that you aren't a therapist or anything, so don't give affirmative advice. For example, instead of saying "Do X, Y, Z" say "I found that X, Y, Z helped me in (similar situation)."
You don't want to be liable for giving bad advice, so speaking carefully from your own perspective is important. Anything beyond that, you just have to trust your viewers to find the useful parts of your experience and apply them in their own lives.

Good luck fren.

>>807449
Male debuff is too hard to overcome. You just have to be legitimately that good and hope you get a lucky break.

>>807312
I don't know why anyone would want to be a vtuber as a male, personally. You would have better luck using an actual cam or doing gameplay videos.
Even if you REALLY liked vtubing, you have more viable options like doing clips or fanart.

I'm planning to use a live2d model just in place of a regular avatar for traditional youtube videos and leaving steaming as an afterthought

Is there a reason more people don't go this route? Putting out regular content and having the algorithm on your side seems like a better gameplan than diving head first into the high quantity low demand ocean that is male vtubers

>>806651
Are there vtubers who stream on facebook? Or is this more about advertising

People talk about "male debuff" a lot, but it's baseless. The truth is, most western male vtubers are just not good.

It's not that they're male. It's that they aren't very good performers.

>>808187
the biggest group that still uses Facebook besides boomers is SEA they even have their fan pages there for discussion over places like reddit. That group latches onto things since no one really panders to them I think however I don’t think anyone is going to go out of their way to go to Facebook for a stream most people have deleted theirs by now anyway

>>808138
cheaper and easier to go the png rantsona style like TheOddOnesOut or doing quick scenes like JaidenAnimations. the benefit is also being able to record audio separately and with multiple cuts instead of having to try and do the whole thing in one take with a live2D model.

>>808227
>explain kuzuha

Except his apex plays he has nothing. I mean he stays totally quiet for 30 minutes of inventory sorting in Tarkov, just to get killed on the first two persons he encounter yet pulls bigger numbers than everyone else.

>>808357
People agressively cut live recordings all the time. I can't imagine it would be much more jarring on a live 2d model

>>808433
then refer back to the "cheaper and easier" part

>>808227
>People talk about "male debuff" a lot, but it's baseless.
>source: trust me, i haven't even debut'd yet

>>809414
"I can't do it, the game isn't fair" is such loser mentality. If you want to plan for failure, feel free to plan for failure.
That'll be exactly what you get.

Good luck, friend.

>>809628
i'd rather take the opinions of someone in an indie agency with actual months of data than some anon's hopeless delusion of "nah, you just gotta git gud" it's a nice cop out for you to look at the vtubers who do it right but never succeed and just brush it aside as "well they just weren't that good"

>>809628
You're (apparently intentiy) misrepresenting his point. Or you don't understand it.
A "debuff" does not mean guaranteed failure, and no one ever said it did. However, it is the fucking height of naivete to claim, as you did, that the only reason male Vtubers aren't big is because
>most western male vtubers are just not good.
The fact that male chuubas across all markets, including JP itself, have a bell curve of viewership and engagement far below that of females should be self-evident. Regardless of their "quality".

If I had to take wild ass armchair analysis guess, I'd think it's something like
>Dudes and chicks will both watch slice of life animes starring females who just talk, or get into comedic situations, etc.
>There aren't nearly as many SoL anime with male protags, and where there are, they're usually vastly overshadowed by female co-protags/deuteragonists
As chuubas are essentially a real-time, interactive anime character, the fact that female characters tend to be favored in a more casual setting correlates with female chuubas proportional engagement buff. And for the most part, unless you're a REALLY good comedic character, most popular male characters in anime are popular because they're the dudes who use that one move, or control that one superpower, or beat the bad guys. As chuubas don't really get animated fight scenes, it's hard to make a male as appealing for the format of "just talking" as females can be. It's not impossible, but people will undeniably be engaged with all but the most boring, uncharismatic, unappealing-visually female character, in which case they are at the same level as shitty male tubers; whereas not even a god-tier art design can help a male if he doesn't have charisma out the ass. A female can get away with being "average" because then you get people going "awww it's so cute and endearing cuz they're like a girl next door!"

jusagi, just leave bro

Would it be bad form to do test streams in my avatar? Would it ruin the impact of a debut stream or should I even bother with something like that and just start streaming?

>>811073
just do a private or unlisted stream on youtube

>>811073
I promise nobody is going to notice. Just don't archive it

>>811073
If you do a private test stream on youtube literally nobody will know, and if you do a test stream on twitch with 0 notice anywhere nobody will ever see it.

Would uploading a handful of videos about wildly different topics with the intention of picking the most successful to do as a side project to streaming be considered bad

>>811073
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to see it happened, did it really happen?

>>811545
probably not

>>811090
>>811499
>>811526
>>811721
Thanks brehs, wish me luck.

>>811073
It... depends.
On Twitch it's fine.
On YT, I'd do it on a totally separate account. The YT algo is cumulative, and seeing a 0 viewer private stream might cause the algo to say "Oh, might as well not bother showing this to anyone."

I'm not 100% sure that'd happen, but at your own risk.

What do you guys think about a vtuber that reviews onaholes on stream?

>>815190
I'd say, expect a small bump as weebs share it as a funny quirky thing, then infinite stagnation since it's only funny once.

>>815190
male debuff will make you seem like a creep unless you've actually worked in a sex shop before, cleaned up the messes left in stalls, and have become jaded at the idea of sex toys. that's the only way you'll be able to deliver reviews in a way people will listen. otherwise, you'll be giggling to yourself and it just becomes creepy as fuck.

>>815190
Really bad idea and extremely creepy

>>808227
I know this is bait but I worry about this dissuading people anyway.

Saying Male Debuff doesn't exist is like saying demographics and metrics aren't real. The core demographic and tastes of people consuming V-tuber media is first and foremost men. Those men are the same people obsessing over anime women. Not anime men, anime women.

Of course males will have a harder time, they're working with a demographic that isn't interested in them as much as female counterparts.

>b-b-b-but popular niji males

Yeah and for the most part their content goes above and beyond even most of the female members as far as their chat-interaction based content goes. It's media that isn't exclusively funny to "omg shes so kawaii" weebs. That's the type of content male v-tubers need to make. They need to realize the "vtuber audience" isn't interested in them and shoot for content that's easier for the wider audience to consume. Don't ignore it but don't depend on it either

>>819322
>Saying Male Debuff doesn't exist is like saying demographics and metrics aren't real.

This. Ask yourself how many male vtubers YOU watch

>>820081
Yeah, besides friends I want to support or help out with chat interaction, I only watch two males, the rest are all female. Male vtubers ALSO tend to suck at content creation which i mentioned in another thread, but that's not the sole reason. There's plenty of successful girls (indie and pro) with shitty content.

How big of a buff would creating original music be to a male chuuba in your opinions?
I'm thinking of getting some music professionally produced and perhaps even dropping a whole EP soon if I have the time, though I haven't really ever made music before so can't say it would be guaranteed to be good, I just wanna get stuff out there

>>821423
pretty big

>>821423
Having a niche is a good thing 100 percent of the time

>>821423
would recommend you do covers first, but if you can bust out an original and keep the momentum going, that's be one hell of an original take as a vtuber. sounds like a lot of work, but if you can pull it off, more power to you.

>>771591
>>776275
>discord with a bunch of 4chan TBAs
no thanks. Start streaming and network on twitter like everyone else

>>819322
>>820081
I am not, and was never, suggesting that there aren't advantages and disadvantages.

I'm saying that the problem isn't male vs female. That is a simplistic way to look at it.

The difference is gendered, but not the way you're assuming. The problem is that women, on average, have better social sensibilities that translate well to streaming content when you remove the physical shortcuts that cause lazy women to do well. Therefore, the top few % of women who make waves will be, on average, larger than the top % of men who do well by a little bit. At the small sample sizes we're looking at here, the difference looks huge.
There are tons of women who aren't in those top % of performing quality who don't make it either, after all. They aren't getting magical boosts just by being female... because they just aren't very good.

Blaming the audience and accusing them of being, effectively, sexist is stupid projection. The general audience has no problem with male Vtubers, they just want to be entertained.

The small minority of weirdos who want an unhealthy and sad parasocial pseudo-relationship with vtubers are the only ones who reject male vtubers out of hand. If you think that's the norm, you're probably just projecting hard.

Besides, this is a hopeful message people should be happy to hear. You aren't being discriminated against! The disadvantage can be overcome if you just work a little harder! People don't hate you for the circumstances of your birth!

Honestly, you dorks will do anything possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, I swear.

>>822080
It's not like people are suggesting it's a magical perfect networking opportunity or whatever. It's just a nice way to make friends who are interested in the same things. You think you're too good for other people or something?

>>823213
this

never thought i'd lived to see the day toxic positivity made its way to 4chan, but here we are

>>823213
I agree. People fail to realise that streaming and vtubing is a job, and if you don’t put in the work, you won’t get anywhere. So it’s easier to blame luck or talent or debuff or whatever than to face up reality. Right now, if the male streamers are failing, it’s because they are boring unmotivated NEETs IRL.
It doesn’t fucking matter who you are. It doesn’t matter what games you stream, even, if your entertainment game is strong.

>>823412
I'll wear this as a badge of honor.

>>823213
>>823365
>>823490
About the only common consensus we have here is "you need to be a good content creator". Okay? Sure, I agree?
>I'm saying that the problem isn't male vs female. That is a simplistic way to look at it.
But it's true. Provably so. Like whoever it was ITT (or maybe it was the OTHER thread bitching about this same topic) that pointed out that if we ignore or cut out the 2d aspect, as one would need to, there are infinitely many more live/3d males who already have a significant foothold in the market. The idea of a "cool/funny gamer bro you watch and 'hang out with'" or "gimmicky guy who does silly/glitchy stuff with his games or gets into ridiculous online situations in multiplayer" has been done to death by innumerable youtubers over the past decade. The female chuubas get a buff because they can be cool/funny gamers (which was already rare enough), BUT also are no longer weighed down by the expectation that any girl streaming has to be a hot Twitch thot. So now, whereas you had a very precise needle of "attractive but also charismatic" that a female had to reach, chuubing removed the attractive part being necessary. There are some ugly-ass dudes who are renowned content creators, though, and like I said, they've been in the market for YEARS. The ONLY advantage offered by chuubing, artificial physical attractivity, was always insignificant to males compared to females anyways.
>The general audience has no problem with male Vtubers, they just want to be entertained.
Yes, and they can get entertained by any of the real-face male content creators who've been around forever. Or even faceless entities like... I don't fucking know, Sseth, or Mandalore, or even RTGaming as a wildcard example of someone more broadly appealing to the normalfag crowd. They wouldn't be any better served by vtubing, they're just entertaining people in general. Hence people saying "do your charisma reps".
>People don't hate you for the circumstances of your birth!
Why the fuck are you insisting on making this political? No one said shit about it being "men haters". Nobody 'hates' male chuubas. There's just nothing justifying watching them over a 3d male tuber. Whereas with female chuubas, the fact that not-conventionally-attractive women who are smart/funny/charismatic are able to leverage it leads to it largely being their market.
All else being equal, if vtubing had existed from day one, sure, fine, you might see more parity. As it stands, it's basically a fill-in of all the chicks who are engaging content creators but always 'disappointed' retarded primal-brained consoomers by not having big tits or a pretty face.
I think the largest failing here in your assessment is that, yes, we all agree a male has to be charismatic and engaging, and so does a female. But that's the bottom line. Women have an extra boundary layer of needing to be easy on the eyes. Claim it's bullshit all you want, and I'll show you the list of all the GAMER GRRRRLS on Twitch, you can tell me what common traits they share. Since vtubing allows them to escape the aesthetic debuff, they are misperceived as 'dominating' the market, when in reality you're analyzing two separate scales
>Youtube content creator in general
and
>Vtubing content creators
The former was devoid of meaningful females, which led to a massive number of males dominating it. The latter is now filling in with females who couldn't make it in the former. And sure, examples of shitty 'boring vtuber who is female' exist, but so do thousands of examples of 'boring youtuber, period, who is male'.

>>823582
>The idea of a "cool/funny gamer bro you watch and 'hang out with'" or "gimmicky guy who does silly/glitchy stuff with his games or gets into ridiculous online situations in multiplayer" has been done to death by innumerable youtubers over the past decade.

this is really the core of it. all the advice given in this thread would have worked back in 2010. but it's 2021 now. streaming has been refined and just being a "bro" is not enough. it's the bare minimum.

anyone saying shit like pic related is a fucking millennial who doesn't know what's going on but want to try and fit in with the hip kids.

>>823582
You seem really angry about opinions on the internet.
Have you considered taking the stick out?

>give differing opinions
>you seem really angry
/auds/ was a mistake

>>823745
>freaks out about the obvious fact that dudes face a debuff if they insist on trying to become vtubers as opposed to just generally good content creators period and writes >>823213 this gay fucking "YOU JUST GOTTA BELIEVE" reddit novel
>projects being upset onto me
k

we're getting close to the 300 post limit, but i don't feel like staying up to make an OP if redditors are gonna keep shitting up these threads with their dumbfuck "You just gotta believe!" and talking! with! all! exclamation! marks! because! everything! is! a! fucking! MLP! episode!

was good while it lasted, but /auds/ is fucking dead as long these leeches are here.

>>823795
Lie to me all you want. Lie to others, but you can't lie to yourself. You're just not good enough and you know it.
Worse, you're wasting time making up excuses for how unfair it all is instead of actually improving.

I'm rejecting the entire framing of your weak argument. You'll just have to find some way to cope.

Males will always look like they get a debuff when it comes to content creation, but that's because so many of them are just lazy and that there's also a larger number of them trying compared to girls. Do you guys have any idea how many men try to follow in the footsteps of their favorite youtube stars?
The only difference between those and v-tubers are that v-tubers tend to lock themselves down into a structure that's been mostly curated by corporate level v-tubers, but they also have much easier access to networks with other v-tubers. You're not going to find some kind of unified discord server for cooking channel hosts.

>>823888
>You're just not good enough
this is religious televangelist levels of faith delusion
>you just gotta believe!
>if you don't succeed, you're just bad
>if you don't wanna be bad, just believe harder!

>>823873
>your opinion is different than mine so you're a leech
I'm not on either side but remember this the next time someone's shilling a discord. You don't want anything about your tuber persona to have a direct link to this place.

>>823942
Nice strawman.

I'm saying put in the work instead of whining online that it's a tough racket and you never had a chance.

You're all just acting like fuckin vtweeters. Buncha do-nothing slackers who want clout for nothing.

how nerfed are male chances of success?

>>824021
You're starting a little behind in some sense. You need to learn a lot of new habits in order to be an actual, good entertainer.

On the flipside though, if you learn those habits you'll have an edge by being sort of a unicorn: A decent male Vtuber.

It's a mixed bag, if you ask me. Extra effort, but it probably pays you back longer-term.

>>824115
and i'm guessing having a full-time, somewhat fun career job is a humongous crux i might have to consider removing?

>>823888
>Lie to me all you want. Lie to others, but you can't lie to yourself. You're just not good enough and you know it.
bruh
how the fuck are you going REEEE STRAWMAN when you're literally ignoring the fact that you're trying to now argue that I... disagreed with my own point? That you need to actually be a good content creator? You done sperging, or you need a few more minutes?

>>824131
Nah, not at all.
I firmly believe in never giving up your day job, since that stability will give you the freedom to take creative risks in streaming.
Playing it safe in streaming is required when it's your primary income, but playing it safe is also a recipe for failure.

>>815190
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs24RJ3wS1lIGOsQAsw_HYg
be this guy but as a vtuber
seems like a great idea as long as you can be as comedic as him
dont listen to the 3 twitter tourists that have literally no idea what the fuck they are talking about

Bump

In your opinion, from this list of branch, which one appeals you the most and why?
-Hololive JP/ID/EN
-Holostars
-Nijisanji JP/ID/KR/EN (ex-IN)

>>828256
Hololive for its sheer variety and production quality. I think most people would say the same

>>828368
Same but I hate how they made everyone think they have to be an idol to be a vtuber

>>828256
Nijisanji JP/ID

I frequently watch Hololive more often, but Nijisanji defintely seem like they're at least somewhat co-operative and lax on restrictions. Also it'd feel less intimidating to be a part of, and not being as much of a fan of Nijisanji as I am Hololive, I feel like I'd be less likely to drop spaghetti talking to the ID Nijis then, say, Moona or Ollie. Also if memory serves me right, Nijisanji also has capcom and konami permissions, which would be perfect for the games I want to play.

>>829481
I wanna stream the worst and simultaneously the best METAL GEAR SOLID they ever produce: METAL GEAR SOLID: SNAKE EATER 3D

VSeeFace is free, which is immediately suspicious. How do these people make money, or are they just selling your processors to Uzbekistani Warlords to power their bitcoin mining operation?

>>828256
Hololive for sure. They exude a family like vibe and their top performing members provide the much needed collabs to boost those that aren't.
Nijisanji for me has too many cliques. It feels very restrictive in that you are pressured to perform well before given a chance to join events that would lead to higher exposure. Their events are very top heavy, it's always the same faces every time. If you're a newbie, you better have good numbers or else you risk getting buried down there.

>>820081
>Ask yourself how many male vtubers YOU watch
To be fair, quite a lot.
And that's beside the Nijisanji males.
I'm interested in a few niches like Mahjong or MTG Arena which tend to attract males as players, either with male avatars or going babiniku. Also, even the Babiniku still focus on what's happening on screen instead of squealing like they're the caricature of a girl that most actual women pretend to be when streaming which makes it unbearable to anyone actually wanting to watch the game.
Literally the only female Mahjong players I watch are not Vtubers, because they talk like normal people.
That said, most of them are small, but they're all indies and none of them have been streaming for longer than 4 months either.

>>824131
Never give up your day job until your online entertainer career can pay the bills for a minimum of 6 months, maybe one year, to see if you're going to be able to handle the seasonal fluctuations in income that happens.
Pretty much everyone who went full time says that they wish they waited a bit for tgose reasons.

>>828256
Nijisanji - people there have all sorts of different talents and it lets people leverage them in ways other won't. You'll never have a storyteller like Tsukino Mito in any other agency, or Chaika doing Chaika things, for that matter. Also, far less restrictions on content or who they may collab with - unless they have an asshole for a manager, they're ultimately free to do whatever they want (as shown by Maimoto's original collab with Subaru, or the crazy antics of Fumino Tamaki) and so far only two insteances of bitch management seem to have been made public (Naruse Naru manager who forced a new ugly Live2d on him lowered his appeal for a year until they finally allowed him to go back to his old one, the Meiro/Roa drama).

>>830081
It started a personal project from hobbists to hobbists, now they accept donations and technology of face recognition he made for it is being incorporated in VTube Studio to be used with non-iPhone cameras. So they're making money out of that, it seems.

>>830133
> before given a chance to join events that would lead to higher exposure
It doesn't take much, really.
They still can join all sorts of online events if they want - from the Mario Kart cup, rock-paper-scissors tournament, the Minecraft festivals and others. The offline ones though require having a 3d model, and they're not making the investment in someone who is not pulling their weight - specially when they have so many people to handle.
Also keep in mind no one is forced to take part in collabs and stuff - Ars is a complete introvert and despite having a big audience took forever to really engage in online collabs, let alone being comfortable with having a 3d debut. Meanwhile Hayato got his 3d and debuted with a fucking rock concert a little over 1 year after his debut.
The thing is there are plenty of people in Nijisanji who take it as a part-time thing and they don't have much personal investment in it, so their growth is slow - they also don't engage very much. Fumino Tamaki for example spent like two years taking stuff lightly until last year when she just started streaming more regularly and engaging with others, or; Sorahoshi Kirame, who for the longest time didn't have the meanst to stream at home and only streamed on weekeds when she went to Ichikara's office to used their computers - and even know mostly only streams on weekends and holidays because she's busy with school.

Does anyone have any examples of decent introduction/advertisement videos? The ones you'd have play automatically when people visit your channel. I'm trying to figure out what people like to know right off the bat about their chuubers, especially the ones that aren't backed by a big brand. I'm sure it's not a critically important thing, but it's still something you'd want to have when making a channel, right?

I'd like to get a lil into the JP side of things and make some chuuba related friends there
Are there any hashtags indie JPs like to use a lot, debut tags etc? Perhaps certain places online, or even discords to look out for?

>>831273
Just search the usual tags then follow the rabbit hole.

>>820081
I'm gay, so I primarily watch males.

Would a Vargskelethor/Jerma style streamer work as a vtuber? I just want to shitpost while playing weird games

>>821423
People love original content, especially if it is well executed.

>>831640
Yes but you need the charisma for it

>>823939
>You're not going to find some kind of unified discord server for cooking channel hosts.
The critical information... lacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADpylb8Gdo
how much would it cost to get a live2d rigging done just for the tiktoks

>>830081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQ8DF87I5I

>>832497
it’s not worth spending $1000+ on a live2D for tiktoks, just vroid and mmd if you want to meme

>>832497
That's a custom animation, not a rig. You would be spending a lot of money for each tik tok

>>832858
>>832858
>>832858

>>828256
nijisanji jp, they actually feel alive