/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Cultural Appropriation

It's the "in" thing of fall 2020 but it's taken everyone 6-12 months to hop on board after the boom has cooled.

its called trend hopping anon

>>7640303
because it's an easy way to stream and connect with your audience + grow, without having a facecam - which can lead to more harassment, anxiety etc.

Plus it's still kind of a big fad.

It's fun

Free money if you're a woman
Just put your model there and play games as usual while getting carried by anime appeal

>>7640344
If people are trend hoping why did Cover get so few applicants for HoloEN2? I heard they only got 8000.

>>7640380
because theyre too busy becoming retarded indies like this shit. literally never heard of this bitch and she wants to become a 2view

>>7640303
I don't care if everyone and their mom becomes a vtuber but it goes without saying that this "I will deign to give you the privilege of looking upon my avatar only once you give me a 6 digit follower count" shit is pure pretentious narcissistic scummy fucking faggot retard shithead behavior. I fucking despise these people.

>>7640380
>I heard they only got 8000.
proofs?

>>7640303
I actually like her covers

>>7640303
Am I supposed to know who that is?

>>7640447
It's me, it's me, it's DDP

>Indie
>around 300 consecutive viewers
>faggot friendly
>make 55k in one night

>Doctor
>Studies a lot for a decade
>Debt Debt Debt
>Struggles to find a job

Tell me anon, which one would you choose?

>>7640380
it was 80,000 retard

It's basically free money. You can be ugly as sin and still make fat bank so long as your avatar is cute.

>>7640376
Not to mention hitting the wall won't keep the money from coming in.

>>7640303
Why not? The end goal of this industry is virtualization of the human race. One day all the anons here will also be VTubers.

>>7640409
Lee and Lie does english anime music covers and has 1.83m subs. Wouldn't be surprised is she tried out for Iyrs and now is just going indie.

Not shocked leeandlie is doing it.
It's a great way for someone with her existing following to monetise.

>>7640338
Also this.
>>7640351
And this

>>7640487
God i hate this bitch(pun intendeed) she's what /vt/ thinks vshoujo is. Every clip i have seen of her has been painfully unfunny.

>>7640409
You live under a fucking rock if you've never even heard of AmaLee before, she's one of the few people out there who'd stand to lose from joining Cover

>>7640487
I don't mind Taiga. He may be a disgusting degenerate but he's funny at times.

>>7640618
Yeah if Cover was smart they'd have tried to make a move.
But for it to be worth it for her they'd have to agree to it being a partnership rather than an outright hire. Meaning she'd work under her own name/image.

>>7640618
wait I only know Amalee casually from english song covers over the last decade or so. When did she become a streamer?

>>7640338
When it costs about 5 grand for a good PC rig, good looking model and decent rigging, yeah it can take that long.

>>7640618
huh? as someone who knows who she is, bitch is an anime cover singer, she's not that famous

>>7640702
Famous enough to have a wikipedia page

>>7640749
CWC doesn't have a Wikipedia page. I don't think having one is a sign of fame.
All it takes is one mention from an established media source to create one without it getting pruned.

>>7640749
so not very famous, my point still stands

>>7640808
She's also a VA, which puts her firmly above pretty much any other vsinger you can think of.

>>7640618
literally who

>>7640618
You sure you're not the one living under a rock? Nobody in Japan or the anime community knows who she is outside of dub watchers since she's only known for making English covers of anime songs and dub voice acting work. Way to out yourself as a fake weeb, fag.

>>7640618
t. AmaLee

>>7640303
Because it's fun, especially for content creators who alread have OCs who get to be their own "character"

>>7640618
Lmao this guy thinks that we're supposed to know all the literally who baka
It's not people living under rocks, it's you being a nerd fr

>>7640618
Feel free to post her name on /a/ and see if you got anyone even knowing about her songs let alone her name, she's only known by hardcore dubfags

>>7640409
>i've never heard of her
>she's gets more vid views than any of your Oshis

You live in a bubble of your own interests.

>>7640303
You can stream without making yourself presentable and wear comfy ass clothes.
Not to mention for girls not having to do their makeup.

Because the amount of young losers who can't get a girlfriend keeps getting larger and larger and they all want a slice of that disposable income.
This board is pathetic.

>>7640575
>>7640927
subs =/= view count
look at any old school youtube channel that used to be omega popular, they barely can rake in 10k views on a good day.

>>7640303
western whores trying to make easy money trend hopping?

I reckon we're gonna see a lot of these youtube singers making the shift to vtubers.
Even camicat has started streaming videogames she plays with her friends. Bet you good money a month or so down the line she unveils a vtuber model.

>>7640808
>CWC doesn't have a Wikipedia page
Yeah but he has his own autistic wiki with hundreds of articles

Sodapoppin has a female vtuber model, doesn't change his voice, everyone knows it's him, and he's still raking in more donos than he did before. That should tell you all you need to know about wearing an anime girl's face.

>>7641004
140k average views across her last 12 vids is pretty good, even if it's all just song cover. She's just not the content most people her would consume.

>>7640303
You get to RP as some cool character without the need to show your face, and for girls is amazing to finally get some popularity without being a titty streamer or people making ''thick'' compilations everytime you get up from the chair

>>7641047
Soda stopped using the model 2 days after he got it because the iPhone in his face was annoying. I've watched him before, and he isn't raking in "more donos". I'm guessing you're parroting what you heard from another anon or twitter, but that's entirely bullshit.

>>7641043
When he goes up before the supreme court to try and dodge the incest charge on the grounds that he's a woman now.
Then he'll have a wikipedia article. Worse he'll be immortalised as a key figure in a supreme court case that'll be studied by future lawyers and judges for decades to come perhaps even centuries if we're really unlucky.

>>7641075
Imagine defending a male.

She should've applied to vsinger.

>>7641143
Maybe she did and the current IRyS beat her out.

>>7641119
Defending what? The dude's a millionaire and one of the most iconic streamers on the platform, his model has nothing to do with it

>>7640303

>>7640303
>Why is everyone becoming a Vtuber
Because they think it's highly profitable and requires little effort. They're wrong and stupid of course. A year from now Twitter is going to be littered with failed vtubers crying about how the vtuber industry is "evil" because they were too lazy and talentless to make it.

>>7640927
She's a VA with online presence for more than a decade, so of course she would would get more views (I just checked and she has almost 300 videos and with about 850 million total views). You can put up all of that and I am still willing to bet money most of Hololive is actually more recognizable/famous than she is.

>>7641015
She's not even the first, Bao was originally Hikaru Station and rebranded her channel into the whale, and Selphius got an avatar for streaming

>>7641171
I doubt it personally.
She's got enough following and makes enough money off her existing work that it's highly debatable if joining Cover would be beneficial for her.
I don't think Cover wants people with that kind of existing presence, rather they want people who are "grateful for the opportunity" and thus easier to control and keep under their thumb.

Someone who has already done well for themselves and monetised it successfully? Harder to control.

>>7641201
i think the way they're marketed are so different that it's not really comparable. Holos are marketed as individual characters and work to build a cult of personality for people to follow and engage with.

She's a VA/Singer that sings songs online.

>>7640303
Most weeb girls realized its a good way to get money out of weeb guys while having fun

>>7641199
It's already like that. There are hundreds of vtubers who failed or set a debut date but just never started because they couldn't drum up interest. These people bitch and moan like Glengarry Glen Ross every day.

>>7640303
we gotta gatekeep this shit from all the trendhoppers, or next thing you know they`ll be demanding for every kind of minority representation at the top of the industry

>>7641367
Everyone vtubing after Kizuna Ai is a fucking trend hopper, they're doing it for the money and internet fame.

>>7641171
Isn't Lee busy with her non-singing works?
Even after she becomes a chuuba, I don't think she'll stream as often as IRyS or Mori.

>>7640749
You're saying that like it's a bar for quality. I know you watch videos of people reading from wikipedia to get your information but wikipedia is not a source. It's an aggregate close to rotten tomatoes and easily manipulated. I still can't believe people take wikipedia seriously when even when I was in high school many, many years ago, they said not to cite wikipedia as a source for the obvious reason that its a site designed to be changed on a whim by the people editing it each day. I think my professor would be sad to see people learning from people who use wikipedia as their source of all knowledge.

>>7641367
vtweeters already exist anon. we're too late.

>>7641049
>even if it's all just song cover
Anon, music always have higher view count, because people tend to listen to it multiple times and on repeat. If EVEN HER COVERS have only 140k views on average she's pretty much just a minor niche e-celeb.that's still a lot more that most indies or even some corpos have though

>>7641367
>we gotta gatekeep this shit from all the trendhoppers
how?

>>7641440
If you want to get technical, this was the first vtuber, not Kizuna Ai.

>>7641201
>You can put up all of that and I am still willing to bet money most of Hololive is actually more recognizable/famous than she is
You only say that because vtubers are the hottest shit right now. When anime covers were ar their height she had a lot of following. However I agree she hasn't been relevant for some time.

>>7641472
>they said not to cite wikipedia as a source
I just recently graduated college and they reiterate this in every fucking class because there's too many retards out there who won't give up on it. I swear every few days I see some moron on Twitter post a 10 tweet long rant about how Wikipedia should be allowed as a source and that. The ban is done sort of discrimination

>>7640303
I Understand the trend hopping i just don't understand doing it when you are such a public figure like Leandlie for example, her face is pretty well documented

>>7641253
That's the whole point I am trying to make to the anon I am replying to, when he is implying that she is nothing more than "maybe famous". The only reason I recognized her was when I read the name "AmaLee" in the thread, and that's only because I came across her via Sawano Hiroyuki because I'm not particularly into utaites in the first place.

>>7641448
Well sure, but if she landed a spot in hololive, she'd have to change up her entire schedule. She'd probably become very scarce on leeandlie for a few years.

>>7641550

ugly Pixar shit doesn't count

>>7641472
>>7641575
Honestly i don't even understand what the problem is, if you want to use Wikipedia that badly just go to the links Wikipedia itself sites as sources and put those instead, that way your teachers would never find out where you even got them from

>>7641682
You not liking it doesn't detract from the truth.

>>7640853
You mean in popularity?

>>7641777
Success. Definitely not popularity.

>>7641709
Most people that use Wikipedia as a source won't even bother going to the sources section, never mind getting them to click through to verify said information. This is veering way off-topic now though.

>>7640303
japanese utaites became vtubers so of course english ones would also, they already had an anime character as their identity so vtubing is just an evolution of that.

Because simps are throwing millions of dollars at them and people like millions of dollars.

>>7640380
>I heard they only got 8000
Source: My ass

>>7640303
Oh good another basic bitch cover artist with a passable voice tries to trend hop into an entirely different medium of entertainment

She'll probably still break even too because she has a "nice voice" rather than particularly being interesting or even interesting musically

>>7640380
You heard a rumor, they do not release their numbers.

>>7641507
Paste the hololive loli shota copilation image, it makes wonders

>>7640618
More like you're living in an insignificant bubble

>>7640351
Except when you're Hololive. Sad that Holo is reclining while everyone is inclining to the moon. This might be the year that everyone will start to forget about Holo and connect Vtubing with Niji or VShoujo

>>7643447
Niji is not inclining. Their best hope was EN and both branches are broadly failures - if not by Niji standards then certainly by hololive standards. At this point you're either a successful indie or you're hololive; no one else has a chance.

>>7643506
Cope more Holobrony. The Nijis are slowly hitting 5k CCV while your memeshark is reclining into the 9ks. I'll give her 1 month before she fades into irrelevance

>>7643447
If EN2 isn't a wreck they'll carry Hololive at the top another year at least

>>7643557
NijiEN were beaten by a fucking spic chuuba, comparing them to holo is pointless at this point

>>7643557
See you in a month then Nijinig. You know you're just meming and/or trying futilely to convince yourself. The truth of hololive's domination is obvious.

>>7643598
They're already a wreck. The only marginally successful one is Selen. The other two were dead on arrival, and gen 1 isn't much better off. If Niji doesn't want to collapse in on itself, it needs to start going through a decently rigorous hiring process, because the wastrels they're bringing in right now aren't even worth clicking open the tab.

>>7643799
>already a wreck
>Niji slowly building a fanbase and gaining viewers
>while Holos are bleeding theirs left and right
Rumao, is this the famous Holocope?

>>7643936
I mean, we can compare the numbers if you'd like, Nijinig. I don't think you'll like what you see, though.

>>7641199
literally this. they say shit like "i may only get 12 viewers but at least i'm not a soulless corporate vtuber like hololive!!! i joke about inserting vegetables into my asshole, you can't get that with hololive!!! people don't know what they're missing!!! peepeepoopoomer discord meme of the week!!!"

>>7644036
This is exactly what happened after Calli's call-out song. The vtweeter sphere was ablaze with screeching trannies that didn't like her putting a spotlight on their con.

>>7643307
it does nothing. people just ignore it and screech "these people don't belong in OUR community! REEEEE!!!" just be careful who you pick as an indie 2view.

>>7643981
>Holobronies proud of their "numbers" after selling out to the Chinks and the Westerners that will forget about them after the memes get stale
Rumao, seethe and dilate more Holobrony.

>>7644247
That's what I thought. I accept your surrender, Nijinig.

>>7644282
>>7644247
The only person more retarded than you two is me for responding to this shitty bait.

>>7640303
Exploiting weeb losers for their money is easy.

>>7642866
I'm actually lying.

>>7643447
>>7643557
If you keep repeating it, someday it will come true right?
That redhead is from Niji's JP branch that recently debuted.

>>7645027
>morning stream
I wonder why

>>7644247
>>7644282
>HOLOBRONY
>NIJINIGGER
do you guys hear yourselves right now? you sound fucking autistic. i like ars almal and gawr gura so i know that both have good people in them. tribalism is retarded and at the end of the day they're both shitty black companies.

>>7645027
>Nijisanji = 15k overall viewers
>Hololive = only 9300
Thanks for making my point for me retard.

>>7640303
Why aren't you a vtuber, OP?

Aren't the annie may cover youtube accounts chock full of dead subs? Checked up on a dude I listened to every now and then from a few years ago and even though he has a few million subs he fails to break a few hundred thousand on all of his recent videos. She's just gonna end up being a 2view isn't she?

>>7645027
to be fair amelia is like a fucking goddess as far as vtubing goes. she was doing experimental streams even before kizuna ai was on the scene (correct me if i'm wrong) and isn't a trend chaser but a clever and creative pioneer.

>>7645242
Sure but she's playing minecraft right now, same as two of the nijien girls.

>>7640575
With her following there is no way in hell she applied for irys and failed.

>>7640425
Subaru talked about the odds of getting into Hololive some time ago

>>7645916
was that before or after G5 debut?

>>7645242
What has she done other than use a chibi model?

>>7645242
she joined hololive, shes basically 1 of the top 5 tread chasers in vtubing, along side the rest of holoEN.
you can argue that shes paid it back but thats not my point, dont jerk her off with reasons that are as flimsy as those as theres a bunch of experimental vtubers and in terms of normal streamers, theres ones that are way more successful, talented and popular then her.
Just jerk her off about how much you love her instead.

>>7640303
MONEY MONEY MONEY MMMMOOONNNNNEEYY

>>7646437
jesas where the fuck did you come from?

>>7640303
Because money, duh.

>>7640487
Probably just a fake stunt for attention.

>>7646532
I've only ever been active on vt, theres no place to go back too anon.

>>7640303
why wouldn’t they? vtubing is just babby mode streaming for women. they get more money than twitch thotting and as long as the avatar is cute people will watch.
>ackshually vtubers need good personalities to stand out from the rest
no they fucking dont. most fans pick one with a design they like and convince themselves the streams are entertaining. thats why eops watch jp channels and sexy sex clips and horny posting dominate online communities.

>>7640303
Because it is an easy way to make money. End of story.

>>7645916
Was that gen 2 odds or en odds?

>>7640303
>we want the Pavolia audience

>>7646689
If you are native to /vt/ then you came from twitter or reddit, go back.

>>7644156
Fuck you incel faggot!

>>7646437
This anon is right and teamates can't stand to see their oshi get shit on when she's doing the same shit as everyone else. Oh boy she used a 3D model made by a fan, Chinese nijis were doing that too

>>7646437
>theres ones that are way more successful, talented and popular then her.
and their names are?

>>7649042
jerma obviously.
I did say that part after saying streamers so don't get caught up on the vtuber part.
either way ame isn't the best thing in the world as you think she is, and jerking her off for being "a clever and creative pioneer" when what she is doing is only unique in hololive, sours peoples opinions of her.
your basically doing the equivalent of calling her god because she can do amateur party tricks.
not to actually put ame down for trying fyi, im more upset with you sucking her dick then what shes doing.

>>7645242
Never seen mfs overrate a Vtuber so much.

>>7640351
but this woman has shown her facy many times

I knew she would try to become a vtuber lmao. Her shitty covers have been getting bad views for like the last year, was a matter of time until she tried something trendy

>>7646592
100 percent a fake stunt, anyone who belives this was a real donation is an idiot.

Smart thing to do tho, everyone's talking about him now

>>7640303
It's a trend faggot

>>7640487
>herbie hancock
based jazzbro

>>7640487
She looks like she fucks human guys.

>>7640526
this. you don't have to take care of your appearance at all in order to still take advantage of the pussy pass. just look at polka and okayu

>>7640303
VTube Studio, unironically

>>7640487
> consecutive
It's concurrent you indog

>>7641487
It'll just be a Baobsotuation where her views are stuck in the 2k range

Op, that how trends work. Have you not seen what happened with onlyfans? Literally anyone with a decently big ass can make bank just by showing it (same for boobs).
The same goes for vtubers, if you are an adult with money to invest (or just a teen with rich parents) and get yourself a decent rig you can try your luck and become a vtuber (mostly work for girls or traps) to make more money. it's something accessible to almost anyone and it's a thing that recluse hikkis or neets with low self-esteem can do. so of course more people are gonna jump into the hypetrain.
I honestly would too because I think creating your own character and planning your own youtube/twitch channel is something fun to do. but I have no money to invest into it and most importantly, am a dude

>>7640630
>>7654138
Is Taiga a he or a she? Which one is it?

>When I hit 100k followers I'll release my upcoming vtuber's design
then don't release it

>>7640303
Because they saw holoEN launch and all of them easily earning over 20k per month after cuts for what is essentially just some hours of streaming yourself playing a game you like, singing or even just talking

>>7669397
>>7640303
Haven't the NijiENs struggled to get to even 100k? Do people really think you get 100k just from having a vtuber model?