/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75321155
>but I'd say that the meta nature of the questions makes it a bit better because
>but I'd say that the meta nature of the questions makes it a bit better because..
kys

Rangeban SEA
Fire all Indonesian, Malaysian, and Filipino jannies
Put Canadians on probation

Clean up the toxic waste dump that is this godforsaken board.

>>75321155
Dramafags dont know kino of watching actual real vtubers

>>75321155
Who(re)?

>>75321155
>And yes, I understand this thread is also kinda doing the same thing
>kinda
Every single non-/haha/ Doki thread has an OP that goes
>NIJISEETHE DOKI WON NIJISEETHE DOKI WON
Every fucking hour you retarded niggers need to update /vt/ on a nijisister farting on Twitter. I do not want to know what they are doing or saying and yet (You) feel the need to stay updated 24/7. Make a general, buy an ad, tie a noose and hang yourself, whatever it is to get you indogs to stop giving live updates on Niji happenings

>>75321554
but enough about elira...

>>75322745

>>75322799
God these models are so trashy

>>75321367

>>75323880
Elira had the best one by far, Pomu's was terrible and the pictures of the others I have seen aren't much better

>>75324173
>Elira had the best one by far
How surprising.

>>75321155
Dragoon here. I'm enjoying participating in the threads because it's free advertising and admittedly I don't give a shit about her apex ranking game right now and just laughing at her amazing yaps sessions.

>>75324364
You are missing a lot of yapping, just tab out.

>>75324364
yikes bro you just missed her yapping about cupping your bros balls

>>75322799
Did she throw the baseball at selen's head? Also, what is that waddle?

>>75321155
NijiEN lost 50% of their income across the board.
Why do you think?

>>75324525
Those balls? Mine.

They need someone to blame that isn't the company or the remaining livers. Anyone who isn't a Bugman and watched the Jps knew this shit was coming.

>>75324564
>Also, what is that waddle?
Let's just say that Elira and Millie live in some perilously fragile glass houses directing the NDF to make "Doki fat" jokes.

>>75324525
>>75324432
I am tabbed out. Should've been more clear.
I'm just listening and only tabbing back in if she screams.

>>75324364
Dragoon here. I wish these bait threads would stop and the dramaniggers would finally leave Doki alone while she just streams, has fun and entertains me

>>75321155
donki loves the attention and she definitely does not mind if antis do hate watch her streams considering how much of a numbersfaggot she is, every view is important for her to remain steadfast in her mission to conquer the indie industry, enter various tournaments and increases her money revenue, while blocking nijisanji along the way by participating in events that already has niji livers on it. she is determined to not let nijisanji get a victory over her, because her FAT ego cannot take another humiliation like nijisanji gave her on february the 5th.

>>75325204
Hey, if they're not going away, might as well make sure they don't turn into sister hugboxes, in case an actual tourist shows up and might get the wrong impression of what people really feel.

Because she lied and hurt a lot of people and is getting away with it, and it fucking hurts to see. I believed in her too but it gets fishier and fishier the more things start to settle. The only one I even care about at Niji is Rosemi, I've just been lied to way too much in my life and it stings.

>>75323880
They're literally the same as Hololive's

>>75325407
the so-called lies next thread?

>>75325458
Nijisanji has better 3D, their tracking for objects is insane. They just don't have the facilities to utilize it to its full potential, but it's kind of worrying for Cover, a tech company that reinvested all its money on 3D, to have models comparable to Niji, an entertainment company that only considers 3D to be the cherry on top. Per value, Nijisanji mogs Hololive. Hard.

>>75325656
yeah dude just wait until Mint finally breaks

>>75325407
>I believed in her too but it gets fishier and fishier the more things start to settle.
You're not fooling anyone, btw.

>>75325773

>>75324653
Oh, I know Millle is a slam pig (still would) but I've never seen a shot of Elira from the shoulders down.

rape and mutilate all doxxniggers including doxxniggers of corps I hate.

>>75325407
>Doesn't say anything and wants to move on
And she hasn't Said anything since. So where the lie? You must be thinking of the other Dragon sister with the black video

>>75325872
Well, they HAD better 3D. It's actually pretty cool how their tracking lets chairs give way and bounce when the talent hops in, etc.

But then they've fucking squandered it lately and I don't know HOW the fuck the AR live happened.

>>75325791
And they said it wasn't the sisters harassing her lmao.

>>75325407
Nijisis, this thread is literally for you. Take your meds and move on.

>>75325961
Their 3D is still good, they just gave EN the bare minimum with the AR live for some reason. Older JP lives look better than it.

>>75325773
>>75325872
>>75326136
That's the problem with Niji pretty much. They have all lined up to be good and do good, and then they immediately fuck up taking the more money-grubbing shitty decision. It's been this way for a year, the problem with Doki is that was the last drop.

>>75321155
For Nijis, it's because they need an enemy and she makes for a convenient one, especially after Nijisanji EN dunked on itself trying to cancel her.
For dramafags, it is because the above is free real estate. They need views to grow, after all (and False/Khyo hates the company for understandable reasons).

>>75321367
Please. All pagpag jannies leave.

>>75321155
Because they have to keep denying and whatabouting to slow the pace of their organs bleeding more yacht money

>>75321155
>gliving
Minor spelling mistake therfore youre post is irrelevant. OP and everyone who replied is esl.

>>75321155
>>75325656
she vague-posted a whole bunch and successfully sold the narrative that other niji livers were responsible for her suicide attempts
this fucked those other people over and benefitted her
idk if she "lied" so much as gave a very one-sided account of what should have been internal drama, and willingly fucked over a whole lot of people (that she didn't like so it was ok)

>>75326912

>>75326912
fanfiction again?
how many times do we have to tell you that Niji's the only one who ever published any details about how dogshit they were? All Doki ever did was respond. She's never attacked them unprompted, or even said anything unrelated to direct responses to their defamation.

>>75327016
Don't bother, they are stuck in a timeloop dream where Selen manipulated everyone and got away with it

>>75326912
She vague posted nothing. She said that workplace harassment and poor treatment at the company was what led to it. Livers were not even specified until Elira fucked up and admitted it on the black screen stream.

Part of the reason these threads won't go away is because you Sisters won't stop seething and lying about what happened, and have continued to blame Doki for problems Nijisanji caused itself.

>>75327070
It's crazy to imagine that world, though. It'd mean that one bpd menhera who is somehow both completely unloved and yet has a billion raging toxic fans managed to outwit a faultless billion dollar company and its prized team of lawyers despite being too stupid, too impatient, and too narcissistic to just wait a few days for her video to come back up (which was clearly a first time issue for her, although she also somehow was the devil ruining everybody's life at the same time.)

>>75321155
Nijishit is garbage
Dookieshit is garbage
Who fucking cares?

>>75327016
the only reason this became drama so insane is dokibird tweeting that she tried to kill herself as a result of bullying
the niji message prior to that was just a vauge message about them parting ways, says nothing about suicide
responding to a normal corporate PR message about your termination with "I tried to kill myself and its their fault" is fucking insane

>>75326912
Ok, show the post where she “vagueposted”. I bet it’s the one that called EXCLUSIVELY managers out cuz your brainrot sees the company as oshi.
She has been drama free for 3 months, make that 4 at this point. I’ve seen game companies recovering from worse, it’s Niji who can’t stop fucking up because it has way for more than a year.
You are just retarded and need someone to blame because like a PS fan you bend 90 degree for your company. Start asking for them to stop the daily yabs and dive on them.

it's all just console war faggots larping as women

>>75327242
>I should be thankful they answered at me attmepting with firing me.
That’s why in the east there are the rich people and the live-in-bungalow people only, typu guys think slavery levels of acceptance are fine. Imagine actually feel sorry you got to that point and try better, no let’s smear her, the slaves will defend us no matter what.
See ya when they are successful killing someone, remember to clap on command as usual, monkey.

>>75326912
donki's smear campaign on nijisanji en has stopped working and livers have mostly retained their fanbases and viewerships, while getting rid of a crazy menhera woman from the branch. i see this as an ultimate win for nijisanji, even if sacrifices has to be made like losing subs and avoiding tournaments and events with donki on it.

>>75327242
>A vague message about them parting ways
It was a fucking hitpiece 3 pages long about how she broke copyrights. damaged the brand. and was a liability to work with. AND also she was negligible too. Why do sisters CONTINUE to lie about things everyone literally fucking saw. Is it your chink DNA?

>>75327809
the drama is over the suicide attempt though, and thats not part of it
the document comes off as vaguely hostile because doki had already lawyered up behind the scenes and was threatening to engage in legal action. this is CYA legal shit (japanese company wanting to make a clear public statement why they are firing talent), not niji deciding to shittalk doki because they hate her/they are retarded

>>75328199
No, they shittalked her because they are retarded, hateful assholes who thought they could get away with it after they semi-successfully slimed Zaion. Doki lawyering up is absolutely not an excuse for a three-page Twitter-style callout that was most likely defamatory.

They grossly underestimated how much their fanbase's confidence in the company had been lost and how widely Selen was liked, which is why it didn't work.

>>75329292
idk why you think that post was defamatory, all of what they said was stuff that is either clearly true, or at least plausibly true
and again, thats all irrelevant because the drama is over doki explicitly blaming niji for her suicide attempt

>>75328199
They didn't dump that whole doc because of "legal shit", they dumped it because their managers literally, unironically did not speak English and had no idea why she sent her document to them. They thought she was going to release it, even though she said she wasn't, because they literally, LITERALLY do not speak or read the English language. They thought they had to get ahead of the allegations in that document (which is why Elira, Millie, and Enna self-outed themselves; they were presumably named in the document and thought that was going to become public).

This part >>75329584. It was all a massive Nihongo only moment. Which just proves the company is incompetently shit from the top down at best, because they could just higher some fucking translators. Especially when legality is involved. If you don't know what a legal document says up, down, back to front and sideways, you should never open your fucking mouth about it until you do.

>>75329584
>>75329989
doki admits in her own posts her lawyers fucked up in sending over a document that they shouldn't have (her angry journaling of her work drama from as it was happening, presumably) and that said document included some statements with her throwing blame around
the issue is doki's lawyers sent over something they shouldn't have, not on niji

>>75330462
She admitted no such thing. And sending over a list of her HR grievances is no excuse for a bunch of retarded managers to freak out after running the doc through DeepL and then try to go nuclear 6 hours later, kek.
This was their fault, they fucked everything up themselves. It was self destruction on an unprecedented scale for a major corpo, really quite remarkable. They literally put out a defensive document responding in detail to allegations that weren't even public. And it wasn't even an effective defense, it mostly just made things sound far worse than Selen ever did! Amazing incompetence.

>>75330462
>doki admits
>no source

lel, lmao even

>>75330462
IIRC, Dookie also admitted in that stream that she's actually the King of Asia and used her Janissary army to conquer the Nijisanji HQ. That's why Riku was forced to apologize, since the mighty Turks were pointing their rifles down his neck.
Dookie bad.

>>75324564
All of this could have been solved if Elira was cast as the penguin instead of a green-eyed dragon.

>>75332043
This is all I can think of whenever I hear Doki's vagueposting was just part of her master stratagem.

>>75331769
her last main drama post about this is her doing damage control over the document, then blames it on lawyer miscommunication (with both groups of lawyers being japanese)

"The document mentioned was at first made to document my thoughts and history with evidence so that my lawyer can see the general picture of what was going on, and if there were issues that should be addressed. It was first made during my darkest time mentally and I wrote everything on my mind little by little at that time. I made the document thinking that it was never going to be public to anyone but to my lawyer."

"All of the communication was done between lawyers in Japanese. Things are not black and white and everything gets more complicated and muddled when lawyers are involved in a different country."

>>75333054
>damage control
Can't do damage control if there was no damage, anon. If you haven't noticed this whole thing kinda worked out for Doki.
She sent them a private document, they sperged out about it and immolated themselves. not her fault that they're retarded and panicky.

>>75332699
no one is saying doki is a mastermind manipulating everyone, just that she weaponized her suicide and rode a drama train (to her own benefit, while fucking other people over). given the same initial conditions she had literally anyone could have done that.

>>75321237
Rent free.

>>75333272
call it what you want, but the tone of the post is her explaining away the miscommunication and giving justifications for why niji misinterpreted it
I 100% agree she had no real personal motive to do it though, and my personal theory is that her giving a semi-favorable statement like that was part of some behind the scenes deal between her an niji to just drop the drama (afaik the drama via official channels fully stopped right after she made the post)

>>75325295
Kurosanji only humiliated and exposed itself on 5 Feb.

Kurosanji sisters continue to double-down, as if they'll somehow change the narrative by lying about it harder and more often.

Doesn't work for the PLA wumao types, and it's not working for you.

Resume medicating.

>>75321155
maybe because she exposed the cruel reality of nijiEN and basically became nijisisters #1 enemy

>>75327808
>Kurosisters' smear campaign on Dokibird has never worked
FIFY

>livers have not retained their fanbases and viewerships, which continue on a downward trend
FIFY

>while harassing one of its most-popular live-stream talents to near-death
FIFY

>sacrifices have to be made like losing subs
Wait, what? Thought you said the organs had mostly retained their fanbases and viewerships. Make up your mind please, sister.

>and being uninvited from tournaments and events.
FIFY

>>75321155
because her fucking fagoons won't just let the drama end. they keep anti-ing and bullying everyone in nijisanji and keep it going forever. and she doesn't say a word to try and stop it, she knows its the only way she stays relevant. her and her fans are worse bullies than anyone in niji ever was, she's done far more harm to them than they ever did to her.

>>75336645
kek, nice fanfic sis

>>75336791
please, tell me how thats a fanfic? its reality. doki and her fans have been FAR worse bullies to nijiEN than anything that ever happened to her, thats simply the truth thats plain for anyone to see. The vilification and absolute dogpiling smear campaign on the entire company is endless by these fags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz0jp0azkDo
Supercut of Doki neopets stream starts at 37:30 and she says a few times that she'll be releasing receipts. Aaaaand she never released them? Considering that it was happening during the black screen stream I'd give her that she was very emotional at that point and tooted war horn as much as possible. And after that she just backpedaled after cooling her head off later. As a result no receipts were released which is more than understandable from a legal point of view and her wishing to just move on but to this day it still makes me doubt her a little bit.

>>75337521
And you've never stopped to think about what Niji has done over the past two years to get the backlash it's getting?

>>75336645
There it is again, assuming it's dragoons and not the former fans of the multiple bridges Nijisanji has burned. The funniest shit during this was watching Nijifags be completely ignorant of all the illwill they generated by burning Pomu out and making that member stream where she was crying public

>>75337682
She cooled down and decided to be the bigger person, anon. And also didn't want potential legal complications. She had won by that point anyway and as time as gone on the full extent of just how much she "won" and Nijisanji lost has become extremely evident.
Even the cruelest sadist would be satisfied by the utter destruction and humiliation NijiEN has faced this year, and Doki, despite what the sisters say, isn't a sadist. The funniest thing is, Doki basically "won" in the same way someone would win a duel if their opponent decided to blow their own head off. She never even struck out at them in the first place.

>>75337521
Doki hasn't done a single thing to Nijisanji, as far as I know hasn't even mentioned the controversy in months. You're going to seethe forever but she moved on long, long ago.

>>75322799
i can smell the middle aged diabetes and fat from here

>>75337695
that's irrelevant, sure they're a shitty company, almost every company is if you dig deep enough. the talents don't deserve the level of hate they get simply for working there. dokifags are insane subhuman cultists for acting worse to them than they ever acted to doki

>>75338316
she disobeyed an explicit instruction from a manager, then went and posted about it on twitter in a way that clearly was going to hurt the PR of the company.
she was locked out of her company accounts and was presumably in the process of getting fired (or maybe seriously reprimanded) before all the drama went down.
but yea other than that she totally never struck out at them and didn't start it

>>75338316
that's simply not true, the entire thing was started by her. the only reason niji shot themselves in the foot was because she blackmailed them, she threatened to make all the stuff public so they tried to get out in front of it and do it first, they're just inept. She could have just shut the fuck up and went away quietly like all the other terminated livers, but she wanted drama and pity

>>75338629
her fans haven't, they continue to stalk every niji tweet, downvote every stream, shit up every comment section

>>75338731
Nijisanji clearly had a culture of disrespecting their livers. They told her at literally the last second that her cover that had been in planning for over a year was not able to be released, after ignoring her for 37 hours. They knew what was in it, they had seen and approved the concept art. They were just fucking with her and didn't know that it was the last straw. Well whoops, turns out sometimes when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind.
>>75338803
>she threatened to make all the stuff public so they tried to get out in front of it and do it first
Slanderous head canon.

>>75338652
wrong, she looks pretty damn good

>>75338907
its not headcanon dumb fuck, its literally in the termination statement niji put out

>>75339018
Nijisanji misinterpreted a private HR document she sent to them because their EN branch was run by JOPs who don't speak a single word of the English language. That's not on her, it's on them. When Nijisanji gets a chance to do another EN branch (kek), maybe hire some actual fucking English speakers to run it next time.

>>75338696
Lmao, you're telling me people like Luca and Uki don't deserve the hate they get?

>>75338907
>Nijisanji clearly had a culture of disrespecting their livers. They told her at literally the last second that her cover that had been in planning for over a year was not able to be released, after ignoring her for 37 hours. They knew what was in it, they had seen and approved the concept art. They were just fucking with her and didn't know that it was the last straw. Well whoops, turns out sometimes when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind.
you have no idea how reasonable/unreasonable that delay was. niji livers in their damage control say her complaint is over the top.
also it is irrelevant. "internal company process moved too slow for my convenience" is not an excuse to breach employment contracts, and doesn't let you get away with doing shit that will blatantly get you fired at any normal job. disobeying a manager in the way she did, and then going and tweeting about it afterwards is 100x worse than not approving videos in a timely manner

>>75339101
in doki's post she says that her japanese lawyers were talking to niji's japanese lawyers. the communication breakdown was between doki and her lawyers

"All of the communication was done between lawyers in Japanese. Things are not black and white and everything gets more complicated and muddled when lawyers are involved in a different country."

>>75321155
This board melted down over some literal who male indie getting "doxxed" and arguing with Sayu on twitter. The indie scene is small and grim as fuck.

>>75321155
Nope 85 percent of these Doki post are made by 3 people. Dokifans Nijisister and dramafags from every corpo the rest of the 15% like me who don't give a damned about any of this stupid shit have to put up with this bullshit every day.

>>75339403
Who gives approval of the contents of a video the day it's going to be released? An inexcusably flawed and unprofessional process. This stuff would have been approved at literal concept stage in any reasonable company. They ignored her final check until PAST the deadline, and then yanked it unceremoniously. They dropped the ball hard and it was the last crack in the psychological health of one of their most prominent and important talents.
And the "perms problem" was literally for Nijisanji's own IP.
Sorry, Nijisanji is in the wrong here. And the public agrees. This was just a power-tripping manager fucking with a talent they didn't like, without realizing the unholy destruction it would release on the entire branch. What a huge mistake!

>>75334915
>donki - 6.375m total views in last 30 days.
>nijisanji en (active livers only) - 17.049m total views in last 30 days.
pack up your bags faggoon, the branch is still alive kek.

>>75337521

>>75339686
thats nice but its irrelevant. a company being poorly run doesn't mean someone can be openly insubordinate and publicly defame it without consequence.
I have no doubt doki was legitimately frustrated about whatever, but she threw a tantrum and essentially got herself fired to kick off all this drama. that's "starting it" imo

>>75339934
I disagree and so does everyone else. The court of public opinion settled this matter back in February, we're just having some casual fun hashing out the post-mortem. This is all already over.

>>75339934
niji shot themselves in the foot, their actions defamed themselves. nice try attempting to rewrite history though, nijinig

>>75339934
as a wise man once said: Nijisanji is like a voltorb bent on self destruct
kekw

>>75339758
>EN livers outnumber Doki 30 to 1, give or take whatever criteria you want to use for "active"
>Doesn't even manage 3 times her viewership
Are you sure you want to be crowing about this?

Let's distance ourselves from speculation and for a bit.

What exactly are the confirmed facts that can't be argued with and which make NijiEN a 'shitstain on vtubing community that needs to disappear for the greater good'? For me only a few come to mind:
>favoring a literal racist
>non-existent help from management
>smear campaign against someone with 2 documented attempts
>overall scumminess of contracts and operation model in general (?)

>>75340096
they can't even cope about CCVs anymore so they move the goalpost to coping about views LMAO EVEN

>>75339997
Not really. There's been a gradual shift in public perception about the state of things. The pendulum is starting to swing back the other way in Nijisanji's favor, especially with all the good will they got with the 3Ds and AR Live (which, by the way, were delayed because of Doki being a selfish retard). The fans will slowly come back after another round of debuts to check what's been going on, and before long, things will be back to normal, while Doki will forever be the bitch who failed at everything, including killing herself.

>>75338696
nijinigs are insane subhuman cultists that after nyfco went down they came here to post all these bait threads to try and twist history

>>75340273
Wishful thinking of the highest order

>>75336645
are you done yet nijinig? damn it's either hololive or doki/sayu with you fags, move on and worry about Q4 already

>>75340323
Two more weeks, right anon? Then the graduation queue will surely start.

>>75340273
>The pendulum is starting to swing back the other way in Nijisanji's favor
lmfao

>>75340273
>Goodwill they got with 3Ds and AR Live
>Can't even be bothered to handle perms

>>75340383
Triumphant crowing about a branch setting record lows for 3D debuts and putting out butchered 3D concerts and embarrassing paid karaokes with rows and rows of empty seats. I'd almost guess you were a false-flagger poking fun.

>>75340096
it is also higher than what holoid branch got, which was 14.754m total views gained in last 30 days with kobo's new viral original song buff and they still cant beat a debuffed niji en branch. idkeks not like this.

>>75340666
how many members does holoID have, I forget? at least 30 right?

>>75340666
>>75340711
For being terminally on Twitter, you'd think Nijisisters would understand ratios.

>>75340666

>>75325407
Rent free

>>75340711
not my fault if yagoo cant afford to pay salaries to hire more id talents to buff up his failed branch. the recruitment team even got mogged by vshojo getting mika from them.

>>75340936
nijinigs shouldn't be discussing salaries when they use their cut a part of their organs' for their own taxes

>>75340936
dont try to deflect this to vshojo nijisister

>>75325407
it fucking hurts to see how retarded you are, no wonder you keep believing in lies

>>75340666
>nijinigger can't cope with CCV so it starts using total views instead

Sisters... you've lost, move on

>>75339758
you... you really used the entire branch to compare to one person to cope
Holy nijicope

>>75340167
>favoring a literal racist
I don't think you understand what racist is
>non-existent help from management
Maybe they could've just asked
>smear campaign against someone with 2 documented attempts
Is it really smear when it's the truth?
>overall scumminess of contracts and operation model in general (?)
Nah

>>75341496
What's happening to Nijisanji is not a smear campaing because it's true, think sister, think, use your brain for once

>>75341496
>Maybe they could've just asked

>>75341225
nijien still has higher watch hours than neo-porte, the guy who owns it is pretty massive in jp industry so ill take it. and donki is blacklisted from participating in his apex tournaments, unlike the niji livers KEK. oh well, atleast she has nuukia sponsoring her.

>>75341630
>using other stats to cope because individual CCV is worse than Dokis

Sister... this is not the win you think, I can give you a rope if you want

>>75341496
Racism is hating people based on their race. Uki is racist.
>b-but racism is prejudice plus pow-
no it's not. That's retarded retconning from 21st century intellectuals up their own asses. Racism is hating people based on something they can't even change and isn't their fault, like the color of their skin. Uki is a racist. Plain and simple.

>>75341496
Not even gonna argue with a retarded nijisister, just gonna post it here for the other anons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAw2eTwirJI

>>75341778
Cry more like that white lady meme.
If it was real he'd be cancelled already, but looks who's still streaming?

>>75342919
His fans are racist too. I'm not saying they should stop watching him, I'm not saying he should stop streaming. I'm just saying: own it!

>>75321155
Mostly because of these bait threads.

>>75340273
>good will

>>75341693
donki's going to need the rope more than me, after the tekken's tournament she joined gets mogged in earnings by a nijisanji x holostars event at seattle on the same day too, kek.

>>75344074
Whatever makes you sleep better at night sister

>>75338880
>>75337521
You guys don't watch your competitors/rivals/perceived enemies, do you?.. Because I've been keeping track of the dragoons through their discord servers. They haven't mentioned any drama unless it occurred amongst dragoons exclusively for months already, ever since Doki addressed and finalized her statements towards her old company and have just been enjoying their time watching her streams and enjoying other vtubers as well, why? Because that's what Doki wants.
The ones still attacking Niji? They're just general Niji-antis that are just fed up with Nijisanji as a whole, and they can be composed of many aggrieved fandoms that have received attacks/mockery from Nijifans in the past.

>>75337521
Just because everyone sides with Doki on this issue doesn't mean they're all "dragoons". People don't like scummy black companies by default.

>>75321155
My honest opinion, she's just perfect for making bait threads. Chances are if you make bait with her a sister, a schizo or a dragoon will bite and keep the thread timelooping until it gets archived

>>75346453

>>75321155
Because they literally tripped and fell on the sword they were trying to character assassinate Doki with. And instead of owning their mistake they keep doubling down and falling on the sword over and over. and each time they do they blame Doki. At first it was just evil of them, then it was pathetic, and now it is just sad.

>>75321155
No, you got it backwards, for the same reason people will now claim you're a false flag trying to make Dramabirds look bad.

>>75321155
takes a chinese to take down the chinese

>>75321155
Because it is fun to see nijisister's cope and seethe. Moving on.

>>75339758
I'll drop this here.

>>75321367
If that happens, you also lose access

>>75325773
Keyword, had.
Nowaday niji tech is lightyears behind Holo, hell, even Vspo.
Like, fucking homos has accurate finger tracking. Izuru played guitar in 3D live way back in 2022, that EN blue faggot played cello in his 3D showcase.
meanwhile niji still stuck in balls tracking tech.

>>75351502
nijis got nice cars though

>>75351677
>McLaren
hey that's pretty coo-
>Black
Fucking jap and their shitty taste in automobile colors

>>75321155
Rent free. I swear. As long as Nijis keep letting her do it she wins.

>>75321155

>>75327216
Your forgot the Sayu incident
1-JP managment just drop thing on Elira
Effectively there isnt proper managment

2-Corpos at the top are pretty stupid.
Most thought the same hing that made JP tick will work in EN, it didnt.

So is mostly corporate incopetence.
Sayu show it, she just wasnt vendictive enough to Drag Niji down.
In comparison Selen is the type to win or Drag everyone trought a bigger missery.
the Revengance stream is the most clear example

>>75338316
Anon, this is the Vtuber comunnity
There ISNT a bigger peson
just schizos and subtle asholes

>>75339403
>>75339686
2 thing can be true at the same time
My take is:
-Niji is a corpo, they dont give a shit, hey want money
-Selen is a cunt, is her way or the hell way

the rest, is history

>>75321367
hear hear

>>75347360
B.A.S.E.

>>75321155
Mint not acknowledging her is enough proof for me to laber her as a bad person. No, your cope of “Doki is just too busy collabing with new people and expanding her brand atm to collab with her” needs to stop

Because it's easy bait
Sisters can't stop taking obvious bait and making absolutely shitty anti threads after acknowledging they took said bait and having a rectal ragnarok.
Also SEA hours

>>75355501
Watch streams retard

>>75356518
>They call that moment where she got blindsided, a win
Grim

>>75356681
Cope

>>75355501
>laber
ESLkek...

>>75352380
Is she even doing it? Because it's starting to look one sided

>>75324624
Pretty much this...

>>75339758
>an entire branch can't even match a third of Doki's views in the same timespan
Grim.

>>75351266
Oof that Vox plateau.

>>75325961
The had a deal with Sony Studios Japan to use their facilities iirc, but the deal ran out. Now they have to make do with lesser partners or in-house for their lower profile stuff...

>>75327216
to be fair, hoping on getting the video approved within 24hrs right before christmas was naive of her...

>>75362827
>Christmas
>in Japan
Retard

>>75363311
dont most companies have winter break around that time in japan?

>>75362827#
Also was on a weekend but no one mentions that part…

>>75362827
>>75365562
no you dont get it, they were really doing it just to be mean to her because the company sucks
this was them harassing her (as part of a pattern of behavior) and totally justified her disobeying direct orders from management and tweeting negative shit about the media company she works for

>>75367715
Sire sis, because everyone stops working on xmas. Those people doing live specials in tv and retailers are robots in reality.
When you want to join real life again, people stream on Xmas too. Are you trying to convince someone with your same IQ that managers don’t check those streams and are free for all?
You must be an adult to post here. Clearly you are not if you think school vacation time match work vacations.

>>75368334
Selen/doki has just been really popular all along

>>75367946
I tottally agree, the reason they didn't approve her video was just to be mean because her manager wanted to harass her. they saw her message but chose to ignore it

>>75368334
cringe
>>75368389
based

>>75356681
It wasn't the only moment, newfag

>>75327070
it's true dookiebird manipulated nijien management into posting the 3-page termination PDF and mind controlled elira into creating the blackscreen stream

>>75368491
Reminder that by it’s own messag ethe manager saw the video being posted only a lot of time after checking the message. Meaning the manager DOES NOT CHECK THE CHANNEL HE MANAGES regularly.
You would get fired for this level of negligence in any normal company, but NijiEN? Nah, get defended by retards all the way. Can’t beat the black corpo allegations with their own testimony.

>>75368715
>mind controlled
PSYCHIC WARFARE IS REAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8cmbmwFAl8

>>75368609
I wonder why it didn't give me the W

>>75364289
Christmas is a couple's holiday just like Valentine's Day. It's not a Catholic hang out with friends and family eating turkey day

>>75339758

I'll do the math since you can't.

NijiEN has 31 members left as of March and by comparing the entire branch's view with Doki is kind of retarded. 17.049m views divided by 31 organs would be 550k views per organs. Doki has 6.375m views in total on her own 30 days ago.

I also did calculations if we're going by the active livers and the numbers are still grim. Let's say that only 10 organs are active, the results would be 1.705m per organs. The more active liver numbers you have, the less the views per livers get.

In other words, NijiEN cannot compete against Doki on their own and had to combine all of their pathetic views in total per livers to even feel like they've won the PP measuring contest.

Quite a dumb hill to die on, Nijisister but it's not my place to stop you from being retarded in public and cry about why it's Doki's fault that everyone is laughing at you for being a retard.

Either take your meds or stop riding the Nijinig dick.

>>75370252
bro you gotta explain in goats metaphors, it's the only thing they understand

>>75370252
The other day I think one of them said that Luxiem was around 4.2m total for the past 30 days?
I went and checked Doki's alone and it was around 7m.
The woman they chased out is performing almost double in their own metric compared to their fucking top remaining gen.

>>75368851
your right, her manager sucked so it makes sense that she ignored what the retard manager said and then made fun of them on twitter. the fact that niji freaked out about that their fault, all she was doing was responding to bullying

>>75339758
>Doki has a third of an entire branch viewer in the month they debuted AR, concerts, 3D and collabs of a big anniversary.
HOLY FUCKING GRIM. So a -33% fall at minumum? That's to be happy about?

>>75371449
Yeah she was done with the fucking nonsense and decided to go with what her fans wanted and what she promised rather than retarded rules that they don't respect for other talents.
It's basic logic.

Everytime I see a doki thread my stomach acts up and I have to go take a huge dookie log outta my tight asshole

>>75373577
The sisters are used to 50% being a passing grade so anything less than that is... negligible.

>>75373826
Here's your toilet paper bro

>>75373577
...what?

>>75370648

Sure.

I'll dumb it down for them and use big words to help them understand.

>Dumb Nijisister try use big numbers to win against Doki
>Doki still better than dumb Nijis
>Doki still got big numbers
>Dumb Nijisister do not like
>Dumb Nijisister keeps saying Doki bad
>Dumb Nijisister keep on being poopoo
>Doki keep winning, Niji keep losing

I'm not sure if I can write retarded Nijisister fluently but this is the best I can do.

>>75368851
It was literally Christmas + Nijifes at the same time

>>75370648
Actually i'm not even sure they understand goat comparisons. It was used to explain stocks value to these retards countless times and they still think Cover is in the shitter