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Why doesn't Hololive ask developers to pay them to play their games rather than beg for permissions? There are dozens of indie devs out there who would pay through the nose to get the kind of eyeballs Hololive gets on their games. It seems stupid that Hololive is asking devs for permissions when devs should be begging Hololive for the marketing.

>> No.752420

>>752344
If you think it would work, you can try to create a "game promotion via vtubers" marketing agency and make it happen.

I think there are legal/brand/financial reasons why they don't do it though.

>> No.752434

because japan

>> No.752440

>>752344
That's called a sponsorship and they already do that. The companies that lead to them being so careful (Nintendo and Capcom) don't need the exposure and playing their games often gave the girls a boost in viewership.

Blame Japanese copyright law

>> No.752442

>>752344
Most games are worthless to the publisher 2 weeks after it's released, and any of them who want to pay a company to play it will do it (like we've seen with some games with Holos).
Once that passes the publisher will just "nah fuck off".

>> No.752526

>>752442
Among Us became one of the most popular games in the world two years after release because some streamers played it as a meme.

>> No.752527

>>752344
I wanna bury face in between those lovely chest mounds, holy shit.

>> No.752561

>>752527
Mel is for motorboating

>> No.753073

>>752561
Mel is pure

>> No.753101

>>752344
basically, they are fucking stupid

>> No.753138

>>752344
Because that'll create so much insane negative backlash against Cover. Getting paid to play indie games by the devs themselves is almost certainly a first, and that's slimy as fuck. That's double-dipping on greed.

>> No.753194

>>753138
People want the Holos to play anything other than APEX and Minecraft, Cover gets money, indies get their games promoted. Win win win.

>> No.753210

>>753138
>Getting paid to play indie games by the devs themselves is almost certainly a first
Half of Fubukis streams are shilling gacha shit though...

>> No.753247

>>753194
No Western indie dev has any restrictions on content creators playing their games for profit. None. If the priority is to get the Holos out of Apex and Minecraft, just do it. Just pick a damn title and play.

>> No.753293

>>753210
I don't know if I consider gacha peddlers indie. Certainly not the ones Fubuki plays.
If what you mean by shilling is she gets paid to play those, whatever. It's gacha. There's no ethics there.

>> No.753339

>>753293
I'm just wondering why being paid to promote predatory gacha shit is ok but small independent developers paying to get some advertising for their games is bad.

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753376

>>753247
>If the priority is to get the Holos out of Apex and Minecraft, just do it. Just pick a damn title and play.
They can't do that. Japanese autism demands they get all permissions in writing from the owner of the IP. Because Hololive already got copyright striked by Capcom and had to holocaust the archives of all the talents because of it

>> No.753522

>>753376
Yes, they can. Someone should inform Cover management that Western indies and AA devs really welcome people to play their games without needing their permission.
In fact, some of these publishers already give blanket permission.
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/849379835885518848?lang=en

On that note, it's nuts that Gura can't play Valheim because of this retarded neurosis that the Japanese have.

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753547

>>753073

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753602

>>753073
Yeah, pure sex

>> No.753654

>>752344
Larger companies don't need their marketing and people like Cover are seen more as people trying to leech off their games' popularity.
>Indies
If most indie devs weren't so goddamn greedy then maybe. Most of them have this irrational fear of "losing out" on profits from streamers and content creators, profits they wouldn't have gotten anyways if not for other people making their shit known.

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754715

>>753376
>The only talents before ID1 that have over half their videos still up are AZKi and Oga

>> No.754770

>>752344
They do, occasionally the devs will sponsor a stream and have done. For example the Shadowverse devs sponsored some of the EN Girls to play, and Amelia I think had princess connect because how else did she get that account she could effectively simulate whaling on.

>> No.754882

>>754770
Priconne sponsored the whole Holo EN. Ame and Kiara did gameplay streams. Gura did karaoke. Ina drew a character. And there will be a song release made by Mori.

>> No.754949

>>753376
>They can't do that. Japanese autism demands they get all permissions in writing from the owner of the IP.

perhaps western streaming got little too comfortable with fair use and just assumed it's ok to cash in, then Twitch DMCA shitshow gave everyone a proper reminder to fix your paperwork.

>> No.755119

Japanese companies want people buying their games. Not watching them. They dont trust that people will watch the stream and buy a copy, in fact, they think the opposite.

>> No.755130

>>755119
JP Devs: What is this Among Us you speak of?

>> No.755754

>>755130
Speaking of Among Us. Didn't the guy who made the jp mod for it had a fit about chuubas using his shit and not paying him for it.

>> No.761176

>>754770
>>754882
As a refresher, Shadowverse and Priconna are both Cygames owned, right?

>> No.762342

>>752344
Because we live in a world where businesses bought laws that mandate that one must pay for the privelege of making money for them.

>> No.762459

>>754949
Not fair use, just most western devs looking the other way. A vast majority of western game streaming most likely wouldn't pass the legal definition of fair use in a court of law.

>> No.762730

>>753522
After what almost happened to Mio I can't really fault them to make sure their ass is 100% protected

>> No.763149

>>762459
Exactly.
Originally LP videos started as "reviews" which are excluded from copyright laws for consumer protection basis, and this delusion still shows remnants to this date disguised as "fair use", while in reality Developers are just looking the other way.

Obviously this caused a lot of confusion in masses when they learned that there's paperwork involved when professionals start streaming games.

well, it's not like "legal definition" will stop idiots from tweeting anyway #CallioP3

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