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75287180 No.75287180 [Reply] [Original]

>Noooo, HoloJP is a paradise!
>Shut it doooooown

>> No.75287228

Japanese permission autism is gay.
Just move to America

>> No.75287295

>>75287180
>literal clickbait

>> No.75287319

>>75287228
>just move to jewrica

>> No.75287328

Never forget Pekora's manager called her mid stream to tell her the fan project was cancelled because reasons

>> No.75287373

>>75287292

>> No.75287381

>>75287228
At least her long time wish of being knocked up by an overseas bro will get fulfilled in an hour after touchdown

>> No.75287390

>>75287180
This is known, thats why we always shit on Management unlike nijifags.
>but my yagoo
people shit on him for the homos all the time. Same as A-chan when she did the holotori shit.

>> No.75287403

did your other bait thread using marine get deleted?

>> No.75287551

>>75287390
difference is the culture of management in Holo is to always assume the talent is just being petty
>Kroniis manager is lazy? nah Kronii just is shit at scheduling
>Gura got made fun of in front of council? Was just a joke bro!
>Haachama requested a different manager because her 2nd one was pervy? Nah he's just trying to connect with you!

>> No.75287631

>>75287319
> newfag doesnt know the term we use is jewnited states of america
please go back toreddit you tourist faggot

>> No.75287680

>>75287228
>Move to Mexico
>Start streaming that Dragonball game pekora is playing.
>Get mexican cartel connections
>Become friend with cartel because of dragonball
>Bait a nijisister to say "dragonball sucks"
>Inform cartel boss about these nijisister
>Cartel boss start sending his lackey to deal with these sister.
>Bait Nijiorgan to say anything bad about dragonball.
>Inform cartel boss.
>One dead nijiorgan coming right up
>Bait Riku sama to say something bad about Toriyama san
>Inform cartel.
>Dead CEO incoming
>Nijisanji is dead.
Mexico is the answer

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>>75287180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4
Yeah, no, Nijisanji is a fucking plague.

>> No.75287819

>>75287680
>Thinking the randomly successful billionaire boy hasn't been noticed by the Yakuza or Triad
Though that isn't to say Yagoo isn't in the yakuza backpocket either

>> No.75287868

>>75287631
Okay jew

>> No.75287942

>>75287819
Sounds like a good game to make. A fight between two vtuber company involving the cartels and the yakuza.

>> No.75288091

I hate click baiting clippers so much.

>> No.75288127

>>75287228
ahhahah AHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.75288237

Ok what happened in Niji this time

>> No.75288286

>>75288237
enna is "taking a break"

>> No.75288314

>>75288237
Enna going on a mental break

>> No.75288365

>>75287228
To have it even worse? Whats wrong with you?

>> No.75288638

>>75287228
When was the time any Japanese company that move to ever America turn out to be good?
Look at the copyright happy Nintendo and Sony virtue signal HQ for example.
Yeah that's right NoA was the one that started all this copyright nonsense when they try to sue blockbuster in the 90s. And somehow that mindset got transfered to Japan.

>> No.75288934

>>75288638
NoJ were suing people left and right in the 80's and early 90's prior to NoA's founding.
Nigga do you not even know Japan's history of Megacorpos ruining the literal lives of anyone who they claim to infringe their copyright? It makes the west look consumer friendly in comparison.

>> No.75288992

>>75288638
This is so completely wrong I don't even know where to begin.

>> No.75289411

>>75288992
first part no political bs is valid second part not so much

>> No.75289597
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>>75287180
HOLY SHIT, sister can't even coordinates their bait thread right. They like headless chickens.

>> No.75289894

>>75287180
the lack of discipline and rule enforcement is the reason why most of EN had given up on streaming. the suffocating restrictions are the reason why holoJP is a paradise.

>> No.75290026

>>75288992
>>75288934
Claiming me wrong is cheap, giving actual example is not.
Earliest case of copyright battle I could find involving Nintendo games was in the 80s. And it was Universal Studio suing Nintendo, so an actual American company was the first one to inspire them to do this.

>> No.75290160

>>75287180
Marine not being able to do her gross coomer garbage is a good thing. They should restrict her more.

>> No.75290272

>>75287180
don't let me tap the sign again.

>> No.75290304

>>75287631
eww ur a jew and a redditor. kill yourself faggot

>> No.75290318

>>75289894
what's the purpose of paradise if it's just another prison?

>> No.75290679

>>75288992
Sony filtering all feedback, even from Japanese devs working for them, through their California office is a real thing, though. And Cali is the Mecca for virtue signaling.

>> No.75290771

>>75287228
fpbp

>> No.75290976

>>75287180
>Not linking the clip or the stream
This is clickbait, isn't it?

>> No.75291045

>>75287180
I don't even need to watch this. It says was. Past tense. Whatever the issue was, it's over.

>> No.75291194

>>75291045
Yeah, she stressed the “was” part in the vid too.

>> No.75292000
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75292000

tl;dr
>"it's for your own good
Cover literally gaslighting their talents to fall in line with mediocrity

It's guaranteed that first +1mil holo that goes indie and shares her experience with the rest, Cover lineup will literally crumble like house of cards in matter of months

>> No.75292238

>>75292000
The fact that they even have a list of +1mil holos already puts them ahead of fucking everyone else.
They support the stragglers until they actually catch up and become self sufficient. Over half of the company is above 1 million now.
You know how many people in Niji have 1 million? 8. And one of them was fucking chased to indonesia for tax debt.

>> No.75292265

>>75292000
>first +1mil holo that goes indie
Already happened twice.
But nothing happens.
Now what sister?

>> No.75292901

I wish Senchou would suffocate me with various body parts

>> No.75293179

>>75292000
lol

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>>75292265
>Already happened twice
Getting kicked out =/= Leaving on their own.

and nobody kept in touch with Coco for almost 2 years after she left, guess she wasn't that popular with other talents...
Situation might be bit different if someone who has actual friends in the company leaves

>> No.75293243

>>75293208
>nobody kept in touch with Coco
sheesh don't expose yourself like that, have some tact

>> No.75293259

>>75288237
niji not joining some event because doki there

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75293289

>>75287228
Fpwp, hang yourself fat lard.

>> No.75293558

>>75287868
okay redditor, jew and faggot. genuinely hope one of your parents or family have died faggot, hopefully of cancer. do us a favor and kill yourself

>> No.75293606

>>75290318
prison? they can graduate at any time. cover had let their biggest moneymaker go before. marine is likely a millionaire by now but she stayed in holoJP.
>>75293208
>Getting kicked out
did you actually watch hololive in 2021? she can't collab with anyone because the bugs are botting her chat to the point she can't communicate with her fans. if she collabed with others the bugs will infest them too, as evidenced with fubuki's channel. despite all this her salary is still higher than the CEO's. there is no sign that hololive is letting her go, the graduation is purely her decision.

>> No.75293717

>>75293208
>"D-doesn't count!"
>Moving goalpost
>Use random image with no context
>Literally could be proven wrong with a bit of google search
Talking with literal retard here.
As much as I hate Kson for introducing flesh streaming to twitch vtuber andys, she was still in contact with some other holomem. It was happening on stream as well.
You wouldn't know though since if there is one thing I respect from kson, it is that she keep her old persona and her current one separate without leveraging her old connection for clout. Which is why you never heard it.

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>>75293606

I'm still pissed about that. Even as late as december last year the chinese were STILL fantasizing about murdering her on bilibili.

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>>75293606
let's up your weeaboo levels anon
todays lesson subject : Oidashibeya (Banishment room)
>The idea of the oidashibeya is that stripped of their status, ties with colleagues, and interesting work, the employees who are placed there will eventually quit out of shame and sheer boredom

Let's do a cross-comparison with Coco
>no collabs
>no chat interaction(not providing mods to clean up the chat, but actually giving spammers mod rights)
>no sponsorships

gee, what a coincidence...

>> No.75293878

>>75288237
>Vox went “pickme” in event Niji was before this years and they pick Doki
>Enna is taling a “break”, probably because she is done with the corpo going full male push while female are barely 3views, and she getting hate as usual
>Nijisis exist, thus they have to b le retarded (always valid)
And you can be sure 0% of them watched the clip.

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>>75293208
>and nobody kept in touch with Coco for almost 2 years
anon... just because towa is a retard, you dont need to project that on everyone
I can literally remember not mori hanging out with her not even 6 months later already.

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>>75293863
nice meme
counterpoint: Fubuki is still in the company.

>> No.75294201

>>75293941
point was that JPs never learned about the life outside hololive.
remember, very few talents have experience working as full time streamer (as in, make a living) until they were hired

>> No.75294414

>>75293606
Marine is one of the many who have experienced what vtubing is like when you don't have a brand to carry you. She's never going to leave.

>> No.75295241

>>75292000
Anon... Have you heard of Coco and Rushia? Not only they where above 1 Mill each, but they where the 2 most profitabile vtuber in the world. So profitabile, that to this day, 2-3 years after their graduation, they are still nr1 and 2 most SC vtuber în the world.

Also, there is no gaslighting. You obviously don't know, but Marine got her channel demonetized before. In fact the restictions came in place after Hololive was hit with an Wave of demonetizations.

>> No.75295345

>>75294201
Nonsense. Hololive doesn't hire unexperienced streamers, they didn't even în their early days.

>> No.75295426

>>75295345
A-anon? Do you not remember Korone, or hell, more recently Mori?

Hell, let me grab the copypasta

>>71552424
>Hoo boy, I keep hearing absolute horror stories about Korone's debut. It's actually insane how far she's come from that horrible, horrible stream. Talk about an idol journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qap7HFEx_oM
>had no idea how to stream
>weird music was playing superloud
>stream overlay was broken
>no prep she had nothing to talk about
>showed her manager’s discord message having a meltdown on stream
>was pissing off the listeners
>korone was acting like its fine and didnt care
>couldnt even use her avatar right
>called okayu before okayu even debutted on stream
>okayu started panicing almost crying asking fubuki for help
>fubuki and mio barged on stream legit telling off korone she cant show discord messages on stream
>korone laughed it off thinking it was banter and didnt take em seriously
>stream kept breaking coz korone didnt know how to setup obs and shit
>impromtu collab during her debut with fubuki and mio to just skip the debut and play splatoon to save the stream

>> No.75295765

>>75295426
Based.

>> No.75296199

>>75293208
>It's gonna happen! my head canon! my dream scenario! just you see REEEEEEE!!!

Sister....

>> No.75296743

>>75295426
It's not that surprising. There are a lot of retards /here/ that don't watch streams.

>> No.75296919

Hololive has taught me that women are better when they live under a strict code of conduct.

>> No.75298014

>>75287228
aw hell naw

>> No.75298245

>>75287228
Just like sony right?

>> No.75300636

>>75287180

>> No.75300747

>>75287551
There is a cultural difference where the JP talents are more likely to defend management for being foolish or sexist while the EN talents won't even hide their anger. There are some corporate restrictions that are needed because Hololive is a large company with sponsors but stuff like coomerbait is purely done to increase revenue.

>> No.75300917

>>75287551
Didn't Kronii tell off a manager so hard that she got yelled at or something?

>> No.75301095

Marine essentially saying she'd be just as bad as any other western roastie if it wasn't for management.
But we already knew this.

>> No.75301565

>>75287819
>Yakuza
The Yakuza is an old meme. They are basically glorified telephone scams at this point.

>> No.75301891

>>75287228
Fuck off mutt, there's a reason why everyone repudiated the HoloUS announcement even the typical hugboxes like leddit and twatter, nobody likes burgermutts, NOBODY.

>> No.75301947

>>75287631
>we
KYS

>> No.75301985

>>75301891
>everyone
you mean esl retards who couldn't read that it was a distribution hq.

>> No.75302011

>>75287680
I'm a Mexican spic and i laughed so hard with this post

>> No.75302226

>>75287819
the yakuza are basically extinct in this day and age

>> No.75302254

>>75287180
This will only convince the illiterate retards who can't read more/comprehend than two sentences; basically the entirety of the Nijisanji Defense Force.

>> No.75302294

>>75287942
that sounds like another random side mission in a yakuza game

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>>75288286
>>75288314
isreal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.75302402

>>75293994
>counterpoint: Fubuki is still in the company.
Fubuki "felt" Cover had done no wrong to Coco which is why she's still in the company.

>> No.75302470

>>75302226
yeah, hangure took their place.

>> No.75302534

>>75290026
the donkey kong/ king kong copyright infringement?

>> No.75302570

>>75290160
>Marine not being able to do her gross coomer garbage is a good thing
Only if you're an unironic fag

>> No.75302754

>>75300917
She told off someone who had the gall to try and grief her current manager in front of her in public.

>> No.75305099

>>75287328
this killed PekoMiko

>> No.75306842

>>75287228
lol LMAO even

>> No.75307595

>>75293847
>China lost confidence because an anime girl said Taiwan
KWAB

>> No.75307658

>>75287180
No shit. Anyone not in the holobubble understands this.

But corpos gonna corpo.

>> No.75307887

>>75301891
t. Is mad they didn't up Holo Papua New Guinea

>> No.75309598

>>75293863
>>no collabs
Green bar show collabs happening between her Taiwan suspension and graduation announcement. The collabs went down a bit, but "no collabs" is false. Plus, this doesn't include reddit shitposts.
>no chat interaction(not providing mods to clean up the chat
Mods would help, not sure why they didn't let her have mods, but the only real solution was member-only chat, which didn't exist at the time.
>but actually giving spammers mod rights
This is the only thing with some meat that could give your argument some validity. Even then, you can attribute this to some retarded mod who miss clicked to mod instead of ban, who knows.
>no sponsorships
Remember when chinks cried on twitter when she got an Asus sponsorship, and Asus JP cancelled it? Coco was sponsorship radioactive, and chinks would start attacking any company that would sponsor her.
This could go both ways, it was a shit situation for everyone involved, I wouldn't rule the banishment room theory either, but I don't think it was as clear-cut as you made it out to be.

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>>75309598 (me)
Forgot the pic

>> No.75311396

>>75293863
Shhhh, don't present facts. Holobronies still think that getting BTFO of China wasn't a massive disaster and resulted in Niji gaining far more global influence due to Cover losing the biggest economy in the world

>> No.75311710

>>75287551
What happened with gura?

>> No.75312306

Nooo, you can't show that Holo-management have huge flaws and have knowingly put the talents under a lot of stress, to the point of crying, that's not allooooowed, it's not faaair.
I hated management after the VOD-raping holocaust, especially Shubas. Fuck'em.

Faggots like >>75290160 are the new fanbase.
Normalfaggot prudes, both in Japan and internationally.
I washed my hands of the company. Both them and Nijisanji are rotten now.

>> No.75312847

>>75312306
What do you watch now? Indies?

>> No.75314075

>>75305099
FUCK HER MANAGER

>> No.75314100

>>75309598
>she got an Asus sponsorship
retarded newfag

>> No.75314434

Unicorn here, the problem is japan entertainment culture is changing but very slowly but being japan any change at all is met with extreme backlash and attempts to use anything they can to stop all change. Doesn't help vtuber are idol adjacent which my god does the japan idol culture need to change faster than they are. I'm a unicorn but some parts of idol culture like permissions are fucking pathetic

>> No.75314501

I don't buy it though, you can see the other agencies with way less restrictions. When's the last time you heard of a vtuber's channel being deleted? They still get sponsors and all that? I still think they're being overly cautious.

>> No.75314557

Wow, crazy Stockholm syndrome of abusive work environments.
Japanese companies are literally evil.

>> No.75314622

My faith in Cover went from a 100 to negative 69 this year alone. They're really mistreating their talents now and it probably explains why Cover's in the red right now

>> No.75314624

>>75314434
They need to import more foreigners to help change idol culture

>> No.75314670

For contast, nijisanji's management sees less strict, but as it turns out, they seemingly only do anything I'd they absolutely have to.
I only bring up niji here because they're often compared with holo. Both are rotten to the core and need to be abolished regardless

>> No.75314715

I've now seen one too many horror stories to care about hololive's restrictions anymore.
I now understand that a vtuber agency just taking care of their talents is sadly not a guarantee. So if the trade off for them being well taken care of is that maybe they don't get to be as lewd as they want, or they have to not swear as much as they otherwise might have, I'll take it.

>> No.75314766

Even management cant stop themselves of bullying Marine.

>> No.75314767

>>75314100
Ok, I recalled that wrong, but there's no doubt it happened because of Coco. This is precedent that the chinks would try to pull any available levers to cancel any kind of sponsorship.

>> No.75314813

You can get your point without chewing out and harassing your talents - but I get this is too much for japanese corpo culture, expecting managers not to go on power trips...

>> No.75314855

Wow the management is managing , meanwhile the...nvm

>> No.75314906

This all sounds like a terribly toxic relationship. Put any of these things in any other situation and people would flip out

>> No.75314963

I must say after switching to Phase Connect Cover's been on a fucking death spiral for credibility. I can't wait to see the look on Holofags' faces when that financial report comes out kek

>> No.75314992

>>75314767
somehow they didn't manage to cancel her collab with intel which she got mere months after leaving hololive, even though intel china has 12000 employees
almost like when you remove hololive's managers from the equation everything is fine

>> No.75315010

Ultimately, Cover Corp is a corporation. It exists to enrich its owners, not to protect its employees. Every decision is ultimately made to that end.

>> No.75315023

>>75300917
No. She yelled at some söyboy staff member who was being an asshole to her manager. All he could do was look down at his feet like a dejected puppy whilst she yelled at him.
In Hololive, the talents have more sway than some random staff monkey, so she was never punished for this.

>> No.75315053

>>75314992
Remind me again what were the chinks demanding when the Taiwan shit happened.

>> No.75315057

Sounds kinda gaslighty of managers a bit desu. The way she explained it.

>> No.75315110

I don't know, it kind of sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.

>> No.75315130

>>75315053
they wanted her to be suspended which cover happily agreed to
then they wanted her to be isolated which cover also agreed to
then they wanted her out of hololive which cover also agreed to
great job managers

>> No.75315158

I feel like cover is a bit… overprotective? Yeah some videos and streams can get demonetised depending on the content, but youtube allows content that is not necessarily family friendly to stay on the paltform. Lots of huge youtubers are not family friendly at all.
The sponsorship thing might be the reason, since Marine does get a lot of them, but is it really worth it if it frustrates her so much and if she’s depressed all the time?

>> No.75315163

>>75315130
I get it, you are retarded.

>> No.75315214

this isn't specific to marine but i have been watching less hololive content recently because it has started to feel fairly sanitized in a way that make it less interesting to watch, i've been watching indies a lot more lately

>> No.75315258

Marine transfer to PC (phase connect) i bet no restriction special for her . . . LMAO

>> No.75315267

>>75315163
i actually meant she's an ungrateful whore who didn't appreciate how masterfully almighty cover-sama protected her from the chinese harassment which they totally didn't cause or direct at her

>> No.75315314

This is one of the reasons why I never could fully connect with Hololive and eventually stopped watching, even if I liked the members.

I get that managment is being strict for good reason and having zero rules can lead to disaster, but I can't get invested into talents who are on a short leash. That's why I diverted my attention to Niji (before they turned out to be a shitshow), and prefer agencies like Phase Connect and Idol, plus indies of course.

>> No.75315374

>>75288091
Not click baiting you fool
Why is Cover deep in the red right now?

>> No.75315420

>>75288237
Both Holo and Niji are fucking shit. Japanese corposlop gets the rope
>>75288638
Bamco invalidates your claim. They've thrived since their move.

>> No.75315466

>>75292000
No fucking shit. Thread should have ended right here.

>> No.75315484

>Phasefags ITT begging people to stop watching hololive and watch their corpo
It's so obvious

>> No.75315522

>>75293208
Rushia deserves better man, she's doing quite well, why are Cover so chickenshit to block contact with her? Are they scared she has information on them to sue?

>> No.75315560

>>75287180
>literal yiddit tier two digit IQ retard pretending to be smart
I know you cant into japanese [/spoiler]because imagine putting in the effort right?[/spoiler], but you could at least watch the clip itself.
tl:dr
>the company makes sure we make money and keep making money
Fucking two iq niggers trying to change something they dont even understand just because they masturbate to wiggers pretending to be japanese.

>> No.75315588

>>75296919
Some restrictions are good such as no males and no dating but permissions are fucking autistic

>> No.75315599

>>75287228
First part is based.
Second part is retarded.

>> No.75315601

>>75315267
Cover either closed an entire branch for Coco, or they wanted to kick her out from the start. You can't have it both ways.

>> No.75315639

>>75300747
And this is why the EN model is objectively more successful
>>75301891
Rent free YWNBJ

>> No.75315640

>>75315522
>thinking the woman who is willing to sue literally everyone possible (even people who post cat memes to annoy her) wouldn't already have tried to go after Cover by now

>> No.75315718

>>75311396
This was true until Selen, the reverse happened and now Nijisanji dominates Japan while Hololive dominates overseas. But it's only a matter of time the overseas crowd wakes up to shit like this being the norm and it can be enough to make them turn on Cover for its own rotten bullshit. In any case, indies are the future of the industry regardless. Corposlop is on a crash course to its irrelevancy worldwide and EN VTubers make up the lion's share of the market.

>> No.75315733

>>75315601
holoCN closed because it was jointly owned with bilibili who kicked them out, then cover got rid of coco to wipe their hands off the situation

>> No.75315772

>>75314624
Unironically fire Fagoo and replace him with Jap. Ditch Japanese corporate autism and set up the new main headquarters in Texas instead of California. Adopt the EN model for Hololive. It will become the worldwide leader in VTubing if so.

>> No.75315806

>>75315733
lmao, you are literally retarded.

>> No.75315819

>>75315640
Because she's gaining evidence for her case, do reps

>> No.75315851

>>75315772
Can you circumvent JP autistic copyright laws by doing that?

>> No.75315876

>>75315806
is this your go-to line when you don't have an answer?
you didn't have anything to say about the intel stuff either

>> No.75315929

Now that the cat's out of the bag, why didn't Coco sue Cover? She had a case and she would have not only won, but could have dramatically altered the course of VTubing history if what is being said was in fact true

>> No.75315980

>>75315851
Some but not all. Devs who have operations solely in Japan may not

>> No.75315994

>>75315718
>holo is just like niji
>niji is bad, but holo is just as bad
lol, lmao even

>> No.75316062

>>75315876
OK, i'll explain it to you like you are retarded
>Coco does Taiwan yab
>chinks demand her to get fired (no ifs or buts)
>Cover leaves China
>chinks get mad and decide to cancel an Asus (a Taiwanese company) sponsorship
>Coco leaves hololive after 10 months
>now she can do sponsorships because she's not in hololive anymore

>> No.75316063

>>75315994
None of what I said was wrong corpodrone
Niji's bullshit is at least well-known, Cover's being a worst-kept lie is what objectively makes it worse.

>> No.75316130

>>75287819
Even at their peak, the yakuza were never as rich and armed as the cartels, they were subtle while the cartels are literally the strongest Latin American army.

>> No.75316134

>>75316062
>now she can do sponsorships because she's not in hololive anymore
so if the chinese were the problem, why can she get sponsorships outside of hololive when the chinese still exist and still hate her?

>> No.75316170

>>75315772
This. Also cut all contacts with Japanese sponsors and scrap the studio on Japan and move all of the equipment into the US.

>> No.75316181

>>75316134
Did you miss the part where I said that they wanted her out of hololive? That's all that they demanded. That's why I asked you what were their demands.

>> No.75316206

>>75292000
i will fix that attrocious tl:dr
>Its better for profits
>profits are good for you
Lmao, lying faggot.
>The first +mil holo goes indie
Hm, like Coco? Like Rushia?
>Shares her experience with the rest
Hm, like coco? Like rushia? Like Mel?
Or maybe even Sana or Aloe?
>>75315466
>samefagging this hard

>> No.75316254

>>75314434
You are severely brain damaged.

>> No.75316262

>>75316181
so some chinese faggot nerds can make cover do whatever they want because they're too stubborn to just let coco assign her own mods
amazing company

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>>75316063
lol, lmao even

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>>75315484
What the shit did Phase do to you other than somehow get it right? The more you stray from reality the more deluded you are

>> No.75316319

>>75316278
I'm bashing on Phase, only on their autistic fanbase that like to start tribal wars here.

>> No.75316336

>>75316170
Pretty much, the last samurai won't admit this has to happen for the long term health of Cover though

>> No.75316371

>>75316319
>I'm not bashing on Phase

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>>75316271
You deflect because you know it's true. Nijisanji gets the rope too btw. The industry and its sentiments from the fans are changing and it's going against Cover's model.

>> No.75316397

>>75316278
Its just 2 retards samefagging their own posts and farming (you)s
Nothing to do with niji, holo or phase - or any other corpo. They just have an imaginary chip on their shoulder, cant help but seethe.
This type of nigger came to /vt/ during the dramafaggotry. Everything to them is drama and worthy of a fight.

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>>75316319
We live rent free in your heads, Coverdrone. Maybe you shouldn't have gotten too big for better or worse. Now you get the criticism you fucking deserve.

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>>75316397
Mad you can't take the heat, shill?

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>>75316391
>holo gets the rope
>niji gets the rope too
>holo is just like niji
>niji is just as bad as holo
lol, lmao even

>> No.75316529

>>75316489
>posts the only Holo willing to call out its toxic leadership for what it is
ngmi lad

>> No.75316538

>>75316482
>(you)
happy now dramanigger?

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>>75316489
Sometimes I forget I'm dealing with a single digit IQ retard at times
Try reading my posts again

>> No.75316600

>>75316529
She literally told everyone to stop criticizing management.

>> No.75316621

>>75316529
>only reads headlines
learn japanese or go back to redit

>> No.75316633

clip shills should be banned honestly

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>>75316538
I accept your concession bud, really appreciate it! :^)

>> No.75316688

>>75316600
>>75316633
>LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE
KWAB

>> No.75316693

>>75315851
You can't as long as you employ Japanese people that live in Japan. JP branch needs to be abolished and most of them would end up getting fired.

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>>75316592
>niji is bad
>holo is bad
>all corpo bad
lol, lmao even

>> No.75316733

>>75316600
>>75316621
>no proof
I see you have no further argument bud
Must suck punching up to Daddy huh?
KWAB
:^)

>> No.75316751

>>75287180
>clickbait title
>right after enna gets suspended for paying some tranny to beat up a plushy of dokibird on her twitter and cosplaying as her

>> No.75316773

>>75316693
I wonder how many last samurai would cope when most of JP is a waste of space anyways especially the male collabers and whores that don't stream

>> No.75316800

>>75316688
Yes that's what marine said. Why won't you criticize her for saying "LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE"?

>>75316733
Why are you pretending to watch Marine and then denying things that literally happened in her stream from a week ago?

>> No.75316823

>>75316713
>posts someone who was a victim of black company bullshit
really ngmi lad

>> No.75316865

>>75316823
>victim of black company
Yes, she was a victim of nijisanji fans harassing her for what she said on a PL account.

>> No.75316883

>>75316800
She's being gaslit and knows she's being gaslit but for her own safety told the retarded pigs to not attack Cover for their Judaism

>> No.75316935

>>75316865
And Holofags didn't take part in it either?

>> No.75316950

>>75316633
Its the result of glorified chatbots and botnets deciding on what is profitable and what is not. Just like effortposting is no longer appreciated, but shitposting is.
Clipniggers coast on a bygone glory where they actually provided a service. The only service they now provide is allowing millions of immigrants to turn a clean hobby into a diverse hellhole. These people dont speak japanese, only read headlines and think they should project their own cultural morals on another culture. A culture they invaded. They are trying to erect their mosques in a catholic country.

These people cant create, they can only steal and destroy. They have been watching vtubers long enough to learn japanese, but havent even tried.

>> No.75316984

>>75316800
>i-it didn't happen
>what is lying to your retarded fans to save face
that's japanese autism in a nutshell kek
rmyt
kwab

>> No.75316999

>>75316935
Why would holofags care about nijisanji members?

>> No.75317044

>>75316950
>l-leave the billion dollar corporation alone!!!
kwab

>> No.75317043

>>75316984
>>i-it didn't happen
You're the one saying that. You said i-i-it didn't happen, not me.

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>>75316935
>niji
>BUT HOLO JUST AS BAD THOUGH
lol, lmao even

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Honestly pathetic how Coverdrones damage control in every thread they're given acceptable criticism of their coal company. Keep seething at imaginary boogeymen btw, we live rent free in your tiny brains :^)

>> No.75317176

>>75317100
The thread is literally about holo.

>> No.75317186

>>75317100
>still didn't even bother to read the earlier points made about respective black companies' bullshit
I see you're a downie too

>> No.75317278

>>75317044
imagine hating companies so much that you throw a tantrum and lie about them simply because they make profit my god you seethe so much you should seek out a doctor

>> No.75317331

>>75317278
They also exploit and gaslight their employees all in the name of the greedy owners but you do you retardo

>> No.75317345

>>75287180
FFS at least watch the video you fucking brainlet monkeys.
She explicitly say that the reason management is on their ass is because they are afraid of Youtube doing a Youtube and deleting their channel.
Remember that if it wasn't for Youtube we would have fucking swimsuit outfits.

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>>75317186
lol, lmao even

>> No.75317394

>>75317345
Already did and I know she's just trying to protect her status because if she went further she'd be fired in no time. How gullible are you?

>> No.75317410

>>75287819
The yakuza cant beat the cartels, cartels are heavily armed and dont care about mass civilian deaths if you want a fight.

>> No.75317419

>>75317345
its just one idiot samefagging

>> No.75317446

>>75317345
>defending blatant gaslighting
ngmi lad
>>75317364
I accept your concession

>> No.75317459

>>75317394
>it was real in my mind
And other great stories.

>> No.75317476

>>75317345
Everyone already knows Marine wants to be a whore.

>> No.75317491

>>75317410
BASADO
I will now support a move to Mexico

>> No.75317533

>>75317345
Because Marine is a whore and wants to be one, next?

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>>75317446
>concession
>checkmate y'all
lol, lmao even

>> No.75317592

>>75317345
Retard that's just because Marine is upset she can't be a whore

>> No.75317642

>>75317459
>what is subtlety
And other things you ignore to cope
>>75317545
Have another (You) downie

>> No.75317688

>>75317592
>can't be a whore
But she is one

>> No.75317711

>>75317345
>if it wasn't for Youtube we would have fucking swimsuit outfits.
That's complete bullshit when Marine's new MV has a scene that looks like a scene from a hentai DVD.
The real reason is Cover not wanting to pay for over 40 unique models.

>> No.75317733

>>75317592
>implying Marine is not a whore
lol
lmao

>> No.75317770

>>75317345
She's hiding something though by her tone

>> No.75317775

>>75317711
Why did they stop using the swimsuit models they already had?

>> No.75317812

>>75317775
Because they're Jewish

>> No.75317816

>>75317688
>>75317733
She is one, but Cover is restricting her. That's the point.

>> No.75317830

>>75317775
To make it clear that there won't be any new ones in the future.

>> No.75317834

>>75287180
Not only do I hate the click bait niggers I hate the ones that do ... at the end

>> No.75317848

>>75317812
>>75317830
Why do I bother talking with retards...

>> No.75317867

>thumbreaders

>> No.75317880

>>75317816
I hope she goes full whore and gets fired then

>> No.75317898

If holofags knew what Marine was like before hololive they would deny ever having liked her.

>> No.75317921

>>75317775
Because they know why they won't make new ones and the real reason angers and confuses the drones

>> No.75317934

>>75317848
What's retarded about what I said, retard?

>> No.75317961

>>75317848
They haven't though. The standardized slop doesn't count

>> No.75317995

>>75317898
If holofags knew what most of the whores were like before hololive they would deny ever having liked any of them.
Phase, idol, and indies have very few whores in comparison. that's why people like them more now

>> No.75318094

>>75317934
At this point, making a 3D model is cheaper than a Live2D one. Your point makes no sense.

>> No.75318207

>>75318094
That's not why they won't make them again retard

>> No.75318233

>>75318207
Explain.

>> No.75318361

>>75318094
And? Cover clearly does not want to spend the money on making 40+ new models.
Your argument that it's all youtube's fault makes even less sense when 1. they all got swimsuits anyways and 2. Marine just put out an MV that has a scene that could be literally used as a hentai anime scene.

>> No.75318383

>>75318233
Figure it out yourself why it's clear they won't make any swimsuits again

>> No.75318424

>>75318233
They don't want to spend the money and you and I both know why they don't

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Good thread

>> No.75318567

>>75318424
I don't, if you are not willing to explain, so we can actually talk about what you mean and that way I can address your points, why do you bother posting in the first place?

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lmao nice thread Covercucks

>> No.75318768

>>75318567
The reason for there being no new unique swimsuits is that Cover does not want to spend money to make over 40 new 3D models when they can just make one. How do you still not understand this?

>> No.75318839

>>75318768
Those don't even count as swimsuit models. It's just the same sanitized slop only consoomers would find acceptable.

>> No.75318939

>>75318839
They count for Cover. The new idol outfit is also made with less effort than the old one.

>> No.75318954

>>75318939
Sad

>> No.75320230

Phase vermins are the next ones on the chopping block.

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>> No.75320611

>>75316592
I wonder if her brother still fucks her after she left her dad die of coof.

>> No.75323851

>>75287228
????????

>> No.75324633

>>75317898
What was she like before Hololive?

>> No.75326132

>>75287180
i want to give her a football team, help me ichimi...

>> No.75327228

>>75324633
Couldn't keep her legs closed.

>> No.75327230

>>75320589
That's true, There is literally no anatomical reason for a woman to like anal.

>> No.75327285

>>75327228
Proof?

She is just a internet whore, irl she is just a prude.

>> No.75327360

>>75287228
This is the beginning of the whole permission autism btw.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/1121

>> No.75327510

>>75317898
>>75317995
proof next thread?

>> No.75327634

>>75327285
>irl she is just a prude.
Proof?

>> No.75327842

>>75327228
Sure thing, sister.

>> No.75327843

>>75327510
Don't bother anon, they fail to understand that barely anyone cares about that stuff as long as it's separated from their main account. I mean, there's no need to go back to something that probably happened years ago, when there's already an active member who does stuff on her PL, and nobody cares.

>> No.75327936

>>75287180
>Clickbait
>Misrepresentation
>Deflection post

>> No.75327947

>>75327634
If she were a whore it wouldn't make sense that she magically stopped when she joined HL, when it's the time when she can have access to the best men. Plus, she's the only one of her group of friends who has never posted a scantily clad photo, or made a channel where ojisans pay to see her masturbate.


she can onlyy act like this on internet but IRL that girl is such a low experience virgin and it shows everytime she open her mouth.

>> No.75330596

Yeah

>> No.75332465

>>75327947
>He fell for the grift
Ngmi

>> No.75334331

>>75287180

>> No.75334332

>>75287180

>> No.75335382

>>75315023
That's hot

>> No.75335632

>>75287180
>constant samefag bumping a clickbait thread
>screenshot is as of 1 hour ago
OP is just shilling his own video.

>> No.75336250

>>75287180
>anon sees clip on YT
>anon cant into japanese
>lets post clip to /vt/
>they will love this clip!
I FUCKING HATE YOU

>> No.75337444

>>75315374
They're not. WTF are you talking about?

>> No.75337989

>>75315733
>bilibili who kicked them out
lol, revisionist ching chong

>> No.75338130

>>75311396
>BTFO of China
lol, bug revisionism. Cover dropped China, not the other way around. Chinese fans were crying that Cover wasn't putting enough content on their knockoff youtube.

>> No.75338401

>>75316336
This is by far the dumbest conversation I've ever seen on this board. Congrats, tards.
>Verification not required.

>> No.75338490

>>75314622
1) How?
2) They're not in the red. WTF are you talking about?

>> No.75338579

>>75338490
Don't look at the Cover stock anon.

>> No.75338604

>>75314963
Don't drag phase into this nijisister raid thread, faggot.

>> No.75338689

>>75315484
>Nijisisters ITT falseflagging as phasefags to try to stop taking constant Ls.

>> No.75338753

>>75315639
>EN model is objectively more successful
Lol, what is this nonsense?

>> No.75338829

>>75317331
>exploit and gaslight their employees
Commie gobbledegook detected

>> No.75338980

>>75338579
Oh, so you mean the stock is in the red, not the company itself. You should articulate your ideas better, you fucking retard.

>> No.75339114

>>75317147
Don't falseflag with Muyu, bitchfaggot. Girl's got it hard enough without picking up some random catalogue-schizo cuz of that shit.

>> No.75339434

>>75339114
Didn't she only debut just before Christmas? How is she already having issues?

>> No.75339821

>>75339434
She had issues before she joined. Family stealing money, dad died right before debut, some crazy shit like that if I remember correctly. Basically, most of phase are Sad Girls(haha), but Muyu is a sad girl(grim).

>> No.75340239

>>75339821
>dad died right before debut
That's just terrible, is she better now?

>> No.75340539

>>75287295
Sure it is bronie

>> No.75340617

>>75340239
Seems like it. She's tough to gauge for me. She's always laughing and happy sounding, but so was my cousin before he offed himself, so who knows really.

>> No.75344183

>>75327843
Yeah you TOTALLY do not care if your GFE vtuber has a boyfriend and several sexfriends and that's why you always try to argue that they "broke up" or some other bullshit.

>> No.75344291

>>75344183
You don't know me, faggot. Don't put words in my mouth.

>> No.75344383

>>75344291
This isn't about you personally. You said barely anyone cares when that's not actually true.

>> No.75344538

>>75344383
The falseflagging dramafags here are not the majority of hololive fans. So yes, nobody cares.

>> No.75344683

>Phasenighers are new holo-anti
Understand.

>> No.75345161
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She warned you fags
You didn't listen
Kneel

>> No.75345277

>>75344538
It sure is convenient how anyone posting anything you don't want to admit to is a "falseflagging dramafag"

>> No.75345316

And you wonder why Gura is not streaming. Who the hell would enjoy doing this?

>> No.75345388

bruh

>> No.75345401

>>75320230
As if you'd actually do anything. Phase runs this board now. Seethe.

>> No.75345460

Holocaust and its consequences ruined Cover forever

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>>75320230

>> No.75345718

>>75327947
dyrb

>> No.75345773

>>75345277
OK, let's say all of them are holofags, how many even come to /vt/ in the first place? 1000? There's more people watching Mori now than that. Yes, they are a minority.

>> No.75345892

>>75327843
>t. Newfag tourist
Everyone fucking cares about rm shit. Sukikira exists you know.

>> No.75345955

>>75345773
>suddenly numberfagging about posts and comparing them to ccv
Bizarre take

>> No.75346013

>>75345955
>whining about the most important part of this industry
Just shut the fuck up newfag

>> No.75346160

>>75345955
I'm putting thing into perspective, the majority of fans are there watching streams, not on 4chan. If seeing numbers makes you triggered so much, then that's beyond my control.

>> No.75346164

>>75346013
By your logic no one cares about anything because there's less posts about any one subject than anyone's ccv

>> No.75346215

>>75346160
See >>75346164

>> No.75346231

>>75345892
>Sukikira
Brain damage

>> No.75346272

>>75346164
>>75346215
Weird flex but OK

>> No.75346305

>>75345892
back to /jp/ you go, faggot.

>> No.75346328

>>75346164
>no one cares
My entire point was that they are a minority at best, Most of them are dramafags looking for YOUs.

>> No.75346336

>>75346231
>largest nip VTuber community on the Internet
Cope

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>>75345401

>> No.75346437

>>75346336
I thought we were talking about /vt/ here.

>> No.75346461

>>75346328
Yes everyone is a minority, even the people that like the vtuber.

>> No.75346471

>>75287819
The last time the Yakuza were extremely powerful was the Edo period

>> No.75346527

>>75345401
pfft

>> No.75346532

>>75346461
The only minority here is the active neurons in your head.

>> No.75346590

>>75346532
You are a minority. No one actually likes your oshit.

>> No.75346668

>>75309598
>not providing mods to clean up the chat
Suisei nominated three of her one year long members as temporary chat mod immediately the first time chinks attacked her chat then she continues playing Apex. For someone who screams le creativity freedom she sure doesn't know how to do things herself

>> No.75346705

>>75346305
You go back to r/Hololive, newfag

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>>75346590
Based Based Based

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>>75346668
She's a massive whore just like Marine

>> No.75346904

You don't care if your oshi has a boyfriend but you keep buying Valentine's day merch and dakis and shit like that? I don't know man, where I come from that's called cuckoldry

>> No.75346945

>>75317770
Your delusional fanfic doesn't count as 'something'

>> No.75347407

>>75346705
>bringing jp mindset here on vt
There's a reason we separated from you, retards

>> No.75347501

How many of you are flaseflaggers from the same discord?

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I don't get this attitude. Are you a grown ass adult? Are these your parents or your employers? How is it not reflexively enraging to be treated like this? An employer should not be lecturing you. Is it a cultural thing?

>> No.75348738

>>75344183
>>75327228
If Marine had sex friends in the past I’d lose all respect for her. Can’t admire a woman who puts it out for other men so casually, no matter how talented they are (it’s worse if they’re talented actually because it makes it more of an insult to her fans)

>> No.75351020

https://t.me/vtuberJP

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