/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7506327
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

>>7506327
Hikakin actually vtubing, with Kuzuha and Shibuhal with switching POVs which was cancer. Also sponsored by EA because, why the fuck not

>>7506327
>Hikakin being mogged by based Ibra
DEAD SUBS? DEAD SUBS!

>>7506678
I don't get the switch either. The whole sponsorship thing is fine. EA sponsored people like Noah to play Apex so it's not as if they only sponsor big numbers. Another thing is that the dude has collaborated with people like shaka, spygea and stylishnoob in Apex. He draws great numbers for the game.

>>7507006
Unless he is a full time streamer.

>>7506327
How do we save Hikakin bros?

>>7507324
Don't steam, make clip. Let streamers know YT is still a video website,not live stream.

>>7507324
His channel is full of dead subs and his superchat earnings are pitiful. 156 USD for a collan with the most popular corpo male and indie male? It's over. Graduation imminent.

>>7506327
DAAAMN, Miko beat Pekora yesterday and today she beat Marine. This is like the 4th day in a row she has been the top Hololive streamer. Obviously everybody expected her to be the top during her 3D Live but she has continued to take the top spot since then.

>>7506327
shouldve streamed at kuzuha channel's channel, wouldve gotten more

>>7507511
Everyone less than Coco's SC should graduate.

Views for July on playboard. TLDR Livers should hire editors for their channels. They can earn more money and get more views.

Gotta take a deep kneel to Ina here
>10k
For the past 15 days she didn't fail to clear 10k a single stream!

>>7507833
She's the most likable EN member and streams at consistent times.

>>7507799
Why are clipfags included here?

>>7507799
Youtube CPM is around 0.5 dolaridoos. That means those 33M views turn into 15k at the very top of the range (assuming each view saw an ad)

Not bad but most girls with enough power to pull 33M views would make that in superchat in the same month without the expense of hiring a fuil time editor (which would eat from the proceeds, making the whole exercise pointless).
Sushi may (or may not, I don't know if he monetizes) be making money but given the hourly rate for a translator and for an editor he would be paying to work, or at best offsetting his expense.

>>7507799
Another thing to point out is the fact that Holo channel had 16 uploads/streams for the month of July compared to the 47 of Niji. Many Niji vids don't go over above 100k views but they do pile up. Base performance for HoloVids are 200k+. Only ones that would hit 1M are HoloGra of course that they only do once a week.

>>7507799
Hal is amazing. he hired a crew to help him with management or he's doing it solo?

>>7507799
>>7507911

Why are there only EOP clippers here?

JP Clippers with 30 million views aren't on this list.

>>7508398
>only EOP clippers here?
Isn't #7 a JOP clipper?

>>7507897
Btw, she just announced her first single, in 30 mins on her channel

>>7508398
>>7508552
7 is a JP clipper. This Playboard. I don't know how they tag stuff. Can you show me a JP clipper that got a 30M view clip that happened last July?

>>7508631
Ina is smart. It makes perfect sense to release an MV when you go on breaks just like what Mori did. It feeds the algo, keeps your channel active and is a passive income. Gura should release covers at least. All covers that are not on her channel that features her is doing well

This is getting sad.

Funny how Ina became the underdog in EN just by being herself while Kiara became the lowest out of the ENs because she goes tryhard. Even the SC part, she's still second to Calli kek

Here is food for thought
> top be in the top 300 of playboard most viewed channels a channel would have to clear 260M views that month
Goes to show how far from mainstream streamers and virtual entertainers are nowadays.

It also shows how big an audience there is to chip out of the mainstream.

>17 in Ina song waiting room.
>only had 13k in stream
w h a t

>>7508981
people seeing the twitter notification, but don't know that she's streaming i guess. Or don't care about the chatting

>>7508981
It happened in the past with Aki and Mel but I'll be blunt and say you must have misread because that would be quite a cull if true and without precedent so far.

>>7508635
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCFht3Ite1H2fDF5_alQBgHQ

>>7509095
Plus people who don't normally watch her are going to watch the song. Sort of like how I don't really watch Mori stream that much but I eagerly await any song she puts out.

>>7509134
Nvm, you mean the other waiting room

>>7508081
Can you give me more numbers. Let me give an example. Marine got 490k views for her highlight vid that had full translations and composed of several streams. How much do you think that vid cost and how much do you think she earned from that?

https://youtu.be/VCsdilKt3Mg

That was a really soulful music video. Somehow the views got cut down a lot whenever a premier is happening, like I saw 26k going to 13k

>>7509747
Because people hated it

>>7509174
I don't see any tagging of Vtuber on Playboard. Probably why they weren't counted

Does HoloEN have the most original songs views(total)?

>>7510354
Probably by a long shot. All of their originals seem to perform extremely well and even the lowest performer (Kiara) has all her songs hitting 1 million.

Although, to be fair the EN originals track list is like 90% Calli, lol.

>>7510354
If there's a discography listing originals of others then I'd see but Mori's songs probably mean that the answer is yes.

>>7509747
This is what I expected most holos would produce as an original music that cannot sing well. A Simple song that has little frills that highlights their voice since that is what most people are attached to anyways but we get every version of Ahoy in different flavors. I liked it a lot. I hope this vid gathers a lot of views so that other holos will follow by example. I thought since Mogu Mogu was a success others will replicate that but nope.

Btw, REFLECT surpassed flos(okayu),Say fanfare(FBK), and Live again(Mori).Alien Alien(Sora) is the next.
It is almost the top 10 viewed song in Hololive.

Any predictions for the AmeSame streams?
https://youtu.be/e-WXpylijus
https://youtu.be/2k61CPt_1Zo

>>7510772
Since vtubers are not pro-singer, their original songs should be special or storytelling(about their lore) rather than pop song, I guess.

>>7509665
>How much do you think that vid cost
It depends. If they used inhouse staff it costed "only" their time, as their cost is already sunk in the monthly cost.
I put only in quotes because that's exactly what makes Japan to have such a shitty workplace ethics, people are expected to do their own jobs and then overtime doing what would be other people jobs.

Now, if they would hire a full time english translator in japan it would set them back north of 70k/year (assuming Japan is like every other civilized country where the state taxes the employer more money the employee takes home).
That would cover only translating a transcript provided by the editor. Someone would still have to watch through all of the talent videos of that period, select the best parts, edit and transcribe.
A person doing that full time would not be less expensive than the translator so add another 70k to the expense.

All in all that would mean an expense of 140k dollars/year on staff alone, not counting the "materials" (in this case hardware, software licenses), for one pair of people.

That would mean that ad revenue on the translated videos would have to be around 11k / month to break even.
Cover and Anycolor would both benefit massively from having every stream VOD translated, and from creating their own clips for most talents.

The thing is
>the community does it for free
>they also do it much better because they do it for their oshi (for the most part)

That last point is important because what the fans know about their oshis (both the person and the body of work, the inside jokes and the memes) are sometimes more than even the current manager assigned to them.

Anyway, about numbers, I assume at very least 11k dollars per month on ads to break even on hiring one editor and one translator, meaning having to get at very min (assuming 0.5CPM and perfect ad watching by the audience) 22M views per month, every month
>to break even

>>7506327
Now that Hikakin has tried out vtubing, do you think he'll make something like UUUM vtubers?

>>7511218
I'll make a "bold" prediction: he will drop every gimmick he picked up during his chase for the 10M subs exactly like Pewds did in his chase for100M, the millisecond he reaches it

>>7511218
No, not all of UUUM have gaming channels and there's no point in shoving vtuber shit on your main channel that revolves around IRL skits. Like anon said this is just to boost his numbers to 10mil because he ran out of ideas

>>7511487
There is a channel called Junya using Tiktok clips to gain 9M subs less than a year(almost the same creation time as Gura's debut)

>>7511140
I know they have an in-house translator. The dude's style of translating stuff is always hilarious to me. Then again they do have bi-lingual managers that may or may not be doing the translations for them. Marine and Suisei commented that the EN managers are very fluent in JP. Manager positions in JP are notorious of being a jack of all trades sort of profession. The Vods for July on their official channel was 25,806,391 so they are certainly getting their money's worth if it was only 1 translator (which is likely). I do know they also do translation on other things like the Bloom DVD, the HoloProject Radio show and Polka's Legend of Polka

daily morning mogging
kiara should just graduate. what an embarassment

>>7511631
Part of the reason Hikakin is panicking

>>7511693
ENTER

>>7511693
how does he do it...

>>7511692
>I know they have an in-house translator
You know they have someone in house that translated 4 hours of videos in the past three weeks of their channel, with the one bringing the bulk of the views (Hologra) being a 3 minutes scripted short that the writers can have the lines translated simultaneously when writing them.
it doesn't mean they have a translator for that, knowing Japanese workplace culture they likely got A-Chan or even one of the EN managers to do it from home (or worse, in office) as unpaid overtime, mostly because yes, it is fun and a way to get your creative output appreciated when your job is a menial one.

Even with the 25M views per month they would barely break even if they hired a dedicated pair of clipper and translator.

They would be better off hiring a SEO expert and fix the shitty tags and descriptions the talent use in their videos. That alone would net them more money for less effort than making what the community already provides fo free

>>7512042
Cause this is special, not an ordinary game

>>7511693
He just ripped off of Mio and he isn't even putting up numbers as good as her when she did it.

>>7512113
No it's a daily show for the month of August, not a game.

>>7512131
Didn't realize Mio invented the concept of Radio Calisthenics

>>7512135
I mean this is special compares to normal game stream, so people are more curious.

>>7512131
he and mio both ripped it off from something called real life

>>7511693
He even beats his own game streams in prime time.

>>7512174
I don't watch his sorry ass since I have a severe dislike of male vtubers and Nijisanji in general but Mio did the morning show gimmick first.

>>7512174
Of course. That's why they named it RadIO calisthetics, after MIO.
Revolutionary inventor of stretching in the morning

>>7512294
Are holobronies this retarded and delusional? Does existing inside a bubble give you brain rot?

>>7512067
I say that they do have an In-house because of the fact 3min holo gra is not the only thing they have translated there. You forgot that they have 25min long Holo Bonjour that shows up once a month, a 25min game show that shows up once a week, a 29min Hololive Radio project that shows up twice a month and the 10min Legends of Polka that shows up every week.

>>7512294
seethe

>>7512294
Wtf Mio is over 100 years old? How does she sound so young?

>>7512294
Where's Mio's archive of her radio calisthenics? I want to watch it too

>>7512413
Anybody who watches disgusting male vtubers doesn't deserve to watch Mio.

>>7512390
Eww I didn't know she was so old. Wtf I hate Mio now

>>7511692
They have an in-house translator and they also hire the services of some of the clippers who have top quality translations.

>>7512446
Sorry I watch YAGOO

>>7512294
what? you want to sex fuwa minato from nijisanji? that's what you just said anon?

>>7512131
What numbers was Mio putting up? His first four streams have averaged 15006, 25578, 31980, 29333 viewers so far.

>>7512490
Is T-chan the dude that is handling their Reddit?

>>7512369
I mentioned that in the post: 4 hours of translated content in 3 weeks, out of which 90% of the views come from the 3 minutes short.

>>7512617
I'm searching Mio raji taiso right now and not getting anything, if a Holofriend could help me out I'd appreciate it
Or did it get privated?

>>7512640
Yep

>>7512294
>>7512413
>>7512695
Mio morning show
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1g7411r728

>>7512695
Privated and even entertaining the idea of responding to the person that threw both the bait and the first response to it is silly

>>7511693
It's why Asacoco got big, Stream at the same time everyday, Gives you something simple to understand or do, incorporates other members as well.
It's genius.

>>7512617
>>7512695
Here

>>7512801
Golden Week special? Aren't the circumstances different then

>>7512861
nijicope

>>7512861
do you think Japan just shuts down during golden week?

>>7512861
It's just a holiday. No different from any other week

Curious to see how well this will fare
>Towa bday
She did a poor job advertising it but her fans (what's their name, even, Towettes?) are doing a good job getting the word out

>>7512670
Just checked their recent Vods and it looks like that they are outsourcing the translations and letting T-Chan handle the QA for the most part. Even Jin is getting a piece of the pie

>>7512968
My estimate is about 60k peak

>>7512801
I still think they're different. It's retarded to compare but one is a radio and the other is radio calisthetics which are two different things. She's talking to people here and Fuwa is doing morning exercises.

>>7512968
40-60k, not popular enough sadly, Well getting 50k would be decent for her.

>>7513045
You already got it wrong. Mio's had no mention of radio

>>7512968
how much did matsuri get? 10-15k less for towa

>>7512985
Good politics. Spreading the wealth and to people that already proved they're capable.

>>7512968
>>7513022
60k is generous but possible if all things goes her way. Maybe 40k is realistic. Her last one got 32k on a Saturday. Maybe she will get better numbers on a Sunday.

>>7512968
Like most of the 3D lives we got recently, it depends on who the guests are and how many she's bringing in. Towa solo is probably 40k, but with guests, we could see 50-60k.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/TjhOZn1vNW4
Her last 3D live was in April with Suisei and Leona as guests and it got 32k. So our estimations might be a bit bold. I'm curious if it'll affect Aqua's 3D live numbers since it's happening 1 day after Towa's, which might kill some of the 3D hype since they're back to back.

>>7513170
Matsuri got 45k for her 3D live.

>>7513240
Didn't they pushed it a week after to clear the day for Aqua? Maybe I'm misremembering.

>>7513293
She said something like
>I'll be singing with people I never sang before
That rules out Kanata, for instance.

>>7513093
Towa is known as a very good singer so she will get some people who don't really watch her but will tune in to see her sing so she will get a bit of a boost from that.

I'm thinking she will get more than Matsuri but less than Miko so yeah, I'm thinking 50-60k.

>>7512695
She didn't do raji taiso.
It was a morning show, Asa Mio. With a just woke up gyaku totsu
But the idea is still the same

>>7508744
>Gura put out Reflect, then took her usual 2-day break
>Mori put out two MVs during her break
>Ina releases an mv, break
>Kiara releases her best performing MV during a break.
Each of the gals should schedule it so their MV releases are followed by a short break/during extended breaks for sure.
One of the things that choked out Sparks was Kiara having both her B-day stream AND a collab sandwich the damn song.
>>7509197
Songs are a massive channel buff, both because YT LOVES songs, and it grabs people to watch that usually don't have the time to watch streams or don't usually watch streams for a particular chubba.
The effect is amplified when you have an active sub base. Violet is already at 134k views, a very good amount after only a little over an hour. Gonna hit a million very fast.

>>7513452
>they are different but because they both happened in the morning the idea is the same
???

>>7513508
Anyway, Fuwa can't stream in the morning time slot because that's copying!

>>7513508
you got it right, now cope

Since no one mentioned it in the previous thread, Ibrahim got 51k because he was hosting a Niji soccer tournament I think? It was the draft stream so it was short too. Not nearly as big as Koshien, but still a nice buffed number.

>>7513746
any info on how they are planning to do stream the tournament itself? multiple povs or one channel?

>>7512294
I want to think this is just bait to make holofags look bad because it really feels like it but the fact you know about such a thing leaves me to believe you really are just this retarded

Anons, please stop responding to the "Fuwa copied Mio" retard. He has been repeating it for the past 2 days already and will continue repeating it every day Fuwa continues to get big numbers in his morning streams. He's not going to respond to good will arguments. Just laugh at him, ignore him, and move on please.

>>7513866
Not bait, I legit have trouble containing my anger when I see anything related to Nijisanji, especially the males. I have to punch my desk to vent it out.

TokoyamiTowa's BIRTHDAY LIVE 2021 will definitely reach 100k
Screen shot this Nijiniggers

>>7513948
>big numbers
not as big as Mio got doing the exact same thing.

>>7513853
The description says they're 'playing with the original character created in the game'

>>7514036
Uhmm 100k is lowballing it. Obviously it will reach at least 300k. I'm dead serious

>>7513364
It'll likely be pre-recorded like most of the recent Holo 3D lives. Who knows? Maybe there's a performance Towa recorded in June with Coco or something lmao

>>7513853
I believe the previous soccer tournaments were all on someone's channel too. It's not as big of an event as Koshien so the Nijimales just host it on one of their channels.

its fine to cope holobros! Niji views will be back normal next month

>>7514230
Why are they choosing to have it prerecorded?

>>7514230
Yeah the guest spots are recorded, but i think going back as far as coco seems a stretch. Marine is pretty much guaranteed as a guest after her leak.Towa's solo songs will be live though she said.

>>7513240
>>7513293
Yea, 30k - 40k seems reasonable.

>>7513746
>>7514230
The previous soccer tournament was a small Fifa tournament by Peanuts-kun where one person controlled the entire team and iirc Naru won that one.

This is a PES tournament with 3 teams in a round robin, with each of the 33 players being controlled by a Niji liver.

>>7514467
>Why are they choosing to have it prerecorded?

>>7514467
All recent Holo 3D lives have been prerecorded because of Covid restrictions in their 3D studio.

>>7508961
wake me up when chuubas get 1m+ live viewers

>>7514467
It's still about the restrictions. It doesn't matter at this point. It's been apparent that pre-recorded or not, people still watch them as if they are live because of the fact it is a special event for the holo and most holos still hype them as such and give the event leeway on their schedule

>>7514521
That sounds more interesting to me than Niji Koshien

>>7513240
I think she's hurting her numbers by not announcing early on who are the guests. If her Usaken members shows up, it will drive up the stream to 100k easy

>>7514467
There's a couple of reasons to pre-record it.
1) Covid is bad in Japan right now, so it's not a good idea to have a lot of people in the studio

2) A lot of holomems are very busy with commitments from sponsors, practice, lessons, recordings, streams...etc. If you have a 3D live with 13 guests like Marine, it'll be almost impossible for all 13 holomems to all be free on the same day to show up and record a 5 min performance.

3) July and August were packed months in terms of events. With so many birthdays, subscriber milestones, and anniversaries, everyone wants to do 3D lives and the studio is apparently booked all the way till Oct 2021.

A bit of a personal opinion, but I don't really notice much difference between a live and pre-recorded 3D live in terms of enjoyment. You miss out on some post-performance banter between the girls, but in return, you get better effects, way more guests than normal, and less technical issues (unless the file literally corrupts like Marine's bday live). The girls are still singing live and they don't talk to chat when doing 3D lives anyways.

its over...

>>7514775
IT is, but japanese loves baseball for some reason.

>>7511011
Gura is at 13k and Ame is at 7k. If Gura's numbers rise up by 8PM maybe her debuff is really the stream time. This stream is already buffed by the AmeSame tandem and that it is an MC END exploration stream. Kiara got 10k doing this alone

>>7514563
didnt nijis have a multi-people 3d live with band a week ago?

>>7514973
They just started their streans. Wait for them to reach their peaks.

>>7514901
I do like the pre-recorded events that they have been doing. Better transitions and effects. Maybe the next ones or even this Towa stream will have post song interactions but I'm not keeping my hopes up if she has a lot of guests.

>>7514901
>they don't talk to chat when doing 3D lives anyways.
How do we know it wasnt prerecorded before too?

>>7515054
she is aleready nearing te 15k
something that i notices is that gura stream wsnt being recomended the first 10 min but could be a pc browser glitch. so it is a timeslot debuff if she doesnt stream on NA prime.

>>7515119
They are probably doing those in separate 3D studios thus why it is a paid event. We are talking about free 3D streams here

>>7515171
>How do we know it wasnt prerecorded before too?
Mio puking on stream is a huge clue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFJ17oUCkBo

>>7515240
levi 3d debut tho?

So who's fault is it that made Gura change her usual timeslots? 9AM JST is usually her best time, but she's been pushing back her streams often this days.

>>7515119
They did, but Niji management isn't run by pussies.

>>7515171
By hearing them be out of breath half the time and with moments like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFJ17oUCkBo

Now they just cut away these parts

>>7515171
You probably don't watch the streams then. They sometimes react to chat real time. All their blunders are obvious on live 3D. You also see them walking out if they don't have transitions like what Suisei had on hers. It costs money to even bother

>>7515300
Original video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmUVwNut2-Y

15:00 for the laughs

>>7515119
>niji caring about some season flu

>>7515119
If you're talking about Levi's 3D debut, she had 2 live guests (Yumeoi and Kuzuha), and 4 people as her band. Around 1/3 of her debut was a pre-recorded zombie skit segment tho.

I think covid is a factor, but scheduling is probably a bigger reason. If Marine wants Korone or Aqua for her bday live, but they aren't available for that day, then just pre-record it.

>>7515304
Chima also was live.

>>7515167
I think there's still a certain charm to having it live. It's why the First Take youtube channel is a thing. It might not be the one perfect rendition but the feeling of someone's performance when it's live or only one take is hard to recreate. It really gets me hyped up.

For all of you people. NO 3D concert/performance is live. They are all pre-recorded.

>>7515304
She only had 2 real guests. The band was far away from her. How do you imagine risking at least 4 talents that are earning money for your company hundreds of thousands of dollars suddenly getting covid. It makes sense to be on the safe side

>>7515593
The first take are all recorded be it that it is just the first take. Holos can do the same amd premiere those intsead just like what First Take does

>>7515591
There is a live chat feed on niji 3d concerts, including latest AR live

>>7515459
Chima had no guests near her and none performing with her. The only guests she got were people chatting to her.

>>7515523
I mean, The First Take is literally the same as a pre-recorded 3D live (in essence, not quality ofc). It's a pre-recorded performance released as a VOD, rather than a livestreamed performance with no editing and cuts. I'm not going to accuse TFT of lying about only taking the first take, but if Lisa pukes her guts out in the middle of her first take, I'm pretty sure they'll let her redo it lol.

>>7515593
>suddenly getting covid
All it takes is one testing positive and everybody in the room gets 14 days mandatory quarantine

>>7515736
>Live chat feed
You really don't think people can chat on a pre-recorded video? That is just silly.

>>7515403
Wasn't this 2019. All concerts doesn't have any audience anymore

>>7515793
cope

>>7515793
So they just happened to show the exact same chats on screen that were happening in the chat? Or react to a poll posted while the AR concert was live? God damn Nijisanji future prediction technology is off the charts.

>>7515793
Why not just say it's pre-recorded then? Your idea of having to fake it not being pre-recorded sounds a lot more convoluted than just declaring it prerec or not

This is a terrible time slot for most asians and one of holos most loyal fanbases, the taiwanese. Everyone is probably preparing to go to work just like me.

>>7515896
The AR concert didn't have a live audience physically. AR can be done in multiple studios or rooms which is probably what they did. This is also a paid event. Why are you comparing that to a free concert???? Bloom happened this year. That one is also live with multiple people on the same stage

This stream
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/2k61CPt_1Zo
has EXACTLY what I was looking for

>Stream audience is capped at 8k
>Everytime it crosses 8k it immediately gets pulled back down, in equally spaced intervals

Hover the cursor over the chart and you'll see
>7.8
>7.9k
>8k
>uops, too high, 7.8k
>7.9k
>8k
>uops, too high, 7.8k
forming those "teeth" in the chart

>>7515850
>what is video editing
>>7515896
As far as reacting to the poll goes. Did you see the results to the poll? The result was overwhelming. They did this because the result was easily predictable so they could pre-record the reaction. Its similar to when the Hololive members reacted to Holofes trending #1 worldwide on twitter in "real time". It was obvious that that was going to happen so it was easy to record a "live" reaction.

No 3D concert/performance is live. They are all pre-recorded.

>>7515821
it was in May 2021

>>7516096
Youtube is such a shit website. I can't wait for them to start streaming on Twitch. As a numberfag I'm so sick of youtube's bullshit.

>>7516034
Not saying they had a live audience, just responding to the anon who thinks the concerts are prerecorded when they aren't. Very obvious that the AR concert didn't have an IRL audience.
But, free Niji3D lives and the concert both had chat as well as polls. Fuwa Minato's 3D had the chat on the screen.

>>7516096
I mean, I believe that CCV is shoddy and doesn't count "spam viewers" but this is getting a bit conspiratorial. It could just be that viewership has peaked. This is not the best time slot for Gura/Ame anyways and the numbers are kinda similar to their collab in January.

>>7515821
vtuberfes had audience, nijifes as well

>>7516096
>>7516182
>>7516287
Notice how the chart is a perfect straight line right below 8k, except when it "Is allowed to cross", when it rapidly increases over and is brought immediatelly down.

It it was any other inclination and any other threshold I wuold chalk as coincidence but
>exactly a straight line
>exactly 8k

That's too much coincidence

>>7516107
If you're talking about the Niji AR live, that really was live, as in not pre-recorded

>>7516287
Why they didn't stream 2 or 3 hours later like they always do?

>>7516372
What is the line supposed to look like then?

>>7516385
I an guarantee you with 100% certainty that it wasn't. I already explained the main examples people are using to show that it was "live". They are easily explainable.

>>7516468
Nta, but straight or more randomized.

>>7516385
No anon you don't get it, they purposefully showed the chat live feed and also lied about the poll in order to prove >>7516511 right on this indonesian rrat weaving board.

>>7516511
they named the results of the poll down to exact percentages, now cope

>>7516468
>What is the line supposed to look like then?
Like Marine's
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/TAUCLdM2KUY

People entering and leaving the stream at random, making a random shape and with uneven peaks and valleys
>not a straight line with equally spaced peaks crossing over and then down from exactly 8k

>>7516592
They didn't lie about the poll, you are missing the point. What they did was they selected a poll where the results were easily predictable so that their pre-recorded response to it would match the poll results in chat.

>>7516511
Your 100% certainty is not hinged on proof but on your own speculations. Maybe examine your biases first then look at the actual proof against your belief

>>7516643
>>7516468
Pic related

>people fell for the "fuwa copied mio"
>then people fell for the "there is no live"
It's so tiresome

>>7516643
so mobile users tabbing out to shitpost here then tabbing in again to watch?

I know you guys are having fun piling on Mr. "All 3Ds are pre-recorded", but remember that it's just one crazy anon derailing the thread like always.

>>7516760
cope nijicuck, you know you lost the argument

>>7516096
Happening with Gura at 16k now

>>7516864
I can't believe this only happens with Hololive streams. I wonder why youtube keeps nerfing them

>>7516902
>I can't believe this only happens with Hololive streams
Nobody said that, it is just that there is no Holostats for Nijisanji otherwise it would be easy to prove or disprove

>>7516902
We're never going to know if it's Hololive only because Playboard does not track live count as often as Holostats does.

>>7516902
Can't have virtual anime girls showing up the normiefag "talent". I can't wait until they flip Susan the bird and go to a different website. So sick of this shit.

>>7516864
Ame now at exact 8.5k
>crosses 8.5k
>back to 8.3k

>>7516096
You are not the only one noticing this anon. I have been skeptical of youtube live viewers numbers for a while. Just take for example, aqua's karaoke yesterday hardcapped at 15k when she normally gets 18k to 20k. I paid attention to her live numbers for a while and everytime it looked like it was going to break 16k, it dropped down a bit. Something like 15900 > 15700 and 15800 > 15500 kept on looping at intervals.

>>7516201
>But, free Niji3D lives and the concert both had chat as well as polls. Fuwa Minato's 3D had the chat on the screen.
Ya having a chat or some on-screen gimmick when SCs flow in are pretty easy ways to prove something is live.

Niji and Holo (pre-2021) 3Ds have always been a mix of live segments and pre-recorded segments, it's pretty standard. Like Fuwa didn't run offstage to do his Gantz skit and fight Kagami in a robot suit live lol. Ibrahim also was not playing Pachinko live for 45 mins. But their singing segments were most likely live. Hololive used to do the same where they cut to some pre-recorded skits and then transitions towards live performance segments.

>>7517109

>>7518003
Still nowhere near as accurate as Holostats. But the chat speed (blue) is an interesting feature.
Look at how many tiny points >>7517185 has compared to these. Same stream, Shiina's latest baseball stream.
Holostats just updates super often.

gura nearing 19k as her time slot closes in.
Ame aslo on 9.5k

>>7518218
I wonder what the dotted green line is for

Gura's Duolingo reached 1M VOD views,her 30th video and 29th live stream.
Who's the second one with 1M+ live streams?

>>7518994
Might be likes but I'm not sure

>>7516974
We could know if someone would just clone the HoloStats repo and replace the Hololive members with Nijisanji members, then launch NijiStats.

>>7506327
>Ibra mogging everyone this badly
kneel to the gacha king.

>>7519232
You can sit there and say that but I don't know how to and you don't know how to so who knows how to do that. Apparently the anon who posts graphs (not the Google fag) is working on some way to compile Hololive and Nijisanji stats to compare them on an equal and accurate metric but he hasn't updated us on it since.

>>7519312
>gacha
???

>>7519376
pachinko is the original gacha game

>>7519047
Marine: 20 (7 streams)
Mori: 13 (5 streams)
Okayu: 13 (3 streams)
Pekora: 11 (9 streams)

>>7518236
People are definitely listening in but tabbed out rn.
It's zatsudan time in the End, where Ame and Gura just shoot the shit on stream until we hear screaming and combat starts.
Upcoming streams of note: Astel with Rocobo and Choco for the upcoming Tourney
Miko HC MC Day 4
Mori actually going back to finish Henry Stickmin

>>7520599
is laready beyond 2hrs so most are going out and new people might be hesistant to go into a stream this late. Still excellent retention for both specially since both fanabses overlap.

>>7519047
Gura 29 (way too many to list here)
Pekora 9 (Pekomama, first Moona collab, prison outfit, Usaken festival, sports day, Minecraft, Yakuza 0, Makaimura, Clubhouse 51 w/Marine)
Marine 7 (Undertale, 1 million live, birthday live, Megaman 2 w/Korone, bath stream w/Noel, Cho Aniki w/Korone, outfit reveal)
Coco 6 (graduation, graduation announcement, 3D debut, zatsudan after announcement, outfit reveal, 3D w/Marine)
Noel 6 (solo ASMR x3, ASMR w/Marine, ASMR w/Choco, VR horror)
Calli 5 (outfit reveal, million subs endurance, EN Walfie outfits reveal, debut stream, ASMR)
Korone 5 (Banjo Kazooie, Okakoro Cuphead, English only Mario x2, SMOK collab)
Rushia 4 (ASMR x2, Gen 3 word wolf, Gen 3 Smash Bros)
Aqua 3 (Apex endurance x2, 3D live)
Okayu 3 (ASMR x3)
Ame 2 (first EN collab, debut stream)
Haachama 2 (H art contest, return stream)
Kanata 2 (Undertale, 3D debut)
Lamy 2 (3D debut, ASMR)
Miko 2 (MC sports festival, return 3D)
Ayame 1 (outfit reveal)
Botan 1 (3D debut)
Fubuki 1 (Wake up hags)
Kiara 1 (EN Uno collab)
Ina 1 (debut stream)
Mio 1 (Hololive kindergarten collab)
Nene 1 (3D debut)
Shion 1 (Train game collab w/Pekora & Okakoro)
Towa 1 (Mario Kart tournament)

>>7516096
200 were using adblock and keeps registering after getting identified as a spam, thats why en and ids vod is skewed

>>7521397
2M+ :
Coco 2(graduation, graduation announcement)
Gura 2 (debut stream, outfit reveal)
3M+ :
Coco 1(graduation)
Gura 1 (debut stream)
4M+ :
Coco 1(graduation)
Gura 1 (debut stream)
5M+ :
Coco 1(graduation)

Today's superchats

>>7521073
Maybe or maybe not. She will be streaming tomorrow at her regular time of 8PM of another indie game. If she doesn't get min 20k live then something is up.

>>7521870
Mori's added as a vtuber? Nice.
Aqua: Karaoke
Miko: Minecraft. Noticed she said 'rainbow superchat baby' and got a big wave.
Mori: Return stream
Chima: New outfit
Ina: Announced a break and new MV
Fuwa: Mentioned his raji taiso on a game stream
Kiara: LOZ and talk about the TTRPG
Kanata: 1 mil congratulations
Ninja sisters: Birthday
Lamy: More congrats for 760k
Noel: Big fat akas for reaching 1.23 mil. ?
Subaru: Congrats for clearing Ao Oni

Most live viewers

>>7522368
>indie game
nah that game is a debuff

>>7522368
Here comes Niko tomorrow, 3d platformer from the same devs as A Hat in Time. Unsure if buff/debuff as a game, so people will probably at least tune in to see what it's about?
>>7522537
Makes sense, nothing too big events-wise, and Aqua hasn't streamed since she finished her RE8 playthrough so no doubt her gachikoi were itching to supa her.

>>7522787
is not the hat in time devs but they ar epubishing it. it is a platfromer without consecuences and more of a fetch quest minigame sandbox. Is cute but not really streaming material.

>>7522692
where are hal and kuzuha

>>7522537
>Mori's added as a vtuber?
She's not, and there's a bunch of others missing plus occasional PNG or 3D streamers included so I just manually edit it except for the rare days when the vtuber category actually lines up with the top 12 chuubas

>>7523135
Kuzuha and Hal didn't stream their collab with Hikakin.

after collabing with males, how do we save her?

>>7524496
Leos even said there's no need for girls in their group lol.
https://twitter.com/Leos_Vincent/status/1422941433598644227

>>7524596
Is Leos the type to talk before he thinks?

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/e-WXpylijus
Well, people are tabbing in now for the moment Gura actually flies.
It's also now her Primetime as well.
Yet another piece of evidence to add to the pile that Gura really needs to stick to her 5pmPST/8pmPST timeslot.

>>7525062
Nope.

>>7525062
I misread. Yes he is

>>7525154
Her core audience has been screwed over the past week because her new schedule has been 5-6 AM JST, meaning she's streaming when SEA and Asians are getting ready for work or commuting to work.

>>7525154
i think gura and ame viewerbase are msotly burger but also asian regions that are just tunning in.
Eruros seems to be only for ina and other jops like falre,watame and lamy

>>7521870
No Kson? How is she gonna be the top earner for the month at this rate.

>>7506327
Daily Nijisanji August 4

JP (over 10k)
51821 Ibrahim
31966 Fuwa
27960 Shiina
26539 Kuzuha
19444 Kenmochi
19327 Hayato
16259 Ange
13435 Rion
13109 Onomachi

New JP
20033 Leos
12578 Lauren
10120 Lain
8015 Axia
5739 Oliver

EN
4643 Selen
3756 Elira
1726 Rosemi
1254 Finana
1252 Petra

>>7525391
Counterpoint Kiara and Mori receive significantly more Euro SC than Ina.

>>7524596
Truly, a moment of comedy brilliance.
Leos is gonna go places for sure, this goddamned idiot.
>>7514973
Looks like someone was a bit too eager to proclaim DOOM and GLOOM, especially when this stream started outside of Gura's prime-time slot.

>>7525624
> December update cuts 40%+...

>>7525614
Breakdown for Top 3 Niji streams
Ibrahim - Soccer thing
Fuwa - Morning exercise
Shiina - Baseball
New JP - Among Us collab
EN - Selen-Apex, Elira-COOKIECLICKER

>>7525614
Kenmochi and Kuzuha's streams were over 24 hours ago...

>>7525817
December update absolutely rekt numbers, but the first few months of the year were slower as well. YT trends downwards in the first few months of the year for EVERYONE though so it was a pretty big 1-2 punch to numbers, and things started to pick back up starting in march-april from what I remember of the graphs posted here.

Chumbuds hate Ina right?

>>7526032
They hate Gura changing timeslot and probably hate that game too.

>>7526032
Nah. Minecraft is a buff game and Elytra is an extra buff, plus DS3 is considered the worst in the series and the Sunday stream was at a weird time.

>>7525617
kiara and mory receive more SC than anyone and they do stream at more euro friendly times.

>7526032
Go over to /hlgg/ with your shitty bait.
>Deadspace 3 is a mediocre game
>4 hours outside of Gura's usual streaming time
>Weaker of the two PoVs (Ina's was smoother and showed pretty much the same action).

>>7525899
I use the same times as ikioi so my post just adds what wasn't able to get in there.

Aqua's superchat session yesterday was pretty interesting, she was really interacting back and forth, tsukkomi and roasting her superchats causing a lot of new first time superchats. This type of superchat interacting style actually reminds me of coco.

gura...?

>So...dust has settled
Gura's perfect streaming timslot is 8pm PST
Ina's perfect streaming timslot is 2pm PST
What about others?

Minecraft Gurame
>with debut buff
>without debut buff
>now
Basically nothing changed after the debut buff expired.

>>7527007
Those are pre-bug numbers

>>7526972
Ame is the same as Gura

>>7526959
Youtube only counts in increments of 10k when you reach a certain point (after 1 mil I think). She isn't earning 10k in a day, that's cumulative for the period. And yes, she is still earning subs like a madman.

>>7508153
>Only ones that would hit 1M are HoloGra
the trailers for their new projects also tend to do really well. Error trailer is also already at 1M

>>7527201
It's taking 2.5 days for 10k
Abrupt braking

>Petra 100K cooking PARTY
Predict the numbers

>>7527633
2k the most

>>7527633
It won't get above 1.5k. Happy to be proven wrong.

>>7527512
Gura hasn't been streaming regularly on her channel recently, which obviously leads to a decrease in subs.

>>7527512
she has streamed 3 times in like week and a half and had a week break before that

>>7527633
Unfortunately, apart from her first karaoke stream that got like 5k, Petra's numbers have been below average in NijiEN. Maybe 2k, but I doubt 3k.

>>7527918
>below average in NijiEN
>I guess 2k or 3k
Anon-chama, average in NijiEN is 2-3k

>>7527918
Crossing 1.2k is an achievement for her these days, absolutely zero chance she even reaches 2k let alone 3k

>>7526032
>ds3
imagine gura playing souls games.

Anyone has an idea why HoloEN don't play GTA?
GTA is a meme buff game

>>7527201
Still don't know which population of humans these subs are coming from. Every weeb and weeb-adjacent person on this planet should have, by this point in time, become aware of her existence and have watched at least one stream or clip of her and have already decided whether or not to sub to her (and this logic extends to the rest of holoEN and maybe hololive as a whole). So is it normies, is it bots, or is my logic just flawed?

>>7528216
Because Westerners know what nigger means so they can't innocently parrot it.

>>7527918
Definitely not 2k

>>7528626
I kinda want a married black guy to be a vtuber and say it. I know a few blackaboos who could

>>7529529
Gwelu?

>>7525614
Nijiniggers struggling as always.

>>7527716
Well... lets see

>>7529739
Her being so bad at cooking is certainly helping to bring more attention

>>7529739
Imagine having a 100K party that turned out like that.

>>7527983
Ya exactly, Petra gets between 1-2k normally, that's below average for NijiEN. Her getting more than 2k is quite an achievement.

>>7526972
Ame has two timeslots where she does really well
>Same as Gura
>Late night, 9-10pm PST/12-1am est
Calli streams at 8pm PST/7am PST
Kiara sticks to 8-10am PST now since she moved back to euro.
>>7528475
Gura has Global appeal. EN speaking countries, JP, CN, KR, everyone loves the cute shark. One of the benefits to being cute and funny whilst remaining non-sexual in design is that YT won't kneecap your recommends for being 'lewd'.
Mori's music means non-weebs are gonna get drawn in. From there, people will get dragged into the YT hope of clips and then it's game over for your recommends.

>>7529739
She crossed it at least.

>>7529880
It's not a surprise, this is her second celebration, she already had am unofficial one on a JP only stream and it's been almost a week since she got 100k

>>7508239
Does anyone from KNR help him? He fucked up and had to give away more PCs for Vtuber cup 2 and his stream talking about the teams for Vtuber cup 3 was scuffed.

>>7528216
Is it a buff game for HoloEN viewers tho?

>>7529978
>Mori's music means non-weebs are gonna get drawn in.
lol let's be honest, there's not that many non-weebs that are super into her music. It's actually more like there's a large audience for anime-rap/weeb-rap and Calli is huge in that genre since she's an anime girl and Trash Taste gave her exposure to the anituber audience. The black weebs demographic on youtube is no joke either.

>>7529957
1-2k is an average for Rosemi/Finana. Petra's average is 900-1500.

>>7530210
NTA, but we'll know when they play it. From what we've seen so far tho, games that require multiple eps aren't great for the EN girls and Gura's RDR2 streams were not that great numbers-wise. No corpo vtuber has streamed San Andreas or GTA4 recently, so the novelty factor might be there.

>>7522537
>Miko: Minecraft.
Minecraft is a buff for CCV but not really a buff for supacha. For some reason Miko got a lot of donations during that Shiraken collab, but I didn't watch it to know what it was.
>Kanata: 1 mil congratulations
>Lamy: More congrats for 760k
Kanata 1M was over a week ago, and 760k is not a particularly noteworthy milestone, if you could call it that. That amount of supacha is not unusual for Kanata or Lamy even on uneventful streams.
>Noel: Big fat akas for reaching 1.23 mil. ?
She made triple that amount. That figure is just for a zatsudan, which unlike minecraft, tends to be a supacha buff.

>>7530210
Not really. The actual good stuff about GTAV is the mods.

>>7530327
Okay, true, but it IS a rather large group of people.
>Astel equal in ccv to choco/roboco right now
Astel is the best player of the three, and people are tuning in.
>>7530210
Hard to say since none of them have touched the game for streams. I'd say it should be a buff at minimum but who knows to what extent.

>>7530475
For that post I opened each stream and scrolled through to read the contents of the superchats as well as Youtube comments. I wrote what I saw, majority of Kanatas was "I'm late but congrats on 1mil/Awesome calligraphy" and Lamy's was "congrats on 760k/stuff about alcohol"
Noels was the one that confused me but a lot of them were just big reds for reaching 1.23 mil subs, not money.

>>7530329
Did you really include their debut streams in their average? Pretty sure that alone bumps their numbers. Also, it's pretty interesting to see that 22 July was Petra's first karaoke - that 5k might have been people holding out hope that she is Shachi, but once they realized she isn't, all of Shachi's fans bailed out.

>>7530670
Only this retarded board thought she was Shachi.

>>7530670
NTA, but debut streams are just like 3D debuts or Holo concerts. One outlier stream won't throw off the the average too much in the long run. NijiEN2 hasn't had enough streams yet where people can't just glance and see what their regular average is like.

>>7530670
Some anon asked for July's averages so I've done what I could with niji-mado's numbers. Of course their actual averages post honeymoon are lower (can already be seen in the last days' numbers)

>>7530819
I may try to redo it to include the whole month between July 18 and August 18 later.

>>7530819
I'm that anon. You put an "M" there but calculated the data by average instead of median.
In this case:
>Petra 2738
>Rosemi 2123
>Selen 2819

>>7530329
It's cool that Selen has gotten 5k or barely below it every time she plays Apex. 5k to NijiEN is like 18-20k for HoloEN excluding Gura. At least shows that there's an audience for EN vtubers that are good at Apex.

>>7531172
Oh you're right I've used the wrong formula. Will fix it in the later edition.

>>7531173
>5k to NijiEN is like 18-20k for HoloEN excluding Gura
No, 5k is 5k. If someone else is getting more, then they are getting more. Nothing else to it.

>>7531173
>Selen gets 5k for playing Apex
>There is a market for Apex chuubas

>Kiara get 5k for playing JRPG
>This only proves that there is no market for Chuubas playing JRPGs, people are already bored of HoloEN and Cover will go brankrupt in the next week
????

>>7531837
Are you pretending to be dumb?

>>7522692
How would niji ever hope to contend without doing event streams?

I guess this is fine.

>>7526032
DS3 is generally a bad game when compared to the other two. The first one is the best, second is okay.

>>7531837
Just know that Ame gets 10k+ when playing Apex and somehow gets below 10k from playing minecraft. I don't even understand her fans, but I just hope she stops playing freaking platformers.

>>7532027
The Nijisanji fanbase is casual as fuck. They are literally normie entertainment in Japan. Normies aren't going to watch daily streams and they are only going to tune in for big events or when something special is going on. That is why Niji's numbers aren't great for daily streams but they do really well when they are doing some kind of big event.

Hololive gets big numbers even on daily streams because they get the otaku fanbase in Japan who is a lot more hardcore and more likely to consume the content on a daily basis.

>>7532254
This is repeated nearly every thread, when will people stop asking

>>7532249
>Somehow gets below 10k from playing minecraft
Not really

>>7532367
I meant the collab with Gura

>>7532254
I was being sarcastic anon. Everyone knows that they have a casual fanbase. Wished Nui and chihiro went to Hololive instead though because I want to see them grow even further due to how much they put into streaming.

>>7532367
It's all about time slot and overlapping

>>7532367
Yea, Ame gets 10k+ in her solo minecraft streams. She only gets less when in collabs like today.
She gets a range of 5-8k for for platformers.

>>7532536
That was legit one of the worst streams ever, ofcourse it doesn't have her normal numbers.

>>7532536
What >>7532712 said. She only played 2 games, and the 2nd game glitched and didn't have game audio so she was making "pew pew" noises to make up for it. And then she was like "eh we played for almost an hour" and ended the stream before it had a chance to gain an audience.

Didn't know that that there was a another numberfag holo site. It even has English. Just tracks sub growth from the beginning and has a 1M forecast page. It's interesting because it has every chuuba in there and it tracks their sub growth from debut date every day so if you are interested to learn when a specific jump in sub growth for a girl happened, you can see it there. I saw it while trying to browse l what the cosplayer for Marine looked like. She looked pretty hot. Her PC case looked really nice too.
https://trackholo.live/en/

https://youtu.be/-Lal8H1QPx8
100 most viewed hololive songs

>>7510354
>>7510502
>>7510753
Calli's has around 60 mil views total on her livestreams/non-song vids
meaning the remaining 91 million is on her song views alone
that's probably a good couple of JP put together, and they had a lot of time to release covers and shit

>>7534804
>this highlight channel gets more views than all of nijien
Jesus

>>7535234
KEK

>>7534670
Isnt that the site someone has been posting screenshots of in this thread? I thought it was a custom tool he was using

>>7535234
I kinda feel bad for the Niji now. It's like they have permanent debuff on them since debut and they can't do anything about it. They would get like 5 times higher numbers by doing the exact same thing but in Hololive instead.

Mr. Kuzuha Channel has had two straight days of gaining 6000 subscribers. If this Hikakin buff/Apex with singers buff continues he could beat Botan to 1 mil

>>7534804
草

>>7535430
Thats what happens when you center your organization on male vtubers. You get rejected and nobody likes you.

>>7535430
>I feel bad for niji
only one to beat it is Coco graduation and she's gone.
Gwelu will make more than Fuwa

>>7535606
Yes we know this already, Fuwa Minato.

>>7535605
?