/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7415334
He's fucked thats what it means

ohnononono

>>7415334
That seanig got fucked

>https://twitter.com/Lyytoaoitori/status/1422048370881974272
>it's actually real

naruhodo ne~

>>7415334
uh ohh

>>7415334
This tweet is directly specifically at Sodafunk, lmfao. Truly baffling to me how someone can do everything wrong and have no idea.

Xplain?

>>7415985
A clipper called Soda funk used fanart of an Anime for their membership emotes without asking the artist and the creator of the anime for permission

>>7415985
SodaFunk is a well-known clipper and now aspiring Vtuber who uses this person's fanart for his avatar and is profiting off of it. As is evident in the tweet (and something everyone already knew), this is not permissible in the slightest.

>>7416013
>>7416018
Lmao what a retard.
>Clipper
>Membership
What the fuck.

>>7416065
He hired a girl off of Fiverr to do his outro for him and his subs thought it was him so he got very popular for sounding like a cute girl. It exploded for some reason so he teamed up with her to make a Vtuber. But yeah he is beyond retarded for trying to profit off of copyrighted material.

get royally fucked, seanigger.
I'll enjoy every moment of you burning down

>>7415334
>What does this mean for SodaFunk?
1) He'll use he money he gained from the streams to purchase his own emotes.
2) Search the internet for abandonware art either from dead/MIA artists or defunct companies.

It means creating a new set of emotes at best. Hardly the end of the world.

>>7415334
>Profitting of copyrighted characters
I hope he gets fucked now.

>>7416093
Don’t know how he thought he’d get away with it. His clipper “friends” turned on him the instant he did his “debut”.

I'm more disappointed at the people who threw money at him.

Why SEAniggers are like this? I was ok with catfishing because it was obvious and people who donated deserved to be deceived. But using copyrighted material like that is beyond retarded.

>>7416187
you could care less

>>7416191
>Don’t know how he thought he’d get away with it.
He still is, tons of his cuck fanbase still simp for him. Even in the replies there you can see someone insist they are female lmao.

>>7415334
Uh oh, stinky
Sodafunk did something bad

>>7416180
>he
>streamed and was a girl
ok schizo

>>7416093
Wait so they really think he's a girl? holy shit.
Like, I saw the comments on YouTube but I tried to sort of ignore them. These people really are fucking retarded, aren't they? Like, even if you think about it logically, what the fuck are the chances a woman is going to be a clip fag?

>>7416261
retard, he hired a girl off fiverr to do the voice.

Fucking disgusting, imagine using a copyrighted character from an anime for your personal vtuber avatar and profiting from it. Anyone who would do such a thing should be blackballed.

>>7416282
>NOO ITS A GIRL OFF FIVERRR!!!
>stream girl was clearly SEA and not an american like the fiverr girl
Hahaha! Absolute mental illness. How do you live normally? Are you on medication?

>>7415334
Nothing will happen because no one will pursue the matter further
Unless the copyright holder themselves file a DMCA claim on the channel but I doubt it will ever come to that

Reminder Ollie got scolded by her manager for promoting clipperfag so she might not support this kind of shit again in the future.

Priceless

>>7415334
lol didn't soda claim that he had their permission to use all the art?

>>7416191
He most likely never even thought about this stuff. He found a cute character, used it because who the fuck cares about some clipnigger using random art, but then this girl from fiver made his channel blow up and now he has found himself in this sticky situation.

>>7416332
He had permission to use it with crediting, as long as he doesn't monetize.
He does not credit the artist and obviously does monetize.

This is probably going to create a bigger backlash than pretending to be female.

>>7416332
Only for the ending and avatar.

>>7416302
please eat a tire.

>>7416302
草

Wait, you're telling me a clipfag is using someone else's material without permission and is profiting off of it? What a shock! I never would have imagined he would do such a thing!!

>>7415334
Not even the tip of the iceburg, he got reported for using Holo tags on his monetized stream (and also has Holo clips all over the channel), Holo Bass got C&D'd by Cover for far less than that.

>>7416278
Well there is Aiko who is probably the only woman clipper

>>7416322
>Em resposta
sopa du macaco

>>7416309
Thank god asshole Anya save the day, or else she might become a leech

>>7416432
Most clip channels aren't retarded enough to be monetized because it's actually breaking ToS.

>>7416445
Aco aco aco sopa de macaco

Well no shit i haven't heard about this guy, probably blacklisted him at some point when everyone and their mothers started a clip channel.

desu though i think they can just be public about this shit, apologize cutely as an anime girl then wipe everything off like it never happened
and there you go, no problems remain because retards would just defend that cute voice to the end of the world

>>7416335
This one who streams isn't that girl from fiver.
Jsut to clear things up.

>>7416322
lmao cope

>>7416322
>Resposta a
UMA DELICIA

>>7415334
he's fucked

Well time for me to report channel

>>7415334
i hope he manages to save this and keep doing content until all the other shitclippers seethe to death and decides to drag him down with them.

the girl he hired should become vtuber herself lmao

>>7416332
The character is Kyoani's property, artist doesn't have any right shit for commercial permit, he only has the right to sell art in comicket or some small con

>>7416608
Isn't Kyoani still recovering from that arson a few years back? I doubt they have the energy to pursue a small-time clip channel

>>7416332
Artist assumed he asked permission for twitter avatar and didnt knew this retard will build entire online presentance around it.

>>7416688
They don't need to. Their legal team can simply send a cease and desist letter but I doubt they would care enough.

>>7416688
They don't need to sue him ,they can just strike his channel.

>>7416688
They don't need to pursue shit, a quick C&D and it's over. If Soda keeps going after that he has a death wish.

>>7415334
Ahahaha, I knew Sodafunk was lying about getting permission. Get fucked, art thief!

>>7416093
The fiverr girl was American. Whoever he teamed up with is definitely not American.

>>7416198
What did you expect from EOPs

>>7416093
>he is beyond retarded for trying to profit off of copyrighted material.
The amount of people who get away with it is pretty big in streaming, and im sure its all out of ignorance. Ame herself didnt have permission to sing that Dr Seuss song and the guy who made the song didnt have permission to make it using Dr. Seuss copyrights. One of the most famous twitter accounts @dril uses an image of jack nicholson as logo and profits off it, something he most certainly has no permission to do so.

>>7416322
E aí anão

>>7416297
Except that's not Kuina, just someone who looks like her. There are some significant differences.

>>7416926
>the guy who made the song didnt have permission to make it using Dr. Seuss copyrights.
He also didn't have permission to use Ame's voice, which is why Cover C&D'd him in the end. Needless to say the same could easily happen here, monetizing a channel loaded with clips from Hololive was a pretty stupid idea.

>>7416926
It's all within a gray zone that's up to the audience's discretion and the degree of transparency. Frankly, even if it wasn't a KyoAni character and Soda wasn't in legal trouble, using an artist's work to base your entire (equally deceptive) persona around despite them not being cool with monetization of their works is in and of itself taboo, especially in a community like this. It's not comparable in practice to Dril shitposting with a picture of Jack Nicholson despite very technically existing in a similar gray area.

>>7416986
>looks like

That sounds enough for a cease and desist letter or lawsuit asking for money

>>7415985

>>7415334
Don't care if some simps get conned out of their money

>>7417088
Hell no.

>>7417115
It's over then

>>7417088
Not really, especially since she clarified it's not the same character which is all the legal disclaimer she needs, especially since she uses her own model and thus is inherently transformative. Soda couldn't use this defense since he doesn't even have his own model, he rips off fanart depicting a copyrighted character wholesale.
Copyright laws are wonky but whereas Senzawa is at best in a gray area, Soda is completely in the black with no negotiation room whatsoever. The idea that they're comparable is really redundant.

ITT people who will never get anywhere near this motherfucker did while pissing and moaning about this from their mother's basement

>>7416926
Every VTuber uses some copyrighted material (Example: Unarchived karaoke) without permission at some point but that's very different from trying to make a whole channel based on a character and clips that you don't have a license to use or profit from

Oh no, Ollie gonna get fucked by managers for shilling this clipfag.

>>7417211
In this post: anon who will never get anywhere near what I personally did, and is defending a SEAmonkey on the internet for free.

>>7416460
DYRBI

>>7417271
Counterexamples? And yes, it's breaking ToS.

>>7417265
Sorry you didn't do this first and roll in the money from it

>>7416309
This was about Apex, anon. ID manager doesn't give a shit about clipper bullshit. If they did, Ollie would have deleted her tweets.

>>7417361
Hasn't she quit Apex for this month?

>>7417211
ITT Cancelfags and dramafags

>>7418202
Only stupid supports catfishing

>>7415926
>those replies still insisting he's a woman
It's sad to see someone in denial like that

>>7415334
Im just waiting for this nigger to get fucked by kyoani

>>7415334
I don't care if anyone gave him money.
It's either people didn't do their research about him before simping, or they did and they still gave him money despite that. I find it hard to care in either case.

>>7417115
>i don't like people stealing art
I swear to god I hate artfags so goddamn much, you don't see construction workers cry when someone graffiti's a fucking stop sign they put into the ground because they aren't huge fucking faggots

imagine any other profession, like a chef saying not to take pictures of their fucking salad because they made it, holy shit I wish you talentless hacks would just fuck off

>>7418474
>t.retard

>>7418474
this is bait

>>7417211
I just hate people using scummy tactic to make money. Yeah, it's not like i have any power to change anything. I'm a powerless little man. But at least allow me to voice my dissatisfaction can i? Just like people who are dissatisfied with say CCP, do they have any power against a government body? Should they just shut up because they are powerless to change anything?

>>7418506
No, you make money off commissions, that is your value.

You are not making some great work of art, digital art is inherently NOT owned by you once you make it public.

It is impossible to litigate the digital rights of artwork, even with the advent of etherium block chain based content ID's, because the VALUE of a digital piece has no real world relevance.

If someone steals a physical piece of artwork from you, and misrepresents it as their own, then I would side with you, but unfortunately for you, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU, AND ARTISTS LIKE YOU, ARE TERRIBLE AT YOUR OWN CRAFT

Tired of you mental children infesting the internet with you imaginary concepts of digital ownership.
There's a reason why pepe the frogs creator cannot do anything about his character,

>>7418571
No it's not bait, I hate you fucking annoying socially inept zoomers who exist in a bubble away from reality, digital art is not something you can protect from dissemination

>>7418602
>digital art is inherently NOT owned by you once you make it public.
so is food, dumb ass

>>7418581
You sound like a fucking faggot who should take a break and do something more productive with your life

>>7418642
YES, YOU ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT, THIS IS WHY PEOPLE CAN LEGALLY DINE AND DASH YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

You mental midgets are cancer, take some time out of your bubble, stop going on fucking twitter and stop hanging around mentally ill artists

>>7418602
>digital art is inherently NOT owned by you once you make it public.
Not how the courts see it.

>>7418683
bro you got too much dip on your chip

>>7418683
Lol u mad bro?

>>7418683
>No, you make money off cooking, that is your value.
>You are not making some great work of art, cooked food is inherently NOT owned by you once you serve it to the customer.
idk man

>>7418602
NFTs fixes this

>>7418747
>>7418748
I'm not the one constantly reeeing about anyone paying attention to you, you fags get upset about 13 year olds on twitter posting your fan art as if you ever even had the copyright.

You are on 4chan for fucks sake, EVERY THING HERE IS DERIVATIVE OF SOMEWHERE ELSE

You have reaction images YOU don't have the "license" to in your reaction pic folder, without asking for permission, because DIGITAL ART RIGHTS ARE NOT ACTIONABLE

>>7418700
The courts only side with the copyright holder WHEN the plaintiff creates physical merchandise, anything digital is completely legal.
This is how the law works, mental midget-kun

>>7415334
Wait, is he not the artist that draws that fanart. I follow that artist on Twitter and I always assumed they were the same person.

>>7418882
Why did you assume that

>>7418852
No it's not you fucking retard.
Companies that misuse GPL'd software get sued all the time and lose every time.
You don't suddenly lose your copyright just because you published it free of charge.

>>7418823
They do not, NFT's provide a digital footprint for the object, but no government as of right now recognizes digital property claims if it not being breached in the physical world with merchandising.

>>7418791
You can be arrested for a domestic disturbance for dine and dash, but there is no legal law stating you stole from the restaurant, there is no contract. However they can take you to small claims court and the verbal agreement would be used against you.

The argument in this thread is retard OP's pic calling it ILLEGAL, it is not illegal in most countries.
Japan has unique copyright laws requiring permission, but they are not recognized by other countries and are not legally actionable.

>>7418903
Yes you actually do, that's why there are ToS's, companies suing does not mean they have a claim over their own product, it means they are filling to fight for a claim/damage against their property, which has a history of not working out in their favor.

There is nothing illegal about using someone elses digital artwork for your own digital financial gain. Literally zero.

>>7418852
You sure are mad over people not liking that sometimes other people take someone's work, remove any crediting information, and repost it as their own.

>>7416515
>>7416985
>>7416466
I hate spics

>>7418968
You have no clue about what you're talking of. There's no "terms of service" for copyright law, there are licenses, and even if something is released with no license attached the law still protects their rights as an author.

Not vtuber related. Get this shit off of my board.

>>7418997
that's portuguese

>>7418852
Have you tried applying your logic to other things only released digitally? Music, videos, etc? Just because it's only been released digitally does not mean they forfeit the copyright and people can use them publicly without permission, profit or no. I don't understand why you would think art is an exception to this.

>>7418968
>Yes you actually do
I guess I have to ask, what country are you from? In most places with enforced copyright, you have to explicitly forfeit the copyright. Publishing it publicly and digitally only does not do so. Else stuff created recently would not have to be declared public domain to be 100% free to use in all cases, no matter how you use. Almost every other case has some form of condition attached.

>>7418919
>there is no legal law stating you stole from the restaurant
Is there really no law against taking someone else's property without reimbursement?

>>7418997
>he doesn't know the meme
fuck off newfag

>>7416093
Based and ancap pilled.

>>7416322

>>7416926
We need to hold dril accountable

>>7416013
But there was a vtuber who used Kuina from Hinako's Note. I wonder what became of her?

Thank for reminding me to report SodaFunk.

>>7416278
anon
there are people that still think the imitation shark is female
it's that easy to make money off weak men

>>7419484
No idea. Last I heard about her was that she auditioned for Hololive or something. I wonder how she's doing now.

>>7416460
dloow had memberships even before 2021

>>7416478
He used to clip Pikamee and Hana Macchia, with good editing and all. But the nanosecond he discovered that Gura+Lewd Thumbnail paid exponentially more, he dumped them.

Shark and Zentreya are trannies and have a mental illness, so their desire to appear as women is somewhat understandable.
But this shit is outright evil.

>>7419678
Membashippu doko?

>>7419781

>>7419781
Wasn't this fag the one who got banned from Gura's channel?

>>7419882
He supports Gurame so it's ok

>>7419882
There was so much back and forth about him being impersonated or whatever that I stopped caring. Clippers are leeches to begin with

>>7419834
Oh, 8 months ago. And lol, some people were already calling him out on it. I wonder if that's the reason he closed membership.

>>7419882
While looking up who this guy is, yes that's the guy. But funnily enough, they wrongly banned him because someone made a copycat account of him and sent nasty stuff through SC.

>>7418474
based

>>7419781
>>7419834
>>7415334
How exactly are these fuckers getting monetization in the first place? Youtube has denied me twice now for "reused content" when I'm doing nothing different than them.
Not only that, but they're verified too. What does it take?

>>7420022
>While looking up who this guy is, yes that's the guy. But funnily enough, they wrongly banned him because someone made a copycat account of him and sent nasty stuff through SC.
Good

>>7418997
>Brazilian
>Spics

>>7420220
You're a spic, Joao

>>7420079
Guess you gotta pretend that you do these things without the intention to make money out of it at first until you grow a stable enough community. And then fuck morals and get money.

>>7420079
kys

>>7420220
same thing, Carlos.

>>7418474
I agree but at this situation he actualy stole art to the point his rabbid fans thought he drew them himself or what artist drew commision for him.

>>7418474
Yup. Writers and musicians are the same way.

>>7418474
THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

>>7418474
>food analogy
and it’s not even accurate. using your example, this situation is more akin to a chef making a dish intended to be sold, but someone steals the dish, runs out of the restaurant, and proceeds to sell it to someone else.
>you can’t steal digital artwork
god you’re one of those insufferably pedantic pricks who thinks the inherent act of video game piracy (disregarding follow up actions) isn’t harmful, huh. why’d i even bother.

>>7416688
They're back stronger than ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEb4xT8lnYU

>>7416297
All sodafunk has to do is make an avatar like this and there's no issue. Senzawa started out with an existing character as her image before she had that design made which was clearly influenced by said character.

>>7421295
If the seanig didn't bother to pay for a character before he won't do it now, and besides that he already has a ton of bad rep from this, no way he will recover

>>7421481
If sodafunk actually wants to make this a thing he'll have a new similar but not the same avatar made and nothing will happen.

New rrat

Apparently some from the ex-historian discord already has dirt on Soda and the Fiverr girl

could just be bullshit though

Hypocrisy

>>7421835
What video was this

>>7421835
I'm so tired of this timeloop

>>7421835
You forgot the link.

I just feel bad for the artist. Using his art as an icon is fine but monetizing his fanart while lying about permissions is cringe and now his mentions are full of underaged EOPs. People acting callously like this is what leads them to delete their art

>>7419333
update: dril has told us to "suck his fat cock and balls". more on this later

>>7418474
Honestly, just kill yourself anon. It'll be easier for you.

>>7422370
t.artcuck

>>7422308
Yeah, it's not even like the artist is saying they want money too, it's just a matter of basic respect here. Small artists often can't do shit when a bigger person on SNS do them dirty since the fanbase of said person will defend them regardless. There is a slight hope here given Sodafunk fanbase is pretty recent and maybe not yet too attached and blinded.

>>7422398
You are watching and paying for media made by artists. This entire board depends on the work of artists.

>>7417088
kuina is plagiarized from konata izumi anyway

>>7422404
They are blindly defending him (calling him her) saying Sodafunk is a nice guy who has open communications with Lyy, when someone already DMed Lyy and it was shown that Sodafunk never asked for permission to use those images. The artist is fed up and doesn't want to deal with it
Also, the fact that he opened memberships on a channel profiting off of clips is shady, and I hope he gets striked.

>>7422427
Not all artists are artcucks. You just happen to be the latter.

>>7422517
Oh shit a cripplefight

You know what this whole bullshit reminds me of the plot of songs made by everyone's favorite manlet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-gbAi5UIg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPSrw6ZYUA4
According to the script next part would be fiverr girl ditching dumb seanig and starting her vtuber career on her own

>>7422506
I hope his information got doxxed and perhaps will have the same fate as holo historian

>>7422517
If you don't already know, all the mamas of your favorite chuubas have a 'do not repost/use without permission' line on their profiles.

>>7421867

People were using Sodafunks outro.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=97dqqFCHcuE

>>7422747
wow that sounds worse than tekashi 6ix9ine

>>7422850
Channel name?

Literally who. Why should anyone give a shit

>>7423542
Cancel culture is good when it happens to clipfags
unironically

>>7423542

>>7423542

>You know what this whole bullshit reminds me of the plot of songs made by everyone's favorite manlet:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-gbAi5UIg0 [Embed]
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPSrw6ZYUA4 [Embed]
> According to the script next part would be fiverr girl ditching dumb seanig and starting her vtuber career on her own

>>7420975
Maybe he had the right idea if that the type of shit they make

>>7422747
>ditching and starting her vtuber career on her own
So what Mori did but without the whole moving to Japan because she want to fuck him

>>7422850
link the channel you utter retard