/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73939294
This is also a narrative btw

>>73939294
>been thru enough shit
doesnt make his vague posts leading to misunderstanding then whining about the dramatubers farming those vague posts makes him right. he started that shit makes him equally responsible

>>73939363
doesnt hex real voice already came out when he talked in filipino to millie

>>73939294
that just shows that kuro didnt change shit after leaving

no clue what this Twitter bullshit is and all the replies so far are in broken English so I'll assume this a numberfag thing

Shouldn't Mika have already fucked the menhera out of him?

>>73939294
What shit that faggot crybaby went thru? Cold latte in Starbucks? Wrong size of ordered butt-plug?

Mysta is fat phony he should've paid his fucking taxes like everyone else does.

Vshojo is working with the clique.

>been throught shit
avoiding taxes is something everyone does.

>>73939294
>people change narratives so quickly when they're spiteful
They sure do.

unironically, literally, and wholeheartedly who?

>>73939363
Kek

>>73939960
These man children need to get a real job and lose their online careers

>>73939705
Menhera x Menhera does not equal normal.

>>73939294
Do sisters really think theyre off the hook with this one?

>>73939294
Didn't a few organs shit on him on stream for not paying taxes? Even caused the nijisisters to start hating on kuro. Funny how they're all switching sides now

>>73939294
SLAY HEXY WEXY SLAAAAYYYY

>>73939294
What's the narrative? What did I miss?

>>73939960
Who this?

>>73939363
Flopsoleil btw

>>73939363
Love how half the faggots that conscived this horrible idea have escaped blame

>>73939294
>>73939960
Who are these people and what did Niji do now?

>>73939981
The killing gold fish guy

>>73940632
I'm not gonna fault him on the taxes because we ADHD people are notoriously bad with finances, but he is otherwise clearly a hypocritical faggot who loves mining his old company for drama but flips his lid and sings a different tune when you point that out.

>>73940881
that kuro was shitting on nijisanji with his tweet about people hearing his voice on ar live

>>73939960
kurp's alt

>>73939960
I honestly don't even know what he's trying to say. He writes like a fucking idiot.

>>73939960
It does summarize certain parts of the VTuber "fanbase" fairly well.

>>73940881
>Kuro vagueposts about hearing his voice on the AR live
>dramatubers start reporting about niji not removing Mystas voice
>Kuro: "wtf I didn't say that, stop twisting my words for clout"
>twitter drama happens

>>73939960
I really don't understand what this person has written here but it sounds transphobic

>>73939294
I genuinely have no idea who the hell this is supposed to be.

>>73939294
I'm sympathetic to him, I really I am. But the way he handled that shit wasn't cool and it started up drama all on its own. He knows these people and how they react, and him failing to defuse the situation only caused more harm than whatever levity he was trying to cause with the humor.
Yes, Rima fucked up by not handling shit more privately and not doing more research into his humor, but painting a target on her back for both the niji antis and his own psychotic fans wasn't a sane thing to do.
...And yet he's still taking the victim role in all of this and not doing a thing to de-escalate despite the other person backing down immediately and retracting their statement. In these situations if you seriously don't want drama you should be walking it back DOWN, not igniting it.

Your reps, retards
>>73869958
>>73868314

>>73939294
>sad rose emoji
#cut4hex slayyyyyyyy

>>73940953
If you missed the other day's drama dump, Mysta/Pomu's voice was left in the Nijisanji AR Live during certain songs. Kuro made a vague tweet about how he "must've been sleepwalking" since he didn't remember being at a concert that people heard him at. Rima, a relatively new newstuber (hard to call her dramatuber since she's focusing more on history/"rise of X" right now), made a tweet asking/implying that his voice was used without permission, and Kuro got uppity and told her to fuck off. She immediately apologized and retracted her statement, deleting the original tweet as well, and Kuro doubled down and called people who "twist his words" scum, which to both his remaining fujo fans and the sisters is a gigantic signal to harass the fuck out of Rima, who's been getting threats and harassment constantly since the event.
Now instead of trying to de-escalate he's tripling down and will likely start another hate wave against her.

>>73942428
>harassing dramatubers
Sounds based to me.

>>73942378
Dont forget the Lucifer pfp

>>73939960
He's right

>>73942478
Not now Hex

>>73939294
So what he's saying is that Kuro is undoubtedly a part of the clique even after leaving Niji. Naruhodo.

>>73942524
He is right because he is describing himself.

>>73942478
yeah, but she's more of a "this is why Marine got popular and why people love her" video maker and not a "Zaion's a pedophile and this is why you should hate her" video maker.

>>73942428
lol what a faggot, sounds like he needs to stop being a little bitch. Thanks

>>73942428
How Nijisanji can pull this off breaking their contract but selen is pushed to suicide for doing exactly what they did? What am I missing here.

>>73940881
>Kuro/Mysta jokes about his voice being on the concert "I think I was sleep walking or something cause apparently people heard my voice at a concert"
>Rima took it as "he's shitting on Niji" because she thought it was part of them being incompetent and Kuro being oblvious I guess, so she quote tweeted it (NAHH they did not complely remove Mysta's voice from the concert!?!? :skull emoji:) and added this https://twitter.com/RimaEvenstar/status/1779557616739328439
>Obviously people that like to shit on Niji on Twitter and eventually people came into also their defense.
>One added what might have actually happen: "They already had them recorded and okay’d. People would be mad if they removed them. I loved it. [...] Kuro is not suggesting that was a mistake (lol), he’s just being a tease like always when it comes to his past." Which is likely, the concert was recorded a year ago, and they had contracts with using their stuff as long as they had already given the ok, and possibly left them as bit of fanservice for fanbase.
>Some faggot came in there and basically said nuh uh
>And finally Kuro jumped again to say this: Coming from mr kuro himself how is this copium sir? Idk what point this original poster is trying to make but it is so cringe to see me and others taken out of context to spin their own narrative to hate or other entities or people.
>Then this on alt >>73939960
>And basically most dramafags came to still shit on it, because again as they do.
It's a huge nothingburger that snowballed mainly because of how Kuro handled being tired of starved dramafags and people that dedicate themselves to it, which to me, is actually based, I hate how the community is just in a constant drama alert for the tinniest shit, but the way he handled it came as a bit of a faggot

>>73942587
Vtuber "journalists" don't deserve human rights

>>73942428
You can take the male out of niji but you can’t take niji out of the male

I like hex and millie's "chemistry"

>>73942627
>I hate how the community is just in a constant drama alert for the tinniest shit
You have to remember that Kuro isn't innocent himself either. He and Matara loved to constantly talk about how much BETTER they're doing, no shit people are going to use that to shit on Niji. And they're friends with dramafags like Kyo and even propped him up after he lied about "being in a nightmare" at NijiEN. He may be half right, but he's still fueling the drama against his old coworkers/friends.

>>73942621
Because she didn't get all of the perms from the people she wanted to include and knew they wouldn't give them to her, that's why. Nijisanji already had their voice recordings and Kuro clearly wasn't upset about being in the concert.

>>73942428
So dramafag gets what it deserves, based. I still dont understand who watches these clowns. Niji is dogshit but dramafags are the worst scum in vt community. Almost all raids on holo girls vids were organized by them

>>73942428
Mysta is a ugly fat fuck. He better not be messing with Rima she's a sweetheart. Fuck this fat ass. And he wanna talk about scum bags the guy wears sunglasses indoors. All he is nothing but piece of shit snowflake milking his issues with niji for what is worth and dumb retarded fujos absolving him from facing consequences for committing a federal tax crime. Fucking stupid bitches dumb whores pieces of shit. Hope the lawyer guy destroy this fat ass.

>>73942646
Acting like that faggot Kuro is much better kek

>>73942621
Nijisanji is their company who organized this, just as they own the rights to their characters, they own basically anything they did under that character, hence they can just go talking about it legally or get royalties for example. If you are dealing with something like this, you are likely forced to sign a contract that basically allows them to use that stuff, hence why people had been using both their likeness and voices for songs.
Selen was just a talent, she works under the company supervision and while their reason was petty they were "on their right", obviously it isn't fair, and it was severely unprofessional and stupidly retarded, but Selen had no autorization from the company or "those people" to being included, as they claimed.

Basically, company can go hurr durr but talents get the stick the company wants them to pick

>>73942428
Afaik, what irked him, was that her post kind of implied a lot more drama, whereas he wrote it in a rather tongue and cheek, happy accident way.

Can understand his anger. PR wise it's not great, but on the other hand, those that will hate him, already do, those that love him will keep doing so.

I also think the dramatuber sphere is also blowing this up a lot more, because if not, it would somewhat de-legitimize them. And I bet that it's a great attack vector for any NDF against the dramatuber side.

All in all it's just some dumb thing, because Niji is fairly quiet, right now, so there is nothing significant to report.

>>73942742
>Because she didn't get all of the perms
Arent you sisters tired of rewriting history

>>73942621
SELEN DIDNT GET PERMS
NIJI DID
SIMPLE. AS.

>>73939960
He writes this after she apologizes. He's just like Astel.

>>73942985
Perms from who?She already got permission to cover the song by lilypichu herself

>>73942614
I do not trust a single person who speaks English to be able to give a sufficient explanation on why any given Japanese vtuber rose to fame, even if she had a certificate of her passing the JLPT all the way to N1.

>>73942733
Shitting on Nijisanji doesn't mean shitting on their audiences that still are there, again in no point of him saying that people heard his voice sounds something like him being like "oh fuck them for still using my voice" it's just comes as a jab to that side of the community, hell, he didn't even said he heard it himself and he was told about it. Just as I said, it's a nothingburger over a jab to be like "haha I was in that concert" nothing else.

>>73943055
ex liver perms, which selen did NOT get

>>73942957
It's in the black stream, she didn't get final confirmation on the ex-livers and didn't wait to upload it

The rules may be stupid and arbitrary but it's Nijisanji's rules

>>73942428
Thanks for the infodump. Looks like Kuro needs to grow up.

>>73943099
Nijisanji literally owns the IPs of graduated livers

>>73943055
Probably Nina and mysta appearance in the video was what held it back. They didn't had a problem with the song. Just those two being featured there was enough to trigger niji to remove it

>>73939960
sigh
He keeps going after she already apologized. Just like Aster.

>>73943163
Selen never asked her ex coworkers
Niji did. Selen broke the rules and rightfully got cut off.

>>73943139
huh? why would she need permissions from someone no longer a part of the company? Niji owns the rights not the people playing the character

Needing perms from everyone appearing in your MV even as a cameo is a good thing, imagine Enna or Elira or whatever putting images of Selen in one of their covers without her permission to milk pity points from someone who they don't actually get along with

>>73943139
Maybe her manager should have done their job and gotten the perms instead of ghosting her for 37 hours

>>73942428
don't want start drama...
let talking it in x and stream...
this retard never learn...

>>73943215
Back to your doxxsite subhuman

>>73943215
Riku owns the ip of the models he does not need permission from anyone to do anything with these models.

>>73943061
He probably could've made the situation so much easier for himself if he just made a vague but more positive comment like
>It took ages for this to come out, but I'm glad they were finally able to do this!
or
>I might not be there on stage at this moment, but I'm happy to be there in spirit ;)
to at least insinuate that he did allow the company to use his recording, or that he shows no malice. I just think he handled the situation horribly, but then again this is Mysta we're talking about.

>>73943099
What "ex-liver" perms? Anycolor owns the rights to the characters' IP, not the livers. There is no way that Anycolor would contact Mysta or Nina over that.

>>73943225
Yeah, she's not Nijisanji, she doesn't own the characters, and she doesn't have the rights to put them in her video. Nijisanji owning their characters means selen also had to follow proper protocol to use those characters, including getting the ok from the people who played them

>>73943215
What part of "Nijisanji owns the rights to the IP" do you not understand you illiterate faggot?

>>73943254
37 hours is not a long time, especially over the holiday. She could simply wait longer. I don't get why it's that hard. It makes sense though if you assume this is true and she knew she wouldn't get the OK to include everyone due to internal issues (it also makes whichever liver denied her look like a huge fucking bitch)

Why didn't Selen just ask for permissions?
Is she stupid?

>>73943351
Sis you are meant to lick the boot,not deepthroat it

>>73943351
Are you only pretending to be a retarded nigger? I can't actually tell anymore.

>>73943402
It's not about Nijisanji being afraid of getting fucked through copyright, it's about them wanting the livers to at least ask each other before shoving them in their personal music videos

>>73943254
>37 hours
That sounds like a selen problem. She should've done all of the releasing plans months in advance. That way there wouldn't be issues when the cover was released. Instead all she got was permission from lilychu and that's it. In Japan every thing needs to be scheduled ahead of time months prior even. working an entire year on some music video and not getting the appropriate permission to feature Nina and the faggot mysta was on selen. She is lucky to only had waited about 2 days for them to respond normally Japan take longer to respond to inquiries because they're retarded and still use 80s technology.

>>73943473
>not doing your job for 37 hours is okay
Faggot

>>73943024
Retard

>>73943402
Because everyone else asks before they can put stuff in. Selen didn't.

>>73943516
>>73943529
>ad hominem
I accept your concession.

>>73943536
>thinking that nijisanji cares about the talent's integrity
Kek

>>73943266
anyone who constantly complains of being tired of drama, being above it, leaving that in the past, etc, are always instigators. always.

>>73943622
>>73943623
>>73943569

>>73943571
Yes, Nijifes was happening on Christmas, no shit their managers would be taking a day off
it's not a 24/7 job

>>73943536
So they would rather kick their biggest female streamer out, the one who gives her all for projects to benefit nijien as a whole, all in order to not upset two quitters that had no problem shit talking their former company.
Make it make sense sis

>>73943729
NTA but a work day is 24 hours not 37 hours

literally who

>>73943728
Do you have any actual arguments or do you just call your debate opponents "sister" and post shitty unrelated screencaps? What are they even teaching you in school?

>>73943728
Is there an archive of that with the livechat?

>>73943728
Try new material.

>>73943623
Dont use Mint for your shitposting you faggot

>>73943800
>take a day off
>get over your 13 hour hangover before going back to work and asking Selen why the fuck she couldn't wait a day

>nijis defending their own after they leave and on their alts
holy yikes the niji genes takes over and never leaves

>>73939294
He sounds affected

>>73943745
Nobody kicked her out she left because she was being like a scorned child who didn't get the toy she wanted.

>>73943728
lol these are the trannies defending niji
>Verification not required.

>>73943728
>no argument
all the organs constantly say on stream how they have to ask for permissions for every little thing
reimu even asked her managers if they could have pomu and nina still in the ar live
what did selen do? upload the video without permissions.

>>73943536
Same company that cant even do NDAs correctly

>>73942627
is there ever a somethingburger for you sisters

>>73943935
Meanwhile Luca uses Towa's copyrighted BGM without even getting suspended

>>73943473
>but the holiday!!
japanese company would not give a shit about christmas

>>73943966
Zaion being a pedofile

>>73943473
>holiday
>Japan
>She could simply wait longer. I don't get why it's that hard.
Because the deadline was Christmas you retard.
>she knew she wouldn't get the OK to include everyone due to internal issues
But I guess this self-sabotage resulting in self-harm and hospitalization was also part of her methodical plan.
But I do love how Selen's Discord leaks are conveniently true for NDF now that it supports their arguments when they have been swearing up and down they are fake this whole time.

>>73939294
>ME ME ME

>>73943821
Maybe dont act like a sister if you dont wanna be called one

>>73943821
Sister is what they use when they can refute anybody due to being on the losing side of an argument. These people can't be reason with a demonstrated by that retard's inability to respond with anything else other than that. I don't even tune into fucking Nijisanji, was shitting on selen before she tried to kill herself and I get called a sister for making a logical argument.

>tldr: dramafag's getting harassed
Am i right? Then it's nothingburger and based

>>73943728
SISTERS,OUR RESPONSE???????

>>73939294
Wait, is this the dildo guy or did I fail at searching the archives?

>>73943999
Well Luca is a manager himself so he gets a free pass from the higher ups. Plus one of the golden boys of EN.

>sisters samefagging and using mint now

>>73943911
The pfp. The rose. The tweet. Everything about this screams edgelord. It's magnificent.

>>73944021
If the deadline was on Christmas then it was her duty to ensure that niji would be fine with mysta and Nina being in it. Something she could've done months ago but didn't. I cannot believe you're defending your oshi this hard for being an impatient retard who left all the company related perm stuff to last minute.

>>73944099
Okay so you're just another tranny faggot then aren't you

I love how sisters keep derailing threads still trying to disprove selen almost half a year later

>>73944321
I'm sorry I won't engage with someone with an iq level lower than mine perhaps you might want to stop watching vtubers and buy some books instead.

>>73944363
disprove what?
that selen had perms for the inclusion of graduated talents?
did nina or pomu ever address this? why didn't they give her permission to talk about it? did she ever ask?

>>73944224
Read those screenshots you posted again, because they clearly suggest that they rugpulled her with a rule they pulled out of their ass to specifically fuck her over.

>>73944363
>NOOOOOOOO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO CURRENT ANF FORMER NIJIS BEING RETARD PLEASE TALK ABOT DOOKI AND SELENE
sisters in a nutshell

>>73939294
WTF are nijifags dramamongering over now?

>>73944479
>YoU CoUld AlWaYs FuCkInG AsK!!!!
holy kek

>>73944430
Pot,meet kettle

>>73944479
No-one gives a fuck about your pearlclutching gook perm autism, aside from it being used as a pretense to publicly assassinate their most valuable talent in the street. You lost and you doing NASCAR replays in your head won't change that no matter what.

>>73944479

>>73942428
Talent freedom, baby

>>73944647
"no one cares" isn't an argument, she worked in a JP company and had to play by their rules
The ones who couldn't handle that left

>>73944009
Now that one's hilarious considering how many of them are even more obsessed with shotas than Zaion. By like an absurd amount to the point of writing about it to actual real life people.

>>73944647
>fails to ensure perms involving pomu Nina mysta in her mv despite working on this song for an entire year.
>NOOOO IS NIJISANJI FAULT THAT MY OSHI IS RETARDED AND DIDN'T FOLLOWED THE PROPER GUIDELINES
Sick and tired of all you faggots making up excuses for obvious retards.

>>73939653
sure it's been gachatards flaming him but I always had the impression he always went out of his way to start shit with them

>>73944777
>the ones that couldnt handle that left
Then why didnt that fag Luca get fired

>>73944700
>>73944647
>>73944620
No argument.
Reimu asked and got perms to include graduated talents for the AR live
I assume Wose and Petra did as well for Selen but she said FUCK OFF and ghosted them

>>73944777
yeah, including NijiEN's entire audience kek.

>>73944777
Ywnbj.

>>73944838
See>>73944870

>>73944009
Just can't leave her alone huh?

>>73944838
>Sick and tired of all you faggots making up excuses for obvious retards.

But enough about NDF defending Nijisanji, the company that can't even sign NDA's. >>73943950

>>73944936
exceptions to the rule doesn't invalidate the rule

>>73944971
Nice attempt at deflection

>>73939960
I hope Rima learned to never apologize, these faggots will never be satisfied.

>>73944838
>shitty rules do nothing but cause problems and fuck over employees
>employee actually gets work done
>the people who made the bullshit rule gets butthurt and destroy the entire company for a rule that only existed to feed their own ego.

...So was it worth it to follow that one rule? Was losing the entire western audience and several of your top talents worth it for rules for the sake of rules' sake?

>>73944838
>storyboard was sent for approval months in advance
>final product was sent for approval 2 days before the deadline
>management somehow didn't realize Pomu, Nina and Mysta were in the MV until immediately after the video premiered
dyrbi

>>73944936
The fuck this has to do with luca. Stop deflecting this isn't about this flip faggot this is about selen being fucking retarded then surprised when met with consequences of her retarded actions. How do you work on a music cover for an entire year and not make sure the talents feature in them are accounted for.

>>73944880
>the Clique got perms so why didn't Selen?
>No argument
>I assume

>>73944990
So luca is allowed to break NDA multiple times and use hololive's BGM just because???I guess cocksucking retards can do no wrong

>>73945064
>>73945048

>>73945064
Actually this thread was about Hex Haywire and Kuro being morons who can't keep their feet out of their mouths but then you Sisters had to derail it by obsessing over what the evil Purple Herring did months ago yet again.

>>73945096
>Selen never got perms
>Niji said she never got perms
>notSelen has never addressed getting perms
>current livers have addressed getting ex-liver perms and got permission from said ex-livers
?????

>>73945112
>Hololive bgm lmao
You mean free copyright music that does not belong hololive on the first place? This has to be the most dumbest stupid shit I've read on this thread by far. Did you also threw a fit when Michael Jordan stole Sirius from Ricky the dragon steamboat and used it for his Chicago bulls entrances? Eh who am I asking this question to you don't watch sports or old enough to know who the fuck Michael Jordan was other than he was a basketball player.

>>73945254
>Niji lied about Selen not getting song perms
>they change their story with obviously cropped screenshots
>we should trust what these people say
????

>>73945343
Im talking about Towa's BGM thats copyrighted

>>73945253
Ironic you using that pic considering hex lives rent free in your mind. Or does that logic doesn't apply to you due to hive mind issues.

>>73945387
Proof next thread?
Surely undeniable proof to validate your claims

>>73945466
So true!!!#cut4hex

>>73945466
You can't blame me for that, picrel is just too iconic

>>73945445
I don't watch him but if he used towa bgm then fuck him I was under the assumption we were speaking about the copyrighted bgm from dova.

>>73945562
Why is every guy in Niji an unironic sexpest?

>>73945343
No, he played Towa's actual copyrighted BGM. Like the personalized copyrighted ones with legal reasoning to actually fuck him over, not bullshit like the mythical "niji totally needs ex-employees to use their own IP" clause that mysteriously doesn't exist anywhere.

>>73945508
Slack doesn't have bizarrely sized giant black bars in between messages.

>>73945562
What a fucking loser lmao

>>73939960
How many Twitter accounts does this nigga have?

>>73945602
Fujos are too lucrative to not be one

>>73945343
You are fucking retarded, it wasn't the royalty-free library every jap streamer uses but songs that were made specifically for Towa and Okayu and weren't free to use

>>73939294
why are these fags being so vague about everything?

>>73939294
Being fat, brown, and retarded is a dangerous trifecta.

>>73945562
AIIIIIIIIEEEE PLEASE DELETE

>>73939363
That was Enna, right?

>>73939294
Isn't this just going to incite more drama? what is this faggot doing?

>>73945040
Fuck Rima, she was sucking the cock of that Kenji nigger who was crying about getting "doxxed" when he was calling Zaion a pedophile when she was actually getting fucking doxxed. All these people are the exact same.

>>73945974
Yeah, the general concensus is that slumsaint was Enna

>>73945898

women behavior also they are afraid of the backlash if they say "fuck you dookie" directly so they tip toe around the subject like fucking cockroaches...

>>73939960
Again, just fanning the flames of drama. What a sack of shit.

>>73945562

>>73945508
>what is the Termination Notice
>what are its community notes
>what is the Black Screen
I love how Sisters will routinely ignore ANY evidence, even from their own side, so as acknowledging it would only shoot holes in their arguments.

>>73944880
They didn’t even get perms for a song to play on Billibilli.

>>73942428
Drama news tubers are scum but Rima seems nice and seems careful with her fact checking.
This was a very minor mistake at worst and the reaction from his fans is way out of proportion considering she backtracked and clarified immediately.
It was his own fucking fault for leaving the door open to begin with with his vagueposting. If it wasn't Rima it would have been somebody else doing the same thing but with less tact.

>>73946121
It gets worse. Kenji got doxxed in 2022, and the Zaion incident was in 2023. Meaning he was fanning the flames of harassment and doxxing against her despite having experienced what it was like as a victim

only thing im getting from this is dramatubers are cancer and kuro is also a crybaby that cant shut his mouth

>>73946503
Mysta was always a menhera bitch, people just forgot with all the niji drama

>>73942428
Weird how sticking your nose into someone else's drama...gets you involved in drama. Who'd have thought.

Nobody on twitter thought it was a dig at Nijisanji. Not a single one.
Dramatubers intentionally misconstrued Kuro so they could do a Nijisanji is le bad and have holodrones clap like seals.
I've antiposted about Mysta more than anyone else on this site but it must be exhausting having spergs and pickme grifters watching everything you do like a fucking hawk so they can use it as ammo in an imaginary culture war appealing to the lowest common denominator

>>73946271
Show it then, instead of saying
>hey look, it's there can't you see it? LOOK RIGHT THERE ON THE CEILING

>>73946924
You should know already. It's your company's documents. I'm not spoonfeeding them for you.

>>73946836
I respect the self reflection, rebecca

>>73946836
>Nobody on twitter thought it was a dig at Nijisanji. Not a single one.
Do you Hereby Declare this ludicrously disingenuous assertion?

>>73947012
>you should know this imaginary evidence
THE ABSOLUTE STATE

>>73946836
If you don't want yout food eaten by a seagull then dont leave your food outside.
Not defending drama channels but he didn't do himself any favours by being so vague when he chose to comment on it.
How could he not know what these channels would do with that when it was Niji related?

>>73947205
What's the matter? Afraid to be proven wrong when you look it up yourself? It's three pages and a single screenshot in an otherwise blank video. It's not that much to go through.

>>73945387
Honestly, it's perfectly find to trust Niji's screenshots from the black stream, because it doesn't make them look any better. Especially with context.
>Managers gave up on getting perms for the song because they asked once and got no response, forcing Selen to get them herself
>Managers didn't think to start getting perms until the talent showed them the finished video
>Managers couldn't even get perms in order for the AR Live on Bilibili
Peak professionalism. If they hadn't dropped the ball on getting the perms for the song in the beginning, they would've had ample time to review the MV before it was uploaded.
Speaking of which, it was uploaded and tweeted before management even responded to Selen in the first place. If they were competent, maybe they could've noticed and privated the video before it went live? Maybe that's too much to ask of NijiEN Management.

Sisters would have a better shot at increasing faith in Niji if they just agreed to follow the corpo's example by trying to memory hole Selen, instead of shitting up the catalog all day.

>>73942646
Weren't you people the ones who whole heartedly let doxnousagi come back and like he didn't drift the whole community?

>>73947549
This. There's only 2 explanations; incompetence or malice (or I guess both). Neither option makes them look like the good guys compared to Selen's supposed misdemeanors

>>73943571
Gura and Cover would like to have a word with you

>>73948599
Dont forget Vox

>>73946121
Zaion Is a pedophile even her husband left her because he's disgusted by her.

>>73945974
Slumsaint is Enna
Plonker is Vox
I believe Playful Spirit was supposed to be Millie

>>73939294
Don't start shit and there won't be shit.

>>73939960
True, Rima shouldn't apologise to Kuro or try to be a better person, he's already made up his mind, his mouth is permanently lodged in Riku's cock regardless of what happens.

>>73949338
Which kind. Asking for a friend.

>>73949635
She just really likes shotas

>>73949338
How come she is single for liking drawings of little boys while Enna gets her ham steamed while having compromising photos of actual children on her phone?

>>73942627
Vsjsister.

>>73942627
>Goes all out instead of answer professionally
Niji level of PR training. You don't answer to drama in any way but professionally, or you just create more drama. Everyone 18+ knows this, whoever else doesn't know that is a minor confirmed.
Kuro should have just said "No, I'm ok with it actually." and moved on, but then he doubled down and now he's reaping what he sow.

>>73944099
>Sister is what they use when they can refute anybody
Freudian slip lmao

>>73950244
>Kuro should have just said "No, I'm ok with it actually."
Lame

>>73944838
Still waiting for any of those talents to say there was no permit Sis. Sounds to me the opposite since both the AR and the MV were being worked for a long time and apparently the AR is ok but the MV is not.
Curious how it works, sounds almost like targeting.

>>73949338
So apparently talking about genshin males means she's a pedophile, in that case all JP members who like an underaged-looking internet PNG are pedophiles by that definition. Fucking stupid. I'm more worried about Enna being a real pedophile in the first place.
The divorce was because that jobless fuck cheated on her, and alimony dictates whoever's making money have to give the jobless one money, which was from her to the jobless fuck. It sucks for her to be in that situation, but that's how alimony works.
If you can't even back shit up or do the bare minimum at researching, shut the fuck up and just stick to watching whichever Nijisanji liver you want to watch. Falseflagging isn't going to improve the state of Niji, you're literally helping what they're doing to themselves, shooting them in the foot.

>>73950288
Yes Nijisis, we know you are the biggest dramafaggot, but that's how people with a job handle gossip. Sorry your country is not a civilized one.

>>73943623
>>73943821
>>73944099
>You insulted me
>Therefore I win
First, you don't know what an ad-hom is. It's only an ad-hom if the argument is that you are wrong because you are dumb. It does not mean you have been insulted. If you insist that any distraction or insult is an ad-hom, though, then know that labeling his post as an ad-hom is also an ad hom.

Second, claiming victory if a fallacy is commited is itself another fallacy, commonly called the fallacy fallacy.

Look it up. Don't pretend to have listened in school, you smoothbrained, uneducated retard.

>>73949338
put a bullet in your skull

>>73950244
There's an even easier way to handle this:
Just don't post that shit. Don't be a needlessly vague "teasing" idiot who is completely unaware of his social environment and especially don't act in a matter that might give your insane fandom an incentive to harass someone, especially when you know that they're insane and when you've been bitching about it for a fucking eon.
Just shut the fuck up. it's that easy.
Just shut up.

>>73950403
False is a nijifaggot?

All these Kuro threads recently have just been Nijisister astroturfing, haven't they?

>>73950466
If you don't follow Kuro why do you care? He posted it for his fans who followed him as Mysta, and made a shitpost the way he always does, not for (You) specifically who hates him. Why make endless threads about it? Are you perhaps upset that reality shows he was put in the live as a voice intentionally?
It seriously does not make sense why there's been this much seethe over Kuro of all people, it's as if you all follow him and keep tabs on him waiting for a slipup, that's not anti behavior anymore that's fan behavior. If you really disliked him you wouldn't post about him for 2 days straight. And yet after I post this, there will be 10 more threads made on 2 tweets from him. Actual obsession.

>>73950639
Counterpoint:
Why harass someone over an honest mistake, sis?
Why send her death threats? Why are you cool with that?

>>73950062
Enna is also fucked in the head she gets no excuses for having cp on her phone. She needs to kill herself for that. Now sayu needs to stop getting wet for little boys. And enna needs to kill herself.

>>73942428
How do you know the sisters are harassing Rima?
I'm scrolling her feed and she isn't saying anything about it, much less connecting to Kuro.

Not that they (who were mostly culled from his fanbase by now anyway) need that excuse, since Rima is decidedly anti-Anycolor.

>>73950781
She talked about it on stream

>>73950778
I haven't seen Sayu do anything of the sort for a while, but she's still goddamn obsessed with Xiao. Still don't get why.

>>73950901
Clip?

>>73950781
she fucking cried on stream fag
fuck males

>>73943728
Should I become a male vtuber to get female attention. I don't mind fujo baiting I'm just so lonely and I hope I get groomed...

>>73950948
>Nijisisters go feral as they always do
>Fuck males
Yeah, it's definitely all his fault

>>73950736
I did not send her death threats, and at the same time I understand that if you're reporting on drama, as Rima is a dramachannel, you are bound to get harassment. She could have just not done it and stream like a normal person instead of trying to be the next Keemstar. Unless you admit that you'd rather watch vtubers talk about tweets instead of stream, that is purely your prerogative and not mine.

>>73951006
If he didn't run his mouth none of this would have happened. So yes, it is literally his fault. Especially since he couldn’t be bothered to say "don't harass anyone."

>>73951151
That's fine, but you don't get to complain when nijiniggers get flamed either

Vshojo was never good

>>73951262
I don't, nor do I give a fuck about that. I have no idea where you think I said that in any of my replies to you.

>>73951151
>I did not send her death threats
You didn't have to specifically deny that, but since you did...

>>73951354
You didn't have to sis, it's obvious

Where are the alleged death threats?

>>73951404
I am answering a reply to an anon who was being civil. I even said I do not care to watch vtubers who stream about tweets rather than regular stream content.

>>73951232
>Especially since he couldn’t be bothered to say "don't harass anyone."
You know that never works

It's not his fault a fanbase he doesn't even want is still attached to him and willing to use him as a convenient excuse to be the worst people on the Internet.

>>73950062
There are no cliques in Njisanji, stop asking questions

>>73950466
The fuck? Is he the only Vtuber who’s not allowed to make a single joke? My brother in Christ, be realistic, you can’t just possibly read that shit and assume it’s some kinda jab to Niji. I read it before Rima quoted it, and though it was one of his lame jokes recognizing he was still in the concert. That’s it. Rima took and accused Nijisanji of something else based on her assumption to support the shit sling to Niji.

>>73946121
>"I will spam numerous unrelated ideas in a post to derail!"
good work, anon. my drones will keep at it! >>73946323
>>73949338

>>73952279
Anons on /vt/ are very easily triggered like a female on her period.

>>73952279
right right just like the ramadan joke sis?
it was totally the dramafags that pointed that one out right?

>>73939294
Or what? He gonna flush more ashes down the toilet?

>>73952279
He's allowed to make the joke, but he's also expected to deescalate a situation after it evolves into "drama" once the other party apologizes and retracts their statements.
Once he doubles down and starts going on the offensive, it becomes new, even worse drama on his part.

I can't wait for Elira, Vox, and Ike to re-debut in Vshojo!
t. Vsjsister

>>73939294
He is, and will always be, a retard that doesn't know how to just shut his fucking mouth in the first place.

>>73939294
whomst

>>73952757
Once a male Niji, always a male Niji.

>>73952300
Kill yourself retard

>>73951714
NTA, but he should learn a good lesson and shut the fuck up in the first place.

>>73952736
sounds more like what a /#/ holodrone would say

>>73952704
Saying dramafags are toxic is escalating the situation?

>>73952843
Are you retarded, anon?

>>73952909
No, that's why I can see why you're full of shit.

>>73952826
He should be able to say whatever he wants without a cabal of mentally-ill subhumans taking it as a rallying call

>>73952843
>I've never been to /#/'s
>I'm not even a Holofag
Cope Vsjsiser.

>>73952279
>you can’t just possibly read that shit and assume it’s some kinda jab to Niji.
I don't see how you can read it any other way. "I must be sleepwalking" sure as hell sounds like his voice accidentally ended up in the concert without him knowing about it.

A simple, "No it was deliberate" would have sufficed, but instead he decided to bite her head off. Which isn't that bad in and of itself, if he's tired of folks dogpiling on the black company for whatever reason, but then to go after her more after she apologizes... That's the sort of spite that got Niji in so much trouble to begin with.

>>73953079
sure thing lol
go on tell me what you are then falseflag faggot

>>73953108
>sure as hell sounds like his voice accidentally ended up in the concert without him knowing about it.
A sign of autism is being unable to understand humor.

>>73953108
Or you know
Sleeping when the fucking concert was going on? Dumbass

>>73953138
First off this post >>73952736 is sarcastic
Second off allowing Nijis in Vshojo was a mistake. They never changed, they don't know how to avoid drama, and they even associate with shitty people. Enjoy the Nijification of Vshojo.

>>73953351
As if Vshitshow was any less of a garbage dump than niji EN, lol.

>>73953204
>>73953310
He's a native english speaker, morons.
At least we can tell you're the same idiots who think Mint hates Doki because of the pants shitting comment.

>>73953545
Vshoujo is the lesser of two evils at this point,however I will retrack my statement is Vox somehow leaves Niji to join Mouse and co

>>73953351
Sure, go on and explain what the irony of your sentence is supposed to be. Also answer my question while you're at it.

>>73953593
So you admit you're both ESL and developmentally stunted? At least you're honest.

>>73953050
He would have made it easier for himself if he was more definite in his statement as >>73953108 suggests. Plus, he associates with people who are very open about not having good experiences with NijiEN, like Matara, notMika soon, and notKyo (even though his claims are very dubious), and has made some statements in the past about how much better his current situation is. Its only natural that people will assume that NijiEN screwed him over again by including his vocals due to a lack of clarification.
His response also just shows that he's the same person deep down, so people will try and one-guy him again since its the easiest way to get a response from him.

>>73953545
NijiEN is way more trash compared to Vshojo.
>>73953734
I'm an Indie enjoyed.

>>73953935
Name the indie(s)

>>73942428
Kuro truly was a Niji. Never knows when to shut the fuck up.

>>73953829
Sister...
>>73953935
based.

>>73939294
he thinks he's so fucking cool with that pfp and the withering rose kek

>>73953593
How the fuck do you even reach to that conclusion, even I don’t get how you motherfuckers went absolutely retarded saying that Mint hates Matara because she missed out in one Karaoke night, and she was having a banter with her, and you bitch ass went absolutely quiet when the podcast dropped.
Your fucking brain is filled with drama bullshit to assume “I must be sleepwalking” means they did it without him knowing, read the full tweet again
>people heard my voice
>people
As in “I’m not watching”, why? Well faggot if you read “I must be sleepwalking” then you connect two fucking dots on your brain shit ass, and think “hmm if he’s not watching it, and he said sleepwalking, it must be he’s joking about waking up to people saying they heard his part as Mysta”, if your brain went into thinking it meant he didn’t know, then you really need to step out of vt and go see a doctor about how they need to remove that fucking brain tumor that doesn’t allow you to think right. Goddamn moron.

Holy shit, your fucking thrist for clowning on Niji makes you faggots look the bigger clowns.

>>73954626
True, accurate, and based AF

>>73954626
Can a polyglot anon translate this to English? I think she's trying to communicate, but all she seems to know are curses and swears.

>>73952736
You should've seen the Vshoujo general sucking Quinn's cock yesterday. Embarrasing.

So what's the latest news about this? The Kuro dude is making sure people are harassing the girl still?

>>73939960
this loser writes like a woman

>>73954991
From what I hear, even the /vsj+/ regulars hate his guts so it's probably just raiders. If they ACTUALLY liked him they'd watch his streams instead of shitting up /vt/.
>>73955000
Yes, though apparently #Cut4Hex boy is getting in on the action.

>>73939294
I can't take I'm serious with that edgy pfp

>>73954856
Your thirst for drama leads your brain to interpret innocuous statements and events in ways that generate more drama even if there is immediate evidence to the contrary

>>73955257
Ah, yes, but how does this relate to Kuro being a retard about not deescalating a situation after the offending party backs down and instead emboldens the people to keep harassing the person who already admitted fault and retracted their statement?

>>73939960
>the only way they get traction is to drama farm and band wagon whatever opinion is popular at the time and switch whenever the general consensus has changed
Is this not true? It's what false did and what every twitter user does

>>73939960
this accurately describes this whole board

>>73954626

great you should work as his manager so he can pay with cum in you mouth, was it so hard to to just say that instead of sperging out like he did after people tried to make sense of his retarded wording? yeah dramatards are scum bun a faggot dramatard is worse

>>73942428
>vshojo talent encouraging harassment
Never change.

>>73946836
Every bad thing that has happened to Mysta in the last 2 years is unironically a direct result of things you specifically did on your own. You one-guyed him into graduating and into no longer having a filter on what he says and did not give a fuck because you are an actual schizophrenic.

For some reason I'm having a deja vu

>>73939960
why are male vtubers such prissy little faggots? just shut the fuck up and stop making it worse for yourself, retard

>>73945562
SIIIIIR YOU MUST DELETE NOW PLEASE SIR

>>73955844

yeah sisters here being retards along with the homosexual man-child that is kuro, same old same old

>>73954626
In English, "I must be sleepwalking" has the connotation that you did something you don't remember or ended up some place you didn't expect to be.

Pretty much the only way to read that sentence is that he unexpectedly ended up in the video.

>>73956203
So should he coddle you because you're retarded?

>>73956286
He shouldn't be surprised it's interpreted that way. Indeed, I'm still not sure if it's not what he originally meant and he just came after her for the shiggles, as I don't see another way to read it.

>>73954626
just proves he is a moron, using figurative speech on those matters

>>73944880
How fucking delusional are you.

How much longer until one of the nijis explodes and goes on their PL to whine about Selen and Doki
Seems like a bunch of these fuckers are just reopening their accounts and addressing things poorly

>>73956383
I think that is what he meant and he didn't expect to be in it, but he simply didn't mean to imply it was accidental on Niji's behalf, just a surprise to him.

>>73955844
You can take a male Niji out of their drama-filled environment, but you can't take their want for drama out of them.

>>73950639
>>73952279
>I should be able to joke about controversial drama without actually contributing to the drama even though I was tangentially related to the drama and directly related to a part of the drama and no one should talk about it either
Nah, this guy is immature and should know better
You can't claim to hate dramafarmers while actively contributing to drama, just hypocritical
He's a lolcow and should be treated as such, especially since he treats other lolcows as such

>>73956493
yeah they want to do just that but are fucking cowards that's the only reason most of the current nijisanji slaves are getting cozy with the ndf/nijisisters because it allows them to use them so say the quiet part out loud without saying anything

>>73943473
Hindsight shows Selen made the right choice. No regrets.
Nijisanji, the worst choices possible. Negligible.
Nothing new.

>>73956493
They prefer to come /here/ to do that.

how can you guys keep up with all these names and dramas

>>73956524
I didn't watch the homo part, so no idea how long his voice was in there for, but
I am guessing Nijisanji doesn't have a clause where ex-livers are compensated for their work used in future profits? Do we have any info on this?

>>73956493
>>73956928
wouldn't be the first time.

>>73956524
He wasn't surprised.

>>73944224
Niji saw the storyboard months ago. If the livers are expected to do all the work, what the fuck do the managers do? Getting permissions is their fucking job, especially when it's asking themselves. They own the IP. But Niji management saw another opportunity to bully Selen; she knows it, we all know it, but Nijisisters will say she didn't follow their rules. no matter how retarded it is. They own the IP. They didn't have to ask the other graduated talents to use it, even in AR.

Hindsight shows Selen made the right choice. She has no regrets.
Nijisanji shows they continually make the worst choices. That are not negligible.
Nothing new. And with new auditions without fixing the problems and morale, it shows they plan on continuing as usual or have given up already.

>>73956493
You don't think when Kuro, in his alt >>73939960, says:
>literal randoms who advocate for someone they believe is right
If by literal randoms he meant Rima and like, then does it not mean that he doesn't believe Doki?

>>73957158
That's exactly what "I must be sleepwalking" means.

>>73939294
>Stop spinning your own narratives
>be opaque
>people speculate

>>73957730
no you don't understand
"I must be sleepwalking" CLEARLY means that it happened when he was asleep. No other reason for him to say that.
The brilliant minds such as >>73953310 know what's up.

>>73957523
I think it just as likely that he is Seething that Doki is getting clout and recognitiob while he is getting the short stick. Like Sayu but even more petty and entitled because he got to leave without getting his reputation dragged through the mud. Oh, and wasn't made to think offing himself was worthwhile during that time as far as we know. Well I guess things are square then since he just dragged his name through the mud all by himself.

>>73957730
Did you know that diagnosed autistics tend to take statements literally? Did you also know that British humor is dry and sarcastic?

>>73956708
If anything the fact kuro/mysta is doing this is the clearest signal yet that nijien deliberately uses their psychopathic fanbase as a weapon intentionally.
This means that siccing their insane psycho fans on people they dislike is not a one-off but instead standard procedure for the entire company.

>>73957098
They own the IP and the voice (so long as it's used for their character) so they aren't legally nor contractually required to alert ex-talents nor compensate them, though they may have some internal policy to at least notify them. His initial tweet suggests they didn't do that either, but his rebuttal suggests otherwise, so who knows.

>>73958001
I doubt it. He's had dedicated schizos since he was Mysta, and he was one of the first to book it out of there. On top of that, nobody really blamed him for anything, so I can't see why he'd have any seething. He just wants to be able to take potshots without anything blowing back on him. He's just stupid and needs a better social media manager to prevent outbursts like this.

>>73958079
Its more interesting that this seems to be a NijiEN-specific problem. IIRC people claim that its the opposite, where the JP Nijis generally apologize for their terrible fandom.

>>73957878
>>73958031
"I must be sleepwalking" is used to suggest surprise, that one did something or ended up somewhere without one's knowledge. I mean you could interpret it literally, and it'd still suggest the same.

>>73939960
while he isn't wrong especially when it comes to twitch vtubers hes still a turbo faggot for posting this after a single tweet which the bitch already apologized
once a niji always a niji even after leaving that prison
>>73946836
holy fucking kek kurosister/rebecca/tourist please stay retarded i don't know which one is you

>>73958297
You know that and I know that, but apparently it's a foreign concept to the sisters.
It's honestly insane the lengths they'll go to to twist people's words just because they don't understand common usage.

>>73958297
Thanks for conceding to the fact that you're autistic. I hope you find help one day for your condition.

>>73959351
At what point do YOU concede that a phrasing can be bad regardless of intent?
Any statement can be 100% right - 100% wrong but depending on it's phrasing will act exclusively from it's objective fact of the matter.
If Kuro says something, and you and 1000 people understand it at a quick glance, but 1000000 don't understand it at a quick glance, does that mean ALL of those people are retarded or that it was simply worded irresponsibly if he was a person who hates drama?
Please be reasonable about this

>>73939294
I feel tired why keep making kuro catalogue posts whoever is doing them, kuro sometimes when he says stuff sometimes seems aggressive but just tired of the stupid stuff. Even though in general I just think he shouldn't respond but it's his choice to make