/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Cool, hope it drops enough that Yagoo can buy it all back and go private again.

>>73725850
I also hope Yagoo tucks his tail and runs back into his cave

Someone trustworthy in the company should buy back the dip. Fuck investors and their ignorance.

>>73725643
Nice. Now if both of them drop another 500, AC will just be fucking delisted and we won't have to worry about this shit anymore. June can't come soon enough.

>>73725643
>sell stocks
>get enough funds to build a huge fuck ass 3d studio
>buy your stocks back at half price
>go private again having lost nothing and gained a 3d studio for half price after scamming the market
God is a holofag

>>73725643
oh nyo, not the hecking jew investors losing their money ??

>>73725643
Average Sis doesn’t get that since Holo never did buybakcs, specilations or dividends, investors are actially optionals since there is no monet invested in the stock.
We laugh about Anycolor because they put almost a billion into their stocks, so any loss is that money being burned.
Come back when you actually understand the stock market, there is a reason why Anycolor is desperate for dividends or an IR while the cover boards shrugs and watches.

>>73725643
I honestly can't read investors' minds

Like are they really bunch of soulless greedy motherfuckers who only invest on money-hungry companies instead of actual good quality companies that has bright future and goals ?

Why the hell do they still believe in Anycolor and try to save their ass while dumping Cover's because Yagoo refused to spend money on stocks ? Is the stock market inhumane ?

>>73726079
investors don't actually give a shit about what they're investing in. They just chase trends.
To them, anycolor and cover are the same company. If anycolor is getting fucked, cover must be too. It's a game of stats and charts, not actual people.

Niji win again

>>73726079
>Are investors greedy
Yes.
>Are they trying to save Anycolor
No.

>>73725643
/biz/ here. Reminder that the end of the fiscal year report comes out May 8th. And Holofes ran out of fucking food. Buy the dip

>>73726079
Read>>73725946
Investors are retarded but this is a win for cover due to how differently they approached this compared to anycolor. Anycolor wanted to dump their shares later for profit, cover went public to get money to invest in assets. If yagoo was smart he'd wait until it dumps further then buy it all up for pure profit
Meanwhile anycolor wants to eventually sell out, which is why they care about stock price which is why they did a stock buyback to pump the price. When the stock price fell for them its a massive loss as they essentially lost whatever % that it dumped meanwhile for cover it's only a loss if they plan on selling more of their share of the stock (which if they are smart they don't)
Its a completely different situation because of their end goals, but if you want to make it even simpler
> stock dumps after buyback = bad
>stock dumps before buyback = Great opportunity to buy in if the company has a future

Forever set a precious moon is lost . The others mourned him with ceremony grand. Rising up to heaven, the mighty moon of Frost with a melody from the morning band.

Well, Rushia? Can you hear it? We dedicate this Requiem to you

>>73726079
sony and investments funds owned by rikus rich family keep on investing on anycolor for some reason, a true mystery as to why

>>73725946
If only this will somehow force Gura to come back and stream...

>>73726215
If i am in europe how can i buy into cover btw?
i got about 50k of free money to dump somewhere for 4-5 years

>>73726241
Who is Rushia?

>>73726294
You wouldn't understand

>>73726294
She invaded Ukraine on February 24th 2022, and got terminated on the same day.

>>73726267
No it won't. Guess we'll be seeing her next month. If there is one

>>73726622
woah what? there won't be a next month?!

>>73725643
looks proportional

>>73726224
Investors arent retarded, they saw a growth company fail at every growth project and thus reevaluated the stock

>>73726652
It's over. It's the end of times. Rushia is causing the end of it all

>>73726622
Silly anon there's always a month after the previous one
I also used to get confused about this future thing so i get you

>>73726676
>>

>>73726664
I can't believe Selen killed the JP stock market.

>>73726652
Anon have you seen the news?

>>73726676
>at every growth project
Can you show me these growth projections you are expecting of? Because i know one growth project that it didn't fail like you said, which were the ones published by cover, so your statement is 1) already at least partially false; 2) unless you bring receipts, entirely false

>>73726079
Welcome to the stock market.
I'm guessing you weren't paying attention during the whole Gamestop thing? That's how a lot of us initially got in.

>>73726564
>wanted to launch a invasion but was still employed
>gets herself terminated
>immediately launches invasion now that she is free

I kneel

>>73726730
what is hlzntl, what is regloss etc

>>73726696
There is no future, chumbro... it's over

>>73725643
yes very nice

>>73726742
Is Mel Israel

>>73726786
kek

>>73725643
Oh no! All that money Yagoo spent on buybacks got wiped out! Wait, wrong company.

>>73726273
It depends on your broker / bank. Ask whichever platform you want to use. There are some nice ones on the net too, I suggest Degiro. Pretty sure you can buy Jap stocks on there.

>>73725643
Doesn't that just make it easier for Cover to buy stocks back?
Niji already bought a lot their own shares back at a price that was way too high.

so I'm an idiot with stocks. What's this about delisting? How does that work? If it gets too low, AC has to buy up all the stocks back or something? Do we know what that point is?

>>73725643
JPY all time low. Yen increases at the same time as holo stock increase, Double the profit

How many shares did they sell originally? Why don't cddct chads buy in and pressure Cover to kill the homo branch?

>>73726871
Probably because they can’t?

>>73726786
>1 year meme
Lol

>>73726847
AC hit the circuit breaker once already, if they fall below a certain threshold now they get put on the improvement plan where they have 1 year to improve their stock to a certain valuation or get kicked out of the stock market.
>>73726847
Not sure how it works in Japan but in the US you just become a bag holder.

>>73726079
How is it hard to understand? I am a fan of Hololive and I would not buy their stock as an investment. There isn't a single reason to buy it at all, a reason that isn't sentimental anyway.

They don't pay dividends, they don't pump the stock with buybacks. Why would I ever want it? The stock might go up in value in the long term, like maybe in 10 years it's 10x what it is now.. but it's just not a reliable investment. There are countless stocks that are stable in price just like COVER which pay substantial dividends and they are in far better industries. If Niji wasn't such a failure, even their stock would be better.

>>73725850
>>73725946
Holy delusions.
Fagoo doesn't have any capital beside stocks he owns. In other words, if stocks go down, all his money go down. He will never have enough money to make it private again.

>>73726079
They don’t like Cover because he doesn’t suck the talents dry and cut costs to line their pockets. They aren’t trying to save Anycolor, far to the contrary, they aren’t allowed to dump it as fast as they want. They just know that Cover is in the same industry and assume that the industry as a whole is going under. Plus, all this happening because of a prominent EN talent leaving Nijisanji might get them worrying about the fallout of someone like Pekora getting terminated like that, without understanding how unlikely that is.

>>73726730
The third party ones that investors decided to trust over the company they invested in.

Right now all JP stock options are down, and the Yen plummeting, the JP economy is taking a hit the past 2 months.

Anycolor isn't plummeting any further thanks to the selling ban that they enforced until the end Q4 in hopes that they can (hopefully) improve their financial report before the external investors loose faith.

Cover has invested a huge portion of their liquid assets in creating a new studio and a new branch in the US, their stock price will keep going down over de decay of the NIKKEI until their projects are done and the spending stabilizes.

>>73727033
If Anycolor has a selling ban, how is their stock going down by 0.47%?

>>73726962
>Fagoo doesn't have any capital beside stocks he owns
poor fagoo has to sell stocks every morning to buy bread, so sad
We have to make hololive great again!
Vote for me Gawrgonzola Gurate! I will make hololive great again with my small feet!

>>73727019
Show them?
Since you are talking so confidently about this surely you have any evidence that these projections don't only exist but what the expected values for each of these metrics was right?
Surely you aren't making stuff up that you can't prove outside of saying stuff "stock went down, surely it was because there were projections that they failed to meet and its not just a random irrational dump"?

>>73727074
just short selling.

>>73727074
Because selling ban is just a holocope made up by holonigs

>>73727033
How long can these selling bans last?

Fucking deserve it for the stupid shit they tried to pull lately.

>>73725643
>Anycolor entered the market at 3300
>Cover entered the market at 1300
>Anycolor being worth less than 3300 is BAD
>Cover being worth more than 1300 is GOOD

nijinigger doesn't know how stocks work lol

ITT
>Nijiniggers gloating about shit they can't understand cause their third world brains can only grasp "NUMBER BIG GOOD" concepts

>>73727267
Do we need the Nintendo comparison again?

>>73727074
Because Nikkei and Yen are down.

If the value of the market and the value of the currency in witch your stock is based go down, the valuation of your assets go down, is that simple.

Then, you can still loose or gain valuation "through faith" in your company based on an array of variables, like, PR, company decisions, behavior of CEO and/or important figures in the company, spending of the company etc..

>>73725643
>I guess Holofes didn't do as well as they expected
It was obvious when this year's holofes get absolutely and utterly mogged by a fucking cafeteria from nijifes

>>73727074
It would be dropping more without restrictions, and the heaviest shackles have already been removed. So long as the fundamentals are fine or at least salvageable, the stock has time to recover. Anycolor didn’t, so they’re on a natural downward trend.
>>73727203
Anon, I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m saying those predictions were inherently irrational. There were threads about this when Cover released their most recent financial report and the price went down despite them having to revise their internal growth projections up by 20%.

>>73727329
This nintendo?

>>73727355
Holofes sold over 80k tickets
Nijifes sold 60k
Why do you retards like to lie so much?. Scared of the truth?

invest in cover, also invest in grudgeposting

>>73726786
ruh roh, anonswhohaverichinvestorsasaoochitomos..

>>73726786
That's not the win you think it is, it means anyone that bought since June has lost money. With nothing big on the horizon it's not reasonable to expect the situation will improve.
>>73726215
Pink wojak poster?

>>73727381
Anon, selling more tickets means they’re losing money!

>>73727240
I'm not sure how it works in JP market, in EU market, without a permit of the commision only a financial quarter.

>>73727358
>9.96 trillion capitalization
They are fine

>>73727358
Do you actually think Nintendo is an American company?

>>73727381
Holofes sold over 30k tickets
Nijifes sold 120k
Why do you retards like to lie so much?. Scared of the truth?

>>73726079
AnyColor aims profit and growth at any cost, which investors love.
Cover aims for steady and safe growth while making sure the talents are taken care of, which investors hate.

>>73727218
>nijinigs didnt even know about their own company
GRIM

>>73727452
And holocope continues...

>>73725643
Once it passes the 1500 mark, there goes the stock

>>73727409
Holofans don't give a fuck if some jew investors lose out. They donate to their oshis and buy merch and none of that changes the fact that hololive is continuing to grow every single year
Nijisanji dumped BILLIONS of yen into their stock. Split it. AND Loan margin'd it. Riku really really desperately wants the stock to recover. Tanigo only cares about his Idol Dream. And as long as that's going strong. Hololive will be fine. Nijisanji has no future because RIKU doesn't want it to

>>73727444
why are they in red after nijifes?
i thought nijifes is a big success?

>>73727381
>>73727444
Are both of you niggers pulling these numbers out of your ass or something

>>73727444
Holofes sold over 400 tickets
Nijifes sold over 12

Why do you retards like to lie so much?. Scared of the truth?

>>73727419
Yeah that's what i'm saying. Nintendo's stock is "lower" in pure numbers to nijisanji.. but who the fuck is gonna say nintendo is a worse off company???
>>73727443
???I don't know what you're trying to say there.

>>73727357
>predictions
Again what predictions? Give me numbers and names, what are these magical predictions that you are talking about that cover failed to meet
I swear to god, why do people talk about stuff they have no source or knowledge about?
Who made said predictions and what exactly did they predict was going to happen?

If you have literally no evidence for anyone making any predictions can you stop talking about this "hololive failed to meet investors predictions" and just say "we have no clue why the stock fell" instead? Because that's literally what it is right? Fuck maybe for all we know hololive beat investor predictions by 100000% but they just happened to all want to buy 6 months worth of soup and take money out of cover stock to pay for that, and it'd be just as rational of a prediction as that
Literally don't bother responding unless you have actual proof of these predictions being made and then failing to be met (or AT THE VERY VERY LEAST big investors in hololive stock saying that "cover didn't meet the expected growth that we projected for them")

>>73727486
preach brother.

>>73727409
>be anycolor
>goes public in 2022, 3255JPY
>today in 2024
>2312JPY, 29% down

>be cover
>goes public in 2023, 1349JPY
>today in 2024
>1975JPY, 46% up

in what way is cover not winning here lmao

Negligible.

>>73727494
They pay companies to sponsor them instead of other way around.

>>73727557
You forgot to apply the cope filter the NDF utilize before every post.

>>73727515
Holofes haven't sold a single ticket. In fact, they had to by ticket themselves
Nijifes sold over 4
Why do you retards like to lie so much?. Scared of the truth?

>>73727494
They weren't? They said if you only counted tickets to appear in the actual festival, they were in the red but if you count all the revenue they made with online tickets and whatever else, they were in the black

You guys do know you're arguing with immature children right? If you find it fun dunking on retarded nijiniggers you do you but keep that in mind

>>73727599
tf? they pay companies to sponsor them? what tf is this LMAOO

>>73727541
>don't know what you're trying to say there.
That's not Nintendo's stock. The one based in Tokyo is and it's in Yen

>>73727612
In the black just like a black company only cares about profits to the point they dgaf about suicide

>>73727557
Because this is not a debate, is a discussion, and the way that works is that no one is going to change the minds nor educate one another. Is just people throwing shit to the wall trying to deflect.

This topic goes over the head of 99% of people that doesn't have a high education in economics, so they make shit up and look up to the daily changes without any comprehension of what they are looking at other than the pretty colors and shapes.

>Holonigs 2 weeks ago:
>You just wait! Cover's stock is about to cross Anycolors in 2 weeks!!!
>Holonigs now:
>A-anycolor is w-winning t-too slow

>>73727639
huh right you are. Well it dropped around the same amount cover's stock did today. Seems to be a market wide thing. Anycolor's ALSO dropped down that low before people bought the dip. It's literally just a market thing and has nothing to do with cover's performance

>>73726962
>I don't know how the stock market works but let me pretend I do because I want someone I don't know to look bad
What manner of mental illness inspires such delusions?

>>73727725
no one is saying anycolor is winning except you shit eating mongoloids KEKAROO. How was thar AR ""live"" again?. Looked very.. purple to me.. Must be the ghost of a certain backstabbed ex liver coming back to haunt them ;)

>>73727765
nijisisters are retarded, jealous women

>>73727557
Ok. Let's say you have a limited amount of shells. You only have so much so you want them to sell for as much as possible so if their value goes down, that's really bad. Now let's say Jason has a lot more shells than you AND they're worth more in value than your shells. Replace shells with shares and you get the picture

>>73727725
>Holonigs 2 weeks ago:
>You just wait! Cover's stock is about to cross Anycolors in 2 weeks!!!
tbf its pretty close 2312 vs 1975 is 85% of the way through, 1 year ago it was around 40% of value
if people that worked on stocks were that accurate they'd be rich, so honestly holofags are hitting above the belt in their ability

>>73727798
That's some juicy HOLOSEETHE

>>73727803
This doesn't make any sense cause the "shells" in this case are irrelevant to the business. "Jason" cares a LOT about his shells and the price of them. It's literally ALL he cares about. So when the price goes down. He cries and pisses himself. He buys up a ton of shells to inflate the price before it crashes down again. He loans his shells out as currency to buy other people's shells with. Value still goes down
NotJason doesn't give a fuck if his shells sell or not because his actual business is thriving

>>73727725
only nijiniggers put the term "anycolor" and "winning" together

>>73727862
brainless nijiniggers parroting insults they don't understand when backed into a corner by facts and logic. Enjoy your folded branch and your irrelevant talentless organs ;)

>>73727557
>in what way is cover not winning here lmao
>Buy Cover Corp shares at 2100 YEN
>Cover Corp shares fall to 1975 YEN
It's not hard. Sure people who bought Day 1 are still making some kind of a profit, but that thing is going down with no signs of stopping.
>>73727486
>Holofans don't give a fuck if some jew investors lose out
Congratulation on missing the point of the conversation.

>>73727760
Goldman Sachs completely hauled ass out if Japan a while back. They knew something and Japan's economy is about to get ass fucked by something.

>>73726273
Just buy bitcoin duh

>>73727862
nijinigger here really thinks holofags are shitting on them when it's just probably some random dramafag

>>73727865
>>73727798
Of course holobrowns being newfags tourists from reddit.

>>73727908
didn't Goldman Sucks tell people to invest in kurokara

>>73727892
>facts and logic
Those terms are the literal opposite of what holonigs are able to sperg out

>>73727952
Here's the tip:
do the opposite of what the big banks say in short to medium term.

>>73727928
It's known that holobrowns are the real niggers of vtubing community, so it's extremely unlikely that it could be anyone besides holonig

who is the seething nijisister trying to convince kek

>>73728049
Itself, most likely

>>73728007
>This post was typed by a poorfag with a sub 1k net worth

>>73728013
the irony of your ESL ass writing

>>73728007
yeah that's the point

>>73727903
>Buy Cover Corp shares at 2100 YEN
>Cover Corp shares fall to 1975 YEN
And how is that hurting COVER and not some dumb investors that vtubing fans really don't give a fuck about
>Congratulation on missing the point of the conversation.
Sister this is a VTUBING FORUM for VTUBERS. Nobody here gives a fuck about this shit except dramaniggers and tribalfags. The POINT is that cover corp's stocks have no effect on the business. anycolor's DO because RIKU cares more about them than maintaining his business. What part of "our company is not one we invest in for years expecting long term investments" did you not understand?

>>73728013
sorry to intrude but nijinigs sound better. it's like it was MADE for nijiniggers LOLOL

>>73726959
>maybe in 10 years it's 10x what it is now
>1000% gain in the years
>not a stable investment
Most trust funds would would be ecstatic to have 100% gain in ten years. Both you and investors are retards chasing quick cash and market trends

>>73728081
>the irony of your ESL ass writing
>3+ grammatical, syntax and punctuation mistakes in a tiny sentence
Holy projection

>>73728106
nijisister failed comprehension what's new. fking ESLs acting smart lol

>>73728114
>Both you and investors are retards chasing quick cash and market trends
Welcome to modern Parasite Capitalism.
You don't invest you aim to suck any money you can out of a company, bail and repeat leaving a pile of destroyed companies in your wake

>>73728108
>nijiniggers
>a bunch of repetitive similar syllables with different phonemes
vs
>holoniggers
>literally rolls out perfectly from tongue

>>73727933
>>73727966
>>73728013
This seething samefag is so obvious and hilarious. Listen sister. Nijisanji is fucking toast. The official fucking numbers we have on ficket sales PROVES holofes 2024 sold 80k. and nijifes 2023 sold 60k. Holofes sold out to the point of running out of food. Super chats and ccv and merch sales are up across the board. NijiEN is down 40%. They lost their most popular female livers in selen and pomu. Their most profitable remaining livers have not streamed at ALL the entirety of Q4. They are fucking toast

>>73728217
your tongue slurps on too much riku cum to know better anyway. go back to his yacht and keep getting fked sister

>>73728223
Holy fuck, you just literally proved my words about holoniggers being reddit tourist by not understanding what "samefag" means.
Everything else is a bunch of hololies without any proof. Well, as expected from holonigs.

>>73728326
>No arguments
>Proceeds to HOLOSEETHE
Ah, classic

>>73728070
Feel free to follow the big banks. Only newbies and naive traders who believes them.

>>73725643
>Kurosanji implodes
Investors be like
>SHIT DUMP ALL VTUBING STOCKS THIS SHIT IS TOXIC AHHHHH
Lmao, buy the dip faggots this retards dont know jack shit. Easy money

>>73728385
Looks like I was too generous with 1k...

Imagine if nijisisters spent 1% of the energy wasted seething here on supporting nijisanji instead

>>73728349
This is a holoboard nijinigger. You vermin are the bottom of the barrel. The dregs everyone fucking hates. You are all sub-human doxing inbred SEAMonkeys. Fujoshis imported from K-Pop constantly seething and malding over your precious rape ASMR fags. A fanbase who oshis the COMPANY instead of the vtubers in the company, Call me a holonig all you want. It will never change the fact the entirety of the vtubing community hates you

>>73728377
>No arguments
Were you making any arguments?

>>73728441
>holoboard
Holoslums, hologhetto, holofavela
>A fanbase who oshis the COMPANY instead of the vtubers in the company
Ironic hearing it from a holonig
>It will never change the fact the entirety of the vtubing community hates you
Another common projection coming from retarded holopedos

>>73728438
I'm glad they don't. The quicker Niji dies, the quicker I can go back to relaxing and not thinking about another black stream potentially cropping up.

Holy shit, never thought they'd actually go lower than 2k BEFORE the dreaded Q4 results. Hahahahah!!!

>>73728217
Nijinigger trying to shed off their nickname just like saying sisters are a slur

>>73728550
How about you go back to twitter?

>>73728217
nijiniggers is too iconic at this point its hard to beat that

>>73728438
Bold of you to assume I don't shit post here while catching up on VODs

>>73728349
>All lies
Care to provide the official ticket sale numbers then?.. enlighten us

>>73728564
Show hand, brown creature

>>73728586
Nijisister here probably rubbing one off watching Vox's blowjob streams ew have some class please

>>73728591
>Where are your proofs
>N-no y-you
Lmao, holoniggers are so predictable

>>73726050
>hurp durp, I watched msnbc once
Shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're talking about

>>73728678
OOF NIJINIGGER IS COPING

>>73728705
>HOLOSEETHE

>>73728550
I don't see holofans doxing and sending death threats to rushia sana vesper magni and mel
I don't see holofans making constant obsessive seethethreads about an ex talent every single fucking day. Blaming them for all their woes (seriously there were over a DOZEN "I wish selen fucking died" posts on /NijiEN/ When the AR live was happening)
But nijiniggers not only dox and harass their ex livers like sayu and doki and mint. They harass their CURRENT livers like scarle for the starbucks shit. They drove mano aloe to jump off a building. They forced gundo into graduating for a fucking baseball joke. They persona non grata ALL ex nijis and completely rewrite history to make themselves feel better, They care more about irrelevant shit like the stock price of the company as opposed to the actual content the vtubers are producing. And the wellbeing of the talents, Making excuses for not giving them playbuttons and the 2% merch cut. Seriously i could go on forever and ever about how fucking cancer nijifans are

>>73728748
>I don't see holofans doxing and sending death threats to rushia sana vesper magni and mel
Holy kek, holonigs are trying to memoryhole this shit?
>But nijiniggers not only dox and harass their ex livers like sayu and doki and mint. They harass their CURRENT livers like scarle for the starbucks shit. They drove mano aloe to jump off a building. They forced gundo into graduating for a fucking baseball joke. They persona non grata ALL ex nijis and completely rewrite history to make themselves feel better, They care more about irrelevant shit like the stock price of the company as opposed to the actual content the vtubers are producing. And the wellbeing of the talents, Making excuses for not giving them playbuttons and the 2% merch cut.
Ah, that famous holofalseflag.

>>73728748
cuz nijiniggers see everyone that's against them=hololive. theres too many ppl shitting on niji their bigbrain cant differentiate anymore

>>73728629
Why must you people immediately think of women masturbating when you think of someone watching Niji. Is this some kind of weird fetish to think of your perceived enemy as a horny femcel?

>>73728928
I don’t know, perhaps because of that little factor known as the use of a doxxsite as a homebase?

>>73728836
>Holy kek, holonigs are trying to memoryhole this shit?
Show me proof of any of those vtubers being sent threats after leaving.. Meanwhile Sayu's dox was not only posted on twitter but RETWEETED BY KYO
>Ah, that famous holofalseflag.
You're telling me holofans harassed gundou and scarle?. Holofans aren't Palestine worshipping twitter trannies or baseball fags. Both of which are the cultivated fanbase of niji

>>73728928
Not really perceived, just cold hard facts

I am gonna say that the next few weeks/months are gonna be hilarious.
It's basically gonna be holo stock reclining more and more and holoniggers coming up with newer and newer cope.

>>73728748
go to your nearest mental hospital plz fag

>>73729000
Well if they're horny femcels and Holobronies are horny incels, make love and not war?

>>73729013
Holochads don't give a fuck about cover corp stock. Because we know yagoo doesn't give a shit and won't offload the company cause of it unlike riku who has PROMISED to do so in the future
>>73729018
>No argument
I accept your concession ;)

>>73728986
>Holofans aren't Palestine worshipping twitter trannies or baseball fags. Both of which are the cultivated fanbase of niji
Are you just pretending to be retarded? Holoniggers are niggers who absolutely hate niji due to jealousy and would falseflag as niji fanbase at any opportunity.

>>73728865
Like you calling everyone a sister. Taste your own medicine. Stop projecting yourself to the minorities that have valid criticism to selen, fag. Go watch stream greyfag

>>73729076
>>
The sheer irony of this post.

>>73729046
I don't think holobronies want to make love with black company supporters though. who knows when they'll make another 58 page document once they are done

>>73729076
You retards love to project your crimes on others but no. Holofans don't give a shit about your shitty nobody organs. We're too busy actually supporting our talents, Unlike you shitters that constantly falseflag with unicorn slop and your fuwamoco and gura seethe

Nijisisters really got riled up after the ARlive got clowned on lmao

>>73729046
>and Holobronies are horny incels
they aren't though that's the point only the nijisister side keeps projecting

>>73729013
Lmao buy the dip retard

>>73729099
>>valid criticism
Blaming her for all of NijiCN(EN)’s problems isn’t a valid criticism.

>literally had a stock market April Fools game.
>still confused about stock market.
In one ear and out the other. Do you really need Miss Bliss to dumb it down further for you?

>>73729099
>have valid criticism to selen
Why are you bringing up selen out of nowhere nijinigger?. And what VALID criticism do you retards have?. Literally none. You call her dooki and a blackmailing grifter in the face of the entirety of reality proving you wrong at every possible turn

>>73726757
Cover has been retarded with their side projects, but most of those projects didn't cost them much, and their main product (Hololive) is doing better than ever. They could lose big if HoloEarth flops, but only time can tell.

>>73729056
>Holochads don't give a fuck about cover corp stock.
Of course they "don't give a fuck". They are trying to dig their head in the sand because they are getting utterly mogged, lmao.

>>73729099
Nijiniggers still obsessed with selen after kicking her out of the black company KEKW I CAN'T

>>73729117
>Holonigs start projecting after getting demolished in an argument
What else is new?

>>73728106
>And how is that hurting COVER
Because it makes it harder for Cover to sell shares at high prices in the future.

>>73725643
OH NONONO
WHATS OUR NARRATIVE TO DAMAGE CONTROL NOW HOLOSISTERS???

>>73729120
that's why they did not allow screenshots, people might mistake it for gmod

>>73727267
This. It was a bad idea to introduce stock market to nijimorons who don't know how thins work.

>>73729178
>Utterly mogged
Delusional retards don't understand how stocks work. And they don't understand that hololive is mogging nijisanji in literally every single regard

did all the nijisisters gather in this thread to combine their seething or is it just one particularly insane sister, they all sound the same

>>73729046
yeah I think I'll pass.
This is beyond just "tribal" shit at this point. I want them gone forever after the garbage from february. Thanks for introducing me to my oshi but fuck off forever please, or at least go back to japan and never come back. I'll be satisfied if that happens too

>>73729246
Why would yagoo want to sell shares of his company?. Some retard might buy them and force shitty decisions on the company. He is in it for the Idol Dream. RIKU is the one you wanna look at in regards to flipping his company for a quick buck

>>73729254
it's holobronies. nice try trying to blend in as a nijisister holobrown

>>73728411
Me? I don't follow anyone's advice. That's just the advice I would give to newbies, just don't believe anyone's recommendations.
If I have to find some market advice, that means I'm not good enough and I have to stop the trade to learn more until I'm certain of my own analysis.
I'm doing great that way, when I followed big banks was a terrible time for me.

Oh and I believe traders/investors who boasts their net worth are doomed to fail unless they quit as early as possible. The most important metrics is if you can make consistent profits, then you're doing great. Doesn't mean that you have to be right 100%, you just need to be in profit most of the time. My net worth may be higher than yours but I'm not gonna compare that, I feel at peace already knowing that I can make consistent profits so I don't really care about dick measuring contest.

>>73725643

>>73729242
>Parroting the same thing said but replacing niji with holo
"I know you are but what am i" is the level nijiniggers have reached.. how utterly pathetic and hilarious

I want to remind everyone how holonigs were coping that every dip in their stocks is higher than previous ones.
Here is another one - those retards were claiming that "Cover is only 30% public" only because their bargain-bin-tier company initial stock price was 30% of Anycolor's initial stock price. Yes, that's how retarded they are.

>>73729076
https://dec.2chan.net/73/res/1548502.htm

1500 archive incidents and troubles caused by nijifags falseflagging as holofans/other vtuber fans/jp fleshstreamers

>>73729351
Any second now, it’ll kick in.

Hey i found that mogging somebody ordered

>>73729099
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Are'nt nijiwhores the only ones that think they have a valid criticism against ex livers

>>73729359
Now say that without crying

>>73729416
is this a mogging for ants

>>73728217
sorry... nijinigs just rhymes better

>>73729431
>Continues with the juvenile insults after being called out
Kekaroo.. so pathetic sis.. you know this board is for people above the age of 18 right?

>>73729402
>Nijichads laughing openly at holo collapsing
>falseflag
retard

>>73729584
holo isn't collapsing though, that's niji

>>73729553
> you know this board is for people above the age of 18 right?
Ironic hearing it from a retarded holokiddie

>>73729639
>N-no y-you
Pathetic

>>73729553
Never forget

>>73729416
That is just the last 5 streams right?, 4 of those for elira were in january.. man think of all the lost income from lack of streaming.. not to mention the following facts
>Enna's birtdhay was mogged by doki auctioning off a piece of blank paper for charity
>Petra and Rosemi's 3D Lives were mogged by Altare and Axel's
>Millie and Maria's outfit reveals COMBINED didn't even break 2k superchats
>Sonny Bozo's 24k birthday was more money than he had made in his last 7 months of streaming combined. having earned 22k from between august 31st and his birthday in late march
>Dokibird earned 95k in superchats from the moment she was monitized on February 7th to today. a span of a little over 2 months. Mogging literally every single nijisanji member's earnings during that time
>Gura's taiwan merch drop made over 2 million USD in profits. More than vox akuma's ENTIRE total superchat earnings
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on. Ipsofacto. Nijisanji is toast

>>73729731
Projection is a national sport for nijisisters

>>73729721
yes please tell me about all the lost subscribers, viewers, sponsors and revenue hololive suffered in the past months

>>73729805
You're literally typing in a thread about the lost revenue

>>73729737
>Gura's taiwan merch drop made over 2 million USD in profits
But a single (1) fujo spends more than that on his merch.

>>73729168
and how would an investor have confidence in holoearth when they see clear evidence that Cover has no idea what they are doing and how incompetent they are?

>>73729805
>Stocks falling uncontrollably
>Holofes got absolutely and utterly mogged by nijifes
>Cover has to bot all their streams in order to hide their real numbers

>>73729830
slurp it all up, don't spill a single drop

>>73729961
A sold out concert, A DC partnership, and a U.S. branch really is a sign of incompetence huh.

Nijiniggers are in full force today, huh. What happened to elicit such activities?

If nijisisters are seething this hard just because the ARlive was a flop I really want to see the gates of hell open when nijiEN finally gets folded

>>73727557
yeah, it's a good thing the stock price dropped fast so the chart couldn't catch it

>>73729994
Yen fell more than that during that time period, so they are actually in red.

>>73730112
>>73730116
>Holonigs tongue each other's anuses
>Nijichads are trying to tell them to stop
That's the reason

Why doesn't Cover just get rid of all the slackers and underperformers? Who would miss someone like Gura or Sora?

>>73729737
But WAIT there's more!
>Calli Kroni IRyS Bae and Fauna's birthdays all each mogged luca's birthday
>Luca's birthday only made just over 10k in supas, Down from 20k the previous year and 40k the year before
>Holo 5th fes sold out of tickets within 30 minutes. For a venue with a capacity of 47000, Each individual stage having a 10000 audience member capacity
>Nijifes 2023 by comparison only had a 20000 person capacity
>Marine's 3 million subscriber special made over 52000$ in superchats.. a single stream. Worth more than kuzuha's entire march earnings (including his april 1st earnings on top of that)

>>73730122
Doesn't that mean niji is in even deeper shit then

>>73730117
Oh no no no no. Cover is closer to slipping below their starting value than holonigs think.
Holokek status?

>>73729989
>Stocks falling uncontrollably
The entirety of the Japanese stock market is falling the exact same amount
>Holofes got absolutely and utterly mogged by nijifes
Fanfiction. Holofes was in a bigger venue than nijifes and they sold out in under 30 minutes
>Cover has to bot all their streams in order to hide their real numbers
You can't bot superchats and merch sales retard

>>73730267
And the fucking audience in the stadium.

>>73729880
>A single Chinese fujo spends more than 2 million dollars on merch
LOL... I mean you are obviously baiting but here is a (You) anyway

how do you guys have the energy to constantly btfo the nijisisters, this isn't fun at all for me

This type of thread is fucking cancer. For some reason jannies let this one slide and now it became a place for Nijisis and Holofags to circle jerk on

Since when you fuckers simp for a stock market this hard ?

>>73730243
Inbred fucking mongoloid retards. Keep seething over your dead branch. Keep oshing the stocks and keep tonguing tazumi's asshole. You'll get your gift cards this time i promise!!

>>73726079
No... part of it is that it has been going down for like 2 weeks, investors panic and sell. Others who have more trust in the stock, see the down trend and sell, just to buy the dip before Q4 report, hoping that it will surge up after.

>>73730303
This number is as trustworthy as the numbers of previous anon.

>>73729989
>>Cover has to bot all their streams in order to hide their real numbers
You mean that one schizo from /here/ who always bots Advent streams?

ITT We have the following
>Nijikeks taking the entire japanese stock market falling as a sign cover in particular is doomed
>Shitting and pissing themselves to the point they dismiss all real examples of hololive mogging niji out of fear
>So utterly mindbroken they resort to peepeepoopoo kindergarden insults and parroting insults people throw at nijifans cause they are as morally and creatively bankrupt as their oshi company
To summarize.. Kek fucking W

>>73726837
Except that Cover doesn't want to buy back anything. They are in for the long term game, and want to make the stock a good long term investment for the investors.

>>73730267
>The entirety of the Japanese stock market is falling the exact same amount
Fanfiction. Cover is the fastest falling out of most.
>Holofes was in a bigger venue than nijifes and they sold out in under 30 minutes
Holo's pathetic shack attendance got utterly mogged by the attendance of nijifes's cafeteria
>You can't bot superchats and merch sales retard
Seeing how Fagoo started numberfagging on views, subscriber and even clipper channels after getting absolutely mogged in income, I wouldn't be surprised if those superchats are coming from the company at expense just to show: "L-look, w-we a-are winning a-at s-something"

>>73730392
We literally have the public numbers for the merch sales... It sold for 2.1 million USD and unlike kurosanji gura gets 50% of that as opposed to... 2%

>>73730365
>Keep seething
>That post
Holy kek, can holonigs stop projecting?

>>73730112
Couldn’t run damage control so people would stop laughing at their concert

>>73730417
Nah, that's just a /#/ retard. Cover bots all of holo streams by itself

>>73730516
That's some cope or bait sis

>>73730516
>Literally making up bullshit about public numbers we can see with our own fucking eyes
>Imagines a magical cafeteria that totally exists in reality and not the fantasy of this inbred pagpag's delusional infected mind
>"N...Nooo hololive is superchatting and buying their own merch to make themselves look better guys..."
That last one might be the most delusional fucking cope i've seen in my ENTIRE fucking life. You have to be a troll. PLEASE tell me you are a troll

>>73730619
You WISH cover was botting you seething coping delusional nijifaggot ;)

>>73725643
What did niji do now? it's always the NDF.

>>73727074
Because this idiot has no fucking clue what he is talking about. There is no ban on selling, there is a limit on how much a stock can go down in a day before sales are stopped. And is the case for every Japanese stock, not just Anycolor.

>>73730636
I really don't understand them if they're trolls, is it fun pretending to be on the losing side?

Why are nijifaggots so fucking mindbroken and retarded?. It's probably all one singular butthurt jakarta sis posting on cooldown being solo BTFO'd by this entire thread. Keep coping sis. Holo is thriving. Niji is dying

Buy the fucking dip retards this is free money

>>73727355
In what Universe did that happen?

Friendly reminder the -sisters word is a racial slur and you should stop unsing it.

>>73730852
fuck off nijiwhore

>>73727381
Holofes actually sold 86k, and Niji sold 42-48k, I don't remember exactly.

>>73730852
>Unsing
Esl-sister...

>>73730553
>We literally have the public numbers for the merch sales
Let me guess, you are talking about those "merch sales tables" made by that one /#/ retard which he pulls from his ass?
>It sold for 2.1 million USD and unlike kurosanji gura gets 50%
Gura gets 360$, it's less than 0.02%, not 50%. Unless you are suggesting that real sales of Guras merch are 720$, which is more likely.

>>73727444
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Holofes sold 86k tickets, Nijifes sold 48k or so. I don't know who lied to you, but the numbers are public, you know? Holofes sold nearly double the amount of tickets Nijifes did.

>>73730636
The ability of holonigs to seethe at truth is truly astonishing. But no matter how much you seethe, you won't change the truth.

>>73730047
Investors don't like corporations that can't diversify their products.

>>73728114
Did you see the word "maybe" in that sentence at all? Maybe MILFcoin will 1000x in 2 years. Why aren't you all in on it? We don't know about the future. Vtuber industry is just part of the larger entertainment industry, that's not exactly an industry which is underserved nor is commercial entertainment something you need to survive. Cover could be bankrupt or under black management in 10 years.

>>73730993
who fucking cares who sold more tickets
Nothing changes the fact that nijisanji DOES NOT CARE about its livers and almost drove 2 of them to suicide. Adding insult to injury are the nijisanji fanbase continuing to HARASS THEM even after they have moved on

>>73730993
Are holoniggers really that retarded that they think that everyone will believe their lies without any proof?

>>73729120
I can't wait until the mass sister suicides

>>73730679
Hololosers tears are so copious

>>73731167
You think nijisisters who like driving ppl to suicide will actually off themselves? They are too narcissistic to do that.

>>73729099
>>73731056
Case in point

>>73727612
It wasn't tickets, it was merch they were talking about.

An an unbiased third party. Let's settle this thread with the hard numbers. The facts
>Anycolor earns more overall than cover
>Anycolor spends more on "operating costs" than cover
>Each cover talent brings in a little under 100 million yen more than each anycolor talent
>Cover has over 100 more employees despite having fewer talents
Just from these numbers alone we can see that anycolor is a skeleton crew designed with the intrinsic purpose of squeezing as much profit as possible with the least amount of investment and effort as possible. Cover spends quite a lot in it's revenue share with talents and employee salary,. However anycolor spends a LOT in vague "expenses" which could be outsourcing for things like 3D equipment or god knows what else. And despite everything. The gross profit between each company is fairly neck and neck. Honestly from a business perspective THERE IS no difference between the two companies.. They're both falling below expectations and failing

>>73727543
>>73727543
There where JP analyst anon, whose job is to predict stock trends. They were anticipating much higher growth than what Cover delivered - which is ridiculous. Most investors have no fucking clue what Cover does, and wants to achieve, they just look at numbers and trends, and invest based on that. Due to overly optimistic investors, Cover didn't meet the expectations. Their stock dropped a few percent, but it would have never dropped this bad if it wasn't for Anycolor's shock. In any case, the

>>73730938
I'm saying gura made over 1 million USD from the merch drop. Where are you getting 360$ from. Your ass?

>>73731006
Show us the proof
Show us this mystical magical cafeteria
We're waiting nijikeks.. what cafeteria are you fucktards even talking about???

>>73731417
it's probably not popular enough that no one knows about it

>>73731340
Surely you can find me some posts by these jp analysts right? (note: not analysts pointing out how it is currently dropping, but before or just right after the drop started, and not random faceless anons in a forum, but you know actual analysts that have a name attached to them)
Well, even if you can't do that for some reason, surely since you are saying "They were anticipating much higher growth" you can tell me what their growth expectations were right? Since we know for a fact what the exact expected growth of cover was and what their actual growth is, if you are saying they expected not just higher, but "much" higher, you know what the actual number is right? Otherwise it makes no sense you would say "much higher" if you have no clue what the number they expected actually is (and it might be a growth just 0.001% smaller than projected by these mysterious analysts)
Surely this isn't just speculation that you are randomly throwing out there, and you have something that supports what you are talking about

>>73725643
>I guess Holofes didn't do as well as they expected
Holofes went very well, but it has little relevance until Cover presents the numbers on their Q4 report in May.

Investors don't care about how well the companies they invest in treat their talents, only their financial results. The system is a sham.

>>73727765
1 word "nijisister" KEK

>>73729076
Jealousy? Why tf anyone Feeling jealous a failure??

>>73731582
Again the whole point of asking for proof is that a bunch of other jp stocks fell at the same time as cover (not even limited to vtubing companies so you can't even say that niji falling lead to cover stock falling), so it seems more likely to me that cover performed as expected and perhaps even better than investor predictions, but some outside event is making them take money out of stocks temporarily, and unless you have proof that these predictions exist (and not just random anons chattering away in anon forums) I'll go with occams razor on this one

>>73727725
>Anycolor sinking,but its a win because cover stock down too
nijisister with their 1 braincell LMAO

I love how all the posts of hololive mogging niji in superchats got completely ignored by the sisters in favor of more stock glucking. Really shows where their priorities lie (I mean this entire thread probably doesn't even HAVE any real sisters or holofans in it. Just trolls and dramafaggots but still)

Jannies usually delete stockthreads when the OP is nijistocks.. but for SOME reason this cancer of a thread is allowed to live when it's about holo stocks?. Real subtle jannie i see you

>>73731795
bro ofc nijisisters are here you can tell when they start shitting on selen out of nowhere

Cover: sell a limited amount of stock to allow initial investors to buy out. Stock is just a formality more than anything and the company is just doing business as usual.
Anycolor: The ceo owns more than 1/2 the stock and his net worth is intimately tied to the price. Entire company riding on the fate of the stock price.

If both stocks went to 0, Cover would be fine but Anycolor would dissolve.

>>73725643
It's over. Everyone abandon ship. Time to switch to phase.

>>73726757
Really, that is your big ups... Is really pitiful sis. HLZNTL is the branding under which their run tournaments and Esports events. They have no tournaments now, so they have need for it - the spring has Holofes, while the Summer is full of other events, so there is no need for it, they can do it in fall and winter, when they have less to do.
ReGloss is a very successful gen, that you clowns, are pretending is not, because you are pitiful bastards that are jerking off on how great Niji is when more than half of their roster is 3views, while ReGloss averaging 5-6k ccv, and mogging everyone else, except for HoloJP and HoloEN, is somehow a flop.

>>73726962
is this trolling or is someone really this stupid?

>>73731912
Neither would be fine if the stock went to 0, because that indicates the company is being restructured or liquidated and there are more debts than assets causing the shareholders to get wiped out.

>>73729076
>Are you just pretending to be retarded? Holoniggers are niggers who absolutely hate niji due to jealousy
sister,i'm sorry to tell you the harsh truth.holo is a fuckng full CGDCT idol,they dont give a single FUCK about niji LMAO,you nijinigger as a whole got fucked here because you are clowning yourself with anycolor make things worse everytime,no holo actually give a fuck about you lol,but well keep delusional and have holo rent free in your head.

>>73732042
Look at the grammar, its some brown nijimonkey.

>>73726799
you tell me

Remember this the next time you say nijisanji mogged hololive in any regard
>Inb4 BOT COPE

>>73729076
Sorry but no thanks, no one wants niji's bad publicity

>>73732205
hopefully other companies can catch up and push niji down, we need more proper competition and not short term liver gacha companies

>>73730553
>https://dec.2chan.net/73/res/1548502.htm
Is a sponsorship event thou, not merch sold by Cover. So Cover get's royalties, something like 9% or a one time payment, and Gura get's a portion of that, not of the 2 million. And I don't think is anywhere close to 50%, because that's a thing for merch sold directly by Cover. Is going to be a negotiated amount, because that's how it goes for sponsorships, but is likely more in the single digit percents.

>>73732042
probably stupid. nijisisters consume too much slop they even think AR live is good when it's just gmod

>>73725643
>>73726962
>>73727218
>>73727557

>>73726138
>To them, anycolor and cover are the same company. If anycolor is getting fucked, cover must be too. It's a game of stats and charts, not actual people.
Some of us tried to warn the dramafags and board retards that by hurting AnyColor they were hurting Cover as well by destroying the delicate blaance in the status quo, but they were either making money off the drama or too stupid to understand how this works.

>>73730938
No, he is talking about the numbers that iPass themselves gave.

>>73725643
what they entered at?

>>73726267
anon. she gave birth and now takes care of the baby. give it some time.

>>73730938
So odd that "720$" is enough to make ipass say this

>>73732684
Someone almost died, you asshole. Should we just NOT hold Anycolor accountable for that?

>>73731385
Gura didn't make a million dollars from that merch, that is not how it works. iPass made 2 million dollars, not Cover. Cover got paid a licensing feed, which is waaaay under 1 million dollars, and maybe some royalties - 5-9% is the industry standard. Gura got paid a portion of that. At best, her share was into the tens of thousands of dollars. Like, if Cover was paid 200k for the license, she got like 20k dollars - or something like that. But it could also be much less, because this is a 3rd party merch sale, and Cover is licensing their IP, so Gura's share would be much closer to something a Niji talent would get, than 50%.

>>73732684
The problem is nijisanji got hurt where it counts and hololive DIDN'T. Hololive streams as usual. Gets events as usual. Is growing as usual
NijiEN. Most of the first 4 gens didn't stream for the majority of febuary and march. Elira JUST came back and Vox hasn't even returned yet tho he is set to. The CCV is down. The supas are down. Every stream elira and vox are in. Or any of the main channel streams. Get dislike bombed into oblivion. They are VISIBLY wounded

>>73733498
>nijisanji their audience is down
>audience is down
special company for special audience

>>73733618
oof

>>73731582
Is analyst such as Goldman Sachs my dude, and other brokers and companies who advise on stock. The analysts expected Cover to grow around the line of 79%, and it grew by little over 50%. Goldman Sachs also gave Anycolor a positive rating, and advised investors to buy a day prior to their Q3 report - and then it crashed by 21% the next day. So analysts to make mistakes, especially in industries they don't seem to understand very well.

>>73726079
the reality is vtubing is not that great of a business. not necessarily a reflection on the company so much as the business. And these companies have very high multiples relative to the quality of that business. As the market begins to realzize this, the multiple premium these companies get will decline and therefore their shareprice. It should be noted there is currently a disparity between Cover's and Anycolor's multiple, with cover having a better premium. But that also means Cover has more room to fall.

>>73733297
>so Gura's share would be much closer to something a Niji talent would get
nice joke sister KEK,enna,millie are /here/ you will make them cry if you say that because they aint getting anything close to that lol

>>73733843
Dude. Hololive members get 50% of the merch that is sold by Cover. This is a licensing deal, a 3rd party is selling the merch. Not even Cover get's 50% out of the sales, that's not how it works. The fact that Gura is even getting a share of it, is just Cover being a progressive as fuck company, because at the end of the day, she is in no way personally involved in this event, and is Cover's IP.

>>73729246
idiot sister...
yagoo sell cover share becauase hololive need good 3d studio, now they already have the studio...
why did they care about share price when they already build what they really need...?

>>73727966
sorry but this is what nijisisters sperg out
example: thinking that the word "Sisters" is a slur

>>73726079
trading bots

>>73725643
time to purge homostars. they only waste resources.

>>73725643
>Cover Corp entered the market at 1300
>Anycolor entered the market at 3200
>Cover Corp being above 1300 is a win
>Anycolor being below 3200 is a loss
>Cover Corp has repeatedly told investors to GTFO when asked to cut costs like talent revenue split and project funding to boost profits
>Anycolor gives their talents a 2% merch cut and has no managers
>Cover Corp spent 18 Million Dollars on a brand new 3D studio
>Nijisanji spent 18 Million Dollars on a stock buyback when it was at 3100 a share to boost it to 3800.. only to instantly lose all of it due to firing selen
Tell me who exactly is in shambles again?

>>73726786
>start at 1500
>is at 1975

>start at 2960
>is at 2312

Or does starting points mean nothing?

>>73734389
the fck? niji spent money to prop up their stocks?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>73734458
Yeah they pumped it up right at the end of January. It rose from 3100 to 3800... JUST before February 5th.. and we all know what happened then... They've gone from 3800 peak this year to 2300

>>73734389
Niji singlehandedly bullying one of its best EN talents and supporters of the company into quitting then calling her Negligible only for the fallout to completely wipe out the millions they wasted on the stock buyback instead of reinvesting in the talents was incredible

>>73732684
I don't give a shit about any of that, so you can shove your "warning" up your ass.