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Seriously why don't the girls help out the struggling Stars becoming more popular?
Isn't that a good thing for Hololive as a whole if everyone in the company could get a popularity boost? Cover would just get even bigger in Japan and in the West and they would also be able to build a even more studios for everyone since the studio the boys are using is just the Hololive studio that they share together. Also that would make Cover able to compete with Anycolor in the male vtuber market since it's their field (like how Toya got 200k during Christmas eve last year).
But that was pretty much impossible for now because the JP girls kept ostracising them to the point they became the black sheeps of Hololive for the rest of the fandom and that's mostly because the most popular holos snub them when they debuted. Just imagine how popular Hololive would be now if someone like Marine helped them success by including someone like Roberu in one of her collab or if they had a collab song together, with Holostars Cover could extend their influence in the vtubing market and therefore become even more popular. Though that wasn't possible because cunts like her have an inexplicable hatred for the Holostars just because they don't want two retards in her chat to leave them. And I'm not even talking about Kanata who I understand why she doesn't collab with males since she wants to keep that pure virgin image. But Marine, Noel or Pekora literally collabed with a weird hypnotist but nobody cared about it so that just proves they could successfully collab with Holostars without losing unicorn fans since they have none in the first place.
And honestly a Roberu x Pekora collab would be pretty kino, both are born comedians and Pekora could finally help her brother and thus it will make popular as a whole, they really just need a little push to become able to compete with the most popular niji males. Aruran x Marine or Tenma x Noel would be funny as well since they have a lot in common already.
To this day I'm still wondering why it never happened.

>> No.73036816

>>73036788
not reading all that

>> No.73037210

Because it's not their job.

>> No.73037277

>>73036788
Link you faggot ass reddit post retard.

>> No.73037424

>>73037210
this, the risk of getting the unicorns mad, and the fact that the only fun holostar is roberu

no guy is gonna start watching stars because they collabed with their oshi, they gotta build their own cringe woman fanbase

>> No.73037541

>>73036788
Hololive is successful BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LIKE NIJISANJI. They would never succeed if they just copy them.

>> No.73037622

>>73036788
This is streaming. It's male dominated.
They should graduate all male vtubers that get less numbers than Pekora

>> No.73037642

>>73036788
First I’m not reading all that, second i don’t want homos near the girls, they aren’t part of holo for a reason, homos would just debuff and ruin them, and i say this even tho sometimes i watch homos

>> No.73037735

>>73037622
this but unironically

>> No.73038100

I know this is bait but for for actual beggers the guys probobly hate them. Maybe thers some that wish a holo would help them but with the rise of roberu finding his thing and astel building fans with apex id assume they want to build themselves up. Like their senpais did. They are proof the hard work pays off.

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73038145

DIE

>> No.73038187

>Aruran x Marine or Tenma x Noel would be funny as well since they have a lot in common already.
>Tenma x Noel
>Tenma

>> No.73038251

I don’t watch big corpos, if I watch males they’re probably indies

>> No.73038336

>>73038251
anti corpo keks are poor so you don't even matter

>> No.73038540

>>73036788
Male idols are a deadend for your male-dominant audiences.
You'd need actual bro streamers, not yumebaits masquerading as such.

>> No.73038956

male vtubers should only collab with other males and do solo streams if they cant find a collab partner. mixed gender collabing sucks and can alienate your fans.

>> No.73039030

>>73038336
I’m not anti corpo, theres just very few small corpos that actually have males, so if I’m watching males I would generally pick indies

>> No.73039895

>>73036788
Remind me how many days has Vox been on a hiatus?

>> No.73040342

>>73036788
Separate branches and they are in no way obligated to offer support or help prop up those failures. They've leeched off of the girls for so many fucking years, even drained resources that would be put to better use on the girls, for absolutely fucking nothing. They haven't inclined or become more popular despite the company trying their hardest to shill them and prop them up. If anything, interest in them is waning. They're a waste of space, time and resources. That's a simple fact.
You have your homo collabers already. Leave the ones who don't want anything to do with homos alone as they have nothing to gain by interacting with those failures.

>> No.73040598

>>73036788
>Seriously why don't the girls help out the struggling Stars becoming more popular?
It's impossible to help them. Multiple HoloJP members have tried for years and some still do it to this day. Ame, Kronii, and Calliope also tried. The result is always the same: no meaningful growth ever comes from those collabs, and the girls always end up on the losing side. You can look at almost any past Hololive event/3D live and see that they had 10-20x more viewers than identical Holostars events, which means that only around 5-10% of total Holopro fanbase is at least mildly interested in Holostars. Maybe the percentage is a little bit higher for HoloEN-StarsEN, but it's still not worth it.
At the end of the day, it's all business, and barely anyone wants to lose a good chunk of their viewers/income and hamper their future growth just so they could have one collab with men every month. There are exceptions (e.g., Matsuri and La+), but those exceptions only exist because those women never cared about maximizing their profit and instead valued "freedom" to do whatever the fuck they want, which includes collabs with men.

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73040745

When will you anons learn to stop biting the most obvious baits possible?

>> No.73041309

>>73040745
It's a slow day.

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73042010

>>73036788
>Seriously why don't the girls help out the struggling Stars becoming more popular?
>Just imagine how popular Hololive would be now if someone like Marine helped them success by including someone like Roberu in one of her collab or if they had a collab song together
literally begging ewww, why beggars have no fucking shame?

>> No.73042639

>>73041309
The 18 Irys threads aren't doing it for you?

>> No.73044671

>>73042010
mindbroken

>> No.73044833

>>73036788
>seriously
i doubt it

>> No.73046129

>>73036788
>Seriously why don't the girls help out the struggling Stars becoming more popular?
Look at what happened when Mori, Kronii, vesper and magni collabed.
The first few collabs had good numbers. Then they fell off hard. Mori and Kronii's solo numbers fell off hard too and they've been running damage control ever since. Magni and vesper's numbers weren't affected.
It's career suicide to do so and doesn't and doesn't help the homos at all.

>> No.73046224

>>73036788
Obvious bait post but relying on collabs doesn't mean people will stick to watching them. Ao and Sora with Aruran had around 8k ccv, which is basically Ao's and Sora's numbers combined and he had no boost after that. I do wonder why specifically Holostars aren't successful though, Nijisanji and a bunch of other indies have pretty high numbers.

>> No.73046690
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73046690

holostars in nutshell.

>> No.73047371

>>73046224
Fanbase tribalism. Fujos and yumejos who were already fans of Niji considered Cover the enemy, so Holostars was dead on arrival. Most women who get into vtubers will do so through the most popular male vtubers (so Niji again) and won't give Stars a chance.

>> No.73048425

>>73046224
As the other anon said, it's mainly tribalism. And because simply their potential audience isn't that big, the majority of the target demographic has already been covered by niji. They do have some obsessive fans, but nowhere near at that level. And it isn't because there aren't enough female vtuber fans, I know plenty. The problem is that they aren't against watching girls in the same way most men prefer to avoid watching men, consequently they just have girls as their oshis. It's not even out of lesbianism or any sort of attraction, watching girls having fun is simply entertaining to other girls too, and they also view them as some sort of inspiration and actual idol who they strive to become. I've met many girls who love hololive, and though some of them did mention holostars, I don't know a single one who's actually invested in them, while I've seen loads of Marine/Laplus/Bae and recently Raden fans.

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73049595

>>73046690
saved

>> No.73049601

>>73036788
>Orange woman bait threads drowned in KFP cum after Chimera skirt reveal
>Makes hundredth holohomo bait thread, most of replies are sisters larping as unicorns because even tourist moved on

If your cunt itches from mom's mayo this much, then not even your sexpests will look at it

>> No.73050121

>>73046690
When was the last time any of them interacted aside from Kobo?

>> No.73051553

>>73036788

>> No.73052315
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73052315

>>73050121
roberu is the mouthpiece of holostars.

>> No.73054282

>>73036788

>> No.73054606
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73054606

>>73036788
>Using roberu in the image
Roberu is already closer to hololive rather than holostars though?

>> No.73054636

>>73036788
You have to be 18 to post in this site.

>> No.73056669

>>73054606
While this bait thread is going, anon, mind explaining to a tard what does each line represents again? Thank you.

>> No.73057141

>>73054606
hmmmm

>> No.73057731

>>73036788
yeah, pekora should stream every day with homostars to transfer her viewers to them, i'm sure it will work.

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73058890

>>73036788
Seriously why don't the nijisisters put more effort into their falseflags?

>> No.73060831

>>73052315
kek

>> No.73061151

>>73058890
Ye know, speaking of KRSJ, they're the reason this blasted mindset came to be in the first place. Ye know why? One word: Raito!

>> No.73062303

>>73036788
Because they have cooties

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73063256

robel the beggar.

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73063396

>>73036788

>> No.73066844
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73066844

>>73036788
Why dont homobeggar like you just post on reddit??
Oh wait…..

>> No.73066991

>>73036788
KEK

>> No.73067067

>>73036788
>Homobeggar cant post on reddit anymore
> post here instead
KEK

>> No.73067505

>>73036788
>leeching the girl for 3 years but still never get better
>now they try to pull Ririka down too
Why homobeggars are so fucking scum

>> No.73068075

I’ve seen this argument so many times from you homobeggars and every single one of you come in with the premise that the girls WANT to do any of this. You completely dismiss the idea that the majority of them are completely indifferent at best to the existence of Holostars. If they wanted to they absolutely would be pushing the stars more. They have zero obligation to do so and quite frankly I’m pretty sure they have their hands full with their own shit. The Stars have the backing of a billion dollar corpo why the fuck should they get even more support on top of that? You come into a female dominated industry and are shocked that it’s going to be a fucking uphill battle your whole career to gain even an ounce of relevancy? HOW SHOCKING!

Here’s a thought: if any of the stars were worth the trouble they’d have become as popular as you want them to be a long time ago. You seem to think the world owes them attention because they’re backed by Hololive. Newsflash buddy: either become so entertaining that you overcome the issues I just outlined or stay irrelevant. They’ve gotten more than enough handouts from the girls and cover. Kronii and Calli did their goddamn best to help them and what did they do with that help? Oh right the two main ones fucked off soon after. Good fucking riddance as well to them.

>> No.73071745

OP is ghey

>> No.73071989

women can't even help themselves

>> No.73078315

>>73046129
I wonder why certain talents like Fubuki are immune to this. She occasionally does the same and she's always been fine.

>> No.73078413

>>73036788
what is this, twitlonger?

>> No.73079372

>>73078315
They arent. They just didnt antagonize their fans and, understands that its not just unicorns that dont like male collabs

>> No.73079533

>>73079372
The collabs are also rare and part of some sort of event

>> No.73080844

>>73036788
Why?
Even if we completely disregard the "it'll piss off the unicorns" aspect, the guys in both branches are pretty content to just keep doing their own things, and are making enough to keep doing so

>> No.73082954

>>73066844
Impressive

>> No.73083135

>>73054606 (me)
>>73056669
It's the fanbase overlap, most of Roberu's viewers are not subscribed to other holostars members but are subscribed to all the Hololive members, meaning HoloStars fans don't watch Roberu, but hololive fans do

>> No.73085200

>>73068075
Nta but you sound so fucking unhinged holy shit

>> No.73085418

>>73036788
Don't use my son to shitpost, sister

>> No.73085947
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73085947

>this place has shitposts that are so lazy they are using cropped ancient Towaposts
the absolute state of this board

>> No.73086278

as demonstrated perfectly with StarsEN, trying to force Hololive and Holostars together only results in a net loss of viewers, streamers engagement and general goodwill

you can't seemlessly transfer your CGDCT audience to watch le unhinged gay men
you can talk about unicorns all you want but the truth is a good portion of people who like girl vtubers don't like male vtubers and viceversa

if Holostars want to be succesful they need to develope their own audience, like the clown guy is doing

>> No.73086723

>>73085947
Towa...

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73087152

>>73036788
Even if every Hololive member explicitly told their viewers to go watch Holostars, they still wouldn't gain any new viewers
When Cover forced every Holo to stop streaming so that Uproar's 3D debut was the only Cover affiliated stream happening at the time, it STILL didn't make any Hololive fans watch Holostars

>> No.73087449

>>73078315
anon, fbk used to be the most popular holo.

>> No.73088968

Meidos you nigger faggots do your fucking job

>> No.73089904

>>73036788
First not reading all that, second kill yourself, third OP is a faggot and fourth, female chuuba watchers and male chuuba watchers are separate fanbases with separate expectations and values. Mixing them only results in conflict.
People who watch both are competitive FPS enjoyers.

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73090457

>>73058890
V2

>> No.73090821

>>73038540
everyone says that the tempiss faggots are bros when every single one of them is just a carbon copy twitch streamer

>> No.73090823

>>73037622
SPBP

>> No.73092145

>>73090457
>>73058890
>its actually the nijisisters acting like they were the unicorns
No, they aren't, and this discord falseflag is getting out of hand. Do you really think they're dumb enough to post
>our tactics getting leaked from this exact place, so let's do X and X from now on
in the same thread? No, anon, this is your lazy ass falseflag you orchestrated on discord with your tranny friends, stop spreading that shit.

>> No.73092223

>>73037622
But that's all of them!

>> No.73092226

>>73092145
Cope and Dilate

>> No.73092273

>>73092226
You're getting lazy sister, your tribe needs to come up with something more believable.

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73092922

>>73092273
>sister

>> No.73093797

>Another Holo Bait thread
Ok what stupid shit kurosanji or a nijinigg did this time?

>> No.73094967

>>73036788

>> No.73095132

>>73036788
Because there's no unity. Is everyone for themselves don't believe me? Look at gura overlapping the newest branch then disappearing once the hype died down.

>> No.73095155

>>73090457
>We need to be pro homo to btfo the nijisisters!
I always laugh when I see this, who is stupid enough to defend homos out of sheer contrarianism?

>> No.73095325

>"Why yes I will bump this thread because I canno't think of nothing but other men, specially when they fuck my Oshi"

>> No.73099332

>>73095325
yes.

>> No.73102536

>>73036788

>> No.73102695

>>73102536
Eat shit nigger

>> No.73102750

>>73102695
mad?

>> No.73102941

>>73095155
>who is stupid enough to defend homos out of sheer contrarianism?
/vt/

>> No.73103047

>>73036788
I'm not reading that, but no, they shouldn't. Hololive is popular because the girls and guys are separated

>> No.73104695

>>73092145
Proof?

>> No.73104832

>>73093797
According to rrats Iluna will lose 3 members.
>3 members of Iluna are ready for graduation. Aia hinted it on her PL, Scarle unprivated her PL twitter account and Ren is doomposting on his PL twitter.

>> No.73107221

Stop bumping this thread, should have died at 10 replies.

>> No.73107268

>>73102941
/vt/ will soon start watching homos just to spite nijisanji kek

>> No.73107795

>>73107268
we are not watching anyones homos, being that from any indie or corpo, we dont want to see them in any capacity way or form, they can do what they want but never come near hololive.

>> No.73110983

>>73063396
lol

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