/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72944936
this is the official laugh at lucucks thread

From Raziel herself earlier today. 3 separate people made 3 separate signature stamps for merch yet its been advertised that Luca signed it himself. Smells like fraud to me.

>>72945049
Raziel's sig looks the cutest
Bottom one looks like a butchered fucking mess done in 2 seconds.

>>72945011
Them AND Nijisisters still not getting the fact that they're getting scammed for something that was supposed to have been signed by their oshi but is being false advertised. Makes you think about the authenticity of other Livers' merch too.

The cope

>>72945134
Lmao I actually bought hers through a proxy site so who's really getting scammed out of money now! Hers is the cutest out of them all so I'm not even mad since my money didn't even go to Niji.

>>72945199
so they've gone from
>IT'S NOT REAL
to
>IT'S REAL BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT BAD

>>72945199
"It'S sTiLl LuCa'S sIgNaTuRe." The absolute copium with this bs lmao

Someone posted this on Twitter too! I'm guessing management makes the first stamp for their first birthday and then the following year the Livers(?) design the one for the next set.

The cope lol

>>72945711
Do they really think that heart looks similar? The lines look like shit compared to the other 2

>>72945483
That retard cannot even write using cursive

>>72945049
>>72945134
I can see bottom one actually being by Luca because it looks very shaky so it's definitely someone mimicking the signature.

>>72945865
Is there even anything that he CAN do on his own? This guy is a literal man baby

>>72945711
>NDF general post

>>72945711
Oh that Nijisister is notorious for supporting the Livers but absolutely against any support for those who graduated/terminated so I'm not surprised to see them try to make an argument

>>72945924
He probably was thinking, "Oh shit if I don't get this signature right they really are gonna can me fr fr" while making it lol

>>72945711
I love the "calligraphy expert " who is demonstrably wrong

>>72945199
>Luca is just a character
People need to be making a bigger deal out of this because THIS attitude is exactly what is wrong with nijifsisters and explains a lot of their behavior, They DON'T CARE about the person behind the avatar, They only care about the character because it is in nijisanji, Their true Oshi Company, It's why sisters (both en and jp) Harass and dox and threaten and anti Ex-Niji members, They outright HATE that the person behind the model finds success after leaving, Because how DARE they betray "The Family", Let's give a hypothetical scenario, Let's say vox DID actually "graduate in solidarity" with selen and fully took her side instead of doing that black box shit, I Guarantee you a LARGE proportion of kindred would fucking lose their minds and start hardcore Anti-ing him for the "betrayal", See how they treat Luca's insane yabs or Hex's goldfish/ashes jokes vs hyperfixating on zaion's fucking rape joke. They are FULLY ready and willing to throw literally anyone under the bus if they leave, Selen was the BIGGEST fucking niji shill and defender of their behavior while in the company but after she gets fucked over and leaves suddenly she is literally their worst fucking enemy, The person who basically MADE their fucking branch, AND the only Ex-Niji apart from U-San to not shit on niji or talk about how "horrible" the experience was (when hers was probably the absolute worst experience of them all as an aside), Yet they hyperfixate on anti-ing her and her fanbase out of spite and jealousy and pure rage, "How DARE she find success outside of niji?? Doesn't she know she is LITERALLY NOTHING without them?.. don't ALL of them know that???" That is literally their mindset and the exact reason why they are fucking sub-human bugs and the bottom of the barrel in the vtuber community

>>72945711
>It's the exact same signature
kek lucubs might be the dumbest vtuber fan base in existence. Even Kindreds would be complaining if Vox scammed them like this with merch.

>>72946367
Ah yes caring about vtubers playing a character is just a Nijisister staple

>>72946480
Way to not understand what was said, I'm saying the nijisisters only care because they are in niji, and will defend any number of grotesque behavior based on that fact alone, And if they ever leave it is a full on "Betrayal" and warrants constant harassment and Anti-ing of them and the fans that left with them in retribution, Sure some aspects of "Only cares while they're in the company" can apply to holos too, But atleast holofans aren't out there fucking doxxing and harassing and shitposting about sana 24-7

So did lucy actuallly exist or was it her everytime luca did the girl voice?

>>72946658
That was just Luca. There's a non-zero chance he secretly wants to be a woman.

>>72946367
You just hit the nail on the head of Nijisisters' coffin. Yes all of it is exactly what is wrong with them.

>>72946699
Wouldn't surprise me if his mom wanted a girl and this is just his way to cope.

Why are they like this?

>>72947058
Mental illness

All the more funnier it'll be once this guy gets terminated after Q4 and they fall into a deep state of despair. Serves them right for harassing and doxxing ppl.

>>72944936
Lucubs should just start oshing raziel at this point

>>72949023
They already have! They can't stop talking about her on Twitter and the doxx site lmao

>>72945049
Honestly, you're a schizo that has never tried to sign a signature. They're never the same.

>>72944936

>>72949085
You don’t change stylistically to the point of being only remotely recognizable unless you are actively trying to alter your signature. Even when the latter is true, you still have tells unless you’ve done it for a long time, likely years.

>>72949023
You joke about that but they did in the past. They shilled her in /nijien/ when Luxiem debuted and got mad when everyone else told them it was off topic.

>>72944936
>Time to burn his merch
I don't have any Luca merch to burn since I was never a fan of him to begin with.

>>72945199
What a bunch of delusional loser.

>>72947058
>PRETTY PRETTY PRETTY
These retarded cultists wouldn't know what that word actually means even if it punches them in their disgusting faces.

>>72949448
Crabs gonna crab.

>>72945978
Be a sexpest. That one is all on him.

>>72945199
You faggots will never make an actual argument. If the managers make premade signatures for the members before they even debut, the person behind the member has nothing to do with it. Lucubs don't care about the actual signature, they just want a piece of memorabilia. Do you think people who ask for celebrity signatures give a shit about the integrity of it and whether they thought of the signature themselves?

>>72950141
It’s what the signature represents here, given that it shows more credence to Raziel not outright lying, as Lucubs (and probably (You), too) have claimed she was/is. The end result being that there’s now many more questions to ask, but Lucubs would rather plug their ears and cover their eyes.

>>72950141
Unlike you some of us actually value our oshis' signatures and messages on merch because it is seen that they genuinely care and want to thank their fans. Same with fans of celebrities. God stop pissing in your own damn cereal

>>72949085
It's not signing a document in the moment.
If you have weeks to get a four-letter-signature looking just like it's supposed to, it's very possible.

>>72950496
Not only do they don't want to admit their oshi was actually Raziel instead they also don't want to admit that they're terrible people who blatantly bullied not just her but other Livers, Nijifans, and outsiders. If you check the doxx site they're even attacking other lucubs who are just asking questions and trying to start civilized conversations. Literally tearing themselves from the inside out.

>>72949085
Are you retarded? Sure a signature is never exactly the same but the top two are almost the exact same while the bottom one looks completely different

>>72949085
Pucker up for raziel sis >>72949135

>>72950141
>Do you think people who ask for celebrity signatures give a shit about the integrity of it and whether they thought of the signature themselves?

Even celebrity fans care about the actual celebrity themselves as opposed what agency they work with unlike like you, sister.

>>72950496
No one claimed she was lying, everyone just claimed she was a spiteful menhera which is just true. There are no questions to be raised because most of it is just personal information about Luca and other members no one asked for. Anything to do with management is shit people already knew

>>72950596
So are you type of person to be upset that an author didn't manually sign 2,000 books or that a celebrity didn't think of their signature on their own? Are you gonna break down in tears if you find out your oshi didn't write her own scripts?

>>72952287
The guy didn't even trace it himself you fucking retard. Couldn't even do the bare minimum for his fans.

>>72952409
Who cares who traced it? It's already not authentic, it doesn't matter. It's like a drug lord being concerned with the immorality of jaywalking. The point is for it to be memorabilia for fans, no one gives a shit about it being authentic

>>72952564
Ok so you are retarded. Seems you're also forgetting how people were praising his handwriting that wasn't even his.

>>72952629
I got your back anon. Lo and behold! Lucubs praising their "oshi's" handwriting and signature in 4k lol

>>72950141
>Who cares I got scammed this is how it works so I’m happy
This reminds me of the cuck-bike comic. Perfect analogy.

>>72952287
Obviously you're not aware of live book signings and meet and greets at conventions especially cosplay ones where invited guests actually sign their fans memorabilia. Instead of touching grass how about you go take a history class?

>>72952564
Clearly you don't but real fans whether they're new, young, old, or veteran actually do and holds meaning to them.

>>72952176
There ARE ppl claiming that she's still lying dipshit. And it just goes to show how much of a lying bastard Luca really is.

There is no difference between these signatures and this one.

Realtalk though why is Luca so lazy and stupid?

>>72953225
How is it a scam if no one actually gives a fuck about the authenticity of the signature? WWE isn't real and no one cares that it isn't
>>72953634
And not a single person who gets their shit signed there is concerned with how authentic their signature is or if they thought of it themselves. It's about someone you like signing your shit

>>72953798
Dramafags are now going to rrat and say Luca brought Raziel to Japan with him and hid her in his hotel room. The cope will be glorious

>>72953798
Eternally seething

>ITT: Retarded schizos cosplay handwriting experts

>>72953130
Kek this cant be real

>>72953130
nijisister got KEKED LMAO

>>72947058
Two words: Hive Mind. If I were Luca I'd be disgusted and creeped out at how much they're mindlessly raving about him online.

>>72954456
>>72954513
>>72954546
>All replying to same post
>Bump from page 8
Raziel, he's not going to fuck you. You seriously need to call your husband. We have filed a missing persons report.

>>72954609
cry more lucuck

>>72953882
>>>72953225
>How is it a scam if no one actually gives a fuck about the authenticity of the signature? WWE isn't real and no one cares that it isn't
>>>72953634 (You)
>And not a single person who gets their shit signed there is concerned with how authentic their signature is or if they thought of it themselves. It's about someone you like signing your shit

.....my dude said person is literally RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU signing it. There's literally no need to question the authenticity of it when it's actually coming from said person in front on you. That's just fucking stupid. And once again REAL FANS who actually care do give a shit about not getting scammed. Also WWE doesn't advertise as being REAL they even admit it's scripted.

>>72954648
Raziel, please. We miss you. Why are you doing this over some anime boy?

>>72945711
>kaneshiro dhdhd
is she having a stroke? why does she type like this?

>>72946228
>Obese 4chan user thinks he's smarter than an expert
Cope

>>72955093
>random xitter NDF
>"""expert"""
KEKADOODLEDOO

>>72946228
who happens to be a flip

>>72953798
This, and the 2024 merch, is his actual work. Luca's signature drags the tail of the L in a straight line, all the way to the a, with no connection. Manager-san's drags it in a curve, connecting it, and Raziel's curves but doesn't connect.
It's also Luca's because he curves the the last line in his N's.

>>72955217
>Calls person an expert
>Hurr day aren't expert anymore
>Me am duh expert now
Good job sister. I feel a lot safer now that you're on the case.

>>72954609
That's funny how you keep assuming it's Raz as a way to cope with how people are poking holes in your argument. If anything Luca himself is more likely to be here whether he's back at home or still fleeing out of the country.

>>72955429
>ESL can't parse quotation marks
KEEEEEEKAAAAROOOOOO

>>72955503
>Poking holes in your argument
Ah yes, playing hand writing experts. You got me. Raziel, you've been pushing this shit for 2 weeks. Fuck off already.

>>72955534
>ESL can't see that his mockery is hypocritical and makes his own opinions look foolish
Good one subhuman.

>>72950141
dude, some people get paid to check the authenticity of celebrity signatures. stop drawing false equivalences and just say you don't care that your oshi lacks integrity

lucucks still seething kek

>>72955700
>Fills catalog up with this shit for 2 weeks
Fuck off already faggot. Why do you care so much homo? You like Luca? You feel betrayed you bought his fake signature? Faggot.

>>72953130
always puts a smile on my face

>>72952287
>an author didn't manually sign 2,000 books
But they do???
Brandon Sanderson literally signs his books while doing his podcast kek

>>72955806
LUKEK CAN'T HANDLE BEING IN THE KEK CHAIR AHAHAHAHAHAH >>72949135

>>72954855
See? Lucuks really do love Raziel. They claim they hate her but in reality they love her more so than Luca himself. Bet you they have their own discord and bible dedicated to her too.

>>72955865
Kekekekek. This guy wants to suck Lucas dick. Can't stop thinking about Luca. Post about Luca 24/7. Bought fake Luca merch. What a homo. Ahahaha. Homo. Faggot.

>>72955904
Hate is also a form of love

>>72955637
Dude they're all her signatures. The M is an abbreviated signature cause she tweeted when Shinigami Note was coming out that she signed so many her hand was cramping hard. The girl is dedicated to her fanbase unlike other streamers.

Lucubs in the top 10 most cucked fanbases

>>72955540
How about love fucking you instead? Or would you prefer hate fucking since you're so passionate here.

>>72955637
>Suddenly holo
everytime

>>72955934
Sisterchama... Your projections...

>>72946367
You might be on to something there but for the love of god, learn to use proper punctuation. I can't read that shit

>>72955540
Why are Lucuks so obsessed with hating Raziel?She is technically their oshi

>>72957606
They don't want to admit they were really in love with another woman all this time, anon. The sexual confusion they're experiencing right now must be strong

>>72954784
And who's confirming whether or not they thought of the signature themselves? No one is because no one cares. Luca obviously is able to write the signature so why the fuck does it matter? This "MUH REAL FAN" cope is stupid as fuck. A fan is a fan, someone who doesn't give a fuck about authentic signatures is still a fan.
>WWE doesn't advertise as being REAL
Disgusting dramafag doesn't even know what kayfabe is

>>72955859
>Look at my single example of someone willingly fucking up their hands signing books for hours
Congrats, you found the exception to the rule. The majority of authors don't actually sign all the books manually, it's printed onto the book. No one is going to sit and sign 2,000 books if they can just do that

>>72958825
Hi Luca

>>72958971
So you admit there are people who actually sit down and sign their shit. Good. You're making progress anon

>>72958825
Naw that ain't Luca he don't know shit about WWE. Probably a lucuk who's going through the 5 stages of grief and is stuck between denial and anger

>>72958825
Signatures operate on good faith; having evidence to the lack of truth is akin to a breaking of that trust. Had the shoe been on another foot, say in another company, there’d never be an end to the spamming. It just so happens that his fans are actual yumes, incapable of seeing how the reality of this situation because they live inside their dreams.

>>72959459
Yes, people that like cramping their hands and wasting their time so actually sign everything manually instead of doing what everyone else does. What next? Are you gonna say that everyone should go and cut down a tree for firewood because that's more authentic than turning on the heat?

>>72959548
And said yumes' dream is breaking like a house made entirely of glass. Time to wake up and accept the cold hard reality that you all have been lied to and scammed of your money by someone who you blindly placed your faith in only to look in the mirror all dolled up like the clowns that you are.

>>72959578
And those type of people who commit are a special breed that people admire instead of some common lazy ass who relies on tech to make ends meet. Might as well use AI technology while you're at it and claim that it's "real art" to actual artists.

>>72959578
I know that accepting the fact that your oshi couldnt even be arsed to write a small message to his fans is hard but you need to accept reality Lucuck

>>72959578
You can’t fathom someone else actually doing any type of meticulous work because you’d rather not be inconvenienced?

>>72959578
Next time he should use AI, their fans would actually buy it. Absolute Lucucks thinking being scammed is a badge of honor XD.

This lucuck cope is pretty funny when actual celebs hand sign shit all the time and any second hand merch ia checked for authenticity before it's resold at high prices.

>>72959858
But he did write the message, he just didn't handwrite it
>>72959860
Would you sit and sign 30,000 different books when you can just print the original on every book? No one gives a shit about the handwriting or how authentic a signature is. You're the type of faggot to not want to drive anywhere because walking is more authentic

This shit has me scared because I can't write and no one besides me and my higher ups know. Someone else does the writing on my merch. Do you really care if we're not writing it?

>>72961519
I would care, yeah. Just do your best to not get caught and you’ll probably be fine. Main reason Luca’s catching flak is that Raziel revealed how he didn’t give two shits about autographs or fan messages, forcing it onto her instead.

Cover flew Gura to Taipei for her to sign her displays. What a waste of money, right?
Of course, Nijisanji doesn't care about authenticity, they started with a fake from a manager. As long as the fans buy it, who gives a shit that the signature is from someone that Luca fucked. So when you stick it up your twat, know that it's not Luca but Raziel. Maybe can imagine what she felt?

>>72961519
dysgraphic-chama...

>>72961519
Forging a signature is a crime. Selling a forged signature as genuine, doubly so. Your higher ups are retarded if they are knowingly abetting your criminal activity,

>>72945220
>buying luca merch at all
This isn't the own you think it is, sister.

>>72957606
this whole thing is so good. Nijisanji existing was worth it just for this lmao

>>72961185
you know you're not fooling anyone besides yourself right?

>>72963622
Well it's good thing Luca's actual signature he uses on documentation isn't actually "Luca" , you fucking retard. Wait until you find out wrestlers don't use their legal name when signing shit

>>72964604
>The trannies of /vt/ don't believe you!
Oh no! Whatever will I do! Your opinion matters so much to me. Kek it's just funny to see how retarded you cucks are. Your logic just confirms you're not above the age of 18

>>72950141
What kind of logic is this supposed to be? One that's been made by a total cuck?

>>72961519
>I can't write
What do you mean by this? Like, do you have some kind of disability that makes it physically impossible to handwrite shit? If so I imagine your fans would forgive you, as long as you can make it clear that the messages themselves are your own words.
Also, if you can use a mouse without issues, it might be worth learning to write coherently with one.

>>72965100
Do you feel cucked when you find out your Mexican food wasn't made by a Mexican? If you do, you're constantly being cucked by everyone

>>72957681
Why do they reject yuri? It's so cruel and heartless.

>>72965283
Exactly the kind of retarded analogy I expect a total cuck to make.

>>72963622
>crime
Good thing a fictional character is not a real person. It's Luca not the dude behind it. Go ahead and sue, it won't go anywheren4kg4

>>72965734
What is this delusional cope? Lucucks are truly pathetic creatures.

>>72965734
Nah, misrepresenting a product is fraud

>>72945147
If they never saw the light after pic related they never will. Literal corpo cult drones.

>>72963622
>>72965734
It's the actor behind the character whose signature they are implying you are getting, and since that isn't what you get, that's clear cut fraud. What matters, legally, is whether the signature is genuine or forged by someone besides the actor, it doesn't much matter that it spells out his character's name or his own.

Luca has made AnyColor liable for fraud, both legally and ethically, which is more than any other talent has done to them thus far.

But, unless someone takes them to court over it, nothing will happen to him, because an executive owes him his career.

>>72944936
what the fuck is that vertical alignment

>>72944936