/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72764624
Awww somebody didn't get their widdle EN4?

But but they bought ads in japan that said talent freedom

I'm sure they're the good guys!

nigga did were you not around for February?

>>72764624
2nd worst

Oh look. Another unicorn pissbaby thread

vshojo really riled some niggas up didn't they kek

>>72764782
FPBP
not that vshojo is getting her either, but the holobeggar cope and seethe is great

>>72764782
The best part about Hololive is they grab up smaller talents and give them a shot at greatness tho. No one in EN was insanely successful in the Vtuber sphere before they joined and they all showed how good they could be given the right circumstances. I don't give a shit if Pomu joined or not.
Biboo was a literal who whom worked their ass off to make it through auditions.
Vshojo hires their friends after lying about open auditions.

>>72764886
oh look another homobeggar seething at imaginary enemies.

>>72764979
>holobeggar
There is no such thing, real holochads don't want her. You can't falseflag and then blame yourself you faggot.

>>72765060
>The best part about Hololive is they grab up smaller talents and give them a shot at greatness tho
this is the best thing about nijisanji too, the talents just have to go through black company hell for it. none of us would know about doki or mint without them, the only good thing vtuber corpos do is provide exposure

>>72764624
I'm eating mint chocolate chip ice cream and it's delicious.

>>72764624
>Nijisanji bullies people into suicide attempts
>But actually vshojo is worse because they have the audacity to stream on twitch

>>72765167
>real holochads
referring to yourself as *-chad rather than *-fag is about the gayest thing you can do, especially when it's to defend being a retarded companyfag drone

>>72765060
Holofan forgetting about Gura, lmao

>>72764624
You mean hololive

>>72765175
But the issue with Niji is they shotgun approach it. Hololive graduations are grand events and insanely popular. While later Niji waves are like pissing into a waterfall. There's a reason the golden members are thing, they got in before the oversaturation.

>>72765343
saying hololive is the worst vtuber company is like saying apple is the worst tech company

>>72765109
You're the one who made a temper tantrum thread

>>72765060
All of hololive's numbers come from Gura who had millions of subs. They would be literally nothing without having poached her fanbase.

>>72764624
They don't seem that bad, I genuinely don't get why they're pushed around as some "ultimate evil villian" corpo when none of it's members have complained about management.

You can not like the talents or overall theme they present themselves as, but that doesn't mean they're a bad corpo.

>>72765388
This analogy actually works very well, since they make good products that are hugely popular but fans of other products in the same category get unreasonably mad about them

>>72764624
i hate vshojo as much as the next guy, but they will never be worst as long Niji is still around

>>72765439
Hololive doesn't make good products though.

>>72765424
Tribalfags have no common sense, they only suck the dick of their chosen corpo who can do no wrong. All others are "the enemy"

>>72764624
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/VShojoBanner.f8dfb9dd.png/
Cool falseflag vhojoCHAD

>>72764624
it's the most SOVLFUL

>>72765388
So it's true?

>>72765424
I do think it's valid to complain about how they held auditions when they were obviously never going to accept anyone. It's fine to have a streamer group based around someone's friend circle but they shouldn't pretend it isn't that

>>72765524
That is first result in Google images

>>72765060
the holo girls are all mid at best and it shows, they just get big numbers because hololive fans, much like Apple fanatics, will consume anything with their favorite brand's logo stapled on it
natsumi moe is the perfect case study for this, everybody knew about her before she joined hololive yet her viewership dwindled down to literally 2view status over the years, until the blue dorito picked her up and now all of a sudden everybody watches her again

>>72765569
cry about it 2view

>>72764782
Holofags really are tsunderes for Pomu.

>>72765572
And? The posting pattern of the OP is obvious.

>>72765569
i agree, i like vshojo but that audition shit was so stupid looking back on it, if you want to get people who would fit right in with the group then just do that and yes i knpw people are going to say "but haruka" but come on she was already a hardcore zen orbiter

>>72765585
Cope

>>72765466
>>72765541
Thankyou for your valuable insight into how the most popular companies in their fields with the highest customer satisfaction are actually bad for unspecified reasons, anon(s)

>>72764624
This would be true if we assume there are only two major companies, but that would be stupid because Niji is huge in JP, and they're just as shitty in both branches.

>>72765439
>since they make good products that are hugely popular but fans of other products in the same category get unreasonably mad about them
and that it goes both ways, with hololive/apple fans getting unreasonably mad about people enjoying things outside of the hololive/apple walled garden

>"vtuber" company
>most of them don't even stream with a vtuber model

>>72765706
Hololive's customer satisfaction is artificial.

>>72765725
I have never actually seen this happen (outside of very obvious troll posts) though, just people complaining about it happening

>>72765674
it's pretty funny how many of them turned heel and basically admitted to "liking selen all along" when she went back to being doki

>>72765683
The auditions were in 2021. It's so old that it hardly matters anymore. Hololive also had some serious yabs a long time ago (Coco/Haachama, Aloe) but most people can realize they've changed for the better.

>>72764624
Only EOPs consider they "major", VSPO mogs them and even phasecucks are approaching.

>>72765761
>I have never actually seen this happen
then you're just new as fuck

>>72765388
>>72765439
So you're saying that all hololive vtubers are the same slop

>>72764979
If she had the opportunity to enter hololive she would immediately, it us that don't want her.

So when will the pomufags stop these begging threads. Us Holochads have already said we don't accept Holo rejects a long time ago. It time to move on.

>>72764624
No, that's still Kurosanji. Vshitjo isn't even close to being second, but they sure keep trying.

>>72765790
Selen was always liked, I don't know why anyone pretends otherwise. The only people who hated her were sisters who sniped at her for getting mildly menhera over Apex and a few literal retards who thought selenposters were her actual fans.

>>72765902
Nobody wants to join hololive in 2024.

>>72765903
>we don't accept Holo rejects
Fuwawa and Macoco applied 5 times before getting in.

>>72765409
Average chumbud. Before Gura debuted gen 3 already was a big success, now go suck some cock.

>>72765424
wow this is the first post I've seen in a while with pic related attached to it that isnt bait or something retarded

>>72765902
>If she had the opportunity to enter hololive she would immediately
yeah, someone who spent years fucked over by jap corpo autism would definitely want to jump right back into the same boat with a different logo. makes perfect sense

>>72765934
Yep Selen was always loved. Hololive fans like nothing more than a good collab with the holostars.

>>72764624
literally a second tier company made by second tier talent, it will never be nothing more than that.

>>72765964

>>72765569
That is a valid complaint. However, that's never what people complain about.

>nijiniggers
>phasecucks
>vshojofags
>indietards
HoloGODS really get hate from all sides just by being utterly superior in every single way.

>>72765964
Everyone wants to join hololive

>>72765790
The public majority was on the side of doki so any good grifters knew to pretend to being on her side.

>>72766202
Nope.

>>72765424
I think they're just a scapegoat for everything /vt/ doesn't like, as if it's their fault whorish /lig/s exist.
People always call them a whore corp but those opinions are mostly formed from clips of people who aren't even with the company anymore. Even Melody, the literal whore, isn't as crass as the common twitch indie.

>>72764782
YWNBAW you diseased freak
>>72764886
Silence homobeggar

>>72765900
>A human = slop
Great anon, show your hatred more towards humanity

>>72764624
shojo means girl in japanese, so why is there a dude in it?

>>72764979
She had the opportunity to join and pissed it away for a shitty indie career where she won't obtain her goals of being the world's strongest idol, something she had all of the potential in the world to. After all, she could have been EN Mito but better until Luca sexually harassed her in Nijisanji for years and ruined her confidence.

>>72765060
Most of the EN girls at this point have had like 50k to 200k in their previous stuff. They seem to just pick people who are already pretty successful. With some exceptions.

As long as Niji exists, no.

>>72765585
True. Mint would have made Hololive watchable again. Most of it sucks.

>>72766378
Hololive considers their vtubers products that are separate from the people playing them. They are all samey and their content doesn't very from one another in any considerable way.

>>72765900
Pretty much. I only like Hololive because it keeps its women in check. They're all mid tier or whores otherwise.
>>72765903
Fuck off. She had all of the potential to become the face of Hololive if she joined them.

>>72766352
>t. unicorn pissbaby

>>72766595
Hololive is all mid tier. All the good vtubers are indies.

>>72766378
Then hate Hololive then. Because there's no individuality whatsoever there. As bad as NijiEN turned out at least the CGDCT types were the canaries in that coal mine.

>>72766386
>knowing japanese
Only Henya knows japanese, the rest don't know anything above arigato

What did they even do? They even support Mint even tho she's not joining. Probably the only corpo that does this.

>>72764624
That’s still Nijisanji, though Vshojo might be trying to turn itself into Nijisanji at the moment.

>>72766199
>posted in a thread seething at Vshojo
I don't expect an ESL to see the irony

>>72766647
Say one
Fillian is an annoying zoomer and the rest is all whores.
Don't come with le small indie that does hiking videos, that's the equivalent of being a black and white movie snob.

>>72765388
apple is ok at tech, but products are shit as they spend most time to combat consumer freedom

>>72766738

>>72766580
Aw I thought you were gonna go on a tangent how you hate everyone, Here's mine then. Vtubers no matter how they say that they don't do gfe only exist all the same to take advantage of parasocialism and suck money from their audience.
No matter how they disguise themselves as anime using their vtuber models it can't hide the fact they're humans beneath with all the flaws that comes with it. Mortality, Selfishness, Greed and more.

>>72766864
>an annoying zoomer and the rest is all whores.
so biboo and the rest of holo?

Wouldn't be the first time a "future holoEN" spurned them

>>72766845
Yeah, that's the point, the thread always gets derailed to seethe at hololive. You can make a thread about a bear eating honey that they still somehow will turn that into a hololive anti competition.

>>72766026
Why would hololive fans care about someone outside of hololive collabing with the stars?

>>72766986
>EOP
Not surprising.

>>72767020
If they don't care about them how can they be "liked"?

>>72767012
bc only holoniggers are retarded enough to make these threads duh.

>>72766962
Who?

>>72765060
>The best part about Hololive is they grab up smaller talents and give them a shot at greatness tho
nigga what? Pretty much every vtuber corporation picks people with a decent following, you'd be fucking retarded not to.

>>72767194
Kson

>>72766386
>shojo means girl in japanese
It means "virgin".
Girl is "shoujo" or "shōjo".
AND they're mostly not even virgins!
It's funnier that way.

>>72767194
kinda pathetic pretending not to know

>>72766352
Do you just constantly have troons on the brain or something? Did Omega mindbreak you that badly that you can't stop fantasizing about them?

>>72767194
The Sonchler.

>>72767272
>virgin
>vtuber
>girl
kek

>>72767119
I liked her design and tits and I like doki’s design and smug smile

>>72767194
Holo Jesus. Died for their sins.

>>72766984
Everyone is greedy and I don't give a shit. I just want streams with varied content and hololive can't do that while their fans pretend like it's the greatest shit ever.

Vshojo is a group, not a company

SOUR.
GRAPES.

>>72764624
>"major"
>11 members

>>72765903
>Us Holochads have already said we don't accept Holo rejects a long time ago
These delulu Unikeks actually think they run the hiring operations, huh? It isn't your choice now, is it?

>Mint and will be part of a convention

>suddenly Doki is cancelled from participating in a convention


Nothing personal chink

>>72767534
>What is VShojo?
>We are a VTuber company based in San Francisco, CA.

>>72766999
Anyone got any golden Holobrony Sour Grapes moments from the time of Henya's debut?

did i miss some big news or something

>>72767813
>cancelled from participating
>literally says she missed the email

>>72768191
Pomu is joining vshojo and holobronies are having a melty after begging for her to join holoshite for almost 3 years.

>>72767709
So far no niji rejected got accepted, so yeah, apparently we run the hiring operations.

>>72767199
>being this fucking blind
Nigga...

>>72768255
>2
good for her, vshojo seems like a fun little group not as ramshackled by the autistic corpo rules like cover

>>72768255
History repeats itself

>>72767813
>because I saw the email too late
>surely this is because of everything vtubers do having a magical thinking ripple effect on all other vtubers

>>72768191
Mint just came back and will likely join Vshojo.

>>72768191
People think we wanted Luca's sloppy seconds somehow.

I think VShojo is ok

>>72767468
That's on the talent themselves, en side especially. they've gotten to spoiled by the high salary/merch sales/revenue they don't bother doing anything anymore. Which is why you'll see myth always taking breaks/vacations since they don't care about streaming, a bad example to make for their later gens.
JP side keeps upping their content quality despite earning more than they had before while en stayed the same. You can see it when comparing the ccv numbers between the two sides.

>>72768402
JP holos and vtubers in general are trash.

>>72768255
>holobronies
Anyone who gives a single shit about Pomu on hololive are eggs, and as far I remember they don't represent hololive as a whole.

>>72768474
They represent hololive as a whole because they're hololive fans, dumb brony.

>>72764624
They're a great company, but a lot of their talents are shit

>>72768293
I knew unicorns were retarded but whew Lad.

>>72768459
We understand, you have Mister Beast syndrome and needs something "new and exciting" every 2 seconds. I hope you get better or something, maybe buy a rope.

>>72764782
On the contrary. I want everyone who vehemently argued that Pomu is "hololive material" to apologize. I'm glad she's not in.

>>72768614
>Luna
Are you really going to count a hire from 2019?
Grim

>>72768687
Sour grapes, huh? Eveyone knows how you really feel, brony.

>>72768687
I'm sorry you have brain damage

>>72768754
Yes. Hololive wouldn't survive without poaching existing vtubers.

>>72764782
I hope Pomu joins all the companies then does a tier list based on her experience in each one. Now that's real content.

>>72765060
holofags unironically believe this because you can't talk about how popoular they all used to be

God damn what's wrong with bronies today? I just woke up. Like worst company? Nigga what? If you talk shit about talents then I don't really give a shit bc that's just mid-tier retarded, but vshojo probably is the only vtuber company that treats their talents fairly.

The real reason people here hate vshojo is because they want the girls to act like pure little dolls so they can imagine owning them.

Vshojo doesn't leash their talents and it drives losers crazy because it makes them remember how actual girls act.

>>72769196
oh no, don't say that to bronies, they might kill themselves.

i like henya so i like vshojo

>>72769196
Bros, where do I find a Henya GF?

>>72768646
JP holos don't act like real people
Also your pic related would join vshojo in a heartbeat.

>>72766492
4/5 of myth had less than 10k subs before joining Hololive

>>72765569
they hired Haruka
>b-but she was friends with everyone!
yeah and? that's obviously a positive when you try to make a group.

>>72765254
This, but unironically.

>>72769196
>actual girls
Yeah, whores, just look at twitch top female streamers, if you want vtubers to be that 2.0 you should be gatekeept. Thank God hololive is the absolute king and it won't budge, just Pekoramama stream today mogs any stream that Vshit ever did. Iron Lung spent 100k to be owned by a middle aged woman who is probably on menopause already.

>>72769420
>real people
Here's the content that real people make, I hope you rike it.

>>72769596
The fact that this is better than hololive really says everything about hololive

>Post something retarded about inoffensive small or medium corpo
>Samefag blaming it on hololive fans
How do people not get tired of doing this routine every day

>>72765335
Wasn't Gura mostly known for her shitposting songs, her streams weren't that popular, no?

>>72768255
>Pomu is joining vshojo
As a vshojofag it's still up in the air until AX. If she doesn't join then it's probably over for this year.

>>72769518
Not like your whore abandoning chumcucks after milking and mind break you retards to give her money, she doesn't even give a fuck anymore, and be careful bc your twin whores are about to do the same thing cuckfians.

>>72769518
>I am supposed to unironically believe that you aren't so angry that you're losing control of your bowels, and you are in fact the most alpha man to ever live

>>72764624
That can't possibly be true if a 'major' company of 11 livers can make this many of you faggots seethe this hard

>>72769518
This. The western female twitch streamers just keeps trying to insert sex in all things. If hololive wasn't still standing you bet your ass they'll be the golden standard and spread whore behaviour while complaining about objectification and them being 'forced' to do sexual content to everyone. Does anyone remember that twitch meta? Or the recent butt/boob screen streams

>>72769391
String trap with Reeses as the bait.

>>72769690
>fleshtuber whore fan
Okay, I said enough.

>>72769690
Your personal taste is showing anon. Why don't you just watch on porn websites? Skip the gaming part?

>>72769321
It's all the same proponent of avoidant mentally unwell dudes online who seek a fantasy world online. Girls in real life can be crude and horny and gross but that's all hard to comprehend when dudes grew up with princess saving stories.
People like >>72769518 are just a lost cause of mentally ill social outcasts who will never be happy in the real world so they spend their disability checks on their oshi thinking it makes them a potential husband for the fictional jpeg girl.

Unfortunately for them the culture is trending more in that direction. Even the most recent HoloEN gen is pretty unhinged and yabai. Its unstoppable now.

This entire thread is SEA vs SEA and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Flags when?
On top of that Pomu even explicitly said she wasn't joining so it feels like all the Vshojo "fans" in this thread are shitposters and not actual fans
Kill all tribalist shitposters, including Holofags and Vshojofags.

>>72765409
>Gura who had millions of subs
She barely had 1 million subs retardchama.

>>72770002
Doesn't help the fact casual sex is so normalized, rape doesn't register in western side anymore just thinking it's just 'simple harrasment'

>>72770187
>Even the most recent HoloEN gen is pretty unhinged and yabai. Its unstoppable now.
FuwaMoco mogs everyone on their gen and they're more seiso than le unhinged, Bijou is the second and she's more seiso than unhinged. Meanwhile Nerissa and Shiori are on the bottom and both are le unhinged, twisting facts is bad sister.

>>72770002
hololive has people who way worse things especially in Jp

>>72769753
Unfortunately there are unironic tribalists who are stupid enough to take all bait seriously
Any shitpost posted by my tribe: falseflag
Any shitpost posted by another tribe: real and genuine opinions shared by everyone from that tribe

>>72770212
>flags
I'm won't say directly because last time I got banned, but I'm from South America, what are you going to do about it, bitch ass faggot?

If you're a rabid misogynist, Hololive.
If you like real women, Vshojo/indie.

>>72770212
Nobody that likes vshojo can be SEA because SEA can't watch Twitch.

>>72770445
Marine is an angel near western indies, just the fact you even think about comparing them means you don't know nothing about the indie space. Even Iron Lung talked about getting cum on her eye. CUM ON HER EYE, say one holo that said anything near that.

>>72770527
Do you know any cartel members that are also /here/?

>>72764624
Are you still bitter that Kson convinced Pikamee to join Vshoujo?

>>72770002
This is just how women are in real life. They like sex too. When they don't have a contract or the contract is mild they will be comfortable to be themselves.

Hololive contract treats them like public figures, so it's understandable to have an element of business professionalism, but the fact that it leaks into GFE style live streams just enables losers to indulge in their delusions.

>>72770605
Holy shit, misogyny is really popular now then since Hololive is easily 100x times bigger than Vshojo.

>>72770750
Says more about you than anything

>>72770527
>>72770660
LATAM vs SEA then, happy?

>>72770750
>japan
>misogyny

>>72764624
>Vshojo is by far the worst "major" vtuber company
This, but holotrash

>>72770750
>bots
>bigger

>>72770750
If you include JP and ID, Hololive is about 12-13x bigger than VShojo.
On a per-member basis, it's about 2x.

>>72765409
Pretty much. I didn't believe it until I saw a collab with all the high ccv ENers only get 18k while a collab hosted by the same person with Gura in it got 30k--at 2am. When Gura is on at the same time it halfs the ccv of the other person. And that happens cause chumbuds aren't watch while their oshi is on.

>>72765388
thats pretty accurate actually

It's cute when vwhorejo fags act like they matter.

>>72770981
Absolutely based

>>72771258
In the EN space they absolutely matter.

>>72771116
Yeah, I'm also a bot. Look at my metal dick.

>>72770663
Marine has said worse things on her other accounts

>>72771258
Matter enough for you to cry about us

>>72771661
Exactly because of that, retard. It's like Arsenal fans thinking they're great shit, it's annoying seeing someone insignificant thinking they are big shit.

>>72771258
>>72771613
>>72771661
>>72771866
Cna you guys make a discord and jerk each other off there instead? Both Hololive and Vshojo are garbage, stop shitting up the board with your inane corpo wars garbage.

>>72771661
That picture is fucking disgusting lmao, Iron Mouse looks like THAT????

>>72769596
all this bitch ever does is try to find ways to skirt tos to show more skin
And honestly, i respect the hustle

>>72771939
No

>>72771172
Future prospects of en side is kinda grim then. Look at indie vtubers they pop off more in the recommendations due to trend hopping and reaction content, but the EN talents don't do the same even as simple as adding the #vtuber or doing shorts/ consistent video uploads for the algorithm.

>>72771866
Considering how rent free they are for you that's pretty funny. Cope and seethe.

>>72771939
>s-stop shitting up the tribalfagging board with tribalfagging!!!
Or what? You'll cry?

>>72771939
>both are le bad
Nijisister or indiewho, regardless you're part of the runt of vtubing.

>>72771939
keep seething 2view

>>72772093
Do you not get bored? I could generate this entire thread with AI
>Whore whore whore western women BAD
>Slop boring stale
>Random Niji seethe just because

>>72764624
both vshojo and vshojofag are clueless,they dont know what they want or what they want to do,all they did is "poach some niji who are dumb enough to realise they better be indie than joining vshojo" until theres no left and they will ask "NOW WHAT?"

>>72771939
Right. We need to make more room for Niji vs Holo slapfights.

>>72765060
this

>>72772439
Based AI speaking the truth.

>>72770660
lol this is the real reason seafags hate vshojo simple as

>>72764979
>holobeggar
no holo wants pomu or any ex nijiEN,before you say "proof? wheres proof?" go do your rep and actually look at it yourself so you can finally see that holo didnt care about pomu and friends that much.

>>72772224
It's a Holofag attempting to falseflags. VShojo collabs with indies all the time and Nijifags have bigger fish to fry. They've been seething all day since not only is EN4 Mint hard confirmed not happening, but she's cozying up to VShojo really hard even if she's not joining yet

>>72772461
I'm curious to see what happen when livers would want to be in vshojo enmasse. Would it ruin their reputation or make people look at vshojo better.

>>72772439
No, I don't, because I can effortlessly shift between ironic shitposting and serious discussion, and this is basically the only place on the internet worth discussing vtubers on. And on the rare occasions I do get bored I simply go do something else.

>>72770981
this thread

>>72772672
It's also why 90% of holobronies are SEA

What's the point in Holofans and Vshojo fans fighting if the two companies don't even have the same target audience. You can't really even call them competitors.

>>72772751
All VShojo has to do is say no. If they say no but they're close to VShojo anyway then they'll probably get promoted leading up to debut like Quinn and Mint, but that doesn't mean they're joining.

>>72771940
bro stop it its embarassing you are starting to sound like a seething twitter sister. did you take some female hormones today?

>>72772968
Holobronies were begging for Pomu to join them so they had the same target as vshojo who won

>>72770212
This entire thread is Nijifans pretending to be Hololive fans vs Nijifans pretending to be Vshojo fans. They're just seething at the traitor women, Pomu, and seething at their company losing assets.

>>72772751
the question is do vshojo want to recruit them? answer is no,because most of them are "too small" and their profit will be gone,vshojo didnt offer brand power to their member because they already big and come with their established fanbase,thats why they MUST give free model to keep,cut that is very low or very specific,because well,they dont need vshojo to begin with,doki realise this and sayu after rejected by vshojo because of matara and niji clique realise,she already doing great as indie

>>72773216
Every time people ask Holofans if they wanted Pomu, they said no. No one wants former Nijis in Hololive.

>>72773216
>Holobronies were begging for Pomu to join
where is this sister,i'm really curious,your imagination? or your niji discord? lol

>>72766305
Let's not forget that they had Veibae in their roster, and Ironmouse was more crass than she is now. Nyanners was the personification of shit and piss and sex jokes.
It was everything /jp/fags feared Myth was gonna be.
To add to this, the whole Talent freedom is such a joke now. It was always a passive-aggressive jab at hololive and they know it. Now they act all innocent like they are not the ones who started this tribalism.

>>72773332
we dont want her radioactive ass over here and the only one that wants her here is kiara and I don't want this orange woman to be happy too so two birds with one stone kind of deal

>>72772744
Where is my falseflag? Nothing I said was wrong. In this thread you have Holofags seething that Vshojo dares to exist and Vshojofags seething about Pomubeggars wanting her to join Holo.
But Pomu confirmed she's staying indie (effectively as vsj+). Stop using her for your shitpost wars when you don't care about her or watch her.

>>72773252
Yeah indie is better for sayu and doki than having to deal with former niji members which may or may not be part of the clique.

>>72772968
this is what im saying most people that watch holo would never enjoy vshojo content and vice versa. most weebs love idolshit and scripted keyfabe babying the audience like fuwamoco and theres nothing wrong with that. Personally i love to watch whores play games and just hang out. is it so hard to believe i enjoy watching project melody paint warhammer models and be a dork more than when she fucks dildos on chaturbare? its pretty relaxing lol

>>72772968
They do have the same target audience, or at least significant overlap. The whole seiso Holo idols vs. degen Vshojo sluts thing is a meme that bears little resemblance to the actual content of either corpo. As for why they're fighting, it's because the audiences were polarized back in 2021 and the shitflinging has never stopped.

>>72773537

>>72773475
Was it sora that said
>Talent freedom = talent responsibility
Guess someone was more mature than the others.

>>72764624
keep seething sister

>>72773244
i doubt that theres very little actual niji en fans these days outside of china

>>72770527
>South America
>literally just the SEA of the West

>>72764624
>not nijisanji
>not kawaii
>not idol
>not phase
>not holo
face it, vshojo is actually one of the best corpos to work with- talent aside.
>but they're twitch whores!
and? fuck them.

>>72764624
Holokeks really seething that they're still relegated to number 2 in the west AND that they lost the biggest free agent to Vshojo

>>72773675
Hololive is going for the Youtube audience. Vshojo going for the Twitch audience. They have different watching habits. Platform matters, it's why Laplus mostly switching over to Twitch was controversial.

>>72773475
real talk i miss watching veibae talk about shitpiss and her time watching some guy masterbate on chaturbate and cum actual blood while nyanners and mouse laughs their ass off

>>72773725
I think so.
Talent freedom is a noble thing to pursue, but it's an ideal. In the real world, you have to restrain yourself to protect you and your co-workers.
The only companies who don't have to worry about that are those who have 3 views and nobody cares to make a twitter thread about it.

>>72773332
>>72773384
There's several threads begging for her to join EN4 even right now

>>72773623
>Personally i love to watch whores play games and just hang out.
Then you will love Hololive.

>>72773475
And Veibae and Nyanners are gone now so Vshojo is effectively a very different group these days. But that never stopped shitposters

>>72764624
Between roping in large indies (or people who are already orbiters for Ironlung or someone else already a member) and poaching from other companies, their whole business strategy is to be massive parasites.

And as this very thread has shown, their fans are a bunch of arrogant dickheads

>>72774051
The label stuck anon, I don't make the rules.

>>72773675
theres a huge difference in audience anon even the chat and the fan arts and memes reflects that

>>72773931
Laplus should leave holo and their schizo fans

>>72773739

>>72773623
Melody is more kayfabe then most Holomember.

>>72764624
vshojo didn't almost kill anyone or have to lose one of their best talents because of bugmen so I doubt it

>>72774029
believe me i tried and i get bored outta my mind its just an entirely different experince overall i also care very little about idol culture

>>72773977
Are you talking about threads like this?
>>72766217
This is an obvious shitpost/anti thread aimed at Pomu and even if you want to say it's genuine, then it's a Pomie wanting her to be in Holo, not a Holofan begging for Pomu.
>>72745242
This one looks like obvious grudgepost bait but I guess it's very possible it's a genuine cope post. Feels a bit on the nose though.

>>72765755
Niji's customers aren't even human (Chinese)

>>72765569
Everyone paying attention knows something screwy happened with the auditions behind the scenes. There's a reason they completely dropped the idea after Haruka debuted.

Which, by the way, happened over a year ago, which itself was over a year after the single and only round of auditions had closed.

So the short version is they tried out auditions, it wasn't right for VShojo, so they stopped doing it. But you're still mad that they tried.

>>72774145
if you guys dont want her we can take the little bugger and let her collab with all the men she wants its just how vshojo works buddy be thankful to us theres nothing wasted

>>72774145
Laplus should leave her current audience and go all in on overseas unicorns.

>>72774160
>vtuber plipines
lol of course its a seabrown nijifaggots seething about vshojo

>>72773827
>talent aside
That's like saying Xbox is the best platform to play games because it's potent. What matters is the games/content.

>>72774160
im a flip but good god the people here are the most gullible and stupidest people me but the latter its like they have the facts on hand and choose to shove it up their ass

>>72774496
Literally the homeless of vtubing, eat any shit that they're offered.

>>72774139
So going off your logic hololive should be shit on for rushia's actions against her fans, right? Even if she's been gone for years now the "label sticks" and she still represents hololive as a whole.
See how fuckin stupid that sounds when you spell it out?

>>72774881
Rushia didn't do that when in hololive, there's a difference.

>>72775020
literally everything of significance happened while she was in hololive

>>72764624
Much as I dislike Vshojo, even they pale in comparison to Nijisanji

>>72775072
Anon, a discord message appeared on stream, and she started to make a mountain out of a molehill. Nothing else was known at that time, that we know now.

>>72775020
The NDA leak, bf leak, secret marriage, and private paypig video DMs all happened while she was still a talent.

>>72775313
Yeah, and she was fired for it.

>>72770434
Fuwamoco literally had a special valentine's day stream where they showed their slutty nude asses in nothing but aprons, anon
They are certified whores

>>72775313
Remove the first part
And she would still be in Hololive without you knowing this.

>>72775540
>doesn't know what fanservice is

>>72764624
Didn't all the menhera members leave?

Vshojo is by far the worst major vtuber company in terms of porn.

>>72775849
Actually it's good

>>72775849
Sadly, you are right
Except for Zen and Melody

>>72775540
Your brain is disappearing anon...

>>72775313
Man they should terminate her, OH WAIT THEY DID

>>72775787
I do, its when women are sluts for money

>>72776466
Fuwamoco paid money for that artwork, tho. This is the Marine treasure box argument all over again.

>>72776599
Just like how other western whores, like Fuwamoco, have to pay for a camera to show their slut asses to thousands of strangers online, yes

>>72774881
You mean V Shoujo right? Since that is her last label?

>thread about Vshitshow
>FWMC seethe
Zen lost

>>72774856
I find it impressive that your country managed to memoryhole all the transgressions of one of the most infamous kleptocrats in modern history and elect his son saying the exact opposite of what reality says about his father. Truly the perfect market for Nijisanji to retain traction.

>>72764782
Lol idc where she goes but it's her loss. She made a compromise with Nijisanji and while she did have a rather successful (somehow my autocorrect almost typed succubus) career, she did not get the projects that she really wanted. VShojo would support her endeavours in the future though so maybe that's a better move overall?

>>72774160
pagpagsis....

>>72764624

>>72775849
an unfortunate truth

>>72776106
You're missing the point mate, if hololive shouldn't be judged for the actions of a single graduated talent, then why is vshojo?

It really is just seething nijifans pretending hololive fans care that much huh?

>>72780051
But hololive is judged for graduating talents, especially when it came to Coco. We're talking about labels here, doesn't mean they are right.
VShojo is not that bad as people make it out to be, the same way hololive is not as seiso as people think they are. Yet the labels stuck.

>>72764782
>b-but what about Hololive
holy rent free

>>72780180
It's wactorfans pretending to be idolfans pretending to be phasefans pretending to be nijifans pretending to be holofans pretending to be vshojofans pretending to be

>>72769779
No, they really weren't. Her videos were popular but most people just know/knew them as the meme anime girl

>>72780631
you're not making any sense.

>>72769779
For someone who rarely streams, she had a good audience when she did.

>>72780051
Terminated aka fired not graduated, why do think her genmates shunned her during those times/noel blocking rushia plushie art in her bg till outright deleting her when the scandal went in the open

>>72764624

It's not even close to the same style as Niji or Holo. It's just a company that exists as a "We want to make easy money on established people after they leave Niji or Holo. Occasionally, we'll also take a big indie in to act like we're legitimately not just poaching retirees."

>>72780051
The talents and hololive were getting shit on by the fans during the termination, oh how they changed their tune a year later when michaelcat was outed to be a true menhera. But sure let's continue shitting on hololive more.
terminate rushia
>Hate hololive
Rushia revealed as a horrible person
>Hate hololive
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't

>>72782183
Then you see people here asking twhat's so secret about a vtubing company that they fire them for NDA breaches.
What about the fact that they are vtubers in the first place, some of them want to keep their life private. And now with the recent Luca leaks, you see a perfect example of why they do it.

>>72782127
You'd think they'd take a cut of their revenue then.

>>72764624
Is this because they might have snagged pomu instead of her going to hololive?

>>72782535
personal information of her genmates that would damage their reputation and others to third party. The third party coincidentally being a dramatuber in JP I don't remember the details that much anymore, she also played victim card claiming other talents were bullying her etc.. Just one true personal information and people would begin to believe some of those claims against the talents.

>>72782535
By the way that Luca leak especially livers dating part was funny, people keep saying just doing male collabs won't turn to relationships or cause drama within the company, and see what happened.

>>72784018
For the first time, I felt bad for shitting on unicorns. I still don't mind the occasional male collab here and there, but if because of this dating shit the relationship between members have to suffer, I'd rather see it segregated as much as possible.

>>72765424
tribalism, that's all

>>72764624
No amount of whining will stop the inevitable Melody CB collab
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1561759824332849152

>>72766067
They know they can't compete with Hololive, and that's a good thing.

>>72769596
Braaap fags must be in heaven over this new twitch whore meta

>>72764624
I know it's easy to forget, but Nijisanji still technically exists for now.

>>72764624
holoseethe

>>72765790
Exactly! And then if you say you've never liked her you get called a Nijinig.

>>72773623
But I love both Melody and Fuwamoco

>>72766999
This model is so fucking gross. Look at that boy face.

>>72771940
No, she looks like this.

>>72785751
Damn, I didn't know they made a gender bender of Gollum.

>>72764624
It's nice to see that Nijisanji is no longer considered "major"

>>72768754
Oh both can be true
She is Hololive material

She's still not getting in

>>72764782
Pay your talents, gunrunt

>>72764624
VShojo is stale water. Except when stale water says they like you but abandon you when woke twitter mafia comes and holy shit nothing happens. then they just cry about sponsored streams. I'm talking about Iron mouse

>>72765409
Do Chumkeks REALLY?

>>72785015
>compete
they work in two different domains and in two different platforms.

>>72765409
This is the most based post I've read in a while /here/

>>72785462

>>72764624
vshojo is compromised of literal corporate rejects. And they're worthless. Even ironlung boasts more viewers but receives fractions of the money holos do

Vshojo supremacy is real

>>72764624
Bug/SEAnig/Nijisister hands typed this. Cope and seethe, Chinamen.

>>72769420