/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72625439
False just buy a god damn ad

>>72625589
nah fuck sisters they ruined this board with avatar fagging and blogposting

>>72625439
So who's the leaker?

>>72626024
Yeah I agree.
It's still disgusting that he's employed.

tfw no mommy gf

>>72625439
What would be the fate of Luca if he fell from grace and abandoned by the sisters?
>No money. Raziel kidnaps him and makes him her sex slave for the rest of his life
>No money. Raziel forces him to become her slave husband for the rest of his life

>>72626216
Considering how things have been going at Niji, I'm sure we'll find out by the end of next month.

>>72626216
vesper

>>72626216

>>72626482
>Goes back to Raziel
>Raziel immediately relapses

>>72626216
Eliraschizo says it was elira and you can’t convince him otherwise.

>>72626216
I think the current theory is either Ike or someone from Iluna. If I had to make a guess, I'd say it's either Aia or Maria

>>72626216
My bets are still on Selen. It lines up while she was still somewhat vindictive and before she started making her "I'm done" statements.

>>72626966
Selen doesn't want anymore drama. What makes you think she would risk herself doing shit like this?

>>72626966
Weren't the Aster leaks after her final statement from the black stream? Besides, I'm pretty sure the Raziel document was specific with it being a current liver.

>>72626966
She has everything to lose if she does that. If she gets mired in drama it might scare away her sponsors.
>>72626773
>Aia or Maria
Motive?

>>72627115
Did you read my post? She doesn't want drama anymore, which is probably the reason both False and Raziel are so adamant on hiding her. Imagine if Raziel came out with DMs from Doki of all people that confirmed her saying Luca was one of the bullies, the chaos would be uncontrollable.

>>72627317
>the reason both False and Raziel are so adamant on hiding her
The reason they're hiding the liver is because if Nijisanji found out, they'll blow his or her ass out the water. They'd have hid it no matter who it was.

>>72626966
If there are multiple leakers then you could say Selen is one, if you wanted to ignore the fact she lawyered up and shut up. But if there's only one it literally cannot be here since some events happened after she left.

>>72627275
It just said a Nijisanji liver. Didn't specify current or former. I'm leaning towards someone not currently on the inside as if that leaked they would be immediately terminated and lose their livelihood. Quinn, Matara, notPomu, and Kuro haven't really said anything about Nijisanji since leaving, meanwhile Doki came out swinging said she wasn't going to be silenced.

This is rrat territory but False did say at the very beginning of his video that
>"She will not be silenced!... Raziel, that is."

>>72626966
She hasn't made a single public attack on Nijisanji yet. If she's seriously just a shadowbeast leaking things in the dark of the night, I'd be very surprised.

>>72626216
>>72626599
>>72626773
>>72626966
>>72627295
It's 100% Kyo you idiots

>>72627591
Not a chance. That would require him to do something that actually benefits another human being.

>>72627491
Why do you keep pointing at Doki? The leaker knows about future events, Doki doesn't. So what's left is. PETRA.

>>72627553
She talked about not earning a lot of money in Niji.
She talked about how poorly management treated her in terms of updates and approvals.
She talked about there being bullies.
She shared her story leading up to termination and how she felt isolated.
She just was smart enough to shut up a little after her termination.

>>72627591
Kyo doesn't type like that. She also states it's a current Nijisanji liver.

>>72627591
actually, could make sense, if the couple that broke up in bad terms was Kyo and Enna, then very well could be Kyo going scorched earth, never understimate the spite of a faggot.

>>72627659
>She talked about not earning a lot of money in Niji.
She literally made 200000+ dollars, she just spent it all on projects

>>72627491
I'm sorry anon, but it ain't stickin'. Doki's lawyer would never allow her to take such risk. And it'd be too boring if it were true.

>>72627317
The reason for hiding it is because if Niji knew who it is they would be fired and probably sued to fuck for leaking confidential shit. The whole it's Selen angle is just dumb, she has nothing to gain from it anymore and everything to loose.

>>72627646
We are talking about who leaked/confirmed Aster harassing girls and Luca harassing other livers to Raziel at the end of her document, not the leaker /here/. False and Raziel are currently the only two people who know who it is, and it's stated that the same person leaked both of these things.

>>72627740

>>72627646
Nothing the leaker said implies they know anything about future events, you DUMBASS.
>>72627731
Leaker doesn't know what Raziel/Luca was aware of, just that they had been waiting for her words.

>>72627783
>The whole it's Selen angle is just dumb, she has nothing to gain from it anymore and everything to loose.
It's vague enough. False also said at the beginning of his stream the DM goes on to ask if Raziel actually hand wrote his merch and both False and Raziel agreed it was an extremely out of pocket question. Someone at the very least is trying to gather evidence. Now, who lawyered up and is gathering evidence as a case against Nijisanji?

My bet is still on whoever had the idea to post that tweet on Elira's twitter.
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1773914046565372182
You can't convince me otherwise it's a hint. If someone is skinwalking Elira's account and posted this then that one was the leaker.

>>72627295
>Aia or Maria
>Motive?
A sex pest bothering you and your girls sound like a motive enough, and if he tried to do weird stuff on an offcollab with the any girl, more reason to.

>>72627916
Nobody?

>>72627934
Management would be skinwalking, not another talent, unless somehow that talent was Enna or Millie - both who wouldn't be looking to risk their jobs to hint at Luca "killing himself to expose the truth." Bad rrat, try again.

>>72626773 (Me)
>>72627295
While we're not sure who Aster harassed, we do know atleast that Scarle was one of them. While it's possible that Ren or Kyo could've leaked to her, I think it's more likely someone who was directly harassed by Aster is the one who spilled the beans, also considering that the document specifies only female livers then it narrows it down to them.

>>72627659
She never said anything like she didn't earn a lot of money, she said she spent everything she earned (200k in a year) and that her mom scolded her for it.
As for the management and bullying stuff, she's never "talked" about it, she put out like 2 tweets very early on, all info since then came from Niji. Same with her story, a couple of tweets, never mentioned it since and said she wanted to move on. She has been very careful with what she's said publicly unlike Nijisanji, which is part of why this went so badly for them

>>72627934
If it was Elira herself playing both sides to tank the company and protect her artist sister I'd kneel and support her forever.

>>72627763
>And it'd be too boring if it were true.
occam's razor.

>>72628128
occam's razor would just be ike or fulgur

>>72627916
Timestamp? She posted the merch images a day after the screenshot in her document, so I'm curious if she was verifying them to the liver first.

>>72628056
It's not a bad thing if she is whistleblowing shitty behavior.

>>72628185
Ike has a personal issue with Luca. Not Aster. The leaker started to message Raziel on Feb 7th when she first talked about the Aster accusations and called Luxiem chikdish. Fulgur has zero reason to say anything to Raziel. Raziel also mysteriously tweeted support out for Doki bird thanking her when she has self reported that she doesn't watch vtubers.

>>72627916
Nobody? there is no case against Niji, Selen has literally said this situation is over from her side and she just wants to move on with her life. There was never any lawsuit, She "lawyered up" because thats what any sane person would do in her situation to check that she was in the right. There were probably threats of legal action early on because of the way Niji was treating her but it never went further than communucations through legal council.

>>72628019
So it's really Elira.

>>72626655
Given that she posted a picture of a character who looks a whole lot like Luca right after the document was released, and said character seems to have a very relevant backstory, I might even agree with him.

https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1773914046565372182
>Character she brought up is a manipulator who literally goes against "The Family" in Star Rail.
>Aventurine tried to play The Family but a leading man obsessed with power and control in The Family, uses a power from higher up to effectively execute him by putting him on a timer until he dies.
>The Family pretends they are harmonic but their entire system is built upon severe coercion.

>>72628369
Leaker didn't say anything about Luxiem being childish, that was Luca. You can literally read the document still.
>>72628470
You've already been told that you misinterpreted his plotline twice.

>>72626216
There is no leader. We've all been played.

>>72626024
https://files.catbox.moe/xqdlgx.pdf

>>72627916
aside from the fact that there is no lawsuit/case and Selen just wants to be done with this. What possible relation could Luca's merch being made/signed by some hag have to Selen's "case" it doesn't help her or prove anything relating to her situation. What would she even do with such info to help her "case". It's dumb.

>>72628369
>Fulgur has zero reason to say anything to Raziel.
Doubling back to say that yes, he does. Scarle's one of his old friends. It's probably the most well known thing about him beyond him being fat and the new god-awful Vesper costume. My rrat is that costume was made as a punishment for something, since there's no fucking way he actually wanted it to look like that.

>>72628369
Money-wise, Doki's still a retard. Thankfully she has management to keep her insane spur of the moment art spendings to a minimum.

I also don't think Selen would specifically have any info for Raz, either. ...Wouldn't Elira actually be the most likely suspect though? Luca and Elira were allegedly the people who we know about who tried to help manage the branch. If not them, then probably another oldhead like pomu or-

...Could it have been pomu? Could she have seen the selen termination, got disillusioned and sent Raz some old screenshots she's been completely hiding for the sake of being unsure of how to deal with them?

>>72628470
I don't think you understood the plotline of HSR friend lmfao. Everything goes exactly how Aventurine wanted it to go... his plan worked.

>>72628629
NTA and I agree with you but it would prove that there is favoritism within the company, since Luca has broken contract at minimum of twice (not contracting his assistant to Nijisanji, and letting outside parties access his Nijisanji accounts)
>>72628690
Not Elira because Elira would have the screenshots. Scarle, Elira, Aster are all out because
>Scarle and Aster are literally involved
>Elira was brought in by Luca

>>72628690
>...Could it have been pomu?
No, because Pomu has basically never interacted with Aster once in her life. And if she were spiteful we'd have known by now, currently she's just back in the broken OL mindset we thought she got out of but never actually left.

>>72628690
Let me make this perfectly clear: Raziel did not claim to be sent screenshots from this individual. She was DM'd about Aster and Luca's behavior as seen here >>72627795 and asked if she did Luca's handwritten merch before she revealed she did that work a few days later in another tweet. I'm currently looking for the timestamp on False's stream where he talks about this but I'm bad at scanning vods tbqh

>>72628690
No screenshots were sent by the leaker. All screenshots were sent by Luca from various sources (Pomu Minecraft, Slack/Teams, Zaion discord), or were taken by Raziel on her own accounts.
>>72628886
It would have to be within 24 hours of the Aster DM. Merch reveal is Feb 8th, DM is Feb 7th.

>>72628690
>Thankfully she has management to keep her insane spur of the moment art spendings to a minimum.
She literally threw 2k away on art competition today.

>>72627295
Maria has a BF and is close friends with Scarle. It would make sense for her to be one of the people most seething over this little rretard picking on and creeping over the girls.

>>72626216
>So who's the leaker?
[spontaneous, uncontrolled laughing in the distance]

>>72629022
She also talks like the person in the DMs, since she doesn't use commas and doesn't have autocaps.

>>72628690
Wasn't there a condition on the leaked Niji contract that they can take your whole revenue if they wanted to if you violated any condition? Do you guys think there is a possibility this happened in order to break the contract and she has to pretend she spent all her earnings on "commissions"?

>>72627783
>The reason for hiding it is because if Niji knew who it is they would be fired and probably sued to fuck for leaking confidential shit.

And if they don't fire the leaker, they'll instead fire Aster's victim(s), and then have Aster and Luca do a black screen video; if they have a third person join them, it'll likely be someone who hasn't done one of these before (so not Lazulight, Vox, Ike, nor Xsoleil; if they insist on a female, it would be one of Ethyria, or Kunai or Vivi)

Spoiler alert: They're not gonna fire Luca for leaking that same confidential shit Raziel published.

>>72629019
I said minimum.
And trust me, she's spent a lot more than that. This contest though isn't just an art contest. It's an art contest that's going to be used for her GamerSupps cup design. It's absolutely fantastic marketing for both of them AND the artists since you know she's going to do a long stream showcasing a bunch of entrants that didn't make it.

I found the timestamp of False reading a further DM asking if she wrote his autographs.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2105480445?t=3h31m8s
"For some reason or another, this Nijisanji Liver also wanted to know if it was true about the merchandise autographs."

Cannot confirm when the DM was sent, but if they are asking it was likely before her tweet confirming it.

>>72629097
that would make her a lot more bitter
She was constantly commissioning insanely expensive VRChat assets and animated shorts (because Anycolor didn't bother making shorts for anyone but Luxiem back then)
She still spends like a retard too so it's not something I'd suspect of Niji

>>72629019
>threw away 2k
Even if you look purely at supas from the past week, that's still only slightly below breaking even. Selen's fans are gachi's who bought out her quantity of 200 limited 100+ USD merch in seconds, so I imagine she's getting more than just supa money too. That's also significantly less than her other projects and ignoring the fact that she's making the money back entirely from the sponsor as well, so it's less like throwing away money and moreso an investment.
>>72629097
For up to a year if I'm not mistaken. It's why Moira-sama suddenly went on a public leave despite the fact she's been known for going AWOL for her 6-year tenure at the company.

>>72629230
It could be after, too. The merch reveal is the first time she posts screenshots about it. I guess it doesn't matter either way, really.

>>72629097
>Wasn't there a condition on the leaked Niji contract that they can take your whole revenue if they wanted to if you violated any condition?
There is. Good luck enforcing that shit in Canada.

>>72629263
Sonny used her assets as late as I think october for his 3d chibi debut.

>>72629019
She'll make that 2k back x100 from her gamersups partnership though so thats actually worth it and it gets the fans involved so double win.

>>72628820
Okay, here goes some fanfic; Pomu is the leaker cuz Aster was harassing Finana. Now, Pomu hates Finana's guts, but in her last fiber of pity(and because she is a dormat), she spill the beans on everything Elira has told her about the hole thing to Raziel/False.

>>72625439
>Mizuchi: BUT I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM! I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR MAKING ME WATCH 600 SEASONS OF MY HERO ACADEMIA!! HOLY SHIT!
Jesus Christ kill Luca

>>72629397
I don't think Pomu hates Finana. She seems conflicted even now on Nijisanji. I think she's just trying to figure out for herself what the fuck she just dedicated 3 years of her life for.

>>72629397
Well, no, but a good try at a rrat anyways.

>>72629479
tank you gozaimuch.

Nips are also laughing at Lucucks

>>72629310
False expressed confusion on stream about this, and Raziel in his chat. Sounds like they didn't reach out or say anything else beyond
>Hey that was Aster in Iluna harassing girls
>Luca fucked over other people
>Thanks for sharing your story we've had our on on you
this is semi interesting to me
>DID YOU BY CHANCE SIGN HIS MERCH?

>>72626216
It's definitely someone you least expected, besides Luca, the one in contact with Raziel is probably Ren, Kyo, Aia

>>72629657
another case for Fulgur imo. If he's as crippled as I've heard, that's probably an actual ordeal for him.

>>72629888
... Luca having the hag sign his merch offends Fulgur because of his bad health? His hand's aren't crippled, anon.

>>72630025
not an offense, but more "hey, can I hire you for that?"

>>72629655
This and the Minecraft thing are still by far the funniest part of this whole drama to me. Imagine being so much of a lazy fuck that you would get a ghostwriter to do your own autograph and can't be fucked to even play video games for yourself. It's actually sad and funny.
Honorable mention to Luca trying to leak his own selfie on 4chan because he didn't like the one on the doxx site

if any Niji organ is lurking /here/, could you tell me how is the mood rn on the discord/slack/teams?

>>72630067
That doesn't line up either. Why would Fulgur hire someone who's handwritting would easily be traced back to Raziel/Luca's merch now?

Also, do we call it Raziel's merch or Luca's merch now lmao? I remember a funny comment I read here if she ever manages to make it big for some reason does the merch become some weird artifact of her past?

>>72630084
"Unexpected yuri arc" - Raziel

>>72630220
>Why would Fulgur hire someone who's handwritting would easily be traced back to Raziel/Luca's merch now?
I think you're misreading anons post. He's saying a vector for Fulgur to get mad would be the fact that Luca could hire someone to do something for him because he's lazy, but Fulgur can't do it because he's cripplingly fat.
Which is a weird argument to make when we already know he's one of the most likely candidates for a leaker after Maria given the fact he was one of the few people to go on a roommate account to say someone is alright.

I thought the leaker was that smug male Niji tuber who said the truth will reveal itself. He's practically untouchable because he knows money and if they tried to sue his ass he has receipts himself and family lawyers that would burn them a new asshole.

>>72630346
Mayuzumi wasn't part of EN.

>>72630346
4chan leaker =/= Agent LK
4chan leaker =/= the person DM'ing Raziel
Agent LK =/= the person DM'ing Raziel
Hope this helps.

>>72630335
>given the fact he was one of the few people to go on a roommate account to say someone is alright.
I forgot about this. That is a good point. I do believe Fulgur happens to be one of the more grown up people left.

>>72630346
Read the thread retard. We aren't talking about LK.

>>72630158
>We remain unaffected.

>>72625439
>>72625439
TL;DR version? Did we get any new info from this stream?

>>72630539
The person who dm'd Raziel wanted to know if the screenshots of her doing Luca's merch were real or not. That's all.

>>72630499
The leakers do their opsec properly why bother larping about hypotheticals on discovering them unless you are a salty NDF loser.

>>72626216
It was Assange

>>72630539
From the stream itself? not really. He was just going over the document again and commenting on it this time.
He confirmed that he's seen the unredacted messages though so he can confirm that Raz's messages do in fact exist.

>>72630567
I was expecting more but whatever I guess.

>>72625439
>Luca is a MHA fan
This is his worst crime so far

>>72626216
RRATSEMI IS THE LEAKER
>LK
>Rosemi Lovelock
>Lovelock
>LovelocK
>LK

>>72630346
>because he knows money and if they tried to sue his ass he has receipts himself and family lawyers
I knew it! it's Riku.

>>72626024
>>72628595

Huh?? When did this come out?

I can't believe the "sexpest" rrats were real all along.

HoloEN burnbook document doko?

>>72630784
Now that's a rrat

>>72630599
It's at least entertaining to play detective, but it also bumps the thread while keeping on topic and gets more people talking about the fact that Luca is currently unsuspended, not terminated, and is now confirmed to be harassing people.

>>72628595
Luca was an actual sexpest? Holy shit!

>>72627115
are you kidding me? All she has is drama. That's her brand. Without it she'd be nothing, no one is watching her for her shit voice or shit apex skills. They're hoping to see the next car crash.

>>72631500
>Fanfiction

>>72631612
>cope

>>72631500
>Nijitroon fan fiction

>>72631677
>>72631500

>>72631500
Makes one wonder how she was the #1 liver in NijiEN before the drama.

Oh.

>>72631500

>>72626024
I agree. Nijisisters deserve everything that comes to them. Vermin the lot of them.

>>72627646
She was also the one who leaked "All Out War" discord...

>>72628595
fucking loaaaading, Jesus.

>>72627659
>She talked about not earning a lot of money in Niji.
That's bullshit. I don't think she said that at all and you're pulling shit from your ass. You can just look at what she spent her money on and then ask yourself is that what someone who was making jack shit would spend thousands of dollars on? VR Chat models, Niji Express, Niji Crossing, her music video, and there's probably many other instances I'm unaware of. Where is she finding the ability to finance all of this?

>>72630084
>Luca trying to leak his own selfie on 4chan because he didn't like the one on the doxx site
And with good reason. He looks like absolute shit.

>>72631500
>t. nijicuck

Odds of something actually happening to Luca over this?

>>72631500
Based

>>72630084
>Source: My ass.
Why does this board have a habit of believing things without proof?

https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca

Stocks open in about 20 hours
Possible white paper publication in about 30 hours (we're already a month overdue)
Get your popcorn ready

>>72634750
directly? zero. indirectly it's just another reason to dissolve the branch into LuxNoc and axe the rest.
>>72634857
>https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1755653110347845923?lang=en
> He told me multiple times, in Nijisanji, as Luca, he wanted to "leak" a better selfie of him because he didn't like the one the dox site and others had. I had to stop him from bringing stuff up from 4chan. He admitted to being in the Lucub Discord.
I'm sure if you'll ask her she'll show the DMs from him. She seems to have kept everything else.

>>72634857
Why are Lucucks so incapable of doing a little google fu? Slow connection in Mindanao? Your oshi is lazy as fuck but it doesn't mean you have to be.
Be like Raziel, the true Luca.

>>72630158
>negligible

Can I get a QRD of what happened this week?

>>72631085
>>72631446
Where does it prove he was a sexpest?

>>72636630
Elira is darth vader and she's trying to get control over Luca Palpatine.

>>72636630
Luca was exposed as a sexpest and retard. He also is /here/.

>>72634857
Its time to face the truth, lukek. This hag was your real oshi all along. Don't be mad that luca betrayed you, be glad that the betrayal led you to your kamioshi, raziel.

>>72627934
nah leak confirm elira and luca is the management

>>72627591
>>72627731
>It's 100% Kyo you idiots
It's just so terse that it feels like another Enna /here/ post. So you guys really did have a bad breakup then, huh?

>>72627916
>Someone at the very least is trying to gather evidence.
With all the backbiting and culture of currying favor with managers to earn their protection, it could be anyone. Ike in particular has a documented grudge against Luca and would make a lot of sense. Definitive proof that Luca might harm their bottom line by hurting future merch sales could be the final step in ascending to "Golden Boy" status after agreeing to help with the blackscreen video.

What I took away from this was that False edited the entire doc for Raziel and pretty much manipulated her into thinking it was a good idea to post it

>>72626404
>>Be a trustfund baby
>>An older woman falls into your cringe ass lap.
>>She helps your lazy ass become a bit internet star
>>Fuck it all up

>>72627553
what are you smoking? she blackmailed them into trying to get ahead of things and put a positive spin on it, this whole thing is because she said she was going to go on public schizo rants if they didn't cave to her demands. the fact that niji bungled their PR doesn't change that she was the one on attack from the start

>>72641199
t. Retard

>>72641199
>The same dredged up timelooped brainless retarded nonsense with added buzzwords
Neck yourself nijifaggot, lemme break it down for ya
>A single canadian girl can't blackmail a billion dollar company
>She didn't psychically predict nijisanji would shoot itself in the dick 50 billion times over and make every single unforced error in the book
>She never attacked them, Not once, Since coming back, Sayu and Matara and Kuro and especially Quinn have not been able to shut up about nijisanji yet somehow the biggest of them hasn't even spared them a single thought since February 16th, and that was by FORCE cause of the retarded black box stream cutting into her neopets stream
>She never said she was going public with anything
You are a brown infected cunt ESL pagpag, Anytime some fucking nijicuck says doki was """BlAcKmAiLiNg NiJi"""i literally have an aneurysm at how retarded that statement is

>>72636630
Raziel Warmonic, alias Mizuchi, one of NijiEN liver Luca Kaneshiro's old mods, recently released a statement on Twitter about Luca (it is 72 pages long). Here is a summary of the allegations against Luca:
https://files.catbox.moe/xqdlgx.pdf
*Raziel knew Luca before he joined Niji; at that time, his name was Java.
*While playing VRChat in 2019, Java masturbated to Raziel's voice in her presence, after an extended period of non-sexual, non-romantic relationship between them; Java's mom then walked in on him.
*This continued into 2020, with Java engaging in "obsessive and possessive" behavior towards Raziel, primarily to prevent Raziel from interacting with other men on VRChat.
*Java also has a history of transphobic and homophobic comments. He admitted to Raziel that he misgendered a trans coworker, and is generally uncomfortable around gay men, feeling insulted when people would insinuate that he was gay.
**The main screenshots for this behavior date to 2019 (as Java), but this continued as Luca; he said "trans people make me uncomfortable" in 2023.
*He repeatedly lied to Raziel and a mutual friend, TrouserGravy, about his life and his activities as a streamer.
*When auditioning for NijiEN, he made two alt Twitter accounts to lie about the audition process.
*He got banned from a GTA V role-playing server for sexual harassment.
*In pre-debut preparations, Java (soon-to-be Luca) took advantage of Raziel, making her do most of the work and blaming her for not doing better.
**Raziel also reveals some of the things NijiEN livers are supposed to do on their own:
***Luca was provided with his model, but was expected to come up with a name.
***Luca came up with the lion mascot.
***Luca made his own introductory presentation, but asked Raziel to clean it up.
***Luca had Raziel commission (on his behalf) Luca's opening and closing animations.
***Luca didn't like the overlay he commissioned.
*During an early stream of Ring Fit Adventure, people in Luca's chat were making sexual comments. Raziel and Luca's other moderator encouraged them to stop and timed out certain people. A SuperChat made at the end of the stream asked why the moderators were banning people, and Luca said he would look into it. After Raziel assured Luca that no one was banned, Luca posted as much on Twitter. Despite this, Raziel and Luca were attacked, doxed, &c. Raziel wanted to speak with Luca and Luca's manager, but both refused to talk, and Luca told Raziel to simply not speak in the chat.
*Despite earlier statements to the contrary, Luca shifted to more "fujo-bait" and BFE content. This was because Luca was comparing himself (and his numbers) to the other Luxiem livers. Luca became more emotionally fragile at this point and repeatedly attacked Raziel for saying anything negative about his new content or focus, even as a joke.
*He used 4chan, allegedly because of Selen's influence. He would also ego-search, mainly on Twitter.
*He would often directly message fans and fan-artists on Twitter; he also lied about this to Raziel on numerous occasions.
*Luca frequently used a password-protected VRChat model of himself; while doing so, he revealed that he was actually Luca many times.
*Raziel said that Luca "has a habit of asking for forgiveness later instead of asking for permission."
*Luca often got into disagreements with other livers. He frequently spatted with Ike, arguing about timelines for mixing covers.
*Luca asked in the general Discord chat for ideas for Luxiem's first anniversary. When only Shu replied, he grew to resent the other Luxiem livers.
*After the ARLive event was canceled, the other Luxiem members wanted to bring issues to management. Luca was the only one who did not want to do so. Raziel states that Luca "expressed how he and Elira would discuss the other livers['] behaviors during this time." This lends credence to the GURRAT of liver-managers.
*Raziel was paid inconsistently by Luca. He had to be pestered to pay her. When Raziel offered to write up a simple contract, Luca vehemently refused; Luca also refused to receive invoices from Raziel.
*Luca's chat was moderated without rules for an extended period of time. This would often force Raziel and the other moderator to explain their actions to Luca after the fact. Luca was very inconsistent and unclear with what his personal expectations for chat behavior were. When the moderators finally wrote up chat rules, Luca rejected them and wrote his own. However, Luca's rules were incoherent and used slang in unclear ways, meaning that the rules were not useful to the moderators.
*Luca never tested any games before playing them. When this led to technical issues, he would turn to Raziel, who would try to help him; but Luca was often unreceptive to Raziel's comments and was very rude.
*Raziel was one of the principal actors involved in creating Luca's Luxiem-themed VRChat room. Luca was often unresponsive and prevented Raziel from speaking with other Luxiem livers.

[cont'd]

>>72641955
*Raziel did much more than just moderation work; except for a credit in Luca's debut and for the VRChat world, Raziel's other work was uncredited. This includes much work she did on the Minecraft server; she was given his account information so as to use his Minecraft account to build it in Creative Mode, and give him the materials to build the remainder in Survival Mode.
*She also made several schedules for him, in addition to contacting artists about using their fan-works for the schedule.
*She wrote the story for Luca's 2nd outfit stream, and the script for his 2023 spring and birthday voice-packs.
*She wrote the hand-written message for Luca's birthday in 2023, and traced over the "Love" design in that image (which had been made by someone else).
*She also wrote the messages (in Japanese and in English) posted on Nijisanji's Twitter account to celebrate Luca's having one million subscribers.
*Luca never received any public-relations training from Nijisanji, and very little management presence was felt. Luca told Raziel that NijiEN management expected him to lead Luxiem (in a managerial sense).
*Luca shared some details of internal management with Raziel. One of these involved Luca's and Luxiem's negotiations with Japanese ANYCOLOR staff about the 2022 Nijifes and the "postponed" ARLive. Only three members of Luxiem were going to be in the 2022 Nijifes, and the song was produced by someone associated with NFTs. When they were confronted about this, the Japanese management was shocked that anyone spoke back to them, and one of them started crying. Luca was then taken out for a very expensive dinner with ANYCOLOR's top brass.
*Some time after this, Raziel broke off most connection with Luca. They talked on occasion after this, but their relationship deteriorated. During this period Luca was very emotionally abusive.
*He took pictures of other livers during IRL excursions, possibly without them knowing.
*Raziel and Luca continued with an extensive, toxic, codependent relationship.
*They finally stopped talking to each other in Spring-Summer 2023.
*Luca knew about Aster harassing female livers, but management didn't do anything and Luca also chose not to do anything after discussing the matter over with Elira and Raziel.
*Luca has also harassed other NijiEN livers; Raziel does not reveal names.
*Raziel knew (threw Luca) of at least two pairs of livers dating. They are described as follows:
**"One pair would date for a while, even meeting up IRL several times, and to my understanding ended things amicably."
**"The other pair I knew of would end up dating for a short amount of time due to one side becoming increasingly demanding and vicious towards the other."

So, yeah, long story short-ish.

>>72626216
Its another liver
This basically sounds like the same shit that started the whole Meiro Roa drama where an unknow liver leaked shit to a dramtuber which caused him to ask Meiro if it was true which led to her leaking stuff in defense

>>72641955
>>72642004
Other then being a bit of a dick in a bad two way toxic relation/friendship and being lazy doesn’t sound like he did anything that awful/cancel worthy

>>72643119
This would get any other "liver" fired.

Selen and Zaion were fired for magnitudes less, It's actually fucking ABSURD that they're both gone and this little dumbass is still there... i mean it's obvious why, It's favoritism, But it completely and utterly delegitimizes the company every single day his ass is still in there, How can anyone believe they "justly terminated" ANYBODY when this guy who breaks NDA like 500x over, Harassing his co-workers and offloading basically his ENTIRE career to this third party, It's actually fucking absurd

>>72643431
bingo.

>>72641199
OK, they didn't cave to her demands, clearly. So where's the doc? It was blackmail, right? So where is it? It's been over a month.

>>72643119
>harassed other organs
>took pictures of other organs irl without their consent
>made separate accounts to harass people
>jerks off to women in voice calls
>sexual harassment
>had a women doing everything behind the scenes while being a bfe streamer
>abusive
>hates trans and gays
>/#/ monkey
Are you blind? If niji's fanbase wasn't full of massive hypocrites, he'd be getting packed up rn

>>72643119
He leaked the fucking company e-mail address, tons of internal projects, and potentially sensitive information about the entire branch.
He shouldn't just be terminated, he ACTUALLY deserves a 3 page slander piece.

>He got banned from a GTA V role-playing server for sexual harassment.
Wait, this isn’t about that VCR or whatever jp server from last year right? The one that Mel and regloss were in. Or it’s just relating another incident
Anyways, I think if you compare the claims with that leaked contract, he is absolutely in violation of heaps of things. Also the whole dinner scenario is fucking hilarious to me, the one with the “millionaires and billionaires”.

>>72644294
I don’t understand what their relationship is. Is it romantic or what?

Are people forgetting that he literally stole hololive bgm? Music that was actually made for the girls?

>>72644397
By sounds of it he was still in high school when they met and she was already in mid-20s. She tried to bring up stuff back in February but it didn't get much attention and most of what she posted didn't make her look good. She threatened to off herself if he didn't give her more attention and used her cat's death in the same way.

Hard to say it's romantic when both have such an unhealthy relationship. Looks like Luca picked up a lot of bad traits from her acting as his role model

based on previous sock puppets by luca, this suspiciously looks like it could be him...
https://twitter.com/bees_waax

>>72644250
>>72644294
hi luca

>>72631500
I wish I could live in a fantasy world. Instead time is fleeting and I'm getting older

Why can't nijisisters go one (1) ONE! day without drama?

You have no idea how happy I am NijiEN became a ghetto for these sorts of vtubers, away from Hololive
>>72645945
Niji bad

>stirring up Luca drama
>meanwhile Luca just had his biggest stream of the month
it's not working

>>72646039
I mean yeah, no shit. Lucubs wouldn't drop him even if he raped Selen live on stream.

>>72625439
>I DON'T HATE HIM
>releases 72 page document on him calling him a harasser/creepy/homophobe/transphobe/pregnophobe
alright woman whatever you say, at least be honest about it

>>72644250
>>72644294
And these were posted why? People are aware that they're both shitty people

>>72644250
>>72644294
why do they always talk like they're in a relationship if she keeps insisting they weren't dating
i really don't believe it

>>72646039
Fujo are never mentally sane, they would happily prostitute for their BFE, so I’m not surprised.
What is amazing is how much someone can effectively screw everyone at work, being a sexpest and an horrible person, and still work there because favoritism.
I’m really inclined to beieve in the internal war theory, there is only so much screwing up you can do before your co-worker actively hate you for being the teacher’s pet.

I don't get it, how is he getting away with it? Are fujos that much stronger than unicorns?

>>72646039
>His biggest stream of the month
>Mogged by doki's guerilla chatting stream
Grimothy

>>72648445
>Are fujos that much stronger than unicorns?
Unironically yes.

>>72648445
Unironically yes, of all the shit unicorns write on this board 95% of the time they never deliver... yumes (the female equivalent) are actually more efficient, just google the K-pop bitches lmao

>>72648445
The "Best" he can do is mid 3k and he averages high 2k, His supas aren't that bad tho but still mogged in overall weekly numbers by doki and BTFO'd by holostars like bettel and ruze, I wouldn't exactly say he is thriving.. if anything this drama with raz is probably giving him a big Drama Buff and his fans are rallying support for him cause of it

>>72648445
Even Mike doesn't do badly despite everything she's done; her numbers and donations are pretty good for an indie.

>>72648445
Yes.

>>72647075
Maybe she likes that

>>72640117
Unironically False is one if the reasons that mizuchi leaks keep coming out, Niji making an enemy out of him was one of their worst things to happen considering he makes daily videos shitting on niji and they all get 200k+ views and thousands of comments

>>72647075
Retard she just wants to help luca become the best version of himself

The ones that are still watching Luca are the fangirls who didn't get filter after Selen's termination and the Raziel drama, so they don't give a single fuck about Luca being a piece of shit. They are also the ones sending the death threats to False and Raziel. So, yes, Luca has a very loyal fanbase, but he is literally stuck with them and can't keep growing.

>>72648445
That and Luxiem favoritism from management.

>>72649326
I mean, it would be literally over for NijiEN if they fire Luca. I'm sure management would love to get rid of him, but they can't do it.

>realizes no one will hold him accountable for anything
>starts doing even more heinous shit
I could see it

>>72649525
Wouldnt put it past a nijishitter

>>72648770
He might get that but it's not sustainable. He was already on thin ice with a lot of vtubers and he's seen as toxic to them so now they want nothing to do with him. He ain't getting the same contacts he used to.

He got shit on recently already for blocking people giving him critique. Closely helping someone write a document which is vastly different from the first version put out a couple of months ago is another misstep. It undermines the doc he's reporting on because you can't trust if he's telling the truth or lying so it fits his narrative. Considering his vids these days though it's easy to believe the latter.

This board got a hard on for False sure but anons can't possibly be that media illiterate not to see how bad this is for him.

Once the Nijishit runs out he's gonna be struggling to find anything to report on because he's created an audience that only wants one thing

>>72650743
>Once the Nijishit runs out he's gonna be struggling to find anything to report on because he's created an audience that only wants one thing
I'm already seeing some of the dramatubers that built their careers on Nijidrama grasping at straws. It would be glorious if the incoming draught starves them to death.

>>72648445
Unironically yes, you still see brainwashed sisters trying to defend Vox and Luca after all the shit they pulled while harrassing Zaion for 1 unfinished joke. Even Mori got called out but these guys are untouchable. And they say hololive is a cult...

>>72650743
>He got shit on recently already for blocking people giving him critique.

He blocked Ducky, who is a cartoonish Niji shill, a crackpot, and frankly fits the definition of "dramatuber" far better than people like False or Legal Mindset ever did.

Somehow, I think False is going to be fine.

>>72648445
Unicorns have a bad rep, but most of the really bad stuff that's happened in the vTubing sphere has been caused by fujos, not Unicorns.

>>72650980
They're STILL harassing her to this day.
It's fucking annoying. A lot of her posts on twitter still have sisters attacking her and seething. Lord knows what her DMs must look like, especially after the doki shit.

>>72650743
>Once the Nijishit runs out he's gonna be struggling to find anything to report on because he's created an audience that only wants one thing
You mean Ducky? Fuck that bottom feeding Nijitool.
Don't get it twisted, all False needs to do is continue to fuck with Niji and its associated scumbags. Get it out to the Lawyer and spread it out to normies. Anything else he does that might lead to his demise is his own business.
Besides, with all the menheras jumping off the Niji ship and scurrying to the other corpos or fucking around in the indie scene, there will be a plethora of drama to feed off on in the future. You can bet on that.

>>72650743
>critique
you mean from the guy who seriously made THIS abomination?
False clearly doesn't block people hard enough because he had a little segment at the end of all the hate and death threats he's been getting from seething sisters.
I don't know if you've ever actually watched a video, but pretty much all he does is shill indies and report on good news EXCEPT for Nijisanji and actual fucking big fuckups like V&U

>>72651159
He blocked more people than that. Anyone that quoted his Offkai post, didn't matter if it were insults or pointing out stuff

>>72651397
Anon-chama please. I'm no Ducky apologist but the guy got invited to Cover HQ even he wouldn't mistake a streamer as being an actual anime screenshot. He'd know the context of the subject he's writing about. Blame whatever fuckin intern Dexerto got for that

>>72649525
This already is blowing over. Dude's untouchable. To any girls that stay in the company, if you don't get out now you're basically giving him tacit approval

>>72651598
No, I'm pretty sure he IS that stupid. He constantly has awful takes and believes every single word that comes out of Nijisanji's corpo mouths. He's somehow the vtuber equivalent of a games journalist.

>>72651704
Don't see whats wrong with that screenshot. Got clarified with a 'has potential' didn't say it would definitely. Weak evidence there anon

>>72651911
Every time I post the other shit he's done I get a vacation or warning for being too off topic, so for anything else, go check out the ducky threads in the archives around when it happened. The jannies were clearing them out left and right. He's a real piece of work, constantly running point on their ridiculous PR management tactics.

Hi Ducky.

>>72651911
Ducky has a Silvervale tattoo so his opinion on anything already doesn't matter

a message of healing for Lucucks during this difficult time

>>72651911
Are you really running defense for ducky? This guy is the buzzfeed of vtuber "journalists." Absolute bottom of the barrel.

>>72651911
He has done more disgusting shit, dude mentioned RM in his vtuber article for holo(Even got it wrong and wrote RM of another holo, kek). I'm lazy to search, but i think it was interview with Silvervale. Dude is as good of a journalist as DN is a vtuber historian. Both are shit and should be excommunicated by everyone, sadly one of them is supported by nijisisters and other is supported by phasefags

>>72641955
>>72642004

>>72651444 (me)
Too lazy to find the others but they around

>>72652372
tl;dr: you're a little bitch, and this will happen again to you.

>>72652229
Didn't he turn into a silver anti after the hogwarts bullshit? Right, that's where I remember him from. He was fucking trying to drag in anybody who played that game as if they were taking a hard political stance and had a fucking list published of who had played the game.

>>72652474
Nah, go do a compilation. It's a good way to remind people what dramafags truly are.

>>72652474
>watch their livers yes
All I needed to see

>>72644250
>>72644294
this shit is so textbook codependency, its sort of gay

>>72652993
*sigh*

>>72644250
>>72644294
Don’t leave out that he then went on to say that a cat hes never been around in his life made him lose sleep and that’s why he was ignoring her.

>>72630539
>>72630713
False also elaborated a little bit on the "independently verified" claims of Luca's VR antics, which are that he has been approached independently by several other vtubers with corroborating stories, before having worked with Raziel to push this doc out. It was that part that convinced him to cover the story, when he usually avoids interpersonal drama.

Also, Raz calls in during the bit about pregnant women to laugh about/explain that there was literally no context for that statement, and also that Luca had confided in her that he was uncomfortable with "how gay Uki was."

>>72653366
>Luca had confided in her that he was uncomfortable with "how gay Uki was."
kek
Uki deserves it for being a sack of shit himself but imagine working with people who hate you
no wonder everyone is traumatized there
Elira moderating as head SJW makes sense

>>72653848
He also kept harassing Yugo. You'd think a SJW wouldn't let that fly.

>>72650743
>He was already on thin ice with a lot of vtubers
Who, sis?

Literal who 1view /here/tubers? False has enjoyed a good reputation with the community writ large, with friends and contacts across the industry. When he uploads a new video, it's very common for one of the people he features to thank him for doing so.

>Closely helping someone write a document which is vastly different from the first version
The only difference is that there's more of it.

>Once the Nijishit runs out he's gonna be struggling to find anything to report on because he's created an audience that only wants one thing
He has been doing this for years and the MAJORITY of his videos are not about Nijisanji or drama, in general. The show is called Things Vtubers Say for a reason.

The immediate previous episode he did was 40 minutes long, 21 minutes of which are about Hololive merch, announcements and recent events. The other 19 is V&U vs Amano Serafi and a Dokibird sponsorship. There are two more videos prior which do not talk about Niji drama.

>>72653886
Kek, imagine the reeeeing if Elira turned out to be a TERF.

>>72653886
>>72653848
the more we learn, the more the true depth of how toxic that shithole is becomes evident. toxic work environments make people do insane shit cause of money and powerplay, especially when you got a bunch of cluster-b skinwalkers in the mix. it's often the devil you know, and SJWs feed on petty political gamesmanship like sustenance

>>72652474
>not including the post that got her blocked
Notice the Nijisister is always quick to tell you that they are being persecuted, but they never tell you why.

>>72653886
We don't know his relationship with Yugo. His intentional misgendering of a transmale coworker happened in 2019.

>>72654104
oh, good. I thought they were the same thing.
Wow, I'm surprised he even had a job.

>>72654204
it has to be the executive protecting him + management being basically nonexistent
nothing else explains why Luca of all people still has a job in, as far as we know, good standing while Zaion got crucified for comparatively nothing

>>72637223
based y/u/ri always win in the end

>>72654506
You don't even need scandals like Luca's to smell preferential treatment in NijiEN.
Enna has a long track record of "dark humor," Hex very openly encouraged unhealthy attachment from his fans, and I dunno maybe other stuff happened.
Aside from Kyo clearly being forced to apologize for his (completely true) statements about Korea, I do not recall a time where a talent who wasn't Selen or Zaion got reprimanded or punished despite many of them doing "worse" than either of them ever did.
And then there's Yugo, who didn't do anything wrong at all(?) and just got unpersoned.

>>72654802
One of the first thing Enna was known for doing was randomly sending pictures of dead penguins to Petra, with the only reasoning being "haha you're a penguin vtuber right? check this lol"

At that point the writing isn't just on the walls but the floors and ceilings too.

>>72654104
>>72654204
He still called Yugo a her/she on stream despite them being a male lore-wise, it's easy to think he did that in private too

>>72654802
The one thing Enna did get reprimanded for was the chicken stereotype thing, which ironically wasn't even something she did intentionally.

>>72655028
>which ironically wasn't even something she did intentionally.
Nigga, she's 100% been on this side of the internet. She knows about the dance.

>>72654961
She... what?

>>72654961
fucking schizophrenia company. these fuckers are a danger to society, they need to be rooted out immediately

>>72654961
The carpets are made out of red flags too.

>>72655113
>>72655226
>>72654961
nta but clip here https://youtu.be/G0-gcckT7Wc?t=120
I have a hard time believing she's joking anymore, it sounds so psychotic the way she just casually talks about bullying petra with dead penguin videos

>>72654961
>>72655343
Truly the Christian Cage of all vtubing.
Holy fuck, Niji wasted this schizo supreme.

>>72655343
i will see every single one of these faggots either admitted to a mental hospital or be jailed

>>72654802
It was always very obvious that the excuses for the firings were just that- excuses. The real reason Zaion and Selen got fired is either because they annoyed the management or because someone in Elira's clique didn't like them.

>>72625439
I can only imagine how shitty everyone feels behind the scenes.They larp as a happy family while shit talking each other behind their backs

>>72655343
Huh, I thought it only happened a couple months after her debut, not half a year later. There's also the gross baby pictures she has saved.

>>72654961
>>72655343
People weren't kidding when they said she was schizophrenic, holy shit.

>>72655343
That's actually psychotic

I'm immediately reminded of a recent running joke with Buffpup and Rosedoodle. Rose loves seals, so Buff has been trolling her with depictions of seals exploding
https://twitter.com/rosedoodles/status/1763784374766776755
These two have been close friends for years. And these exploding seals aren't real.

Petra and Enna at the time of that clip had only spent 9 months together... and Enna is sending her REAL penguin deaths because "I want to know how you would react"
That's sociopathy, textbook

>>72654961
>>72655343
What the fuck, she rly is the Satan of vtubing. Just... why?

>>72654802
>>72654961
Most people forget that Enna had always had a very crass personality. There was a point before Kyo joined where she was already doing whypipo "jokes" and comments on pretty much every stream, to the point where one of her regulars sent a maro asking to tone it down down, which she actually adressed on stream. Turns out things didn't really change and she doubled down on the whole nijicancelled brand of humor she had going on with Selen, Vox and Fulgur. Most of her original had been blinded by her singing talent and her relatable life stories, but even before Iluna the mask had cracked to the point where pretty much everyone who had watched from the beginning realized she was either a horrible person from the start or just someone stupid and very easily carried away by bad influences.

>>72655978
The worst part is Nijicancelled was actually pretty funny except for her bits explicitly. Unless you're really upset by Selen's cannibalism?

>>72655343
Kind of impressive how they consistently they hire the worst kinds of people

>>72641705
are you fucking retarded? it's literally in the termination notice that she did exactly that.

>>72641955
kys faggot. one menhera cunt with a manifesto and an axe to grind means nothing. niji doesn't care, nobody cares. he just got a nendoroid ffs

>>72643658
where's Selen's proof? it goes both ways

>>72637223
based yuri gods showing fujos the real way.

>>72643119
lol how many other liver's signatures aren't actually by them too?

>>72656079
To be honest with you I couldn't have cared less about the group because the only people I ever really watched in niji were Pomu from the beginning, Enna a couple weeks after she started, and Rosemi once she got into Master Duel. With Enna in particular I pretty much stopped watching her after the besties off collab because some things just started to feel off about her and the overall aloupeep community which I was very involved with. In hindsight all the signs were there from day 1, but I guess most people including myself were too naive to think that someone could actually be as much of a piece of shit as she turned out to be.

I believe that the people in niji will get their just desserts in due time. If Enna and co. had always been as evil as they apparently turned out to be then I can only hope karma does its thing. Anyways, the good moments are still there as a distant memory for me, and very likely for the OG fans too. To think that the black box stream happened only two years after this gem is still wild to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGS5vU0VkJw

>>72656541
Look who it is, Lazy Luca's new menhera cocksleeve secretary!
He's paying you real well huh?

>>72655343
Fucking evil.

>>72656728
>I can only hope karma does its thing
They're stuck in a dying branch, with dirty laundry being aired on the regular. Also Vox is going to bilibili, Elira starting to tweet in Japanese, Enna's income has had a not-insignificant drop. Karma is already doing its thing instead of the bad ending, let's hope they learn and grow from this.

I started watching Enna after that collab she had with Pomu, because her bitch act was pretty funny. Then I realized she wasn't acting.

>>72657537
Do you honestly believe that those people will actually learn anything from this? I almost want Nijisanji to stay so that those Vtubers and their fanbases are quarantined away from my oshi

>>72656541
Don't talk about your oshi like that, lukek. While luca was being a creepy sex pest, raziel was planning the content and writing the scripts to make sure you felt entertained and loved. While he was jerking off to coworkers in discord calls, she was writing signatures to let you know you're appreciated. When she left, his content noticeably fell off because she was the one who really cared about (you). Pull your head out of the sand, your real oshi is waiting for you.

>>72656728
I'm curious. As someone who had spent a lot of time watching Enna and also spent time with her community, what are the things you perceived as "feeling off" that you described about Enna and the Aloupeeps?

>>72657922
Agreed. Some of the nijis are just stupid kids that didn't have any kind of training, but the rest are legit malicious people that deserve to stay there forever.

>>72626216
LISTEN IT'S LUCA, I KNOW EVERYTHING, IT'S BEEN LUCA ALL ALONG HE WANTS TO LEAVE BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO LET HIM GO AND HE IS GIVING OUT INFO PIECE BY PIECE UNTIL IT COMES BACK TO HIM AND HE CAN LEAVE

>>72658149
I kind of love how "I hope your oshi never leaves Nijisanji" has become an insult.

>>72656541
You do realize if this was all he did with her, and only got praised, he’s still doing it with someone willing to play ball?
Your “oshi” is a manager, please remove that nendroid from there Nijisis, he doesn’t want to touch you, only your money to give it to his pimp Igarashi.

>>72658149
What really grinds my gears is the fact that the fanbases of those Vtubers enable them to continue doing this nonsense. As other anons pointed out >>72654802
>>72655503
Selen and Doki got fired for basically nothing while Luca still remains in the company and people are actually defending this. Any competent company with an employee/contractor acting like this would have immediately been terminated.

>>72657922
I do think at least some of them can become better people if life punches them a few times. Hopefully the metaphorical beatdown they're receiving is a learning experience for them.

>>72658203
Not for the males. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised they are offered all kind of incentives and the woman are actially forced to flirt with them to make them look more attractive.
Jesus Niji brings out your inner unicorn, Holo had the right idea segregating, no matter how it damaged their growth.

>>72658489
The fanbase reflects the streamer. Most of the sane fans left after the black frame stream. The remaining ones are just the insane schizos and the ones trying to cope.

>>72655978
>Most people forget that Enna had always had a very crass personality
most ppl dont watch garbage like niji,thats where your problem is anon

>>72658489
Doki got fired because they had to smear her as badly as possible for having receipts, but Doki is actually a good person and even the MV she was gonna leave was a love letter to ghe good times.
All they did is proving goodwill to the company means jack shit to them and the Sis, you are suppose to bow to Niji and give your life for it, or you are evil.
That’s why they have become literally worse than the SJW on twitter, they brought all the fanschizo people hate to something that didn’t need them and Niji is so desperate for money they will allow the worse shit from Idol and Kpop culture if it means money, no matter from when.

>>72658064
For Enna herself she started to feel as if she had lost the drive that she had during the first half a year. After the Higurashi concert and the besties off collab her content started to drift from what she had originally established as her brand. Enna was the runt of niji EN pre-Luxiem, and what got people to watch and support her was her relatability, her gap moe presented in the form of her being crass as I described earlier but overall having a very girly side which she demonstrated through her zatsus and cooking streams. The fact that she was also never shy to talk about her journey as a singer was also something that won a lot of people over. There's a ton of vtubers and just musical content creators that people call talented, but Enna always made it clear that she didn't think she had a particular talent for singing, she just worked hard to overcome her shortcomings and it really showed. After March 2022 she sort of started doing away with that, pushing away the homely and hardworking image to focus on her being more wacky and to appeal better to the new demographic that showed up after her birthday.

That new demographic was mostly people who came from watching other girls and the first wave of nijisisters. The latter in particular never really paid any attention to Enna until after her Chinese NY stream before her birthday, and February just got an influx of viewers that slowly but surely started to replace the original chat members. Most of the people who stuck around for a while after that probably did because they were either big fans of her singing, or just had fond memories of Enna herself. I think that no one who was one of the original viewers stuck around after the Kyo arc, that was the nail in the coffin for the first aloupeeps and left only Kyomies and chinese sisters.

>>72658916
Interesting insight. I started watching Niji for quite a while, back during Luxiem and Noctyx's heyday, so it's nice to hear the well-worded opinion of someone who was really there as opposed to the typical shittery the board usually gets up to. I remember watching a few clips of Enna and I did appreciate her singing voice and the clips of her telling stories. Suffice it to say I probably liked her the most out of Ethyria back then.

As a Dragoon, my opinion of her has since plummeted.

If I may, what's your current opinion of Enna as of now?

>>72625439
looks like nijisanji lost

>>72658916
I think this sort of encapsulates what happened to Nijisanji EN as a whole. The original fanbase was replaced over time, and after Pomu and Selen were given the boot, basically all the remaining original fans (mostly men, presumably) who weren't Twitter creatures of some kind left. Those were the people who mass unsubbed, stopped superchatting, etc.

I really hope no other agency is desperate or stupid enough to hire theunsubsidized, after the branch collapses. They should be radioactive.

>>72659897
Should be "hire them." I apologize for being a phoneposting subhuman.

The leaker is either Enna or Reimu.

>>72659897
The fact is this kind of fanbase never works in the long term. They started to heavily ask for codependency, for their “idols” to be exactly the form they liked or will take it as a personal offense and riot.
Just look at Vox infinite mental pauses or attempt to abandon fujobaiting only to be stuck back into it. Vtubing is already taxing, doing it for schizo fans will only break them faster. There is a reason both Idol and Kpop culture broke and needed sanitation in modern times, it got to a point the old needed to be discarded for something new leading to the Kpop-factory fujo memes we are all familiar for.
Niji is condemned to tha twithout a western audience: appeasing schizo people that eventually will ask too much and the only good response for them will be to debut someone new to create new appeasement, discarding the old that will be abandoned fast. Luca and Vox are experiencing the “brick by brick” effect already, sent to China and Vietnam despite being NijiEN to be “successful”.
Honestly branch fusion would be the best for them. More freedom not being in the center of the investor attention anymore.

>>72659897
>what happened to Nijisanji EN as a whole
perfectly stated, I want to be a doomer and say the en branch shutdown would be the best bet to have a couple of talents rebuild their communities as indies

>>72659487
>As a Dragoon, my opinion of her has since plummeted.
That's a common sentiment regardless of who your oshi is kek.
>If I may, what's your current opinion of Enna as of now?
I think the person behind Enna has to take a long look at herself in the mirror and ask if she is actually fine with how things turned out.
>it's nice to hear the well-worded opinion of someone who was really there as opposed to the typical shittery the board usually gets up to.
/vt/ posters have a proclivity for shitposting, and I'm definitely no exception since I still come to shitpost from time to time. Anyways, that's pretty much it for my opinion regarding the birb in particular. I've mentioned it already but I still have fond memories of Enna and her community from back in 2021/early 2022. However I don't really let that cloud my judgement of her or the branch since I saw the downfall happen in realtime.

>>72660606
I personally think you are fooling yourself. She would cure her “personal doubts” with self-created zatzudan gaschambers with her new fanbase, letting self doubt now only to be assured by heavily filtered messages that she’s “fine” as she is.
The company would then gift her a nice trip to Japan to keep the morale up because this is what JP corpos, all of them, do when office morale is low. Free company trip to bond instead of addressing the issue, that has been a standard response no matter the type of corpo, you can see it parodied even in shows.
The only way she is gonna realize she is letting the worse part of her out is if things go really bad, and that is not gonna happen because Riku will never admit EN is a problem himself, because that will be bad for the investors look.
Bad people get a wake up call only when life crashes on them, it’s not a trope, it’s how life actually works.

>>72651704
Why are nijikeks such numberfags despite their niji organs are mostly 3view shitters?

>>72655343
I remember she shared pictures she had of nude or bathing suit of some kids she was taking care of in an Ethyria collab, where Nina and Reimu froze up when they saw what she sent them and tried to change the topic really fast. She is really some mentally stunted retard that can't understand how weird or evil she is.

>>72662019
I'll bite, anon. I've been hearing this a lot on this board for weeks and I watched the clip of this. Are there any clues or proof other than the clip itself of Enna showing the images that the pictures were actually indecent?

>>72658916
I actually enjoyed the Kyo arc for a bit. I couldn't stand watching him on his own and he quickly became annoying in the collabs, so I can agree with you that it's a hard filter to some degree, but it's existence in of itself wasn't the point where I decided to stop giving her any of my time. I can't imagine Enna having unikeks at pretty much any point anyways.

>>72662409
Nta but it's mostly just one anon who keeps trying to push this rrat. Enna has done enough actual awful shit without grasping at straws about this particular event.
From the reactions and one of them saying it'd "get her cancelled" and think it's more likely to be some mildly stupid shit like getting the kid to do a nazi salute or something.

>>72659897
>The original fanbase was replaced over time
Nope, they were replaced almost entirely and almost immediately by Luxiem.

I've said it before and I'll scream it from the mountaintops as many times as it takes: Luxiem was the worst fucking thing to ever happen to Nijisanji. Not EN, Nijisanji as a whole.

>>72662766
>and think it's more likely to be some mildly stupid shit like getting the kid to do a nazi salute or something.
What a weirdly specific example. Have you seen this photo perhaps?

>>72662686
>I can't imagine Enna having unikeks at pretty much any point anyways.
December 2021 up to the NY enka karaoke was peak unicorn time for aloupeeps. I think it never really showed like with other fanbases because she had a large amount of female viewers from the get-go.

>>72662878
I can't say I ever got heavily involved in her or anyones community, but from the chat experience alone she seemed to have Twitch-esque banter on both ends with chat, not GFE-esque banter. They'd always be ribbing at eachother back and forth, and if there's one thing Unikeks can't handle it's being told they're a lonely virgin who'll never get any "poosay".

>>72663028
You'd be surprised by the straws some people grasp and construct as GFE man.

>>72662870
It was something suggested by another anon when the clip first resurfaced a month or so ago. I think it's a bit mild to say she'll get "cancelled" for CP, and considering Nina was (is?) a Hasan type I think it's a good guess that something like that would still bother her a lot.

>>72658384
oh I couldn't care less about Luca, I've watched him for a grand total of about an hour playing live action claw machines. I just don't believe this rando with HUGE motivation against him, why would anyone? Screenshots are the easiest thing in the world to fake.

>>72629732
I'm betting Aia, I don't think anyone would suspect her.

>>72658489
Selen got fired because she was a shit stirrer. Luca is not. I own a business myself, I'm much more lenient with loyal employees that play ball when I need them to than I am with annoying fucks who constantly push my buttons and don't get along with anyone, even if their infractions are more minor. That's just human nature, you like someone you cut them some slack, if someone is a thorn in your side you look for any excuse get rid of them. Simple as.

>>72658169
The graduation tax is real

>>72654802
Don't forget Elira getting majority of the Lazu merch despite not being the most subbed/watched member.

>>72626024
>He has changed his discord name and picture several times
>Also believe these discord messages I have as proof
Fuck Niji but this kind of seems like a nothing burger.

>>72663595
Because most of those screenshots aren't easy to fake, she has given plenty of details about Luca's PL and some anons have found evidence that corroborate her story, she has given us the name of Luca's manager and Anycolor is doing everything they can to bury the story.

>>72663804
People generally know this. They're just sick of it and, by extension, sick of your ilk.

>>72658036
Tbh she got replaced and Raziel is salty that Luca's other mod is now doing everything that she used to do, and the other mod is actually a luca fan and will kiss his feet and would never leak anything like she does

>>72663974
Considering the internal stuff that leaked in this document I'm going to disagree

>>72645237
probably not but it would be funny if it was

>>72663804
You are quite literally admitting favoritism, that rules for you are optional if people play ball with you.
Thanks for proving 100% ant Luca defender is a piece of dhit that mistreat people itself, I can assure you that your workers actually hate you for boosting the bootlickers instead of treating everyone equally, and it will bite you in the back.

>>72663804
As understandable as your point is, this whole fiasco is a perfect example of how that can go wrong: when getting rid of that thorn ended up leading to a bigger problem instead of being the solution you wanted.

>You can fake those screenshots very easily
Ok, proof? Some sisters love to say that, but they haven't been capable of pointing out any kind of error or issue about the screenshots.

>>72664163
If you really think that employees are treated equally at every workplace, you honestly should just grow up. NTA but I've seen this happen at almost every workplace I've been at. Some people get fired for minor shit and others get a slap on the wrist. It was never fair.

>>72663595
>Any evidence I don’t like is fake
That’s why all of you are hurrying to bury this when Luca’s behaviour and other evidence corroborate the story? Or the fact she is in a position where she would know this stuff?
I feel sorry for you to be just so stuck in this infantilism to deny Luca is a piece of shit that is getting away because he licks enough butt and steals enough momey from her delulu fans. He choose a good character from himself, Mafioso indeed.

>>72649155
At this point the only way these people can fix themselves is becoming homeless. To work their way back into society by their own bootstraps.

>>72664276
So what? Others being a piece of shit doesn't give you a pass for doing the same.

>>72663804
>I own a business myself
sure you do sister.

>>72664332
You're kinda outing yourself as a teenager with the amount of idealism you have lol

>>72664276
I never said things are fair, I said just that it proves pieces of shit cover pieces of shit, which is true.
Basically your new argument is “is normal for this to exist so you should be happy about it”. Faggotry in its purest form.

>>72663804
>annoying fucks who constantly push my buttons and don't get along with anyone
I love how sisters have repeatedly tried to re-write history. Selen regularly organised tournaments that benefited other livers as well, she bought 3D assets for her, Rosemi and some background 3D assets that one of the males was still using up until October of last year. Every single person who interacted with her during her time at NijiEN in a professional capacity has said how lovely she was to work with and how prompt she was with payments. The ONLY people who've suggested she's a shitstirrer are NijiEN management in the termination notice and two of the current livers (Ike didn't even really say anything of meaning).
And as for
>look for any excuse to get rid of them
In most civilised Western countries that's usually considered constructive dismissal and a crime.

>>72664379
This
Its normal to get bullied in a workplace and selen should have sucked it up and grow a thicker skin

>>72663110
That's... a fair enough point actually. I still don't get how Dokilen has managed to get so many unikeks for example.

>>72664379
Anon, I'm 33 years old and, in fact, I own a business. It's not idealism, it's just how it works. Stop being a piece of shit.

>>72664379
You are just saying that he should be justified because other people are qually guilty. Stop being a strawmen, that’s not a defense, is admitting only shit people can like him.

>>72664437
>selen should have sucked it up and grow a thicker skin
Why? So that your precious little black company didn't implode?

>>72664468
No you are not, and no you don't

another thread raided by nijishitters

>>72664444
>Dokilen has managed to get so many unikeks
Where have you seen this?

>>72664379
>idealism
It's called good business practice retard and labor law retard
Way to out yourself as minor who knows shit about working force

>>72664515
Ok, keep being a piece of shit.

>>72664468
You are being a piece of shit. Go in front of your workers and thr public and admit favoritism if that is fine in the world, you know why you wouldn’t do it.
Your argument is a strawmen shittake you wouldn’t even post if you were not an anon, that’s the truth you don’t wanna face.

>>72664545
There are no labor laws in US about "favoritism" lol. At least in the US, it's at-will employment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

>>72664575
I'm not the one claiming favoritism and unfair working practices are ackchyually a good thing, retard-chama

>>72664437
>Workers should shut up and slave for me
Christ seeing the Nijisis argument reminds me how some countries are really still in medieval times. No wonder the high suicide rate and emigration, who would want to live in a country where slavery is the norm?

>>72663804
I strongly doubt the rrat that Selen was a "thorn in their side" who was constantly "stirring shit." Asking for management to do their very basic job duties is not "stirring shit." Trying to arrange events to promote the company and yourself is not "stirring shit."

If you really want her to not mail you about anything, and want her to not organize any events and JUST stream video games day after after day, then it's contingent upon you as a boss to sit her down and say "this is what we want you to do and we don't want you to do anything else ever" and if she wants to leave, she should be allowed to leave peacefully. And you definitely shouldn't be going out out of your way to get one of your most productive employees blacklisted after your bungling made you look bad while firing them.

Frankly, if you're siding with Nijisanji and aren't a sister, you're probably an incompetent boss yourself.

>>72664612
>What is wrongful termination

>>72664631
Did you have a stroke? Read my posts again, very carefully. I'm not the other anon.

>>72664704
No, fuck you

>>72664379
>>72664612
>lol
>lol
This is either a kid or 3rd world doxxsis

>>72664725
Oh, so you are just a retard who doesn't know how to read. That's ok, carry on.

>>72664612
>using the US as an example of reasonable employment law
US workers have some of the worst rights and protections of any developed country.

>>72664682
90% this is a sis falseflagging as a business owner, you wouldn’t want to be caught saying these things live in any country, even in the US you would get a social backlash that will result in people suing for moral damages and riping you apart. Wrongful termination and work abuse are a thing, too bad sis and actual laws are foreigners as sis and mental stability.

>>72663804
What third world business do you run midwit? Some solar panel slumstand in Luzon? A sim card shop in the ass end of Hanoi? A scam call center in Islamabad?
Going to bat for an employee as unskilled, irresponsible, untrusworthy and unmotivated as Luca already marks you as a complete joke.

As a very successful and real business owner I can confirm that favoritism IS good.

>>72664695
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_dismissal

>>72664824
Even then the amount of BS people talk here is not permitted. Lawyers in the US know how to eat contract law like bread, is one of the easiest way to become big to own a big corpo defending a small worker, so if there is a win thry jump at it.
I can assure you no one in the IS would get caught alive doing what Niji did, if they weren’t JP they would be already dead. Evne in the stocks they are being saved by a lot of corpo-protection rules that don’t exist anywhere in civilized markets.

>>72665030
Anon...

>>72664978
As a flying pig I can confirm this post smells like make believe. Go say that in public if true, or stop fagging on an anon board something widely known to not be true.
Just look at Niji for a real life example, these three months surely have been so great favoring some people over others, huh?

>>72664544
Her fans are really in love with her. Maybe unikeks is the wrong term but the only GFE I remember from her is the baking stream.

Lucucks should fucking neck themselves

>>72665356
It is the wrong term, as she's collabed with multiple males in just the month she's been back and there's been no issues.
I don't think the bento stream was meant to be GFE on her part but it did certainly feel that way to a lot of her fans.
But regardless they don't have an issue with male collabs so they're definitely not unicorns.

Luca stream finished 12 hours and retards in here still ask what happened to him yet? *sigh*

>>72663804
>Anon running his business
https://youtu.be/FezAtpZ6tIs

lmao imagine being Luca's coworker and reading the fucking 44 pages of the doc. How do you even face him after that?

>>72665898
You think they didn't know in the first place?

>>72665140
The anon you're responding to was definitely making a joke mocking the other anons claiming to own businesses – see the "very successful and real" part.

>>72665923
Honestly? Probably not. I'm sure they knew he was a piece of shit, but I don't think anyone could guess he used his girlfriend to do practically everything for him.

>>72655343
>>72655907
>>72655343
>psychotic, casual bullying
>immediately projects, "if YOU GUYS are bullying petra I will dismember everyone you love while I make you watch"
>justifies her behavior "I climbed my way up here to have the privelege of bullying petra, you're not allowed"
fucking lizard people are real after all, huh

>>72660535
This. They were playing to the ICP crowd, and then got stuck entertaining the chinese k-idol stan equivalent of fucking juggalos before they realized, and then it's just ACCELERATE all the way down in a weird trauma bond death spiral

>>72662766
Would a little Japanese boy even know the nazi salute considering how hard Japan tries to erase their part in WW2? I agree that it could have just been the kid doing something stupid but I haven’t even seen young kids in burgerland do that sort of thing, not ones young enough to need a babysitter anyway

>>72641955
Good round-up, anon.

>>72668298
I think the implication is she got him to do it by showing him.

>>72663804
ah yes, selen the shit stirrer that organized huge events and cross collabs while the innocent luca destroyed the minecraft server, got his shit served on a plate and cheated on games, unironically fuck off you dumb bitch, the only business you own is a crusty onlyfans profile with 0 subs

>>72664182
very true. and I'm not saying it's correct, just that people aren't machines, everyone shows people they like better treatment than they do people they don't like.

>>72664682
when all the other talents are just doing their job and not causing problems, but this ONE bitch won't shut up, day after day, hassling you non stop, always wanting to do her vanity projects and extracurricular bs, then yeah I can see how she'd rub managers the wrong way. you don't need all that, just freaking stream. and I'm not saying that's the right way to look at it, but if you're a lazy nepo hire 'manager' it's easy to see why she annoyed the fuck out of them.

Can someone explain to me why it's a bad thing that a CEO takes their employees out to dinner?

>>72664356
Have you heard of nutribullet?

>>72664872
not at all. you can fire anyone for cause. a seasonal temp worker is not guaranteed lifetime employment, arguing with management and being unpleasant to work with is plenty of reason to fire someone

>>72669017
And this is why NijiEN is dying, and why a number of sufficiently large companies die: a complete refusal to allow innovation by individuals within the organisation because it upsets and embarrasses those who are simply coasting by.

>>72669207
it's a Japanese company, kind of par for the course. I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did, honestly