/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>explicitly makes the op holoxbreak
we are not beating the asking for bumps allegations
>removes the fig actually having conversations for once part
fake news

>>72518990
yeah I was wondering why it was so bright for a second then realized she was on actual hardware. I'm so used to streamers just emulating or playing on retro game collections

>GAME ANCHOR

Need a sparring partner? ask for matches here

Shinobism Gaming, the team of pro player Momochi and vtuber Yuccho, are going to organize their own SF6 tournament for teams of 3, which fits perfectly with the Lethal Plan trio who have already confirmed their participation. It will be online, Saturday April 6 at 11:00 JST

>>72519239
>removes the fig actually having conversations for once part
I was dangerously approaching size limit and I had to cut something

>we are not beating the asking for bumps allegations
They are not wrong. Non vtuber based /vt/ generals are always the most fragile ones. Damn even /aus/ has a hard time and they are vtuber based.
Pride is a privilege of the wealthy, but is also useless to the dead. We must live. We must flourish.

>>72519356
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szda3eGqAeA
How did we miss this one? We are lacking on our reps

>>72519461
I was making this for the anchor post. Also keep in mind not everyone owns the same game if you do post looking for games. Always remember that fightcade is free

>>72519832
if you were smart you would have used this image

>>72519893
in our defense, youtube really hates people browsing it to find specific things, unlike twitch which has tags

>>72519972
we will use that one from now on then

>>72520061
I am not very smart indeed

The way meche says cilantro is weirdly non-Caucasian

old fighting game ai never knows how to beat getting mashed out by 1 button

>>72520717
oh nice one
did hunter anon got to fight her?

In case you don't already know, the couples are ready for the Botan tournament.
Moshu (vtuber) vs Dtto. (apex expert vtuber)
Day1 (former LoL pro) vs Nana Hoshinana (vtuber who dreams being a esports caster)
Towa vs Futon (cosplayer)
Aki vs Salome
And the initial matches in the expert tournament are:
Rob1n (streamer) vs Rikka (holostar)
Shaka (streamer) vs Yuka (model)
Yoshinama (streamer) vs Donpisha (streamer)
Naraka vs Nakaashi (streamer who is a stuffed monkey, it's interesting)

>>72520946
based on your observations, who do you think has the best advantage in these match ups?

what the fuck

>>72521461
Just Japan being Japan.

>>72521045
In Moshu vs Dtto I have no clear idea, they both put a lot of effort into it. Moshu has more experience but Dtto learns very quickly, so quickly that I think I'm taking a chance on her.
Day1 vs Nana, I have never seen Day1 so I have no opinion.
Towa vs Futon, unfortunately I think Futon.
Aki vs Salome, Salome without a doubt, I imagine her jumping a lot and putting red focus. As she plays classic Zangief her damage is brutal compared to all the sonic booms she can eat from Aki.
On the experts, they are all even and I don't follow them much. I like Naraka but her rival is very good. I hope Yuka does well, since it would be entertaining to see a model go over these streamers, and she is married to Fuudo so she has trained every day with a pro who lives in her house kek.

>>72521614
yeah I had no doubt the holo girls would be the weakest of the bunch since they only just now got back into the game. Salome had decent fundamentals last I checked

2hu is playing holoxbreak will probably be the only one I post because 2hu is a figger: https://www.twitch.tv/reimmomo

>>72522914
shimada probably will. she is a hardcore holo fan

>>72522914
might not be a bad idea to check the past games of the others streaming it anyway since some of them playing it probably play fighting games
specially important in youtube since you cant just search for tags like in twitch

the last unicorn: https://www.twitch.tv/tsumugi0807

>72522914
day 8 of asking why she rebranded i dont know how to call her now

>>72524728
2hu like we always have

>>72524728
Twohoe

>>72524728
Not reimu

>>72522914
she went back to strive after finishing it
guess it isnt a very long game

>>72526170
doesn't seem like it
also this UI looks a lot like the idol showdown victory screen

>>72526407
people on the thread were complaining about so it might die out quickly

>>72526407
time to check these women for fighting games
I predict 0/10

>>72526625
What were the complaints?

>>72527304
shit hitbox for characters and no replayability

>>72527248
https://www.twitch.tv/amahamiko0637
I found a taiwanese one who jongs

>>72527304
I'll share a complaint right now
while game is not hard it feels weird for botan to have an ammo system and to shoot while not moving. I get if you can just spam it with infinite bullets but if you're gonna give her 10 ammo at the start and force her to stand still while most of the enemies have long range moves then what is the point of the 10 bullets? Give me 10 bullets while moving not 10 bullets while planted in the ground. She also has to reload her bullets and you can also miss your shots because you're slightly above the hit box of enemies.

>>72527248
browse them all and youtube and nothing yet, will keep watching the tag to see if the game outs some figters

>>72529003
bro have you even played the game
the only combo you're getting is J+J+J. There is no overlap possible with this game unfortunately. Its way too mindless

>>72529059
well so is final fight and there was always some overlap during the golden arcade era

>game has pvp
turns out it was a fighting game all along
huh

>>72530271
everything is a fighting game if you try hard enough

If all goes well tomorrow I might announce the soul calibur tournament sometime next week. I need to get in contact with some people to arrange some things but I'm aiming for may hopefully

blue wasp debuting today, she is master in gay blue

>>72531344
what time

>>72531890
in 22 minutes

>>72531917
5 minutes?

>>72532832
https://www.twitch.tv/nerukanimiya
right now

https://www.twitch.tv/nerukanimiya
blue crab woman live

>blue crab
We're all gonna make it

>>72533255
>>72533286

>no transcoding
>1080p
every debut is the same

>>72533739
lunanitos...

the crab is nervous as fuck

shes either nervous out of her mind, so autistic she sounds robotic or shes uses a good AI voice

>>72534063
she's reading off a script she wrote but is hard focusing on it because she's nervous

>dunder night
I know you're here crabby

anime bros we are winning

>>72534269
Why do none of them play P+ ): ):

I think she's hiding an accent

>>72534332
Unfortunately I am with lunanito's internet level at the moment, otherwise I would be watching. She seems very interesting.

>>72534601
stealth spic thread...

>>72534601
nice games and I hope she does play them but they voice is tripping me out

>>72534834
>stealth
where do you think we are

>Kanisseurs
these dudes

KORONE BAKERRRRRRRRRRRR
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>72535667
I feel this thread remarkably underestimates the extent of my reach

she is probably esl since even when she wasn't reading it seems like thats just how she talks. Anyways we await her fightan streams.

>>72537038
yeah pretty much, I swear she said she was euro in the wasp thread, french or something? they're rratpedalling hard as fuck over there so no idea about anything

>>72537104
>swear she said she was euro in the wasp thread, french or something
turbo sea but she is hiding it probably by fear of doxing
what she confirmed was not being french

>>72537187
oh well, hope she gets over it because the monotone voice sucks hard

people are actually speculating she might be nade chan(?) so that would explain a lot

>>72537295
nade who
only other nade I know who also plays fightans is nadeshiko and she's partner and doing well so why would she bother

>>72537187
>sea
She rolled her R on a word which caught my attention and explained why she sounded like that. Maybe she's practicing voice acting too? The way she speaks is good for esls because you can understand what's she saying fine and she speaks slowly too. Unfortunate that she'll never touch non-anime kusoge

>>72537474
>doing well so why would she bother
conspiracy theory moment: nadeshiko said previously that fighting games did badly on stream, and she spammed ASMR at all times instead, while playing fighting games online.
She is multi drift chuubing so she can play fightans without having numberrot.

pink thing tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/rinamarinavt

chocolate lady of the lab: https://www.twitch.tv/dimatheduchess

Also forgot to post the eddie gordo trailer from last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANgpGgRTdgU

>>72539264
was he always the nigga from black panther

>>72539350
no for some reason gamedevs have decided this shitty haircut is the only haircut black people get now

>>72539350
I will ask a brazilian chuuba I know if there's a singular brazilian man that rocks that shit

>>72539896
I asked a Brazilian myself and he posted an image of a br with that hair cut. God what a dumb hair cut

>>72540954
damn, checking on the chuuba she actually liked that he brings the roda with him

>>72541027
dude summoning his br ghosts, some domain expansion shit

>>72539350
Progressive racism

The Holocure dev got cocky, thought his reputaiton alone would make the game good. Turns out, you need to study the beat em up greats to know what works and what doesn't. Even in the last few years, FIght'N Rage and Streets of Rage 4 were pretty good.

>>72543163
it does kind of feel like a half baked game meant for a game jam with the only replayability being playing as other characters.

>>72543334
>the only replayability being playing as other characters.
How many characters are there?

>>72543486
9
nepolabo and holox

>>72543581
The bare minimum they could get away with considering the subject matter really.

>>72543163
the folly of mankind...

>>72544252
there's more pngs then content weirdly enough

>>72545576
it's odd because he made it look like he learned a lot with this one

>>72545645
That’s what holofans think makes a game good
>>72547015
Learning a lot about gamedev =/= learning a lot about making a good game in a genre

What kind of fuckass melee dev thought that doing side special should be locked out of run turnaround

>>72547827
the same devs who were making melee out of sticks and stones and dreams

>>72548043
I figure there’s gonna be at least one guy who thinks “hey, what if you want to side b backward while running, yknow, like one of the things that you would instinctively do”
For a game made for casuals, they made some really asinine gamefeel choices

>>72548426
you know the story of its development right? The game is actually broken at its core

>>72548653
Yeah but this is a really simple issue that would be like a 1 line code fix. It’s not like you’re trying to patch out the icg or even implement native ucf

>>72547827
>>72548426
>>72548902
Just play Project Plus.

>>72549017
Yeah but with who ):

tara live and she's talking about wwe? probably tekken later: https://www.twitch.tv/tarakaminarito

sopher tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/afterschoolsophie

>tune into sophie
>she purple rank again
oh no no sophie keks I thought she was tekken god

>>72553440
she has been doing the up and down the entire week

>>72553440
Sopher is trying her best

>had simple controls on
but why

a lot of these dudes in sophie tournament got that platinum rank I feel like

sophie keeps trying to slow parry what looks to be a mid I think on leo

she's been playing this dude a lot, is this a tournament or first to whatever fight?

crunchy sophie audio

>demoted all the way down back to red
Yeah, Idk even know anymore...

>>72557246
if I remember correctly she takes on challenges

>>72558684
tako...

>>72558684
Your char?

you good enough to be on her list bro?

>>72559157
Asuka

>>72559516
Play Reina

Juri anon daily report:

So yesterday I took a break because thumby hort. Took a chance to watch a bunch of short videos youtube videos in order to see how to improve my combos.

Here are my findings:
>Sajam:Tips for Practicing Combos & Mechanical Execution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlWLYGKIvg
Tip: Work hard and try them in casuals (thanks sajam very uselfu)

>Diaphone: How to IMPROVE at Fighting Games - Using Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y07WZgmB_24
Tip: the only thing that matters is having friends you spar with a lot (fuck you diaphone)

>eAthlete Labs: Instantly Improve Your Aim with Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaFPPqUVf6E
Tip: dont focus on your body (fingers?) focus on the external factors.
This one I ate up and tried all day today to react to the bangs in the combo or the sounds the hits made. I tried combos in 50% speed with my eyes closed so I learned to react to the sound.
Sadly once I put 100% speed back I am still fucking up so I dont think my trick worked.

Besides that several videos telling me to sleep properly and shit about the flow.

Most interesting one was this one:
>Improve Your Reaction Speed by Over 20% With THIS Method
https://youtu.be/62_2GQlgsKI
Tip: visualize 15 minutes between training sessions to improve.

Well tried that but I still don't see it. In any case it seems reading advice is pretty useless if I cant determine the effects immediately so what I'm doing from today onwards is spreadsheeting my damage and I will be able to see the effects of the training by mathing out how many times I did the combo right.
>"Counts the times you do it right bro and do it 20 times"
bitch I cant even do twice in a row

Thats it for the day I might train some more or maybe I will start playing random to find plats and ruin their day

>>72560399
>how to improve your reaction speed
honestly after playing mobas at a young age, I just react the second the sound hits and act accordingly which applied a lot to fighting games.
>tip
This dude is telling you to fight a giant imaginary praying mantis
A lot of any improvement comes from just doing it with real people because you can test and practice by yourself all you want but humans react differently then numbers

figger on figger action

I can't believe the lady of the labyrinth also knows sophie too. So weird and coincidental

>>72521461
There's a new one with double the cliantro

>>72565039
as a latino myself I don't mind cilantro but thats too much fucking cilantro what in the fuck

>>72565088
They discovered that from Thais and went absolutely overboard with it. Pretty sure Thais don't dump an assload of cliantro into their food either

>>72564974
wow its like every girl posted here knows each other for some mysterious reason even if they were never in their chats

>>72521461
>>72521573
>>72565039
>>72565088
>>72565988
https://twitter.com/im_mechecheche/status/1773923151011008777
She did it

>>72567477
I literally cannot imagine this being a pizza with tomato sauce. I need this to be a white pizza. I can't see this being good with just tomato sauce

>>72567460
yeah wow its crazy. Who would have thought this could happen?

I have GOT to figure out a good neutral special for Fuwawa. Sharing it with Mococo is not working well

>>72570900
What's mococo's?

>>72571111
A forward flip into a two-handed downward claw smack

>>72571797
Make fuwawa's a low forward dash into uppercut maybe?

>>72572171
That was my thought re: the upper cut but not the dash. It kinda just looks awkward in motion though. I'm thinking of something drastically different, making it one of the moves they wouldn't share at all.

fucking finished story mode holox
gonna go now hard mode

I dont think I will find anyone to play versus any time soon right

>>72572335
Oh I'm dumb. Why use claw when feet do trick

>>72572335
My first thought was to recommend giving her a hell sweep into uppercut until I reread that mococo's had forward movement and only hit once

>>72573703
Not until online is fixed atleast yeah

Aight quitting the 14 hour grind (work+dev).
-patched up cpu recovery to be consistent and tactical
-made changes to launch projections to show DI ranges and determine what will kill or not correctly, including whether something will kill regardless or DI
-brought fluffy closer to parity with fuzzy, hoping to get to the point of adding hitboxes soon

asmr tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/niniasmr

>>72575016
Drive impact?

>>72575284
Directional Influence
https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Directional%20Influence

>>72560399
I got an update: I discover a neat trick that has boosted my performance 100% : instead of hitting the lows with the tip of my thumb, I hit them with the middle and save the tip only for the top buttons.
This has increased my speed tremendously and I was just able to do 3 in a row.
Again, hard to tell if the training had any effect but we will see as I add more hits.
Right now I am at 11 and the end goal is 29, maybe even 32 depending on what I can lab out

good to see sophie is still a massive numberfag

>>72576307
I dont even know how you could explain full thumb vs tip of the thumb in terms of speed other then you aren't spending the second to move your thumb into position and instead just slide it
>>72576543
What did she say? I had to go watch something else a bit ago

>>72576719
>I dont even know how you could explain full thumb vs tip of the thumb in terms of speed other then you aren't spending the second to move your thumb into position and instead just slide it
oh i should try to slide more

>>72577547
Is it like when you play Mario and keep your fingertip planted on the run button so you can tap the jump button with the heel of your thumb pad better or…?

>>72577749
I been lifting up my finger to press the buttons instead of letting them slide
Also I finally managed to pull it on a real match
https://streamable.com/ky6ra4
If I had the control I could had easily extended it and gotten the kill since I still had level 1 but I was too focused on trying to do it right

>>72565988
Japan does that with every food and condiment, see how they drench things like simple omlette dishes in mayonaise so every section is covered in it when no one else would think to do this.

sleb time
lets see tomorrow

>>72579271
if we die i blame the coyodachi

>>72579397
You’re ten years too early

>>72518875
I wnna play HoloXBreak but just know the game will get way better after a few patches so will hold off on it.

>>72580305
looking forward to the versus mode being functional

>>72579271

Final boobies

lif

>>72520061
Next thread

>>72574119
>>72574359
Figured something out https://streamable.com/63av9r
She's meant to be the better recoverer anyway

>>72588884
more pandering

ded

soul cal when?
t. tourist

Holo Sex Break is uh. It’s ok. Seems like it needed more time to playtest and cook but it’s good enough as is. I agree with most anons’ complaints regarding gameplay.
Still it’s very clearly a project of passion and I appreciate that a lot.

>>72594972
That being said I’m not a fan of Kay Yu’s “I just want to make a silly niche game” attitude. If you’re making a game, your chief concern should be making it fun and good, and if people have complaints regarding why it doesn’t fully realize those two points then you need to consider them

>>72595069
kinda weird attitude to take for sure but it's not like he gets any money for this so I can't blame him for just making a thing without aiming for it to be the best

flour

>>72597107
da wose

>>72594040
if you're asking about the board wide one, I haven't decided yet. I'm gonna do a small test one later today though with 8 characters

aki playing streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbC-WmWQNmI

kind of looks like aki is practicing the zangief match up. She's def understands her gameplan, doing flash kicks whenever the other guy goes in. She even did an overhead crossup. She's still gonna kwab against salami

I guess aki is just gonna try and punish her opponent in the tournament, which I guess is what guile does most of the time anyways

I'll probably start getting things ready in like an hour or so. I won't post a link or anything but if you find me then you find me.

board seems a little fast rigt now

>>72606620
New Niji yab?

>>72594040
soon tm

Dev anon your thoughts on the controller idea? https://x.com/aMSaRedYoshi/status/1774130944024485995?s=20

>>72609073
Lmao is this just a boxx with a gc control stick?

>>72609153
yeah it looks like it

looks like I had a good first fight where it went into final round. This is good for my numbers

>>72609856
That’s so funny. If you like levered box controllers this is probably a solid option for platform fighters but the amount of jury-rigging amuses me

https://www.twitch.tv/nerukanimiya
Grand Blue kani is trying HoloxBreak

the last set that happened was real good. I actually expected the ai to play like idiots and roll 1 way only.

>>72609153
is this even legal

>>72612188
Probably not explicitly banned

>>72612188
melee purist will try their best to ban the leverless box

I can't believe shimada went winless

>>72613100
thats on character for her

I'm starting to get an idea of when the ai wants games to end

>>72612747
It’s less about melee Puritanism and more about the accessibility of good controllers. If you’re playing with something that gives you an innate advantage and that same thing isn’t accessible to everyone (eg because of cost) then you’re cheating. It’s like if you got ucf but someone else was playing totally vanilla
Which is why games should strive to make input accessibility independent of controller choice, so long as you can map it

>coyo sends rosemi to losers
>losers finals is coyo vs rosemi
this ai is creating kino storylines

>>72615838
what could be the equivalent of an ai tournament chant
I'm thinking of trying to replicate this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOXs5hg0a5Y

Luna wins it all lemao

>>72616525
also if anyone is even remotely curious of how the bracket went
entire top 8 simulation took about 1 hour and 40 or so minutes give or take. Ai liked to finish games around half a minute in and the losing side usually took 1 or 2 rounds. I'll be a little more in depth with it soon but I think I'm gonna add like an hour buffer during the real tournament since we'll likely have commentators and other things happen in between each game

>>72616525
>>72617112

>>72615354
>because of the cost
this seems like a dumb reason though because regular fighting games lwt people use leaverless just fine. I also feel like melee kills your hands more then a standard controller that I think smash needs innovation when it comes to peripherals

>>72618730
Yeah I agree. For ult the pro controller is pretty good but you don’t have notches so people default to gc again. Gc is just kinda built for smash or the other way around. I’m using Xbox as my basis and have a shitton of config options to make it nicer. Best part is the game logic doesn’t see an “A press,” it sees a “normal press,” which makes it super modular. You can even use the right stick for shielding + shield shifting, no clue why you would though

>>72579397
there's a new holo game, you don't need us

>>72620020
I think the gc controller is overall a perfect controller for the games it's meant for. I essentially kept using it since gc for games like Mario kart or the Mario collection on switch that had sunshine. I think I even used it for crash team racing due to familiarity in kart racers

>>72620218
Just having notches is a game changer for most things. If you need to go directly up, you slot right into it. There’s a lot more lenience for the cardinals and ordinals. It sucks for fps games though, but it works awesome for holocure

huh
very interesting layout

>>72621885
Ok I get the two jump buttons but wtf are the four other gray buttons? Minimum light shields and maximum hard shields

>>72622023
thats probably it since most of these kind of boxes are just weird keyboards anyways. Not analogue like the shoulders on a gc controller

>>72622115
Yeah the fact this uses a stick gets rid of the need for the dumb “walk modifier switch” that full lever less boxx controllers have, that’s pretty tight. The only issue it presents is it will still have snapback

life

We still living: https://youtu.be/rQ8BU_vvQ_0?t=1612

>>72620024
if only life were that simple

What's the best/fastest way to get better? Just playing a lot and grinding experience?

>>72626751
Could always try playing a different character. Like one you have trouble playing against the most. Learning what he does and recognizing the gameplan yourself in order to further you own knowledge

>>72626751
>best/fastest way to get better
according to the research so far, the best way to get better is to fight long sets with a friend around your skill level.

This makes sense since else you will be learning only the things that work on people that don't expect them, and you will be fucked once they download you (me)

Also for my report today: I have not yet made the spreedsheat but I have been landing the combo more consistently lately: the sliding thumb trick did the work, so in fact I am rearranging my controller further to have less buttons on that hand and only keep the important ones.

On a note: is it illegal to play while standing up? I think sitting down might actually not be the most optimal position after all, since it makes you go into automatic mode easier

Shishiro Hai povs:
Botan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WISmLW6o3TE
towa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4hQyj6l7mY
aki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRXoxBSvswI
stars since its related but feel free to ignore:
Rikka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywd6p2of50A
Pizza boy also has a pov watchalong but he is not in the tournament

pink thing tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/rinamarinavt

huntress streets: https://www.twitch.tv/huntress

sopher tekken sophie punch: https://www.twitch.tv/afterschoolsophie
the tako should join these to get some more competitive blood in him

tigers: https://www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger

>>72629289
no more strims

shimada be dogging on dudes with gfs

hiyori https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfs2CtebA8A

>>72595225
Well, he could still use the criticism to take into consideration if he ever considers expanding on the game or making a sequel, if the game makes me go "I'd rather be playing Final Fight 1" then you have a problem and hopefully you can learn from what is said about the game
I don't think all the criticism is meant to trash the game, but the game's shortcomings are plenty so it's hard not to sound overly negative on it, the game's not beyond salvation but it does need work and if he's willing to do so, the criticism is far more important than the "OMG, I clapped when I saw a reference to a member that graduated 4 years ago and did one stream" that far too many holofans do

>>72627567
smol update: I did 14 in a row just now.
If I hone it tomorrow I will be able to keep up with the goals set here: >>72406677

>>72630317
Yeah I’ve completely changed my opinion on the game as I’ve played it more. I think it sucks HARD as what it’s trying to be and it needs tremendous overhauling before it hits what I’d consider “release ready.”
This whole “waaah criticism” thing is extremely childish. People don’t have outlandish expectations because of Holocure, they have very REASONABLE expectations because of the GENRE of this game. If you say you’re putting out a fighting game and you give people Street Fighter 1, they are going to have criticisms, and it’s not because of your reputation.
The changes needed are really small and simple too, so it’s not like people are saying “your game sucks and can never be good” either. Very childish

>>72600962
Did they do scrims for this event or was it all just labbing/coaching?

>>72630238

>>72630729
No it looked like its all just coach streams. Since I believe this is 1 on 1 and not a group tournament? I was watching aki practice on zangiefs this morning

yuni streets: https://www.twitch.tv/yuniruyuni

>>72627567
>is it illegal to play standing up
No don't think so

is she even drawing anymore

shimada schizo ramblings are over
time for some good ass tekken

>>72633956
she is just gonna schizo ramble over tekken anyway

>1 2 throw
>back + 1 instead
shimada is trying to mix me up instead

plugger with the hard R

>>72580305
I enjoyed Holobreaks concept, i really do its a great idea for a side game besides Holocure. I also like trying to find fun builds with characters and such. However I have three major problems

>Only a few synergies between characters/gear and if you dont get RNG luck you lose
>Nothing to gain to keep you playing multiple times
>Keyboard play is painful and UI isnt very good

It feels like updates 2 and 3 will be worlds better but I dont know if that will be a thing when Holocure is the main focus

>>72634839
apparently the dude based it on little fighters 2 and not an actual popular beat em up like final fight, TMNT turtles in time, The Simpsons, River city ect. Dude played 1 beat em up and didnt actually research the genre

>>72635109
The over reliance on projectiles in non-predictable patterns is evidence he’s got a design problem. He wanted megaman, not beat em up. IRONICALLY the final boss gets it right!

https://www.twitch.tv/mizuzue

red shimada with tekken tournament

>>72635428
>>72635109
I do think its got the basis for good shit though it just needs tweaks I just dont knwo if it will ever get them or not

>>72635628
Specifically levels need better rng distributions and Lui needs to be massively standardized

Oh and just any moving attack would be nice

I will ask my oshi to participate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B83-0yECdU

SHISHOU JUST USE YOUR HEAT ENGAGERS
SHISHOU DO LOWS
SHISHOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU

alker... come back to fightan... please... fig needs you...

>>72637315
shimada really should do lows more. The fact that no one does lows is crazy because its free as fuck

>>72637471
So is low like crouching jab or down tilt?

>>72637471
she's literally hitting ff2 and not taking her free guaranteed heat engager followup, it's getting out of hand

>>72637617
tekken works in a 3d space. down tilt would not be the same as a low in tekken. Most of the time it literally hits low like in the sense that its hitting below the knees. jabs are all high in tekken
>>72637630
she's just letting the muscle memory take hold instead of thinking about it

>>72637795
Ok so it’s a tilt that hits downward, got it

>>72637617
Most (all?) fighters have three hit zones, high, mid, and low. Pretty much all moves and decisions in fighting games are designed to play around these three zones, and have common traits across multiple wildly different games. High whiffs if ducked but are usually the fastest moves. Mid hits crouching players even if they block. Low hits players who block while standing. Focusing on only one or two zones means making it easier for the opponent to read your moves, hence why you should do all three.

MORIKO HOP ON TEKKEN PLEASE

>>72638496
Oh, weird… closest we have is getting shield poked because you had a small shield and shifted wrong. And some don’t even have pokes at all

>>72638545
bat hates you she will never play a fightan even if its in her blood

>>72638635
everyone likes me, actually

>>72638596
I sincerely hope you're not this deep into gamedev without knowing common mechanics in other games, no matter how unrelated they may be

>>72638692
They are not applicable to platform fighters, anon. Totally different game genre.

>>72638769
I do believe that the fighting game characters that get included in smash still have rules that only apply to them that were taken from their game

>>72638804
That only applies to inputs and cancels, like command inputs and pseudo magic series. Shielding and the like behave the same for every fighter

>>72638769
Applicable or not having a wide berth of common knowledge helps a lot in designing games, playing a ton of different games should be a requirement even. Going into /tg/ territory for a moment, do you know how many designers ended up with terrible card games because they've only ever played Magic?

>>72638978
I don’t, because smash brothers and platform fighters are the only things I know anymore

>>72639119
I would like you to keep in mind that sakurai literally made smash because he beat the shit out of a couple at king of fighters. Dude really wanted to put iori in smash bro

>>72639227
This is true, but I have also seen so many potential platform fighters fail because they tried too hard to merge outside traditional fighter mechanics into the genre. There’s a certain level of “keeping what works and not adding what doesn’t” that must be done in the field of game design when using an existing genre

>"kaz players are good at the game? can i get a source for that"
>gets triple electric'd on round start instantly
holy shit

I am shit and bad at fighting games/beatemups/whatever, but as a genuine retard I really felt holocksbrek to be awful to control. Characters feel stiff, the control scheme feels unintuitive - even after remapping the keys I was never able to come up with one that felt good - and playing as Botan in particular is just frustrating. At no point did I ever feel like I was fluidly controlling my characters, though I would eventually get less bad at it. 5 buttons are spent on items, but then the things I actually want to do are all overloaded on three other buttons. I haven't completed a run because I am bad, but the runs are also way longer than I thought they'd be since you can't save and quit. I played enough to realize this game isn't going to be for me without some pretty big changes.

He's clearly passionate about this ancient, niche beatemup he cloned, but I hope this game flopping doesn't affect his motivation to work on Holocure.

>>72639585
Try using controller. He set up a profile specifically for it that fixes basically every control issue I faced save for items being a bit wonky. Just remap dodge to RT and you’re golden

>>72639477
talk shit get hit is the truest combo for the streamer
>>72639585
Yeah I dont think any one was questioning weather or not he liked the genre he was making but theres so many weird choices in the game design that I don't understand. I've played a LOT of The simpsons konami game when I was a kid. These are not the same experience. Botan is the worst character to play as I feel like because she has fucked up hitboxes and has an ammo/reload system that makes no sense if she's gonna be immobile for the attack. You need high risk high reward not high risk low reward. I switched to nene and had a better experience playing it because she could beat the shit out of like 3 dudes at once

>>72639813
I was using a dualshock, but didn't think of moving the dodge to a shoulder button. I'll do that if I decide to give it another attempt, but I don't think that alone will make or break the game for me.

>sophie raid

many raids for shimada today. you love to see it.

>>72639894
You get to do the wavedash input :D

>shimada is a kamen rider chad
based

>shimada playing the braven op
this dude even follows me into my other hobby

even mint...

shimada love

damn botan even got a shill post for her tournament: https://x.com/shishirobotan/status/1774315691799351722?s=20

this girl shimada raided needs a way sexier voice to fit this model

>>72630657
>The changes needed are really small and simple too, so it’s not like people are saying “your game sucks and can never be good” either. Very childish
Yeah, at least consider the gameplay changes people are asking for. The game has way too much standing around and it makes stuff like charge attacks not fun to use. If you are goint to patch the game for online multiplayer, at least patch the gameplay a bit too.

>>72642063
>sexier
why are her boobs so big (unironically)

>>72642137
charging attacks forcing you to stand are pretty annoying

I do kind of hope some of the western streets people hear word of the botan tournament. After watching WIK today it sounded like local white man did hear about her a bit. She's putting a lot of work into it to make it seem like a legit event. I won't watch it live but I'll try to catch key moments when I wake up

can anyone tell me what this image is referenced from? (Holo X Break)
i don't recall any such Vtuber

>>72644279
So you don't know?
Fauna likes hitman

>>72644360
i see, thanks a bunch
i figured it's some kinda thug

fauna sexo

anyone got holoxbreak working on linux?

>>72644591
Worked for me with no special handling with default proton, unlike holocure which needed an older version.

>>72644591
lol
lmao

>>72644638
trying to play it on budget steam deck here

Is there a mirror for HoloX Break? I don't use Steam and I don't think I can download the game without it.

botan stream live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WISmLW6o3TE
>>72646044
don't think so. I remember itch.io trying to force the dev to charge money for holocure and then stopped updating that one after that

>>72646368
If someone can just upload the game (how big is it? Says 300MB on Steam so not too much.) I don't think it has DRM.
Or if it does, it's just the Steam DRM, I can remove that myself.

sleb time
we're almost at bump surprisingly. I'll try to bake tomorrow morning or maybe korone baker will who knows. I know jp anon might be paying attention to the botan stream since I believe he liked naraka.
>>72646448
I know its a small game but I have no idea about all that other stuff but maybe our dev anon could tell you about it. My scope on the game goes as far as downloading it and that botan sucks. I don't see any real DRM on it at first glance but you might have to double check its steam page

https://x.com/Sajam/status/1774361878283874695?s=20

Nobody watching Botan's tournament?

>>72648712
No, I will watch any good matches on the archive later.

Towa pretty much throwing what her coach taught her against gief out of the window.

>>72648712
I'm watching it, it's very good. Towa beat the cosplayer in the first round, Aki lost against Salome and recently Salome beat Towa. Now Salome vs Day1 has just been played and this guy playing with Ryu looks too solid, with real combos.
Neither Aki nor Towa are eliminated yet, they are in the losers bracket.

>>72648712
Day1 is just brutal

I missed the start of Botan's tournament, how far in is the event? Have Towa and Aki won any sets?

>>72650117
Towa Won a round, Lost and then lost in losers
Akirose lost hard and got a win in the losers and still is alive

>>72650117
Yes, their participation was very worthy and no holo was left without winning at least one game. Aki still alive, she's going to fight right now.

>>72650528
And she's down. Although man I get that it's more a smart way to fight but the double block standoffs just suck any excitement out of a fight

>>72650710
I feel like in beginner games lots of blocking and waiting should be expected honestly. Also man towa took her loss really hard ( it seemed like she creid a bit?)

Towa could have done way better, her perfomance against plat viewers was way better. Drop a lot of spaghetti today.

>>72651063
It happens, it happens

What are Salome's odds of winning the whole thing? She made it all the way to loser's finals already.

>>72651151
and she's going to Grand Finals

>>72651151
Salome is playing very well, she has clear fundamentals and an effective plan, unfortunately her game is predictable and basic. Day1 has very effective "real" combos, so he will probably anticipate and punish her. Salome would need to use some new plan and I don't know if she has anything else.

wait, why was loser's bracket prior to semis only FT1 instead of FT2

Hi, tourist here who didn’t even know this tournament was happening until I saw Botan’s insane ccv. I’m currently watching desuwa’s pov, I didn’t know she was this good at fighters.

>>72651288
No idea, I guess to speed this up a bit since the event is actually 2 tournaments.

>>72650796
I really don't watch much fightan tournaments so I wouldn't know. I'm enough of an idiot who just really doesn't do much counterfocused characters. After all my game is Hisou and I use Okuu

>>72651322
It's her second big-ish tournament I think

salome's odds arent looking good. she has to win 4 matches to win the whole thing while her opponent just needs 1 more round

rip

>>72651322
Salome was trained by Daigo and Itazan, one of Japan's best Zangief. That's why her way of playing is so simple but solid, she even plays with classic controls although that's more where she wanted to be an ojosu sama like in Hi score girl, lol
Even if she lost in the final, I think she proved to be an effective player and is a well-earned runner-up to the rest.

oh wow the organizers made a custom Botan/Lily fight stick

>>72651777
Yea it's pretty damn good looking also Lucky

Even with how unfair the BO1 in the losers brackets may seem, I think the tournament was very fast, simple and fun. I didn't have any faith in Aki and she won very smartly over Futon. Too bad later Cammy was a bad match up since she couldn't spam the sonic booms.

Day1 being the lone regular dude in between all these anime girls is so funny

>>72651531
I see… Unfortunately she lost just after I posted that.
What happens now? Will she or any of the holo girls get to play again or is it over?

>>72651948
It's over for them pretty much, next up is the professional/experienced players' turn I think

>>72651948
The beginners tournament is over. Now comes the advanced tournament. Naraka and Naomi will be the only vtubers there.
It's good that Towa and Aki won at least one fight, they seemed to be the weakest in the tournament but they were fine. A little sad about how Towa in training was always precise with the anti-airs and now she was not at her best, but I understand that it was nerves.

https://twitter.com/maneater_dgr/status/1774347823108202623

Cover treated Dogura to a feast apparently

>>72652272
If you're going to be the host you give your guests respect. And considering how big the sponsor list is, which still surprises me, gotta put out the good stuff

>>72652241
any notable non-vtuber names to look out for?

>>72652241
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted (even if I didn’t get to see much). I opened Naraka’s pov. Has it already started or is she practicing? Botan’s channel made me think they were on break Also who’s Naomi?

>>72652683
Not for level, but for the interesting factor I can mention Nakaashi and Yuka. The first is a streamer whose whole gimmick is being a stuffed monkey https://twitter.com/nakaashi
Yuka was a model who still does some gravure work but she stays at home as a mother. She is married to Fuudo, a professional gamer who taught her SF6.

>>72652905
https://twitter.com/naomi_ak
Naomi is a relatively famous vtuber in SF6 circles. She is part of IBUSHIGIN, a professional team. At first she was an FPS player for Apex Legends, but little by little she has become an SF6 player.

>>72653269
Fake news! The truth is that in the end Naomi wasn't even going to participate lol, sorry.
Rob1n (streamer) vs Rikka (holostar)
Shaka (streamer) vs Yuka (model)
Yoshinama (streamer) vs Donpisha (streamer)
Naraka vs Nakaashi (stuffed monkey streamer)
These are all.