/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72398808
Gura needs to be given an ultimatum or forced to graduate. They can be gentle about it, trying to find a resolution, but she needs to be made aware that she can't just fuck off indefinitely multiple times
even fuckin SANA at least made up some bullshit excuses

I enjoy watching streams.

i enjoy nijisanji. sometimes i cum while watching ike moaning

everyone should stop thinking their oshi will love them and let them do whatever. Except for me and my oshi because she loves me specifically.

My preferences are:
Clipwatching > Threadreading > Cataloguebrowing > Watching streams

Once there's like 3k viewers there is no need to watch live since your chat won't be noticed in the sea of chatters.

>>72398808
I hate Nijisanji and have fully been on Doki's side during the entirety of the drama, but dragoons or whatever they're called now idk spamming threads every day has gotten old and they should just be happy that their oshi came out on top.

>>72398808
It’s not gay to enjoy Holostars

>>72398808
If your average male vtuber fan had a gf the whole industry would collapse in a month. Men largely use this hobby as a sort of replacement girlfriend, even if they dont think they are doing that.

Every single vtuber fan is retarded. Every. Single. One.

>>72398808
Unicorns are the bane of vtubing industry and suffocate the talents.

>>72398808
I really dont like yuribait or yuri in general and it makes it hard to enjoy the hobby. I want cute girls not gay girls.

>>72398808
Clip watchers are based. This "hobby" is so fucking boring, you need 10 hours of streaming to get out 10 minutes of quality content out of it.
Vtubers are glorified screen savers.
Special events like concerts and stuff like that is the only thing worth sticking around for. And getting cute merch.

>>72399286
This is just false. Kanade and Aqua are smart...

>>72398808
I don't like vtubers

>>72399303
Let me guess, you picked up the definition of a "unicorn" from reddit or twitter and ran with it? Now everyone that has any kind of objection is labelled as a "unicorn"?

I have never seen a group of consumers so proud of being casuals in all my life and it's baffling that such a group could also coalesce on 4chan.

>>72398808
Most VTubers deserve their anti's.

>>72399451
Hey, don't opinion-shame me. That's not cool.

>>72398808
All vtubers are inherently awful people, who think they can hide their inner ugliness behind the anime avatar. Sometimes they're right about that.

Hololive "chads" are the biggest losers among the losers that are vtuber fans

>>72399567
Why do you keep posting a fake supa you made? Is this some weird sister falseflag?

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/UgZq9NREkWa5SKw9oBU5ig/

>>72399567
If nothing else, this whole thing made me realize not to trust anybody Kiara or Nerissa interact with outside of Holo. Kiara with Enna and Nerissa with Reimu is too funny to be a coincidence.

Dykes are gross and I wish yuribaiting wasn't so popular in this industry.

>>72398808
There is no point watching the girls to get the unicorn experience because ultimately they are women and will betray you.
True purity can only be witnessed by watching homos.
This is also why in most noteworthy ancient civilizations love between men is always valued higher than love between a man and one of those whores.

I honestly really like when vtubers have enough kayfabe that you believe they're just an anime girl. I really want some more vtubers where not even antis know anything about their RM status. I would rather the mystery than know.

>>72399451
To his fairness, even EN unicorns don't really know what unicorn means.

>>72398808
sub-continentals and south-east asians shouldn’t be able to access this website

>>72399669
You think they're bigger losers than the overpaying, social justice obsessed, unmarried Nijisanji fans? I mean, I get shitting on chumbuds for throwing money at nothing, but c'mon, be realistic here.

>>72399251
I honestly think I'm happier this way

Gura was above-average at best but momentum and random-chance virality thrust her into the spotlight and now she deeply hates the pressure of being so successful.

>>72399390
Seems like a great case for AI to automatically identify portions of interest.
It would make multi-streaming way less stressful if you could just get an auto-focus on the most interesting one that's going on right now.

>>72398808
I think one of the biggest things really holding the industry back is the fact that vtubing is wildly considered a culture over a medium.There are cultures IN vtubing, that fans have every right to gatekeep, but those culture aren't the very definition of what vtubing is. At it's core, vtubing is someone streaming or putting on an act with a 3D or 2D avatar representing them. gatekeeping the medium as a whole is killing innovating and stagnating everything.

Vtubing is a vast realm of possibility that nobody is taking advantage of since everything has to be just one thing.

You guys fucking sucks let me know you true unpopular opinion

I wish there are less racism and /pol/ in here, can't have a fucking thread without it turning racial insult feast, it disgust me, yes I fucking know what site I am in but many other boards are actually nice and peaceful and stay on topic.

>>72399803
Myth unironically made this so much more of a thing than it could have been. The fact that they essentially hired western ecelebs with well known and easy to find RM's nurtured a culture of every normalfag getting into vtubers through HoloEN being smug and wink wink nudge nudge when it comes to RM's and alternate accounts. RM's were obviously known prior to this, but there wasn't a culture of parading them around like there is now.

>>72398808
Calling the person behind the vtuber their roommate is retarded and makes no sense.

>>72400079
Niggerfaggot go back.

>>72399251
No shit. Onlyfans, dating apps, almost all female streamers and a shitload of other "businesses" would stop existing overnight if the growing lonely male epidemic stopped.

Coomertubers/lewdtubers/porntubers are THE most unfunny and boring streamers.
They only view their audience as a paycheck only pretending to care so that the viewer will sub to their OF

If you actually superchat/donate, you are no better than those sad sacks who throw money at LiveJasmin streamers thinking they're going to see some skin. I can understand people who buy memberships or merch, you at least get something out of it.

>>72398808
I actually like watching the the twitch vthots because they knife me in the front right out of the gate and not in the back after months of emotional investment...

>>72400079
Fuck off back to lereddit troon.

>>72398808
Streamers like Veibae and Shylily have irreparably damaged the western vtubing sphere, despite it already being flawed before them. haha lewd lood boobies!!! "content" ended up becoming the lazy slop that every western vtuber defaults to now, and for some reason a lot of people on this board only seem to acknowledge Vei's involvement in the spread of it.

>>72400079
Shut up faggot.

>>72400465
Mostly agree since I only donate money if a streamer has consistently killed my boredom or improved my day for weeks in a row and even then its not more than $10

>>72400079
That sounds like reddit, you should check that out instead.
Real talk, knowing everyone here is a piece of shit and they act like it keeps this place the realest, most genuine place for conversation on the internet. If you start making people act nice to each other then the culture shifts to one where everyone is afraid to tell the truth. This is how hug boxes are formed, and those are the worst.

>>72400418
>They only view their audience as a paycheck only pretending to care
Do we tell him?

>>72400079
based. the real sensitive crybabies are the ones who have a melty because you don't agree with them, while you're simply tolerating what you don't agree with. 2016 truly ruined this site.

>>72398808
It is retarded to feel "cucked" when men and women collar.

>>72400652
NTA but 4chan is just a different version of a hug box. Virtually every area of discussion on the internet is an echo chamber in its own right. Saying this as somebody who only posts here and thinks the Redditification of vtubing has damaged the hobby tremendously.

>>72400079
If you think this is the board is overdoing it on racism then you must be brand new here.

Take a look at /tv/ or /g/ someday. /vt/ is a far left politically correct haven in comparison.

>>72400829
fuck, *collab

>>72400618
>what he said
I haven't watched veibae but Shylily's chat is just so unbearable and sad to watch.
She'll be having the most brain dead retard moment and mfers will spam "No elping" "No elpers" "Mods kill the elpers" or some variant of that
Any poor soul who makes the decision to help her do the most simplest of tasks gets slapped with a 10 minute timeout and the mod who did it gets his dick sucked by the T3 subs
Hell I've even seen people get slapped with timeouts and bans for just GUESSING what might happen in a game because the mods think they are either backseating or spoiling

>>72398808
bait threads should be removed immediately. Even if that sanitizes the board and makes it int reddit V2, it would still be better than all the shitflinging for no reason. I hate going through so many threads and so many comments just to find someone who wants to genuinely have a discussion about this hobby

>>72400864
Yeah, we have way too many women to effectively be racist here for a day. Though if we had flags turned on, it'd change real fast.

>>72400465
The subscription/membership perks are basically nothing, all of it is cringe unless you're supporting a small independent streamer that you know will be super appreciative

>>72398953
Her job isn't to be a streamer. It's to be the face of Holo.
If she quits then a pillar falls

>>72400864
Let's just hope that anon never finds /trash/, where all the actual groomers and real pedos lurk 24/7. /vt/ is one of the only boards that feels "normal" in comparison to the rest of the site, save for maybe /ck/.

>>72400465
Not disparaging this opinion but this is the reason why anti-parasocials don't drive the industry and the term "content beggar" exists when people try to force this stance for the obnoxious sort who share this opinion and whine about it on xitter all day about unicorns or whatever.

>>72400940
Visit Onigiri chat sometimes, they ban you for saying nice things about her.

>>72399117
Meanwhile I get my grey name chats read all the time
Should have put more points in luck anon

>>72400829
If the tuber is GFE then yeah I wouldn't blame you but if its not a GFE streamer (especially an indie) one then yeah its a little dumb

As an EN "unicorn" I think it's fine that Holostars exist and that some Hololive talents collaborate with them in sponsored and unsponsored streams. It's all about striking a balance with those talents that do and dont.

>>72401020
Thank you for reminding me I should support my small indie chuuba anon

She's ok

>>72401088
This logic fails when you realize that your average /vt/ user will do olympic-level mental gymnastics to justify any girl as GFE.

>>72400079
Cry more niggerfaggot.

>>72401184
sorry, but ewww

>>72400079
actually based for making people seethe so much with such a simple statement

>>72401217
It's always funny seeing people say stuff like "x chuba is GFE because she acts like a real girl". Like what did you expect them to act like? A man?

>>72399251
>unpopular opinion

>>72398808
vtubing should have ended in 2020

>>72398808
Just because the normalfags infesting the hobby are a scourge to be eliminated doesn't mean unicorns aren't delusional cucks.

>>72398808
The people who complain about unicorns or whatever are usually the most parasocial in reality. I constantly see people who bitch about them later turn out to be the ones actually thinking they can be with their oshi instead of just understanding that it's a job and we're just fans

>>72400859
I only recently learned of r/okbuddyhololive due to the manipulated images arc, and the discussion there mimics catalog discussion here to a T

>>72400465
I never really cared about what people do with their money. It's more the idea that paypigs are the single most important part of streams and should dictate what content is that confuses me.

This sentiment is pretty popular here and I don't get it. My oshi (okayu) ended up changing her voice/stream style to appeal to these people and it ruined my enjoyment of her.

>>72401217
Agreed however I do feel kinda bad for some of those guys cause their just lonely and have low confidence
Keep in mind I said SOME
I dont feel bad for the ones who complain and dont put in effort to change

>>72401402
No you see even if she says that she wants to pander to that crowd she doesn't actually want to pander to that crowd, I can read her mind and I know she's saying she would love to collab with me but she's just too afraid of the invisible gun of those damn incel freaks to even consider it.

>>72401020
They shouldn’t be making a living off of streaming in the first place

>>72398808
I think more male vtubers should cater to a straight adult female audience instead of loud underaged gender-confused dykes who don't give them money.

>>72398808
The fact that almost nobody truncates stream VODs down into watchable 10-20 minute highlight reels is a crime against humanity.
I don't want extensively edited videos, nor do I want to sift through hundreds of small clips. Just trim the fucking fat.

It's baffling how every vtuber tries to have some sort of "brand" but cannot bother to make their older content watchable for anyone without unlimited free time.

>>72401540
Agreed. How many popular vtubers are there who don't make money off streaming? Answer: NONE. Because they're all ultimately grifters and only a select amount of 2views view vtubing purely as a fun hobby.

>>72401138
Based. Personally I also think there are lines that can be drawn between 1:1 collabs, group collabs and big events.

>>72399736
idk about enna, but from what I've seen /here/ reimu and nerissa knew each other during their PL time. Reimu even showed up on Nerissa's chat shortly after advent debuted

>>72400079
Actually based. The seething replies just prove how bad this board is. I just want to talk about cute anime pngs playing video games, not some retarded american politics that these monkeys keep shoving into everything.

>>72401448
Yuzu was so enjoyable and funny in 2022 then coomers started giving her money before they'd start cooming in her chat so she'd let them stay
Chat reflects the streamer and the streamer reflects the chat
Rinse and repeat this for a few months and now her model has barley any clothes and she's annoying as fuck now

The idea that something as broad and basic as streamers who have a picture on screen that moves when they talk is something that requires any sort of purity or really anything at all is ridiculous on its face and it’s incredible that anyone sincerely feels that way.

>>72400079
BAHAHAHAHAHA CRY SOME MORE FAGGOT

>>72399251
op was asking for opinions

>>72401717
>t. cuck

>>72400079
>actually unpopular opinion
>faggots immediately start seething
thought this was the unpopular opinion thread tf

>>72398808
ill get called a nijisis but this board has already crossed the line too many times when it's come to niji, nobody cares about containment anymore

Gura is only good when she does yuri content

>>72401088
>>72401217
A lone girl sitting down in front of a camera and talking to an audience of men is thinly veiled GFE regardless of if she does actual roleplay. On top of the third wheel experience, the collabs are almost never entertaining and the guy is just some random retard.

>>72401760
People love to dish things out but can't handle taking it. Many such cases.

>>72401540
This. My unpopular opinion is that VTubing is a hobby that is degenerate and destructive for society, just as bad as any onlyfans whoring, and is definitive proof that women will exploit any avenue they can to ruin men's lives. The fact that these women can make a comfortable living contributing nothing to society leeching money off men shows how fucked we are. Almost no pity for the paypigs either. Literally parasitism. And it's all a replacement for actual relationships because women have used the government and social media to essentially strip men of all power and have an unbeatable hand in social dynamics. I will say they should be given mercy killings because they're too retarded to live.

>>72398953
At this point it's very likely her contract has changed into having minimal streaming requirements in exchange for mascot appearances, firing her would be unnecessarily detrimental to both parties.

I only got into vtubers because I like utaites
But the more I listen to them talk the more I hate them.

They should have just stuck to singing.

>>72401448
This
I liked the newer sex models but the voice change is what made me drop her. Her deep natural voice was great, the high pitched uwu voice she copied from lolitubers was not.

>>72398808
Saying "a" shouldn't get you enough money to luxuriously live for the next 50 years of your life, including generational wealth.

>>72398808
Eating on camera is disgusting. Hearing them munch-munch on the mic makes me mute the stream for 10 minutes.

Requesting a thicc dullahan mori

>>72398808
All vtubers have some degree of a parasocial relationship with their viewers. All vtubers secretly want a Goldilocks principle where their viewers are mentally ill enough to want to watch anime girl pngs for hours every day and donate their disposable income to them, but not mentally ill enough to do anything schizo or have any opinions on their content, work ethic, or decisions.

>>72398808
It's too late now cause we've imprinted the people to the models, but i guenunaly think Fauna voice/personality would've worked better in Bae's model and bae's voice/personality in fauna's model

>>72402012
DON'T LOOK

>>72402015
Sir, your tabs????

>>72398808
If anyone here had half the motivation someone like Vox or Uki does, they'd be fucking their oshis by now. Hell, Vox inspired me to start VA and ASMR work because of how stupidly easy it is.

>>72398808
I hate the fact that most girls are outgoing cuties behind the avatar.
Vtubing was supposed to be the safe space for the awkward, fat and uglies that couldn't meet the standards of IRL streaming.

>>72401867
I don't hate the idea that you can make money off youtube or streaming, if it was reasonable and you were doing something of value.

I've never once seen a stream offer something of value.

>>72400743
you weren’t here in 2016
also thanks for confirming that everyone who unironically says “melty” here is a retarded lefty

The entire culture of false positivity and "wholesome chungus" that Hololive created is extremely cringe and allows them to get away with being extremely shitty people supported by an army of the most disgusting dregs of society that attack anyone and everyone that criticizes them and every day I pray that the company collapses and they all get raped and sold into slavery to the greasy abominations they cultivate that simp for them.

>>72399251
Instantly disproven by the dozens of couples present at holofes and expo

>>72402164
hi millie

>>72402164
That’s just the EN fanbase and the hololive global thread

>>72401557
Because then people will only watch the reel and CCV would plummet.

My hot take is that vtubing is fine and the primary problem is in perception, not the actual state of the industry. That everyone attributes it as uniquely predatory when many industries have existed for ages on worse terms for talents with regular flesh celebrities often making more bank on what's actually much less work while fans set themselves on fire in their backyard.

>>72401836
I agree that vtubing itself is inherently GFE but there is definitely levels to it.
I do also agree with the last part of what you said but as long as the streamer is still interacting with her chat its fine with me for the most part.

If the chuuba is bad at video games I'm going to hate watching the stream, chuubas should absolutely be good at videogames. If not just do zatsus or other stuff

This board didn’t need to be made
EN vtubers could’ve stayed in /trash/ and the 2hu troons on /jp/ should’ve been told to fuck off

>>72402051

>>72402285
I don’t want vtubing to become “more accepted” because normalfaggots will ruin it

>>72402251
Good, let it fall. CCV is a huge meme and turns everything into a gay competition based on how many hispanic teenagers have you on a second monitor

>>72398808
I think that there needs to be a female chuba that plays Runescape.

>>72401540
They should be able to earn a living, but nothing else. Getting sponsorships and collabs just because you stream a few hours a week is ridiculous.

>>72400465
why the fuck are you people even on this board holy shit

>>72402445
Fauna and Ame have talked about Runescape before, though Ame was pretty blunt about not being a fan of it.

i wish my oshi loved me.

>>72402315
Its crazy that this can be considered a hot take
Reminds me of when Shylily was playing Inscryption and she got to the part where you need to go to the main menu and hit new game and she just stood there for 5+ minutes trying to figure out wtf do when it was so obvious an autist could figure it out
Oh yeah and anyone who even typed anything "Esc" "Hit Esc" "Go back to the menu" got slapped with a 10 minute ban while her subs were cheering on the mods for doing the banning

>>72402470
The streaming a few hours a week in question:
https://www.youtube.com/live/CVYbI-1IJnM?si=PGCi2tYDr8Z3d-eK

>>72402564
your first mistake was watching a twitch e-whore that would ridicule vtubing as a concept before holomyth blew up

>>72402470
Streaming for "entertainment" contributes literally nothing of value. It's a vacuum of money that takes from productive members of society and never gives back. It's welfare for zoomers. The mere existence of "professional" streamers is a drain on the economy. Anybody who wants to stream should be forced to show proof of employment at a real job before being allowed to.

>>72402564
Shylily is very obviously a normie girl who got into vtubing because it's easier than flesh streaming. That's what the Twitch crowd likes though, so that's why it's a successful grift.

>>72402470
it's not about them streaming a few hours a week. it's about the things they do outside of streaming that make them deserve sponsorships and collabs

>>72402659
Why are you on this board, gramps? Don’t you have a wife to beat?

a vtuber being parasocial is normal if i speak to the same people everyday for hours and hours of course we feel close

>>72398808
There's literally nothing with Gura's lack of streams. In fact, it's even better like this because I have more time to watch vtubers, and then every time she comes back I watch her again.
It feels nice to have a wife who respects my desire to have some free time.

>>72402175
>Literally DOZENS
Out of 14k people. 99% of that venue was male dude. Vtubing wouldn't be viable without lonely males.

>>72398953
Gura is doing a great job at being a mascot and bringing a lot of revenue to Cover.

Nobody gives a shit if your precious feelings are hurt because she doesn't stream.

>>72402659 (Me)
This also applies to "professional" YouTubers, Tiktokers, and any other form of "content creator", by the way

>>72402658
Its so funny because I've seen her face before she did Vtubing and can say she'd 100% drop to below a 1000 views if she still looks like how she did lmao and people knew about it

Corpos are good and all "creative freedom" sooner or later devolves into react content and fleshstreaming.

>>72402761
Cool
And this is bad how exactly?

>>72402732
Dunno, don't you have a society to ruin?

>>72402799
I've only seen whatever she's publicly posted, but I would assume the massive influx of Twitch viewer money has helped her out in terms of appearance. Most of her viewers would still drop her though, since at least people like Kson were flesh streaming prior to being a vtuber.

>>72402850
jews are already on that gig

>>72402799
she admitted she has been having a lot of plastic surgery lately lmfaooooo

Enna is a gross person, but I like her voice

>>72402732
Have you considered getting a job and bettering your community by doing something productive instead of leeching money off of your parents who actually have contributed something to the economy?

No one should care about the flesh thing behind the screen, i come here to see a cute anime girl talk for hours, as soon as they hit the end stream button they don't exist until they start another one.

>>72400940
>Hell I've even seen people get slapped with timeouts and bans for just GUESSING what might happen in a game because the mods think they are either backseating or spoiling

>it was only ATTEMPTED spoilers
Let het fucking play the game you retard.

There’s a 99% chance you’re an unfaithful bandwagoner if: 1, you get a new oshi without a radical change in your old one’s personality + content(type or volume) OR your own personality and desires, and 2, your new oshi isn’t someone you have watched for an extended period.

>>72402042
Now THIS is an unpopular opinion

>>72402953
No :)

>>72398808
Kiara is not a pleasurable person.

I don't believe you have to be a virgin loser to really get into vtubers, but virgin losers do overestimate how good/entertaining any given vtuber is.
There are showwomen don't get me wrong, but maybe like 2% are this.

>>72402559
Chumbud...

I hate women and seeing them successful for literally just having a pussy unironically makes me angry but I'm also a sad fuck and want a wife so I intentionally give bad advice to 2views to try to make them crash and burn and end up emotionally dependent on me so I can groom the woman out of them.

>>72400743
It's always funny how many of you newfag out themselves by assuming le racism and homophobia on 4chinz started in 2016

More Vtubers should play Total war warhammer so it gets more exposure so CA will finally feel like it should work on the game

>>72398808
Amane Kanata is cute and not a boy.

>>72398808
Most vtubers hate their communities behind the scenes.

>>72402934
When will people learn that Plastic surgery makes you looks worse 9 times out of 10

Kronii is good, being autistic and shy doesn't make you a bad person
I hate dramaniggers,
Doki is overrated but I'm glad she's doing well and kurosanji is dying
Shiori is cool, I don't always enjoy her tangents but I EN needs a different character and there's a lot of room to grow, I can't to see her idol journey

>>72398808
Holomyth is a horrible gen hardcarried by Gura

Laplus would be a really good streamer if she weren't so retarded and her game choices were better

Artia was a good streamer even though she was a piece of shit

80% of Hololive's success is due to them not collabing with males, or very rarely

Miko's old model was way better and had much more SOVL than the current one

There's no point in watching male vtubers if you're not a gay male or a woman

Kronii's early minecraft streams were probably the best content HoloEN ever produced, shame she's terrible right now

HoloJP's 2020 minecraft arc was the golden age of vtubing

>>72402827
I agree
Indies who copy corpos actually have more soul than the tiktok reacters

>>72400079
You know what, I don't have a problem with the racism but what fucking baffles me is the sexism. Like, going on both sides. It's not like I believe that male vtubers deserve more, they're a product in low demand, but it's fucking bizarre to me that the conversation is more complicated than that with sides that think there's an incel conspiracy against men and sides that seem to think all male vtubers are automatically evil rapists instead of this just being a standard economic situation.

But then even more baffling is the amount of people who're able to watch women at work for hours every day and still come out with insane sweeping statements about what women are, whether that includes their oshi or they make some bizarre exception of their oshi. Like every time I see a person say that all women are evil and they wish women were like their oshi when their oshi is just a perfectly normal girl you could find in any city is mindboggling.

>>72402937
Same. I liked her covers when she was an utaite. I wish I never found out what a shitty person she is.

>>72402993
Vtubing is a very saturated market, particularly GFE, and people who limit themselves to 'their oshi' rather than searching for the best content at the best time are trapping themselves with suboptimal experiences.

For a job that almost everyone sing, 98% sing like shit, the other 2% sre hard to find

>>72401064
most people write cringe stuff while trying to be fun, understandable tho antisocial ass people
but anyway, that random and the reason i prefer to shitpost or just speak with chubas in chat

>>72403157
>I hate dramaniggers,
NijiEN's dumpster fire fueling dramatubers and dramafags was the worst possible outcome.

>>72398808
I don't like Nijisanji or Doki, and am tired of seeing the dramaslop every time I open /vt/.

>>72398808
i wish shotatubers, femboytubers, and trannytubers were more popular. weak and failed males must submit to superior ojisan cock.

>>72403292
I feel really bad for the ones who sing but aren't good at it because if you tell them you feel like an asshole but if you dont they might not ever get better

>>72403271
It should not be easy to just find a new oshi. It happens, yeah, but the vast majority of the time the first person was never really their oshi.

>>72403240
All women are whores. Japanese corpo vtubers are watchable because of the rules they have to follow. If these didn't exist they'd just act like ethots. See vshojo and twitch indies.

I don't think this board should have ever existed, we were fine in /jp/

>>72399736
kiara interacts with literally everyone lmao
the moment you see any contradiction with some streamer next moment kiara tweets something under their post

>>72398808
I wish sisters came up with new bait threads, rather than rehashing the same shit over and over again. Used to be somewhat entertaining, but now it's just annoying..

>>72403417

>>72402175
>dozens
There would still be a market, just a much smaller one.

Apparently this is an unpopular opinion but the idol experience goes far beyond "does the bitch talk to men" there is so much that goes into being an idol and I think many girls who anons call idol experience are not because they are lazy, uninspired, and content with gaming and chatting every day while having 0 projects 0 skills 0 ambitions 0 dreams 0 thoughts outside of the latest media slop and are the type of woman to bring negativity or in Twitchfags case, world news into the stream

>>72403417
Good lord Vshojo is so unbearable I've tried to watch them all and the only one I could sit through was Onigiri when she was cooking and I was barely even watching it at that
Just mostly using it as noise so I didnt have to sit in silence

>>72403240
As a man, personally I find any woman that grifts off pure misogynyists like >>72403417 to be evil for essentially being sex traitors and selling out other women for profit, but just them. It's why I can't watch any GFE or idol-adjacent corpos like Hololive. Most indies and small corpos are fine.

>>72403498
>family friendly corpo

>>72403565
Impressive bait

>>72398808
Subhumans like the (insert chuba name here) virus accounts, itoridayo, and neuronactivation have fostered an insufferable culture of attention whoring that has done nothing but make the community fucking insufferable.

>>72403416
I used to think I had an oshi, but that was before actually finding out what it could be like. Now nobody else even comes close so you are 100% correct. Maybe an that's an unpopular opinion, but only because fans have no idea what it means since they haven't found one yet.

>>72403417
>t. last samurai

Hololive as we know it wouldn't exist without Chinks and EOPs. They saved Hololive when they couldn't compete in Japan.

>>72403629
Family friendly in the sense that I want to get them all pregnant (especially marine cause she's a hag) and start a family with them

>>72403638

"Idol culture" unironically is cringe as fuck and vtubers will never be accepted as long as it is associated with it.

>>72403876
your dumb and gay

>>72398808
Solely focusing on one vtuber is extremely dangerous for mental health. You should watch many different vtubers across different corpos to keep yourself from getting dangerously attached.

>>72398808
I like Tamaki's JP TV style interviews and kikakus. Japanese variety shows are pure soul. (Hate Norio for what she did to her company though)

Corpo worship is extremely cringy and one of the worst parts of vtubing, same with CEO's being a meme or worshipped.

I watch vtubers because I like them, not because of the name they attach themselves to.

>>72398808
I wish there were more chubas that played instruments and did "karaoke" streams playing them. I get singing is part of the gig, but I find it a lot more fun watching a hag like Patra play along to songs that she likes, rather than singing along to the same anime song playlist that everybody has.

I think /vt/ sucks !

>>72404085
Corpo worship is cringe, but a good corpo has a lot of benefits that can make focusing on just one worthwhile. Collabs with other members, new gen hype, events, integration into the corpo’s properties, fandoms, etc. are all huge bonuses.

>>72403876
There wouldn't be any problem with idol culture if the "idols" were worthy of being idolized. Problem is with hiring camwhores and parading them as idols.

Hololive is extremely boring and soulless and could be accurately called the Marvel of vtubers. They are the most corporate thing I've seen in Vtubing, completely sterilized of any possible personality to be a "safe" product with mass appeal.

>>72403654
They're not even the worst, they at least keep it in the comments sections and on their discords.
Much more repugnant are the ones who send superchats to build a collection, like the uwu magic guy or Eating Mike Tyson's Ass. They even get praised for it.

Being cute isn't a point in favor of a chuuba. They're all drawn to be cute by default

>>72404311
I got nothing against corpos themselves, I just really don't like the way the brand brandship itself gets shoved into streams and others things.

>>72404488
Just out of curiosity, who are your favorite vtubers?

>>72404607
You're not asking out of curiosity and we both already know what you're going to say if I answer so I'm not going to play into your expectations.

Phase is for normies and tumblr scum now.

>>72404682
Weird assumption to make, but okay.

>>72404488
There used to be a time when they were fun to watch. Then Coco and her numberfaggotry contaminated the whole company.

>>72403120
>I intentionally give bad advice to 2views to try to make them crash and burn and end up emotionally dependent on me
There are people actually like this. I was watching a 2view play survival horror games and her audio was so bad she would go from like a quiet whispering volume to it being so loud that you instinctively want to throw your headphones. I suggested that she use a compression filter and people in chat including the mods got upset and basically said 'shut up her audio is fine'

>>72404736
Thanks for confirming your dishonest intentions.

>>72398808
Homobeggars should all be hanged.

>>72404778
ni hao

>>72404816
Another weird assumption to make, but okay.

>>72404837
This

>>72404816
NTA but I think you're playing 4D chess with yourself and loosing

>>72398808
My oshi could probably announce that she's married and pregnant & experience virtually no blowback outside of this fucking hell-realm.

>>72398808
Not caring for Kson's content doesn't make you a shitposter or Chinese, and the fact that anybody who isn't a fan is called either is a reflection that her fans can't make a real argument to support her.

>>72404778
cao ni ma

>>72404488
I agree but they're still the best out there

>>72404962
ni hao

>>72404864
>>72404933
>1 minutes apart

>>72398808
I have a couple
People who piss themselves over PL discussion are retards. Not even places like reddit are this sensitive over shit like that and 99.99% of the talents are happy with people sharing it as long as it doesn't bleed into their streams. PL != doxx. Doxx is bad.
Also, tribalism sucks. I don't know how big the ratio is between people who just do it to shitpost and people who are genuine mentally ill tribalfaggots, but this fanbase war trash has only brought the entire industry down.

Suisei is not that good of a singer, she just got chosen as star by PR.

>>72405052
definitely losing

>>72404683
Pippa is finna say trans right any moment now. It's over, brother.

Kson is slowly turning into an ethot because she knows her coombait streams are the only way she'll maintain her current lifestyle.

>>72405209
ni hao

>>72405209
That's most women.

>>72404683
>now

>>72405136
t. samefag
You're so recognizable.

>>72405127
so JP mori?

Reddit tranny mods turned /vt/ into just another subreddit.

>>72401760
Well clearly it is unpopular if anons are seething this much about it.

>>72404977
roru
rumao even

>>72398808
If you anti any vtuber you are mentally ill or a deranged culture warrior and should probably re-examine your life choices.
Also, this board's obsession with numberfaggotry - including stream hours or lack thereof - is baffling. No, streaming longer hours or streaming to more people doesn't make you better.

The tempus collabs with the girls were pretty good streams. Altare is still shit tho and he can rot

>>72405127
I really like Suisei, but I do agree that there are better singers in Hololive. She was likely chosen since she had the most "idol power" out of the group and it was the primary reason she joined Hololive in the first place. I hope that AZKi and Kanata get more spotlight at some point, but I'm glad that Okayu had pretty good success with her album.

Gura saying 'a' wasn't all that funny

>>72400079
This board is actually really tame compared to the rest of the site. A lot of the racism on here isn't uncalled for either since ESL's make up a majority of /vt/'s shitposters. r/VirtualYoutubers may be up to your speed.

>>72405380
Vtubers are the new religion

>>72405380
I just like Big Data and metrics, it has nothing to do with the streamer.

>>72398808
I wish that Holos would stop hiring FAKE TYPE. to write songs for them because the instrumentation always sounds the fucking same.

>>72405209
I think she mentioned once she wont go full combait because her dad disapproves of that. Pretty sure ktherwise she would be doing lesbian JAV streams with that friend of hers.

>>72403240
I don't understand it either and I thought calling men "incel" was a crazy term until I came to this board. I think it's also a symptom of autism; the lack of self-awareness and lack of social cues.

>>72405380
Spoken like a true holodrone. Hope you enjoy paying $399.99 plus tip for ali express merch to support a multimillionare who hates you.

>>72398808
A-Chan is the sexiest Holo girl and needs to do ASMR

>>72405462
ni hao

>>72398953
>ultimatum
lol Gura owns Cover now. They can't do shit to her.

>>72398808
Behind the obvious Nijisanji and its multitude of malignant tumors, Pippa has done more damage to vtubing than anyone or anything else, thanks to attracting a swarm of election tourists and/or dramafaggots that now infest this place and spread out to various other dramafag outlets, because unfortunately /vt/ is the only real place that matters for vtuber discussion. They do not like vtubing, they do not like anime, they do not like japanese culture outside of /pol/ shit, they just want drama and hearing a retard scream about kekistan. Those people were always around, yes, but there is absolutely a difference between pre and post Pippa /vt/, thanks to shit like bvtm, kiwifarms and co., random ESL monkeys that you can inevitably link to being a Pippa fan as soon as you check their profiles, all of their combined raid discords, and even the jannies of this board, who ignore countless schizo anti bait threads and general raids, while they obviously camp Pippa related threads (along with a few other protected entities, obv).

>>72405380
Yes lets allow vtubing to collapse into a lazy grift for amoral whores and support them in every shitty decision and excuse.

>>72405519
Nope, I don't watch Gura. I don't get the board's obsession with her. The only people who should care are chumbuds (lmao).

>>72398808
It's a mystery to me why people who hate women so much are invested in a hobby that is 100% carried by women.

Male vtubers would be a lot less hated if they adhered to the same standards of female idol vtubers.

>>72400079
I don't agree but based for triggering so many people
>captcha: W0AH

>>72405573
Based, Plappa is fucking trash

>>72405714
What are those standards? Acting like whores and milking money from their mentally ill viewers?

>>72405573
This. The amount of times I open a twitter profile when they post some cringy hate shit on a vtuber, and I find them reposting pippa and phase shit is way too high to be a coincidence.

>>72405636
Vtubing is just a medium, just like anime is a medium. There is no overall vtubing culture because no one owns vtubing. However, individual vtubing corpos and communities can develop their own cultures. And nothing about that has really changed.

>>72405348
stop seething

>>72405813
Explain how they act like whores?

>>72404837
Can you read the subject line?

The most entertaining part of vtubing is unironically the drama and shitstorms that ensue due to everyone involved, both fans and chuubers themselves, being socially awkward autists. It's like watching an underground tard fight arena where you cheer no matter which side gets their ass beat.

>>72405573
Yeah the both pippa and her fanbase have a real waft of superiority that I don't get. So many threads get invaded by phase connect anons proclaiming their corpo is better for this or that reason.

>>72399286
>>72399395
>Talks about fans being retarded
>Fan fails at reading and thinks they're talking about the vtubers

>>72405813
Example of this? I said "female idol vtubers". If that's what you think of when that term is mentioned, you need to look at yourself.

>>72398953
rumao
Gura career is no longer to be a streamer, she's a mascot
When she streams, is just out of goodwill

>Keyfabe is good but always being 100% on character is boring

>>72405380
>I may think I'm in a real relationship with a vtuber who in reality doesn't even know I exist but ur da one who is mentally ill
Okay retard, now go back to /shon/. No one cares about antis besides faggot white knights who think it's their sworn duty to protect their favorite vtumor from online criticism that in all likelihood they won't ever read.

Not sure how unpopular this is as an opinion, but it certainly seems unpopular as a practice.
I prefer to watch gaming streams as VODs rather than live, that way I can watch at 1.3x speed and skip ahead if the vtuber gets stuck or talks about something idgaf about.

I think unicorns are retarded and should all kill themselves. Imagine limiting your oshi in the content she can make and the people she can talk to just because you're a socially maladjusted pissbaby who can't understand that she's not your girlfriend

>>72399807
Yeah, most of self-declared unicorns /here/ are just trolls that spam ai generated images

>>72398808
I think a good percentage of Holomem who avoid males do so out of fear of their fans and backlash which isn't based, just sad.

>>72398808
I don't believe there are any real "sisters" on this board, just baiters.

>>72406520
post your channel, bro

>>72406680
We both know I'm just going to send you towa baby

>>72399251
This. It honestly pisses me off the girls very clearly know this yet pretend everyone here's just to chill. They know damn well where 80% of their wealth comes from they're doing in this business. They'd easily pull up the "idk what ur talking about stop being creepy" shield alongside the free accompanying meatshield of whiteknights, and get away with it, but they'd STILL never admit to having a bf and say it as it is once and for all. Even if it would easily allow them to create the environment they would have you believe to want. No, they know very well the sentiments behind 80% of the money in this business, their own wealth even that they so shamelessly eat good with every day. And they can keep raking it in if they just never address it, and thus create this ambiguous air that keep the brainwashed simps thinking maybe just maybe there's a non-zero chance...

They found an exploit for getting to have their cake and eating it too, and are milking the hell out of it.

>>72406047
>Shaking their asses and spreading their legs on 3D streams
>Talking about their ideal men
>Talking about their panties
>Talking about how horny they are
>Marine
>Constant coomerbaiting
>>72406210
You obviously meant Hololive. Nobody on this board watches vtubers who actually try to behave like idols.

>>72406664
It's a mix of both.

>>72399150
you're not wrong.

>>72400079
At least it's mostly done in good fun here, and it's honest.

Infinitely better than the redditumblr brand of racism, which is white people seething with racial hatred at their own kind, but they are too weasely to even admit it.

Once that culture starts to die out, this place will get less racist in return.

>>72398808
Unpopular /vt/ opinion.
I think vtubers are... pretty good.

>>72398953
Gura's design is so iconic that art of her is even popular with normies who have no idea what the fuck a vtuber is. Her merch alone makes cover a shit load of money.

She's literally so big that Cover is obviously letting her do whatever she wants to keep her in the company.
Why?
cause Cover knows Gura leaving or getting terminated would do huge damage to the brand, arguably unfixable damage

>>72398808
If you use the chuuba gf vtuber experince to then relate to a real gf, you are a probably emotionally stunted but that's okay

>>72400079
Now that's how you do it

>>72405888
You talk like a jew

>>72406839
The audacity of this cunt. Take that back you filthy anti cumsucking whore. How fucking dare you like and unabashedly enjoy anything on the internet these days. You absolute piece of filth. I hope you and your oshi get hit by good wishes and smiles for many many years

>>72398808
"Unicorns" are sad little faggots who are actively detrimental to the mental health of the girls they cyberstalk.

>>72403876
Why do you want vtubers to be “accepted”? Did Jock give you a swirly for watching them?

>>72400079
You're right. If flags were ever implemented, I am willing to bet that most of the shitposters are American or European and not the SEA boogeyman they like to claim.

>>72406364
It's the difference between a guy who dumps a woman and moves on vs a guy who spends all his time seething at a woman he already dumped.
Antis never shut up and they think the rest is us care about their oneitis.

>>72407261
Mexican*

>>72406178
>Fan fails at reeding humor

>>72407245
Because the largest vtubers can barely pull 10k on a good day, while streamers like xqc or asmongold are making millions with ten times that ccv

>>72407455
How are EOPs this retarded?

>>72407261
All you have to do it take a look at what happens when vtuber threads pop up on /pol/ or /sp/. Americans, Euros (especially French and Germans), Brazilians/Argentinians, and north Africans are the biggest antis.

>>72407516
You have no power here, SEAnigger

>>72407546
>especially French and Germans
Should have dropped the bombs.

>>72398808
/vt/ and the community in general would vastly improve if everyone who complained about "unicorns" or "homobeggars" all killed themselves.
Two groups of people who care more about pure ideology and winning Internet battles than vtubers. Rangeban them from all boards except /v/ where they can discuss Twitter celebrities to their hearts' content.

>>72398808
I had sex with the oshi of the person reading this post.

>>72408092
I knew it. I'm going to kill all 3 of us tonight.

>>72404962
being told chang makes you boil and cry like a bitch (your comment here is proof of that)
I don't see why stop.

>>72408162
I was prepared for this. Who's your oshi?

>>72406520
BASED

>i don't see why stop

>>72405008
>>72408189
Kson is a 3 view now you're telling me Coco only had 999 non-chinese fans?

>>72400079
>an actual unpopular opinion that made anons rabid
Congrats you won this thread

>>72399656
Ally & Sally are wonderful, beautiful people. You are instantly blown the fuck out. If I were across the table from you at a dinner party I would throw my drink at your face and call your mother a whore.

/vt/ is just a proxy thread for /v/

Yeah it's technically a contaiment board split from /jp/ which funny enough is also a containment split board itself lol
but vt as a whole shares alot more culture and users with /v/ than any other board.

Post a vtuber in /a/, 99% most anons there wont give a shit and go back to seething Frieren or something.

Post a vtuber on /v/, you get a thread filled with anons who suspiciously know all the memes and tribal stuff from /here/.

Food for thought.

>>72408531
I think /a/ just has a different demographic. Most of their posters are from Mexico and Brazil, while most of the people on /v/, /vg/, and /vt/ are from SEA.

>>72400079
I'm tired of ESL's being able to pretend like they aren't brown little monkey's trying to write Shakespeare. I will never write in a foreign language until I am absolutely certain I won't come across like one of these embarrassingly trite little faggots.

>>72406541
Elaborate further. Name some names. Which girls that haven't already male collabed do you think secretly want to? Which males do they secretly want to collab with?

>>72407002
Shiori is the poster girl for Mentally unstable women who need fixing on tiktok now lol
Its so funny seeing people who don't know what a vtuber is, posting pic related with a caption that says something along the lines of "I can fix her" or "I need a girl like this to ruin my life"

>>72399117
skill issue, you comment is just boring then

>>72398808
I genuinely think Kotoka played a role in Mel's termination. Her tweeting that she had nothing to do with it immediately after it happened without even expressing any form of sadness for the situation is a red flag to me.

>>72398808
I think a lot of the "CGDCT" holos actually are disgusted by most men, especially socially maladjusted male streamers, and use the unicorns as a shield for their unironic misandry despite hating their own fans. They're not afraid of their fans, they never give a shit about upsetting them and respecting them when it comes to other stuff like actually streaming, they're just actual misandrists.

>>72398808
I wish Love Live capitalized before the EN vtuber boom and got into the industry to spread it further domestically.

>>72398953
NO BRO YOU DONT GET IT SHES BACK FOR REAL THIS TIME AAAAAAA

>>72408317
>literal rent free
kek

this really is proof that the ksonschizo lurks every thread

>>72410268
Or just has a scraper set up to trigger alerts at her mention. That's what the other famous schizos do at least.

>>72398808
I think ALL holos should have sex with me.

Most of the JP songs sound alike, except those that are meant to be catchy.... then are more childish.

>>72408212
What does it matter you mother fucker

>>72411108
Think of it this way, sapling. While I have sex with Fauna, you can play with auntie Risu!

Holo 3D lives are boring and extremely uncreative. The choreography is boring, the singing is fake, the song choices are always the same, there's barely any attempts of utilizing the virtual aspect of the medium. It's even worse when you take into consideration that most of it is pre-recorded.
I sometimes wished they would just stream normally instead wasting the time and money on the 3D lives.

>>72398808
I think boys are cute.

>>72398808
This board is full of unicorns and tribalfags schizos who only enjoy their generals but they actually killed /vt/ because now you're banned for nothing, joking about a chuba or dehumanizing black people (also known as niggers) while it's obviously the purpose of 4chan, having fun.
During dramas like Selen sunking the yacht and Russia's wedding going public, those motherfuckers finally left the board and we were happy again, like one year ago before retarded parasocial freaks took the power here.
Because yeah I have another take which is that if you're desperate enough to cope with your loneliness (and if you're lonely, it's probably because you're uninteresting or a piece of shit) by convincing yourself a grievous woman you've never meet can be your girlfriend (she wouldn't even if she saw you IRL anyway) because you gave her money, then maybe you're a pathetic fuck and deserve to be despised by society (this "maybe" is sarcastic, because I'm sure of it).
Hear me out, normies are shit but being a schizo deluded loser who never washes isn't better.
Although I sleep peacefully knowing 99% of these human garbage will never transmit their defective genes.

>>72398808
Some anon here had a take :
/vt/ has gathered most of the simps of 4chan, which cleaned the other boards from them, we just call them unicorns, today.
I'm not sure if it's true or not but I like the idea since they naturally and unconsciously did that.

>>72407002
not really that bad of a damage to cover if they decided to retire gura, the jp branch has tons of talents that can replace her as the mascot.

>>72413505
Why would they ever need to retire Gura? Even if they want to replace her as a mascot they don't need to do anything to Gura.

>>72398953
Get fucked cumchub