/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She said that herself, some people just would rather live in denial.

buy an ad

>>72311258
FPBP

That's fine. I wonder what she's gonna do to pay the bills though.

Yagoo please save her....

https://files.catbox.moe/44cfyl.m4a

I can understand if she doesn't want to.Kinda sad, though. She was the only reason I ever clicked on the NijisanjiEN videos.

To be honest, I think at this point I'd rather she didn't come back, can't help but think if she does, she'd inevitably be exposed as one of the abusive piece of shit livers in the rainbow corp.

I mean she seemed to keep pretty clean in Niji but in retrospect she seemed so friendly and affectionate to so many awful people. Despite her being my first oshi its really hard for me to buy into all the cope about her being a mediator between the clique and the other livers or whatever.

Did everyone forget that there is a waiting period before she can join another company? I'm not saying she will come back, I'm just saying that it still may be premature to say she is gone for good

>>72311884
>She redebuts in VShojo as a pair - with Elira.

So let me get this stragiht, you niggas think this girl, is gonna give up on the Vtubing thing, which pays way more than a doctor and get back into the workforce?? are you guys retarded or something? I swear to god you're as annoying as those faggots who thought Pikamee was retiring too.

>>72311884
She's already been gone longer than Mysta was

>>72312087
I fucking hate you.

>>72311188
She's doing her thing and seems to be having fun

>>72311188
Mata's planning an mgs playthrough with some girl named deerskin soon

>>72311188
she fucking graduated. how much more clear can you be?

Pomu can whip me again if she joins VAllure!

>>72311884
>>72312143
She's still in Japan, and doesn't even have her computer with her. There was never any possibility that she was gonna be vtubing during her trip, even if there's no problem with her nijisanji contract.
We'll see what she'll do once she goes home.

>>72311705
She'll defend the clique members since she might be one of them in the first place unknowingly. Until selen's attempt happened that traumatized her probably, but why is she not angry though is there guilt or something else.

>>72312517
She did do a cover dance just now on YouTube though.
Maybe she will return or become fleshtuber

>>72312143
Mysta and Nina joined a western company, they felt no need to stick to their non-comp. If one were to join a Japanese company it would make more sense to stick to the letter of the Japanese contract, for propriety's sake.

The reason she didn't want to "reincarnate" was because of sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome. Even when Niji pushed her beyond the breaking point she still couldn't admit to herself that the problem was always NIJISANJI so she brainwashed herself into thinking she was "just tired of vtubing" in general or that "nobody would want to see her" as indie.
She is a coward through and through.

>>72311188
Remind me who that is/was, again?

I think Pomu will come back sometime this year. It's Minka that's definitely gone for good. Everything about her was rooted in a desire to find a sugardaddy that would take care of her forever as she served the housewife role. For Minka to leave vtubing, she must have found her sugardaddy.

>>72312129
>are you guys retarded or something?
The fact that you need to ask this means you're just as retarded as the people you're responding to, of course they're retarded.

>>72311884
Pomu is likely going to audition for HoloEN so way too many anons keep thinking of livers that switched over to VShojo. If HoloEN gen 4 debuts and her RM is still missing that will be the sign that she has completely left the vtuber industry.

Good

>>72316027
Why would that be good?

>>72316081
For her sake, if indeed she was serious about staying away.

>>72311188
She is joining hololive. Guaranteed.
This isn't a shitpost. This isn't cope. This isn't some gay rumor, it's literally what is happening.

She's not going back to retail, she's not joining some shitty knock off company like Vshitshow where the rest of the nijirejects ran to, she left nijien to join Hololive. She got some reassurances from Kiara as well as some help and now she'll sit in the background until the next wave drops, which is why you won't hear much from her until then.

I'm telling you now, this is not some dumb rrat, it's 100% happening.
Joining vshitshow is instant gratification with piss poor longterm results. Joining hololive is the opposite. Pomu knows what she's doing, hololive is her dream and she'll achieve it.

Good, fuck Luca's cocksleeve

>>72315815
If she is trying for HoloEN it will likely be months, maybe a year before we find out since Cover tends to drag it's heels on debuting new gens.

>>72316434
>she was flirting with a roleplaying hag the whole time
kino...

She's back at the office.

>>72316217
The only thing worrying about Pomu getting into HoloEN is the bottom feeders that will cling onto her. Quinn and Matara already leech off her, how much worse would it get if she makes it into Hololive? Nevermind the rest of the people she worked with in NijiEN.

>>72316217
This was her original plan, but after she got to Japan she didn't like the new "school" that she went and saw. So she's more lost now than she was originally.

>>72316716
I strongly doubt it. Pomu's going to want a clean break. She was a team player. She knew the culture Nijisanji want to mix collabs. She may very well be different in Hololive

>>72311188
And it’s all Niggersanji’s fault.

>>72316217
>She is joining hololive. Guaranteed.
cover: "NO"
when you retards will finally realise that cover are not interested with these ex niji garbage,whether they are actually tainted or not it doesnt matter,because cover are more interested looking for open audition searching for ppl like biboo actual 2 view that is an actual gem.

>>72316963
Based subhuman, lacks critical information.

>>72317066
>Based subhuman, lacks critical information
wtf critical information? anyone with 39IQ which is nijinigger IQ can see and connect the dot that as "professional" pomu networking with kiara,but she didnt get in,why? simple,you look at any ex corpo with established fanbase go to cover that already big? instead they are looking at wabyuu/biboo who i guarantee 95% ppl here dont know her,yet no one,not a single ex niji en garbage go to holoEN,cover are not interested.

>>72317211
HOLY ESL

>>72317211

>>72317211
>ESL

>>72311258
>>72311285
She did not say anything of the sort you fucking retards

>>72316434
Kiara's not gonna like you anymore if you badmouth her other friend behind her back like that, Millie

>>72314355
The fact that she spoke up about the trauma she went through with "her previous employer" (obviously Nijisanji) already shows that she's taking steps to recovery. The first step to recovery is to admit that there is a problem. Her idol oshi, the dogs, Kiara, and likely many other people behind the scenes managed to get through her thick skull. And after she recovers, all that's left to do is wait for her inevitable reincarnation.
For fuck's sake, she constantly did Twitter spaces. No way i'm buying that the girl still doesn't enjoy streamjng.

>>72318292
Pomu also seems to love the parasocial connection with her fanbase, since she couldn't stay away from the internet for long.

>>72313815
>Until selen's attempt happened that traumatized her probably
Or maybe she's named in the document and now she's very worried Selen will go public with it.

>>72318689
>maybe
Fuck off. You're supposed to argue with facts

>>72318689
Considering how close Selen was to Pomu it does not seem likely at all, this rrat is incredibly bizarre. Elira listed herself, Millie, and Enna in the doc, and those people weren't as close like Pomu was.

>>72318785
Sir, this is /vt/
>>72318868
Elira said there were other names too, she just didn't name them. "Several livers" she said, maybe one of them was Selen's friend-bully, a prime mover in Selen's toxic friendship if you will. She just didn't get to read the document when she was in Nijisanji, only after she left did someone gave it to her.

>>72318689
RELEASE THE SEXTAPES

>>72319085
So there's no indisputable proof that Pomu was named in Doki's document? Naruhodo.

>>72319085
IIRC she just said the doc had "personal claims about some livers personal information which is simply untrue". Not several, otherwise the entirety of NijiEN would've been at risk. Doesn't really seem like Pomu was ever insinuated though.

>>72319085
...Why would she even get the document? She wasn't in the company anymore.

However, selen's termination DID happen after she left the company. If she had no contact with Selen on official channels, it's possible that she had no idea what was actually going on until she was already out there. Especially if she had a habit of internalizing blame and hate in order to not worry people.

>>72317211
Eigo onegai

>>72318292
It's also important to remember she was in Niji for nearly 3 years and it's been like two/threeish months since she graduated? Give the girl some time damn

she doesn't deserve to come back, the fact that the dogs hang out with this whore only casts doubt on their character

>>72319365
We don't have confirmation for anything. Even people blaming the trio are reaching.
>>72319559
Some livers anon, people focused on Elira, Enna and Millie because those names were drop, but "some livers" means other people as well. Other people...like Pomu!
>>72319752
Doki said it was issue that piled up over time, also anon, think about it.
>Pomu is planning to graduate
>Selen tries to an hero in late December
>OH SHIT!
>Pomu starts pulling favors and connections
>graduation is moved to January (after the attempt) so she can be /out/ before shit blows up
Pomu's graduation was her pulling every string she has before the situation exploded. The reason Pomu did it so that none of it sticks to her. The work of a mastermind, no, the work of THE mastermind.

>>72320153
>Other people...like Pomu
>We don't have confirmation for anything.
Even people blaming the trio are reaching
Then how about you shut the fuck up and stop slandering Pomu, you putrid cunt

>>72320153
Holy headcanons Batman. She delayed graduation to fulfill her performance in NijiFes or it likely would have been sooner.

>>72320153
Yeah, nah. Signs of Selen's degradation were as early as late 2021. Pomu and Selen started getting close long after debut, too. I don't know or care how close they really were, but Pomu has a history of being adjacent or oblivious to Elira's bullshit.

>>72320153
I strive every day to manifest 1% of the delusion this post exudes.

>>72320153
>Pomu starts pulling favors and connections
You mean the same "favors and connections" that gave her a shitty 3D model that was not fixed for a year, no Home3D for a year, denied projects, denied her idol group collab opportunity, cancelled her 3D studio reservation, denied her invite to be in Kiara's 3D birthday live, gave permission to cover a song and then block it right before release and never fix the permission after 2 years despite JPs being sponsored to sing the same song?

>>72311188
Ano, our hope and evidences are at an all time high

>>72311705

"The clique" is just a rumor at this point. I don't understand why it is taken as fact. All the pieces fit for it to work, but there hasn't been any actual evidence.

Truth is that we don't KNOW the inner workings inside the company. All we know is that they were bad enough to drive Selen into multiple attempts and bad enough for Pomu to want to leave. We also know that Elira, Vox, and Ike are deep in it enough to attach their names to a smear campaign against an ex-colleague that tried to commit suicide.

We don't ally KNOW anything else. It's all rrats with no proof.

Pomu isn't great at acting. She wears her heart on her sleeve. The people who genuinely think she's is a shitty person behind the scenes have clearly never watched her.

>>72320326
>>72320383
>>72320456
>>72320480
>>72320522
>I now have to use /s for 4channers to realize I'm making a joke
Absolutely GRIM. I don't know how more over the top I have to make something like that for people to just have some fun.
What happened to you people?

>>72320731
The difference is that NijiEN's fanbase genuinely thinks like this.

Goddamn this thread reads like a typical Nijinigger crab bucket zone.
Hey, at least you Pomudachis have an oshi that performs well as Tenchou's side chick.

All of you. Meds. Now.

>>72320731
>unironically using "i was only pretending to be retarded" to escape scrutiny
Nah, you're not getting away that easily. Is this >>72318689 also you? Was that also a joke? It's not very funny at all.

>>72311188
I think she will but it wont be for a while She should have reincarnated right after graduation, but now the general climate is such a drama shitstorm she is better off laying low until it dies out.

>>72320731
The other night I argued with a sister that was so stupid my thoughts just stopped working.
I was trying to pick her brain to see if I could get where her thoughts were coming from, but all I could get from her is "Doki was jealous of the others' success." and "Doki is a psychotic menhera who wants to betray her friends for money."

>>72320896
>unironically using "i was only pretending to be retarded" to escape scrutiny
I have "Sir, this is /vt/" and a spoiler to not trust rrats in messages where I wove stuff out of pure imagination.
> Is this >>72318689 (You) also you?
Do you consider having the ability to follow a direct chain of quotes some kind of a superpower? Of course that's me.
Holy shit dude.

She said she has trauma and doesn't know what to do in the last twitter space
Staying away from vtubing may be the best choice for her

>72321179
Jesus fucking christ dude. Is farming (You)s from upset Pomudachi really that important to you? How fucking fried are your dopamine receptors? Our oshi is fucking traumatized and is at a loss of what to do, many of us are lost and confused as well, while at the same time having to fend off rabid sisters that try to peddle the rrats that she is a terrible person behind the scenes. We're fucking paranoid, and you think it's funny? For fuck's sake...
I hope your oshi joins Nijisanji and stays there until she dies of old age, you fucking asshole.

>>72321823
Your oshi is bouncing around Akihibara, groping idols, crashing maid cafes and making dance videos with her friends, while having record breaking twitcasts. Cool down your saviorfag receptors, she's doing fine.
>Jesus fucking christ dude. Is farming (You)s from upset Pomudachi really that important to you?
I'm trying to have some fun on 4chan with posts you're not supposed to freak out over.

Why would anyone want to come back to the vtubing community. Its a shithole.

>>72311188
who is she again?

>>72320006
Nijisanji broke her passion for vtubing due to its toxicity. This period is a great time for her to heal before she steps back in. It also helps she is visiting everyone and getting a good idea of how people are holding up in the profession.

>>72320731
Blame Nijiniggers for shitting on Pomu and using her as deflection. Your 'joke' has already been used before to shit on Pomu.

>>72311188
She's free to do whatever the fuck she wants.

>>72313922
She's got a fat ass, jesus christ she should start an OF

>>72311188
shut up Pomu and do as your oshis tell you

>>72311188
I'm not cumming on her back. I'm cumming inside her hag womb and fertilizing those few remaining eggs of hers and starting a wonderful family life with her.

>>72316217
She already got a massive resume to apply to Hololive plus Kiara and Fuwamoco's nepocards (apparently). I believe it

It'll be hilarious to see Hololive poaching yet another talent like Luna

>>72316217
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>72317211
True
She won't be in holo, they should accept that fact instead of being a delusional. The hiring criteria by holo management are to isolate the new talents from communicating with other holo(including their rm), this was said by mori herself when she got stop by management from contacting advent.

>>72327854
You are not and never will be Cover staff. Stop babbling bullshit.

Pomu joining VShojo is going to be so much more fucking funny than Nina or Pikamee. People already try to deny that there were countless threads begging for them before they appeared in VShojo but it's so much more fucking prevalent with Pomu. I await the day eagerly.

>>72328087
i'm looking forward to that pomudachi faggot who antis kson for some reason to finally kill himself
it will be great

>>72311188
got traumatized into quitting
https://streamable.com/nobw3p

>>72321823
I hope she lets you down in the worst way!

>>72328506
I knew she was a good person

>>72328506
>She said this after ghosting Enna and Millie

>>72311705
agree with this 100%, all of her behavior post-Niji and her vague silence/distancing from the situation + continuing to associate (in person) with the the known worst members suggest that it's the case
everything fits into place if you assume she's also guilty and her behavior lines up perfectly with how someone who was guilty would act; people are just in denial because 'she was one of the good ones' was a strongly held belief for a long time and because her meek/sweet personality doesn't intuitively make you think she could be a bad person
>>72320617
>The people who genuinely think she's is a shitty person behind the scenes have clearly never watched her.
confusing 'has a timid/meek well meaning personality' with 'must be a good person' is a mistake I've seen many people make in my own interpersonal life over the years
it's entirely possible for someone to not have the demeanor and intentions of a typical bad person and even for that person themselves to fully believe they are doing nothing wrong while still being bad
if you associate with bad people, support them regularly and co-sign all of their bad behavior and stand by and let it happen then you are basically also a bad person by extension

Even without the GURRAT/'the clique' it's still where Pomu knew abuse to Selen was happening and did nothing, it's still where she said nothing after the fiasco went down, it's still where she continued to hang out with people like Elira who slandered Selen afterwards
the fact that she's still never denounced anything, never interacted with Doki and hanged out in person with anti-Selen nijis afterwards says it all and can't be argued against

good

>>72328087
I dunno... I get your point and I genuinely expected Pomu joining vshojo but seeing Matara and Kuro getting all friendly with Quinn gives me a bad vibe, maybe I'm overthinking.

>>72328879
You're suffering from rrat poisoning.

>>72327764
I hate the idea of Doki being caged again in a japanese corpo, but honestly she'd probably thrive in there with Pomu. She seems super adaptable too.
Best case scenario she becomes a major orbiter of HoloEN with tons of frequent collabs, but who knows...

>>72328901
No. Quinn is a disgusting subhuman piece of filth and even his dwindling audience is hopefully taking the hint.
Him being involved with Matara at all sours me on her and brings real credence to the idea that Matara's fine with evil cliques... as long as she's part of it.
Pomu meanwhile has far, far too much goodwill to be burned with shitty rrats.

>>72329064
rrat poisoning. THat's all it is anon. Touch grass. These people are friends. You've read too many rrats from too many untrustworthy people. Pomu and Mata are still friends despite this aren't they? Do you hate Pomu too? Or are you going to realize that maybe the narrative /vt/'s been peddling for years now isn't entirely rooted in reality.

>>72328087
We win either way.
>Pomu goes to Vshojo
No need to explain further, it would be legendary
>Pomu goes to Hololive
Guaranteed more vshojo-holo collabs and seeing holotribalists infighting will be entertaining
>Pomu goes indie
Strong + and the chance that she joins in the future keeps living

>>72328835
> all of her behavior post-Niji and her vague silence/distancing from the situation
She was the first to react when Selen was terminated, has never mentioned Niji again and she told the story about the other Pomu working for a black company where talents harassed other talents
>+ continuing to associate (in person) with the the known worst members suggest that it's the case
Proof? Are you talking about Matara? She was just the other day complaining about notPomu stopping hanging out with her.

>>72329132
See, that'd make sense if I didn't see the fallout with my own eyes. Fuck off, sister. Here's your (you).
You people are a plague. I cannot fucking wait for that branch to finish burning to the ground.

Doki, Pomu, hell even Elira are trying to move on. The situation is over. Everyone involved is moving on and so should (You).

>>72329274
>Proof? Are you talking about Matara? She was just the other day complaining about notPomu stopping hanging out with her.
Wait, are you serious? Timestamps? This actually sounds fucking huge

>>72328835
>it's still where Pomu knew abuse to Selen was happening and did nothing
Proof?
>it's still where she said nothing after the fiasco went down
But she did. Twice, even.
>it's still where she continued to hang out with people like Elira who slandered Selen afterwards
Proof?
>never interacted with Doki
Doki is a Vtuber who doesn't do any flesh content. Pomu is not a vtuber and has only interacted with people who have been to Japan the past 2 months.
>and hanged out in person with anti-Selen nijis afterwards
Proof?

>>72329325
Think again bud. I'm a VShojo watcher. I've seen rrats form over the people I enjoy watching for 4 years now. If you don't treat literally every single thing said here without definitive proof as likely untrue or misrepresented then you've got a case of rrat poisoning.

>>72329373
she was joking, it was like "I went to karaoke but nerd didn't want to join me, hmph!"
It was a clear Nina style jab and not any sort of real fallout.

>>72329561
Ah, that's fair then. Froot's cute.
Quinn's still a piece of shit and anybody actively trying to help him is likely going to be a problem.

>>72328087
I just want her back, I dont care where

>>72329373
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2081428746?t=3h36m31s
Matara is complaining about notPomu not wanting to go to some parties with her because she had a "headache". Two days in a row. The karaoke she was talking about was full of people that Matara loved, so I can imagine Enna and Millie were probably there.

>>72329561
There's plenty of Vshojos that people blow out of proportion in terms of them being bad like Zen, but their closeness to Quinn/Kyo really is worrying.

>>72329503
it's amazing narratives people believe
The "bullying" shit, if Millie was involved, almost certainly happened while Pomu's ass was halfway out the door considering Millie, Pomu, and Selen all collabed together very shortly before the MV fiasco
Selen has no problem ghosting people she doesn't like, they all tolerated each other well enough until that incident

>>72329662
This is actually pretty interesting if you take into account her twitter space from yesterday >>72328506 and the nerd not joining Kiara when she had the dinner with Enna and Millie. It feels like she is distancing herself for real from the Nijis.

>>72317211
nigger, Cover literally already has an ex Niji in Hololive
do your reps before you post your dumb corpo headcanon

>>72321218
She’s probably traumatized because her old nudes got spread everywhere. And her past about how much of a nasty bitch she is did too. Doesn’t seem like Niji did anything to help her get those things taken down either.

>>72329358
>Everyone involved is moving on and so should (You).
Sister, you don't seem to understand how this works. Niji chose to make this matter public, so now we're all involved. It's cool that Elira wants to ignore this whole fiasco, but she better to be ready to give some explanations when she decides to come back.
>inb4 she doesn't owe us any explanations
Again, they were the ones who decided to involve us in this mess. You can't open the pendora box and then act surprised when it bites you in the ass.

>>72329561
I'm also going to add in people who don't watch streams because >>72329662 people are already reacting to this and suddenly nobody bothered to listen past 10 seconds because immediately after complaining about Pomu not being able to join that night she then talks about future planned trips with her.

Deerskin just might have too much baggage for Hololive to hire her. She's too well-connected to dramawhores, menheras and vtubers with shitty reputation.

>>72330155
>because immediately after complaining about Pomu not being able to join that night she then talks about future planned trips with her.
...and? I'm sure that Matara wants to keep being friends with Pomu forever. That doesn't mean that Pomu is going to keep hanging out with her if Enna and Millia want to join too.

>>72317211
ESL

>>72329561
Figures you would be a delusional moron who sticks his head in the sand if you actually like Froot.

>>72330331
See that's where the rrating comes in. You're creating blanks where none are visible and then filling it in with your own rrat. There's no indication that they've stopped being friends since then. You just want it to be the case because it reinforces your other beliefs.

the absolute state of this luca cumdump copium thread

>>72330148
>us
None of this involves you, you're choosing to make yourself involved

>>72330148
I'm not a sister. I'm just sick of the 'drama' already. It's been what, a month already? It's over. All of this 'war' bullshit with people picking sides is made-up fanfiction. If there was a so-called 'war,' NijiEN already lost by shooting themselves in the face twice, and unlike Selen or Doki, NijiEN doesn’t have plot armor. NijiEN will either pick up the pieces or continue to falter, and that has nothing to do with the Selen situation anymore. Sure, the Selen situation was a catalyst for it happening, but it's moved beyond that now. Move on.

>>72330420
Mata was also in Quinn's lore video and recorded lines for it. Zero percent chance Pomu didn't know about it at the time considering how recent this trip being detailed was.

>>72330420
> You just want it to be the case because it reinforces your other beliefs.
No, it's just a pretty plausible scenario given everything we know so far.

>>72330519
And what do we know? Pomu and Mata are still tweeting to one another within the last 12 hours by the way.

It's pretty funny and sad that people have also decided that Quinn is some kind of irredeemable snake despite his behavior being pretty normal in any other situation, oh nooo he didn't condone Zaion's stupid rape joke, what an evil motherfucker

>>72330561
...and? I don't care about Matara, I'm talking about Enna and Millie. Pomu was just sucking Kiara's cock today, and she ghosted Enna and Millie the other day when they hanged out with Kiara.

>>72330647
Mata is still close with Enna and Millie. Mata is close openly with Quinn. Pomu's still talking to her.

Dramaniggers and Nijisisters move the fuck on already.

>>72330504
Why the fuck would Pomu know anything about, or even care about, Quinn's debut?

>>72330677
...and? Again, she still talking with Kiara. What's your point?

>>72330642
>Aloucuck defending Kyo
Pottery, cucked to death

>>72330773
>Doesn't address anything about Quinn and just calls me a cuck

Typical 50 iq dramashart lol

>>72330476
>I'm not a sister. I'm just sick of the 'drama' already. It's been what, a month already? It's over
Sister, again, it's not over. You don't get to decide when it's over. Elira doesn't get to decide when it's over. They wanted to get us involved because they thought we would be on their side. Too bad, that didn't happen, and now we want some answers and explanations before we can move on for real.

>>72330764
Goalpost moving.
>>72330697
Why would she not? Do you think she's retarded? Mata's a streamer. She was a vtuber and is, in all likelihood, going to continue being one. Do you think Mata would just never once bring it up? Or that she sticks her head in the sand about what's going on, despite talking about the stuff she's seen while attending classes.

>Timelooping
>Dragging others who were not involved in the first place into it
Yep, the situation is over. Move on retards.

>>72330819
>calls me a cuck
Because that's what you are, Ennakek lmao

>>72330831
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>72330831
It's pretty much over Dramanigger. Here is your (You).

>>72330913
>No arguments
I accept your concession

>>72330819
I really don't need to.
As long as he stays too small to hurt anyone important, he's a non issue until he graduates.
Seriously, the man hasn't had a single solo stream since debut. All he does is leech leech leech and it's STILL not working.

>>72330948
>i-i-it's over just move on
>Elira and Vox are still in hiding
lmao

>>72330642
>"Poor aloupeeps always getting cucked"

>>72330831
>we
>we
>we

holy fuck go back to school already underage dramababy

>>72330962
What is left to argue about retard. You're just beating a dead horse.
>>72331019
Exactly, NijiEN lost. Move on.

>>72330642
>>72330677
Are people literally using Quinn "all my streams have been shitting on Niji" as a way to defend this argument now?
Pomu is not taking sides and not caring cuz Pomu is thinking of her future. If she was not interested in Vtubing anymore she wouldn't try avoiding doxxing so hard.
Attract any drama and her dozen open doors close immediately. The sis here are desperate all their branch plans failed and are trying to stir drama so that the industry goes in lockdown.
Too bad it's not working. Kiara got told to stay in Austria and tweet call Mumei specifically to prove there is no drama going.

Best part is...99.9% Doki has told their friend to not stir drama too and not fuck with their carrers over her situation. Holo vs Niji would not extend only to EN and JP would become a massive drama shit that is not looked well over there, damaging the entire industry.
NijiEN is not gonna be saved by a tweet from Kiara or the sis being permanently /here/. It's already a massive meme in the west, and the investors in JP are shortselling to the ground waiting for Riku to show a ghost of a plan.

>>72330476
I still want to know what the fuck happened, but I'm willing to let shit go if the sisters just cut their losses and leave doki/sayu alone. Everything that's happened to Nijisanji has just been their own fault, so I don't know why they keep trying to smear everyone else in shit too.

>>72328940
What makes you think any japanese company would ever hire her? lmao
Even before this bullshit she was knows to be a bitch to work with, do you think Japan of all places wants to hire people like that?

>>72331062
>What is left to argue about retard. You're just beating a dead horse.
There's a lot left to argue, actually. We don't really know anything.

>>72331011
Holy shit he just debuted and he is already 1k, even Kuro had 3k+ for a whole month. I guess he wasn't that popular there?

>>72330642
He fucking doxxed her, you twat

>>72331165
Just let the Nijisisters and Dramanigger be. Let them have their little corner on the internet. Doki and Sayu are doing just fine and are in a better place. In other words much happier. The best thing you can do now is support them.

>>72331192
>A bitch to work with
I love how she was the best Niji defender in December, but now the sis have unanimously decided that all that is to be scrapped to not damage their sanity.
Best part she and Pomu are basically the ONLY 2 ex-Niji who have not take turns kicking the company after leaving. She even made a point that JP corpo are good for certain people but not for her.

The problem is that the sis can't accept her drama is done and Niji is self-inflicting all the wounds, because that would make the company ineptitude their enemy and that's not acceptable.

>>72331192
>she was knows to be a bitch to work with
Proof? Everyone always talked about how she was a wonderful coworker.

>>72331253
No. Every fucking stream looks like this. he gets boosted because the collab people join in at the start, then they all realize he's complete dogshit and leave slowly, with raids occasionally topping him off. If the collab partner ever leaves, his ccv PLUMMETS by up to 30%.

She is 100% redebuting soon, Kiara is just helping the hype by causing situations that will set the rrats crazy (meeting with Enna, then Mumei, after hanging out with Pomu, etc)

These people know that endless rrats is also free advertising. Hells, this very status was created by either Pomu or Kiara anyway

>>72329064
Isn't it weird how everything points to you people being mentally ill? Surely the rrats must be true, everyone is just a traitor, a piece of shit, a triple-crosser, etc.

It's time to accept you got LARP'd, anon.

>>72331327
Oh, I am. I'm still gonna monitor the shit out of Kyo just in case, though. I never want to get caught off guard by some garbage like that black stream ever again.

>>72329358
>Doki, Pomu, hell even Elira are trying to move on
why do retards keep saying things like this? do concepts like morality and justice not exist in your world?
So fucking what if people like Doki want to move on, that's the morally incorrect thing to do. You're talking about people who bullied a girl to attempted suicide and defend an exploitative company with terrible workplace practices - actually stop and think about the gravity of that for a second.
The guilty people involved should be held accountable and punished regardless of what they or anyone involved wants. Yeah Doki wants to not do anything and move on but she's a naive weak retard who doesn't know what's best

The best case scenario (doesn't seem to be happening now) would be that Doki raped scumfucks like Elira in Canadian court, Niji axed them for costing them so much and they withered into obscurity with their lives and careers destroyed for their sins
second best case scenario (can still happen) Elira and her flying monkeys continued to get righteously harrased until either they buckle and graduate or do some stupid shit in response that gets them terminated - and then they disappear into obscurity, working a shitty retail job forever or something and never heard from again

>>72331436
Kyo can't do shit without the help of a twitter mob.

>>72331192
Yeah, she's such a bitch to work with she just got a fucking Apex sponsorship today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnmg48qcTS8
She's such a bitch to work with that companies burned bridges with a billion dollar corporation just to take her side.
She's such a bitch to work with that nobody outside of Nijisanji has ever had a single complaint about her, while people are climbing over each other to earn her favor.
She's such a bitch to work with that Kanae gave her a fucking expensive necklace off his body as a spur of the moment gift since she was so nice to him.

>>72331374
What do you mean "proof"? She had issues with her manager/company like every three months, very publicly.

>>72311884
Even if we're extra generous to Nijisanji and assume that her non-compete is valid and enforceable, it's only for six months. Which means it expires on either July 20 (six months) or July 18 (if the contract specifies "180 days" instead of "six months")
Holo EN gen 4 will not debut before then and Niji EN might cease to exist before then so her non-compete isn't worth the paper it's printed on, notwithstanding $4450 jokes.

>>72331552
>You're talking about people who bullied a girl to attempted suicide
Just because you believe it it doesn't mean that it's true. Even doki never said that.

>>72331599
You motherfucker.

>>72329662
>>72329841
>>72328506
wait... hold on a minute
so you mean to tell me that Kiara not only saw all the drama and knew about it but then she also hung out with notPomu and was probablyconfided to about how she was traumatized by being in Niji...
and then she STILL went on to hang out with the nijis afterwards??
this makes Kiara look so much worse in all of this now lmao

>>72331661
Your beloved hololive fired Mel for 0.1% of what Doki did on the regular, do you think they want any of that shit?

Good. She ditched her friend and abandoned everything instead of telling Elira to chill the fuck out. Also metal gear is mid and her metal gear arc was cringe. Kojima should be publicly hanged for crimes against gaming.

>>72321218
Stay away and do what?

>>72331697
Because Kiara actually knows what "happened", she doesn't give a fuck about what the mob believes.

>>72311705
you dokifags are pathetic. you honestly, truly believe that EVERY other liver and all of management is bad and out to get her, and Selen was the one pure beacon of light? isn't it far more likely that everyone else is right and she's just a deranged troublemaking schizo?

>>72331697
Or you could take Occam's Razor and admit Doki fucked up a lot and none of the 500+ members of the clique are actually bad people.

>>72331655
Niji said the livers were involved in their own official statement AND people like Elira and Millie were named in her legal documents AND they felt the need to slander her in response as if they were being targeted - what the fuck else could this mean other than that they were involved?
Stop coping; the fact that Doki never went to bat for them afterwards or clarified 'hey guys they weren't involved' or anything like that proves it

>>72331936
this, she actually has direct access to multiple people who know and probably have receipts of what went on; dramafags don't.

>>72331991
Yeah, that is a fair assessment

>>72331552
You do realize the clique has bitched again and again so much that they have brought it to themselves?
Allow me to give you some real story example: 8 years ago I had someone I though my best friend really, REALLY try to screw me over. For nothing but his personal gain.
I didn't went around screaming at the top of the building he was an ass, I didn't went to all my friends saying to hate him. His action naturally did that for me, until he had to completely change his life and rebuild it elsewhere. We are not friends but we don't shoot each other in the street.

Doki is having the time of her life, she got SPONSORED by Reflex and this means EA behind it, but you are not gonna see Niji being banned from playing it unless they self-ban themselves and that will be their net loss.
If she would go trough a whole legal revenge and screaming stuff at the clique, the sponsors would drop because the drama would hit them hard too. If Niji instead tries to hit her, she can just play the "I left you alone" card and see the west rise to astroturf Niji again, a niche market compared to just Apex and I don't even bring in EA into the scope.

Sometimes the best revenge is letting your enemies bleed of their own wounds. Niji could have all along fired a manager and blamed it all on them, all their actions are out of their own making. And coming out of that with a smile and a nice night of sleep is the biggest win ever.

>>72331552
>Yeah Doki wants to not do anything and move on but she's a naive weak retard who doesn't know what's best
The dramafaggot cries out with his final breaths before it all dies

>>72331552
There’s gonna be no justice.
Even if we assume that Elira is guilty of harassment and graduates/gets terminated as a result of this fiasco, her family is rich. She's just gonna mooch off of them again.
And in any case the true justice should be meted out against Niji higher-ups, like Igarashi and Fumoto, the cunts who cultivated the favoritism and the abusive workplace environment like forcing talents and contracted artists to fucking read out a list of their own character faults on a company meeting and social media, fucking deny projects because they benefit competition (Igarashi is part of UMG, while Pomu's dream collab was supposed to be with an idol group that is part of King Records). But they are Riku's personal friends. Riku will terminate Luxiem, Noctyx and 50% of all of JP just to protect them. If any fuckup of theirs gets scrutinized, Riku will be utterly humiliated in billionaire circles and there's no fucking way anyone will ever invest in him again after he golden parachutes from Anycolor.
Rich people never get punished for shit.

>>72331991
the only one saying anyone was involved was a mentally unhinged cunt with an axe to grind and grifting to do. not the most reliable source. Elira and the others simply defended themselves against her baseless accusations

>>72331991
just because someone claims to have been bullied doesn't mean she was actually bullied, even if she attempted suicide over it
and again, she was perfectly happy to collab with Millie all the way up until the end of december. Did Millie suddenly turn evil?

I mean, for all we know maybe Pomu just feels uncomfortable around the NijiEN people. Enna and Millie being named in the black frame stream doesn't necessarily mean that they were directly involved in the bullying, just that Selen had an issue with them at the very end. We know that management used the organs to put some pressure on Selen, so maybe they were part of that.

That would mean that managed "forced" them to harass Selen... but they didn't refuse doing it either. Also, they have never showed any sign of remorse or regret about what happened. In fact, they have acted pretty fucking passive aggressive about it.

I think the bullying was probably a byproduct of a severe mismanaged and toxic workplace, but most of the livers involved are likely awful people too.

>>72331944
>Yes, you have to believe me, the Nijinig!

>>72332083
Stop describing yourself and self-inserting sis. No one did a single liver name before Elira decided it was time to do so.
If she's so innocent, why the 2 month suspension? And don't try to give me the "vacation" excuse, everyone streamed/collabed but her.

Every other company who had similar incident went to bat immediately against their opposition, Niji cowered behind the livers first and then ran to Japan. A multi-billion dollar company.
You don't get better evidence than that of the fact they would lose. They lost hundreds of millions over it, you need to be a special case to believe that was something they wanted to do.

>>72331552
>retard wants to target Elira instead of Niji
>a fucking coomer sperg giving anime speeches about "justice"
>when actual evidence is zero, nada, does not exist
I hope Elira thrives simply so you can stay forever malding.

>>72331599
Huh, weird. And as soon as she went indie, all of those issues of her being hard to work with vanished like a light.
On top of that, she's suddenly in a much healthier mental state, and she's been pumping projects and sponsorships faster in 2 months than the entire branch has in a year, not including herself while she was working for them.
And on top of THAT, you have >>72331582

>>72331944
>you honestly, truly believe that EVERY other liver and all of management is bad and out to get her, and Selen was the one pure beacon of light
nobody is saying this retard, it doesn't have to be where literally all of them are out to get her, some of them in there are probably suffering and being victimized like she was
>>72331960
Occam's razor? You really wanna do that? O then
let's just look at the facts and what we know:
>Japan historically is well known for having shitty workplace practices
>black companies are a well known thing even outside of Japan but especially in Japan
>we know how fucky their terms of service are because we've seen the literal contract
>we know there is a culture of shitalking and gossiping within the culture of NijiEN because of the discord leak about Council
>we know there is a culture of slandering fired employees and vindictiveness towards employees who do anything they don't like from what happened to Zaion
>we know some of the livers were involved because the company itself said they were (when they could have just not done so if it wasn't true) to no benefit to themselves and because Elira and Millie were named in the legal documents - admitted by Elira herself in response
>we know an attempt actually happened because we saw her medical record

looking at all of this, Occam's razor says Doki isn't lying

>>72332268
>Pomu just feels uncomfortable around the NijiEN people
She just doesn't want you people to start harassing her. It's pretty blatant.

>>72332152
Nijisis, you can't even get your arguments straight. The livers can't talk and act freely or not?
If it's the first, then neither could her; if it's the second, they decided to smear her and got astroturfed except by 20 of you over a doxx forum that can barely hold an argument here.

It's over, Niji lost and it's still burning over the fact your arguments have been screamed at a monitor for a month and have never convinced ANYONE. Everyone moved on but you because you can't accept the truth: your company fucked up in every way possible. Even the Japanese are in agreement at this point, you lost even the sharebros.
But don't worry, keep posting here, eventually you will realize how futile if is out of pure mental exaustion.

>>72331582
>Noo, the burned the Niji bridge!
NIJISEETHE

At this point it's just dramafags arguing with each other

>>72332459
This from the people who spam every topic "she must never return to Vtubing otherwise my lazulight dream is ruined", and would actively anti her if she does.
Her true supporters are not on the doxxsite sis, you are not even accepted in Japan anymore as an opinion. Your credibility only went down in 2 months.

>>72332537
Reading comprehension.

>>72332626
>Word I learned on the board, I must be winning right?
Have a (You) of pity over how loud I'm laughing at you.

>>72332268
>I think the bullying was probably a byproduct of a severe mismanaged
See, that's the thing.
That right there is the EXACT thing said in the termination notice.
"harassed by livers due to mismanagement"
Not "bullied by livers.", mismanagement.
But for whatever reason everyone seems to want to drop management from the equation
I wonder why people would do that. Certainly it's not being done by people who support management. Like, say, Nijisisters?

>>72332618
are you ok? what the fuck are you even talking about?

>>72332048
stop insulting the stupid teenagers, bro

>>72332610
Yeah, pretty much. Pomudachis, Dragoons, etc. want to or have moved on.

>>72332268
>Enna and Millie being named in the black frame stream doesn't necessarily mean that they were directly involved in the bullying
retardedsisterchama

>>72332380
>retard wants to target Elira instead of Niji
never said just Elira should be targeted but like >>72332079 says there isn't much that can really be done to affect the actual suits involved
>when actual evidence is zero, nada, does not exist
actual evidence is Niji's own official statement, Elira's video response and her claims in it, Doki's legal documents
keep coping
>a fucking coomer sperg giving anime speeches about "justice"
??? baffling statement
what would being 'a coomer sperg' mean about anything? that you can't have a sense of justice or recognize when obviously bad shit is happening and call it out?
this is just a retarded ad hominem and shows that you've already lost the argument by resorting to it

>>72332459
>"I have found out something about my previous workplace that... I don't know if I can say this... it has given me a little bit of a trauma... right now I... I don't know... maybe I should delete this space later"
No, I'm pretty sure she just feels uncomfortable around the Nijis.

>>72331944
>you honestly, truly believe that EVERY other liver and all of management is bad and out to get her
which is exactly what they are doing? from the termination to the black screen stream its all literally to slander her,but fortunately everyone have more than 39IQ unlike you sister,thats why they failed to slander her,in fact its actually saving sayu at the same time.

>>72332380
I'm perfectly capable at being mad at both, thank you. Granted, management absolutely deserves far more blame than any of the organs, but that doesn't absolve them entirely.
That said, I'd be completely satisfied if the entire fucking branch burned to the ground and took its fanbase with it while Elira and her clique live on to clique again somewhere the fuck else away from my oshi.

>>72311188
6 month gag and noncompete order. Wait until July for actual results.

>>72333005
>actual evidence is Niji's own official statement
The statement >>72332695 that specified it was management fault?
>Elira's video response and her claims in it, Doki's legal documents
That's vague as fuck and if you think the only reason people would be alluded to is because "muh bullies" you've never read a legal document in your life.
>??? baffling statement
I'm saying you're too morally deficient to speak of justice, there's a reason why every society on Earth has created a justice system that protects even criminal from mob justice and vengeful fucks.
>never said just Elira should be targeted
That's a Karen statement, you somehow typed this and thought you were the good guy.

>>72333170
She's leaving Japan very soon. Next week, iirc. Not even necessary to wait that long. If she's smart, she'll wipe her ass with the non-compete agreement and redebuts Mint as soon as she's back on US soil. Multiple people, including her actual idol oshi, already tard wrangled her into accepting that Nijisanji was the problem if her latest twitter space is anything to go by. If she does intend to enter auditions for Holo EN4, that doesn't restrict her from using Mint as her vtuber RM.

Do you guys think she'll come back as Mint, or as a new character?

>>72333429
The noncompete only matters for joining other corpos anyway

>>72333012
>"I have found out something about my previous workplace that... I don't know if I can say this... it has given me a little bit of a trauma... right now I... I don't know... maybe I should delete this space later"
holy shit this is such a damning statement
clique bullying confirmed I guess

>>72333575
If she was smart (and if she is coming back) Sshe would at least get a new model before she returns.

>>72333575
Probably Mint. She and Ayamy recently started following each other on that private account. No reason for them to do that if she was already set on not returning to vtubing.

>>72333699
https://files.catbox.moe/44cfyl.m4a
It's pretty obvious some deep shit happened, and she's reconsidering things.
No way to tell where exactly the rabbit hole for this one would go. Hope she doesn't end up regretting opening this box, though.

I'm sorry to tell you this 4chan anons, but it's pretty obvious that Pomu is already mentally insane. Not psych ward insane, but she's already lost it. She doesn't even know what the fuck she's doing and she's trying to act like she does.

>>72333418
>The statement >>72332695 that specified it was management fault?
there's no contradiction between 'bullying from the livers due to mismanagement' and the livers themselves doing the bullying - it basically just means 'we didn't tardwrangle the livers enough and stop their bullshit' that's what the 'mismanagement' there refers to
also nice job just disregarding the points about Elira and Millie being named in the documents and responding like they were accused, you keep ignoring this part
>That's vague as fuck and if you think the only reason people would be alluded to is because "muh bullies" you've never read a legal document in your life.
ok then Sherlock-sama, give me a more sensible alternate reason why they could possibly have been named in the documents, why they specifically responded to it and co-signed Niji slandering Selen saying she was just lying? (inb4 eh I dunno but trust me it's not relevant to anything just stop speculating because... just don't ok!)
Doki said in her official statement it was due to harrasment - this is corroborated by Niji's own statement and they implicated the livers with them - then said livers responded in a video, on their channel, confirming they were named in the documents for some reason; not hard to piece together what this likely means
also ironically even if we accept that they didn't bully Selen and it was just management - them joining management after the fact to slander Selen with that video itself is them perpetuating harassment against her lmao
>I'm saying you're too morally deficient to speak of justice
ok telepathchama, I kneel to your abilities to mindread the moral character of total strangers through text on a computer screen
>That's a Karen statement
what the fuck does this even mean lol
you don't have any arguments except these retarded ad homs, you lost

>>72333615
LETS GO HOLOLIVE

>>72334189
So we're entering the Punished Pomu arc?

>>72334189
That's just being an adult, anon. Especially an unemployed one.

>>72334189
>doesn't even know what the fuck she's doing and she's trying to act like she does
She should become a political grifter then. She's perfect

>>72333819
>>72333012
this just makes Kiara hanging out with the nijis even more baffling of a decision

>>72334236
>inb4 eh I dunno
But I don't know, you don't know either. That's the crux of the problem, of your moral crusade, it's based on leaps of logic and narratives. Just because you've convinced yourself into believing something, doesn't mean it's true.
>you don't have any arguments except these retarded ad homs, you lost
You argument is "they must be confessing guilt in the black screen, because I feel it", ergo see the first part of this short post.

>>72327764
>She already got a massive resume to apply to Hololive plus Kiara and Fuwamoco's nepocards
Why do people keep forgetting that Fauna has admitted to being a Pomudachi? Yeah, they're not friends, unlike Kiara and FWMC, but when push comes to shove, Fauna will likely back her up too.

Add that she's the biggest wotaku this side of Vtubing. Yagoo/Mr. Jap would be insane not to hire her in a heartbeat.

>>72334654
Gumi tweeted out that the bullies outed themselves right after the video ended.
The only one who might have a case for not being directly related is Ike.

>>72317211
ChatGPT is free, my SEA nigga.

>>72334631
>Kiara
thats where your problem is,literally the only problematic one in holoEN,like duh ofc she is gonna do that

>>72334769
brain is free my nijinigger,do you have one?

>>72313815
They key difference between someone like pomu and someone like millie is that for pomu it is a friend group and she would be happy to add more friends and be friends with everyone, and for millie it is a clique and she would be happy to exclude outsiders to clarify her superiority as a member of this group.

>>72334729
It should only be the people named in the document.

>>72334729
>Gumi tweeted
>friend you vent about coworkers spoke up
I'm not saying she doesn't know people Doki has problems with, but I've been enough frustrated coworkers venting to put a ton of salt on anything coming from friends.
>The only one who might have a case for not being directly related is Ike.
Baffaling position based on everything else you've said - why?
Scratch that, I don't want to know.

>>72334654
>But I don't know, you don't know either
we all know it,its literally nijisanji themself that "self report" everything,why the fuck do you think everyone facepalmed at this black company being a retard on public shooting themself not on the foot,but on their own face and blowing their entire head like clown?

"oh heres how we mismanage our talent and how a bully clique and bullying run rampant,we will EXPLAIN in publicly,now you guys love us right?" le retard de kurosanji

>>72314843
Alternately vshojo poached her and shes just waiting on her model because iron vertex has a giant backlog.

>>72335061

>>72334189
>and she's trying to act like she does.
She literally said she doesn't know what to do once she returns home. When it comes to returning to vtubing, she has so many different paths/options to choose from, and is trying to weigh all the pros and cons of each.

>>72334189
I dont know how to tell you this, anon. But shes been like that for a long time. Its very cute and its why we watch her.

>>72334654
>You argument is "they must be confessing guilt in the black screen, because I feel it"
if they weren't guilty why would they feel the need to respond to Doki at all, acting like they have been accused and even leaking that they were named - when Doki never even mentioned them or anything?

You ever read Shakespeare? It's like in Hamlet when King Claudius voluntarily reveals his crime because of a guilty conscious when he is shaken and enraged by Hamlet putting on the play that replicates his crime
Elira and co admitted their guilt by making that video and responding as if they had been publicly accused when they in fact never had been

>hololive hires pomu
>shes mane-chan

>>72335103
>>72335338
It's what I'm saying guys, you're trying to do a gotcha "Ah, it's self report!", when that is something you've decided on. We have no hard evidence.

>>72335338
niji might actually murder someone live these ppl will still defend it,its useless,vox literally full victim blaming and saying so much bullshit and yet his retarded fujos fell for it lmao,so theres no point

>>72335431
Would be interesting. Would Pomu make a good manager?

>>72335634
we know this is /vt/ but no need to show how retarded and in denial you are like that anon,geez.

>>72335747
If nothing else, she has enough experience to know how NOT to do management duties

>>72335634
>We have no hard evidence
keep ignoring the fact that harassment was mentioned in Doki's statement, that Niji themselves agreed and added 'livers' to it and that Elira and Millie were named in the legal documents
maybe if you keep pretending each discrete point exists in a vacuum with no context or obvious interconnection over and over it will finally become real

I also like how no one is contending with or acknowledging the point that, even if ELira and friends really didn't bully Selen, they still slandered her, directed harassment against her and sided with the black company afterwards anyway with that video, which is still bad and still makes them shitty people regardless
you literally don't even need the clique rrats or the bullying for them to still be bad people in the wrong

>>72336297
That makes sense. kek

>>72311188
of course shes not coming back. She drove someone into considering suicide and now she feels guilty about it.

If Pomu came back, how would you want her to return?
>Indie
>Vshojo
>Hololive
>Manager
>Other.

>>72336581
Phase Connect

>>72336581

>>72336674
You're confusing Pomu with Midsemi Midlock

>>72336581
Indie.
Vshojo would just make her nastier, Hololive would be a shitshow of anti drama + complaining about no perms again, and manager means she doesn't come back.

>>72336834
>and manager means she doesn't come back.
I mean in a similar fashion to A-chan.

She's having fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2aerbU2XCc

>>72332537
>>72332673
Not even that anon, but seriously, the post you're calling "nijiseethe" is doing quite the opposite. So yeah, learn some reading comprehension. Maybe then you won't out yourself as such an ESL next time.

>>72337196
Good for her.

I hope she never comes back.
From her time as an OL and being an unhinged cunt to that time she told that yellow hero guy to shut the fuck up and nobody cares, its blatantly obvious she's a shitty person behind the scenes, and watching all of her fans cling to her like a blanket is fucking pathetic.
>>72332535
Lmao. You monkeys are the only ones that lost, they're getting more events than ever while you retards where all hanging to every word of your fake "leaker".
>The japs agree
Lmao no they don't, you can barely speak english and expect me to believe you have comprehensive knowledge of how JP feels about this, They don't give a shit.

>>72331582
Her work ethic was never meant for a nip ass corpo. Japanese celerymen ethos is all about maintaining status quo/stagnation and not sticking out. Doki's desire to do more and over-achieve just paints a target on her back for harassment in such an environment.

>>72337443
NijiEN is dying.

>>72337443
And all of these event flopped by every metric LMAO Kurosanji KWAB

>>72337504
She even has more good things coming her way.
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1772730538480017586

>>72336581
V4M (indie is fine too)
V4M seems to be doing a good job of supporting their talents, 3D is pretty quick, they have JP connections but because they're based in the US they don't have nearly the amount of JP corpo perms issues. (They can play modded games, they can play obscure retro games, they can sing songs that Niji cant due to perms, they can release covers of songs Niji cant due to perms, etc) She can also join with her old indie persona so she doesn't have to abandon her name again.

>>72337443
a single doki stream is worth more than the entire branch on a given day.

>>72331944
Based

>>72337443
>to that time she told that yellow hero guy to shut the fuck up and nobody cares
wait what
Qrd?

If Doki is doing great, I wonder how well Pomu will have it when she comes back.

>>72338376
Probably a low 4view, no dramabuff

>>72338376
Eh, she will probably get around the same numbers as before. Doki got a good boost thanks to the drama.

>>72338376
as an indie? probably nowhere near Doki. Pomu works much better with people behind her, I don't think she can handle all the networking herself. She's got enough of a dedicated fanbase that she'll probably be back to her old numbers in no time, if not higher.

>>72328506
She's talking about Selen back stabbing literally everyone and dragging them in drama. That'd be pretty traumatizing I think

>>72311188
That's why she had dinner with a vtuber illustrator and tweeted about it.

>>72338672
>Nijinig headcanon

>>72332393
>And as soon as she went indie, all of those issues of her being hard to work with vanished like a light.
Yeah, it's insane. The second she didn't have coworkers and the manager was under her payroll, no one thinks she's hard to work with! What a freaky mystery

>>72311705
Yeah. Selens best friend in Nijisanji was actually her biggest bully!
That makes so much sense!
Pomu literally forced her to use her new outfit concept to match her detective outfit!

>>72338672
"le selen backstab" happened over a month ago. This sounded like something she only found out about recently.

>>72338770
Just let them cope. Doki pretty much "won" already.

>>72338825
>Selens best friend in Nijisanji
you can't honestly believe this right? God some of you people are dim
>her biggest bully
nobody is claiming this

>>72338770
Makes more sense than the retarded headcanon that Pomu just didn't know that Selen was being bullied so hard she died

Question, are Nijisisters and Dramaniggers stuck in a time-loop? It's been a month already. Move on retards. It's over.

>>72338837
>Hey guys! Long time no see! Man, what happened with Selen was crazy, uh? Management really did it this time...
>Yeah, well, fuck that dramabird dooki crazy BD whore too
>...Oh fuck

>>72338837
No it doesn't. She said this all happened while she was having a vacation in Japan which is why she's sad she's leaving Japan more confused. Seems like Selen backstabbing everyone threw her for a loop

>>72338916
You're unironically autistic. aren't you?

>>72339238
nice counter argument retard

>>72339114
Who are you quoting?

>>72338895
i think this is past cope,they are reaching actually delusional lvl that the real world where niji got exposed didnt exist

>>72327945
>he thinks his holobegging fanfics arent bullshit either

>>72339113
>It's been a month already. Move on retards
funny that the one that actually cant move on is sister,they still attacking sayu and now ofc doki

>>72339498
It's a shame they got exposed for having a trash background check system and allowed menheras like Zaion and Selen to join because of it

>>72339498
I hope this whole thing is on its last legs because it's getting pretty old already.

>>72320617
I'd have never pegged elira as what she turned out to be either based on how she streamed.
The only warning sign was that elira kept horrid company. The same warning sign with pomu.

>>72311188
I hope she takes sometime and recovers.

As much as I want her to come back, no what if it’s corpo or indie, I understand if she decides to pursue another path

>>72339373
So yes you are.
There's no point in trying to talk about human relationships with you because you can never understand them.

>>72327854
the fact that this never happen except for luna back then which is a long time ago made these nijinigger think cover cares about ex niji,specially fuckng niji EN lol

>>72311188
No shit. She made that very clear on Twitter after she graduated. Anyone who thought she was coming back, despite being told hundreds of times she wasn't, is a retard.

>>72329638
Same, but I'm selfish enough to care when. If going Vshojo means waiting another 2 months, and going holo means waiting another year, I know which I'd prefer.

>>72339706
>menheras like Zaion and Selen
yet they are the one whos proven as "indie" that back on their feet while still attacked manage to continue and rising from it,while the clique is a laughing stock while kuro and matara is not that different lol,the indie one that actually showing they can deal with it by themself

>>72339746
>I hope this whole thing is on its last legs because it's getting pretty old already
lol,lmao even,i have bad news for you,a really BAD one KEK

>>72340087
if it was so clear then why did she make this?

https://bsky.app/profile/mintfantome.bsky.social

>>72340087
>"I'm not going to stream AS MYSELF"
>becomes mutual follows with a vtuber mama on her vtuber account that has been private since 2021
>>"sh-she's not coming back, believe me!"

>>72340165
Attacked by who? They're the ones having people harass others in their name. It's not hard to find success when dramafags and Holonigs decide to support you because you made Nijisanji look bad

>>72327854
>this was said by mori herself when she got stop by management from contacting advent.
Lmao that was because management didn't want that "mUh fReEdOm" retard fucking up Advent like she did with Council, someone asked another talent (i forgot who) about this supposed "rule" in a SC and was met with confusion

>>72340246
What's the bad news then? (Probably a nothing burger.)

>>72340268
>>72340300
Keep up the copium. I'm sure it's going to be two more weeks.
In fact, I'm going to screenshot this post I'm making and exactly one year from now, assuming Hiro hasn't sold out, I'm going to make a thread to rub it in.

>>72340310
>Attacked by who?
get a mirror

>>72340469
>Probably a nothing burger
hmm yeah sound familiar
"aint no way its true bro,niji is a cool company unlike le evil idol hololive,they are actually like FAMILY"
"niji is full of freedom,riku is cool and close to liver,staff san also chill unlike idol company that so strict"
"selen? pomu? they aint leaving niji,niji is fuckng great,they are thriving and loving niji"
"no way there is niji drama RRAT? thats NOTHING BURGER"
yeah AGE LIKE MILK,but again,nothing burger right? KEK

>>72340946
Are you okay? Why are you bringing up Israel company? You sound mind broken

>>72311705
prolly closer to 'smile and wave boys' if she was so satisfied at niji she wouldnt have quit

>>72340946
Ogey, schizo. Calm down I'm not a Nijisister retard. What are you even talking about? How does this involve the Selen situation? It's been a month, it's over. Everyone involved has moved on. NijiEN lost. Whatever happens beyond this point is on NijiEN, not Doki, Sayu, or Pomu. Move on.

>>72341101
>Are you okay? Why are you bringing up Israel company? You sound mind broken
anon,take your meds fast,you are starting to be delusional

>>72340578
So no proof. Crazy how you can say they're being harassed while Nijis are avoiding streaming because they're afraid people associating with them will be harassed. Which is exactly what they did to Kiara

>>72341367
>still in denial
never learn kek

>>72341803
Ok, so you are just a Dramanigger. Got it.

>>72341770
>create hitlist to attack,attacking the said ppl on the hitlist,"NO PROOF?"
retardedsisterchama

wait its pomu in that video? looks asian.. I always thought pomu is a white girl

>>72341928
PWNBJ

>>72341865
>"you all just dramanigger,all of this is just a rrat,this is never happen REEEE"
got it sister

>>72339905
I accept your concession

>>72341928
She became Japanese

>>72328506
This is pretty ambiguous as far as the timing of when she "found out." The space was yesterday but she only mentions "after she left" Niji. If the timing is shortly after she left, it would be likely it's something negative towards Selen, whether true or false, and if recent, would likely be something negative towards Niji, which again could be true or false.

I'm not sure what could be so bad as to be borderline "traumatizing" though. Again, at worst Doki felt like she was being bullied when she wasn't, which outside of making her menhera would hardly count as being traumatizing.

I feel like what most fits the bill would be finding out that the person you went on a whole fucking Antarctic adventure with turned out to be a massive piece of shit.

>>72333083
Where's the slander? When did they ever lie in the video?

>>72338790
So you should be glad she's someone else's problem now and there's no reason to attack her further... right? Or do you still think that somehow if she gets "taken down" that the views and money will magically return to Niji EN?
>>72339706
Man, if that's trash, then what does it say about the rest of the branch and the company as a whole? What a disaster you're building for yourself over here!
>>72340310
The dramafags are gone already, sister. They moved on. They're bored. There's only dragoons and sincroknights left actually watching them. And apparently, they vastly outnumber and outpay your shitty company.
God, imagine being someone like Kunai who actually LOST clout by joining the shitty company, makes LESS money, streams to a SMALLER audience, and for what? The ability to get completely fucked by an awful contract and become unable to perform any kind of online side gig? Great company "benefits" you got there!

>>72341916
>"Hitlist"
>Literally labeled blocklist
Blocking someone seems to be the opposite of harassment. Is the new Dokifag flowchart just trying to shift attention to the doxxsite when it's revealed they're the faggots harassing Kiara?

>>72341770
...Really? Have the talents ever even said they were being harassed? Because Sayu has. In fucking person. Because your damn fanbase spread her address, name, photograph, and fucking passport around twitter.
But right, you're just going to say she's a lying menhera, just like you claim the contract she leaked is a fake. But it's also illegal to look at. Because it's fake. But it also references the OTHER bad contract and is consistent. But both are fake, however even japanese ex-nijis have had similar shitty situations arise because of the totally similar clauses in the fake contract, right?

>>72312129
She said that she wanted to focus on her schooling. Although I don't buy it, she's probably auditioning(if not already accepted) for a major vtubing corp. Most likely Hololive as she wanted to be an idol and being a holo is a straight shot to that goal. VShojo is a good candidate too as she already have the connections via ex-nijisanji talents.

>>72342285
>Kunai who actually LOST clout
No fucking way is this actually the case.

>>72342515
Her PL has double the amount of subscribers her Niji account has.

>>72311188
If she does come back I hope she goes to vshojo, I don't want her in hololive, at all. Once a nijinigger always a nijinigger and pigs like her love rolling around shit.

>>72342285
>The dramafags are already gone
That's why they're now trying to get Hex fired for making a dead goldfish joke. They're definitely gone which is why every time Dokicunt baits drama, they come flocking back. Also Doki still can't beat Kuzuha or Salome even with her all the dramafagging. Tragic, now she's back to being a 4-5k. If you think the contract is bad, you're a child which would explain a lot

>>72342033
ESL

>>72342496
>Because Sayu has. In fucking person
Still asking for proof and no one has provided any of her saying she was harassed in person. I'll accept your concession as you're just speaking in circles

>>72342515
Her PL has nearly triple her subs and was a solid mid 3view. Donations were obviously FAR higher, as well. She had a proper support network and was able to put out covers, which is something she can no longer do due to the no-subcontractors clause that fucked over Selen (but Luca got away with)
By the way? This number? That's not her monthly earnings. That's total. Since her fucking debut. Before youtube and AC's cut.

Dramas over. Pact it up Dramaniggers and Nijisisters.

>>72342606
God, you're just as bad as the GURRAT weirdos. "E-every time a niji says something fucking weird it's definitely Doki's fanbase, not because twitter is known to be full of virtue signaling freaks!" When the hell has Doki baited drama since responding to the black stream? At all?

>>72342606
>bait drama
Never happened, nijicuck

>>72342840
>>72342584
Jesus that's really sad. I'm not sure why she even did it in the first place. Every wave was already showing up worse than the last.

>>72342103
Anon, "felt like she was being bullied" is nowhere near the severity of what happened. If you don't get how a potentially close friend of yours trying to kill themselves due to horrible workplace environments can be traumatizing for someone, I have little hopes left for you.

>>72342606
Sorry to break the spell, love, but nobody's trying to do shit. Nobody gives a shit about your boytoy. He's just a beatstick that was supposed to HOPEFULLY get you to realize how retarded you've been being.
Guess that didn't work.
>>72342684
I'd just tell you to watch her old twitch vods but I know you don't watch females, so instead I'll just laugh at you, since she's doing far better now than she ever would have if she stayed at your garbage company, despite all your bullshit.

>>72343068
I am well aware, and my personal thoughts are completely parallel with yours, I assure you. I was speaking in a bizarro sense that even if Sisters were right Doki's "backstabbing" at worst merely amounted to feeling as though she was bullied when it wasn't the case. She didn't try and press charges, she didn't go public with anything, didn't try and slander any of them openly.

>>72342606
Yeah it's totally Doki and Sayu who tried to get Scarle cancelled over Starbucks too, right?
Do you think it's also Doki and Sayu who harassed Zaion and leaked her info all over twitter? Someone needs to stop them! For the sake of all the remaining organs!

>>72342861
LMAO. You're really still trying this angle? You can check the profiles of every hate comment on Vanta's VOD and see the amount of drones falseflagging and breaking containment. If you want a list of Doki drama baiting

>Still calls her fans dragoons despite "wanting to move on"
>Brags about OWNING and being able to touch a play button
>Collabs with TSB through PLs
>"Not Sayu! Cy Yu! "
>"I have all the perms now"
>" I was secretly a huge Hololive fan and now that I'm free, I can finally play Holocure"
>"Here's every reason why going indie is better than being in Nijisanji '
>"If you want to succeed, make sure you speak the language otherwise you won't get anywhere "

I ate fish

>>72343436
>I can do all of the things that I was denied before!
Fucking Dramabird, amirite sisters? h-hahaha

>>72343522
Was it delicious?

>>72343436
>streamer leaves company
>continues to make same content that she did at company, but she is mysteriously more successful now that she's unshackled
>sisters seething that she's still making same content
???????
What... exactly did you expect her to do now that she's not in the company?
>>Brags about OWNING and being able to touch a play button
What do you mean? I thought they could get it if they asked, right?

>>72343436
Anon, people and fanbases aren't just brainless hiveminds that behave as one, individuals have their own beliefs.
There are Dragoons of all kinds, yeah some of them may be the kind to participate in cancel culture but others aren't. The same applies in reverse, not everyone that does cancel culture is a Dragoon.

Counterproductively, what you just said just goes to show that even twittards that live off cancel culture 24/7 aren't that brainless to think Niji is a good company.

>>72344200
No you don't understand. Doki is the source of ALL the hate against Nijisanji! If she just dies, Nijisanji will magically get back all of the subs, revenue, stocks, and viewers that they lost even without taking her into account because they lost all this shit in Q3!

>>72343436
>"Here's every reason why going indie is better than being in Nijisanji '

Just say you didn't watch the stream. She gave an unbiased overview of the pros and cons of indie vs corpo.

> Mentions owning play button, not needing perms
Well yeah that's an obvious benefit that she didn't have before, how the fuck is this drama baiting? Can't she be happy about stuff she has now that she didn't have before?

>>72344340
So true fellow Nijisister!

>>72343436
Sickling stop being so pressed, you gotta "remain unaffected" like your emo oshi. Put up that 19th century villain playlist and just vibe sister!

>>72344027
Yes. Better than what I remembered. Didn't smell bad either.

>>72344740
That's good anon. I'm happy you had a good meal. :D

>>72342606
> They're definitely gone which is why every time Dokicunt baits drama
it's not Doki 'baiting drama' it's the retard in Niji who keep fucking up all on their own and handing dramafags ammo on a silver platter on a weekly basis
>Also Doki still can't beat Kuzuha or Salome even with her all the dramafagging. Tragic, now she's back to being a 4-5k
numberfagging doesn't change the objective clear factual reality of Nijisanji which everyone knows now
>If you think the contract is bad, you're a child which would explain a lot
you either have never worked a day in your life yourself if you think this or you're from some third world company and work in a literal sweatshop or something lol

>>72343436
>support the literal bullying and harassment of an employee to near suicide
>be responsible for harassing people like Luna out of Niji and ruining Aloe's life
>act like complete pieces of shit to everyone, defending the most indefensible shit and harassing people on twitter, shitting up threads here constantly and hanging out on your shitty doxxsite
>your precious poor uwu innocent dindu nffin livers start getting backlash for still supporting their absolute garbage company
>"nooooooo waitttttt don't harass peepo, that's baaad, what about LE MORAL HIGH GROUND???? just move on already guyzzzzz"
no
go fuck yourself
you don't get to claim to have any moral high ground or condemn anyone now
you are your shitty fucking livers deserve all the 'drama baiting' you get, in fact, it's not enough

I hope all of your precious livers get harassed and spammed until they all fuck off one by one and your entire shitty evil company collapses. I don't give a fuck about being 'the better person' or anything at this point, I want vengance for your faggotry.
Fuck Nijisanji, everyone in it, everyone who defends it and all of you scummy hypocritical third world lying sisters, bootlicking freaks
I hope the dramafagging against Nijisanji never ends