/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Can't wait for the EN3 lolis.

>>71992417
Cute!

I miss her oh so much

(You no longer need to imagine there is a cute picture of my darling closeted toddlercon, ADHD, 143-point autistic, sweet, charming, delightful wife, Rin, attached.)

Roca is a good girl.

i love my wife junny

Momo status?

>>71992151
oh uh... it seems like mr man never delivers on anything

So... Aviel bad?

mfw idol became a black company

Black Jews...

now I understand why they always try to blame the talents, we need riro to spill the beans.

Perfection.

>>71992652
Momo love!

>>71992884
Perhaps I judged you too harshly, little one...

>>71991943
----->>71933766

>>71992652
Momo is a good girl.

Holy shit Pochi

hey guys I heard there's drama and idol is a black company and Aviel lied and everyone cried and one of the talents is going to quit is it true?

Mr.man bad!!!

>>71992508
Thanks for the pic of your wife anon!

not just anxiety but EXTREME ANXIETY!!! EPIC!!!

https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvb9oxnv
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>>71992986
You misunderstood.

>>71993062
ip grabber

>>71993041
You are most welcome!

So I guess Pochi’s gone… damn. Man idol is really dropping the ball. This and the shit with Yuko have been an absolute disaster.

>>71993062
based poll kek

MDMA with Roca.

Not a single cent more to idol. Stick your 100 dollar shirts up your ass aviel.

How long before Aviel makes a tweet saying PLs were a mistake?

>>71993217
roca wrote this

What the actual fuck are their "meetings" about if things are this bad behind the scenes?

So Idol didn't want to pay out the donathon because Pochi didn't want to extend her contract for another year, or am I reading this wrong?

>>71993378
gaslighting, coersion, all the tricks.

>>71993178
Yuko is back on track, give her awhile longer

Pochi if you're not lying your ass off right now you need to lawyer up immediately.

>>71993439
you wish she was talking without lawyers.

so what's her issue?
it sounds like management is just very slow to respond and hasn't paid her on time and she had a menhera attack

>>71993396
Apparently the funds were frozen because she wouldn't do her tasks. But with how menhera she's been, I'm still willing to believe she wanted to run off with money and Aviel told her no.

>>71993396
It seems she put in a graduation request at the turn of the year, a few weeks after the donothon

I want to sniff Coni’s feet

>>71993439
I hope Pochi thought of this better and has backup evidence, fuck Riro was probably right aboutt Idol

So let me get this straight. Yuko can retract her donothon goals and face no consequences but Pochi gets fucked for not finishing quick enough?

Pochi is a colossal retard. For making that post. For doing two donothons while unironically desperately needing the money.

>>71992884
I will give you a pass for now. You need more evidence though.

>>71993396
Honesty I bet the transaction got frozen because an Israeli company is sending $50k or whatever it was to young Canadian girl who just moved to the US, probably with no other career. And then Pochi wondered where her money was, and Aviel probably said "it's frozen, do your projects", but Pochi (rightfully) wanted to get paid since she just moved country, and then they had an argument.

This is my completely uninformed rrat.

>https://twitter.com/fenriruvt/status/1770986069376532810
>I was gonna take the money and escape to another country
>However the company did not give me the paycheck unless i actually showed up to work at least once
>Unable to accept these tyranical black company demands i chose to quit and ghost the company
>However the evil company continued to harass me with "contactual obligations" and "Necessary legal procedures"
>I don't feel like talking to them and they should respect my privacy and right to ghost them

>>71993576
of course riro was right, look at their fucking termination notice, all blame on her and nothing on idol.

>>71993237
Poko's shirt was like $40

>>71993547
Facts. And the "punitive terms" were likely: Hey, make a tweet for your fans.

>>71993178
The downside of picking your talents from the psych ward

>>71993655
Dont forget where the pressure and coercion was likely she had to tweet atleast once or not "take a break" with the money until her contact runs out

>>71993396
iirc, this started in october or so

>>71993675
and I missed it, fuck

>>71993423
Hah good one. She lied and scammed her viewers out of donothon goals. The fact that management hasn’t addressed that is fucked. This company is a disaster right now.

starbucked again

>>71993655
Pochi is just a weird case in general. Why migrate to a new country where you don't even have a proper job (vtubing is not a steady or guaranteed source of income). Plus, Poko was able to do some of her donothon goals, why not Pochi?
IIRC there was a chart that showed completed donothon goals, does anyone have it? What did Pochi need to do?

>>71993979
at least we have Riro... I mean Yuko.. I mean Momo.. I - I mean

100% she isn't getting paid because she tried to graduate straight after the donothon lol
And she's anxious because she made a terribly stupid financial decision to move to another country before the money came in

>>71993576
That must be why management tried so hard to prevent Yuko from graduating when she suggested it. They knew Pochi wanted to graduate and absolutely did not want the drama from 2 graduations so soon after Riro was terminated. It would have bad implications. Thank you for coming to my RRATalk

IdolEN falling apart only makes the rise of IdolES easier.

The big thing here is Momo was able to take an extended leave and has come back with no issue, which makes me think there is more to Pochi's story here.

Please riro! drop the bomb i know you're holding on to it

>>71993396
sounds to me like she wanted to fuck off on an extended leave of absence immediately after her last donothon, and the company told her she needs to work on completing her goals if she wants the money. simple as don't do your job, don't get paid.

>>71993979
NTA, but what goals did she not fullfill execpt the super spicy ASMR? Never watched her donothon

>>71993576
Riro exposed that idol managment was corrupt for letting the situation get to that point and taking no action
Still she was a drug whore and would have been kicked out of any other corpo regardless
The current situation gives terrible vibes from pochi. It reads as she having a mental breakdown, wanting to just quit with the money, but refusing to even talk to the company or a lawyer about it
>I have respectfully asked NotStarbucks to respect my privacy and discontinue any further attempts to contact me. Despite holding evidence, I've chosen not to disclose further details out of consideration for the other Baristas and NotStarbucks Staff. I believe it prudent for all parties to move forward and disengage from this matter. Continued engagement serves no purpose and will only perpetuate harm and validate my experiences.
This reads as: "I am right, they are wrong, i can prove it but i wont, please stop talking to me and forget about it, goodbye"

>>71994076
Can we all just accept the "bomb" her lawyer wasn't letting her drop is just a smoke screen to the fact she was fucking hald managemente?

>>71994034
Yeah I'm thinking it's this.

FUCK, it's another menhera bombshell... BRACE FOR THE IMPACT

delicious damage control going on right now, if you're still on the fence about idol, just watch how they operate.

is idol about to fucking explode???

Guess we know why this exists now
Sounds like trying to menhera-proof their financial policy

>>71994076
8 out of 10 times the bomb this or that person is holding onto is either massively incriminating to the deployer or a nothingburger.

>>71994152
Yeah this is the big menhera flag of the story.
Like what the fuck, no actual functional adult would take this seriously from anyone but a kawaii anime girl.

>>71994034
I used to like Pochi but I think this is exactly it. Aviel understood how shitty it would look for someone to get over $50,000 and quit almost immediately, basically taking the money and running. Fuck you, Pochi. Turns out you really were no different than a regular whore.

I hope Kai and Roca are safe

Nisha is a comfy chuuba to listen to.

>>71994240
>Vrev imploding
>Prism dead
>various microcorps like Amberglow dead
>V&U having massive issues
It's getting pretty tight.

wtf is going on now?

>>71994125
She’s still gotta complete the VN and her children’s book afaik. She implied that VN was gonna be spicy but she’s changed that now. She also removed a donothon goal video from her channel. The mauve art is no where to be seen despite it being promised months ago.

>>71994034
The bigger question is why she didn't do some of her donothon goals if she wanted or really needed the money? She makes it seem like she planned on graduating immediately after the donothon.

>>71994076
>>71994180
I can prove that i fucked the manager!
And that he knew i was overdosing on benzos and did nothing to stop me!
That will show em!

>>71994021
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nCac7-qvQsV2Pfpq2uvtVtO38TpxTYt7RfH2W5Jllfs/edit#gid=0

>>71994240
Odds are no, if this does turn out to be a nothingburger(and pochi seems to want it that way) than things will continue on as normal.

I can send Pochi like $20 if she needs help, any more than that and I would like some more feet pics

>>71994445

Man, whoever was/is in charge of going through auditions needs to get their brain checked, stop hiring fucking menheras

I guess that's it. Yuko even managed to rebounce, her numbers were ok lately but there is no recovery from this.

>>71994121
Based management.

Is pochi that much of a menhera we need to suck aviel's cock now?

>>71994535
read that as
>stop fucking menheras

>>71994412
Shes working on the childrens book, but you have some points. Tbh Ill think we will never see a visual novel. Shes still better than pochi, because she atleast works slowly on something and pochi just ghosts her fans

>>71994517
This, somebody tell her to open up an onlyfans and just do feetpics
Unironically would raise enough to fund her move and maybe even cover legal guidance from a lawyer

>>71994619
That too, it's not good for one's mental health or dick health

>>71994500
>Spicy official art completed
And where is it?

>>71994535
>>71993742
Menhera hiring CAN work.
Can.
But good lord you need wranglers and a LOT of them.
Green Woman imploding took like 3 years.

>>71994692
>I have respectfully asked NotStarbucks to respect my privacy and discontinue any further attempts to contact me.

And managment!

I think Momo is neato

How can you watch a literal jew company and not expect this?

if I had a time machine I would have made Coni my kamioshi years ago...

>>71994726
How much would you pay for more photos like theese?

chubby loli for en3 please

I pray one day Coni will get into a corpo that isnt filled with sketchy as shit organization, and even sketchier shittier coworkers
Third times the charm, right?

Pochi 2.0 was probably the largest blunder Aviel has ever made

>>71994799
Aviel should take a note from fishman and hire a female manager with a fucking huge bonk stick, these bitches need to be whooped into shape by another bitch

>>71994927
0

>>71994972
She should patch things up with Lumi.

>>71994619
Impossible...

>>71994991
Oh yeah that's one of those things they do right.
Only have women in charge of the girls

>>71994404
Pedophiles getting blown the fuck out as they deserve.

>>71994726
Seriously. Pochi, you dumb bitch, this is your legit last chance to make any money. Open the onlyfans. It's just skin.

>>71994991
Phase also has their talents tard wrangle other talents
Tenma holds the reins of quite a few

>doesn't do what she promised to do
>doesn't get paid until she does what she was promised to do
>goes menhera and "BLACK COMPANY BLACK COMPANY"
>ghosts management
What exactly did she think she accomplished by posting this? Looking an even bigger retard than she already looked?

>>71994972
What do you have against my oshi Roca? kai, Juna, fuyo and poko are fine aswell, no? (momo when she comes back)

>>71994837
She sure is.

You guys will be fine, this is nothing.

Pochi's nonsense is kind of reading the same way Kawaii gen 3, especially sava, did in reacting to their mass graduation

>>71994952

>>71994927
google woman feet 10 trillion result

Indies really are the best option at this point. Tired of this corpo shite.

>>71995021
Either Pandora or Coni asked to patch things up a few years ago and Lumi said no.
I love this girl but holy shit she holds a grudge.

ponpups status?

Did Pochi make a decision to leave before or after the donothon? It's fucked up if she already knew she wanted to take the money and bounce.

>>71995098
Another reason to hire a hag or two for EN3

Roca and Coni are the only ones I care about so I'll stick with them wherever they go

>>71995124
They created a pretty bad precedent.

>>71994927
$5-$15 for photos of this caliber

>>71995163
The timeline is so fucking close but she wants to emphasize they're unrelated...

>>71995163
this is the best summary of the whole thing imo
>>71995074

>>71995124
They weren't graduated they left and they had leverage in terms of PR and money.

DID SOMEONE SAY DRAMA?

>>71994927
Full legs photos are better

>>71995109
I didnt mean that Everyone else in the corpo was bad, I have nothing against anyone you named.

Aviel you need to publicize your emails or I'll make the Holocaust look like a fucking joke.

>>71995230
falseflagchama...

>>71995223
they and the company they left used the term graduated so thats what I used

>Tries to graduate right after a donothon without completing the goals
>wtf i'm the victim here
>spends a shitload of money...without having the money in her bank account first
>wtf i'm the victim here
>idol corp refuses refunds hoping Pochi will actually deliver on the goals, so viewers get their rewards and Pochi gets the money
>refuses to deliver on her donothon goals
>wtf i'm the victim here

I assume Aviel hasn't announced her graduation yet because he is hoping she will come to her senses, but I think she's a lost cause at this point

>>71994619
But menhera are the only ones who want me

>>71994927
>>71995270
if you're going to do that might as well post them all

>>71995109
He was implying Riro, Pochi, and Yuko were shitty i think.

>>71995274
makes sense. Hopefully you have as much fun watching Roca as I do then anon. Shes lovely

Why the FUCK did she even move to the US for?

>>71995364
probably because giving back the money is going to be a fucking pain in the ass, but I'm assuming he has spent it all and I mean, Nikki and Katta just re debuted lol

>>71994927
For this? $20
For >>71995270???????
$300.

>>71995364
His only option is firing her pale ass. I loved Pochi but it's obvious she can't be worked with. Thankfully she has twitter trannys to keep her afloat lemao

>>71995382
Theres no way I will post the maid outfit, jannies eyes are no doubt on this thread now

https://poal.me/p5l428

>>71995364
If she graduates Idol is finished.

>>71995188
Damn, as a non feet guy... are these "good" feet?

>>71995364
I don’t think she’s gonna graduate. It’s gonna be termination from the sound of it.

>>71995553
As long as Rin is part of Idol Idol will never be finished

>>71995553
lol, lmao

pachi pachi

>>71994972
Coni's the common factor here, you can't just blame everyone else every time.

>>71995364
To quote Juna "that girl needs therapy"

>>71993178
Yuko was all Yuko, you cant blame management for that. But yeah they need new people and they need to stabilize before anything. I dont know if thats gonna happen, what with the Brave partnership it sounds like They are already halfway sold.

I think Pochi's mental was ultimately shattered when it turned out that the Gamer Dog of Idol was a worse gamer than half the other chuubas.

does any other small corpo have as much drama as Idol?

>>71995553
She seems to have done everything in her power to put Idol in a good light, the company will dust this off whether it really was their fault or not if she cant drop receipts

Pochi should be considered offtopic from the next thread

>>71994441
Seems sketchy. She could have took the LOA to refresh and did the donothon after. Doing it this way just looks like she was planning on running away with fat stacks of cash leaving paying fans to wonder what shes doing.

Nothing worse that a dog that bites the hands that feeds her.

The not-Fuyo not-Juna stream last month makes a lot more sense now

>>71995481
where is she from

>>71995630
Roca...
Emma...

>>71995660
You weren't around for tsunderia or cyberlive

>>71995751
Qrd?

>>71995414
>He was implying Riro
No he wasn't

>>71995751
Yeah it does, but people hate pochi so they will devour aviel's cock instead lol

>>71995660
Vreverie is literally about to die and V&U is trying to blackmail $400,000 out of one of their talents, idol is small potatoes

>>71995660
this are called terminations, they happen once in a while

pochi is a good girl

>>71995785
albania

>>71995799
Idol needs to merge with phase invaders and rebrand as Cyberlive 2. Bring the band back together

To fix your company, I prescribe 25mg of talent restriction to counteract excessive talent freedom. That is all.

>>71995553
More like she's finished. Who the fuck is ever going to trust someone who did two donothons, didn't complete even half of her goals, and tried to exit scam her corp? And don't forget about her begging for a new model so much that she beat Katta and Nikki who deserved their much before her.
All I can feel is disappointment.
I'm sure there's still a way to patch this up, but it's all up to her.

>>71995553
Of course phasebrowns are all over this "drama" like flies on shit. You piss ants are everywhere when it involves shit like this.

>>71994972
her fault for joining an israeli company

>>71995643
I mean they could have wrangled her better. That’s what they’re supposed to do. Manage.

https://twitter.com/coni_confetti/status/1771000721665655157
alright if coni is doing thinly veiled damage control then I'm willing to believe in idol

>>71995810
Riro was good. Kyoresu is shitty.

>>71995929
Based.

>>71995799
Lolthis. Both Tsun and CL were such ENORMOUS shitshows we're still feeling the aftershocks.
>>71995861
Vrev won't die until Nova is there.

>>71994619
normalfags are useless

>>71995801
they "joked" in the stream that it was over, then told people not to read into it too much.

>>71995844
What did they say? Was ist bad against pochi or Idol

>>71995944
Whoa there, I signed up as a manager in Idol to bang the talents not work bro

>>71995949
I trust her and she's been consistent about this so I'm leaning towards Idol's side on this issue

Nobody other than Coni and Kai follows notpochi btw

>>71995983
>Vrev won't die until Nova is there.
>doesn't know she's been PL for about a month

>>71995799
Tsunderia was horribly mismanaged but I wouldn't really call it drama. Everything was handled very privately.

>>71996129
Good point.

How many feetpics equal to $40,000?
I guess we can drop it to $20,000 because she did do some of the stuff on stream during the donothon

>>71996129
Coni and notConi follow every single vtuber in existence

Can't wait for /pcg/ to hear about this and defend pochi just to stir the flame

ok for real where the hell is Pochi?

>>71996129
leave other talents out of this you fucking loser

Tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down…

>>71995382

>>71996266
Twitter troons are already on it.

>>71996266
I'm doing both at the same time.

the real pochi died in the Canadian wildfires last summer

>>71996266
they’re shitting on her for trying to scam her fans and run away with the money and also laughing at her for trying to out-Jew a Jew

>>71996347
This one was always my favorite. So fucking sexy

So what should be Aviel's next step?
>Offer refunds with the money that pochi wasn't paid with
>Give Pochi the money with no refunds and no rewards to cut their losses
>Give Pochi the money and offer refunds which would put probably put the company in debt

>>71996376
rest in peas pochi

is Coni's pl like her true personality or something? She's so lovely and genuine in her current stuff and her pl's kinda...lewd<3

>>71996287
Suck my cock retarded faggot

>>71996370
I kneel

What kind of scathing and slanderous termination message will Aviel cook up for Pochi?

>>71996410
Debut ES/EN3 first. Then offer refunds.

Rock and Rollin with Roca Rourin!!!

hopefully they learned from the last termination notice and leave the details out

>>71996538
This case is simpler.

no furniture???

>>71996504
"Pochi wanmaru was found killing children in the israeli war"

>>71996410
>Do the last one, and just pay the refunds from Rin's salary
Everybody wins

>>71996504
I hope he just writes a short termination notice and just end it.

>>71994783
Why is this an ongoing trend of commissioned NSFW art being finished but never posted?

Look up NotPochi's twitter on Wayback Machine. There. That's all you have to do to find that shitty maid pic. You're welcome. Also not technically off-topic anymore.

>>71996538
>>71996504
Pochi was in a romantic relationship with REDACTED

>>71994619
A lesson that Tomer learned too late

There's one thing I don't understand though.
How does Pochi intend to solve this issue and get the money she needs if... she wants to keep ghosting management and doesn't want them to talk to her anymore.
Well then I guess they'll just pretend she doesn't exist until her contract ends and then she still doesn't get her money. Nice job!

>>71996707
Speaking of, how is Anonymously Yours taking this?

>>71996664
Bless your cute little face

>>71995785
go back to the catalogue

>>71996774
probably on her side about this as he should

If they mention that she is terminated for not completing donothon goals, people better start yelling about refunds. Boo bros included

>>71996761
Going to court?

>>71996853
no refunds chud

>>71996761
She doesn't want to work, she doesn't want to communicate and she doesn't want to fulfill her past commitments
But she does want a paid vacation and even after months of not working she wants more time off

idol should officially cancel all future donothons after this disaster. The girls clearly can't be trusted with that kind of responsibility

>>71996853
People have already been yelling about refunds for a while

>>71996420
buried in past streams and dead threads it was stated that cyberlive management kind of pushed certain roles/archetypes onto talents. Inori, one of notConi's genmates was told to put on a fake voice and sex it up. NotConi was given a yandere type role. If you look at her stuff after the company disbanded she shifted a lot closer to what she does now

>>71996410
>Give Pochi the money with no refunds and no rewards to cut their losses
This. Gachis wont mind and Pochie will be happy, she might still leave tho lol. But it will help with the reputation of the corp

>>71996761
>How does Pochi intend
You read her document right? She's not thinking at all, she's going through a menhera moment.

>>71996538
This, I hope Aviel has paid attention to nijiEN and does exactly the opposite.
No vitriol on the termination/graduation notice. No black thumbnail stream making your talents do damage control. Just let the dumb bitch talk and her cucks (if she has any) leave.

>>71996874
>hello lawyer, I want to sue the corp I worked at because they refused to pay me after I refused to do my job.
>lmao get the fuck out

>>71996761
After pulling this stunt.
Do you really belive pochi thinks anything through?

>>71996168
only real thing they had in common was lack of real management
Char had to step up and take control of Tsunderia after Urara left and just didn't have a leadership strategy since she had never done it before
Lumi took up the role of manager for CL but her strategy of "try to do better than your genmates" for whatever reason didn't resonate well with them

>>71996643
Who knows. Poko’s was completed and sent out. Yuko is probably just being a cunt and refusing to release it because she’s apparently above that content now.

>>71996853
Thats already been happening for a while, they been refusing refunds on donothon.

>>71996420
linky?

>>71996420
true personalities do not exist
characters in characters

>>71996410
Honestly? Give her the money. If she runs all the bad publicity is on her and she'll never be able to join a corpo again

>>71996809
You are welcome, rincel. I admit I was shocked it was that simple. People are way too cryptic around here about stupid stuff. Bunch of chuunis.

>>71996853
Hello tourist-kun, people literally have been asking for refunds so much since the Yuko drama was brewing that the CEO told people to mail him directly for that.

>>71997004
I just don't get the point, just post a link and be done with it, you already paid for the art to be made why hoard it.

>>71996410
Wasn't 100% of the money supposed to go to Pochi anyway?
Just ask top 10 whether or not they want their money to go to her. It's really that simple.

>>71997010
Gotta make more noise then

>>71997004
>mauve working on some top quality cunny only for yuko to softball it
Need to get Jelly to agree to doing her own version of it now.

>>71996266
Can we please revert /pcg/ as an idol friend back to /pcgia/

donations are gifts, you have no moral or legal right to ask for refunds. in essence, you are stupid.

>>71997074
In terms of merch yeah I know. But the donothon shit has fallen on deaf ears from the looks of it.

>>71995481
a person

>>71997191
Fuck off, Pochi. You're scam failed.

>>71996922
Yeah, they need to stop them until they can figure out a way to do them that won't be this risky.
I can see Aviel's perspective, if Pochi does not deliver it will make the company look bad as well so they wanted to motivate her to do her work but that backfired because now she went full menhera and wants the company to look bad.
It's a lose lose situation for him if a girl doesn't want to give the donos back what she promised.

>>71996936
I'm glad then, it's good that it's only stuff she wants to do now. Also when I first discovered it I felt a little guilty and giddy like I was a kid finding granddad's porn stash

I miss the old Pochi. The always streams Pochi.
I hate the new Pochi. The always leaves Pochi.

>>71997017
You can easily find it yourself

>>71997222
>you're
lmao

>>71996410
I'd say give her the money, but only if she agrees to renew her contract for another year and work on her donothon goals. Let her have her "extended leave", but she can't graduate until they're done.

>>71997270
Sorry...I'm ashamed...

>>71997191
Feet now.

>>71996664
the what?

>>71995929
Talent freedom was a naive mistake.

>>71996761
>pic related
I love this killer bunny so much, my man living the life I wish I could with is S rate drops.

We need some mage to dispell the jew magic from everyones eyes, they are sucking aviel's cock for free!

>>71995929
Freedom wasn't the problem. Small corpos need a menhera wrangler on deck all the time.

It seems like no matter what happens, Pochi ain't getting that money unless she comes back. And she just burned that bridge to ashes.

Looking at the donothon document, half of her goals are considered done. Divide the remaining goals among the other Idol girls & give them the money instead!

It might not be Pochi who completes it, but the donothon would still get "done" in this case.

If Ponpups really want refunds just issue a chargeback and show your bank the Google doc idol has of donothon timelines and them not being fully delivered. Just cry hard enough and you'll get them on your side.

The Dokibird situation was a mistake, now everyone thinks they can strongarm their company because they were slightly mishandled.
>>71997274
She clearly wants to fuck off, she's not gonna agree to another year.

It's funny, things are really not bad here. I guess everyone expected Pochi to do something stupid eventually.

>>71996664
God bless you brother

>>71974676
YOU JUST HAD TO SAY SOMETHING YOU FUCK

>>71997191
>>71997191
You're right, if it was just donations and they actually went to Pochi. However, donothons promote "rewards" for reaching donation goals. Not fulfilling those goals is legally called "fraud". Also if Pochi is telling the truth then the donations never went to her, which legally would be called "theft".

>>71997271
No i cant

>>71997191
lol this has to be the most braindead take. Even Aviel mentioned that donothon goals are a “promise”. It’s like joining someone’s patreon which promises content and then never releasing it to the donors.

>>71997461
Well then she can enjoy staying poor. Maybe she can do a donothon on her PL to raise funds, surely she'll deliver on the goals this rime right?

>>71994152
>talk to the company or a lawyer about it
Lawyers are expensive. No sense in burning 3 times of what you're potentially owed on some idiot with a law degree.

did coni know

>>71996129
if you're bringing that up, it's also worth mentioning that Coni is very visibly and audibly happy about things, and how they're going, and likes Aviel enough to tag-a-thot him and joke about bluechew sponsorships
can't speak for Kai, but still, I'm not exactly batting for team 'Idol is a well oiled machine' but I don't think Pochi is being entirely honest here, to put it one way

>>71997191
This post emanates so much cuck energy, you must be a guardbro

>>71997191
Vtubers don't have human rights
I don't have a moral or legal obligation to not rape them
In essence, you are stupid.

>>71997547
patreon is subscription based not donations based you mouth breathing retard

>>71997519
Kek. He was wrong though. This place was and still is a shit show since Yuko fucked over her fans. Now the Pochi shit has finally come to a head.

I'll be real with you, Pochi was always really boring. She put the bare minimum amount of energy and hype into her normal streams.

>>71997547
how legally binding are they tho?
purely hypothetically speaking if vtuber promises something for a donation goal and she gets it and later refuses to do it are people owed a refund?
if the company had given her the money she earned would the company be the one that owes the donors the refunds?
would the vtuber then owe the company that money back as well?

>>71997262
Man, meatyman53 went downhill

>>71997467
Well she isn't Yuko so phase/kiwiniggers don't have a reason shitpost.

We’ve all known for a long time that pochi is a massive menhera. I think the simplest explanation is that pochi is being a menhera again. Just give everyone a refund and tell her to pound sand.

>>71997759
If you promise a reward for donations and don't deliver, that's called fraud. If Idol doesn't do refunda and some whale took it to court it would be game over for Idol.

>>71997704
I don’t think this is helping your argument kek.

>>71997467
She was basically out. It was a gamble between her and Yuko. Yuko looks stable now at least.

>>71997869
do it AY. no balls

>>71997938
that's because you're a moron kek.

>>71997830
>again
>implying she ever stopped being a menhera

>>71997949
Stable but not getting any money lmao

>>71997869
>If Idol doesn't do refunda

Class action lawsuit against Idol LETS FUCKING GO

>>71997869
>Winning a legal battle against a jew
roru, rumao

>>71995949
Alright I was going to see if things were fucked here but Coni is one of the few people I whole-heartedly trust so Pochi is probably not being entirely honest.

>>71998060
Coni a cute

>>71998060
based clown

>>71998060
indirect shot a Pochi

I just want Roca to be okay

>>71998060
The shade lmao, bitch ass clown

>>71998060
Based.

>>71998124
I don't see it.

>>71997949
I wonder how long she’ll be stable?

>>71998060
I guess if Juna, Poko, and Coni have shat on Pochi at this point and Yuko of all people is still streaming, it's pretty clear who's in the wrong.

>>71998081
>your honor, my client claims that she wasn't paid after not doing her job
>I see. You can fuck right off out of here

>>71998055
She got atleast 200 Dollars in members today. Looks fine to me

>>71998081
With what money lmao

>>71998060
I love my Idol family!

>>71998137
Roca is very happy.

>>71998214
KEK

>>71998197
I mean donators against Idol for fraud

Does Pochi really think that ghosting will solve all her problems?

>>71998194
Not sure about the other but i trust the eel

>>71998284
No? As someone like her, you just avoid the problem for as long as possible, while making no effort to solve the issue. Eventually it all blows up but that's a problem for another day!

>>71998187
I'm so lucky I won't take it for granted

b-but things were getting better......

>>71998375
Classic

What's the plausible worst case scenario in this case?
As of now, I don't see Pochi leaving as a major yab. We already don't have a clean image for the sponsors/public due to Riro, Pochi getting terminated won't do a big damage to it unless Aviel has a retard moment.

>receive gift membership to kattarina
>all the membership asmr is GONE
god DAMN IT

>>71998282
They refunded Riro's donothon money after she was fired, they even refunded Yuko's donothon money after she decided to change. If Pochi fucks off I don't see them saying they won't refund anything, if they haven't refunded anything so far it's because they're still trying to make her get some sense in her head.

This is Yuko's fault
She carefully planned everything long ago
Just didn't expect it would take this long for Pochi to blow her lid
Months and months of gaslighting and poisonous advice went into this poor mentally unstable young girl, just to have some "big bad evil" to point at and have everyone else forget your mistakes
Pochi is the scapegoat, just like Hitler was to europeans

I blame Pochi's groomers. If any of them had the balls to just man up and go fuck her then this all could have been avoided.

>The aviel post today was preemptive damage control over this

>>71998458
That's a reasonable take.

>>71998440
The worst case scenario is that she goes even more menhera and decides to leak the further evidence she's talking about

>>71998284
>Does Pochi really think
No

>>71998448
When you put it that way it really sounds like Pochi just wants the money and freedom to leave immediately without fulfilling any more obligations. Huh. Kind of scummy of her.

>>71998458
All they had to do is drop a massive GLOPPING noise inside her and it would had been ok...

>>71998448
Nigger how can you be so confidently wrong? They haven't been refunding Yuko donothon because they say she is still fulfilling goals

>>71998409
Yeah because of her past company

pochifeet?

>>71998458
She's married though

the solution is to just hire 5 dudes with voice changers
wom*n are too mentally fragile for this job

>>71998569
>further evidence
Anon...brace yourself: there isn't any.

>>71998448
they refunded yuko's merch, they haven't refunded her donothon

Make the other girls do the "ASMR Scenario of your choice" goal and they can keep my money, I don't care.

I'll even give the girls more money at that point

>>71998441
all her member streams were recently also archived with all the old streams in general, it's behind the $15 tier

>>71998623
They literally said that anyone who's unhappy with her decisions can issue a refund by directly sending Aviel an email.

>>71998699
they refunded it because they don't ship it

Pochi come back! You can blame it all on me!
Cause I was wrong and I just can't live without you!

>>71998747
Holy fucking retard. Go talk to any of her donators and they will tell you. We are all getting scammed out our donothon money because technically she is still completing the goals

Rin will save this company by releasing her feet pics and overshadowing any and all drama

>>71998569
She could maybe have some out of context screenshots of a very pissed off Aviel that would paint Idol in a bad light enough for dramafags to get on our case... But I really doubt it.

>>71998846
AY....

>>71998912
She is gonna have uglier feet than pippa, mark my words.

I say Aviel should let her keep ghosting them and ignore her existence if that's what she wants. If she keeps this up for 6 more months and chooses not to renew her contract then she just won't get her second donothon money which will all be refunded as well.

Rin will save Idol by releasing pikmin

>>71998953
I think that's the best option as well

Time to put this doggo down.

>>71998743
alright I went and checked the auto-gen'd members only playlist to confirm
thats better than them just all being nuked from orbit at least
I assume the same goes for nikki? all old vods locked behind a member tier?

>>71998877
Well too fucking bad for you then, you should have bought her merch if you wanted refunds
Still doesn't change the fact that they refunded Riro's unfinished donothon goals after firing her

>>71998912
As long as she makes sure she is making a disgusted face at the camera. She should also release a SPH voice pack.

for the brainlets like me
https://files.catbox.moe/18k3lv.txt

>>71998951
I belive they will be perfect, blindingly white but perfect

so pochi just self-reported that she did try running with the dono money? considering she left her "work leave notice" just a few weeks after? lol. this is not a good look for her. what was she thinking?

>>71999097
what? Youre too stupid to open a link on twitter?

>>71998953
The discord right now is all vagueposting very hard about it, they NEED to say something.

>>71999097
Dolphin porn literature

>>71998951
Very unlikely. Rin is fucking petite. It's very difficult for naturally petite girls to have ugly hands or feet.

>>71999120
A walking (barely), talking vampire

For any ponpups that somehow still exist, here is an example of how shitty the thieving French whore whos running away with your cash is. She was donated this outfit over a year ago and deleted it despite being paid to wear and post it. Her current actions are by no means new, but go ahead and keep defending her if you love being cucked so much, I guess. Anonymously Yours will be glad to welcome you into his cuck orbiter harem!

pochi I know you are /here/, start a fansly and post weekly feet pics. all your financial troubles will be gone

seems like pochi was the cause of talents rioting in december

>>71999034
I don't really keep up with her, honestly, but looking right now her membership stuff does still seem to be there in the autogen playlist, but not her old public vods
there is of course the problem where she doesn't even have an active and joinable membership right now, so wait and see I guess?

>>71999070
Smoothed-particle hydrodynamics?
Singapore Press Holdings?

Poor Aviel. He just wanted to make a vtuber corp that leaves both his talents and their fans happy.

>>71999120
if thats actually her skin, thats unhealthily white.

>>71999220
My fucking DICK

>>71999220
sex
>>71999284
cute

>>71999345
DAMN

>>71999198
AWOOOOOGAAAAAA

Everyone should learn from Rin before making menhera posts

>>71999345
Who is he putting down, Pochi or Idol

>>71999358
Imagine her going outside naked on a sunny day and absolutely flashbanging your eyes

>>71999120
God I fucking want to have deathly pale children with Rin

>>71999198
Noway thats not some lightning that make her skin seem so white

>>71999198
shut up bitch you got this picture from AY anyways

Esekai being a homostar dicksucker, a nijiEN dicksucker, two money grifters doing GFE until they got paid enough and then dropping everything and Fuyo getting outed day one like a retard.
What a disaster of a vtuber generation. Among the worst ones for sure.

>>71999561
hopefully himself next

>>71999833
jump off a bridge

>>71999561
That is a scene from the movie Old Yeller, if it helps.

>>71999755
She's french canadian, she is white as fuck bro

>>71999833
You can't be successful without making mistakes.

>>71999148
Depends, if she is on the borderline midget category her toes would look very square and stubby
Speaking from experience
Not exactly a turn off but not exactly pretty

>>71999345
ay...

>>71999932
never did see that one, personally
also lmao, jesus

was the sheeb plushy goal from the first donothon or the second?

I wish I didn't stop collecting the intro screens

>>71999561
Black Fuyo

>>71999345
He should get to decide ASMR streams for every Idol girl as compensation

Divide his $11K to each one who participates! Done.

/jidf/ status?

>>72000141
having a laugh
I feel bad for ponpups tho, no fanbase deserves this

>>72000141
chilling

>>72000141
Worried.

>>71995544
>103 votes
what the fuck kek

>>72000141
This guy particularly
On suicide watch

>>72000141
One of those days.

things are not looking good for pochi

>>72000305
catalog thread

>>72000141
chilling, watching gem loli and waiting for Coni to come back

>>72000141
idol is dead

>>72000339
fake poll

>>72000141
Yuko already killed my ability to trust anyone, so all I feel is disappointment in Pochi. I still have some hopes that her mom will get some sense into her head and tell her to stop ghosting her boss if she wants the situation to go anywhere.

>>72000339
STOP THE COUNT

>>72000462
not fake, but lame 2nd answer

>>72000494
bwaaaaaaaaaa yuko bad bwaaaahhh

>>72000376
>320 replies
wtf

>pedos got btfo again
all is right in the world

>>71999938
Whups meant >>71999120
Pochi isnt that white, Rin however...

>>72000141
Still listening to a future IdolES member.

>>72000576
Ironically, most of the discussion on that thread is actually about phase.

>>72000376
>catalog bait thread almost instantly devolves into phasefags flinging shit around
they really aren't subtle

>>72000625
Go back, troon