/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's working, keep it up.

>>71804970
>Why do vtubers all
Cargo cult.

>>71804970
Whoever started using it first was unbothered by the possibility of getting unfiltered anonymous messages or too retarded to find a better service or both. And then they became popular, and everyone copied whatever they were doing, including using maro.

>>71804970
If you're getting more negative than positive or can't ignore messages with obviously bad intentions it's honestly just a skill issue

>>71804970
Because the japanese do it and all western vtubers just copy what the japanese do.

>>71804970
if western whores are using a japanese app to do shit with their non-japanese audiences, then it's because they saw hololive doing it.

>>71806591
Fuck you, I've had a long and unsuccessful but INNOVATIVE vtuber whore (male) career which is mostly not copying Hololive's tools or audience interactions.

>>71806008
>>71804970
This, a bunch of western vtubers like to follow after holos/japanese vtubers even if its not the most optimal way of doing things

>>71806008
>>71806591
>>71806877
This doesn't answer the question. Sure, western whores blindly copied it, but why Japanese whores were using it in the first place?

>>71807044
Because it fit their needs at the time? Why does it have to have some convoluted history behind the scenes when it's just a tool to accomplish a task?

>>71804970
>Im literally tired
I believe whatever whoever said about this creature, I believe worse actually. Never show me this thing again.

Isn't this the one that did the donothon and dipped out with the cash?

Maros are an excellent way for a chuuba to receive cum tributes anonymously and not form an unfair relationship with a singular viewer and avoid DMs.

>>71804970
Beware of this bitch anons

>>71804970
why do you care about it in the first place .leave em alone mf

>>71807216
Because adaptation is a thing.

>>71807379
It's literally possible she literally meant literally in a literal sense. Something like that stops serotonin and dopamine, and one effect of that is feeling tired. That's why depressed people, regardless of what first caused it, tend to trap themselves in a self-fulfilling prophecy of
>why am i so depressed?
"Bro, you should get outside, talk to a friend, eat healthier, and do some low impact exercise or minor tasks, bro."
>i guess you're right, but i just don't feel like i can right now. im always tired and sad for some reason
>maybe i'll feel better if i just pretend to sleep and wallow in despair in a dark room for another 20 hours
>wakes up at 3:17am
>why am i so depressed?
It looks to me like creative people in particular seem to fall into this cycle, even without an inciting chemical anomaly, and maybe even have personalities built for it.

>>71804970
WHO???

>>71804970
qrd
Who is this and why should i care? Is she worth checking out? What do you want from me?

There are drawbacks to anonymous fan mail, but also many benefits.

>>71807772
Funny, i made a thread about her yesterday because Youtube shilled her to me. People were shitting on her but not a single faggot would tell me why.

>>71804970
>>71807044
Mashumaros are just an extension of niconico and 2chan's anonymity system, because the Japanese are pussies that can't say shit without hiding behind a curtain (and get uppity when they do)

>>71805377
This
>Japanese people love using twitter
>Japanese people using services built on top of twitter like twitcasting, marshmallow, fusetter, etc. (notice how they're all Japanese)
>Vtubers take off in Japan
>Japanese vtubers' preferred method of communication with their fans is through twitter
>Non-Japanese vtubers start showing up, follow the norms and conventions of the Japanese while injecting their own

>>71809333
Former Phase

>>71805030
fpbp

>>71804970
She offended worst part of vtuber fans, phase fans. They will not forgive and let go until the person kills themselves

>>71810451
Oh shit, I never watched any of her PLs, I just kinda stumbled into her, either via a collab or youtube recommends. I guess that explains the Moonshine connection a bit.

>>71810451
Ahhh, the private hotel orgy one that wanted to earn some bucks behind fishmans back?

>>71809387
This. I almost hate that this question even has to be asked in earnest on 4chan, but I guess there's that much user turnover.

Everybody lies in one way or another, OP. It doesn't have to be big, or planned, or even a direct deceit. It just has to be something you don't want your continuous sense of self attached to. White lies, lies of omission, and sugarcoated criticisms.

When you give a man a mask, you give him the opportunity to tell you the truth. It doesn't guarantee that he will, but the interesting reality is that MOST people have one they really want to tell. Most of them are trivial, and some are disgusting or terrifying, but somewhat surprisingly, the good ones that find their way in are almost always worth that trade.

>>71810580
This gets better and better. I watch Phase for about a year now, mostly Panko, sometimes Uruka and Ember. I heard some stuff but never really cared enough to do reps. Well i still dont care desu, i see no reason to be mean to her when all you have to 'do' is just not watching her?

>>71810279
>he says, and he posts on 4chan, where the most prominent feature is anonymity

>>71810777
You can't reason with schizos, and phase was pandering to the worst parts of the Internet with the highest amount of schizos there. Nothing you can do now, can't reverse time

>>71810957
NTA, but he's right as far as Japan being more likely than the west to shit down your throat for not maintaining a status quo, even if it meant perpetuating a lie. We have that in the west too, but you're far more likely to get people saying things like "well, he's a dick, but at least he's honest."

There's a difference in how the values of community and truth are ranked, which makes anonymity more valuable for the Japanese on a day to day basis, even if as an American it makes my Freedom boner rock hard on a day to day basis.

>>71810777
It was a peaceful separation, there is no bad blood between Phase and her. She even still has her spot in the op of both /pcg/ and /pcgia/.

>>71810580
>>71811216
>ESL

phase fans at it again

>>71811544
Buddy, your kind always hangout at lawyer/doxxsagi/some dramatuber stream for ammo on other companies. A lot of "fans" raided official holo stream after dramatuber vid on the situation just to shit in the comments. I don't even mention falseflagging in donations to girls in holo just to instigate drama. You are a blight of the board.

Maros are for good girls. If you're a butch, close it.

>>71812186
NTA
I like Phase, im not doing all this shit. I just enjoy watching dorky woman play games. Sometimes i lust over Uruka but thats a crazy as it gets.
Anon...am i..normal? Do i not belong here?

>>71810580
>worst part of vtuber fans, phase fans
Did you dislocate your shoulder to make that reach?

>>71810777
>>71811544
>>71812479
>>71812439
Phasefags seethe

I was only ever upset at Fish for her leaving Phase and maybe Shiina for making light of me losing my oshi. I was never upset at Nano. I would have been if ratts became real and she did dox Lia or something, but that never happened. I don't understand what peoples issue with her is.

>>71812439
It's only natural to be virile for the blue bear.

>>71804970
bitch has her mods spam /lig/ and /pcg/ whenever she's live it was only a matter of time

>>71812921
>seethe
You okay Niji bro?

>>71812971
I don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, but if Lia was involved she had to have been in the wrong one hundred percent

>>71804970
bro just ignore it and don't feed the flames

>>71804970
They could easily just ignore it, but they know that stirring up drama is an easy why to boost their numbers.

>>71812971
Why be upset at fish for her leaving? She was very obviously planning to double dip which is why she held the donothon. Her plan was to stream as nano behind his back.
If that wasn't the case she would have voluntarily left the company rather than being terminated. It's exactly what Neena did in Kawaii.

>>71812971
>Shiina for making light of me losing my oshi
Shiina is a good girl she would never do that? sure you're not confusing her with another girl? QRD?

>>71808992
And yet none of these depressed people start twitter beef over nothingburgers. Curious.

>>71810580
What did she do (or supposedly do) anyway?

>>71810631
You are mixing multiple rrats, MariMari is the hotel rrat girl, she is friends with some Phase girl. The rrat (never confirmed) was that the graduated Phasse girl Yuri was getting donos somehow trying to not pay the company their cut.

>>71805030
Yeah how did she not think that would be how people take it?

>>71810957
I post in other places just fine, and if I feel like talking shit while wearing an identity I will. The Japanese use anonymity as a free pass to be shittier people like the Chinese use their status as tourists to take shits in public places while visiting other countries, most evident in places like the ones I previously mentioned. In places where anonymity can be toggled off like twitcast, it can be pretty funny when comments that were speedy and filled with anonymous jerkasses suddenly just stop coming when it's turned off. Sure the same can apply to 4chan users as well, but as evidenced by containment breakers it's like we just suddenly zip our mouths shut outside of it.

>>71810580
>ignoring the elephants (nijisissies) in the room

>>71815522
She doesn't think. She just reacts to stimuli.
>One paypig contacted her privately to bypass fish's cut
>she felt good
>got all her paypigs to do the same
>managers confronted her
>she felt bad
>choose to leave the company
>company inclined after she left
I strongly believe that if Yuri stayed in Phase Connect they would have remained low-3view shitters instead of being the high-3view shitters they are today. One bad apple spoils the bunch. For sure she was a bad influence on Lia or at least on Lia's productivity. i.e. thirty dollar merch for 20 minutes of collab cannibal ASMR. Firing Yuri put the fear of God in some of the laziest members and they started taking the business seriously.

>>71812439
It's someone fucking we her solely for the purpose of being able to point at it and say "Look! It's the Phasefags doing it!"

personally i'll never forget her incredible shortstack tits she posted that one time

>>71815237
barely streamed, most streams that were there were just
>I don't get paid enough being a vtuber give me more money
but anyone will tell you she's lazy and doesn't want to work so instead of bettering her streams its just the vicious cycle
>go on break and run out of money
>stream and beg for money
>loyal fans give money
>go on break and run out of money
held a big donothon for a new pc then got herself terminated forcing fish to reimburse people for their donothon money
Lia found out while streaming and basically laughed then ended
on a different stream later on she said something like "the bad people are gone now" which was suspected to be about yuri
almost immediately after being terminated she shows up as nano begging for money again to find her new model

>Yuri. You're fired
Damn Lia. That's harsh
https://www.youtube.com/live/RJ-wgkng5Ww?t=11931

>>71816469
>the bad people are gone now
Lia was talking about Fishman's retarded chink buddies who he brought on from a previous startup to run the company with him

>>71816215
So the usual crew: whorotrannies

>>71804970
Many vtubers are unable of thinking critically. It's why the most successful ones have tardwranglers.

>>71812971
This U?

>>71812479
no, he just observed the same shit everyone else has, namely you phasefaggots raiding every general with your collab begging and other insufferable antics. what's even worse, you don't limit yourselves to /here/ but keep nagging vtubers all the fucking time. you "people" are unironically worse than filian's chat hoppers.

>>71804970
Yeah but how else am I going to send them sappy love letters and tributes

>>71804970
The bigger ones have a manager read it first and then send the not-shit ones to them.
The ones that don't unfortunately have to deal with it.
Then there's Calli who reads the shit ones on stream and laughs.

>>71804970
When did Seananners become a vtuber?

>>71804970
Nano is a disgusting cunt, fuck off

>>71810777
You have patrician taste anon, I highly recommend the Jerry pill too..

>>71807044
Because in Japan defamation carries a 3 year criminal sentence. No one is willing to say anything even remotely bad about anyone without anonymity, and is terrified they accidentally will.

>>71804970
>I'm just out here trying to have a good time and spread cheer
didn't this girl go on some rant making fun of guys who are circumcised? very cheerful I guess

>>71804970
What the fuck is wrong with phase cultists?

>>71804970
Awful way for her to handle it, taking the bait like that, but yeah maros are one of the worst vtuber-isms. The only sole benefit is having a "safe" place to send genuine criticism, otherwise almost everything else can be said in comments or twitter or whatever, and that benefit is completely overshadowed by schizophrenia it enables. Antis like she's dealing with, and attention whores that write 3 1000 character autism blog trauma dumps every day, hoping one (or all) manages to get acknowledged. Anyway phasefags gonna phasefag.

>>71804970
I have no idea why more vtubers dont just have their managers/boyfriends/whatever screen their maros.

Who is this vtuber and why do I know her twitter name? It's usually a bad thing if I remember your name.

>>71819745
I miss that little goober

>>71821017
Yuri from phase connect that got terminated for stealing money from the company

>>71822023
Nah, I don't know anything about that situation. It must have been something she said under that name. If she's an actual thief then I'm sure she has said some fucked up things, must have been something like that.

>>71816469
Your argument falls apart every time because you keep spreading the false rrat she had a donothon before her termination.
She did not.
She had a goal for 3 months that all her income was going to her new PC because her current one was breaking down and you could see in multiple streams she couldn't stream games.
Does everyone forget Yuri's POV on the Sons of the Forest stream was the worst fucking thing ever?
It was a $2k, Fish got his $2k out of it too because it's a 50/50 split. Meaning Yuri was forced to raise double what she needed to afford the PC. (I thought companies were supposed to help with that but apparently not)
Giving her shit about the PC and lying about her having a donothon is atrocious.

>>71822295
Thats the only "achievement" in her career
She was literally irrelevant otherwise

>>71823244
she was based tho

>>71823142
You don't understand why people run with this rrat. It's because it's actually the least harmful thing she could have done to get terminated from phase connect. Any other rrat that is serious enough for her to be terminated from fucking phase connect people could come up with is way fucking worse and will do more damager to her career. all she has to do is not be a retard and have intelligent friends who don't respond to shitty maros.

>>71804970
If it wasn't anonymous messages here, it would be throwaway accounts on other social media. It doesn't matter. Twitter normalized direct access to message notable people of all kinds, to the detriment of pretty much everything.

>>71804970

>>71804970
Numbers. That's literally it
The thrill of knowing they'll get shitty messages attracts dramafags, so it's always an incline.
Also this is moreso on the JP side, but having a "public face" and hiding your actual thoughts is so prevalent that anon questions are sometimes the only way to get your fans to be actually honest. The Vtuber gets to look at the questions in advance. Say she wants to pander to Unicorns/gachikoi, she can find the obvious "will you collab with males" questions and prepare a "perfect" answer for it.

>>71804970
Apparently, it's perfect for one way sexting. Drown in your own piss, Yuko

>>71809962
There's 5 or 6 people who really hate her because they failed to groom her and then she left their favorite corp and went full tribalistic schizo.

>>71804970
This >>71806008
And this >>71820126
And by the way, JP punishes as defamation anything negative said about anybody else, EVEN IF TRUE

>>71804970