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They probably can. But when everyone else buttons are hanging on the wall in the office you wouldn't want to be THAT guy who asks to take yours home.

>>71725076
Clip?

>>71725368
hey if i can i will fuck em i worked hard for it why wouldnt i

>>71725076
>Riku-sama, may I have my play button onegaishimazu
Half an hour later.
>Hey guys, I will be on vacation for two weeks cause my cat died.

Line up against the wall, please.

>>71725368
>They probably can
according to the jp livers they cant

>>71725514
https://streamable.com/6bdn1b
https://streamable.com/6bdn1b
https://streamable.com/6bdn1b

>>71725076
Just like you can ask to leave Nijisanji kek

>>71725368
You're telling me in over 200 performers, not a single one from any branch has ever asked to take one home?
In over six fucking years?

Why didn't any of them spend the 100 or so dollars it costs to get a second one for themselves? Is Riku really that much of a nazi? Wait, don't answer that.

>>71725665
Sad, I remember watching this guy in debut week and thinking he seemed like a cool bro. Some months of swilling the family koolaid can do this much organ damage… also surprised to see him doing a zatsu at all because the only external fan opinions I’ve seen of him at all is fujos complaining that they hate his FPS/Apex spam and want him to do just chatting fanservice more often and consider it very rare for him to properly acknowledge them. THIS is what they get fed.

>>71725816
>hanamori clique
>cool bro

>>71725816
Typical Hanamori shit.

>>71725076
When you finally succeeded to be known by many people but imas a fucking black corpo bootlicker

>>71725368
Guess what? You can order up to 100 playbuttons from youtube, at an extra cost! I guarantee you that niji management were well aware

>>71725665
as much cope as this is, you can actually just ask for a copy for yourself.

>>71725368
>2% of merch sales
>stealth suspensions
>they can take a fucking year's worth of salary from you if you're terminated
>y-yeah they are chill, t-they can definitively ask for it, but they don't want to be THAT guy haha..
The cope is real.

>>71726179
>you can actually just ask for a copy for yourself.
from youtube? you literally cant since that said copy will still be mailed to anycolors office

>>71726242
so riku should have access to infinite buttons to make his outer haven yacht

>>71725076
niji L

>>71726284
yes but for some retarded reason he just doesnt want to buy another playbutton
even as replacements for the playbuttons that got lost when they transferred offices

I can see it now, in the next few weeks Riku actually decides to finally hand his slaves a copy of their own Play Buttons as a healthy PR stunt.
Imagine the elation the Nijisisters would feel having that to dunk on the Holobronies. Rumao what a world

>>71725076
Same thing

>>71725764
>nazi?
this word really became meaningless huh? if he was a nazi he would at least do his best for the jp livers since he would be nationalistic and proud of his fellow nips doing well

>>71726356
>Riku actually decides to finally hand his slaves a copy of their own Play Buttons as a healthy PR stunt.
That would be funny because that would lead to a revolt in his jp talents who have been asking for theirs for years including his top earners

>>71726455
>he would at least do his best for the jp livers since he would be nationalistic and proud of his fellow nips doing well
he literally is but only for those who actually make him money which is why chronoir or rofmao always gets automatic prioritization for any studio use
there was even a rrat that the ar concert was cancelled because some of the jap livers complained on en getting preferential treatment which is why a few days after the ar live was cancelled they suddenly had 3 new jp concerts around the same time

>>71725665
So the implication is that NO ONE in Nijisanji has ever asked?

>>71726652
He's full of shit

Tsukino Mito : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmUkKUIMZHc
> livers don't get their own play buttons, it's lined up on a wall in the office
> she won't get it in her hands
> there's a ton of them lined up in the wall
Morinaka Kazaki : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBPo0JUNQ34
> there's a wall on the office where they line up the silver play buttons
> they "lost" hers when she asked, and refused to get another one
> Ibrahim: Well wasn't there a way you could get another one if you lose it?
> Kazaki: No
Hanabatake Chaika : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6UyvXmpfo
> some of his kouhai have their play buttons lined up in the wall, but his own play button was not seen
> others wonder if Iwanaga-san took some with him when he left

>>71725816
retard how the fuck did you not know he was elira's nepo friend
he was never a "cool bro"

>>71725665
Wasn't he part of the Enna-Millie gang before joining too? Recall some screens of their past interactions on her. But I don't know his FL/PL handle names.

>>71727165
Yes he's part of hanamori

>>71726652
full of shit just like the black screen stream. every niji that quit memes on the playbutton thing.

>>71727217
Thanks anon, will go scoop for some screencaps myself then.

>>71725665
>Flunked Niji auditions for 2 years running even with Hanamori buff
>First to get to 100k subs and highest (very low 4view) ccv in his gen largely due to sisters shipping him with Shu (because of Hanamori) or just general male buff
>Thinks 100k subs would be impossible on his own, is probably right despite one of his genmates dropping from 180k on her PL to 75k because manisanji
This is the kind of loser who was built for Riku's cock 100%

>>71727306
I wonder if he eats Enna's ass for favors

>>71725665
Damn. This is someone's who's been WHIPPED into submission. That's insane.

>>71725514
>>71725665
>>71726689
>>71726652

Isn't this guy the new hire of Elira from Hanamori group?

>asking
cringe

>>71727415
Man, this is so depressing. Literally gatekeeping the tokens of their achievements. Certified Black Company.

>>71727306
KUSA these dudes are the perfect heels. Pussywhipped slaves of femcels and faggots kowtowing to a pump and dump billionaire. Didn't know things were this bad at Jobbersanji.

>>71725076
>just ask
and get denied
no way in hell niji will give en branch preferential treatment over jp

>>71727415
Yes, he's another Hanamori parasite.
Also, there's no way Gundou fucking Mirei never asked for her button, so that's how you know this fag is absolutely full of shit

>>71727623
makes sense he would tow the clique-narrative then

>>71725665
why would you even talk about this to begin with and who the fuck is going to believe you lmao, this is such a retarded self induced yap its just gives me a headache

>>71725368
>office claims to have lost your
>ask if they can get a replacement
>no
>youtube can send you as many as you like so long as you pay upto $200
they just don't want to. Sure, you can ask, but the answer will always be "no".

>>71727691
Because he unironically believes this will make his company look better, just like the retard that clipped it

>>71727691
read the chat, the clapping seals of sisters ate it up

>>71725665
Because the implication from everyone rejoicing at the fact they finally got their buttons at home after leaving the company is that they didn't want to just ask if they could have it the whole time they were there? And we assume the next logical step is proof this is the case via someone unconnected that preferably has been there a while actually asking if they can have their play button and then Niji sending one to them to show off at home?
God damn, the worst part is absolutely no one is making things easy for Vivi at all, she clearly just wants to keep her head down and make the most of her situation for the sake of her fans that are sticking around while she's in there but now her genmate is tossing his hat into the self-sinking ring for literally no reason in the dumbest possible way.

>>71726284
The buttons are worthless to Riku unless they're specifically the result of a liver's efforts. He doesn't just want to line his yacht with bits of metal, he wants to gild it with the crushed hopes and dreams of his lessers

>>71726689
Nijisanji won't give you the play button that you earned? Okay, understandable. It's their IP and their marketing, stingy as fuck but whatever. But they won't let you give them $100 to order a duplicate for yourself either?! Now that's actually beyond fucked.

>>71727353
I'd eat Enna's ass for free

>>71726689
Honestly, another really sad part of this is that on the face of it, the whole "having a hall of fame of all the buttons together" could be a really nice gesture like Claude is actually thinking it is. But it's entirely soiled by the fact it's so blatantly not done for that at all, and the proof lies in the circumstance of them just not going the minimum extra mile as a billion dollar company to send them one too regardless of whether they care about having one or not. Fuck, even ASKING if they wanted one at home would do, because there's no way in hell every single liver there would have said no. If he was really trying to do a "teamwork makes the dream work" thing like it appears then he royally fucked it up.

>>71725076
Well if you don't ask you don't get, but if you do ask... you'll probably be told to fuck off and stop complaining so much

>>71728053
and get "had been making unreasonable demands outside of established corporate norms" on the termination letter template

>>71727785
Idk man, Vivi might be fully indoctrinated at this point. Only Kunai seems to be keeping her presence as invisible as possible, lore accurate.

>>71725665
wow, they really do live in their own bubble

>>71727771
Its fucking weird how no one called him on that bullshit on chat, it doesn't make sense unless he is all they watch.

>>71728195
8 week subscriber mode.

>>71726179
Yeah, you can ask, but Riku will say no.

>>71728195
only fans left in niji are the bootlickers

>>71726356
>as a healthy PR stunt.
Highlighting that you didn't do that before is not the genius PR idea you think it is.

>>71728143
You're not watching streams then, or if you are you're not reading between the lines. There's only so many ways to take "I just want to do right by my Paladins, that's all that matters to me." and "I don't want to miss out on any opportunities for things going on now." combined with her personal project focus.

>>71727771
And the retard sister thought it'd be a good idea to clip that, thanks to her the entire world knows the latest nijisanji L

>>71728195
If you're a nobody then sure.
But otherwise risk being paraded as a hater? It ain't worth it, man. Better to just keep your head down and enjoy what's good.
'Emperor's new clothes' ain't real life.

>>71728195
Someone actually thought it was a good clip to make that will make nijisanji look good, that's the quality of Nijisanji's fans now

>>71728302
Fucking coward.
>>71728340
Yeah, that makes sense going by what the chat was saying at that moment.

>>71728195
Lol you think people even outside this shithole are kidding when they say the so-called clique-aligned Nijis are cowards still reeling from the Feb smackdown? Aint no way theyll open up their chat to those who arent sheep, who would ask "problematic questions".

>>71728143
>>71728384
Vivi is watching her steps too.

>>71725076
>Every single Niji that quit
>"We can't have our play buttons"
>This guy
>"Just fucking ask"
I remember a sister that said the exact same thing when Doki posted her play button. "Maybe the livers just didn't want them or didn't ask enough". Interesting.

>>71728723
I also remember one of them saying how they clearly COULD have their play button. Finana posted a picture of hers!

>>71728723
>>71728814
>the sisters were the livers all along

Come on, you've gotta be kidding, right?
This is just a joke, surely.

You're telling me this faggot is ANOTHER fucking Elira nepohire? Please tell me this is just an elaborate shitposting ruse because this is getting ridiculous. Entire fucking EN branch is just Elira and her friends and then a few stragglers who they don't know who end up getting bullied.

Absolutely putrid company/branch.

>>71728814
...isn't that the same table was used to take a picture of Vanta's Play Button? But closer to the corner at a different angle w/ different lighting to make it look different?

>>71728681
Nice pic. Frankly I didn't even want to bring her up since this place is a hellhole at the best of times. But fuck it it's better than doing so in those falseflag threads. She's enough of a shitposter to be /here/ too so Vivi keep doing what you're doing and playing videogames well since you can, you can't control others being retards so don't even try or give them an opening. Bide your time but if you see a chance to get out, take it. Shit I'd be amazed if Niji would even let her play Deadly Premonition.

>>71728979
Yes. It's the same table used for ALL of the play buttons from every single organ from every single branch.

>>71728855
We already know they make their wannabe livers at their vtuber academy do "social media marketing". We know they are /here/ due to the retarded 4chan stream, hell, one of them had this place fucking bookmarked.

Yes, the sisters are the livers. Hell, people being "reasonable" while playing defense for Kurosanji are very likely thk0prsxem, too.

>>71727445
*sigh*

>>71725076
>>71725665
holy bootlicking

>>71728965
Sonny brisko faked his death.
Also an elira nepohire from Hanamori.
Basically half the branch is hanamori.

So this will be their go-to answer for everything bad that happens in Niji?
-"Why can't I make a deez nuts joke like every other vtuber?"
-"We didn't ask permission from Dee's Nuts to use her name for an unsponsored stream."
- "Why wasn't anyone managing EN branch to protect the victims from bullying?"
- "Nobody asked for managers so we assumed they wanted to prove their self-reliance and ability to problem solve as a group."

>>71727785
>literally no reason
He has a very good reason, even though he was in the hanamori clique he was a 2-view, now he's a 4-view thanks to getting picked up by the remaining Luxiem fans; he literally owes anything he has as a vtuber to nijisanji and Elira so of course he would fellate them
Vivi and Kunai not just walking out by streaming on their PLs is what's actually inexplicable, they're not making much in superchat or streamlabs and have 3-view PLs, Niji's contract is unenforceable and even if it could be enforced they've made only a couple thousand dollars streaming so far. And for Vivi to say she wants to do "projects" after seeing what happened to Selen and Pomu says she's fully drunk the koolaid as far as I'm concerned

>>71728965
Shu, Uki and Claude were all part of Hanamori with Elira.
Put them in with Millie and Enna who are also IRL friends of Elira.
Those people probably have their own people to recommend.

At this point, people shouldnt even need to apply cause you only getting in by recommendation of someone else.
Scarle was also a Nepohire of Fulgur for example.

It gets even funnier when you realize Hanamori had no managers as they all managed themselves.

The clique is no rrat, it is real.

He was supposed to be one of the good ones. I was willing to believe him after he left home to suck Shu's dick and even if he's part of Hanamori. Why did he become like this just after joining Niji?

>>71729030
lol the copium supply lines are working overtime it seems, poor Nijikeks

>>71726461
Guarantee more than a few have been binned or given to staff

Wait... All of the play buttons get sent to the ANYCOLOR offices, right? Which means that they're also the ones to pay for replacements?
...Could Selen order like 500 play buttons and make ANYCOLOR pay for it and transport it?
Or at least make them spend 5 minutes to cancel the order.

>>71729718
He was the Tsunderia rabbit guy? What the fuck.
No wonder he had the idea to make this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWcA8c-xpA

Still a banger though because I love Spider Hag loli & Lisa

>>71729875
anon anycolor doesnt pay for replacements because they dont get them even if the original is lost
>Could Selen order like 500 play buttons and make ANYCOLOR pay for it and transport it?
no because she would have to use her own credit card to order it

>>71729875
Nah, it does not work like that. They hold the accounts, you need those to make the orders.

>>71729937
Damn. Would've been at least funny as a prank to make them have to fix it by using whatever card's on file.

>>71729876
he's the brown haired one. The rabbit still streams from time to time I think, but very rarely.

>>71729876
No, he was the other guy. The rabbit guy is the dude he abandoned to go suck up to Elira.

>>71729876
Why does this unironically sound better than the originals?

>>71729608
I get that, but he can do that in a thousand different ways without seeing things are barely starting to calm down and suddenly broaching the subject with "Hey guys remember that thing that's a medium controversy and practically indefensible from the perspective of the company? Here's why it's everyone else's fault and not that bad!". It's absurdly incompetent and short-sighted.
I'm the one who used the word "projects", not her, I just didn't think of a better word. It's not that she's wanting to run big company-scale tournaments. I was referring to her little RPG maker game she's been making, as well as her wanting to do fun things for 100k and her birthday for her fans specifically. Also her joining tournaments that are popping up, notably one that's done by NijiJP and one not connected to Nijisanji at all speaks to me she's using her time wisely as experience and influence for herself, for more things her fans will get hyped up about and so people will learn about her. That way if she leaves she'll be in a better position afterwards.

>>71726689
How autistic must you be to use a Chaika joke for your argument lmao

And this guy hasn't even gotten anything notable from the company yet.

>>71725665
The absolute state of Nijisanji

>>71725665
He's not wrong, asking is free
Whether he's gonna get a favorable response is a different discussion altogether

>>71726689
isn't this just the plot of Interstella 5555?

>>71725076
it seems like nijisanji hasn't learned its lesson...

>>71727358
Doesn't have to be, he was another Elira nepo hire so of course he's grateful

>>71737802
There's an appropriately edited gif.

>>71726689
Imagine telling Tom Brady "Thanks for winning the Super Bowl 6 times, but those rings belong to the New England Patriots instead of you."

>>71725816
He was alright in his PL, it's depressing seeing him become another Niji brown noser

>>71729030
I still can't believe that they spent years maintaining this fiction that the niji organs actually get their play buttons only for claude to blow it wide open in his attempt to damage control

>>71737929
yeah I found it, they need more like painting NijiEn indies into their corpo forms inside the yacht in "(Accelerate) Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger"
Riku taking the gold record for Last cup of coffee
Freebird in place of Veridis Quo scene

>>71730397
Tsunderia's management had an amazing eye for talents and the company had one of the most musically gifted line-ups in the whole vtubing space when it was at its peak. Unfortunately that was about where the management's competence ended (although current NijiEN has made them look professional in comparison).

>>71737929

>>71725076
He was probably told he could by management, and since it's his first Play Button milestone, probably believes it.
You have to be either extremely retarded or extremely gullible to still be in Nijisanji, after all.

>>71738566
Tsunderia's issues is mostly being unable to turn a positive cashflow before the funding ran out and getting screwed over every time they had a breakthrough, which included rosemi btw, not management being incompetent

>>71739218
Or be part of the Elira's Hanamori clique.

>>71726689
If fucking Mito (the Sora of Nijisanji) of all people has confirmed it, why on Earth do sisters still try to claim it's not true?

>Niji: nobody actually wanted the play button
>Kuro: OMG the play button I've dreamed of having since I was 8!

>>71739240
>not management being incompetent
No, the management was absolutely incompetent. Not so much the middle management in charge of actually wrangling the talents, but the upper management consisting of the negligent CEO and his right-hand groomer buttbuddy completely fucked the company.

>>71739640
define incompetent, because generally speaking if middle management is doing well and upper management isn't blowing company funds on hookers and blow they shouldn't be incompetent

>>71726689
Riku must cum every time he sees one of the livers enter the room and can't touch their own play button

>>71728026
I'd eat her ass if the circumstances that got me to that position guaranteed cooking the clique's goose and exposing them.

Who the fuck does he think he is. He hasn't even been there for a year.
Mito built this fucking company and they didn't even give her either her silver or gold buttons.

Do these people understand when people make fun of Niji for not getting their buttons or the 2%, they are fighting for THEIR rights too, which they are too chicken to stand up for for themselves? Or do they believe it is 100% hopeless and are content in the way things are going and do not fight for improvement?
It's as if an amazon employee went
>nuuu stop talking badly about my company it's not their fault they don't let me go to the bathroom, we could've just asked, don't bully poor Bezos...

Remind yourselves that Anycolor grosses millions upon millions with you and they cannot even deign themselves to give you a cheap plaque that costs pocket change to order.

>>71728026
couldn't pay me to touch her with a 10 foot pole (and by that I mean my penis)

>>71742300
>Who the fuck does he think he is. He hasn't even been there for a year.
notice how JP side had been distancing itself from EN more and more. Many JP Livers were happy to have them and were eager to collab at first. Now it is a different story unless it is JP lite Kotomelo.

>>71741337
no goose to cook, no wrong was done. seethe more, you just want an excuse to tongue assholes, faggot

>>71725764
They don’t get them taken away because Niji actually wants or does anything with them, anon. Ordering another would basically be going against the boss and you’d be lucky to only be fired for that when the company is Japanese.

>>71725076
Ok, so literally no one has fucking asked until now. Got it.

>>71742300
I'm failing to see your point. So he shouldn't complain because someone higher up on the chain also got fucked over?

>>71742548
Now that you mention it.
I also do know some investors on JP sites have begun to notice that EN is receiving unwarranted favoritism and wonder why they get more voice packs and merch than some veteran JP talents.
Funnily enough, they aint going off on Elira but Enna the most.

>>71743951
No, he should complain but he instead is acting like there is no problem and the people who complain are in the wrong.

>>71730397
because nijien sucks at it

>>71743951
Wrong. More people should complain, the problem is these talents are so brainwashed to accept that they don't even deserve something like a play button.
There is something really wrong here when someone actually begins to submit to the idea that even something as small as a play button has to be kept from them. That they don't even get this much. And make excuses for it.

This is literally and unironically cult shit.
And we know as a fact since last July that weird shit is going on ever since Riku told shareholders that talents undergo training lectures where they are taught to be compliant to the company and its policies.
We dont know happens in those but I fear the worst at this point.
Everyone who left the company sounds like they just escaped Ausschwitz and I am tired of pretending this is okay.

>>71744896
And by cult I mean cult. Like that weird shit in Yakuza with Shoree Pipi or whatever.

>>71744896
I agree that it's a black company but comparing an abusive corporate structure that aims to break your defiance, AKA a black company, to Ausschwitz and using a Yakuza game as a reference for a cult is uh...

You look like an underaged /v/tard basically. So stop posting for your own sake before you embarrass yourself further.

>>71725665
300 nijisanji vtubers and not a single one asked

>>71729389
>Sonny brisko faked his death.
I want to see a scenario where Sonny, tired of the clique, the graduation queue, and the restrictive contract, uses a familiar strategy to escape.
>Guys, Sonny's dead. Again.
>Whatever, send out a condolences tweet. He'll pop back up in a month or two.
>Does the contract get re-applied when he comes back?
>That's for Riku to decide.

>>71745799
NTA, but they also force talents (and artists) to go up in front of everyone and humiliate themselves as they read out a list of all their personal failings. How is this not cult-like behavior aimed at destroying any sense of self-worth?

The company really is cartoonishly evil.

>>71746048
Do they send the 50%/100% tax to the family if one of the livers dies?

>>71746048
>Does the contract get re-applied when he comes back?

>The following provisions shall survive and continue to be effective after the termination of this Agreement: Article 1; Article 3, paragraphs 4; Article 5; Article 10, paragraphs 4 and 5; Article 11; Article 12; Article 13; Article 14; Article 15, paragraph 2 through 8; Article 17, paragraph 2 and 3; Article 18, paragraph 1 through 6; Article 19; Article 219; Article 24; Article 27; Article 29 through 31.

Most of it, yes. (You can check out, but you can never leave.)

>>71746598
The thing with that is that if it's true, it cannot be legally enforced. They can try, but anyone in a decent country outside of Japan is safe.

>>71725368
>this anon bows to peer pressure

rumao

>>71746362
Thats why I reference the Yakuza cult, cause they are portrayed as cartoonishly evil to the point the cult leader yells he needs an ambulance and karma kicks in as all his followers ignore his pleas and kneel next to him doing the healing prayers he himself made up.

>>71725665
>oh by the way please let me remind you that we can 100% ask for them back, no this has nothing to do with ongoing drama

i have never heard such horseshit in my life

>>71746661
The gag order contract niji makes organs sign upon graduation may be a different story though, since it's short and more concise.
t. not a lawyer

>>71725665
I laugh, both at my increduity and the implication of this retard's statement.

>>71746362
>NTA, but they also force talents (and artists) to go up in front of everyone and humiliate themselves as they read out a list of all their personal failings. How is this not cult-like behavior aimed at destroying any sense of self-worth?
Wait, what? Is there documentation of this? I'd like to see this.

>>71746661
That's true of most of the contract though. It's not designed to hold up in a court of law, it's designed to terrify tubers into obedience when Niji makes threats by referencing it.

>>71747216
Revealed in the recent artist scandal and by commentary by various NijiJP livers bitching about it.

No idea if they've tried this in EN, but I wouldn't doubt it.

>>71725368
Fly to Japan
yoink the button
then graduate.

>>71747581
Damnit Anon...

Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADjz9U9nCGA
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1bacofz/artist_who_previously_worked_with_the_black/ (God I feel dirty linking r*dit though.)

>>71747813
Get arrested for theft

>>71747887
Anon, you may have to take a shower in bleach now.

>>71725368
stockholm syndrome israel huh

>>71725076
Riku must be most handsome man in the world. He has so many people willing to suck his dick for free

>>71739314
nijisisters know nothing about nijiJP

changing their policy to allow the talents to buy play buttons would be a great PR move for Nijisanji at no cost to them and would be huge middle finger to the terminated talents to boot

it's such a good idea that Nijisanji is never going to do it

>>71725076
What's this new meme? Did I miss another yab?

>>71750956
It would literally be the worst possible PR move.

>>71751110
why, there is literally zero downside

>>71751144
Well for one, it confirms that the talents couldn't order their own play buttons prior. And two, it's a minimal cost that wouldn't even be 0.0001% of Anycolor's profits that they're willing to put on the talents instead. Which is even worse optics.

>>71751323
And three, the original fact that IT'S THEIR OWN FUCKING PLAY BUTTON

>>71751396
Nah they're nothing without Nijisanji. They're not being abused at all!

>>71751323
so just don't release those details to the public
you can pretend that talents were allowed to do it all along (like this guy is pretending to) and undercut any criticism because then the NDF can just point to those examples of people who did get play buttons and say "nuh uh"

>>71727590
>>just ask
>and get denied
and get bonked just for asking
and get Selen'd out of the company

>>71747581
Considering how desperate they were to make Selen take the fall for her "management privated the video" and all of her apology tweets/community posts? They absolutely do something similar. I couldn't stand how often they made her apologize every time management screwed the pooch.

>>71751473
>so just don't release those details to the public
But they did.

>>71751144
>why, there is literally zero downside
because the jp organs will revolt due to riku basically bowing down to a foreign branch but not to their demands

>>71751729
>we already told everyone that we're being shitty but we have to keep being shitty because if we ever stop being shitty then people will know that we were being shitty

>>71751781
are you saying that the jp talents would not be happy to be allowed to purchase their own play buttons

>>71751898
they would not be happy that riku gave the ok because of en but never gave the ok when they were asking it for years

>>71752017
so tell them it's because of jp lol
it not like en just started asking for it either

>>71729030
Wait, what the fuck is that button Kaela received?

>>71751834
Yeah, they shouldn't have had years of people admitting they don't own their playbutton in the first place. Saying that
>okay, you guys can buy dupes of your own now
is putting a spotlight on it for the entire world to see. It won't please a single person because it should have happened from the outset and not become such a big issue that even fucking Iinchou would bring it up.

>>71739314
Sisters unironically do not know anything about the Japanese branch. When you go to EN threads and people don't know who Mito, Lulu, Rin, Kazuha, and Toko are, it really shows how much they only care about their sleeper Chinese branch.

>>71752062
>so tell them it's because of jp lol
dont think the jp would buy that anon and nijijp are especially autistic when when newcomers are given priority over them like with the whole salome and kanae thing

>>71752115
so don't fucking put a spotlight on it
just fix your damn mistake so that talents stop spinning bad PR for your company every single time they hit a milestone

>>71752161
>Kazuha
the EN thread has had a Rin!fag for ages and bought tickets to Mito's concert, by the way.

>>71752115
It would suggest there was some real change going on for easy PR points. Keeping the play buttons, while it doesn't seem a big deal, goes to the core of how horrific the culture is in that place.

Granted, so does bullying a girl trying to play NeoPets off the air, while claiming there's no bullying going on.

>>71752284
Kazuha named because he's the biggest Niji and ENtards still think that their branch holds more influence. Single outliers also don't count because they don't represent the community as a whole. Good for him regardless.

>>71725368
Are you fucking kidding me? I'd be the FIRST to ask. The company didn't do shit but hire me, I got them their money and all I want in return is my pathetic fucking trophy.
Complete set of liars. "Just ask" they say. They lie as easily as they breathe, and its sad because they're lying for a backwards ass company that like every other company, sees them as an asset.
I love that the implication here is that all they need to do is ask, but multiple talents have expressed their dissatisfaction over not getting it. Surely they must have asked? Embarrassing.

>>71752418
>>71752284
>>71752161
ok I actually don't know shit about Niji JP, but isn't it kuzuha? I'm losing my fucking mind at this spelling because I actually don't know enough to know if I've been wrong for so long.

>>71752108
Basically an award for the most successful streamer in ID
https://twitter.com/kaelakovalskia/status/1589945192798621698

>>71727353
He has a boyfriend, they lived together right short before debut.
Wouldn't surprise me if the contract required him to move out somewhere else because reasons

>>71751100
Claude tried to defend the company and effectively confirmed the rrat that they dont get their play buttons in the process.
He claims though everyone can have their button if they just fucking ask.

>>71755074
Which rrats were inadvertently proven plausible with this whole fiasco at this point?

Let me guess anons.
They can get their play buttons IF THEY ASK but, and this is a big but, they probably have to pay the company for it.

>>71755228
300 vtubers and nobody asked btw

>>71755228
If that was the case then someone would have done it by now. Literally no one has the fucking play button.

>>71755228
Selen would have asked and paid

>>71755228
>Of course you can get your button! Just sign here and pay 200 Dollars along with 10% interest every month.

Ok, Claude. Why didn't you fucking ask for your play button?

>>71755450
stolen from r*
>If you watch the full clip, Claude straight up says he feels he owes Nijisanji for his success so they can keep the button and that it's better to have it hung up at Anycolor because it's an "honor".

>>71755531
What a cuck holy shit. That says a lot about how he sees his audience as well.

>>71755531
Actual brainwashing.
Wait, was it Sayu who said the company will make you feel like you are nothing and that you owe them?
Cant recall what it was.

>>71755640
That was Sayu, yes.

>>71755640
Sayu. If I recall on JP side NotWarabeda said that as well. Claude is just a bootlicker though because he is a) new b) part of Elira's old friendsgroup

>>71755640
That was her iirc

>>71755640
>>71755695

I feel like I am beginning to see the idea.
Get folks who are young and with little work experience or streamers who are relatively new to it like Yugo, tell them all the crap and they eat it up cause they dont know better.

>>71755894
Which is why their attempts to control didn't work on a hag with experience of working for major tech corporations like Sayu.

>>71753870
Oh neat, I didn't even know they did things like that

>>71755894
Exactly

those many bits of their behind the scenes being exposed makes niji remind me of the 5 monkeys experiment

>monkeys were put inside a cage with a ladder out
>every time a monkey tried to climb the ladder, they were sprayed with icy water
>eventually, each time a monkey started to climb the ladder, the other ones pulled him off and beat him up so they could avoid the icy spray

Claude seems like an unlikable cunt DESU

Gotta say that it's fucking hilarious that even after all the drama they still don't let them have the fucking play buttons.

They can't afford to buy another button for the streamer?

>>71756549
You missed the most thought-provoking part of the experiment, where old monkeys are swapped for new monkeys who get taught the behaviour without understanding why the behaviour exists in the first place, inevitably leading to a point where a monkey steps on the ladders and makes the mistake all over again.

I think about this experiment a lot in regards to how the mistakes of the past inevitably get made again.

>>71756645
You think Anycolor actually internalized any of the feedback leaving EN fans were giving them? The fact that the investor Q&A didn't signal any sort of turnaround in strategy and that EN is only being assured that good things are coming with no updates since the Riku apology with specifics makes it a nigh impossibility.

>>71756711
They can, but they don't want to risk the streamers getting any funny ideas about leaving.

>>71756855
Yeah I rushed that in and forgot about it

>>71756938
I thought investors started raising questions about talents leaving late last year.

>>71746598
see the thing is that this is literally impossible to enforce anywhere, on earth or beyond - i'm sure any alien civilization, no matter how advanced, would immediately see past the 'when this contract is null and void, parts of the contract (which is now null and void) are not null nor void because we said so'. Even if you accept this retarded line of thinking and accept it as it is, the list of articles that are supposed to carry over after termination does NOT contain the article itself that contains it, which is a hilarious self own.
That single article by itself really proves that this isn't as much of a legal document as it only exists to filter out anyone who isn't, like, not even rights-savvy, but anyone who can use common sense. It's supposed to scare people who sign it. It's so full of shit it's not enforceable at any level - but you don't want to fight against a massive corpo, do you? Especially a JP one that holds your work visa, mayhaps?

>>71757172
They were worried about losses made from graduations.

>>71757329
>It's supposed to scare people who sign
That's pretty much it. It's the same thing as when they asked Zaion to sign under 1 hour the contract agreeing to her termination.

>>71757329
It's not about whether you'll win the court case; it's about whether you can even afford to try in the first place. Right and wrong doesn't matter if you don't have the money.

>>71757347
To be fair, as an investor, I would be worried if some the branch's biggest income revenues were being lost one after the other and people were seemingly sitting on their hands

>>71726689
IWANAGA GIVE IT BACK YOU FILTHY THIEF

>>71727445
*sigh* at least he and Aia are a couple now

>>71725368
I would be that guy tho. I'd show it to me mum.

>>71725665
>The fact that I even have a button to begin with

But...you don't, that's what people are criticizing

>>71729030
cute Kobo

>>71725076
The stupid thing is that they can regain so much goodwill by simply returning the playbuttons.
>Elira comes back, apologizes for the black stream
>Have various streamers show off the play buttons you've returned
>Give dates for more 3D debuts
The expectations are so low they can probably regain most of the trust they've lost by simply doing these three things.

>>71758846
>Elira comes back, apologizes for the black stream
Apologizing would mean admitting they were in the wrong. They will never do that.
>Have various streamers show off the play buttons you've returned
Then everyone would want theirs.
>Give dates for more 3D debuts
They literally can't because they don't have any more models ready. And if they do, they are waiting for incoming graduations Vox so they can record everything.

>>71725076
>>71725665
Button Cuck

>>71759136
>Apologizing would mean admitting they were in the wrong. They will never do that.
At the very least they can say it was inconsiderate of her situation.
>Then everyone would want theirs.
Yes, they'll have to return all the play buttons to everyone. Riku lost 1/3 of his company's evaluation, a few play buttons are nothing compared to even more market fuckery happening to him.
But ultimately yes, Riku's pride is the architect of this tragedy.

>>71755640
Sayu yes.
https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?t=263

And the NDF are actually retarded when it comes to the livers not getting the play buttons,
Including saying things like “What if someone broke into their house and saw the button! Their identity could be exposed!”

>>71759714
>What if someone broke into their house
ironic since NDF would be the first people breaking into their houses. Doxxers and stalkers the lot of them.

>>71759327
>At the very least they can say it was inconsiderate of her situation.
You don't seem to understand how Niji works. If you don't play by their rules, you are the enemy. No one will help you. Your coworkers will gladly throw you under the bus. Trying to make things right with Doki will just make the company look weak, and that's the last thing they want right now.
>Yes, they'll have to return all the play buttons to everyone. Riku lost 1/3 of his company's evaluation, a few play buttons are nothing compared to even more market fuckery happening to him.
Again, their whole business strategy is treating the organs like trash. It's not a problem with some of the managers, it's literally Nijisanji working as intended.

Sure, they could try to get some easy PR wins by returning the play buttons and patching things up with Doki, but they don't care. They will keep their head down, wait for the torment to pass and then go back to milking their slaves dry. And if the company goes under before things can go back to normal, they will move on to the next grift.

>>71759714
picture a nigga with a balaclava after breaking through the window
>notices the play button on the wall
>HOLYSHIT THIS IS THE HOUSE OF ELIRA PENDORA FROM NIJISANJI EN'S FIRST WAVE LAZULIGHT???

I love niji defense sisters mental loops about playbuttons

>>71725665
I want to see someone in en just fucking ask and report back since jp didn't get through when they tried.

>>71759714
>"What if someone broke into their house and saw the button! Their identity could be exposed!"
https://youtu.be/6bfBhIM5tb4

>>71760863
>breaks into the house of Kunai
>oh shit it is thhe house of Kunai Naksato from Nijisanji EN
>leaves some money on the table

>>71762047
LMAO

Stock trading begins in 2 hours

>>71762047
I feel so fucking bad for her man

>>71762047
I don't think I've ever seen a stream make $2 before.

>>71762232
hope she's looking into a way out from there ASAP, they're a legit hindrance for her it seems

>>71762461
she only gets roughly a third from those $2 as well...

>>71760863
>Balaclava nigga breaks into a random house
>Finds the play button in the wall
>"Holy shit, this is my oshi's house"
>Leaves a note with some money
>The note says "love your streams, enjoy this supa"
Dunno what they're so worried about, sounds like a cool anecdote to tell in a stream.

>>71762561
Whatever bullshit is in that contract, at least penalties for quitting early are legally enforceable. She's stuck in there with the rest of them.
Vile fucking company.

>>71725129
fixed

>>71738322
nah, Nijis not getting their play buttons was known for quite some time, I remember it getting talked before Mysta graduated

>>71762756
>penalties for quitting
they are going to enforce a total of 50 dollars and a mcrib if she leaves

>>71762980
YOU THINK SHE CAN AFFORD THAT!?

>>71762741
You could at least nick a pair of knickers for your effort.

>>71762461
I dont even see clippers for this one, thought she was one of those indie Niji orbiters lmao!

>>71763311
you are right my bad anon I posted without thinking.

>>71763572
To be fair to her, she had to take a month off for medical reasons. Then when she came back the shitshow happened.

>>71751100
you could just fucking ask anon

>>71755211
It's a long list, anon.

>>71755640
Selen and Mika both heavily, heavily hinted at it, too. Mika was doomposting about how garbage she felt and how she was useless and made a big deal back in october about how she just finally realized she wasn't, and Doki's doomposting after coming back from the hospital was heartbreaking.

>>71725665
I think its genuinely amazing how Nijisanji let their reputation get stained over and over to this degree over some retarded petty trinket that they could get an extra of for 150 bucks.

>>71767877
Ordering duplicates will devalue the originals, and Riku is a petty ass clown.

>>71767190
I gotta be honest with you, I actually started laughing today as I was having my coffee at work like a lunatic because this whole December situation was so absurd and stupid. God, she's so silly. I don't know how you feel worthless when strangers send you money for just sounding nice to them. Like shit, if some pencilneck paper pusher told me through DMs how "YOU OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY" I'd be pretty chill after seeing the money I made over the course of 3 years of practically hardly any labour and all the fan support I have. Even if they took half of her super chat earnings alone, she'd still have like over 200k USD for idk zero labour really. Last Cup of Coffee indeed. Yeah, before you say anything. I am utterly cynical and I can't help it.

>>71768213
Petty is the perfect word. The dictionary definition of "petty" should just be an image of the nijisanji logo. The motherfuckers actually took the company that used to dominate the market and nuked it into the ground just using the sheer force of pettiness and japanese "I must double triple quadruple quintuple down on my mistakes I must save face!!! shamefur dispray!". Its a story genuinely on par with Aesop's fables.

>>71725076
So they care enough about it to post it on Twitter but not enough to actually .. ask for it? Either the dumb button means something or it doesnt.

>ex-hanamori
>ex-tsunderia
>NDF
>kisses other nijien guys
The only thing he's useful for is his singing voice

>>71768934
>ex-tsunderia
Perhaps I have judged Elira too harshly. Maybe blue is the wrong target colour.

>>71731446
NIJISEETHE

>>71768934
He's ex Tsunderia? I thought the white rabbit was still around and the other blue dude is just trapped in idolEN's mixing room.

>>71768934
>ex-tsunderia
Oh god no...

>>71768563
I still think about the aftermath a lot. It's pretty fucked up, but after she stopped tweeting, the goons were FREAKING OUT trying to find any info about her to see if she was alive... only to find out that she was changing her fucking steam names to send out little updates. She was completely silenced on all public accounts, but she was still shitposting via this tiny little way that nobody but a few goons would ever actually be able to find or see. I want to believe it was like a little ARG to keep herself sane and give us a few smiles even if she's completely gagged.
Some of these were wild btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVqsQ-9GLLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiP0LhF1vk0

>>71768934
>ex-tsunderia
I never head that before. Is he actually the blue guy?

>>71769926
>plugging in her cc
lmao

>>71758323
Are they actually?

>>71725665
Why do niji males all have this condescending aura surrounding them
Is this a requirement to be a male vtuber in niji, or do you become this way after joining niji?

>>71727445
>>71725076

God, at this rate even an Amazon warehouse would be more fulfilling and rewarding work. What the fuck is wrong with this company.

>>71725665
>https://streamable.com/6bdn1b
dumb animal

Imagine shilling for a company that is so dogwater garbage, that they need to be propped up by the stock market and have sales of their stock ACTIVELY BE HELD BACK in order to stay afloat KEK

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>>71770401
I honestly think it sticks on you after joining. I don't think even luxiem had it on debut.

>>71770603
Maybe its some feeling of elitism? Like "I got into this dying corp and you guys didn't"? That, or feeling like they're part of some secret club.

>>71762461
Red pill me on this titty monster. I know her PL did better than current. But is she actually entertaining or Naw?

>>71769926
>lowest point in her life
>attempted suicide
>the only thing keeping her attached to her mortal coil... is her growing collection of Fortnite skins
Actually kinda cute. I know the feel.

>>71772016
Those aren't fortnite skins. She also does not play fortnite. I'm not even sure if she has a creator code.
Those are youtube links.

>>71762047
Fucking lmao
Too bad that wouldn't happen because Kunai would pawn the thing or sell it to a junkyard to be paid its weight in iron or whatever its made out of. Gotta pay the bills and the Niji gig sure isn't doing it...

>>71768934
>>71769302
>>71769508
>>71769653
>>71769949
He's not ex-Tsunderia, he was roommates (in the literal sense) with an ex-Tsunderia

>>71770423
KEK

>>71762047
jesus lmao

>>71770592
So it's a kind of short-sale circuit breaker I take it? How long will this be effective?

>>71770592
Is that why their stock is currently going up?

>>71725816
What's really crazy is in his PL he used to do an irregular dudes being bros podcast that he seemed to really enjoy. That would be prime fujo/sister bait content.

Hopefully he hasn't swallowed the company mandated gaslighting that they're nothing without the company and can never hope for anything better.

>>71725665
What he doesn't mention is that if they ask, they have to pay for the 2nd copy of the fucking button themselves and it's a couple hundred dollars or something.

>>71773522
That's pocket change for them, especially the bigger people like Selen or Mysta. The thing he didn't mention is that if you ask you'll likely be stealth suspended and have all of your projects have mysterious perm issues.

>>71770423
lemaooooo

>>71768563
It looks silly from the outside anon, but really everything is relative. They get this opportunity and they can immediately see new possibilities that wouldn't even be dreams before. Dreams that are within reach with just a little hard work and a little support from your management. Combine that with the isolation of showbiz, even virtual showbiz, and you have a recipe for melodrama and hypersensitive emotions. If you ever watch those reality game shows like survivor and big brother, some people become emotional wrecks when they're on the shows because they are isolated from everything except the other contestants.Inside isolated environments, every little slight or insult becomes magnified a hundredfold.

>>71725665
why is this stream privated now?

>>71775389
Cause he's a cowardly cuck.
But in reality management probably reamed him for even talking about it. The drama is kind of settling and this is just opening up the wounds again. That's what any competent PR team would do

>>71775389
His ass is about to get vacationed

>>71775637
>>71775658
which is funny because the chat was fellating him in that clip lmao

>>71775783
yeah but the teenage fujos are not seeing the big picture. As long the embers of dissent are there all it takes is one incident to set the place on fire again. And we all know NijiEN will have a major yab sooner rather than later.

>>71770858
I watched her a bit before her break and niji shitstorm. she's a bit of a hag, autistic about the games she likes like hollow knight, and can be pretty entertaining with her zatsus. I liked having her in the background, and she streamed at decent times for me (around 12pm est). random stuff I remember from her streams is that she had to work hard for her tuition scholarship in college, drawing some emotes of rats for her memberships, cuphead collab with Vivi, and trying to pawn off a couch out of her house while having a hand injury (first reserving it for someone, but after that fell through, just letting anyone who could take it off her hands have it for 20 dollars as long as they did the transporting)

>>71725665
>>71726689

>>71776136(me)
personally, I think she's okay and mostly just got fucked by the circumstances like vivi, though worse with her break and not having as many people cocernfagging for her. she's new and wasn't a nepo-hire like Claude. she was probably expecting at least some kind of support from niji who completely dropped the ball on that (no marketing, no fanfare, literally didn't even give their wave a name, so they just call themselves Triple T).

her already small momentum from debut stopped because she had to take a break for a month for health reasons, and then the selen shitshow happened while she was gone.

>>71725076
Groomersanji and its consequences

>>71759320
KEK

>>71775783
Yeah I mean the only reason we even know ahout this is because one of his retard fujos thought it was a good thing to clip and now it's forever immortalised.
Never underestimate the nijisister urge to score own goals

>>71776901
What existing in an echo chamber does to a motherfucker

>>71728855
That sounds too stupid to be true but it would explain a lot. Is this why Elira hasn't streamed in weeks? Not because she's lying low, but because she's going flat out for 8+ hours a day posting bait threads on /vt/??

>>71728855
>>71777303
There's circumstantial evidence that Enna, Finana, and Reimu have made posts /here/, and we know for a fact that most of them at least lurk (pic rel), so much so that Reimu's third most visited site is /vt/ and her seventh most visited is tge archives.

This is so fucking dumb. I refuse to believe that a company can act this willfully retarded.
>"Oh hey, all of our problem kids have come from this one specific indie group. We should totally continue to hire exclusively from there."
The only way this computes for me is that either the rrat about Elira running NijiEN is true or that Nijisanji has ever fewer management than we think and they can't even vet their new livers' PL accounts before debuting them.

>>71772309
The actual ex-Tsunderia member would have been a better get. Tsunderia had an eye for talent, but they were just mismanaged to shit.

>>71777644
Its hard not to believe the "Elira was a shadow manager" rrat after a while, or the idea that her decisions held tons of weight behind the scenes. Tons of merch, being pushed as the "face of the branch" in marketing materials compared to Pomu who was more popular/profitable, having tons of her friends be brought into the company? After a while it just starts to add up.

>>71777644
Anon... They hired a convicted rapist who said he was only applying so he could rape the girls. And he said it publicly on social media.
He not only made it through the audition process, I think he debuted...

>>71777565
>checks playboard often
>is one of the lowest nijien liver in ccv and subs
She's a masochist AND a numberfag and /here/ too

>>71725076
does anyone have the update images of these famous quotes?

>>71777565
The enna one is the funniest shit I've seen. Reminder that it came a little bit after her "Don't worry about the haters, I'll handle them." speech.

>>71779664
>Enna
>Calling her Dookiebutt
Checks out. They love to Freudian slip like this, Finana did it too.

>>71779919
Oh, and the kicker? The night afterwards she missed a collab due to "feeling sick." She spent so long on /vt/ she missed her collab the next day.

>>71780022
Well you do have to be an ego tripping narcissist to become a streamer, along with being women we shouldn't really be surprised

>>71779664
I refuse to believe someone actually caught themselves in a "Mozart can't be alive" joke post.

>>71776901
that retarded fujo accidentally extended the drama again, no fucking way. I'm out of the door now, even this drama is pissing me off

did she actually just reference my post from way earlier or am I losing it, either way I understand but she should be proud and take care of herself

>>71782390
Lol, do you also have /shon/ open in another tab?

>>71782501
No but it's funny just how many implications can come from your post. Anyway don't worry about it.

>>71772087
She absolutely does play Fortnite and does have a creator code which apparently does still work
https://youtu.be/5RTg0goxJOY

>>71783829
oh right I forgot about that.
...Wait, so she got into fortnite after that selen stream? poor thing. Thank god she has managers now to keep her from spending half a day's superchats on fucking fortnite skins.

>>71744136
>Enna
Who the fuck wants to hear her voice?

>>71725665
but why does the company do this? what is the benefit?