/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71685831
Because Niji is awful and stunts creativity

>>71685831
Aggressive marketing.

Because the previous examples actually provide a support network where when you leave them you're floundering and unsure of how to manage yourself.
The latter gives you zero support and is if anything an active detriment. Getting out is like taking the weighted clothes off.

>>71685831
Because its entirely fake, nobody cares about her they just hate Niji. She's the Biden of vtubers, if she never had Niji yab she'd be at 800 viewers

>implying Selen's career got "revitalized" at all
>implying she's not riding a temporary boost from saviorfags and dramanigs
Your oshi isn't going to have a "career" to speak of in a year or two.

>>71685920
You watch too much anime, "weighted clothes" dont work like that (and barely do at all)

>>71685920
>Getting out is like taking the weighted clothes off.
So basically what you're saying is that a chuba survives wactor and nijisanji would be invincible?

>>71686026
it's a fucking metaphor you autist

>>71685831
She's an opportunistic fat BPD whore. It will come around in time, wait until she starts showing off her shitty personality again

>>71685831
i think you misunderstand the situation
people don't actually want to see doki succeed, they just want to see nijisanji fail

>>71686060
Yeah and a shit one. Imagine using an anime metaphor casually and calling someone else an autist, hit the gym dork

>>71686084
This. Do you think she herself is aware of the reality of the situation?

>>71685831
Implying that Doki has a "career" is a stretch, anon.

>>71685831
Nyanners and Vei numbers tanked because open bf. They're about on par with her numbers at the end of their stint in vshojo. Silvervale is doing as well as she ever was. Nazuna is just a trainwreck.

Nobody knows why they get the numbers that they do. They just get lucky. It's all about being in the right place at the right time.

>>71686076
We don't talk about Enna here

>>71686276
Why don't they just keep up the kayfabe and not mention their bfs?

>>71686279
Yeah like riding an entire hate train into becoming a successful indie tuber.

>>71686013
>"j-just two more weeks"
keep coping, pagpag sisturd

>>71686076
>She's an opportunistic fat BPD whore
She's not Mikeneko

>still seething about Dokibird six weeks in
deranged

>>71685831
Vei’s career didn’t stagnate.

>>71685880
fpbp

>>71686243
>Do you think she herself is aware of the reality of the situation?
Not at all. She's currently under the delusion that people actually watch her because they find her entertaining, despite the fact that she bleeds thousands of viewers off her CCV from stream to stream. Since she's already hired a bunch of people to help her out, as well, she's probably going to be firmly in debt by the time she figures out what was really going on the whole time.

>>71686138
tourist, go back to r*ddit.

>>71686354
>doki
>successful
you won't be saying that in a year, once she's a 3view at best

>>71686272
She'll join OTK or Mythic.

>>71686529
Nice cope sister, but it will be not 3views for doki, it will be 3 cellmates for Vox Pedophile Akuma.

>>71686529
Any day now, sister!

are you all going to kill yourselves when Doki is still thriving next year?

>>71686603
She's not going to be relevant enough for either of those groups to want her once the niji hate train inevitably loses steam

are sisters up early today because its monday in southeast asia

>>71686824
They also have some mudslime shit rn when they need to stay awake or something (?)

>>71686672
>implying Doki is "thriving" now
she's only "successful" by indie standards. even less established holos have more of a following than she does, she'll never catch up with fuwamoco for example

>>71686076

>>71686960
But how about comparing her with nijisanji?

>>71686138
>Anime reference on an anime board
Yes, and?

>>71686930
The ramadhan thingy?

>>71686960
>she's only "successful" by indie standards
>is an indie
wow genius post
yeah being an indie means you get to keep all your money, so in fact you don't need as many fans

>>71686960
>comparing one vtuber to a duo
Nice to see Doki bears that much consideration

>>71686026
>You watch too much anime

>>71687208
niji standards are incredibly low, enough to be even more of a joke than any standard by which doki could be considered "successful"
>>71687370
mumei literally got picked up by holo at the same time she got hired by niji, and is more successful/relevant than doki ever will be in her entire life. video related

>>71686138
Here's a metaphor you might like:
Imagine walking into a Chinese restaurant, and complaining that there's Chinese food there.

it's funny that sisters call selen fat when she's one of the slimmest niji ens relatively speaking

>>71686308
enna is not fat and i would have sex with her

>>71687505
they're having hot steamy lesbian sex right now

>>71687577
Scat don't turn you on anymore?

>>71686960
>she isn't the most popular vtuber on the planet, therefore she's an absolute failure
???

>>71687505
>using mumei of all people

>>71687078
Hot... I kneel...

>>71687645
>she's slightly less successful than her best friend in the whole world, owned chud!
Are you a nijisister? Serious question.

>>71687634
fuwamoco aren't the most popular vtubers on the planet either, but they're successful. doki isn't, and never will be
>>71687645
fauna is another example if you want one

>>71686013
>>71686076
shes still mogging all your livers in ccv and superchats

>a vtuber is only successful if I decide they are

>>71687780
>slightly less successful than her best friend
she's so much less successful that she tried to end her own life
that's not "slightly less successful" you fuckin' niji sympathizer

>>71687482
>>71687518
Actually funny

>>71687903
ina's another example of a vtuber who actually has a "career" worth speaking of, plus her art is miles better than doki's is on top of having a more successful career

>>71687621
?context?

>>71687814
>>71687906
So you're just a blatantly dishonest person. Got it.

>>71687989
>her art is miles better than doki's is
JUST FIRE IN ALL DIRECTIONS UNTIL SOMETHING STICKS AHHHHHH

Reminder that NotSelen's numbers being big right now is a good thing.
She's a shit talent so her number will diminish after 1-2 months at the latest, but 1) her good performance right after exit is bound to destabilise niji further in the short term, which coupled with how negative peoples opinion of nijien is right now might lead to further graduations or terminations, or even potentially a total collapse; 2) even after her decline into a 5k chuuba (in the medium term) those are still better numbers than most of nijien, thus proving to them, that going indie might be a viable option (due to their cuts being significantly better), while at the same time not being appetising to hololive streamers (even if you discount the much larger opportunities they get from being in hololive, NotSelen got pretty much the best possible and cleanest cut away from niji and she still won't incline, with hololive cuts being significantly better, there's really no need to risk that chance of fucking it up); 3) >We (yes we) get a free bludgeoning weapon against niji. Don't let the falseflaggers get to you, NotSelen is not competition against hololive. The sort of content she offers is unrelated to what holoens offer, and long term her numbers will only be competitive against the runts of holoen anyway, and at the same time highly competitive, if not overwhelming, to the "biggest" that nijien has to offer while much closer in content to what they provide.

Note: This doesn't mean that >we should promote her, she's still ex-niji trash that would be better off not existing, but even trash does have its uses, and because she, by herself, is much less of a "threat" to the status quo of hololive than nijien if i have to pick a side between her and niji, I'd pick hers

>>71686013
and your oshi is not streaming... paki chan...

>>71685831
>phase
Who has left phase? Iirc it's only one termination, no?

>>71685831
>Why does this happen?
That's quite simple. Hololive's bots can't follow you after your graduation.

>>71688344
You're the fucking paki bastard around here ahmed

>>71685831
The sisters campaign has failed so hard the only thing they have left is falseflag as their enemy (holobros) to shit on Doki lmao

>>71686076
Yes, Enna, we know you are.
Stop fishing for pity compliments.

>>71687994
Enna is worse than scat, and you are really desperate.

>>71690180
One tactic fagoons love to use - claiming that everyone who doesn't like their oshi and wants them to stay the fuck away from Hololive are actually nijisisters.
Bonus points for posting roommate shit about Mumei and then pretending like hoomans in particular don't have perfectly valid reasons hate them.

>>71690630
Thanks for proving my point sister

>>71686013
>temporary boost meme
Nigga it's been 6 weeks, the boost ended. a month ago.

>>71686013
Don't you dare use Mio for your slander, you pagpag femcel

>>71686044
Well, yeah there's pretty much nothing that will phase Doki anymore now that she's crawled out of hell.

>>71690784
More cope from a fan of the current FotM holo reject.

>>71690881
Is this the new sister campaign?
Calling someone who never applied to holo, a "holo reject"? Retard.

>>71687814
falseflagging as a holobrony won't help your case, sister

>>71691023
You're actually retarded if you think she didn't apply to Hololive and get rejected.

>>71691023
>Is this the new sister campaign?
New? It's old as hell, they're just going into overdrive.

>>71690180
This pretty much. They know no one likes them, they are angry screaming at a screen only made things worse for them, so they try to hope someone will sustain their bullshit. All will not change that literally everyone who left Niji felt better and did better. Not only Doki, even Pomu got closer to her idols that Niji ever allowed her to.
Literal spawn of a cancerous company. Can’t wait to br gone so /vt/ will ovjectively get better when they will find their next stalking victim in some kpop bot.

>>71691077
Proof?

>>71691118
>New? It's old as hell
except that doesn't even make sense, because the talents they want to defend are in nijisanji and, by definition, hololive rejects who will never perform on stage for an audience

>>71691023
They are finally realizing that all they did only made theur life worse, but are too mentally retarded so they will scream and cry louder until things will be solved by someone else.
Sadly we mature people have to babysit them in these times of them discovering how irrelevant they are to the world.

>>71686076
remember fellow nijiniggers we were always at war with selen, we were always at war with pomu, nina, mysta, kyo.... none of you niggers actually watch streams do you?

>>71686447
Two days ago she had 11k people watching her browse the Steam sale.

>>71691313
>we have to babysit them
Nah, you ignore sisters. They're too self-conscious to samefag so when a thread only has 1 the argument basically ends after every post already has a single reply. It's sad, really.

>>71691424
>we were always at war with selen
unironically fagoons never fit in with the rest of the nijiEN fanbase, to the extent that they had to make their own thread

>>71685831
>Her fanbase from Niji
>People who hate Nijisanji and see her as a sort of figurehead to rally behind
>Normalfags who love a sobstory
>Dramaniggers
>Holo fans who like Mumei and want to help her "friend" out of solidarity
>Alienated Niji fans
>Saviorfags
And probably many more groups.
Dokis growth is in no way natural and she lucked out immensely by getting so much attention and support from different sources who were all unified against a common enemy. Using her as an example for how much better it is to leave Niji or stay an indie in general is braindead considering context and the fact that all the growth was ultimately still thanks Niji being a trainwreck in the first place.

>>71690630
I strive to be as happy as that dragoon.
Truly a force for good in the world.
>>71690180
They've been falseflagging as different groups for a full month now. They've been trying to pit niji against doki, sayu against doki, doki against sayu, niji against sayu, ruffians against doki, hoomans against doki (lol), vshojo against doki, vshojo against sayu.
Thankfully since they're all 15 year old underdeveloped schoolgirls, they're obvious as fuck.

>>71691578
>the rest of the nijiEN fanbase
You mean chinese and SEA fujo sisters? (in other words, Vox dicksuckers)

>>71690630
>fagoons
You make it so easy sisters.

>>71691578
Not fitting in with /nijien/ is a good thing, have you seen that thread?

>>71691077
She literally applied with Mumei to nijisanji thinking she had also applied to niji with her while Mumei thought the opposite. How on earth does that count as applying for holo?

>>71691588
>Holo fans who like Mumei and want to help her "friend" out of solidarity
I guarantee you, no real hooman actually thinks like this.
In fact, most of us wish mumei would just cut contact with her entirely and not use her roommate account anymore, but that's another topic

>>71685831
Dokibird is going the way of mikeneko next month.

>>71691578
>to the extent that they had to make their own thread
You mean like fans of Rosemi, and Pomu, and Petra, and Elira? If you go into those generals you can see them complain about /NijiEN/ because it's now filled with fags and SEA fujos.

>>71691913
>1710

>>71691913
And I say you're not a real hooman so your opinion doesn't count, checkmate.

>>71691841
Honestly, considering how Selen was part of the wave 1 batch for NijiEN, holo was the only "gigantic" one at the time that she could have applied for too, I really wouldn't be surprised if she applied to both. After Myth's success, you'd be crazy not to shoot your shot. Only really the bark knights could answer what she was doing back then though.

>>71691774
My favourite is when they start larping as either side of the Jap Pink Cat comeuppance.

>>71686354
>he thinks i watched her hatebait streams

>>71691913
False-flagging nigger

>>71686372
roru

>>71691588
This pretty much sums it up.
Nobody cares if Doki succeeds - she's irrelevant, an afterthought of a vtuber from the get-go. But we want to see Nijisanji fail. We want to see Riku and the clique members get their just desserts. If Doki mattered, she'd have joined Hololive. But she didn't and now what we have is her instead being (ironically) useful as the catalyst for the worst stain on the vtuber community in general imploding completely.

>>71692260
Sister, your falseflag operation has been uncovered, stop trying

>>71692260
>1710
>>71691913
>1710
Try harder samefag

>>71692365
Doki should have tried harder and gotten into Hololive. Maybe then she'd actually matter.

>>71686447
Nice samefagging sister. She had 11,000 people watching her look at games on Steam two days ago.

>>71686673
>TU MOR WEAKS

>>71685964
Seethe sister

>>71686673
>Proof nijisis can’t read a calendar as two more weeks passed thrice and she still does 7k at WORSE.

>>71692444
Your headcanon is not reality

>>71692018
I think her and Mumei must have applied for both since they both thought the other got into the same company as them when they told each other their audition was successful.

>>71692444
Prove she applied to Hololive. Show me any evidence of her ever saying that. You've refused to answer other anons who've asked you in this thread so I assume you'll do the same this time too.

>>71686076
So true sister.

This false-flag is just a diversion for Anycolor's stock opening.

>>71685831
This thread actually confirmed one thing for me.

Sisters are genuinely worried about the stock prices. Why else would they be going into overdrive at this specific hour on a weekday? This is their last hour before it all goes to shit.

>>71692444
...Why? She doesn't sing. She doesn't dance. She loves playing games and mods that would require weird or nonexistent perms. She constantly male collabs and is the antithesis of GFE. She can't do ASMR, either.
Being a large indie is absolutely the best case scenario for her, and at the time it was believed that Niji might allow her to do at least most of what she wanted.

>>71692663
>>71692638
Speaking of, did they plummet?

>>71692776
TSE doesn't open for another half hour. Thanks daylight savings...

>>71692776
jp markets open in 35 minutes I think

>>71692692
This. Honestly one of the main reason I follow her is that she’s a vstreamer. Not an idol or a GFE, just a person golt to watch that makes me laugh with her.
Not everyone needs to find romantic validation online, Njisis.

>>71692776
Opens in just over 30 minutes.

>>71692776
Nothing yet
>>71589019

>>71692844
>>71692837
>>71692823
>>71692815
Fuck forgot about daylight savings

>This is now Anycolor stock bread
>Well will it?

>>71692638
>>71692663
Ohhhhh, oh that makes a lot of sense.
>>71692692
The weird thing about her is she's always had a gachikoi audience. Selen's fanbase mystifies me in the same way as Vox's, albeit slightly differently. With Vox, you have a normally volatile fanbase (underaged chinese women) who are more obsessed with him than any girl I've ever seen screeching about boybands back in highschool. He could fucking say "I hate chinks" and they'd cream themselves like when an /r9k/ poster or fa/g/got gets called a faggot.

But with Selen, she doesn't do fucking anything to get gachis. She's the anti-thesis to gachikoi in almost every single way. But they're still a very large chunk of her fanbase, and the weird icing on this weird cake is they're not even aggressive compared to some gachikoi's. They're a fucking enigma.

>>71692692
>She can't do ASMR
The bedtime story ASMR was funny as fuck though.

>>71692776
JP sharebro are a mess, but since nothing has been done by Riku, I expect either a massive plummet or an attempt to pump and dump. One thing for sure, there are a lot of dissatisfaction for the lack of a plan from Riku. “We will recover eventually, trust us” is not someone losing money wants to hear.

>>71686447
What kind of cope is this sister ?
She's a 4 view after more than a month of the incident. She had 11k on a Steam sale stream
It's time to surrender, just pray that niji doesn't implode tomorrow

>>71692776
Adding onto others, you'll see something very funny when it opens. I recommend looking up the term "dead cat bounce". Maybe adds "stocks" as a modifer just in case you're worried about seeing actually dead cats bouncing.

>>71690867
You know the saying "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"?
That saying is retarded.
What doesn't kill you still makes you weaker, softens you up for then ext thing that comes along aiming to slaughter you.
Doki has had multiple tastes of suicide already, even the slightest setback could set her off.

>>71692965
Will it continue to fall? Or beat the odds and rise to the top.
Opinions, Thoughts, and Predictions?

Here's a pic of DokiBird looks sexy just to piss off her haters

>>71686372
>BPD
definitely
>whore
clearly
>fat
actually untrue

>>71693099
Are you speaking from personal experience? Because I can see your scowl and hear your aggressive typing from here sister.

>>71692982
And don’t forget, 100% revenue from prizes, membership, merchandise and everything else. No yachtphile leech. She would be fine at 4k too like most average big indies.
All sis have is massive cope because she’s actually gonna thrive and has actially used her good wave to do charity, which completely denies their motive.

>B-but charity is a sca—
Then report the site she used to the authorities. Nothing happens? Cope and seethe.

>>71693099
Who cares concernfaggot. This is now an Anycolor stock bread. Cope.

>>71686348
Because people would dig and find out anyway, honesty is the best policy, you lie about it you end up doing the Mikeneko shit over and over

>>71692836
>Honestly one of the main reason I follow her is that she’s a vstreamer. Not an idol or a GFE, just a person golt to watch that makes me laugh with her.
So, you're basically admitting to being an ironic weeb, and enjoying Doki because she caters to ironic weebs like you. Good shit dragoons, gotta love the honesty that you know you're actively making the hobby worse for everyone.

>>71692977
Yeah it was, but there's a reason she not only doesn't do regular asmr, but for the charity she not only pledged another one at a high value as a rare event, but also roped her manager in to do one too.
>>71692967
Yeah, honestly I find it hard to grasp, too, but she's just a really fun personality with a lot of bright energy. I absolutely despise FPS games like Apex, but she's got such a great vibe and charisma I just want to follow her and laugh along, too. Her serious effort really shines through with all of her fan projects and how involved she always is with her community both directly and indirectly, so projects feel like a collaborative effort and reward even if you actually didn't have much to do with it.

>>71693185
If she's not flat, she's fat

>>71688318
Mucho Texto, sister

Verification not required.

>>71693185
>falseflag tactic change
much
>hotel
trivago

>>71685831
many people here ahave pointed out how Kunai is doing worse in niji than she was as an indie.
Being in niji is just that much of a debuff now

Here's another DokiBird pic just too piss you guys off

>>71693257
>she says while posting on the board that is the literal embodiment of a raping of a fanbase

>Sisters are now tryharding.
Anycolor is dying. Seethe. kek

>>71693257
Nice strawman sister

>>71693257
>Implying people into Vtubers aren’t basically into animated figures
Sis, you are TRULY losing the ficking narrative here. Who think makes the fucking hobby, the parasocials?

>>71693327
I'm just here thoroughly enjoying this disaster that keeps on giving.
Everyone I liked in Nijisanji has already left (Save for one, who is leaving next month).

>>71693403
parasocials think they're dating DokiBird and legit wanna fuck her go check /haha/ its sad dude

>>71686276
Pretty sure Vei and Filian have the OTK viewer buff

>>71693439
>Save for one, who is leaving next month
Who is it?

>>71693439
I don't remember any graduation for April

>>71693335
To be fair, most EN vtubers are just like Doki, and cater to ironic weebs. Even Hololive didn't really get the whole "western vtuber" thing truly right until FWMC debuted, they're the only ones who can actually keep up their kayfabe

>>71693473
You could say that about every general in /vt/ dude it's not exclusive to /haha/

>>71693473
>parasocials
Ok Fianna lmao

>>71693553
Give it time and that will change, Holo is just Niji with better lawyers

>>71685831
Drama buff

>>71693257
You might feel more comfortable on /jp/.

>>71693473
>think they're dating dokibird
...What? I'm a regular poster there and the closest thing to that is us joking about our dokiwife or how fun she'd be to fuck.

>>71693473
The way you type "Dokibird" is just like a SEAnigger lol

>>71693506
>>71693542
Rosemi. I'm 100% convinced she's leaving as soon as she can after 3D.
Her reputation is absolutely spotless and by doing the 3D she can both give her fanbase a good sendoff landmark stream (it won't be her final stream, but it will be the final big event one) and it was also probably a major demand by Anycolor to let her leave on good terms.

>>71693257
Fuck let me toss a grenade into this for fun. I specifically love she doesn’t want to play RPGs because I love the genre, but streaming all random battles is fucking boring, I would be skipping the vods constantly. For me her choice of focising on action is a gold idea because I may love messing with tactics but there is a point you want to get to the sauce.

>>71693660
" joking " rrriigghhttt.. You wanna fuck the whale

>>71693738
I don't wanna fuck enna

>There's 30 minutes to market opening and it's absurdly windy this morning in Tokyo. A foul omen for Nijisanji.
It's Nijiover...

>>71693699
Yeah, it's great and if anything it shows once more how much she cares about the brand and keeping the fans entertained. Even during the steam sale stream she was talking about how viewers tend to get bored after 3-4 streams, so she wants to make that the cap for any one single player or story driven game.

>>71693439
spill the beans you fuck

>>71693473
lmao, I don't think you understand the difference between hornyposting and legitimately thinking you're in a relationship with a chuuba. If they were parasocial towards Selen/Doki, why would they be fine with the majority of her big collabs being with men?

>>71693473
Never said she doesn’t have hers but even cartel lords like anime and still get bitches. What’s your excuse for being a Nijisis?

>>71693738
>You wanna fuck the whale
Enna? No eww

>>71693805
>>71693872
I thought Millie was the whale, Enna is a twig

>>71685831
Doki is basically a martyr. Not all nijis would end up like that. If only they let her leave peacefully she would not have had as much success. They tried to make her radioactive like with zaion and shot themselves in both feet.

>>71693939
Pretty sure Millie and Nova are more whalelike than Enna.

>>71693939
Ah, shit your right. I mix the two uglies up all the time. lol

>>71693699
>>71693808
>it shows once more how much she cares about the brand and keeping the fans entertained
...how are you guys this gullible?

she only "cares" about that because she wants to stay relevant
she couldn't give a rat's ass if people enjoyed her streams or not if it wasn't her job, she only "cares her fans" because they give her money

>>71693970
Yeah, they should have let her leave amicably publicly, while threatening to destroy her reputation if she badmouthed them.
Would have backfired if they actually did it, but chances are Doki would have just kept her mouth shut to avoid potential issues.

>>71692638
That telltale venomous condescending tone really does out them, no matter which falseflag they use. Enna's and Uki's bitterness runs deep in these muthafucka's veins.
Even the "le Holo is just as corrupt as le Niji" line has popped up kek

>>71693473
It is painfully obvious you're a woman. Talking about and appreciating lewd drawings does not mean you believe you have a legitimate relationship with your oshi.

>>71687505
>>71687814
>>71690630
>>71691588
>>71692260
>>71693257
>>71694042
Okay sister, falseflagging as an holobro isn't going to work. give up

Verification not required.

>>71694042
Dude, when Doki was suspended she was so addicted to streaming and entertaining she had her friends be her "chat" on discord while pretending to streM.

Doki is as parasocial as her fans.

>>71693970
I would say she would have been where she’s now, and probably Niji would have been fine until the Q3 report where to admit things are not good.
Which is why they specifically tried to hold her, they needed the big Obsydia 3D buff, it was already being planned before the termination. Now it has become just this week’s yab and if Rosemi is not a bitch her leaving will be the final blow to any investor hope.

>>71694193(me)
And that's a good thing.

>>71694158
lot of replies for a coping fagoon, probably mad that her being a fotm hololive reject is being pointed out so clearly and obviously

>>71685831
Nijisanji black company

Sisters no matter what you do. Vox is still dating Reimu. Elira is still a whore. Enna and Millie are still fat. NijiEN will still fall. Cope and Seethe.

>>71694193
That actually sounds pretty pathetic when you read it more then 3 times and let it sink in

>>71694042
>business is set up to make money
>keeping consumers happy is key to making money
>"the business likes to make people happy"
>"NOOOO! IT ONLY WANTS TO MAKE MONEY!'
What kind of communist shithole do you come from that you can't understand that making customers happy and making money goes hand in hand?

>>71694042
>maximum copium
Aside the obvious “then it’s the same for all”, she did a fking charity for the high wave, not a donothon or some shit. Your argument is invalid.

>C-charities are s-sca—
As above, so below. Report it, and seethe when nothing happens.

>>71694193
So she’s not in for the money. Honestly can’t say is a great thing, but only proves she loves the job.

>>71694312
Again, show me when she applied to hololive.
Also, 11k for a steam sale two days ago. It's been over a month since she was terminated. Cry more sister.

>>71694470
>11k for a steam sale two days ago
why are dragoons always such numberfags?
"oh, it got big numbers, that means her streams are good!" when it's literally just her watching game trailers on a web browser

Nah, they just were good streamers, made a fuzz loud enough to put themselves on the spotlight and managed to keep the light aflame.

Mysta, Nina and even the jp nijis who left with drama still stagnated and remain at the same viewership at best.

is nijisanji/someone else atleast paying you guys ? I can not imagine doing this all for free

>>71694594
Cry about sister.

>>71694333
It is but also what this anon said >>71694447
That's what makes her a great streamer, she's unhealtily addicted to content creation.

>>71694602
steam gift cards
>Verification not required

>>71694594
>nijisister numberfags to shit on doki
>gets proven wrong
>"why doki fans are such numberfags"
Retard.

>>71694594
>"she's FoTM, she'll be a 3 view soon"
>gets proven wrong
>"FAGOONS ARE NUMBERFAGS"
Pathetic.

>>71685831
Vshojo and Hololive members going indie is like Google employees working at Mcdonalds for the first time, Nijinigs going indie is like Chinese factory slaves getting basic western human rights for the first time.

>>71694652
>So she’s not in for the money. Honestly can’t say is a great thing, but only proves she loves the job

So she's not in it for the money but she's in it for the money? If she's not then demonetize and prove it, you fagoons are such retards lol

>>71694787
Where do you think she's going to settle? I doubt she'll remain a 5view, though it's definitely doable for big collabs or particularly successful streams.
Maybe 3 or 4K average? Assuming she keeps up on her end, of course.

>>71694602
They believe in that Steam Gift card scam
All banned in a few weeks for credit card fraud
Never trust a chink

>Verification not required.

>>71694594
>"oh, it got big numbers, that means her streams are good!"
Are you mad that NijiEN doesn't make the same numbers as Doki? Keep crying.

>>71694594
Nta but I just wanted to point out Steam isn't a web browser.

>>71694787
>>71694729
I barely have followed any of this, reading this thread because im bored. Why do you guys treat this like its some kind of culture war? Does anyone genuinely care?

>>71694828
Esl sister with shit reading comprehension, point out where that was said.

>>71694874
NTA, 5-8k maybe it's too early to tell.

>>71694965
0 brain cell retarded, should have known you fagoons can't read, you're just as retarded as your oshi

>>71694874
She'll be a steady high 4-view bumping up to 5-view with special events and other collabs.

>>71685831
When you're at rock bottom, the only place you can go is up

>>71685831
>>career gets revitalized
i mean she got in the biggest scandal of vtuber industry
however her numbers keep slowing down and her content imo already hit a wall.
She is fine but saying that a drama boosted career will last is just asking for grudgepost down the line.
Enjoy her while she is here who knows what she will act like in a few months.

>>71694874
20-25 finanas

>>71694907
Well, you clearly do. If you didn't why make a post?

>>71694907
>Does anyone genuinely care?
The sisters who constantly spam shit everywhere seem to care.

>>71695057
>no argument, still can't use reading comprehension
Go eat your pagpag sister, niji is dead, Doki won.

>>71695106
The dramafags already left two weeks ago. She's already settled and thriving, no matter how bad sisters want her to fail.

>>71693842
Someone also asked this question on /haha/ and majority of them said they really have no problems with it, since she never pandered to the GFE type anyways

>>71694828
>>71694042
You do know she was doing these projects even before Niji, right? She's a workaholic and actually gives a shit about making people happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq5KzE4gx6I
>>71694905
Technically, it is. Doesn't it use chromium or something?
>>71694907
An actual QRD is that Selen was one of the most popular, outgoing members of Nijisanji's first main waves. She was a super bright laughing dragon who constantly organized events and developed projects and assets for the rest of the company to use (out of her own pocket.) As soon as SHE was outed from the company, it was a gigantic red flag that maybe even the normies should be taking a look at what's going on there.
Imagine if Hololive fired Fubuki and claimed she tried to murder Rushia after firing someone else a year prior for the exact same thing in the exact same way.

>>71694905
Nta too, but Steam is partially a web browser actually, the main user interface part. Can even make it display urls at the top.

>>71695183
You do realize Doki's never gonna fuck you or date you right?? Your petty" insults " legit mean nothing, you defend a dying Vtuber, once this shit dies down do does her career, get over it fagoon, your time is almost done

>>71694874
>I doubt she'll remain a 5view,
she is not even a 5view rright now
she is lingering in the 7-8k and and 10k only on buff content with empty timeslots. just going to keep going lowering until she hits her base which will be 3-4k down the next months.
People really need to understand selen content is meh.

>>71695277
>Your petty" insults " legit mean nothing
The sister says as she seethes
>you defend a dying Vtuber
I'm not defending Vox or Elira.

>>71695277

>>71695277
You know she's flat out commissioned art of her (now ex) boyfriend on main before, right?
We know. We don't care. She's a comedian, not our girlfriend. Keep seething.

>Anycolor's Stock has OPENED!

>>71695361
fagoon thinks if they " insult " me enough I'll go away, I'm not a GenZ, and I was talking about Dokibird nowhere did I even mention those 2 like I said, you're a retarded fagoon who needs to get over the fact Doki's never gonna date or fuck you

It's Nijiover...

>>71695183
>The dramafags already left two weeks ago
she is losing regulars then
She went form 10k with batman to 7k in collabs. She doing multipart content also puts her low as expected and needs like an empty timeslots to break that 10k she was able to get easily before.
Look she cant survive nor has the skills to put buff content or creative projects every week. She is gonna keep falling off unless some retard at niji revives the drama or she herself do it. Her projects are just throwing and commissioning things that alone wont cut it.

>>71695277
So basically death to Niji and then we will see who is right. I can accept those terms, let’s sink the yacht.

>>71695463
NijiSeethe

>>71695183
NTA, but Doki streams for less than 4 hours in relatively erratic times, this considered a good way to slowly bleed your audience (or fail to build one). Currently Doki's viewership is based on her strength as a streamer, but continuing to do this will keep having detrimental effect on her.
She is - first and foremost - a streamer. If her projects get in the way in the streaming it'd not be daijobu, no matter how good they are.

>>71693439
Hell yeah. To all of that post.

Also Scarle.

>>71695541
Doki will thrive no matter how bad you wish her to fail sister.
>Look she cant survive nor has the skills to put buff content or creative projects every week
We know you don't watch streams

>>71695510
>didn't hit rock-bottom the second it opened
NIJIBROS WE ARE SO /BACK/

>>71695541
Sounds lime a lot of copium to me. She broke 11k during a steam sale. She got a 7k debuff from Holofes tiredness, but her standard seems to be 8k. Ehich is already above and beyond the good for an indie.
Projects will only keep it higher. Just admit you are coping.

>>71695510
>already dropping as soon as markets opened
lol, lmao even

>>71695463

Admiting that you're samefagging ?? roru, rumao even

>>71695578
>She is - first and foremost - a streamer.
she isnt that strong of a streamer.
She needs more than just playing games and telling chat "WHAT DO YOU MEAN" to not keep bleeding an audience. Is just the nature of things you need to be creative with your regular streams not just projects and i even doubt her projects are that great to begin with. She playing holocure this week might give her a boost just for the hololive asosication but she need more.

>>71695510
It's jumping up and down rn

>>71695766
Your esl is showing sister

>>71695463
Good. She will never Finana us then, I see it as a win.

>>71687505
Ok but did you really have to post a screamer?

>>71690784
>I decide the timeframe of a boost

>>71695766
Bro you act like this super fucking expert but you are a nijisis, you follow people who can barely make 10 finana, clearly you have no voice on the matter.

>>71695578
Honestly, yeah. She was keeping a lot more people when she stuck to a consistent schedule. She has like a core 6k which shows up regardless of time, but the rest of it needs a consistent schedule to plan around.

>>71695842
Finana never dated a fan, take your meds

>>71695232
>developed assets
One evidence for that is sonny's 3d chibi debut 3months ago, where he debuted in selen's vr world that she commissioned for her birthday, he's celebrating his debut with selen themed assets all around around him LOL

>>71695722
>but her standard seems to be 8k
it was 10k before. The steam sale gimmick is a buff for most streamers and she had an empty slot.
You people really need to understand this is not a short race is a long one and keeping up with the youtube algorithm and content machine is not easy and she wont be able to keep current numbers because now she is alone. She will go to 5k and lower. Is better than with niji but she doesnt have what it is needed to stay with the big leagues.
>>71695677
yeah yeah whatever you are just setting grudgepost for when she gets even lower numbers as weeks go by.

>>71695950
Tell that to the Valoguard, you really believe she just visited them?

>>71695917
whatever you say man call me when she regains that 10k average i guess with the content she has this week.

>>71696018
>when she gets even lower numbers as weeks go by.
Sister headcanon, also
>grudgepost
Only nijisisters are so obsessed to the point of trying to still shit on Doki while she has moved on a month ago lol

>>71693482
Sure, Filian's 2 collabs half a year ago with Emiru are what keeps her alive.

>>71695463
Your repeated use of "fagoon" like a 13 year old doesn't really suggest that you're particularly mature. I'd say you probably are mid to late zoomer generation.

>>71696018
You are being retarded at not considering one major problem here: she was given no time to prepare properly. She was terminated in the mid of negotiations. She doesn’t have her model and stream set up, so she has to work a lot behind the scenes.
Once she stabilizes, she will get a regular schedule. You are just falseflagging as an expert and doomposting, anyone whois following her is aware she is not resting on rest days.

>>71696105
>still shit on Doki
im not shitting on her im just saying what itis.
She is in a down trend.You are welcome to try show it isnt one right now and it cant get lower.
But we know she will go lower.
Just watch her and support her we know the numbers wont stay.

>>71686044
They would be the most powerful vtuber in the universe. Bonus points if they literally died and got wished back.

>>71696018
Shes gonna have to dip below finana before you can grudgepost kek

>>71696053
ummm.. yes? Are you fucking retarded? Why would your mind even jump right to " ohhh she totally fucked them " like what even brought you to that conclusion? Do you have any proof? Lotta allegations with no evidence

>>71695578
I actually missed a few streams because of how early they ended.
Do wish she did longer 6 hour-ish streams.
All her longer streams are of story driven sp games which I definitely don't like watching.

>>71695982
Absolutely hilarious.
"some wish for me to leave the company as I bring nothing good to the branch"
Disgusting. I'll have to go grab the vod later to confirm and grudgepost.

>>71696220
>She doesn’t have her model and stream set up, so she has to work a lot behind the scenes.
Once she stabilizes, she will get a regular schedule.
yeah yeah. her content will magically get better you will get what another gaming stream?
Maybe a vrchat one?
im just being realist dont take it to hearth. She will go lower i dont know why that pains you so much. Is the nature of numbers.

>>71696224
>we
Who is we you retard? Stop with your dumb headcanon

>>71696273
You got defensive real quick there, didn't you? You think we're all trying to fuck Doki but Finana's perfectly clean despite initially branding herself as a lewdtuber virgin desperately trying to have sex?

>>71696266
im pretty sure you can grudgepost with all those people saying she has a 10k and 8k floor.

>>71685831
>since she left kurosanji she made more money then all nijiEN combined
DAMN

>>71696224
>im not shitting on her im just saying what itis.
These are all you:
>>71696342
>>71696018
>>71695766
>>71695578
>>71695541
Pipe down sister.

>>71687577
And I'm sure you'd have sex with a dead rat scraped off the road and dumped in a ditch nearby.
Doesn't really make much of a statement anon.

>>71696224
>im not shitting on her im just saying what itis.
How it is not what it is.

>>71696340
And he posted the confirmed fabricated screenshot!
Typical Nijisis, once out of arguments, back to lies! 100% forgettable twitter trash!

>>71696426
So you made something up just to see a reaction?? We found the 12 year old boys - that's legit some grade school shit lol you're pathetic

>>71687078
holy fuck I can only get so erect

>>71696454
yeah. And she will make less money as time goes by just like she will get less views.
That is a fact we can agree with i guess.

>>71696342
By your logic, then no one should go up, as oyu are saying even what you proposed as “good” will not work. You are just presenting nothingburgers based on “she sucks”, not actual evidence on how that will not work.
Nijisis, you may have finally got to high school but you still shouldnmt act like you are smart.

>>71694907
>Why do you guys treat this like its some kind of culture war? Does anyone genuinely care?
Yes.
Nobody wants shitters like Doki or any other ex-Nijis in Hololive because they threaten CGDCT and don't focus on idol content. If you want chuubas to stay enjoyable in the future, and not infested by ironic weebs, you have a vested interest in seeing ex-Nijis like her fail.
Pomu could be an exception, but it depends on if she applies for the next EN gen or not

>>71687505
>>71687814
Nijisister, your attempt to use holos to get holodrones to hate doki doesn't work, will never work, and you're really obvious when you do it. Please go back to the discord and regroup.

>>71696614
No, it’s your fantasy and you can shove it in your screams and cries at the pc. The world doesn’t change because you learned how to type, sorry.

>>71696614
Dude you're still using >we
Who the fuck is >we?
The voices in your head?

>>71696440
Post your oshi lmao

>>71696622
>Falseflagging
No one said in this topic she should be in Holo, even dragoons agree. Nice to you to be losing all arguments and latch to the fake new post who doesn’t even quote OP.
Can’t even deviate the argument right. Nijisis aren’t even good at the one game they think they can play.

>>71696488
Clearly you have a post proving that the screenshot is fake readied up, right? Like how we found out that Doki liked using that exact flair on her discord avatar only long AFTER she left the company?

>>71696488
>confirmed fabricated screenshots
Confirmed by whom lol, your headcanon? Warosu still has the originals from december, and the cow tweet gave them enough validity.

>>71696440
Why does it suddenly smell like pagpag in here?

>>71686084
>they just want to see nijisanji fail
While enjoy watching Nijisanji get what they deserve, am not part of the group that bought $200k of merch on her first day. Then donated quarter million dollars to her charity. Sorry, but those are fans. Many ex-Niji fans. Her sustained views a month later is remarkable for an indie.

>>71696505
NTA but no? It's pretty fucking well known how close she was with them. They leaked her goddamn audition video, you tourist.

>>71694594
Do nijiniggers really

>>71696980
As I said to the other anon, proof??

>>71696674
>your attempt to use holos to get holodrones to hate doki doesn't work
As an actual holochad it's hilarious because we've hated Selen for years now. It's like watching a retard trying to turn the sky blue - how do you not already know?

>>71696619
>then no one should go up,
going up is a hard deal as content creator.
Drama can give you a boost and she did have it but retaining it is another thing.
Only the best of the best can keep that and that is rare even in corpos.
She went form 9-10k in the first week of march to 6-8k in the altest one.
I dont know what other proof you want of she going down but is there.
Why you people are so defensive and calling sister becasue pointing out the obvious thing is funny. im not saying she sucks she just doesn't have what it takes to be a top streamer.

>>71691578
Like how fans of female NijiEN had to make their own split? Or lazusydia? or petra attaching to anya of all things?
The fans of the males ruin everything they come into contact with and the splits away from /nijien/ have always been to get the fuck away from them.

I like how Nijisisters have learned how to blur the images they are using so anons can't "Image MD5" them.

>>71686447
Why do all these weird copes involve debt of some kind, projecting much? Doki is smart enough to handle her finances and you're severly underestimating how much money there is to be made. She's not in 2% land anymore.

>>71697051
>we
Okay falseflagging faggot

Verification not required.

Man dragoons are really defensive becasue her numbers going down uh?
did this happen with selene when she was getting 5-6k when she debuted with apex?

>>71697052
Answer the question
>>71696715

>>71697146
>can't argue against any points made
>goes back to tge beginning again
11k sister, 11k.

>>71696869
>Nor Aster or Scarle were suspended
>That came from leaker who literally said he never created it
>Leaker is also clearly larping because otherwise Elira would be back or the company would have tried an apology
And where you have confirmed it’s true, let’s hear it falseflagger. We both know you pull that out only when you are losing, methinks the reason is you know it’s false.

>>71697146
dragoons have always been the most sensitive group of babbies on /vt/, it's nothing new

>>71685831
The other corpos don't terminate people in bombtastic way or have unethical work conditions.

>>71697026
There's 18 million finana anti threads over the last month, and every single one of her former fans knows about it. That's why they left. Go find it yourself. I'm not spoonfeeding you every single post. You can see the results just by looking at her vod history and how absolutely nobody comes by anymore, and the few that do don't donate or buy merch. There's a reason that 1 Finana is only equal to 300 ccv.

>>71697268
>>71697146
stop samefagging esl sister

>>71697052
Then who does? Your GFE?
You sre providing no argumrnt and only shitting on her without any valid point except an uneven schedule and we got past it.
You are trying hard but presenting no argument. That works only in fagcircles. In the real world you need a point.

>>71697146
>>71697268
Why do you type like a faggot?

>>71685831
She wouldn't have a career if not for Nijisanji

>>71685831
>>leave nijisanji
>>career gets revitalized
Gibara, Meiji and Gundou?

>>71697379
Worse, she's a woman. A smelly, femcel, SEA woman.

>>71697146
>00:31:01
>>71697268
>00:32:49
Kek

>>71697439
Makes sense.

>>71697434
I guess then everyone with a job should go trough being bullied to self harm. Bruh what a fucking victim blaming, you are weak just for not hitting bottom.

>>71685831
there's not much drama against Cover when terminations/graduations happened and Hololive is the peak popularity for them
now on Nijisanji there's a clearly sentiment against Anycolor and the controversy cause fans to leave the brand and the drama attract viewers to the new indie persona

>drumroll…

>>71697235
Everybody was watching them at the time. Immediately after, both scarle and aster changed their schedule to do a guerilla collab where they kept calling each other "bestie" over and over again in an extremely awkward and forced manner.
The instant it ended, she went into a membership stream and cried for half an hour.
Also around this time was #WhereIsScarle, so yes, it's absolutely likely she was suspended.

>>71697119
Dragoon here. She absolutely isn't.
She's horrid with money and absolutely needs a money manager. It's a miracle she's not destitute since Nijisanji likely wouldn't let her hire one.
Mr. Man and his team has already had to wrangle her from developing too many projects at once.

>>71697051
You can come out now Pakichan

>>71697594
Fuck yeah

>>71697291
>Go find it yourself. I'm not spoonfeeding you every single post.
I love this part, when you guys are backed against the wall and can't find any proof this is what you result to saying cause there is no proof

Doki won. NijiEN lost. Cope Nijisisters.

>>71697619
>Dragoon here
>Ignore thr post above is about smearing her
Falseflagging 0.001 at it’s core, Nijisis. Can’t even try for a gifcard with this one.

>>71697594
watching anycolor stock is more interesting than nijisanji livers

>>71697668
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4
NTA but no, you're just an idiot tourist.

>>71697051
I've been watching Holo well before NijiEN existed. Was only fans of Pomu and Selen.
Those two held pretty much all the hybrid fans, so now that they're both gone, there's actually no Holofans left who will defend the current Nijis. There absolutely are fans who follow Pomu in her idol adventures or are supporting doki though.
I'll tell you again, you're really obvious and no one is buying it. The steam giftcard is fraudulent and will get your account banned. Just stop already.

>>71697774
I know it might be insane to you, but people aren't perfect. Doki might be an organizing machine, but she still has flaws. In normal human society, you counteract these flaws by working with people who are good at those things.
Nijisanji refused to allow her to do that, instead turning a blind eye to Luca circumventing that exact rule.

>>71697668
Not the other anon, but if you want to be spoonfeed so badly, so be it
She got groomed (impliying that it ever stopped) by her paypigs, just search Valoguard

>>71697825
This. Niji was over when thry lost the only Idol they had. Next came the Streamer. All that is actually left is someone who being a bitch would actually improve her career and the Homos, which I’ll give you this, Nijisis, you can have them if it means leaving everyone else alone.

Do you faggots ever stop fighting on this board? Do you not have anything better to do with your lives, either physically or emotionally?

>>71697963
>Human being aren't perfect
shocking

>>71697825
>There absolutely are fans who follow Pomu in her idol adventures or are supporting doki though
and they're a minority. I think most holofans see doki's "attempt" failing as a missed opportunity for hololive, and might have reluctantly supported pomu for being friends with kiara but nothing beyond that. Remember that the walled garden is "walled" for a reason - they want to keep the "bad" out just as much as they want to keep the "good" in.

>>71697990
That's the craziest part. They weren't even paypigs. She lost so much money after she started pandering to them. Then allegedly she started trying to snatch them back after they left, with shit like pandering specifically to Chris (one of her biggest whales and known foot fetishist) with the feet stream.

>>71697963
I never said you are wrong that she needs a manager, and now she has more than one, one of which had to deal with fucking xqc, so why you are using it as an argument to be negative?
Your paragraph above it is literally teying to validate a smear false post. Being right doesn’t make you a good actor, Nijisis.

>>71698112
>Doki’s attempt failing as a missed opportunity for hololive.
Ok is just me of this makes absolutely no sense? This is pure ESL.
I can’t even understand what the fuck you are even writing, are you using chatGPT hoping it can make a better argument than you?

>>71698058
NO! I WILL FIGHT! I MUST FIGHT!
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME EXERCISE OR LEARN NEW SKILLS, MOM!
I'M HERE FOREVER!

>>71686930
>>71687317
Oh man, low blood sugar from fasting means they'll be extra cranky.

>>71698112
>I think most holofans
MOST holofans are either unaware of Doki, or don't really care.

>>71698440
>Admitting he’s not one and has falseflagged this entire topic
Congrats, your humiliation is complete.

>>71698440
yeah, that's true.
but do you think the ones who actually know who she is have just conveniently forgotten about her time as selen? how she built up the worst, most obnoxious fanbase ever to grace the vtuber community, and then started leeching off of mumei, zeta and ollie? how she does constant male collabs and invites the worst ironic weebs to become vtuber fans with her persona? mori calliope catches a lot of shit, and she's not nearly as bad as selen was. people don't just magically forget the past, anon

>>71692967
Dragoons don't have real gachis, at least not in a large proportion. Gachis as you point out tend to be aggressive. They also tend to hate male collabs and the like. Selen isn't a GFE, she's more of a bestie or sister. It helps that she has a tomboy-type personality with a degree of sweat for videogames and geekdom in general making her an obvious idol for all the zillenial nerds.
Still this does inspire a degree of "must protect" but bereft of the romantic feelings of the gachis. Even the dragoons that lewd her a ton know to separate the model from the artist. Hence they might look gachi at first but have few or none of the typical negative traits. Dragoons don't make delusions about actually dating doki irl, if they did they'd have gone ballistic by her constant collabs with holostars.

This is what beautiful and pure looks like

>>71698696
enna is one of ugliest vtubers i have ever seen in all honesty

>>71698639
>Saying shit about Selen that holofans think
>Admitting he’s not one
We are at levels of falseflagging that you even admit you are just shitposting for the sake of it. Giftcard denied.

>>71698696
That thing got passed around in France so sorry, I don’t want sloppy seconds.
Even Kyo dropped that used ass.

>>71685831
>leave hololive, vshojo
>vshojo
but both silvervale and especially vei are doing just fine?

>>71698825
well, I used to be a hololive fan, and trust me, there were a lot of reasons to hate selen. maybe do some archive reps if you don't believe me, but the reputation of her and dragoons is very bad on this board for a reason

>>71698993
>I used to be a hololive fan

>>71698894
Imagine being so delusional and living in 1950 still where you believe guys and girls can't be friends, step up to the times boomer, anyone can be friends and hang out doesn't mean they dating or fucking

>>71699091
Then why were you trying to rile people up about fucking Doki and unicorns?
Shoe's on the other foot now, sister.

>>71699046
here's evidence if you don't believe me

>>71699091
Aloucuck

>>71699091
Sure alocuck, twitters about fucking around and sharing a room were just jokes, whatever makes you think your GFE is still real. Wake me up ehen she makes an album in 3 years, “song focused liver”.

>>71699216
Still
>I used to be a hololive fan
>used to
Shut up faggot.

>>71699205
No, no its really not retard, Doki fucking her fans is not even close to the same as what you guys are saying, Doki and her fans are not friends and never will be, legit fucking retards on this thread

>>71699216
>2 years ago, I’m still valid representing the fandom
Giftcard denied, try again

>>71699295
omg a guy and girl can't share room now either?? So you're like the other retard anon lol legit myself and all my guy friends have shared a hotel room with our friends who were girls and we never fucked or we weren't dating, legit boomer its 2024 catch up

>>71699091
He posted this as a direct reply to a picture of him holding hands with Enna in their off collab.
Even if they weren't fucking, this is extremely, extremely bad optics to her fanbase.

>>71699091
Aloucuck lol

>>71699310
what do you even mean by that? I only occasionally watch ina streams now and don't even watch holofes. but that being said, neither nijis nor ex-nijis ever got sympathy during the time that I was a true hololive fan, and that was for good reason. selen getting sympathy now would be retarded, it'd be like we were wrong about her all along. we weren't

>>71699314
Again, you thinking a vtuber can only do GFE is your own retardation. People can jist enjoy a creator and support it. We are not parasocial fucks like you, sorry you had to discover the world is not equal to your doxxsite. Get back there, gifcard denied.

>>71699446
And if they had posted more recent cancelled memberships, you'd just say they bought & cancelled to try and push their point.
You're just in denial kek

>>71699527
You type like a SEAnigger lmao

>>71699537
Dragoon mad Doki doesn't wanna be friends with you?? awww so sad

>>71699527
>The ESL seeps in.
You are suppose to make more sense with your next pathetic attempt, not less.
Giftcard denied, vack to the doxxsite.

>>71699618
Nta but he literally said the opposite of what you're saying. Also why do you sisters always use a double question mark?

>>71699620
>>>>The ESL seeps in.
>suppose
>vack
wew

>>71699620
Did you really just use the same phrase in under 2 minutes lol ChatGPT has entered the thread

>>71699314
Now you're getting it.
We don't give a shit if she'll fuck us or not. We don't want to fuck her. She could be a man and we absolutely would not care. She could stream with a voice changer and we would not care. Her entertainment carries itself without any kind of GFE.

Nobody tell the sisters about Rin or they'll throw a fucking fit at a vtuber banning sexual jokes or content on sight.

>>71699600
>Assuming I’m the one who has to prove I’m talking for a fandom.
You have some serious problems making any kind of point, even as two. Giftcard denied.

>>71699720
I got it a long time ago, you guys wanna date her and be friends with her and you'll never have neither, go cry about it on /haha/

>>71699784
Then why are they happy with her collabing with males then? More than happy in the case of streamers like RPR.

>>71699620
what part of this isn't clear?
here, I'll spell it out for you:
>nijis never received sympathy in myth or council's first couple of years. you would be shittalked for even admitting to liking any of them, including selen and pomu. this is still true to this day
>changing your opinion on either of them just because they left nijisanji is retarded, and would defeat the purpose of hating them in the first place
does that make it more simple for you?

>>71699784
Man, Imagine being so parasocial you can only see fans as people who want to fuck someone. No wonder you can’t go out of home, you probsbly exchange an hello for sexual harrass…
Oh, Uki is that you?

>>71699784
Man, the sister projection is something else today. No gift card for today, sorry.

>>71699902
3rd time you said that in under 5 minutes, you a ChatGPT bot?? You seem like it

>>71699784
>you'll never have neither
Wonderful English. Truly the best.

>>71699872
Times change faggot cope

>>71699872
>Falseflagging harder
Posting Watame doesn’t make you an holofan, and you literally posted something completely different.
Enough thinking you can fake being holofans, your friend already switched to ex with some old ass subs he probably stole somewhere as a screenshot.
Giftcard denied, seethe harder.

>>71699954
nope. Just another anon having fun in a thread watching a sister break down at the idea of fans not wanting to date or fuck their streamer.

>>71700007
>Times change faggot cope
explain why liking selen or pomu would be OK now, without it just being that selen was the catalyst for anycolor to fuck up publicly (who likely would have done some other dumb shit to destroy their own business if she just quietly graduated anyway)

>>71700017
>>>>The ESL seeps in.
>an holofan
>you can fake being holofans
>your friend already switched to ex (tf does this even mean?)
wew

>>71687505
>>71697051
>trying to pit hoomans and dragoons against each other
try harder

>>71699872
This is revisionism. Most people here didn't outright hate NijiEN until Luxiem.

I’m bored. NDF sending mediocrity parasocials as usual, not even good at their job, and market is too speculative for a crash, too many stockbros pumping and dumping still, probablt will stop one % point up or down.
Tick tock Q4 will be the end of it. I’m bored, please try harder tomorrow, you may convince someone you are at least funny NDF. Your clownship is denied as your giftcard.

>>71700302
Pubic opinion changed
Cope faggot

>>71700390
>Most people here didn't outright hate NijiEN until Luxiem
I remember that passively mentioning enjoying pomu or selen when asked what your favorites are in general would get you accused of shitposting in hololive threads, even if you spoilered it. I even quit watching them because of it, otherwise I probably would have gotten more into their content because it wasn't bad

>>71700584
So you stopped watching two chuubas you enjoyed because you got shit on for it /here/? How fucking pathetic and weak-willed are you?

>>71700584
I had a similar problem (not niji) so I just stopped hanging out with holofags instead, worked out great

>>71700869
>So you stopped watching two chuubas you enjoyed because you got shit on for it /here/?
yeah, pretty much. but it's too late to go back on it now, pomu is graduated and selen's new persona seems to have become a dramatuber so it's a moot point

>>71701045
>a dramatuber

>>71701135
doesn't most of her content revolve around "sticking it to nijisanji/anycolor" now? i'm not really interested in someone who choose to live in the past like that

>>71701224
She hasn't mentioned them a single time since neopets. You haven't watched her. Not even a clipwatcher. Or a threadreader.

>>71701045
>seems to have become a dramatuber
Ah, I made the mistake of thinking you were being honest and not just baiting. Never mind.

>>71701045
>dramatuber
you can't be serious...

>>71701224
Do you actually watch vtubers at all? Or do you just read threads on /vt/? Jesus.

>>71701312
>You haven't watched her
well yeah, because I assumed it was like sayu where all she does now is talk shit about nijisanji
>>71701433
like I said earlier, I occasionally still watch ina streams/clips

>>71701514
>I assumed
>clips
faggot

>>71701514
So effectively you're just a tourist. Got it.

>>71701514
You haven't watched Sayu either.
She's streamed for maybe 60 hours in the past week or so. She mentioned a certain company for about 5 minutes after being raided by a lawyer discussing the case. She's still bitter since she was doxxed and blacklisted and still recovering from the trauma of being harassed in person by the sisters, but it's not like she brings it up regularly or for an extended period.

>>71701647
I might actually try watching both of them now, thanks for letting me know anon

>>71701778
Yeah, they're both really sweet, actually. Doki's a dudebro gamer who mostly focuses on action games and has a lot of chat interaction via polls and stuff regularly.
Sayu meanwhile is VERY good at keeping up with chat. She almost always simulcasts and prides herself on being able to keep up with both, no matter how many people are there. She'll read and react to anything, even greys, and she's scary good at remembering people and names, so expect heavy parasocialism on both sides.

>>71685831
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>>71701514
There's no way this guy is a falseflagging nijisister. Even they're not dumb enough to peddle this shit. I'm onto you, you're a holobrony falseflagging as a falseflagging pagpag. There's no way you're not.

>>71702127
I think they might genuinely just be a tourist.

>>71697594
Niji winning as always.
Negligible indeed.

Keep seething holobabies.

>>71699091
>doesn't mean they dating or fucking
if it's a male and female it usual does in todays world though

>>71702127
>>71702215
Anything about retarded console war faggotry is a tourist's strategic falseflag and samefagging for the amusement. Even more so with IP count removed.

>>71695982
>>71696340
Here's your link, https://www.youtube.com/live/wL7QHJVlOGI?si=mtq4lAiYinU5gWBa
The lazy ass couldn't be bothered to produce his own assets so he debuted in a selen themed bday room in nijiexpress

>>71702706
>She lacks critical information
Sister...