/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71203994
She's boring, she's a whore and she's a cliche rich girl bully.
No wonder poverty bitches like Enna and Millie are up her ass, they want to stay by her side because she's loaded.

No.

They're all boring if you don't want to fuck them.

>>71204150
Speak for yourself anon,my oshi is both entertaining AND fuckable

>>71203994
Never watched a stream, death to Nijisanji.

>>71204081
Shit taste

>>71204201
Here I am, saying they're not entertaining unless you want to fuck them, and here you are, bragging about how your oshi's entertaining and fuckable as if it somehow qualifies as a rebuttal.

>>71203994
If she dropped the nice girl act and started acting like her natural evil bitch self, she'd be a way better streamer

>>71204299
He explicitly said his oshi is not boring, which is a rebuttal to what you said. You're acting like fuckable and entertaining are mutually exclusive which is insanely retarded.

>>71203994
She was fine in collabs, but her solo stuff had far too much dead air and random autism noises.

>>71204865
He admits to wanting to fuck her so how can he judge if she is entertaining outside of being fuckable? That's why it isn't a rebuttal.

>>71205170
what chuuba is NOT fuckable anyway? i'd say they're a very small minority. most of them are easy to lust for, and i'd say it's pretty easy to tell when you find someone entertaining aside from fuckable, versus just fuckable. i know for damn sure i wanted to fuck the brains out of mel but she was as interesting as starting at a cactus, meanwhile i could watch korone for hours a day because she's hilarious while i fantasize about eating her ass.

>comfy boring streamer turns out to be a huge cunt
>is canadian
I mean
She IS quintessentially canadian, when you think about it.

Elira was never good at solo streams. She's boring by herself. She was always better in a group setting.

I'm just glad I'll never be randomly watching her streams at 2 AM again and be subjected to that retarded simp Elirasrandomforevercakenoises sending her superchats for EVERYTHING (in ARs) again.

>>71203994
Her voice was hot as fuck, tho. If she did ASMR earlier on, and more often, she would've been Vox-tier in terms of subs

>>71203994
Well I will admit it will be interesting if she returns and goes on to play Persona 3 Reload.
The Fuuka ark would be a massive yabai moment if she decides to act like nothing happened.

>>71204803
The nice girl act is her evil self. You can see from how she acts she thinks of herself as a chill boss girl and therefore anything she does isn't evil because she's never done anything wrong in her life, in her head, and people are just being MEAN.

Of course this is from the perspective of a batshit ex-tumblrina. Elira's life is basically quirky teen girl, angry and bitchy college feminist and then grown up HR lady ruining things for the sake of ruining them while thinking men deserve this because they're MEAN (and women she doesn't like they are also mean and deserve it).

It's like all those posts when people are like "can trannies please stop trying to fuck kids" and trannies freaking out and claiming their opponents are committing a tranny holocaust. They are fundamentally bad people through their actions, in their heads they are entirely 'normal'. There is no 'evil real personality'- that is the personality they always have.

>>71205450
Well maybe this month has been a big wake up call. Or a definitive moment to gaslight herself she's right and losing more subs is ok.

>>71203994
She peaked with her Xenoblade arc. Very few corpo vtubers are willing to play out a whole multi-game JRPG saga on-stream. That's about it.

She was cute, I'll admit it. I was a member. The voice and the dorkiness was endearing to me. But at some point I couldn't do another 8 hour JRPG stream anymore and every JRPG has to be 100 hours long. I stopped watching but kept the membership until the black screen vid, then I cut all ties.

>>71203994
yes. i never watched her for more than 20minutes before clicking off due to how boring it was.

>>71205362
Desperate times call for desperate measures and you might get your wish.

>>71205526
>wake up call
That should have been when she graduated college with a degree in woman's studies and failed to even become an hr lady.

>>71203994
One or two years ago I legit gave Elira a go for like two streams and I just didn't get how she kept getting all these promos and deals for herself. Here is a streamer so bland, so pebble-on-the-side-of-road, so utterly devoid of any unique quality; that it's puzzling why she got as far as she did. I said streamer because there was nothing vtuber-ish about her. Not much leaning on lore, not developing a personality, not known for any tic and no notable tendencies. Pomu and Selen were more entertaining. I remember liking half of Reimu's Spanish singing stream. Even Enna at least pulled off a sick Higurashi cover. But I keep drawing a blank on Elira.
I watched her 3D. There was a moment where her character model summoned and "played" the electric guitar and it all looks so fake and so... low-effort? It's like I knew she wants to appear a certain way but she's not bothering to look that certain way.

>>71203994
She's the type of girl you pretend to listen to until you get past 3rd base.

>>71204065
>She's boring, she's a whore and she's a cliche rich girl bully.
What caused this level of schizoing about the blue woman?

>>71204150
Untrue, I'm asexual and don't think Filian is boring.

I though Selen graduated? Why are you showing a picture of her?

>>71205859
>another 8 hour JRPG stream anymore and every JRPG has to be 100 hours long
This kind of ruins the Gurrat for me. The woman plays JRPG for 8-12 hours, then browses TikTok for 4 hours. Where the hell would she get the time to manage anything or run a clique?

>>71203994
Why do you think her new outfits kept getting more cleavage

>>71206151
The effects of nijisisters being mind broken over every failed slide thread attempt. From the failure of the current anti-hololive or vtuber threads, the colossal Scarle smear thread and now the new expansion announcement from Cover placing operations in the US.

>>71205274
Enna.

>>71206248
Stop thinking. The GURRAT is unbreakable. Trust the plan.

>>71203994
I cannot agree since I never watched her.

>>71205386
>This reminds me of that off collab we had... Oh

i dont even watch her but i knew she is boring from beginning since she is a bad person

>>71204201
Is she fuckable because she's entertaining or entertaining because she's fuckable?

>>71206421
I almost want her to come back just to see how big the shitshow can be. How convinced she will be that things will work after all that happened.
Reminder the Nijisis couldn't get Vox over 6k, Elira could get Finana levels.

>>71206434
Enna is neither fuckable nor entertaining.

>>71205362
Brings a whole new meaning to her if evil why hot though moments

>>71203994
If you want a good basis of how screwed she is unless she somehow manages to turn the black video around, just look for the Lazulight thread. It's all Pomu. She can't even get her own daisempai gen status when one is gone and the other is Finana.

>>71206651
I was answering the first line.

>>71206689
Will I get delulu going in there

>>71203994
>was
You make it sound like she's gone for good but in all likelihood she is merely taking a break and will return full of energy and motivation once the drama dies down

The first time I heard about her was when some anon claimed she was a better singer than Suisei. Wonder how that guy feels about her now.

elira pedorra prrrrrr

>>71206248
>Management is non existent
>Elira doesn't have time to manage EN
Makes sense.

What the fuck do you mean by "was"?

>>71203994
no? I love watching her streams. It depends on the game though, of course, but her long story-based games are great. Her fotm stuff kinda sucks though. All in all she's one of my favorites still, her break has let me catch up on some vods!

>>71203994
Not even remotely. Her streams were some of my favorites since she's able to really get into and understand the stories of the JRPG's she plays while also being not nearly as much as a zoomer when compared to someone like Filian, who literally can not stop being ADHD. If I had to pick any streamer from Nijisanji I watched the most it'd pretty much just be her Pomu and in the week after debut before he went hard into chinese fujo/yumejo BFE money instead Vox. The biggest downside to Elira would've been that I wasn't really into some of her game choices like AI Somnium Files, but when she'd talk about the games she played in zatsus or while playing another game, she had an infectious amount of affection for them that made me decide to give her at least Slime Rancher streams a go.

Shame Elira's a total fucking cunt now and likely always has been behind the scenes, so me writing two paragraphs starting with saying I actually liked her will be seen as a blasphemous sin for ever appreciating her in the past. I'm still going to empty my balls to her porn but I'm thankful to my past self for steadfastly deciding spending even a single dime on any content creator was and will always be a bad idea.

So wait, is everyone just imagining her as a supervillain because she's too boring for all of you to watch? Like, you can't be bothered to evaluate her character, so you just start slapping funny things on her?

>>71207547
No? Everyone is imagining her as a supervillain because she was name dropped in the Dokiments and she has an absurdly high count of marketing campaigns where she appears in comparison of everyone else.

>>71207547
Evaluating someone based on the content of their character is a tired old trope from the 20th century. We're all for cancel culture now.

>>71207547
No, it's because anyone can graduate at any time and she chose to side with the team that drove two people to suicide.

>>71207533
Break is implying that she is coming back

>>71205526
>Gazuliato

>>71207547
Everyone is imagining her as a cunt because she is one

>>71207547
No, she was boring, not bad. What crowned her was the shit digging that came out after the black video. Had her shut the fuck up, she could have deflected a lot more.
That's why she needs to adress it and apologize if she wants a ghost of a chance.

>>71207687
You're a fucking idiot. The only case of harassment in that document was them asking her to kindly not lambast her manager publicly. Elira's location being mentioned had nothing to do with the harassment. Vox was not only name dropped but had a recording too, where's the supervillain narrative for him?

>>71203994
I'm not a nijinigger so I don't watch her, but her design with the hair wings is pretty bad, imo
I don't know why a lot of niji has them, might be some higher ups fetish or something

>>71207918
>where's the supervillain narrative for him?
>he doesn't know
Go back to your doxxsite.

>>71207918
>Vox was not only name dropped but had a recording too, where's the supervillain narrative for him?
For any anons reading this and not knowing this is a sister
DO NOT POST THAT DOCUMENT. She's baiting you into a ban.

>>71206248
Who said she has the time to manage anything? She manages while sleeping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-xDAvCx32Y
>mid JRPG for 10 hours straight
describes her content perfectly

>>71207918
The fact that she participated in the black stream is enough to tell me that she is a vindictive asshole.No good person publicly participate in a smear campaign against their former coworker who is recovering from a suicide attempt

All EN streamers are boring whores

>>71205290
Wait, since when Amiya is considered a cunt ?

>>71207982
Can you give me a hint to what it is and I will spread it on xitter, reddit and youtube comments

>>71207918
>Vox is not being villanized
Trust me, I only wish for Vox to forever lose himself in SEAland and be devoured alive. He made his grave long ago, no one likes him here but the nijisis.

>>71208047
>unironically shitposting with a kino shitpost
"You know i'm a stummy enjoyer Joe" is quite possibly the funniest fucking line to ever come from a clipper

>>71205450
Yeeeep. Evil just straight up isn’t cool, it’s banal as shit. If Elira did what she’s accused of there’s 0 chance there’s a ‘fake’ nice Elira on-stream and an evil edgy Elira off-stream. All it takes is for ‘nice’ Elira to just think she can do no wrong and that is guaranteed to deal just as much damage as if she were actually a scheming bitch.

>>71205526
>Well maybe this month has been a big wake up call
If she was truly a bully I hope this is the results and she gets to grow as a person as she recovers. It'd be nice to see her take advantage of the second chance Doki gave her.
If she was a bully.

>>71205450
You lost me at the "all trannies are pedo thing" but top shelf quality analysis nonetheless.

>>71208495
To be honest there are some traces for this rrat, Enna has basically become the "Are we the baddies" streamer, her last talk was full of self-doubt (too bad in a gaschamber, someone should have told her to take an hint and stop being a bitch), Millie has basically took over event organization with JP which is so weird considering Elira would be perfect for that, and Millie has also gone full psycho trying to gather support for nothing at all happening.
Would be fun if she actually goes full apology. Probably the best move, not gonna lie, because it will still tank her but would give her a place to restart even inside the company.

>>71208495
I genuinely hope we are not damned on the, "No one learned anything, everyone stays horrible" timeline.

>>71205290
I want to disagree but I can't. Literally every canadian streamer makes being boring their whole brand.

Elira is a top 10 most entertaining vtuber THOUGH

>>71205274
beatani

>>71208930
Why is she sucking on a binky?

Every Elira Pendora stream is the peak of Elira Pendora

>>71208810
I mean, she did tweet she spent a lot of time watching death note during this time. While everyone was offcollab.
Which means she couldn't or wouldn't get into those offcollab, and her other tweets also suggest she is literally on paid vacation which sounds odd considering everyone else is either streaming or doing weird shit.
Or she could snipe Petra and Rosemi's 3D to return and fuck them over trying to act "family", which will prove nothing was learned.

>>71208048
>who is recovering from a suicide attempt

Apparently it took over a month to recover from a suicide attempt despite her being healthy enough to plan out return merch on her PL, talk to lawyers, get into constant heated negotiations with her company and had the frame of mind necessary to accuse her ex coworkers of harassment while simultaneously threatening them with legal action.

>"Your reputation is being tarnished with lies but don't you dare make a video to try and clear your name because that's bullying"
Most of the entire board is full of thin-skinned pussies. That's to be expected from a containment board created because everyone here was too cringe for the regular people in other boards

>>71203994
I liked her actually

>>71205450
Hit the nail on the head

>>71208788
>Probably the best move, not gonna lie, because it will still tank her but would give her a place to restart even inside the company
How doesn't that perpetually turn her into "that girl that harassed someone into trying to kill herself"? I'm not seeing how Pont A (admit fault) leads to Point B (people are willing to forgive you / chug it up to something in the past / she's not like that anymore).

>>71207918
>Elira's location being mentioned had nothing to do with the harassment

This is what always bothered me. What event took place that involves the physical location of Enna, Elira, and Millie? Why would something as trivial as workplace bullying over Discord or whatever necessitate mentioning location? Something took place off collab, and it shook up not only Selen enough to remark upon it in her documentation, but for Elira to stand up before the world in a desperate attempt to refute it. There is something far more tangible and unconscionably earthly than mere psychological manipulation and mean words going on here, I'd wager.

>>71209060
>Hurr durr I'm the last sis alive
Her emergency contact helped her with the lawyers, they didn't get into constant negotiation, they ghosted them, and there was no legal action except against you qualify as an human being because it's offensive to us.

>Containment site
Well you are in, but you may be referring to the doxxsite.

>>71208981
Cause she's actually just a Big Baby!
Just with some Big Mommy Milkers!

>>71208810
It's hard to learn when you get free validation as a streamer for every stupid shit you do

>>71209210
Simply, blame Mille and Enna. I don't think Elira would expose herself into doing that when she has literally the biggest bitches as friends.

>>71208930
Only if you like 10 hour JRPG streams with lots of dead air

>>71209060
Go back to your doxxsite sis

>>71209266
I think there was a collab at Elira's house? That could be why. Still, Doki never mentioned anything about anyone being a bully. Elira self-reported hard and the "we getting doxxed" is ridicolous when they are the one disclosing the documents that were sent to HR.
Let's be real, if nothing has been done in 2 months about those documents, is because they had a point. It's a fucking corpo we are talking about, defamation lawsuits should be the base bread for their lawyers.

>>71209030
>implying paid vacation
I don't know how to break it to you, but most vtubers don't get salaries.

>>71209060
Wow, you sure can paint a pretty neat and tidy narrative when you completely shit all over the timeline of events!

>>71209308
>free validation
Having CCV, subcount, membership, merch sales and superchats collaps is about as much of a hard hitting lesson as one can get without being driven off the net.

>>71209060
Are you going to spam this thread to bumplimit too, sister?

>>71209467
I meant basically not streaming/doing any activity without getting called out, but then again if everyone is doing collab and you are watching death note and sleeping all day, that is telling.

>>71209461
>Off collab at Elira's
Could something have happened there? I know Selen was definitely uncomfortable. It would make sense at to why Elira's house was mentioned.

>>71209321
Except she insinuated herself by placing her right in the thick of those two biggest bitches in that Black Stream.

>>71209495
Well, anykuro is still selling her shit...then again, so did with Selen.
Ok it's getting too easy to dunk, time for some schizo rrat to see if I bait a sis: she actually had a change of heart after being forced to do the black video, and has spent all this time preparing a bomb that she's gonna drop soon to sunk the yacht and redeem herself.

>>71209275
Average faggot proving that no one in this board is smart enough to read a three page notice and a tweet. You retards are so worthless you were excommunicated from the rest of the site

>>71209495
True, I would have more of a point if she streamed because I guarantee a lot of people will come forward to spread love. Right now there's only twitter responses which are mostly positive and support from her friends, like Millie.

>>71209721
>she says while she's using a fucking doxxsite as a homesite
I've known infinityniggers better than (you).

>>71209643
Look, all fun and games, but one should not forget that Doki said to not take it on livers. Honestly she probably would have said that without the black video if stuff started, all she actually did against livers is blocking Millie.
So I think Millie and Enna are the bullies, Elira was just the enabler.

>>71209266
They fucking raped Selen.

>>71209535
Usually sleeping for long hours is a sign of depression and she did say she slept for a "billion" hours. She's probably not holding up all too well at the moment, hopefully she starts picking up the pieces soon.

>>71209721
>Excommunicated from the site
And there's the reveal! Go suck an used tampon, Nijisis.

>>71209790
Not to sound like a shill but she literally always sleeps like a log. That's kind of her thing.

>>71209775
I actually though of that but no. Because if Selen had that kind of ammo, then they would be shitting in their pants.
Rape accusation with Medical Document proving it are actually taken very seriously in Japan too, sadly however victims are then dehumanized because the East is shit.

>>71209790
As I said, I will believe it when she admits it. Acting like nothing happened is just asking to be torn apart by the dramasharks for more months to come.

>>71209266
Or Selen could have been trying to prove that Nijisanji is unprofessional using Elira nepohiring Enna and Millie as an example like she tried using Vox to prove favoritism. It could even be some shit like her whining about feeling like she didn't fit in. What you faggots have is a confirmation bias. It's common with conspiracy theorists

>>71203994
I don't watch nijisanji and never did but a traitor is a traitor no matter what

>>71209976
Be careful to not overdose on the copium

>>71209976
>Accuses us of confirmation bias.
>Uses a theory to do so without basis.

Used tampon goes into mouth so you don't pollute the world with your shit, Nijisis. If it was that little they would be suing for defamation. It's 2 months, not even the most retarded corpo is that slow.
But you are gonna say "they will" like a fucking loser because you don't get how fucking pathetic you look here.

>>71209643

>>71209876
>rape accusation being taken seriously
>all parties are female
Good joke

>>71210130
>>71209876
What have I done? All I did was make an absurd joke no one was supposed to take seriously.

>>71209790
She probably is depressed and stressed. I remember Mata saying something about her friend in Japan was throwing up over stress and I kind of assumed it was someone in Niji. She flew over a 10 hour flight and the day she got there everything blew up, days later she released the black screen video and the only thing we've heard since like 5 tweets. If she ever did lose her job she'd lose
>Visa she worked for
>Daisenpai status
>Easy source of income
>All the work she did for 4 years down the toilet
>Can't return to PL

>>71203994
Pretty much, yeah. Her overall vibe is pretty generic girl-next-door compared to the manic creativity of Pomu or even the bizarre lewdness of Finana. The only thing I can recall about Elira that I found interesting was when she found out she had aphantasia, because I had no idea that existed.

>>71210104
The faggots can't keep up an argument. Why would Nijisanji sue someone across the planet for little financial gain just to ruin someone? And I wasn't confirming anything so where's the confirmation bias, retard? You rejects are the one using Elira being mentioned in the document as proof Elira hit her over the head with a steel chair

>>71210620
Well you should blame the one who spoke against Elira by tossing her into this when Doki only blamed management.
I believe her name was Elira.

>>71210492
>Can't return to PL
I'm sure she can find some way to single to her discord or some other fan community about a new account. She must at least have some way to contact her mods and have them spread it to relevant spaces.

>>71210492
>Daisenpai status
Fuck off she doesnt deserve that title

>>71210492
So basically she sold out and now she is still gonna lose most if not all of it. She put herself into this situation overall.
She needs to apologize and blame someone else, but corpo will not allow that and she will pay for it. Maybe it's due time to call those clique points and have the branch fight back for her, blaming Niji may be the only way out.

>>71210844
Like it or not it's what the marketing is plus she basically gets that right by forfeit. Pomu would have been the rightful holder of that title if she was still with the company.

>>71210712
Also this. She can always start from zero. I've seen worse returns, but then again she may fear to get Mikeneko status.
Sadly the only thing that could truly save her is Doki supporting her, but that's not happening. It would be on "Pope forgiving his shooter" saint level.
>>71210844
Pomu will always be Daisempai. Even as twitter only she has more traffic than Finana and Elira in a month. Sad but true.

>>71203994
duh, if she was entertaining then she would've been more popular

>>71210935
NTA but even Elira herself doesnt like being called daisenpai

>>71211060
Yeah, I know. Like I said, it's Pomu's rightful place.

>>71211009
>Sadly the only thing that could truly save her is Doki supporting her, but that's not happening. It would be on "Pope forgiving his shooter" saint level.
That is actually not out of the question. Not now, but in 6 to 12 months Doki might be willing to pick up the phone. Woman never truly held a grudge.

>>71211140
Elira as the dragon of rock bottom, huh?

>>71211140
There will be nothing to salvage in 6 to 12 months Anon. Q4 is guaranteed shit. Unless the company gets a full rebranding for EN, it will be a sinking ship even if they all get 3D.

>>71203994
She's average. I watched a stream here and there when it was a game I was interested in. That new model was a big draw, too.

>>71210130
It's more like Elira, Finana, and Millie if you ask me. Enna is afraid of the lesbos.

>>71211212
That was in the context of Elira going indie. Riku would rather set the yacht on fire than greenlight a Dokibird collab.

>>71211256
Yeah, this is accurate. She told a story once about a girl she was sleeping over with trying to touch her. Weird stuff.

I love her

>>71211342
Well, that's also a no then. Elira is having a Visa in JP. With no job she will get deported in 3 months, that's one fact.
Unless she's already looking for a 7/11 job, I doubt she has 6 months. Hell, even going indie may not be ok for the authorities.

>>71211342
>>71211457
Could she even go indie with her current rep?

>>71211256
I can actually see Finana being a weirdo. Daily reminder she tried to fuck over Pomu who gave her a chance to restore some goodwill with an offcollab.
But then again why Finana wouldn't be on the document then.

>>71211516
Anon, 2digits are Indie. Let's be real, even in her shitfest status she can gather 1 Finana. Problem is that's not a job in Japan without a contract.

>>71211516
No

>>71211457
Anon, I think you're going left field here. We're talking about whatever or not Doki is willing to make Pope-tier moves. They don't even have to be on the same stellar body for a collaboration or to exchange tweets. It doesn't matter if Elira has to go back to Canada or not. It'd infact probably be easier if she was in Canada. It doesn't matter if Elria is part of Nijisanji or not (in fact it'd be easier if she wasn't).
Now I'm not saying that she'll go Pope John Paul II, I'm just saying that it's not out of the question.

>>71211528
You're not seriously considering a joke to be real, right? It's just comically evil and a bit sexy.

Why would she record a video of Enna and Millie peeing on Selen while chanting "Piss baby piss baby, learn your place dragon lady" during their offcollab

>>71211765
The signs were there all along...

>>71211765
SOMEONE GEN ME THIS RIGHT NOW

>>71211765
Fuck, I love Enna and Millie now.

>>71211516
Absolutely, I expect her still to be able to breach 1.2-1.5k views in her current state and even if she went indie that'd be at least 700+ including her most hardcore simps. That's a pretty solid foundation to restart her indie career on (operative words being solid foundation and restart).
Her bigger problem would be people bringing up the past to new people, but that's manageable.

>>71209461
>>71209643
Selen wasn't at any sort of off-collab at Elira's house. The off-collab with the 8 girls was in Japan, in the Niji office, hosted by Petra. Not sure why people are thinking it was at Elira's house.

>>71212331
Now that's quite strange. So what the hell was the document that Niji staff showed to Vox, Ike and Elira? Did Anycolor fabricate stuff and the only real thing was the Vox recording that was sent by Doki?

>>71212331
It was hosted by Petra's channel but within the first few minutes Elira said she invited everyone to her basement.

>>71210688
>Well you should blame the one who spoke against Elira by tossing her into this when Doki only blamed management
No, I think I'll blame the retards making shit up and putting words in their mouth.

>Doki only blamed management
And other retarded lies you can keep telling yourself. Why would she need to accuse the other members if the termination notice already said that's what she was doing. We know she read the notice before accusing them, nothing proves she wouldn't have involved the other members even if Niji didn't spill all the beans. And why would Elira openly talk about what's in the document if she's guilty? Give me a reason that isn't "because she's dumb"

>>71212331
Why would they lie about the location of the off-collab? That is the last thing you would lie about out of everything. And yeah, that is presumably how her address got onto the document because within internal communications like Discord, it would not be surprising it would be included to get everyone in the same house.

>>71212710
To which Rosemi responded, "Wait, what?"
If it was at Elira's house, she would have been the one to host it, not Petra. Additionally, Petra talked about how she had to convince management to let them borrow one of the offices to stream from. Plus, I don't think anyone in EN would have a space setup for 8 L2Ds going at the same time, especially with no lag issues.

>>71212504
NTA, I legit do not think they've seen the document. They were probably given a list of bullet points and told to go over them. People have completely filttered this, but Doki said there wasn't any doxx information in the document. The things Elira complained in the Black Screen did not exist in the document, according to Dokibird.

>>71210620
>Why would Nijisanji sue someone across the planet for little financial gain just to ruin someone?
how sheltered are you retards? the rich suing poors just to shut them up is common. this month alone nintendo had a high-profile lawsuit despite not having a winning case and still got a settlement because they could afford to draw the case out and yuzu couldn't. anycolor not going to court despite trying to smear doki is telling.

>>71212504
>Could it be that all of my conspiracy theories are wrong?
>No, they just lied

Delusional retards

>>71213101
Incredible, I knew I had a vague recollection of that being the case. I read the long tweet by Doki but I forgot the exact details of it. I had a hunch that something wasn't right. What in the world is even going on? I feel like they are going to burn her, the company I mean. Vox felt like he was the pointman of that video despite it being hosted on her channel, he had the most air time out of the whole thing. God knows why Ike was there. I honestly don't know. Nothing about this whole thing makes sense.

>>71213117
I didn't know Nintendo was just like Anycolor and suing for piracy was the equivalent of suing for defamation. What fucking stupid comparison. Anycolor isn't going to waste God knows how much money and time pulling a Depp vs Heard across the globe. The only that got smeared is Niji. If Nijisanji is lying, how come Doki actually never once said they were?

>>71210492
She needs to have a collab with Doki and clear the air; talk behind the scenes and reach a point where they're ready to bury the hatchet and then end on good terms on a public stream, bring closure to the drama even if it means breaking the rules. It's literally the only possible out for Elira and I doubt Doki wants to be adjacent to drama for her entire career.

>>71213019
Her address wasn't in the document. Go back and listen to what Elira said in the black screen stream. She said it "alludes to where we live". If it had the actual addresses, there would not be any "alluding". My guess is that it brought up that Elira, Millie, and Enna all live in Ontario, probably because their close proximity allowed them to get invited to things (like Otakuthon) that Selen wouldn't get invited to because she is on the other side of the country.

>>71213101
>The things Elira complained in the Black Screen did not exist in the document, according to Dokibird
>The document alluded to my location
>Alluded

Find out what that word means

>>71213332
>>71213101
Could be more credence to the idea that someone above Elira is just that fucking malicious as to frame it that negatively for them to read by company pressure. See the incident with Nijisanji and the artist they were blatantly bullying.

>>71213498
I'm sure it went through legal to get that sentence but the intent behind it is clear. It's implying Selen wanted to doxx them.

>>71213714
My ray of sunshine would never bully anyone.

>>71213498
Elira sounded like she was very concerned about doxxing. There would be no reason for her to be concerned if there was no doxxing
>alluded
GTFO, even faggot like >>71213483 can point out the city. Doki said there were no addresses, I'm much more willing to bet that Niji fed them bullshit, than some "nudge-nudge" fuckery from Doki.

>>71211516
Probably, but it is dependent on a lot of factors.
>She needs to have some really good simps for mods (maybe Shu) that are willing to run her chat. Maybe for free.
>She's willing to accept that she'll have a ton of trolls early on. Maybe even for a month or two, or more.
>She's willing to accept that on some level, she'll be persona non grata. Both her and other EN Nijis probably will be at risk of being shunned by the wider EN scene.
>She really leans hard into GFE or saviorfags for money, and never has a single yab from here on out. If she does then that's it, her career is double over

>>71213771
>>71213848

You're both retards. There is no double speak going on. The city where she lives being mentioned is a good reason to fear the document going public. The exact address of where she lives would never be considered her location only being "alluded" to

Sisters found this thread.

>>71213782
I'm not completely absolving her in this incident, but there needs a better logical reason behind what exactly they were reading, and all the questions surrounding the black screen stream. My gut still tells me it was corporate that told them to do "something" and put all the responsibility onto the senior liver for NijiEN like in typical Japanese corporate bureaucracy, instead of management dealing it like they should, given that's what managers SHOULD be doing, but Nijisanji's managers do nothing but collect their salary, and tell the talent to do all the work. I think Elira is guilty of incompetence, and having her own biases, but that's mostly the fault of being dumped all the responsibility of Nijisanji's managers not doing their fucking job.

>>71214061
Oh fuck off. You're always here to drag down discussion.

>>71214037
>The city where she lives being mentioned is a good reason to fear the document going public
They live in Ontario, not exactly a secret.

>>71203994
I don't care if Elira is good or evil, it doesn't matter in the slightest. Everyone started hsting on her, because they always remembered how "Doki attempted twice" and "the black screen video". I have dealt with a lot of narcs that used their own self harm and even suicide bait as something to gain public sympathy. Never understood why none of you'd get it. If Doki attempted once, I'd believe, but if she attempted twice then there's something wrong with her, not just with the company alone. Let alone the fact that Doki recorded Vox's bitching complaint a long time ago for some reason, if that only drove her to doing shit like suicide then I don't know to tell you, figure it out yourself. I will support Elira until she graduate, as a matter of fact. She has been my oshi since the day of her debut and nothing, nothing would ever change that.

>>71211516
Could she? Yes. Would she be successful? Also yes, depending on your views. Would this massive fuckup end up causing her an immeasurable amount of damage? Also yes. Even if she plays the card that she was forced to do so by management, that doesn't absolve her.

>>71214153
Its because of Millie and Enna too. Not a single one of them tried to hide that fact at all.

>>71203994
she's the pokimaine of vtubing

>>71214313
>She has been my oshi since the day of her debut and nothing, nothing would ever change that.
>1709

>>71214153
Ontario isn't a city. Other members live in Ontario and they weren't mentioned in the document with their location being alluded to so it had to be the city everyone knows Elira, Millie and Enna live in together.

>>71203994
GOODNESS GRACIOUS! I WANT TO HAVE WITH ELIRA NOW! ! ! !
AAAAAAAAAHHHHH MY DICK FAGGOT IS HARD IM GONNA CUM!!

>>71214313
Suicide survivors are known to be at risk for other attempts after the first.
The vox recording wasn't a complaint but some random shit.
Continue loving your oshi but you can stop pretending you have a point.

>>71214586
Khyo hater is my favourite new poster.

>>71206434
>>71206651
>>71208939
you guys are homosexuals

I really wish Elira look to my way so I can stop being delusional about obsessing with her and her clique friends *sigh* *squirt my little meatpole*

>>71214313
Based. There will be no capitulation. Love your oshi until the end.

>>71214313
Didn't ask

>>71214313
do NOT click viewsame on this webm
you have been warned

>>71214939
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>>/vt/image/tGt0yMrdVh359Dgna2WFTg

>>71214939
Silly Anon, I already know. I've been in every Elira related thread this past 4 weeks.

>>71214939
holy fucking shit
i should have listened

>>71214313
Also you, get some sleep. Jeez.

>>71214939
>it's actually Eliraschizo
Home.

>>71203994
Can't show too much emotions or people will start realizing how much of an asshole she is behind the scenes.

>>71211367
That was such a bizarre story.

>>71214689
>Suicide survivors are known to be at risk for other attempts after the first.

So are people just supposed to literally not do anything that might hurt a suicidal person's feelings even if the suicidal person is spreading horseshit about them? Dokifags are retarded

>>71215453
It's even funnier since knowing her, it probably wasn't true and she just had an Uki moment.

>>71215599
I tend to believe whatever weird story she tells, things are more amusing that way.

>>71214313
>I will support Elira until she graduate, as a matter of fact. She has been my oshi since the day of her debut and nothing, nothing would ever change that.
Someone who remembers what having an oshi is like...
I KNEEL elirafag

>>71214467
Hot!

>>71215525
When did Doki spread horseshit about anyone?Nijisanji self reported (twice) because they were that retarted

>>71214313
>She has been my oshi since the day of her debut and nothing, nothing would ever change that.
based

>>71208825
Not doki. Must be a 6 thing.

>>71214313
Fag

Her model is pure sex and activates my neuron.

>>71217971
Anyone who unironically says "self reporting" self reports themselves to have below optimal IQ. Publicly accusing people of harassment is spreading horseshit. Just because they warned people of the horseshit that would be spread doesn't mean it's not horseshit

>>71203994
Depending on the stream, I usually just skip literally all the gatcha streams to the chatting sections, but the JRPG games playthroughs are hella fun

>>71203994
>boring streamer
Yes, she was as boring as most 2view indies. If her PL applied to other corpos instead of Niji she would never get a slot.
Her only probable upside is GFE so she'd might have had a chance with VAllure or EIEN but it would still be really tough. She would get kicked out of Production Kawaii for sure (just like Oceane) with how bad her chemistry is with well-adjusted people.

>>71219179
Anyone who believes Nijisanji statements at face value reports themselves to have below optimal IQ.

>>71219179
NIJISEETHE

>>71205985
I think you just have shit taste, retard. That or you never actually watched her and just wanted to write an anti-novel

>>71206581
considering the amount of likes on her posts, I have no doubt she'll still get 2-4k ccv of diehards. And I will be among them. Then her sexo model, great singing and fun antics will slowly grow her viewership of newfags who have no clue Selen ever existed.

>>71206689
thats not exactly fair, that thread only exists anymore just as a Pomu shrine and repository, there's nowhere else to talk about her

This entire time I thought her name was "Elira Pandora"

>>71207276
She still is a far superior singer, a little (unfounded) drama doesn't change that

>>71214036
>Has to rely on GFE
My god, that’s grim. What’s the point in trying to return if you can only do it as a camwhore?

>>71207765
oh she will, her twitter activity is ramping up more by the day, she's got the singapore concert they've been shilling, Millie said she's doing good and will be back soon, and Scarle implied that she was hanging out with them at the offcollab, but since Enna got sick the teams would have been uneven so thats why she participate. She will be back and better than ever!

>>71221177
Not according to the entirety of Japan, and even NijiEN. Let me call the alocucks, I will love the cage fight.

>>71221316
>Implying stuff equal truth
How come she wasn’t on the stream thumbnail? Even Enna was there. Was she planning a Vox, she should thank the gods that didn’t went through, that collab was a nuke.

>>71203994
She's one of those "comfy" streamers play long JRPGs in 30 parts. If you like that type of content she is great, otherwise it's the lamest thing imaginable.

>>71206565
Lobotomy kaisen has truly blossomed

>>71221097
It’s called Lazulight anon, Every other streamer has a single one.

>>71221372
Someone getting a massive marketing push and higher popularity doesn't always equate to talent, there are countless millionaire singers that would get mogged by girls in local dive bars that never had the same opportunities. She's not as good as Enna, I'll give you that, but she is better than Suisei.

>>71221026
Can’t wait for the newfag to video search her after a stream. It will be mindblowing.
That’s why you don’t fake nothing happened cuck, the internet exist.

>>71221530
it was supposed to be a surprise. Think about it. There were seven girls on the thumbnail, and they split into groups of 2. What was the last girl going to do? Oh right, join up with the surprise guest. And Scarle said she met up with other EN members in japan that weren't in the offcollab. So put 2 and 2 together.

>>71203994
She was pretty funny. I liked her. Her twisted wonderland streams with petra were hilarious.

>>71214313
A lot of Doki talk for someone who is posting about their oshi.
Methinks the Nijisis can’t even falseflag right.

>>71221692
Newfags would take her at face value.

>>71221607
because there is no more Pomu, its just a thing to keep her memory alive now. There is no Lazulight, I mean you wouldn't keep calling them Myth when its just Gura and Kiara left, even though its technically accurate

>>71214037
Prime talkfag. It’s been teo months and no adress has come out. Because no lawsuit and the documents weee meant for Niji office only. So this entire faggalk about doxxing was only in her mind. She is the only one who doxxed for free who was on the doc.

>>71221692
oh that video will be gone at some point, its not staying up forever. Sure people probably archived it, but who the hell is going to search for scandals on their favorite new chuuba? You just watch their channel and their official vods unless you're a schizo

>>71221822
Yeah, last guy who said that is now the second clown. Oh sorrry, i meant your dicksucker nijisis.

>>71206581
>Elira could get Finana levels
Grim

>>71221786
Grim. Means she learned nothing and she’s doomed. Especially from Vox failing to return with that shitty jump back.

>>71203994
Most girls non-japanese streamers are boring imo. They need to have something special about them to not be boring, for example Calli is boring too but she tries to sing and do music, Ina is boring but her drawings are amaizing, Gura is Cute and Funny, etc.
Yes, she's boring and evil.

>>71222022
>People use Youtube only for one channel.
Seamonkey genes showing here. Even Youtube itself will algorithm people to all the dramatubers automatically.
Get back here when you are not lost in your dreamland. Especially if she takes down the video without an explanation, she will become the new incident of the week.

>>71221895
The main issue is that Elira has been MIA since the black screen stream outside of a couple of recent tweets. Finana is away in Japan doing company stuff. Before that though, it wasn't as one sided Pomu but I would say she got the most love out of anyone in that group. Not surprising considering her background and how after debut, she shot up to the board's favorite inside the group. Here's a poal from before Obsydia debuted.
https://poal.me/9nt2ei

>>71222312
speak for yourself, I find her charming and fun. She is dumb as a stump, she has a great laugh and a cute catchphrase, and is an amazing singer. She reminds me a lot of IRyS now that I think about it. They're both absolute morons that I wonder how they even get through life being so stupid, but they're earnest and cute and try hard, so I love them and watch them anyway.

>>71222321
they have an easy explanation though, we want to put all the drama in the past and move on to a new positive chapter, we want to respect Selen's privacy blah blah, its a simple thing to put positive spin on to get rid of

>>71222413
Anon, Elira’s future is grim but even I wouldn’t be so cruel to give here the “Finana” sentence. She can still bounce back if shows she’s sorry and actuvely focuses on regaining trust, Finana is a flat ball.

>>71222413
oh absolutely, it used to be a bit more well rounded. But with Pomu gone its just kind of the last bastion for people to post about her. And like you said, the other 2 haven't given fans much to talk about in awhile

>>71203994
I liked the singing streams and she had some good moments in others. I liked her more than most other NinisaniEN but even so I can't deny her being "comfy" and it's sad it turned out like this.

>>71203994
yeah pretty much. I used to use her JRPG slop as a sleep aid

>>71222613
I wonder where it all went wrong for her. Her model is nice and she has a cute voice, she sounds a lot like Mumei. Just too many yabs dumping on her viewers I suppose. That and being a chonker

>>71222531
That’s exaclty what an apology is sis. That’s not just moving on like nothing happened. It isn’t hard, just admit it was a mistake and you want to move on, and then it’s up to you.
Don’t commit a Vox “keep up the fight” le retard Akuma. Elira doesn’t have the schizo to do that yab.

>>71221677
>Someone getting a massive marketing push and higher popularity doesn't always equate to talent
The fuck are you talking about? The "massive marketing and higher popularity" came after her first sololive, point by which she was already seen as an amazing singer with great songs and covers. Elira doesn't have as big a platform, granted since nijiEN is not as huge as even 2021 holoJP, but she hasn't done nearly as much as Suisei has with what she's been given considering she doesn't even have original songs and barely any covers.
Finally all of them are at a skill point where liking one over the other comes down to personal preference, and at any rate it's clear that a lot of people resonate with Suisei's singing and probably more so than Elira's, and it also helps that her songs are genuinely good.

>>71222771
its not really on her to fall on her sword though, it was a company mandated statement. If they put it on Ike's channel or the main niji channel or whatever, would everyone be dunking on her still? It was a calculated move by management thinking putting it on hers would be the best way to soften the blow, but it clearly did not.

>>71222734
Indeed too many yabs, no cooldown to change from GFE to streamer, yabbing friends so they don’t wanna collab anymore…you can only fuck around so much before you find out.
She needs someone to fully collab and syphon some ccv, but no ine trusts her with the Pomu incident and many others.

>>71222846
Sooo….you are basically saying NijiEN fucked her up. That’s the gist of your post, she was just marketing sold and neven given a chance.

>>71221026
>likes on her posts
Likes and retweets on twitter don't equal viewers though usually; Holostars would be far more popular if they did.

>>71222846
Suisei is endlessly shilled, promoted, and has a far bigger stage, metaphorically and literally, than Elira or anyone in niji. I mean hell, look at Beryl/Clara. She is probably the best vtuber singer I've ever seen, and she's stuck in PC with 900 viewers. Being the best doesn't always end up with you being the most popular, that's all. I love Suisei's singing, not dumping on her at all, she deserves her success. But you have to admit she had a ton more support behind her to get her to where she is.

>>71223042
>you are basically saying NijiEN fucked her up. That’s the gist of your post
wut? does nijiEN really prevent them from releasing original songs and covers at will or something?

ELIRA DID NOTHING WRONG!
Bullying? No proof just assumptions. Doki fans are the true bullies.

>>71222905
Sure, that is fine too, but do you REALLY believe she can say that shit? Even if Niji implodes the managers can still sue her for defamation over such statement.
Unless she has proof they got forced, and even there you can get sued and not everyone will believe you.
Saying the video was a mistake is as neutral as she can go.

>>71222613
Oh I don't doubt that, she has a heavy stigma against her for that stream. But it's not like people don't like her besides that. Elira was the overwhelming favorite after first impressions and Diamond City Lights before debut. Not going to post pictured poll but this was done in a general thread so there is heavy non-Niji bias in this.
http://poal.me/36j7tp
Here's the most recent poll of oshis from Niji EN back in October 2023. Elira was a force to be reckoned with inside the branch.
https://poal.me/t9xly3

>>71223204
yeah, there's no way she can actually turn it around and say 'they made me do it' I'm hoping a simple 'we should have respected her privacy and we're putting all that in the past now' and then never mentioning it again is what she does, thats about the best case scenario.

>>71223124
Then who were you blaming there? Because it seems the subject is who should have given her more chances to sell and appear, more than Suisei.
Caught off narrative nijisis? Can’t shit on the corpo to save your “”””oshi”””””?

>>71223144
Tell that to the Nijisanji twitter account. They're the dumbfucks who implicated them, and set the fire.

>>71223316
what are you even talking about? hololive is the idol factory, nijiEN has never promoted their girl's singing nearly as much

>>71223238
>158 votes
Are you creating these stats out of your ass? That’s not even a Finana of viewers.

>>71223414
Then why you went down that road? It’s not me who wrote a wallpost of her “not having as many chances”.
Should we know blame Holo for having done more?

>>71223119
>Suisei is endlessly shilled, promoted, and has a far bigger stage
yes, now. not back in 2021 and before, which was the point of the original post. i don't think anyone denies there are better singers out there and suisei has said so on record and i'm sure even elira believes that, but elira also has a platform that even people like clara don't have and she hasn't done much with it musically and also higher technical skill doesn't translate to higher appeal necessarily, a lot of people think irys is a great singer but don't feel much when listening to her, compared to people like towa who doesn't have an incredible technical voice but that moves people anyway.

>>71223316
i genuinely don't know what the fuck you're talking about. nijisis? if anything i'm shitting on niji and her if you want to take my post as cynically as possible.

>>71223432
How many people do you think participate in threads on this board especially back in 2021? Even before the Unique IP count was gone, that number is pretty accurate as to how many people would participate in a thread and for something big like Lazulight announcing, that sounds about right. The NijiEN was a general so getting even less sounds about par the course.

>>71223306
Mee too, I was answering the guy who said “she was forced”. Sorry man, but she nuked any chance to say that when she moved fo Japan.

>>71223559
>Literally writes “Poll from 2023” in the post
Bruh stop being a faggot and give me actual stats before speaking.

>>71223542
Thats true, I agree with that. IRyS stuff all sounds technically proficient but there's not much heart behind it. They just give her song after song and she churns them out, they aren't really special to her like say, Kiara's or someone like that.

Elira's part in this will not just be forgotten because it is integral to the final downfall of NijiEN.
Trying to hide it, to ignore it, will only bring more eyes to it.
She is being boosted by LuxNoc cultists and literal twitter NDF, fickle supporters who will throw her under the bus if they were so inclined.
The best Elira can hope for is a gradual ccv rot as she hides behind her 3 weeks sub and mods. Then when NijiEN inevitablh collapses, it's back to her cushy Canadian mansion.

>another episode of "sings better, deserves more success"
good songs will always be king. yes, you logically need to sing well so you sound at least musical, but past a certain threshold it's about both promotion AND making music people actually love. you can have all the shilling in the world but if it doesn't stick with people they'll leave in a few minutes, and if you make fantastic music with great singing but you don't even let people know you won't have an audience in the first place.

(also the music talk is way more interesting than whatever the fuck is going on at the same time)

>>71223808
if nothing happens after the shareholders meeting, there will be no final downfall. Even if their numbers aren't nearly as good as they were, its still free money. At this point the assets are bought, the models, the infrastructure, its all done. Any money is just free money they're getting, why would they ever stop doing that?

>>71223725
Did you actually even look at the date of the comments on the polls? If I was trying to cook numbers I would not post actual links and post pictures i edited instead.

>>71223879
yeah, it's a shame you can rarely have an actual discussion /here/ that doesn't devolve into shitflinging

>>71204150
I don't want to fuck Pekora or Henya. I watch them genuinely.

>doki says nothing publicly
>management says she told them she was bullied by other members
>elira names herself and two others as bullies

There's been bigger turnabouts on the internet before, after ProJared I don't ever regret being skeptical until the full truth is revealed.

>>71227019
>ProJared
qrd?

>>71227154
Too long for a qrd really, but the gist of it was accused of pedo shit, the "victims" posted "evidence" and big docs, he got a lot of shit for it, went radio silent, then like half a year later made a video with his own fully compiled evidence proving it was all bullshit

>>71227501
based
thank you anon

>>71227154
His whore ex-wife accused him of adultery and "fans" accused him of soliciting nudes from minors.
That tanked his reputation until he came out with his dick swinging dropping receipts left and right that they were all lying cunts.
He's very lucky he had receipts or he'd have been branded a pedo for life just based on some Twittard accusations.

>>71227501
Projared didn’t had a big corpo or was literally sent the documents. And again Doki only pointed the finger at managment.
Stop trying to hope of a turnabout, livers should have stayed out and not do that video. Even if it was “corpo mandated” that is the proof they would have to collect in a way that cannot be countersued for japan retarded defamation law.

>>71227813
I'm not trying to claim the two situations are exactly the same or even similar, hell I'm not even necessarily claiming Doki was lying or wrong, just that I learnt from that to be skeptical of absolutely everything because even in the face of, at the time, overwhelming odds sometimes the truth can blindside you.

>>71203994
>we
nah

>>71228695
I think that's a good mindset to have, however I can't see what justifies either the termination notice or the black frame video. That's my real pet peeve instead of whatever happened internally.
The girl made an attempt and was basically laid off while in the red last year and the billion dollar company tries to smear her name not once but twice. It's not even about explaining the termination itself, that much was expected already from her telling people to reupload the mv imo. It really was for all intents and purposes, petty af. You could argue the termination notice listing infractions was to get ahead of the story, but not the black frame video.
I don't think I'll see a turn around for this one. At least, not for Nijisanji.

>>71203994
She's pretty boring, I'm saying as a fan of her Xenoblade streams .She'll be fine. Her model is sex and gets a lot of fanart. Whatever her relationship with management is, or if it's just advantegous being able to communicate in fluent japanese, Anycolor will protect her. An employed liver will always be less neglifible than a terminated liver, after all.

>>71221954
Another clown, she publicly stated she would post the documents in her Neopets stream. Just because she wanted all her documents to not be shown doesn't mean they won't to people who are relevant to the situation, the only thing kept private were things that they agreed to keep private. You dumbasses still can't give a good reason why people who are supposedly guilty would willingly give out evidence, tell people what's in the document and outright say they were being accused of harassment.

All the retarded rrats about Niji members being malicious are dumb too. Selen said she was "harassed due to mismanagement" not because Elira wanted to skin her alive and make her into a coat

>>71223373
So there's no proof so you're passing the hot potato? Got it. Doki made the accusations, she should release the evidence to prove it otherwise she's blowing smoke up everybody's asses

>>71230530
>she publicly stated she would post the documents in her Neopets stream.
No she did not, you're either a liar or ESL if you think she did.

>>71230793
Give it up, it's the schizo sis arguing Doki meant the document sent to Niji when that was clearly not the case.

>>71230963
Since we know her medical documents and her written documents filled with accusations are two different things, what documents could she have been referring to that has "evidence and receipts"? Are you going to argue there was a super secret third document made specifically for the public that would remove mentions of the Vox recording and Elira's location again?

>>71229560
You emotional faggots don't seem to understand what smear means. Where did they lie? Give me a single timestamp or example where Nijisanji or the members in it lied. Doki smeared them with false accusations multiple times, when did they falsely accuse Doki?

>>71231345
Remember when your oshi slandered Zaion and you all believed it until Sayu had to provide full context for every bullet point to clear her name? If we use the same principle, now Niji has the burden to provide those receipts.
Don't want to be accused of having double standards or playing favorites now, do we?

>>71231345
For anyone reading and wondering, it's the tweet Doki made after the stream, probably copied from whatever document she made in advance with her lawyer.

>>71231615
>Cleared her name
My oshi didn't say shit. And holy revisionism. She admitted to everything that was said in her document but just tried to justify herself with sob stories or saying "they were dumb rules anyways".

Not only that but the person making harassment accusations is Doki so she has to prove them. I know you're the same Doki image spammer in every thread constantly trying to defend her good name but your logic is consistently retarded. You don't even know what the burden of proof is

>>71231208
>>71231909
Wrong quote, didn't mean to respond to the ESL one confused by words

>>71231911
My point is "guilty until proven innocent" was your modus operandi for Zaion, it can't change now that the shoe is on the other foot

>>71231909
Prove this document made in advance exists. I know you can't cause you just made it up

>>71231911
Your oshi is the company though

>>71232009
Actually no, my thought process was "sucks she got fired, was expected but oh well" to believing she was wrongfully fired initially since it was to appease retards on Twitter to rereading it after a while and realizing she just blatantly admits to everything they fired her for in the document but just tries to make it seem not as bad. Then I also discovered she still holds a grudge and betrays the trust of her Niji friends like Nina to try lighting up more drama on Niji.

So I came to the conclusion Sayu wrote that document out of spite and didn't even bother denying she was rightfully fired since she knows she was.

>>71228695
The problem is that unless we have a legal case, there is absolutely nothing we can conclude conclusively about what happened and Nijisanji and Doki aren't going to be dropping their sides of the story short of that. But it is undeniable that Nijisanji's handling of this has been repeated shotgun wounds to their feet and implicated themselves and Doki basically won the court of public opinion in the West which has consequences to Nijisanji's reputation and any future plans they have and that is going to cascade painfully to every member.

>>71232385
Ok 39iq

>>71203994
yeah, I remember most of her clips are just sheeshdeeznutscake jokes

still gets more more merch than POMU btw

>>71234985
Yeah, hard not to market visual perfection.

>>71203994
Elira is pretty good. She is continuously in top 5 among the girls in terms of popularity and her M&Gs sold with minutes. Only Selen, Pomu and Enna can do that. Considering how her fans forgave her so easily with the black stream, there is a high chance she can bounce back. She needs to stream first in order for that to happen though.

Elira is sex. They will like her even more, the more evil she became.

>>71203994
She is the intended face of the branch, but were like 4th place before the male branch, so yeah, kinda shit at her job

>>71210559
>She's an npc
Lol

>>71211009
>"Pope forgiving his shooter" saint level
Well, Doki is also yellow

>>71205274
Chibidoki is like a retarded fetus.

>>71232385
>she just blatantly admits to everything they fired her for in the document but just tries to make it seem not as bad
Can you source it? And please, not from your ass. A link or other documentation. Otherwise I am gonna call you full of shit anon.

>>71204081
Agreed

>>71243843
You want a source? Okay, go on Google and search up "One Girl's story Zaion" , you should see a document around the results. Then you want to open it and go to the section where she "debunks" the bullet point list. Now what you want to do is FUCKING READ and see how many times she either apologizes for breaking the rules or tries to argue a rule she broke isn't that bad. Average retard who can't do his own reps