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7102858 No.7102858 [Reply] [Original]

What the hell is wrong with Holostars?
No wonder people don't like them if this is how they speak to their audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wn5SvedXRA
https://youtu.be/9QyZ5ZY5uzA

>> No.7103011

>>7102858
Those two are the youngest in the group and are well known for being brats, hardly the best example of how Holostars acts overall

>> No.7103025
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>>7102858
yikes, it really does make sense. vtubers are all about the gfe/bfe experience, if they aren't willing to do that or remember their gachikois names (despite having a single digit fraction of the gachikois someone whose on top of the Holo world like Miko does who remembers and cares for every single one) they're completely failing at their job.

>> No.7103037

>>7102858
Based

>> No.7103076

>>7103025
>vtubers are all about the gfe/bfe experience
At least try and pretend like you didn't just get into Hololive in 2020 and watch any vtubers outside of them. A lot of vtubers are just entertainers and don't try and sell a deeper relationship to their audience at all.

>> No.7103077

>>7102858
Based

>> No.7103123

>>7102858
Izuru needs to shit on his fanbase more.

>> No.7103186

I can't tell if this is bait, an attempt to shit on the boys or promote them. Holostars threads are weird like that

>> No.7103198

>>7102858
All I see are the homos being based

>> No.7103301

>>7102858
Subbed to Izuru. Didn't know a Homo was this based.

>> No.7103358

>>7102858
they are playing two stances

ryonafags who want to self insert as the homostar
and fujos that are in lovehate relationships

>> No.7103559

>>7103025
well women like being insulted and abused right?
maybe it's an act to appeal to them?

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>>7102858
How is my oshi this based?

>> No.7109366

>>7103186
that should be your "my way of thinking is retarded" signal

The answer is
>OP: baiting for replies in either direction (they need (you)s from their reddit fatigue
>Holostars themselves: actually feel the way they said (YAGOO is an excellent manager)

>> No.7109416 [DELETED] 

>>7102858
Based kind truth tellers who don't want to exploit or manipulate their audience. A man's compassion knows no bounds.

>> No.7109480

This is obvious bait in attempt to promote the homostars,i wont fall for such treachery op

>> No.7110583

Have there been cases where a "friend" viewer has gotten too close to a vtuber?

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7111980

>>7102858
BASED BASED BASED all BASED
>>7103025
>vtubers are all about the gfe/bfe experience
Have sex.
I genuinely feel sad for you anon theres no saving you at this point

>> No.7112162

>>7110583
>Ollie

>> No.7112211

>>7103076
>A lot of vtubers are just entertainers and don't try and sell a deeper relationship to their audience at all.
Not when you consider the most successful ones

>> No.7112268

>>7103025
>vtubers are all about the gfe/bfe experience
The absolute state of newfaggots. It's actually pieces of shit like you who destroyed vtubing.

>> No.7112330

>>7112211
Not everyone needs to be "Rushia" to call themselves "successful"

>> No.7112339

>>7112211
Who do you consider the most successful vtubers

>> No.7112357

>>7102858
This>>7103011
Also Astel is a real troll/joker. Can't take everything he says at face value...sometimes. But Izu? He's 100% straight forward.

>> No.7112384

>>7112330
>>7112339
Find me someone that has more than 1 million subscribers, is currently active and doesn't do GFE

>> No.7112427

>>7112211
holostars are male so you have to consider the most successful male vtubers. think about the #1 male chuuba right now, does he focus on BFE? exactly.

>> No.7112438

>>7112384
Fubuki....Suisei....

>> No.7112446

>>7112427
>think about the #1 male chuuba right now, does he focus on BFE? exactly.
Kuzuha? From what I've heard yes he does focus on BFE, but I've never watched his streams and am not in the target audiance

>> No.7112502

>>7112446
He doesn't, 80% of his audience are males, he's just a normal ass gaming streamer.

>> No.7112524

>>7112446
lmao kuzuha channel is more 'your little brother with adhd that your mother has on a child leash when you go outside' experience than boyfriend experience

>> No.7112538

>>7112446
>From what I've heard yes he does focus on BFE
He quite literally does not. He's a retard who plays Apex. His audience is 90% male.
>>7112384
Kizuna Ai.

>> No.7112553

>>7112384
Nyanners

>> No.7112565

>>7112438
>Fubuki
With that friend/wife play and the monthly ASMR?

>Suisei
I don't watch her but considering people say that fucking Pekora is GFE, just targeted at a specific audience, maybe that applies to Suisei too? If not she's the exception

>> No.7112578

>>7112502
>>7112538
he mentioned in a recent stream that his viewers are 70% male. the 80% is from last year i think.

>> No.7112697

>>7112427
Forget about Kuzuha, Shibuya Hal is a male vtuber and is considered to be one of the most watchable vtubers on par with Hololive and female ones, and he doesnt do "BFE"

>> No.7112703

>>7112565
Fubuki quite literally denies being the viewer's wife/girlfriend at every opportunity. She collabs with males all the time. GFE means fucking nothing if you honestly consider her to do GFE.

>> No.7112715

>>7112502
>>7112524
>>7112538
Not trying to nitpick too much but who does he get his money from if we know? Because he could have 20/30% of insane fujos gachikois that makes most of his money. If not, then you're right, BFE seems not that important for males

>>7112538
Is nyanners not GFE?

>> No.7112746

>>7112565
>considering people say that fucking Pekora is GFE
That's the problem, people who haven't had a conversation in the past 5 years and who imagine their marriage to the girl that said thanks when they held open a door call literally anything gfe/bfe.

>> No.7112760

>>7112565
No, Suisei shoots that kind of shit down instantly. She barely even reads sc. Usually just says thanks, bye and ends the stream. And a once a month asmr? Really? But all other times she shoots that kind of shit down too? But this ONE stream a month is GFE....man, just stop. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

>> No.7112790

>>7112715
no offense but what is your definition of BFE/GFE? someone having gachikois or a fujoshi fanbase (and by the way fujos are not AT ALL the target audience for BFE) doesn't necessarily mean they do BFE/GFE.

>> No.7112794

>>7112715
>Is nyanners not GFE
No you retard. Jesus you people think vtubers existing and being female is them doing GFE now. What a fucking overused buzzword.

>> No.7112962

>>7112715
His fans? Who else? And where on earth did you ever get the idea that Kuzuha is BFE, stop reading fanfictions on twitter sis

>> No.7112963

>>7112384
Every holo with over 1M that isn't Rushia. You don't know what gfe means.

>> No.7113107

>>7112963
They all play into it at various levels. Even Korone has her pseudo yandere "Don't watch other girls" schtick. Regardless of whether you think what they do qualifies as GFE they all want gachikois and will do what they need to to get them.

>> No.7113172

does virtual gorilla do BFE

>> No.7113175

>>7113107
>they all want gachikois and will do what they need to to get them
Yes, that's why Fubuki constantly denies her fans' wishes of being their wife and collabs with Holostars against their wishes. Because she's desperate for gachikois. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.7113241

>>7112746
>>7112963
Go say that to the nousagis, they have a very different opinion of the situation

>>7112760
As I said, I don't know about Suisei, I don't watch her. But for Fubuki I assure you that some people are into that

>>7112790
That's the thing, it's hard to define because a vtuber could do nothing to specifically bait it but people could still consider GFE

>>7112962
Yeah sure, his fans, I'm asking for a demographic breakdown. If you don't have one just say it

>>7112963
Yeah sure, try to argue Ame isn't GFE, good luck with that. You could also say that for Mori, Ayame and probably Watame pretty easily

>>7113175
Come on, she collabs once a month at most, and it's almost always with Oga, which people like. She also always play with the wife/friend as teasing. It's like arguing that orgasm denial isn't sexual because the girl is denying your orgasm. Maybe it's weird for you, but some people are into that

>> No.7113282

>putting mentally ill retards in their place
BASED I KNEEL HOMOCHADS

>> No.7113339

>>7113241
>I'm asking for a demographic breakdown
you've literally been told the majority of his viewers are male and that he doesn't do BFE

>> No.7113346

>>7113172
I would watch if he did.

>> No.7113401

>>7113339
Yeah and like I said I'm ready to concede that point. I'm just curious about where his money comes from, to see if the crazy fujos narrative is real (which is probably not from what you've said). It's curiosity, not trying to argue further. As I said, I don't watch him

>> No.7113412

>>7112963
>Marine
GFE
>Pekora
GFE
>Korone
shes taking the GFE route shit and starting to do ASMR and ask koronesuki to treat her like their gf and also for them to harbor feelings of love towards her in her member-only streams
>Ayame
Cuckoldry GFE
>Aqua
autistic GFE
>Rushia
...........her name alone says enough
>Noel
...moo!
>Kiara
fullblown insecure pity GFE
>Polka (not 1M but still)
menhera private GFE
>Okayu
"yes treat me as your okazu (fap material)"

Do i need to say more?

>> No.7113445

>>7113241
>Come on, she collabs once a month at most, and it's almost always with Oga, which people like
No they fucking don't you retard, there's a reason Oga gains no subs from those collabs, the borderline flirting those two engage in draws gachikois away, not in. Do you know why Rushia denies being able to talk to men, and panicked when Holostars showed up on her screen for a split second by accident? Because they don't fucking like male collabs. If Fubuki wanted to do GFE, she would actually act like a girlfriend, and she wouldn't put on a goddamn master and servant show with another man. What gachikois like is reflected in superchats, and there's a reason she isn't a top earner. You're just twisting the definition of GFE so that it fits your skewed nonsensical view of vtubing.

>> No.7113452

>>7113339
Any evidence or are you saying I should take some random /vt/ Homostar fan at their word?

>> No.7113458

>>7113401
i'm extremely confused now, are you talking about BFE or fujobait?

>> No.7113468

VTubers are not your friends.
Your waifu is not real.
They are putting on an act.
Take your meds schizos.jdhhv

>> No.7113489

>>7113458
Neither, I would just like to know if the money follows the same gender distribution as the viewers. It's not to make a point or argument or whatever, it's pure curiosity

>> No.7113567

>>7113241
>go say that to someone else who also has an incorrect opinion
Ok? What in holy hell kind of retarded argument is that?

>> No.7113588

>>7113445
Yeah sure, now look at how many akas she gets in those ASMR streams. Fubuki has a audience that's more tolerant of male presence than Rushia but gives less money. How hard it is to understand?

>> No.7113606

>>7113567
If 90% of the people giving Pekora money thinks she is doing GFE, then she is doing GFE. It's as simple as that

>> No.7113615

>>7113412
Sure, say as much as you want it won't stop being wrong.

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>>7112427
>>7112502
>>7112524
>>7112538
>>7112962
Kuzuha and Kanae pander hard to that shit dont play dumb you faggots. They even made a whole channel just for that

>> No.7113662

>>7113606
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

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7113698

>>7113637
kek

>> No.7113706

>>7113452
kuzuha channel
march 2020, 80% male https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA8NtHc2i78
july 2021, 70% male https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm0ki7d_Rac
>>7113637
fujo shit is not BFE you idiot and the chronoir fujoshi are not a majority of their viewers, if they were then the couple channel would match their respective subcounts but it doesn't.

>> No.7113757

>>7113662
Considering we're arguing about "are the top vtubers doing GFE?", this is not a fallacy but the way you should reason. Do you think we should take into account what the vtuber thinks and not what the majority of her audience thinks? That sounds stupid

>> No.7113765

>>7113588
Doing baity sexual content that gets superchats rolling in does not equal doing GFE. You have to actually act like a girlfriend to do GFE. There is a reason there is such a huge power gap in earnings between Rushia and Fubuki. Even Coco did GFE more than fucking Fubuki. You cannot just skew the definition of GFE so that it is "anime girl acting sexy for an audience". That is just not what it is. If that is all it amounted to fucking Veibae would count as GFE and she talks about sucking other men's cocks on stream.

>> No.7113829

>>7113637
Fujobait isn't BFE you dumb fuck. Kanae and Kuzuha only do that shit on a side account to begin with, they don't pander on their main accounts which are dominated by male viewers all the same. Yumejoshi and fujoshi are two entirely different markets.

>> No.7113888

>>7113637
Kuzuha Channel still has a majority amount of male fans. Which as you can see obviously has only a fraction of Kanae and Kuzuha's subscriber counts. But keep talking about shit you know nothing about
>>7113489
And understand that BFE=/= fujoshi pandering, and you retards will be called out on it every time. Is it GFE if Holos grope each others boobs and bathe together?

>> No.7113916

>>7113829
one day /vt/ retards will figure out "fujoshi" doesn't just mean "woman" but we're not there yet

>> No.7113962

>>7113765
>You have to actually act like a girlfriend to do GFE
Which is what Fubuki does during her ASMR streams? Did you watch any of them?

> There is a reason there is such a huge power gap in earnings between Rushia and Fubuki
Yes, that's because Rushia leans way harder on the GFE stuff. It's a spectrum

>Even Coco did GFE more than fucking Fubuki
Yes she did. That doesn't mean that Fubuki did nothing. Compare 2020 April/May Fubuki to actual Fubuki. There is more GFE

> That is just not what it is. If that is all it amounted to fucking Veibae would count as GFE and she talks about sucking other men's cocks on stream.
I don't know who that is, sorry

>>7113888
>Is it GFE if Holos grope each others boobs and bathe together?
lesbian baiting is something else that's orthogonal, but it doesn't detract from GFE since people don't take lesbians seriously

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7114001

What's your favorite Kuzuha BFE moment lads? For me, it's got to be when he called a bunch of 9 year olds shitters on Pokemon Unite.

>> No.7114053

Woman are into men verbally abusing and degrading them, every single one of them

>> No.7114057

>>7114001
when he had that guitar 'learning' stream and said guitarists hit women

>> No.7114092

>>7113962
My point is you're confusing BFE for fujo pandering and I made an example wrongly calling GFE yuri pandering, but I guess you don't get any of the words you're using which is sad, why are you even here dying on this hill and making a fool of yourself
Doing a GFE thing occasionally is not being called a GFE vtuber or else LITERALLY every female vtuber is a GFE one because males will think "gosh I wish she was my girlfriend because she talked about her day!"

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7114134

>>7114053
Kiara would like to differ, shes a massive SJW that hates men

>> No.7114167

>>7113962
>Which is what Fubuki does during her ASMR streams
GFE is not something that is switched on or off. You either act like a girlfriend to your viewers or you do not. Fubuki does not. Her pandering ASMR streams do not change the fact that day in and day out she does not act like a girlfriend to her viewers in any way. If you don't even know who Veibae is you are an extreme newfag and I don't know why I'm trying to reason with you.

>> No.7114433

>>7114134
That just means she's weeding out the weak basedboys, she only wants the strongest men to abuse her.

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>>7114134
>>7114433
Kiara is just scared of dominant males who she cant control. She had an easier time when she was shitting on Gigguck because that guy is full of onions
https://streamable.com/nazbb5

>> No.7114807

>>7114728
>full of onions
jesas wtf is that soft censor, i didnt know that saying "onions" was a no no word lmao

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7114853

>>7114807
>>7114807
s-o-y

>> No.7115184

>>7113606
Pekora "is" doing soft GFE, dont kid yourself

>> No.7116095

>>7112794
Nyanners is PSE, not GFE.

>> No.7116133

>>7103025
sex

now

>> No.7116629

>>7103076
>A lot of vtubers are just entertainers

How do call someone 'new' then say shit like this. Even the most popular male chuuba panders to his female fujoshi audience.

>> No.7116828
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7116828

All i've gotten from this thread is that half the holostars are insufferable whining losers that bite the hand that feeds them

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>>7103076
>A lot of vtubers are just entertainers and don't try and sell a deeper relationship to their audience at all

Imagine being a vtuber and not pandering to your love deprived audience. No wonder they're failing. Can't even do one simple job correctly.

>> No.7116880

>>7116828
pic unrelated

>> No.7116970

>>7116629
a man playing conqueror's blade or fucking tarkov for 10+ hours is not fujo bait

>> No.7117118

>>7116828
you're one to speak unicorn fandead-chama

kys

>> No.7117195

>>7116828
>posts image for a prime example for why holostars keep their fans at a distance and don't encourage schizos.

>> No.7117252

>>7117195
well looks like that method ain't making them too popular from what i can see

>> No.7117376

>>7102858
Astel is 100% correct though, good wakeup call for his 15 year old JP fanbase as well as the schizos here who're mentally about as mature.

The other guy I don't really give enough of a shit about to care.

>> No.7117462

>>7116095
Palestine Securities Exchange? Based.

>> No.7117514

>>7112715
Nyanners streams are more like 70% stand up comedy, 30% "I love my fans" hugboxing.

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>>7116828
Your retarded lonely men pandering oshi is always on edge and is scared of her own fans but despite that still keeps on her fake act to milk those middle aged salarymen bucks.
She got her Line number leaked recently and was paniching like an autistic kid and was unsure whenever to tell her manager that because she felt like it wasnt that much of a big deal, now imagine if any of her other info got leaked what would happen to her? She doesnt think past that thats why shes single and always cries about it on her members only streams.
GFE shit pandering is a mistake, it breeds mental illness.

>> No.7117611

>>7117376
I'd say he's morally correct but being moral isn't what makes money for a vtuber.
I can't take him seriously when Polka, Rushia and others that pander hard to gfe types are the most successful.

>> No.7117664

>>7117587
sounds based to me.
parasocial rights!

>> No.7117672

>>7117611
please name one big male vtuber who depends on BFE as much as rushia does GFE

>> No.7117695

>>7116629
Woman stream
>I'm in love with my viewers. Please don't leave me. I think about you every day. I'll stalk your profiles if you watch someone else
Man stream
>Time to boot up Apex with the lads

>> No.7117808

>>7117664
>sounds based to me.
say that again when someday you end up waking up in the morning and learning that something bad happened to her

>> No.7117863

>>7117672
what do you mean?
I'm not saying that men vtubers need to do bfe i'm just saying that a lot of female vtubers explicitly encourage their fans to be as close as possible.
And that's how they make so much money.

I'm not saying that there aren't other ways to profit but calling him correct when there are demonstrable examples of him being wrong is weird.

>> No.7117890

>>7102858
Izuru is based as fuck and he does some pretty great covers as well, his Imperial Girl cover goes perfectly with his voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rgkCnKggTc
He also did a "Its my life" cover in english unfortunately he took it down (i think for copyright reasons) although it can still be found on Facebook of all places

>> No.7117913

>>7116828
>holostars are insufferable whining losers that bite the hand that feeds them
says the person who's oshi contributed in ruining Hololive and vtubing by attracting lonely pathetic love deprived schizos in masses into the scene and now shit like that has become the norm

>> No.7117978

>>7117863
you specifically mentioned two female vtubers that in your opinion 'pander hard to gfe types'
i'm asking for a male equivalent, prove to me that this works for male vtubers.

>> No.7118044

Jp women are crazy and thats the market of holostars. Do more research how fucked their fetishes are. They dont like shit like vanilla. Its either S or M.

>> No.7118065

>>7117978
but anon, you know he can't because guys just don't do that. Kuzuha and Kanae are the most popular out there and they wouldn't be caught dead trying to bfe their viewers. The only one that kinda does this is probably Oga from holostars, and even then it comes off as playful.

>> No.7118073

>>7118044
>fetishists
>market of holostars
Lying out of your ass, you never watched them, and you get all your information from the board that does not watch vtubers. Try again

>> No.7118112

>>7117587
Next would be her house address and she'll get raped and stabbed by her crazy fans

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7118167

>>7117890
Speaking of Covers i've been listening to his Orangestar Cover almost everyday, its so satisfying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj1XOWOxTho&list=PLJUUeDla5LoVoQnTxnM9sh99GQTT64JaO&index=21

>> No.7118203

>>7117611
Astel turned his SC off for a month, and now lately he keeps forgetting to turn it back on, or he's doing it on purpose. I don't think he's worried about making the most money.

>> No.7118225

>>7117978
Let me explain this to you.
Men and women are different.
Women have a significantly easier time getting a boyfriend while it is much harder for guys to get a girlfriend. This means that there are a lot more lonely men than women.
This means that the demographic of vtube watchers that want gfe is magnitudes more than those that want bfe.
Women just need to be cute.
Men need to actually be interesting. That's what a lot of holostars fail at.
Compare them to the niji males.

>> No.7118266

>>7118065
there's harusaki air i guess?
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCtAvQ5U0aXyKwm2i4GqFgJg

>> No.7118302

>>7117890
This is my favorite Cover of Shogun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1GH-04ebzo&list=PLriaD0x42s-o0Qbuyga2z9PfCZ31lw1u_&index=2

Whenever i read disturbing manga like Ito Junji collection stuff, i always play it in the background

>> No.7118306

>>7117611
Nobody joins Holostars to be succesful, Anon.

>> No.7118326

>>7118266
>Kanae made what Harusaki Air earned in his lifetime, in a single day showing off some flashing colors
How do we save Harusaki Air

>> No.7118331

>>7118225
i was just saying BFE is not what made the biggest male vtubers big, because you mentioned GFE in your post. i'll admit that now i really have no clue what we're even discussing anymore.

>> No.7118409

>>7118326
it's ok unlike kanae air has an irl job so he'll make rent and won't starve

>> No.7118414

>>7118225
>Men need to actually be interesting. That's what a lot of holostars fail at.
you dont even watch them stfu

>> No.7118415

>>7117863
You know Marine said the exact same thing he did, right? He's not even talking about money.

>> No.7118478

>>7118414
if they were interesting they'd be successful.
Instead they just play apex 24/7

>> No.7118540

>>7117587
Why'd you post Lamy if you hate GFE so much? Is this thread just seethe by normalfags upset that their oshis will always cater to gachikois first?

>> No.7118559

>>7118414
he's trolling starsbro, ignore

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>>7118478
>Instead they just play apex 24/7
Thats "Astel" and thats what makes him incline day by day. He won a Tournament recently and his reputation is growing slowly now in the competitive scene.
Stop lying through your teeth the other members rarely even touch Apex, just say that you dont know anything about them and leave it at that.

>> No.7118793

>>7118478
I find it funny you trash them for playing Apex 24/7 (which is only Astel and on occassion some others) when some Nijisanji guys do the exact same thing. And by funny I mean retarded

>> No.7118895

>>7102858
>he doesn't get appeal of kusogaki tsundere
Typical male. They're baiting for the mindbreak BL doujinshi. This is how fujo baiting works.

>> No.7118963
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>>7117890
>>7118167
>>7118302
mine is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kvn8qpMUdQ

>> No.7119064
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New Astel song Cover on the 30th!
Cant wait bros

>> No.7119071

>>7102858
>we are NOT friends
>but keep me from being lonely because I hate it and so do you
I am genuinely too autistic to understand what he means.

>> No.7119083

>>7119064
there are several silhouettes
group song

>> No.7119119

>>7119064
?
?
Migabi
Astel
Izuru
Robeto

>> No.7119143

>>7119071
he hates his audience but needs to soften the blow so they don't abandon him

>> No.7119172

>>7119119
i'd say the remaining two are Temma and Oga/Shien

>> No.7119217

>>7119071
Friend - someone you genuinely like in spite of their flaws and who returns the favor, and you both feel very comfertable around eachother to the point where you can discuss everything that's really on your minds and be your true authentic selves around.

Audience - people who come to watch someone perform. Often seeking entertainment as a moment of escapism from reality.

Entertainer - attention-seeker. Provides content in exchange for attention.

>> No.7119256

>>7119071
Astel is calling out and pushing out the parasocial relationship that everyone is trapped in with their oshi. He's saying you're not friends because he can't do "friends" things with his viewers. He can't sit down and have a one on one conversation. He can't work out a resolution over an argument. Holomems can only regard their chat as a whole. So he's setting expectations. He appreciates the company of all his viewers as his viewers do him. But he and his viewers cannot be any closer on a personal level.

If anything, everyone else in this thread is autistic for blowing what he is saying out of proportion. You at least have the sensibility to ask.

>> No.7119490

>>7118302
I Feel like Izuru is at his best when he does songs that require screaming, he really goes all out and lets his throat loose with all the grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlll

>> No.7119581
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>>7102858
Based. Izuru should be manhandling his chat more often til they're just a bunch of leashed dogs.

>> No.7119632

>>7102858
I wouldn't consider Astel the best from Holostars. Still, while what he said is true, the guy is a fucking sociopath. I once watched one of his streams about teaching JP and the guy was so apathetic to anything that wasn't his own view of the words he translated. It was pretty gross. On this video he points out that he isn't a "real" friend which might upset some part of his hardcore fanbase but then right after he says his fans and him are like lovers? I wish he had a minuscule amount of understanding what's to be a fan of something. No you don't need to think they are your gf or bf, but you as a streamer don't need to treat them like disposable trash either. Treat them like people, not numbers.

>> No.7119765

>>7111980
Cringe, you aren't doing the Homos any favors.

>> No.7119815

>>7114134
>massive SJW
>says the word trap
I don't think so.

>> No.7119906

>>7119632
>>7112357
>Astel is a real troll/joker. Can't take everything he says at face value
Thats how Astel always acts also in that JP learning stream he had unarchived karaoke for hours prior to that and was stoned from all the beer he drunk

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>>7119906
>stoned from all the beer

>> No.7120998

>>7119906
Plus those long Apex endurance streams where he goes loopy and starts telling strange childhood stories due to being awake so long.

>> No.7121494

>>7119906
Right, stoned from beer (lmao) and that justifies him being a narcist person about small shit. Like I said, he doesn't need to act like his fans are his best friends or even friends, just don't alienate them by saying they are nothing to him while he is supposed to be streaming for people, not for him.

>> No.7121641

>>7119064
I want to head robechan’s cute singing voice again

>> No.7121656

>>7121494
>narcist
ESL aside you're getting really worked up over a single comment. He isn't alienating his fans and they're all mentally sound enough to not be offended at his words, it's always non-fans who think "wtf" at this clip. Sorry you watch girls who are too afraid to set boundaries.

>> No.7121991

>All these holobronies itt
Holy shit all this time i thought everyone was just playing pretend on this board but there's a lot of sick on the head people here.
Not being able to differentiate between a entertainer-audience relationship and distort it into a virtual girlfriend is seriously messed up.

>> No.7122043

>>7113916
>/vt/
For some reason i have seen that statement outside here, like in /fgog/.

>> No.7122071

>>7121991
are you a newfag?
we've been obsessed with purity since the beginning

>> No.7122193

>>7118306
They was, the problem is none of them expecting Holo-brand becoming Lovelive instead of IM@S

>> No.7123050
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>>7102858
AsuIzu LOVE

Roberu is about to hit 200k, I'm happy for our boys everyone.

>> No.7123466

>>7117587
Based.
GFE Hate.

>> No.7123522

>>7102858
If your chat was full of retarted weebs you would hate them too.

>> No.7124015

>>7121991
Most Holofags on this board that got in during 2020 are like.

>> No.7124438

>>7116828
based as fuck

>> No.7124708

>>7102858
>bait thread
have you seen the way those retarded teenage girls act even? it’s justified

>> No.7125702

>>7121656
Yeah I made some ugly typos. Still, I made that comment because I've watched some of his streams, not because I like to randomly sling shit at chuubas. There is a difference between being aware of your position as a streamer and setting boundaries, to straight up being a whiny bitch about how you don't like your fanbase if they love you in a way that you think is wrong.
Why the fuck do you think he is streaming? Maybe he isn't aware of what is he actually doing, but being a chuuba means you enjoy providing entertainment while being yourself. You don't fucking tell people how to feel or not, that's not his choice. If he wants to play "You guys only matter as long as you stay the fuck away from me" he can go back to whatever the hell he was doing before. I can bet you that if he had triple the amount of subs he has atm he wouldn't be spouting dogshit out of his mouth to the people who sticked around.

>>7116828
Based as fuck

>> No.7125834

>>7125702
You have really thin skin, you must be male.

>> No.7126110

>>7102858
wtf you niggers lied to me, this faggots are BASED
recommend some shit not APEX, I don't like it

>> No.7126296

>>7126110
Gaming wise Izuru only plays APEX, but his main content is singing, sometimes while playing Guitar/Ukelele himself.
https://youtu.be/P1GH-04ebzo This might also be one of the best versions of aishite aishite aishite around.

>> No.7126324

>>7102858
This is how homosexual men behave. It's typical.

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>>7125702
Holy shit.

>> No.7126800

>>7113241
>Come on, she collabs once a month at most, and it's almost always with Oga
She's also part of several TTRPG groups with male GM and players and is regularly guest on indie channels with experimental contents. Fubuki interacts with male all the time.

>> No.7126827

>>7126110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fq6mROCJJY

>> No.7127965

>>7114001
That moment he started a rivalry with Alice for playing the guitar

>> No.7131768

>>7102858
>What the hell is wrong with Holostars?
Nothing

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>>7121494
>narcist person
Wtf are you even on about? The guy has massive low self esteem if you wanna take a jab at a person and spread bullshit about them atleast do it to someone else who's not already down if you dont wanna be a bigger dick than you already are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WonE1aSw0fE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIozn1ET10k&t=91s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUn-DUtecZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQJ1wC-bQ9w
The only times where he cried is when his project got shut down by management because he felt like he disappointed his fans, cried during 2 tournaments because he blamed himself for the team placement and said that he couldve done better as a team leader and last but not least during Coco's graduation. He tries to shoulder everything behind the scenes and yet you heartless faggots still somehow manage to find reasons to take the piss on them
https://youtu.be/9s4WItswNFY?t=236

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>>7125702
you need help anon? do you need someone to talk to?

>> No.7137601

>>7134993
dont even bother, you cant reason with people like him

>> No.7138175

>>7134993
it's kinda cringe that he made the whole coco thing about himself when not even coco cared enough about holostars to collab with them.
She literally said that she didn't want to collab with men so as to not piss off her fans and especially her gachikoi.

>> No.7138180

>>7103025
>>7116846
>>7117664
>>7125702
cringe
>>7117695
based

>> No.7138869

>>7138175
>he made the whole coco thing about himself
Please tell me you're not actually this retarded

>> No.7140549

Astel actually based af, I didn't see the other one

>> No.7141268

>>7140549
the other one is just as based

>> No.7146089

>>7102858
They keep it real.

>> No.7149494

>>7114167
Not him but I wish I didnt know who Veibae is so im jealous his ignorance

>> No.7149540

>>7138175
People with no emotional intelligence should be banned from watching Vtubers.

>> No.7150741

>>7149540
that means banning 99.5 percent of the audience

>> No.7151067

>>7116629
Kanae harassing kuzuha and slowly mindbreaking him into doing gay shit was the best roller coaster.

>> No.7152128

>>7102858
actually based fuck gachis

>> No.7152170

>>7151067
this whole time we were wrong about who the groomer was

>> No.7152467

>>7151067
>>7152170
Blue oni wishes she had that kind of level of direct control over Kuzuha

>> No.7154338

>>7103025
>yikes
Go back faggotchama

>> No.7154404

>>7152467
>ywn be kanae channel's best friend and be groomed by him
why even live

>> No.7154649

>>7152467
who tf is blue oni, highlight fag only btw.

>> No.7155892

>>7134993
Calm down nigga it's just a drawing.

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