/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Imagine if Doki or Sayu also reply with an emote just to fuck with him

>>71112314
>The beginnings of Clique 2.0
Gunrun better learn not to court the madness of Nijisanji or he's looking at the same cancer growing within his own backyard.

>>71112314
Man, this is the last thing I want. This guy sucks ass, I'd take literally anyone else. Kill me.

>>71112417
>Clique
Is that what you losers call friend groups?

You retards keep bringing this up. It has already been clear that he plans to go indie. Doesn't mean he can't be friends with or collab with vshojo members.

>>71112516
Yeah, it's funny as hell. This isn't the chinese warlord era

>>71112516
>"friends"
they're all backstabbers

>>71112314
im happy to the x nijiEn to find the new home and new family WELCOME TO VSHOJO

>>71112536
nuh uh, muhammed from the numbers thread told me everyone who ever interacts with vshojo is being hecking poached by the embed twitch react retirement whorepo and their 11 gorrilion cia dollars

>>71112314
>no dookie in the replies
lmao, dookieturds just keep getting Ls

>>71112596
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike.

>>71112482
Zen, Mouse, Kuro, Mata, Aethel, Bao, Numi, Yuzu, Sinder, Giri, and many more have reached out to him. I don't think he's joining VShojo, but you'll definitely be seeing him around in collabs.

>>71112646
This aspect of things is a little unnerving because depending on where Quinn's loyalties lie, he may start feeding these other people info to blacklist Doki out of the big western indie collabs she wants.

>>71112579
Remember to take your meds.

>>71112704
>>/vt/thread/70358638#p70360647
Coincidence or not so subtle jab directed at Doki? You decide.

>>71112614
The guy who wrote this pasta is a joke. Some autistic on youtube seething about out of context clips.

>>71112790
He's talking about pidgeons, retard.

>>71112790
When has the wigger even been subtle?

>>71112790
Enough plausible deniability to mask it
But also just enough that I can't rule it out
Which is why I hate it
We'll have to see in the coming month how this pans out

>>71112704
Have you ever considered the fact that he's just happy to get out and do his own thing?

The only reason you lot are even blabbing that nonsense is because of the LK faggot talking about le epic grand plan of ndf to get a graduated liver to slander Dokibird.

No way he's gonna go near Doki whether friendly or hostile. And doki herself has said that she wants nothing to do with niji, ex liver or no. So even if he wanted to collab with her, it's not happening.

>>71112516
>friends
I bet this guy thinks PewDiePie and that guy with big chin are friends too.

>>71113071
>she wants nothing to do with niji, ex liver or no.


and then collab with yugo a.k.a unnamed

>>71112734
He’s right, that boy is infamous as a backstabber. He encourages harassment of his own coworkers.

>>71112314
if anyone would want to associate with Kyo now that there's nothing forcing them, I'm going to assume they're a bad person.

>>71112704
>Everything is a conspiracy against things I like or claim to like because I am a virgin with rage

>>71113241
>I am a virgin
ENNA its 22:00 in japan go to sleep now and dont forget the med.

>>71113186
Yuko got out ages ago though

>>71112314
Thankfully Sayu or Deerskin would never reply to this.

>>71112516
"friends"
Ugh, I really fucking hope he just drops off the face of the earth, but this scumbag might be here to stay.

>>71113349
yeah and unnamed and doki have collab tho..

>>71112314
More like
>shit stains who were part of clique (there is no good people in EN or Ex-EN)

>>71113317
I want Enna to already betray everyone left in Nijisanji by starting a defamation lawsuit against them for having mentioned her name in the blackbox stream. It wouldn't be pathetic unlike fighting anons on /vt/ over a grammatical typo.

>>71113071
After the shit he did to Zaion? He doesn't deserve to be happy. Fucker needs to get the fuck out of this industry entirely. He's COMPLETELY unrepentant and is constantly doubling down on being a complete cunt.

>>71112314
I had already lost all interest in the roach, this just shows I was right

>>71112516
You must stop calling your discord neet chat "friends".

I give it two years max until Matara drags Reimu, Millie and Enna into Vshojo.

>>71112314
>faggot drama magnet
>SEA 3DPD
>commie
>tranny
Nijivermin are actually trying to rehabilitate the images of four of the worst NijiEN members. How about you give up instead? They aren't victims. At least the first two had a major role in destroying the branch to begin with.
Not going to watch them. They not only do not have my sympathies, but I will actively anti them.

>>71113514
In a sense she is the purest form of vtuber since everything about her is manufactured and fake. The perfect kayfabe.

>>71112516
Hahahahahaha! Get a job 39iq.
You're really one of the retards who thinks the saccharine anime character friendship moments onscreen are real.
Kyo is a snake, how quickly you've all memoryholed daph39.

>>71113536
no thanks

>>71112376
KEK

>>71112314
Asmongold called him based on his double down about Korean plastic surgery

>>71113725
you will not have a say in this

>>71112417
Anon, vshojo is a clique in itself. Remember when they tried being a normal corpo and held auditions just to pretend it never happened and continue to only hire vshojo orbiters anyway?

>no shityu
>no dookie
LMAOOOOOOOOO

what has kyo done that's so fucking terrible and clique-y? I don't know much about niji but as a vshojo watcher I'd like to know because he's going to be either heavily collabing or joining. factual things he's said or actions he's taken, not rrats or hints

>>71113958
As far as I know it's mostly his association with Enna, which is enough for me since I didn't like the guy in the first place.

>>71112646
A lot of names you listed hang out with Rainhoe and she and other LIG streamers attended the recent Streamer Awards with Kyo. Guess he's a part of LIG-and-vshojo-friends now.

>>71112314
Cool, I'm not gonna watch anything with him in it anyway. For someone who prides himself in "banter" his game is pathetically weak
May he get ass cancer soon so he can stop being a blight on the VTubing scene

The nijifamily is back together. All we need to do now is wait for Pomu to finish her studies and debut in VShojo with Kyo

>>71113958
supported sayu doxing campaign

>>71113958
It's pretty much confirmed that he's the one who leaked Zaion's address and passport to the sisters. On top of that, immediately after Zaion's termination, he went on his PL and started liking a bunch of tweets trashing her, as well as making a few cloutchasing posts himself on her. After enna got mobbed for making a racist joke, he immediately went to his PL and started trashing her there too. Then when he got his own little cancellation for the north korea joke, he doubled and tripled down before pussying out, despite originally screaming at enna to apologize immediately.
He's a complete snake. An actual monster who only gives a shit about boosting his own clout.

>>71113958
I'm sure the schizos on /vt/ are better judges of character than all the large vtubers that personally know Kyo.

>>71114126
This but unironically

>>71114015
Some people just fail upwards
>>71114126
Liggers have an interest in keeping up the facade that everything is hunky dory and everyone gets along so they can continue milking their dumb followers

>>71112314
If Quinn is not a Vshojo before April, I’ll fucking cosplay as Uki and scream at my white grandparents and post the video here.
Him and Kuro are literally gonna be inseparable.

>>71113510
The world doesn't work according to your emotional spiels. He is pretty untouched by the doki drama, especially due to continuous yabs by the existing livers. He has friends in vtubing world who stand by him.

As for zaion, him liking tweets by SA victims does not amount to harassment, especially to normies. Hell, sayu herself only seemed upset at kotoka and finana backstabbing her and didn't seem to give a shit about Kyo.

>>71114212
Whatever you say, sister. I know I'm definitely going to stop supporting anybody who even looks at him without feeling instant disgust.

>>71113510
Sadly >>71114212, sometimes people dodge all the bullets. He is clean, he got out, and he can do whatever he likes.

>>71113958
Mocked Zaion's termination and was a piece of shit human being in general. But Uki hates him so in the end he's okay in my book.

>>71112417
>Implying a whore company would be that smart
They saw cancer and said "damn do I want a part of that!". There's zero chance they're not getting worse, despite how impossible that may sound.

>>71114172
True, you've got anons like this guy >>71114102
pulling things out of their own ass and claiming their rrats are pretty much confirmed.

>>71114297
>sister
Lol the dude is out of niji you colossal retard. I understand you are emotional about your lolibaba but the guy wasn't some grand villain in her arc but just a side piece.

>>71114013
this is kind of what I meant when I said I'm looking for actual shit he's done instead of who he's associated with, it's not entirely fair to avoid someone when you don't know if they actually did something nasty or not
>>71114087
>>71114102
this is more useful, thank you. disappointed about the tweets. couple questions though
how was it confirmed?
by north korea joke do you mean the one about plastic surgery (which I'd heard of) or something actually bad? that one was fucking stupid, I don't really blame him for apologizing though when now that we've seen the contract we know nijiEN talents are under a lot of pressure and may be unaware of the rights they have

>>71112734
Sister you re the one who forgot to take meds.

>>71114430
You can take the wigger out of Niji but you can't take the Niji out of the wigger

You guys unironically are underage. They don't talk shit about each because they're public people and have a functioning brain(most of the time), if not you can bet there would be shit flinging at all sides. Even le pure Iron Lung got poked by Silver Valley
Publicity is all about making you look like the good guy even if that isn't true, principally among women, they do that almost naturally

>>71114212
>As for zaion, him liking tweets by SA victims
could you go into this please? that other anon wasn't specific about this but it matters to me. I read about zaion and have listened to sayu talk about it but this was way before I started paying attention to anything nji

Once a Niji always a Niji. You'll never not be trash.

>>71114445
>it's not entirely fair to avoid someone when you don't know if they actually did something nasty or not
It's entirely fair to avoid someone if they choose to associate with someone you don't like. If you don't care about Enna then sure, but don't pretend like he's not in charge of who he's friends with.

>>71112314
>Kyo collabs
God I fucking hate that faggot.

He was in a big collab with a bunch of liggers a few days ago.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2084030432?t=04h39m36s

>>71114445
As far as I remember he liked some tweets lambasting sayu. I distinctly recall him commenting under a tweet by a SA victim who claimed that zaion gave her trauma and shiet.

Everything else, for sayu's case atleast, is pure schizo rambling. There's other confirmed stuff unrelated to zaion which doesn't put him in a favourable light.

>>71114102
Anyone who actually believes this is retarded. Kyo explained clear as day that he thought the tweet was referring to the Cyno VA being outed as a groomer. A fucking anon named Kyo doxxing Sayu doesn't mean it was actually Kyo, you retard. Kyo never trashed on Enna in his PL either

>>71112314
There's only one good person in this picture, so why don't you try and guess who it is?

>>71114547
It's the same gaggle of rubes who think it's only the Nijisanji management that's corrupt. Kyo will prove his antis right because the poison was already there before he even stepped foot onto the yacht.

>>71114574
I'm operating under people saying "enna and kyo were friends" with no other info, that's why I'm not crossing him out right away for it. how long, how recently? you don't have to answer but that's why I'm perceiving it differently from people who know niji better, I'm also a casual aethel watcher who's hard vouching for kyo and I respect aethel a lot, so it's a real mixed bag
>>71114664
gotcha, thanks

>>71114556
You know how zaion made that rape joke.? Basically I saw that there was someone who claimed to be SA victim and had ranted about zaion and Kyo agreed with her. He had also liked similar tweets.

Now even he did out of malice and not moralfaggotary you still can't bring it up as an example of harassment and 'past sin'. That's what I was trying to explain to the sayufag who wanted him drawn and quartered. But I guess he is too emotional.

>>71112516
No, it's what losers interpret as one.

>>71113785
He is wrong, Kyo is just a hypocrite considering how he attacks others for similar jokes.

>>71114830
I was treating your post as more of a general statement, but if you're talking about your opinion yeah that's fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2th8u38gUM

>>71114703
Wrong.

>>71114703
>>71114860
and this is why it's so fucking difficult to gather information to have an informed opinion on anything here, these are two completely opposing accounts on it and no one has given actual evidence or his own statement. thanks for replying but forget I asked, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt but be cautious

>the kicked out also have a clique

>>71112516
No, that's what we call FAMILY groups

>>71114664
Nah there was also the time he mocked her document drop on Hex's birthday stream. He mentioned a timestamp that was too close to the time she released her document to be a coincidence, then mentioned that it was a twitlonger linking to a Google doc, which also happened to be what she had set up

>>71112579
>>71113114
>>71113517
>>71113614
>>71114926
Look at all these friendless losers

>>71114830
They were basically joined at the hip since ILUNA release. Realistically, Enna's jokes and comments tended to become a lot more nasty after he debuted and they started hitting it off. He was definitely a bad influence on her. They fed off each other like some sort of weird malicious feedback loop. On top of this, Kyo was basically an opportunist in collabs. He kept calling himself a banter king or whatever, but he'd only attack anybody who was already being piled on viciously by other people. Meanwhile, as soon as anybody gave him any resistance he'd cry foul and run away. Early on, he had a collab with zaion and doppio and they bantered with him and he was so upset that he muted himself to trash them to his chat. The other two found out about it and made fun of him for it, and he ended the stream a bit later. He's really fragile and loves going below the belt when it comes to banter, too, and it doesn't seem like he understands the line between banter and actual hurtful shit.

>>71115058
Mouse is the obvious leader. If Rosemi ever leaves niji and resurfaces it WILL be vshojo considering how much they like each other.

>>71112571
or is it

>>71115040
He openly mocked Zaion's document.
https://youtu.be/IyynD83X-uI?t=408

>>71115137
He privated his side of that stream too.

I love Henya for doing wonders for Vshojo, but if Matara or Kuro try to bring Kyo into the company I’m fucking gone.
All this does is show too that maybe Selen really is better for not being part of their clique.

So glad she's not part of their shitty clique

>>71115137
I like to think that he cried a little afterward.

>>71115286
Even Doki is ignoring Sayu

>>71115210
Quoting to see if the Vshojo guy sees this one.

>>71115137
https://youtu.be/WpYb0nN-1DQ
Thin skinned wigger on full display

>>71113536
At some point in 2025

>>71115313
Understandable. The one won't let it go and the other one wants to move on. Their paths are very different.

>>71115313
That's fine, they barely knew each other. Sayu needs to move on.

>>71115313
It makes sense when you remember that they barely interacted even when they were in NijiEN to begin with.

>>71114645
Let's see how long he lasts in the indie sphere. Aethel will shut him down very quickly if he tries to pull any of his Niji shit and whoreclan will eat him alive.

>>71115137
>>71115210
>>71115229
Yikes what a piece of shit
Friendship schizos, THIS is your oshi?

>>71115180
Kek, Zhuge KongMillie would be kino

>>71114732
that raven guy?

>>71115266
Of course a Henya "excuse me who are u dayo" supporter would say something like this.

Reminder that Selen was the bully in Nijisanji and drove Mysta to graduate.

She told him she hopes he dies
https://youtu.be/E8Hnm3DgFzo?t=2333

She slept with his wife and rubbed it in his face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahdz73-P28g

She made fun of his size down there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NmB2BoH9E

She deceived him into doing something that he finds terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op0kGqhcZ88

She almost gave him a heart attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoYzmq7VSMY

Meanwhile Enna came up with a nice song for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ-diC770Ew

>>71112314
>sayu nowhere to be found
seriously, what the fuck did this bitch do to get shunned like this?

>>71115424
This. Doki is beating Nijisanji with success. Sayu is on a warpath. I'd prefer if she tried to move on and do the same as Doki but this is the path she wants to take, I suppose.

>>71115424
>>71115473
Yeah, the fact of the matter is that Niji did irreparable damage to Sayu's career for a whole year whereas Doki managed to come out stronger because Sayu basically raised awareness on how Niji will slander you on your way out but didn't benefit from it. In other words Sayu walked so Doki could run
Not surprised if Sayu secretly still wants Niji to burn, and it's hard to move on when Nijisisters constantly harass you and shit on you for no reason

>>71115533
JAN JAN A CHIKI CHIKI BAN BAN

>>71112314
>wasn't able to collab with
Does that mean that Nijisanji blocked his collabs?

>>71115596
Nothing, she was only there for two months, hardly enough time to make friends with these people

>>71115589
Considering Kuro followed Doki for a bit before having to unfollow, I’m sure he respects her a fair amount but probably can’t because either clique bullshit has started up again, or because there’s some legal clause in his contract.

>>71115596
Leaked Matara private shit on air, dumb of her but actions have consequences.

>>71115596
Menhera. Matara does not like her as well and Matara has a lot of pull and if you ever watched her she is the type of person to talk to everybody about how bad you are if she does not like you.

>>71115747
Yeah, you can definitely tell Nina's a nasty cunt

I really hope VShojo doesn't take fucking Kyo of all people. That guy is actual trash

>>71115424
>>71115473
>>71115504
Doki is soulless for disregarding Sayu. Just look at this post.

>>71115589
Oh wait you were serious? I saw you post this earlier and it was so funny I thought you were being satirical.
Yeah, no, this is an actual example of banter. Real banter where both sides have a side and work together for the sake of comedy. Mysta played the straight man in almost every duo except with Petra, where she still ended up looking "bullied." Mysta was wonderful at his job and it's hilarious you'd even bring him up in this at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrJxDRlaF0s

>>71115596
1. Pissed off Nina. Over a trivial shit but it doesn't matter. You don't piss off Queen #2.
2. Her (in my opinion) worst mistake was publicly supporting Doki in the Doki twitter comments. She should've anticipated that people will attack her (mostly with 'now you want it to make it about yourself' accusations) since she already has a large target on her back. Associating with her would be problematic for Doki so she had to ignore her. The best move would've been DMing her with bla-bla I'm really sorry you had to go through that, I didn't know this was happening, if you want any kind of support I'm always there for you blah-blah. But Sayu isn't just built for that, as she said, she's a 'Honest Bitch'.

>>71115821
At this point I just see Nijis and ex-Nijis as shitty people. There's a reason they stayed for so long despite the shitty working conditions
Sayu doesn't count because of her short tenure

>>71115712
sounds like niji has a blacklist it's very easy to accidentally get on if you say one thing wrong

>>71115313
Doki doesn’t want to touch anything niji or ex-niji. U-san is the sole exception and I have no idea why.

>>71115812
I hope they do. And all of Ethyria. And Ike and Vox. Turn it into what it was always meant to be. An e-celeb circlejerk.

No one leaves NijisanjiEN unscathed.

>>71112596
Thank fuck she’s not hanging out with that leech. Bro is legitimately unfunny

how fast are they going to run vshojo into the ground like they did nijiEN lmao, they have a headstart this time since most vshojo members are already controversial

>>71115900
Wasn't a mistake, she inclined a lot off the Doki drama. Making up with these shitters wouldn't be worth it, and they'd likely still ignore her regardless.

>>71115821
That's what I meant by "Sayu needs to move on". She should find friends that like her for who she is, not what she was a part of (and I'm glad that it seems like she is doing so).

>>71115904
Or just people. You know, no one is perfect. Not all victims of something become best friends. That doesn’t mean they hate each other.

>>71115933
She had good relations with U-san and U-san is a menhera of highest order but they mean well. They were NijiEN's first victim.

>>71115747
>>71115795
Sayu is definitely Menhera and her own worst enemy but Mata is definitely petty too.
I always chose to be indifferent to her but now I'm weary of her after she tried to guilt trip Nerd for not coming out drinking with her.

>>71112813
This aloucuck has no sense of humor that copy pasta is funny as fuck

>>71116021
Forming a Niji clique outside of Niji that is willing to exclude people they don't like for petty reasons is already a terrible look and I'm not gonna bother trying to find out if they're decent people

>>71115795
In hindsight, her leaking Ethyria’s clique while she was still in NijiEN could be as much a damning indictment for them as it could be for her. She probably wasn’t upset that they were making her time at the company difficult, she probably was upset that there was a power tripping group she wasn’t part of until the end.

>>71115821
Fuck off. Dragoons and sayufags aren't fighting. You've been trying to push this for weeks now and nobody's biting.
>>71115670
Basically. The sisters have been harassing her for an entire year at this point, including actually harassing her IRL after her address and passport got shared around all over twitter. For a while she was a complete mess and only really started making progress a few months ago... right before the Doki drama reopened all those old wounds again. She's honestly been doing great, and it's a bit of a surprise she leaked that silencing agreement at all, but honestly I'm glad she did that because it might help actually bring this piece of shit company down and finally bring her some closure.

>>71115870
You think I'm being serious?

>>71116015
Let’s be real, I think Sayu is pissed at Doki because she could have spoken sooner, she waited for it to happen to her. Sayu has been non stop yapping about Niji after that happened, clearly she was holding it all in because she had no ine to support her before.
Still, there is a difference between victims not bonding and perpetrators.

>>71112314
>quinn
I genuinely have never watched him long enough to form a full opinion on him. That voice makes me despise him. I'd rather rupture my eardrums than listen to him for a full stream
How do his "fans" tolerate that crap

>>71116138
This sounds like a Sayufag trying hard to push Sayu into Doki’s situation like herself did

>>71115821
Do people really buy into the happy Nijisanji family kayfabe even now? Sure some of them developed actual friendships from weathering the black company together, but many of them viewed each other as co-workers at best and don't want to pretend to be best friends with all the other ex-nijis just because they worked together at one point.

>>71116111
And that’s just your implication. They may be friendly with Quinn as he was gonna join. They may just respect Doki’s wish to not be dragged into what would be a stream full of questions for both.
She clearly wants to move on.

>>71115904
People are people. Pre-ILUNA, the company had a much better reputation on the outside. It was still a "big break" for a 2view, and by the time you got in, it was too late to leave without being in over your head in debt from your debut, etc. Meanwhile, poor people like Kunai ended up having smaller accounts than their PL with a worse fanbase and now they have to give most of their money to the managers who do nothing for them.

>>71116258
>Do people really buy into the happy Nijisanji family kayfabe even now?
I am in some generals that very much still believe the kayfabe.

>>71116138
Dragoons are hypocrites if they don't see any problem with Doki ignoring Sayu

>>71112314
IP ?

>>71116319
People were saying that Doki was ignoring RPR too, and look what happened.
In the end, Sayu is Sayu and Doki is Doki. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other other than that both of them got fucked over by Niji, and even then their circumstances and fallout are different. There's no reason to force them to interact if they don't want to, and Sayu has at least attempted to make it clear that she doesn't want to be lumped in with other people just because both of them got fucked over by the same company.

>>71115904
Sayu still hang up with dramafags after, she ain’t a fucking saint or martyr like every Sayufag does

>>71116319
>Person A: I want to move on.
>Person B: I can't just move on.
If A wants to move on but B doesn't think they themselves can move on, then naturally, A & B are not going to get along so it's better A just carries on with their own business.

>>71116066
Matara did not deserve being harassed by sisters for a year and constantly shit on. Reminder that they are allegedly forced to listen to negative feedback being read to them if it was sent through Anycolor site form. What happened to her is horrible and she is still traumatized. However the trend of trying to paint Matara as a good person is plain wrong. She was always a petty clout chaser that was not upset with the clique itself but the fact she was not part of it.

>>71116411
Because they were kind to her. It's simple

>>71116054
Thinking about it, maybe selen tried to help U-san when she was getting screwed by management before the graduation and then also after the graduation, and now U-san is trying to return the favor.
That makes much more sense.

>>71116470
>20 different vtubers are happy to collab with her
>she MUST collab with DN because
>uhhh
>because
>he... he... he... was kind to her!

Plot twist:
Sayu and Doki made the deal behind the scenes: Sayu tanks all the public damage, Doki feeds as many leaks as she can to LM and others through her.

>>71115373
This guy is straight up a pussy KEK

>>71116430
She's streamed around 50+ hours in the past week, of which she was raided by the lawyer and hounded for questions after the contract leak, talking about it for 5 minutes.
She's moved on, too, in her own way. She doesn't get emotional about it anymore, and only ever brings it up when it's directly relevant or as a response to direct questions, and she's making a lot of progress in her own self improvement since this point last year. We're very proud of her.

>>71112314
I don't know how people act like leaving redeems them in any way, they'll never be washed in the blood

>>71116464
I think that's what a lot of people forget. In the midst of all that happened, we forgot that Matara can be set off very quickly and easily. I agree that she didn't deserve what she got, but that's about where the sympathy stops.
I just fear and hope she doesn't end up becoming like the people that treated her badly. You never know with trauma.

captcha: GAYNOV

>>71116533
You sound obsessed lmao

The difference seems more about ex-nijis who stayed in the good graces corpocucks by scheduling their graduation (Kyo, Matara, Mysta, Pomu is there too) and those got pushed to a breaking point by niji and ended up being terminated on bad terms (Zaion, Selen). With Yugo being somewhere between, since they got terminated, but management didn't hate them enough to try the "kill them on the way out" strategy.
This makes me wonder whether dearsqn is going to ignore doki once she's active again due to those politics, would be pretty sad, their friendship seemed genuine.

>>71116533
Name 20 vtubers who actively said they'd collab with her pre-selen termination. Go ahead. I'll wait. As someone who actually stuck with her through it, I know you're full of shit.

>>71115373
After they raped him he muted his mic on Discord and seethed about them to his chat before nuking the vod
He said he was "all about the bantz" at debut btw

>>71116430
This, period.
Matara and Kuro are living a completely different life now and don't want to fuck around over something they goy over.
Doki wants to just go over and stay indie.
Sayu clearly was only waiting to be vindicated to drop all the bombs.

There is plenty of reasons for them to not see eye to eye and wanting to avoid being grouped together. Sayu likely wanted all of them to kick back with her, that's why that post.

>>71116666
>noooooooooo stop scrutinizing my whore
>nooooooooooooooooooooo

>>71116464
>Matara is… is… le bad for wanting to collab with coworkers in the past
>Sayu is a good person and she needs to collab with Doki and hop on the conversations about Doki because.. uhm… muh Nijidrama

>>71116548
More like doki has ptsd and doesn’t want to touch the topic and sayu wants to use this opportunity to clean her name. Sayu’s plan wasn’t perfect but it has some good results.

>>71115589
This thread is fucking infested with sisters, larping as vshojofags, lying about Kyo being clean, acting like 39daph, sayu doxx & harassment, Enna cancelling, and Korean plastic surgery never happened or are all easily explained away. Vshojo is it’s own clique and it’s on its way to destruction if they let this wigger faggot in. I pray to god they do.

>>71116528
I think U-San is just happy to collaborate with anyone who asks. They are very chill

>>71116718
Matara and Kuro didn't really have much to "get over" as opposed to having instant success serves to them on a silver platter. They would definitely have had a much harder path if they went indie

>>71116761
They will. Kuro will nepofag to no end to have someone to flesh around, and Matara will be the second vote.
The Mouse will say yes but they all know at the first fuck up they are getting dropped too.

>>71116258
Is the pic supposed to related to what you're saying about being co-workers at best? If so, Mata, Kamii, and Kuro traveled overseas and met up with notPomu and U-san IRL recently. And they're all still interacting with notKyo.

>>71116666
Quads of truth

>>71112314
he's a terrible, unfunny streamer, with a terrible voice and every model he's ever had has been gay and shitty. not even gay in the hot yaoi way, just gay. why does anyone watch him?!

>>71116258
Are you sure? Maybe another coordinated tweet about how much of a family they are will convince you.

>>71116693
You cannot be fucking serious. She collabed with DN during her subathon, which just on the week itself that included that doxing flip, there were already collabs with six other people in the same week. I don't understand this angle. What are you playing at? What are you even talking about? KYS.

>>71116921
Doesn't matter. Kuro will pump his /#/ by association since he will do flesh shit with him. All he needs is to not dig back old shit, which he will smartly not do.
He didn't even retwitt the video. His plan to become no one worked all along.

>>71116921
There is not a single current or ex niji talent that has any positive attributes, even the ones that got bullied out are a Chinese mediocre apex player, and some genshin drone

>>71116171
This is the only thing about Doki I don’t like. She kept quiet about Sayu getting absolutely slandered, abused, and shit on and ignores her even now when they both had incredibly similiar experiences with bullying in niji.

I don’t understand why anyone would want to let the clique get away with what they did. Once nijien fractures they’ll all just end up in vshojo or as ligers doing the same shit again and again.

>>71116314
You can just say /lazu+/, you know.

>>71116742
did I bring up collabs in my posts? Honeys were always insufferable and you are even worse as momos. Matara was and still is a cunt. Zaion is a retard and a menhera. Not much better but better than a cunt.

>>71113071
>And doki herself has said that she wants nothing to do with niji, ex liver or no.
she never said that and u-san is a fucking ex-niji dumbass

>>71117109
Finally you get it
No one cares about the retarded menhera. That’s it

>>71115180
>Wei
Undoubtedly Cover, they even fucked up a little in the beginning and almost lost it.
>Wu
With all the horseshit about "Family", having an early super charismatic young conqueror who's dead/a hasbeeb and its focus on faggy dudes Nijisanji is closer to this. Also has a leadership slowly driven insane and will be the first to fall.
>Shu Han
With the "friendship" retardation being spouted here and its ragtag assortment of streamers Vshojo fits this one better. Ironkongming stays on the chair. I can even see the "alliance" of convenience between VShojo and NijiEN that Shu Han and Wu had before they tried to absorb each other.
>Which leaves
>Jin
Someone is going to betray Yagoo from within and the entire Vtuber industry is going to get fucked.

I've seen many get one guy'd but I've never seen anyone get one collab'd as hard as >>71116995

>>71117109
Cuz for the same reason no one talked about everyone else there? Including those who left after?
There is so much falseflagging in this topic that is honestly unbeliavable. You guys used the same excuses on why no one is talking now to paint them good.
If the ex-Niji wanted to shit on each other, they would. There is no NDA to not shit on them.
Sayu said clearly she's sorry for what Doki had to go trough, but she also had to go trough the same. She never said anything bad about her, and boy she talks A LOT, so you can be sure if she had grudges they would be out in the air.

They don't want to be the "ex-Niji group", it would mark them for life of the very thing they don't want to think about anymore.

>>71116995
That's not 20. You claimed 20. Her list was extremely small and close knit, and of them, there were several "undesirables" like DN, false and parrot, who were basically the only people willing to reach out early on to help her tell her side of the story since they wouldn't be risking their careers to put it out there. It was a very desperate time for her, and emotionally she was a mess, as shown by her outbursts back then.

Kyo is the worst one they could've included postmortem. I really hoped Nina was better, no wonder she stuck around Enna and Elira for so long, Scarle is definitely brainwashed too. Even U-san, which paints a shade behind Doki.
Truly nobody who's interacted with them is trustworthy.

>>71117093
>genshin drone
Who? None of them have spammed Genshin

>>71115520
what is his "Niji shit" aethel would have to shutdown

>>71116761
Why are you responding to me with your word vomit? Are you retarded?

>>71117289
You're welcome to tabulate through her subathon yourself. Also fuck off she's not a victim.

>>71117248
Honestly very well though, but you forgot Jin is suppose to win and it's suppose to initially be enemy of Wei.

>>71117303
Nina literally still hangs out with Ethyria willingly. She is definitely still a cunt even if leaving Niji helped her image

>>71117372
>Sayu not a victim
Jesus the falseflagging is now on a fucking legendary level.

>>71115180
>Implying anykuro or vwhorejo are even on the same level as Cover

>>71117154
Was gonna keep it vague, but yes

>>71117234
Didn't she say that after the black screen stream? I maybe misremembering then.

>>71117256
You're welcome to never bring her up again outside of her general if you do not want to hear what a cunt she is.

>>71117429
What the faggotry is this? Proof?

>>71115589
2 fat people fighting each another LOL!

>>71115313
With how Sayu went about things that says more about Doki than Sayu.

>>71117303
My headcanon is Scarle being secretly 200IQ and undermining Niji wit her every 'unintentially' wrong step recently.

>>71117093
I wouldn't go that far, there are some that are fun to watch. But this wigger was not one of them.

>>71117372
>harassed for an entire year
>had her fucking address and passport leaked
>still gets harassed to this fucking day any time she says anything on social media
>not a victim
fuck off you obsessed monkey. She's moving on. Her career is going great now, and she's in a much healthier place emotionally despite you sisters and your bullshit harassment campaigns.

>>71117513
>*unintentionally

>>71114212
>and didn't seem to give a shit about Kyo.
She gave a like to a message that literally said "fuck kyo"

>>71117436
Get bent. Why should I buy into your narrative? Understand this, you're all parasites. Your oshi is a parasite. Doki is a parasite. Everyone in the OP and NijiEN are parasites. That's how they all gathered in that place to begin with, because they had an affinity to be shit people.

>>71114212
>Hell, sayu herself only seemed upset at kotoka and finana backstabbing her and didn't seem to give a shit about Kyo.

>>71112314
I think it's nice that I literally don't know who this rando is
Ignorance is bliss

>>71117453
There's no point in keeping it vague when it's obvious by process of elimination (there's only maybe 3 EN splits and only one that is about a wave). Also you (yes you, anon) are reasonably recognizable between threads, and it's not the first time you mention this topic, though not with those words.

>>71117485
This happened after she graduated. Won't be surprised they still hang out someitmes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZBmeDh0TnI

>>71117346
In Niji if Kyo was snarky or annoying or straight up being a jerk to somebody they had to take it because they have an image to uphold and don't want to be stealth suspended. Everybody loves everybody in NijiEN after all until they don't. If he pulls that shit in an indie sphere they will call him out or ostrazise him. Showing dms if it was in private too. Remember Bunny? It took one wrong comment for her vtubing career to be over and all her past bad relations to get aired out.

>>71117109
She probably kept quiet for the same reason everybody else in NijiEN did. Most don't want to risk their livelihood.
That being said, I wonder how much Doki actually knew regarding the Sayu situation. She appears to have been pretty isolated within NijiEN. She apparently wasn't in the unofficial discord server most of the livers actually used.

>>71117633
And yet, it doesn't make what I say any less true. But if you'd like to prove me wrong, the floor is yours.

>>71117547
>still gets harassed
Everyone forgot about her lmao

>>71117547
>friends with a flip that finds actual physical abuse funny and enjoyable to watch
>Sayu is totally a victim
Tell you what, just publicly disown him. Do it. If Pippa of all people can find the moral clarity to distance herself from him, why can't Sayu?

>>71116171
She doesn't hate Doki, but maybe she is bit passed that people didn't believe her a year earlier:
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu/v/2083020608?sr=a&t=7498s

>>71117614
NTA you're right but I do think she can be a victim while still being a reprehensible gacha slave

>>71116464
>30+ year old woman getting traumatized by internet comments
I knew she was a retarded bitch but this is just hilarious. /vsj+/fags your response?

>>71117824
>Deflecting on someone else just because collabs.
Ok I'm out, this topic has become falseflag shitstorm, we can archieve it.

>>71117172
So what did she do as Matara that's so terrible?
I wait.

>>71117372
>Harassed and doxxed for a whole year
>Ostracized by most vtubers as a result of Niji slander
>Not a victim
Hi Vox, fancy seeing you here!

>>71116677
>their friendship seemed genuine.
There are no genuine friendships in vtubing.

>>71117629
You sweet summer anon, I envy you.

>>71117901
They still haven't updated their hitlists and think Sayu's a gacha spammer.

>>71116464
Petty clout chaser sums up Mata pretty well. I hope she gets the rest of Ethyria into VS.

>>71112314
This was inevitable since he is friends with Aethel. This dude is a fucking snake, Vshojobros.

>>71117485

>>71117884
>30+ year old woman getting traumatized by internet comments
What is a Sayu

>>71117473
I will bring her up outside of her general so you will seethe

>>71112314
Ex-Niji General /ENG/ sounds like something we are going to need sooner rather than later.

>>71118035
Mata no…..

>>71117918
kek did you single out "as Matara" because people can instantly bring up tons of instances where she was a piece of shit as notMatara? I am sure she changed as a person in those..... 6 months.

>>71117826
Sayu is a piece of trash, there's a reason none of the ex-nijis interact with her.

>>71117588
Deserved, Kyo is a little wigger bitch
>>71118163
So true sis! #cut4hex

>>71117109
Well, either way Sayu doesn't want to be associated and clumped together with Doki because of what happened recently
>>71117826

>>71118115
I'm sorry anon...

>>71117918
>>71118035
>still hangs out with harassers
I don't know chief kind of cunty

>>71118226
>no argument
I accept your concession sayucuck

>>71112314
Holy shit, it's bricky's waifu

>>71118035
And before retards claim this was ages ago: the tweets are from Jan 16.

>>71118142
I don't watch Nijisanji, nor do I care about old drama. And yes, people can change in a better work environment.
>Matara was and still is a cunt
Prove she's a cunt as Matara.
Or do you have nothing?

>>71118299
That happened before it was revealed that Selen got bullied.

>>71116677
People really give Pomu a free pass just because she was a good streamer, but so far she's been pretty shady since her graduation

>>71118317
I'm done looping with you NDFsis, you've shown time and time again to be unable to realize you're wrong

>>71118363
She was tight with Enna and Millie, she definitely knew Selen was getting bullied

>>71118370
>shady

She's acting like an adult, doing her own thing, and graciously accepted over 100K people to share her life on her personal twitter account knowing that a lot of people still care about her.

>>71118459
>she definitely knew Selen was getting bullied
Proof?

>>71112790
>Enna is also a bird
Et tu, Kyotas...

>>71116171
You have to realize that Selen distanced herself from most in NijiEN, we know she and fulgur aren't even in the casual discord that Elira ran (that's where most of NijiEN's off stream interactions are at). It's more likely that she has no idea what happened with the Zaion situation back then

>>71118390
SAYUSEETHE

>>71118468
Plus since she lives in Japan she's subject to their absurd defamation laws, which regardless of anything she's 100% in the right to avoid.

>>71118515
You really don't think Enna and Millie would shit talk people they dislike while Nina was around?

>>71118370
Shady about what? Going to school in Japan and attending chika idol concerts? Or having sex with a fellow MGS fangirl?

Ah. It's the hourly ndf vs whoever answers battle time. I'm out, you guys have a good one.

Also, like ot or not Kyo will thrive with ligs, they like him at least on the outside.

>>71118515
>>71118629
They did it on stream even

>>71112314
hopefully they only collab once and never again
>collab once
probably a ex-niji move to clear allegations(or probably will create more)

>>71118566
>Falseflagging with Doki pic
Ok lmao

>>71118317
>>71118163
>none of the ex-nijis interact with her
This is not a bad thing, every single person who's interacted with a(n ex-)niji will not be let in the pearly gates, and supporting them only confirms your third world origins

>>71113927
Doki is collabing with Holo and bigger indies than vshitjo I don't think she gives a shit about ex-coworkers who never tried to help her

>>71118626
She's there on a temporary visa but yeah I wouldn't put it past Niji to try and fuck with her and get the visa reneged if she made anything other than the most milquetoast of comments

>>71118710
Sayu only interacts with dramafags lmao
Noone else in the entirety of the vtubing community wants to be near her

>>71118035
Also this
https://youtu.be/wyre74wqY-I

>>71118776
>Noone else in the entirety of the vtubing community wants to be near her
nor should they, she is an ex-niji member

>>71118459
>>71118629
>>71118693
don't bother. It is either a vsj-shill or an ex-honey pretending to be a vsj-shill. Not sure what is worse. Mata is a holy grail to them.

>>71117462
ex-niji status expires in 6 months if anything as per leaked contract which is the period before you can perform vtubing

>>71118776
Das craaaaazy

>>71118696
They try their hardest but it isn’t good enough

>>71118629
I don't know what they talk about in private.
You need the evidence that she knew how bad the bullying was after leaving Nijisanji and before meeting up with Enna or Millie, which she didn't do since Selen got terminated.

>>71118776
without those dramatubers this board wont have anything to talk about outisde being horny to pngs

>>71118696
Sisters are arguing in bad-faith ignoring all the evidence and playing both sides to fan the flames. Seems like something must have hit a nerve, they are here in doves.

>>71118515
Nina mentioned in her graduation stream when Selen was on that Selen had left the Discord for the sake of her own "mental health" and "work health".

>>71117588
That was after he publicly supported her harassment.

>>71117625
She’s right, he shouldn’t have tried to join in her harassment using his other account as if people wouldn’t find out.

>>71118957
They're the plague of locusts of the vtubing community

>>71115210
They will never be held accountable for this, but I am just glad their whole play fell off, and no one besides the delusional sisters will be on their side. I bet they are mad seeing how much better Sayu is doing now

once a niji always a niji

>>71118950
Nature will heal when we go back to just being horny for pngs

This fag was always a snake, but I can't help but think that he's in fact the mark. He's a retarded zoomer, a doormat, 0 life experience, falls in line with the white guilt ideology of obeying non-whites, and has a lot of fujo money & disability welfare checks. Persuade him with a little pussy and he'd dump his wallet on the ground. Just look at Shu and Elira for that same dynamic.
Those recent trips he took with daph39 and her friends, riding in a limo, and curiously the guy to girl ratio is skewed towards the latter with all the guys being ugly. Wonder who paid for all that? You anons think a white hatting chink like daph wouldn't prey off this little white boy's naivety?

>>71115821
Yeah, Sayu was pretty hopeful when the whole thing happened, but she realized collabing with someone that you have no relationship built at all besides being part of a shitty company is not a right idea. Maybe Doppio if he ever leaves

>>71118963
The work discord or the "other" discord?

>>71117588
>>71117625
OK maybe I didn't state it properly. My point is kyo would not be first person people in the vtubing community would crow about when it comes to harming zaion. Even this only states that her disdain for him is more akin to an annoying pest that doesn't harm too much.

And my other point stands. Normies are still not gonna shit on him for it because at the end of the day he was showing 'solidarity' with SA victims. She doesn't have the ironclad goodwill doki does and people will still see some of her actions as 'problematic' even after being vindicated

I think the one takeaway we have to take is that every single nijiEN, wether active or after leaving, is not to be trusted.

I thought Nina wasn't one of the bullies? Why is she hanging out with someone that was part of the clique?

>>71119622
Yeah, I'm a bit confused. I thought she felt ostracized from the rest of her gen. Then again, I haven't kept up with Niji for a long time until the Selen shit.

I love my Vshojo family!

>>71119461
The lone wolves are fine. The ones forming cliques are no good.
>>71119622
She later became friends with them, basically switched teams

let me get this straight
>Gaslighting (lying once to) Finana
>Deleting lots of VoDs
>being a shotacon
>Dee's Nuts
>mentioning Pokemon romhacks
>a rape joke
>being sick of Niji's shit after a month
is enough to get you shit on and publicly condemned by everyone who has ever worked with or within Niji

but shit like
>constantly bickering with management (to the point she went so far one of her friends said WOAH THAT'S FUCKED UP
>lying about graduating (to the point Vox wanted to graduate with her in solidarity)
>calling honest criticism "bullying"
>being unable to wait two more days to upload a cover
>lying to people internally about being terminated

is met with "she dindu nuffin wrong" and vocal support from the same people who trashed Sayu? Yeah I'd be pissed too

>>71119265
The work Discord is apparently a ghost town so that can't be it, but there's more than just one Discord server outside that one. I assume it's the main "other" one she was talking about, though depending on how long they'd known of Yugo's situation and how long XSOLEIL had been known internally it MIGHT have been the new server they migrated to after Yugo's "termination".

>>71119940
It all comes down to clout. Sayu didn't have it. She's done well to ride the recent anti-niji sentiment though.

>>71112516
To this day I don’t understand how is this the buzzword. Friend groups exists even in shitty environments, even singular friends too. And if this supposed clique exists, why the fuck would Mysta, Nina, Pomu and fucking Kyo left the company, and all of them have talked badly about the company, if all of them are friends with someone idk “sleeping with Riku”, shouldn’t them be the last to leave the company?

>>71119979
I remember reading that Pomu and Selen had their own discord to talk to each other but I don't know if that's true

>>71119622
Faggots here claiming she isnt, are vshojofags are denial. They're literal saviorfags who think they rescued the innocent Nina from the claws of kurosanji but they don't understand that she's a Trojan horse for the rest of the clique.

>>71113536
They're all really their own clique, and just like AnyColor, now that they fucked up they won't hesitate to pin all the blame on Elira and leave her to the dogs as the squirm away and just put someone now at charge (who's just the new standby scapegoat).
If Elira recovers, sweet, we can still leech of her; and if she crumbles under the pressure from both sides and commits, they'll just laugh at her because she couldn't take "a bit of banter" while they go back to their own thing as normal, as if she was never there.

>>71112314
Who is Raven?

>>71120218
Nice fantasy story, Vshojo anti.

>>71116314
>>71117154
>>71117453
You're not alone anon

>>71120082
Because they're toxic and delusional, they're sure all the problems arise from Niji's bad management but will completely disregard all the harm they as "livers" have done, we're not rotten to the core, it's all the evil corporation guys. If they all move to a new corpo they'll just proceed to do it all over again.

>>71120218

>>71113514
I for one was never interested in the roach to begin with. Even when she was Nina.

>>71120579
Just waiting out the reincarnation at this point

>>71120218
Why would hoomen say this?

>>71116099
It's funny, but not for the same reasons you think it is.

>>71115126
Quit using Korone for your shitposts, loser

>>71112314
Wait where the fuck is the IPs counter ? How am I going to spot the samefagging now ?

>>71115533
>Kek, Zhuge KongMillie would be kino
No.

Ya Boy Kongming would blow that shitty flip's cover and expose her in front of everyone.

>>71120579
>>71120756
I'm still totally delusional. It's the only thing keeping me from taking a long walk off a short pier.

HOLOSEETHE

>>71115747
I'm starting to think Matara is no better than Elira with how manipulative she seems to be.

>ESLs don't even know what clique means
hilarious

>>71119940
The people who love doki and hate sayu are dramafags. That's why they love her so much, the way she went about everything was like a high-school girl drama and sayu acted like an adult. Mostly indies really since they love drama.

>>71120571
>Vshojo anti
Normal person, yes.

>>71121200
Do it the old fashioned way, look at the context of the posts and think "why is this faggot posting this?"

>>71120900
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike.

>>71115930
based.

>>71115930
I will always support blacklisting indies. Even if it's anykuro doing it.

>>71121054
Quit being a fag

>>71121747

Sisters ITT
>falsflagging as dragoons to shit on Sayu
>falseflagging as sayujin to shit on Doki

>>71121399
Please don't.

>>71120376
This kind of schizo would've been laughed at 2 months ago but shit just keeps getting proven

>>71119940
Obvious nijisister bait

>>71119940
You don't know the half of it, NDF scum.

>>71122845
>>71121928
Nuke yourself, retarded Ennacuck

>>71119940
SAYUSEETHE

>>71120756
It's a long path to the light at the end of the tunnel but it's worth it when you get there
>>71121399
Some days I feel the same. Even so, it isn't the end of the world. Remember to take care of yourself anon. While some relationships aren't what they turned out to be, there are still many people out there who do what they do because they genuinely care about you. Please, give yourself a break. Treat yourself for the day.

>>71115741
This, he wouldn't have followed her in the first place if he's against her, also he tweeted subtle jabs at niji the day the termination notice went up. They're probably waiting to let this all settle down

>>71115180
Who's Lu Bu and Cao Cao?

>>71116171
I think I saw a clip of sayu recently saying that selen was kind to her during her time at niji