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Days are filled, Nijisanji will not back down

>> No.71058880

>>71058798
Enna pushed Zeta down the stairs as well... #ChuubaWars

>> No.71059020

>>71058798
Poor Petra, she has zero hopes. As for the other thing, I have no idea what they are trying to pull, but their "all hands on deck" now makes sense. However I don't think it will work much.

>> No.71059108

>>71058798
yeah with their dwindling fanbase going against hololive is the best thing they can think of.
this is what happens when you hire college interns with minimum wage in management position.
seems kurosanji is begging to reach finana numbers.

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>>71058798
If that's what they want, then they (Nijisanji) shall feel the full POWER of Hololive and they (Nijisanji) shall be utterly annihilated on that day. No mercy for the Nijilosers.


Hololive. Grows. Stronger.

>> No.71059166
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dookiebird not being in any part of this and sitting at home watching nijisanji thriving.

>> No.71059191

>>71058798
Petra was sent to fucking die, jesas.

>> No.71059262

>>71059166
>Literally beat all of this solo the 2 times you guys pulled it.
>Full Obsydia 3D with song could have actually stole the preshow.

Oh, she is gonna be there with the popcorns for sure.

>> No.71059325

>>71059166
>sitting at home watching nijisanji thriving.
She's a holofan. If anything she's gonna be watching Fes.

>> No.71059352

When Petra underperforms, do you think niji lawyers will force her to write down all her flaws and make her recite it all in front of a board room full of business people?

>> No.71059411

>>71058798
I will be watching Petra butt and the Holofes.
I do not care about the Niji main event.

>> No.71059419

>>71058798
Wow, thankfully we have people like you and /#/ fighting the good fight. I couldn't imagine what would happen without you

>> No.71059487

>>71059191
Rrat
Her punishment for not joining the slander, also making that vague doomposting about her being stupid and not being able to do anything. Wosemi already got stealth suspended.

>> No.71059514

>>71058798
This is basically building an argument for the earnings call to say "Q1 will be fine, look at all the events!" I guarantee you there will be more 3D stuff announced happening before end of the month.

>> No.71059639

>>71059352
I hate how possible this scenario can be thanks to Kurosanji.

>> No.71059785

>>71059352
God fuckin nips, why is it her fault you pit her against Holofes? Arghhh I wanna strangle those suits starting with RikukO8RW

>> No.71059867

>>71059487
>Wosemi already got stealth suspended.
Rosemi is getting the fuck out, so more probably they don't want to put her on a pedestal only for it to fall on her.

Petra...she's getting so set up these weeks. I feel they are making sure all these badly going offcollab are always centered around her or millie.

>> No.71059942

>>71058798
Poor Petra. They sent her out to fight an army on her own.

>> No.71060142

>>71059942
My only rrat is that both are already on the leave. They are setting Rosemi and Petra up to not look successful while hitting all the bucket list object to make them happy.

I sincerely hope so. Yes, they get rid of Obsydia once and for all and Ethyria steps one gen up, but those two can PL and be free to do whatever they want.
Then Doki will do chibi 3Ds of them again and dance on the Yacht's remains.

>> No.71060160

>>71059325
>If anything she's gonna be watching Fes.
Reminder that Pomu directly said she'll be watching HoloFes over Petra's 3D debut.

>> No.71060199

>>71058798
Nijisanji is basically what the indies in wrestling do during Wrestlemania.
They go out and do stuff on the days Wrestlemania because at the very least they maybe can get audiences looking their way for a while. While the main event (Hololive) is starting.
It's seriously not a bad strategy. Problem is all the stuff that has happened prior to it.

>> No.71060307

>>71060199
Or better say problem is they are suppose to be the WCW, not some indie shit.
>>71060160
She did? I am sure she just spoke of Holofes, no way she threw a jab like that to Petra. If she did, they are really presenting her butt to be fucked by the entire Holofes.

>> No.71060374

Wouldn't call it a war, we all know whats gonna happen, Niji really need some better decision making, who in the right mind would go pick a fight at their weakest? could've just pick a different date ffs.

>> No.71060528

>>71060374
I mean, that whole event they are doing is fine, they have to pull something, they can get some dregs. What is baffling is Petra, it's not even an attempt.
They didn't even put them together, and even that wouldn't have been enough.

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>>71059352
Imagine Petra being yelled by a group of oldmen for hours.

>> No.71060648

>>71058798
Good luck. (botting doesn't count)

>> No.71060703

>>71058798
There’s only like 5 relevant people in that proseka tournament, is that really the best they could muster?

>> No.71060853

>>71060703
I was about to comment on that. It's all the C team and D team of Nijisanji with two or three B team members.

>> No.71060925

>>71058798
Ah the classic
>our direct competitor is doing something
>so we need to do something as well
>even if what we do is fucking pathetic by comparison
move. Japanese corpos love to do this shit cuz "muh face" without realizing they're just humiliating themselves by drawing a direct comparison that needn't be drawn.

>> No.71060948

>>71060160
that's fucked since Petra worked on Pomu's 3D debut

>> No.71060970

>>71058798
Is there any online stream option for HoloFES 5? Even a paid stream would do.

>> No.71061026

>>71060970
Yes

>> No.71061132

>>71059352
If it already happened to Shiina, there's nothing stopping it from happening to Petra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADjz9U9nCGA

>> No.71061144

>>71060307
They're the WCW alright, around the time it was falling apart and putting Sting in a feud with Vampiro.

>> No.71061184

>>71060853
>C and D team
>No Finana
Feesh is so irrelevant she fell off the D team damn, I kinda feel bad for her

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>>71059147

>> No.71061231

>>71061184
Man, if only she had some parasocial FUCKS that cared about her.

>> No.71061257

>>71060160
>>71060948
Petra's 3D is an hour before HoloFes. Since she's not going to HoloFes in person, she can easily watch both.

>> No.71061283

>>71059166
You are too lmao

>> No.71061304

>>71058798
This is after the investor's meeting right?

>> No.71061341

>>71061257
Pomu said she wanted to attend in person, and with all the lines, traveling, waiting, and communicating that's over an hour of occupied time. She was never going to watch Petra's 3D.
Who can blame her? I'd rather wait in line or on the trains for over an hour than watch Petra.

>> No.71061356

>>71060970
SPWN: https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/24031602-enghololive5thfes
ePlus: https://ib.eplus.jp/hololive5thfes-st

>> No.71061408

>>71061304
A day or two after the investor meeting

>> No.71061437

>>71061341
She said she didn't win the ticket lottery so she wouldn't be able to go in person anyway.
Also, this was all before they announced the date for Petra's 3D.

>> No.71061491

>>71060160
>>71060307
>>71060948
She made no mention of Niji/Petra. Just said she'd watch HoloFES.

>> No.71061691

the rational explanation is that they plan on getting holofans who like the streamers but don't like the idol content. I don't know if that's the actual reason but that's what I'd tell my boss if I had made this decision.
I don't think a 3d debut or big crossbranch collab will bring those fans either

>> No.71061727

>>71061356
Nice, thanks.

>> No.71061904

Hololive is gonna show NijiEN how to bully properly

>> No.71062115

>>71058798
Basic business shit, they have to at least pretend to put something up against their competitor at least until they're done with their big shareholder meeting.

>> No.71062149
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>>71058798
Kurosanji does not stand a ghost of a chance.

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>>71061904
BULLYING THE BULLIES!

>> No.71062409

>>71059867
>Petra...she's getting so set up these weeks
They already bulldozed Elira's reputation, I don't think they can afford to fuck up Petra's too.

>> No.71062428

>>71061132
Wtf

>> No.71062475

>>71061132
bruh

>> No.71062542

>>71059352
correction meeting

>> No.71062556

>All out war but one side of the war is Lichtenstein

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>>71058798

>> No.71062651

>>71062409
>I don't think they can afford to fuck up Petra's too.
what reputation?
People outside of Nijisanji don't care about her because she doesn't do anything, JP don't care about her since Meloco and Kotoka went into overdrive with JP pandering, and nijisisters hate her because she's pro-Hong Kong,

>> No.71062800

>>71062409
I have no expectations for that shady black corpo.

>> No.71062867

>>71062651
The one she has inside Nijisanji. Sisters aside, there are still fans who will support their oshi, even if they're displeased with the company (especially for the female talnets) and Anycolor can't afford to bleed anymore.

>> No.71063168

>>71061491
Yes, and guess whose 3D debut is in the same time slot as the opening of Holofes. Guess whose 3D debut not-Pomu isn't going to watch because she'll be too busy watching Holofes.
Guess whose 3D debut is gonna get mogged by holofes like no stream had ever been mogged before.
And guess who's gonna get bonked by management for being on the business end of that mogging.

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>>71061132
This lines up with what the JP artist said about Anycolor forcing her to write down her flaws as well as verbally abusing her. They haven't changed at all since those days.

>> No.71063427

>>71059166
Here it is, Doki mentioned out of nowhere. Nothing to do with OP. She's living rent free while Niji crumbles at their financial meet.

>> No.71063525

>>71063427
Posts that contain an Enna image and a Doki reference are usually the Ennaschizo guy. Not that you're wrong though

>> No.71063711

Even though Nijisanji Spring 2024 seems to be a sponsored event by Project Sekai, it seems like a horrific idea to release it side-by-side on the day of HoloFES while not even including more heavy hitters.

>> No.71063782

>>71063216
I am confused, was the JP artist talking about Unicreate or AnyColor?

>> No.71063959

>>71063711
Wouldn't Project Sekai be pissed at their event having to compete with HoloFES for no reason?

>> No.71064121

>>71063959
Sponsored shit like this goes through the sponsor's hands so they knew about the date before hand. Anycolor probably gave them some bullshit answer about their demographics

>> No.71064294

>>71063782
Looks like AnyColor, since she mentioned about the company in question having stock and Unicreate is not part of the stock market

>> No.71064305

>>71063959
Who knows if Sekai had an exact date in mind or if Anycolor was the one who chose it. Either way, its a bizarre idea.

>>71063782
IIRC it was Unicreate originally, but they seemed to have a working relationship with Anycolor. Uni told AC about a bunch of bullshit, AC believed them, AC's lawyers jumped the gun, and then the controversy became public.

>> No.71064313

>>71063216
>>71063782(me)
nvm, it seems she worked for both the companies, and the apology thing was with AnyColor.

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>>71058798
>Petra 3D debut
??? isn't she the penguin girl that's been around since forever now? how is she only having a 3D model now?

>> No.71064773

>>71061491
She doesn't say anything about Niji. She probably signed the silencing contract.

>> No.71064950

I can't wait for the numbers.

>> No.71065002

>>71064392
So in 2023 Nijisanji decided that they would focus all their assets and resources into their latest all male JP wave, Voltaction, into the next Chronoir, their popular Kuzuha and Kanae group.
This included letting Voltaction skip ahead of everybody else in the company waiting for 3D, giving the group an all access pass to the 3D studio including allowing them to do guerilla 3D streams and endurance 3D streams which shouldn't be possible because normally you have to schedule ahead to use the studio for a specific time duration, forced them into various programs, and basically fucked over the entire company to push this group.
And it did nothing. Voltaction is still exactly where they were at before in terms of popularity before the big push. They sacrificed the entire company in 2023 and got nothing out of it.

>> No.71065192

>>71064773
Contract or not anon it's just generally bad practice to talk about former employers. Silence speaks volumes all the same.

>> No.71065247

>>71058798
Well that's just going to be embarrassing.

>> No.71065425

>>71064773
They can be vague about it if they so choose. Kuro, Matara, and Mika have all done so and Kuro and Mika have done it while being in Japan.

>> No.71065546

>>71065002
What exactly did Anycolor even see in Voltaction to push them so hard? They pushed them thinking they were going to be the next Chonoir like you said, or even Luxiem.

>> No.71065679

>>71065546
I bet somebody behind the scenes panicked over the fact that they don't have a contingency if either Kanae or Kuzuha ditched the company.

>> No.71065881

>>71063168
Petra's 3D debut is an hour before HoloFes. She isn't going to HoloFes in person, but rather will be watching it online. She can watch both with no issue.

>> No.71066230

>>71065546
Shikinagi Akira is a fudansji, isn't he? maybe they thought he'd appeal to the fujo audience

>> No.71066292

>>71066230 (me)
*fudanshi

>> No.71066683

>>71058798
its called counterprogramming you stupid twat. Did theaters only show avatar because it was the most popular thing? No. The show goes on, you just keep doing what you're doing and dont worry about what the competition.

>> No.71066986

>>71060142
>Yes, they get rid of Obsydia once and for all
Sounds like the practice of annihilating an entire clan in feudal Asian times.

At this point, if you truly support an organ, you'd want them to GTFO. Hope it's true.

>> No.71067429

>>71061304
>>71061408
>after the investor's meeting
So they have free rein to hype it up during the meeting as viable counter-programming to Hololive, claim it demonstrates their commitment to supporting the organs, etc. to naive investors.

>> No.71067451

>>71066683
Everyone knows it's counterprogramming you fuck. What people are saying is that if you're supposedly the biggest Vtuber corpo, if you're going to counterprogram then do it in a way that actually looks competent.
The programs they chose to counterprogram Holofes are abysmal.

>> No.71067792

>>71067451
what else do they possibly have? nothing. a big collab and 3d debut is all they can do at this point, what do you want?

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So, they finally released the date of Petra's 3D and subsequent graduation. Poor backstabbing penguin... Being the sacrificial lamb to save a spec of face for the black corpo.

>> No.71068145

>>71067792
They had months to a year to counterprogram and this is what they got. Stop defending ineptness.

>> No.71068387

>>71058798
Feels like all out war out here

>> No.71068405

>>71067792
Do a Crab Game collab where losers are instantly graduated. I'd watch that over Holofes honestly.

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>>71067996
>subsequent graduation
She has 18 more months on her contract, which she will gladly renew.

>> No.71068606

>>71068483
That contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on. They should auction it for charity.

>> No.71068902

>>71068483
No she will not after this humiliation. The only reason she would accept this is if she's graduating and not giving a fuck of how many views she gets. Otherwise I feel really sorry for her.

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>>71068606
The contract is worth what she believes is worth. Lawyers shouting loudly and acting aggressively makes her think it's worth a lot.
>>71068902
The main reason she is accepting this is because she loves her nijifamily and her job.

>> No.71069974

When that artist said they sat her in the meeting room and they would just make her list out all her flaws before hurling insults at her for a few hours I began to realize that the people running niji are plainly vindictive. They clearly hate everything else that isn't them. It's psychotic behaviour.
When you understand the people running niji are probably tazumi's college friends who are basically rich angry faggots them attempting to compete with the biggest vtuber event of the year makes sense. It's completely fuelled by jealousy and hate.

>> No.71070461

>>71069974
If anything it has a weird cult-like mentality where they mentally tear each other down in order to rebuild them in some new perverted mindset, and this is just what they've done to some random artist who isn't even part of the company. It's probably worse for people inside the branch, nevermind other artists who worked with them over the years.

>> No.71070826

>>71069974
Remember the Stanford Prison experiment? The company has no one to actually hold the reigns, so some seniors perceive themselves as the ones in power and therefore they have the right to abuse the lower class.

>> No.71070898

>>71070461
>weird cult-like mentality
More like a well oil exploitation machines. Japan has a reputation for black companies and I'm sure they've developed some robust (if inhumane) techniques.

>> No.71071054

>>71070461
This is generally what happens when rich young people get large amounts of power very quickly. They demand people respect them because they have a fancy title/lawyers badge etc. It's wanting recognition without work and it's pretty rife amongst the rich young japanese.

>> No.71071087

>>71067792
It's not like Holofes is a new thing. It didn't fall out of the sky and land land on Cover's lap. Planning for next years event has already started in earnest most likely. What has Anycolor been doing? They have luckswing and 3d that's going to be annihilated. Jesus fucking Christ if Niji wants to compete then fucking compete. This is like sending 5 toddlers to play basketball against an NBA team. Pathetic.

>> No.71071505

>>71071087
>Jesus fucking Christ if Niji wants to compete then fucking compete.
I don't think it's possible to convince the investors to drastically increase reinvestment in the company. Which is why I don't believe things will improve much, even if Riku leaves.

>> No.71072120

>>71059166
Enna gonna cancel another stream again! Dam brat!

>> No.71073216

Current time is 8.40 am Monday JST. What time does the Nikkei open?

>> No.71073353

>>71073216
about 20mins

>> No.71073714

>>71064773
Pretty sure she signed the gag order. She hasn't mentioned Niji for good or bad throughout the whole controversy.
But it was probably combined with agreements to leave her channel up and staying ahead of queue, etc.

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>>71071087
Or intentional.
They're looking for an excuse to shut down Niji EN that officially doesn't have anything to do with how badly management shat the bed in handling Selen's termination, or all the other dirty laundry that was exposed by the falling dominoes. They want to show the shareholders that their reason for shutting down Niji EN is not related to how they let Uki and Luca flagrantly break the written rules while firing Sayu for a Deez Nuts joke and firing Doki for making an HR complaint, or the fan backlash from the same. That's why they're setting Petra up for failure.

>"Oh no! One of our midcard talents was unable to beat our main competitor's flagship event! Anyway, now we have to shut down her branch, and fire her and a dozen other talents."

Like that.

>> No.71074121

>>71073353
In this case I can predict it maybe going okay. Maybe up to 3400 yen if the investors haven't caught wind yet of the new scandal involving the artist and Anycolor's lawyer jumping the gun without Riku's approval, maybe if they only see good news and the liquidity of the stocks still goes well.
If the controversy has started to make waves though or investors are getting antsy prior to the financial report releasing though, they're fucked.

>> No.71074693

>>71074121
I don't think the investors are ever going to catch wind of this drama stuff going on, they don't follow youtube channels, the overwhelming majority of them are not involved in the vtuber community at all.
They'll find out only once the decline starts hitting the pocketbooks hard. "Sink the Yacht" hit the stocks not because stuff was being exposed, but because the youtube metrics were going down. These declining viewership numbers which will transform into a lot less money will hit in July and hit hard in September.

>> No.71074914

>no Rosemi
I-is this real? She's missing from all recent collabs too. Don't give me false hope, I want to believe she's on her way out.

>> No.71075135

>>71074914
It's a JP event, why would Rosemi be in it?

>> No.71075181

>>71074693
There were rumours floating around NijiEN metrics were down as much as 50% from last year. If that's true many many investors will be looking at why. Especially as it's unlikely investors are going to buy the " oh they're watching JP instead" excuse that was trotted out last time

>> No.71075232

>>71075135
What are the other ENs doing there then?

>> No.71075331

>>71074914
Rosemi doesn't play the game

>> No.71075409

man, every time FES week rolls around I'm glad my oshi is no longer part of a corpo
when I used to follow hololive talents it always felt like the biggest waste of time, they all travel to japan and spend hours recording/dancing just for a bunch of generic idol performances behind a paywall. was never worth the lack of streams

>> No.71075416

>>71075135
I count at least 5 EN in that group. Millie, the two skanks that backstabbed Sayu, that one girl who lost both her "oshis", and the fuckboy next to her.

>> No.71075460

>>71075232
>Kotoka
>Meloco
Do I have to explain this?
>Petra
>Millie
They speak Japanese
>Vivi
She """speaks""" Japanese

>> No.71075528

>>71074914
That's like expecting Petra to show up in an Apex collab

>> No.71075533

>>71060853
Don't follow NijiJP, what's the average Finana of the organs involved?

>> No.71075691

>>71075416
Also Petra and Alban, so that's 7 altogether

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>>71058798
>Panda

Captcha: PDD (Pervasive Developmental Disorder) 20

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>>71058798
Even in this picture she looks like such a sad SAD penguin.

>> No.71075934

Friday's close 3340
Today (Monday) open 3285
3 minutes after today's open 3260 (Yahoo Finance is on a 20 minute delay)

Is there a separate stonks thread? Or is this a good place for it?

>> No.71076051

>>71075934
>Is there a separate stonks thread?
There is, /nasfaqg/. Just kidding. I guess it overlaps a bit with /#/.

>> No.71076329

>>71075409
Enough about you. To many, it's part of their dream. Why they joined Hololive.

Not for everyone. Don't disrespect those who want it or not.

>> No.71076381

>>71071087
I'm just waiting for the numberfags to crunch the numbers and see how fucked niji is compared to holofes.

but seriously this is literally setting up for failure, and this will just make the livers feel worse for something they cannot control. Like seriously why.

>> No.71076643

>>71059487
I like how you guys like to pretend Rosemi didn't retweet the Elira tweet like the good little backstabber she is

Only Scarle is truly innocent

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>>71059191
This is the time slot she's competing against. A free stream with this lineup.

>> No.71077214

>>71076643
Are we still on about this retweeting the black stream? I feel like retweeting it barely means anything considering the possibility of being ordered to do so by management. Only people who are confirmed fuckheads are the Clique, Vox, Reimu and Uki. Everyone else I'd personally reserve judgement on until we get more info.

>> No.71077295

>>71076643
>Only Scarle is truly innocent
And Kotoka

>> No.71077441

>>71077295
After the shit Sayu said? I'm still not convinced. Her and Finana are on probation at absolute best, and it doesn't seem likely they're off the hook.

>> No.71077594

Petra is a good egg.

>> No.71077719

>>71077441
Finana is only innocent if you believe she's genuinely too retarded to think for herself. Like, assisted-living levels of retardation. No matter how gullible she might be, there comes a point where personal responsibility overtakes the "dumb feesh got groomed" excuse.

>> No.71077727

>>71077594
Petra laying an egg... uoooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.71077796

>>71076642
I just checked who's on stage when she's going to on.

>Petra 12 JST 3D

> 11:35 to 12:35 Shirakami Fubuki / Sakura Miko / Minato Aqua / La+ Darkness

Grim.

>> No.71077803

>>71058798
they sent Petra to die...

>> No.71077816

>>71077719
The problem is that she's shown that this might unironically, genuinely be the case. With the right guidance she could've been great. Instead she got spoiled and all we're left with is a tiny, minuscule hope that she'll find the right support after she leaves.

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Petora...

>> No.71078267

>>71077803
She's in the queue, and this is her punishment for it

>> No.71078316

>>71077719
Considering she made Pomu's visit to New York an absolute hell, even with the right guidance she would've done something incredibly retarded.

>> No.71078527

>>71077816
>she'll find the right support after she leaves
>after she leaves
Why is it that everyone wants the livers to leave? Finana had ~800CCV(600-1k) in her last proper honkai stream, it'd be very risky for her to go indie with those numbers.
And that goes for a lot livers.

>> No.71078618 [DELETED] 

>>71058798
Bottom left
>Kotoka and Meloco amongst the jps
kek they're trying to salvage them.

>> No.71078665

>>71078527
Because the working environment and stench of the company that's been exposed to not support even their biggest in the most dire of circumstances shows that that is clearly not the kind of environment any content creator should want to be in. This is without even considering personal bullying by the clique. The company itself is exploitative and refuses to give any form of support.

>> No.71078730

>>71078618
I can see a timeline where Niji decides to axe EN and fire all the livers to shield itself from their drama. Even in that timeline I believe they'll transfer K&M into JP.

>> No.71078742

>>71058798
Where's Elira op?

>> No.71078781

What are they doing to Petra...

>> No.71078802

>>71078742
getting gangbanged by jp higher ups

>> No.71078924

>>71078742
She's started posting stuff on twitter, but that's a good point.
New rrat: She lawyered up and they're allowing her to post in order to avoid another #WhereIsSelen incident.
More seriously: Probably not streaming until the end of March.

>> No.71079039

>>71078924
other rrat I've seen
Millie is posting on her account because Elira literally can't for whatever reason. Allegedly some famelira thinks there's discrepancies in writing style.

...God I hope the rrat about her being human trafficked isn't true. The millie one about her taking over as management seemed hilariously outlandish, but now the human trafficking and an hero attempts are the only ones left to be proven right...

>> No.71079074

>>71077796
HoloFes page says it starts at 1PM JST, not 11:35AM JST.

>> No.71079187

>>71079039
Haven't heard these rrats, QRD?

>> No.71079222

>>71060160
>People expect Pomu to keep associating herself with Niji after successfully escaping
why?

>> No.71079232

>>71060948
People don't realize Pomu is just as selfish as any in the clique, she plays the victim card and won't act snarky about it but she won't hesitate to leave Niji behind for self gain, or ghost you even if you were bfs the day before, even if you didn't do anything bad to her.

>> No.71079346

>>71078742
Locked deep within some yakuza's dungeon awaiting her faith. All her posts on twitter are staff impersonating her

>> No.71079354

>>71079222
Because we want to believe those friendships were genuine.

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>>71079039
I mean, just look at this, both comments look like the same person, also in quick succession

>> No.71079434

>>71059166
post poopy butthole enna

>> No.71079453

>>71079232
Feel free to elaborate, Finana.

>> No.71079491

>>71079187
The simple idea of the gurrat is that Elira was the de facto manager for EN due to being able to speak japanese as a liaison for management, which could barely if at all speak english, and was the main point of contact. After the blackbox stream her reputation tanked though, and she's suspended for whatever reason and hasn't shown any provable signs of life that can't be explained by someone skinwalking her twitter. People joked that millie would take her place as the head of EN, and then Finana made a seethepost about how people don't appreciate Millie enough for organizing their JP collabs, unintentionally confirming the rrat that for some reason or another, Millie is doing managerial work right now.

The other thing is just a joke that with how bad she ruined the company, Riku is passing her around the office to satisfy the shareholders for losing them so much money. She's stuck in Japan for now on a visa and without the job she's homeless. On top of that she can't even really complain to anybody because of japan's fierce defamation laws making it illegal to harm someone's image even if it's true. She's in a really shit spot right now, likely of her own making at this point...

>> No.71079662

>>71059352
2 nukes weren't nearly enough

>> No.71079706

>>71079232
There's no way Pomu's like that. She made so much effort to work and build up her friends. If anything, she's more believable than Finana with the idea that she just had bad friends working behind her back. Hell, she probably didn't even understand how bad Elira or Finana were.

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>>71079039
>God I hope the rrat about her being human trafficked isn't true.
kek, what the fuck

>> No.71079844

>>71079491
I know about the gurrat, I was asking about the Human Trafficing one, first time I've heard it. Unless you mean the suits using her as an onahole. Anyway, I think that's way too fantastic to be true.
The suicide rrat might have more legs, if you decide to headcanon that Enna didn't show up for the Millie grand collab, because Millie and Enna are taking turns watching over Elira.
Anyway, sorry, let's not derail the thread, just got curious over new rrats.

>> No.71079863

>>71078924
3/13 at 9.20pm EDT/6.20pm PDT will be exactly 30 days since the end of the black screen video (it would be 8.20/5.20pm, if DST was not in effect). And that moment will also be 10.20am JST, on 3/14, on the day of the stockholders meeting -- in other words, Judgement Day.

She is definitely not returning to streaming before then. Whether she returns at any point after then may depend on how the shareholders meeting goes, and may also depend on whether or not they've already decided to let her go as soon as those 30 days are up.
It's unlikely that they'll terminate her or "graduate" her before the end of April, since she's currently scheduled to be in that show in Singapore on 4/27; but the chances of her leaving Niji before that show are not zero, and neither are the chances of her leaving before the end of this week.
And there is almost certainly gonna be a white paper published right after the stonks meeting. The only question is which name(s) will be on that notice.

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>>71079844
oh, no. That one wasn't serious. It's just the suits onahole one.
It's fine, the thread has no legs anyways other than shitting on how badly they're fucking up by letting Pomu go and sending Petra out to be the world's first corpo 3view 3d debut.

>> No.71080061

>>71079232
That's funny, because that all fits Selen to a T.
Meanwhile, Pomu's graduation had no "victim card" playing, and the only self-gain she's done since leaving is... go back to school? I mean, that's a very commendable thing to leave Niji for.

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>>71079232

>> No.71080353

>>71076642
Oh god, what are they thinking? She’s going to have a high 3view 3D Debut. And isn’t this right before some major investor meeting, too?

>> No.71080430

>>71080353
It's a couple of days after the meeting, and an hour before the HoloFes concert starts.

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>>71079232
How could Pomu be selfish? She was so nice on stream. She seems to still be talking even with Feesh and Elira over in Japan, so they seem to still b e friends. She's clearly a good person.

>> No.71080622

>>71078527
While you could argue that it's all down to groomers that want Finana to be more vulnerable and reliant on them, the main problem is that Finana is emotionally or mentally underdeveloped. She really is like a kid where she absorbs information like a sponge, and repeats it back like a parrot, and in a rough environment like NijiEN, that's not exactly for the best.

>> No.71080851

>>71079863
>And there is almost certainly gonna be a white paper published right after the stonks meeting. The only question is which name(s) will be on that notice.

I doubt it, if they were going to scapegoat someone, they'd have done it before the meeting to show results and calm down investors. It wouldn't do jack shit for the public - that sailed a long time ago, but it'd have helped investors. I guess they still have time to throw someone under the bus, but I feel like they'd have done it by now. Unless they scapegoat someone right before the meeting, so they can tell the investors they did something before another PDF doc hits the mainstream turning the narrative against them. But that's way too risky, stupid and damaging in the long term.

>> No.71080856

>>71078527
A big thing too is that 800 ccv is still pretty bad when the company's refusing to support you. They're taking so much off the top that it would legit be cheaper to just hire a real support and maybe even advertiser team than to work for them, even with half or less of the ccv and donations. I'm sure a lot of people would love to tune in for the drama buff on graduated livers and see if they seem clean or not. If you keep your nose clean for long enough, some antis might even turn, like they did with Sayu

>> No.71080936

I have a feeling that the original NDF (the JP version) will be used to inflate her noombers but who knows what that’ll translate to.

>> No.71081097

>>71079354
AHAHAHAHHHHH
That was a good one, anon-chama

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>>71081097
I want it to be true, I want them to have unbreakable bonds of friendship. God damn it, I don't want them to be a bunch of OL checking in for their 9-5.

>> No.71081542

>>71058798
hey that panda is the one that bullied luna, isn't she

>> No.71081587

>>71081542
Yeah

>> No.71081724

>>71069925
So what is an Idole?

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>>71058798
this is both sad and funny kek

>> No.71081771

>>71058798
>kurosanji news that isn't bad
ooh, rare. still boring tho

>> No.71081868

>>71081771
>pathetically sending a lone EN 3D to go up against holofes
>isn't bad

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>>71081542

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>>71081868
I agree with you that it's not great, but it's not exactly terrible. She should get about 3.6k CCVs, roughly the equivalent of a chest x-ray ASMR stream.

>> No.71082338

>>71058798
War? HAHAHAHAHA
I really want to see how Niji fuck up the event, but since i can't give them any views i'll wait my favorite dramatuvers.
Remember that Hololive only needs to do what they always do to keep winning, nothing to worry about.

>> No.71082438

>>71081868
ever single attempt at taking viewership from holofes has ended in total abject failure. this isn't wild to me

>> No.71082516

>>71059487
>>71059867
Uhhhh did Rosemi's 3D get canceled?

>> No.71082562

>>71082516
No, it's not for another 2 weeks

>> No.71082563

>>71079491
>>71079844
>goes to canadian embassy and denounces this shit
timmyturnerpraying.jpg

>> No.71082817

>>71082113
"What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all. What can we do then? What else is left but to abandon even the hope of truth, and content ourselves instead with stories? In these stories, it doesn't matter who the heroes are. All we want to know is: who is to blame? In this story, it was Elira Pandora. She was the best choice. An arrogant, unpleasant woman she ran the branch that night, she gave the orders... and no friends. Or, at least, not important ones. And now, Elira will spend the next ten years in a JAV studio. Of course, that sentence is doubly unfair. There were far greater criminals than her at work. And as for what Elira did do, the woman doesn't deserve exploitation. She deserves ''termination''. But instead, ten years for "criminal mismanagement." What does that mean? No one knows. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that, to them, justice was done. Because, you see, to them, a just world is a sane world. There was nothing sane about Nijisanji. What happened there, what happened after, even the good we did, all of it... all of it... madness. Well, I've given you everything I know. They'll deny it, of course. They always do. I know you'll try your best."

>> No.71082872

>>71080851
>But that's way too risky, stupid and damaging in the long term.
So…that’s the plan then?

>> No.71082975

Some anons were saying that they were cooking an "apology" where "both parties admit fault". What's up with that?

>> No.71083062

>>71082975
>Nijisanji
>apology
Probably hard drugs.

>> No.71083136

>>71058798
Are sisters willing to open their wallets to non-males? Surely it will be higher than A4 paper....

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>>71059166
Actually, she'll be sitting at home watching her real friend perform in HoloFes

>> No.71083383

>>71058798
FIRE FIRE LIGHT THE FIRE

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>pre tournament already massive decline this year
good luck competing holofes with flop tournament nijikeks

>> No.71083789

>>71061132
kek, Anycolor actually pulling a page from the Communists and having their talents undergo a struggle session

>> No.71084048

>>71082975
>both parties
Kek, nice fanfic

>> No.71084056

>>71082975
That was the Finana larper. At least I hope it was a larper. Claimed they had one more message in the works. One where both sides would admit fault, and try to find a middle ground to move on from. If it was true, I doubt Doki gave them the time of day. I sure as shit wouldn't. It's not Doki's place to save their careers after they put her through that shit. >>70157600
If that really was Finana, it was probably her own idea that she had been pushing to the rest of them. By now it has surely been shot down. That or they intend to admit fault a day before the shareholder meeting and aloha snackbar the entire company.

>> No.71084061

>>71074076
They can't shut it down because the investors are looking for overseas success due to Japan's worsening economy. But they put themselves in a position where they're the butt of the joke in the west, no talented person is ever going to join NijiEN now so their model of hoping to strike gold is not going to work.

>> No.71084180

>>71078527
Finana made her bed, now she gets to lie in it as her company collapses on top of her

>> No.71084241

>>71080353
Few days after but still. It's very possible this is strategic like a lot of anons are speculating and is designed with the intent to fail spectacularly and pave the way for them to fold the few worthwhile talents from EN into the main branch and shut shop on the rest.
Watch the investor meeting closely, there's a strong possibility they'll make talk of taking big action if things continue to go badly (i.e. if Petra's 3d does historically badly for a high profile corpo 3d debut).

>> No.71084368

>>71083609
Nijisanji's tournament spam has been very detrimental for them, it doesn't help that management has been taking over talent led events and sucking all of the soul from them. They fucked up Niji U so much that they just cancelled it for last year (when they took it over they paywalled it and made it shorter than previous years) and Kenmochi doesn't want to organize their huge MK8 tournament anymore.

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>>71084056
>That or they intend to admit fault a day before the shareholder meeting and aloha snackbar the entire company
>I did
>I bullied her
>I bullied the shit out of her
>And I'd fucking do it again
>Riku has a meeting in 8 hours

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>>71061132
>That time Ichikara made me write a reflection letter
>Ichikara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nijisanji
>Nijisanji, owned by Any Color (Formerly Ichikara)
>One color (Black)
Holy shit how did I forget about this, the memes write themselves

>> No.71085207

>>71084180
>finana is lying helplessly in bed as you tower over her
>she pleads for you to stop, but you abuse her in all the ways her contract allows and some it doesn't
>she whimpers and cries, mumbling something about gaslighting
>finally spent, you collapse on top of her small frame
Now I understand why people oshi the company. They just want to self-insert.

>> No.71085510

>>71058798
Look at these posters, the Hololive one feels like something special, the Nijisanji one is basically the same poster as last year with the same art, same logo and is not even translated, they're not even trying, SO lazy

>> No.71085759

>>71065002
Also one of the reasons why chihiro quitted apparently the debut? Of that wave coincided with her birthday and they didn't allow her to stream on her birthday

>> No.71085892

>>71084806
>A message from NijisanjiEN
>Black screen
>Millie: Hello we did an investigation, and we have brought forth the parties responsible
>Nina and Pomu's models appear on screen
>"Nina" (with a nasally voice that sounds familiar): Hello Honeys, Its me Nina Kosaka. I want to admit that I bullied Selen and am deeply sorry for the trouble I caused to Nijisanji.
>"Pomu" (with a deep british man voice): Its-a me Pomu! I also bullied Selen, I didn't think doing such would hurt our Nijisanji family and bosses.
>Millie: As you can see these are the people that did such awful things. However don't harass them because they said they were sorry. Also stay tuned for a message from Riku Tazumi detailing how they will sue these two for harming brand image.

>> No.71086043

>>71065002
So in the end them pushing yet another new male group fucked them over? That's hilarious.

>> No.71086193

>>71059487
>Wosemi already got stealth suspended.
She is literally streaming right now.

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>>71069925
>She loves her Nijifamily
Does she?

>> No.71086389

>>71085892
Given that it's Nijisanji, it has a chance higher than 1% of happening.

>> No.71086427

>>71058798
Why would they send Petra out to die like that

>> No.71086534

>>71086193
she's streaming on twitch so... she's going to vshojo soon

>> No.71086611

>>71085759
She wouldn't quit just for that, she probably saw how the company slowly was having more and more Black Company behavior

>> No.71087131

>>71058798
How many Finanas do you think both streams will get?

>> No.71087225

>>71086534
It would be deeply ironic if Rosemi somehow made it into Vshojo over Finana. I think that was something Finana probably hoped would happen during her Melody collab.

>> No.71087281

>>71079232
10 nijishekels have been deposited to your steam gift card account. keep up the good work! thanks -Sylvie

>> No.71087312

>>71058798
no vox no enna, kek they are punishing the bullys

>> No.71087375

>>71087312
I didn't even see that.
>international concert
>no Enna.
What the fuck were they thinking?

>> No.71087578

>>71086611
There were various reasons, and one of them that she mentioned was that while she did most of the work to win a lawsuit, Anycolor took the credit for it. Paraphrasing her words "it feels like being indie when its convenient to them".

>> No.71087722

>>71076642
>Marine
>Gura
Welp, the 3D Niji stream is getting screwed.

>> No.71087927

>>71087375
>>international concert
??? That's not a concert, that's a Project Sekai tournament

>> No.71088414

>>71084909
well, they wanted to hide their one(black)color so they changed from ichi to any. Still black thou

>> No.71088467

>>71058798
>nijisanji fans will watch nijisanji
>hololive fans will watch hololive
I don't see the Issue really, is not lie they would be watching the other company if their own wasn't streaming something.

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>>71061132
>everyone is laughing
>including the chat

>> No.71088583

>>71059166
Anon her best friend is a holo, and she performs during the Niji collab, who do you think she's gonna watch?

>> No.71088594

>>71088467
>Only company fans will watch these performances
Why are you pretending to be retarded anon?

>> No.71088649

>>71088594
I mean, you ahve to pay to watch holofest, I don't think a casual viewer would do that.

>> No.71088792

>>71088649
The pre-show (which overlaps petra) is completely free and on youtube.
Also, just look at her competition for that time slot specifically... >>71077796
>11:35 to 12:35 Shirakami Fubuki / Sakura Miko / Minato Aqua / La+ Darkness

>> No.71088815

>>71088583
People really thinks Doki wants to watch the Company that almost let her to suicide and almost fuck her over throwing her under the bus. Nijisisters needs to be a word to describe delusional people

>> No.71088876

>>71088815
They do, they call them fans.

>> No.71088907

>>71088792
>fans of Fubuki, Miko ,o Aqua and La+ will watch holofes
>fans of Petra will like petra
my point still stands, what the other comany is doing is of no consequence

>> No.71088988

>>71088792
>FBK, Migo, and Aqua
Ouch

>> No.71089051

>>71088907
You don't know much about Petra then. I'd be extremely surprised if her audience didn't overlap with hololive. She's probably going to be annexed into JP after the branch dissolves.

>> No.71089072

>>71060970
faunaiscute

>> No.71089078

>>71080061
Both Pomu and Selen are done with Niji. The former had no "friend" in Niji despite what you might think,

>> No.71089167

>>71088876
I meant "Nijisister" needs to be THE word to describe delusional people

>> No.71089355

>>71089167
Yea. Anyone still a fan of niji is delusional, so they just call them fans.

>> No.71089408

>>71088792
What the fuck are they thinking

>> No.71089604

>>71088907
Isn't the whole point of big event's (such as FES and 3D) to attract new audiences and pull "casual" fans back in. Ideally working in a way that the algorithm favours and than draws more people in.

The only other reason is to milk their fanbases for money, but that only works if you are popular (and niji shitters are not popular).

>> No.71089644

>>71088876
>>71089167
>>71089355
Why would anyone want to be a fan of nijisanji at this point? It's torturing the livers what the fuck are you a fan of nijisanji for? Someone fucking save them what the fuck why Japanese laws didn't do anything to them and let the fucking company runs wild all these years?

>> No.71089833

>>71087375
She’s too busy malding and posting here. It’s making her IBS act up

>> No.71090242

>>71089833
imagine the smell

>> No.71090329

>>71087927
eh? it's not? why on earth is it so big then? isn't that just a weird rhythm game?

>> No.71090398

>>71090329
project sekai is huge amongst youtube kiddies

>> No.71090464

>>71088907
I know you might have some mental challenges, but there is a thing called marketing.
-doing 3D will get more clicks, views, and possibly more reach on social media due to fan posting about it. This will lead to more people knowing your product (Petra) and might come and buy (like and subscribe) to it.
By doing that genius move, Anycolor gave up the potential social media reach, and random people got sent there because of the algorithm. Because of that, it has the potential to hurt Petra's growth in the long run.
Hope this will help your challenged mind.

>> No.71090632

>>71089604
>Isn't the whole point of big event's (such as FES and 3D) to attract new audiences and pull "casual" fans back in. Ideally working in a way that the algorithm favours and than draws more people in.
It should, which is why it was a bizarre idea for Anycolor to decide that the best time to debut Petra's 3D would be an hour or so before HoloFES. Petra also wasn't the most popular liver in NijiEN to begin with and she went through periods where she wouldn't stream frequently, so why they wouldn't choose a better time and day to debut her 3D is anyone's guess.

>>71090329
I think its either Project Diva for poorfags on smartphones or Project Diva for the gacha audience.

>> No.71091487

>>71089051
>She's probably going to be annexed into JP after the branch dissolves.
Unless she's planning to graduate. Why else would Niji intentionally ruin her 3D debut by running her up against Holofes?

>> No.71091780

>>71090632
>why they wouldn't choose a better time and day to debut her 3D is anyone's guess.
She's in the graduation queue, and they're punishing her for wanting to leave. Just like they punished Yugo, and Zaion, and Nina (did they scuff Nina's graduation beyond "accidentally" putting the wrong date on the notice? I don't remember), and Mysta, and Pomu, and Selen, and Kyo.

That's why they wouldn't choose a better time and day to debut her 3D.

>> No.71091853

>>71090632
I dont want the stench of Niji anywhere near my Miku.

>> No.71092026

>>71091780
I still remember how Niji management gave Kiara's manager the wrong date for the totsu. She only showed up cause Pomu DM'd her directly.

>> No.71092090

>>71091780
I think they "scuffed" Nina's graduation by giving her less time than Mysta? I think at least one of them had a full month and the other only had two weeks tops.

>> No.71092244

>>71091780
How did they fuck up mysta and kyo's graduatons?

>> No.71092410

>>71082516
Hers is on the 22nd which is why it's so weird why Petra was thrown into the trenches alone

>> No.71092698

>>71092410
Suisei's bday but at least it's not during JP hours.

>> No.71092802

>>71092090
Not really sure that counts, though. He was the only one whose white paper was published with more than two weeks' notice; everyone else was either two weeks or immediate.

>>71092244
They gave Mysta perms to appear on Trash Taste, for the episode set to air the day after his graduation. And they had granted the perms to him after he had already made his public graduation announcement.
In Kyo's case, they published his white paper at 3am PST on 2/1... and then they shat the bed with the Selen/Doki situation.

>> No.71092859

>>71058798
They really want to set themselves up for failure huh?

>> No.71093297
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71093297

>>71084061
>They can't shut it down because the investors are looking for overseas success due to Japan's worsening economy.
roru, rumao even

After all the shit that got leaked even in JP Anycolor is trying to save as much face and contain the damage to be just EN, they will shut it down and let the hatred simmer for a while, then maybe; AND MAYBE try again (I doubt it). Thinking the board will try to risk it with that sinking ship is disingenous if not blatantly delusional.

Face the fact that Niji EN was a headless chicken since Luxiem.

>> No.71093607

>>71092698
Imagine if they'd decided to put her debut at 5 AM PST, that would be truely cruel

>> No.71093606

>>71093297
If they shut it down it'll reflect back on their brand and hurt their stock price even more, that's the whole point. They have no good options

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>>71093606
>it'll reflect back on their brand and hurt their stock price even more, that's the whole point.
If they play their cards right (Using Petra as a sacrificial lamb) they can make a good argument about axing EN (same happened with ID), Even at this point is not how much the can lose, but how much they can save and how good was for a reason.

>Picrel is the fate of Elira

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>>71059166
It is now Day 27 of the 3 day special operation against Dokibird

>> No.71094432

>>71058798
I WILL BUY SOME OF YOUR STOCKS NIJI

>> No.71094513

>>71090632
>It should, which is why it was a bizarre idea for Anycolor to decide that the best time to debut Petra's 3D would be an hour or so before HoloFES.

They may still have delusions about being a serious competitor to Hololive. Or alternatively, they may not really understand who their audience even is. They don't have the brightest people working there.

>> No.71094522

>>71094432
Better hurry up! they might not be here next year! Buy your limited edition stocks now! Totally signed by Luca*!

>> No.71094697

>>71093865
>they can make a good argument about axing EN >same happened with ID
When HoloEN and HoloID is enjoying great successes in those markets?

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71094942

>>71094697
Niji ID was stable, but not at the eyes of the board. Then they made a blunder to axe ID (idk if was because all ID was 3 view or that the only one was left was just Mika)
>NijiEN
The current shitstorm that is unfolding atm without any sign of dying down

>> No.71095266

>>71094942
It's not that they axed ID, it's that they folded them into JP at the same time as KR to make it look like they were ""consolidating"" instead of dealing with the absolute disaster that was KR... which in hindsight looks similar to what EN is dealing with now.
ID was actually doing just fine.

>> No.71095446

>>71058798
>Overlapped Holo Gen 5 debut with Selejo debut
>Overlapped HoloFest 3 with Renunculus Debut
>Overlapping HoloFest 5 with Petra 3D debut and a sponsored Prosekai tournament
Sounds like a strategy Nijisanji chose to implement. I can't say it has been working out so far. Anyone have a list where Cover overlapped Niji's major events with their own events?

>> No.71095461

>>71095266
>t they folded them into JP at the same time as KR
Is axing with extra steps. What I mean is that EN will face the same fate as KR and ID, but this time with enough valid reasons.

>> No.71095654

So Elira is leaving the company right? It's just a question of graduation or termination

>> No.71095701

>>71095654
Neither. For her contributions to the company's stock price, she's being promoted to manager of the JP branch.

>> No.71095999

>>71095701
>the company's stock price

3,225.00-115.00 (-3.44%)
As of 02:01PM JST. Market open.

>> No.71096787

>>71093297
They will never shut it down even if half the organs graudate right now, they'll prop it up as a shell solely for the investors.

>> No.71096803

>>71082975
Idk if it was true or not, i schizo wrote a piece other day regarding clique blackmailing doki to take part of blame and make joint statement but she ignored them so black stream dropped. Some guy said its's a reach. A "leaker" came and replied to him and said its not a reach and sounds similar but some info is different. It was a few days ago and he did not reply afterwards though so not sure if larping.

>> No.71096969

>>71096803
It lines up with the previous stuff about the joint statement. My rrat is that the "reach" was the timing though. I think the black screen came before they tried to reach out. If they tried to reach out after the black screen after realizing just how badly they fucked up, then maybe in desperation they could try to poke Sayu for a similar deal, maybe before or after the contract leak, which might have prompted her to get offended enough to leak her silencing agreement.

>> No.71097407

>>71096969
>sayu got assblasted enough by their attempt of just using her as a meat shield yet again that she released the metaphorical nuke
that's the funniest theory, so I'm buying it

>> No.71097613

>>71096969
That rrat was doing the rounds early last week. I love the pettiness of it all. The Hagdivers stream and this rrat is making me fall in love with her.

>> No.71097731

>>71097613
i might check her stuff out these days

>> No.71098040

>>71096969
>>>>/vt/thread/70958009#p70967513
>>>>/vt/thread/70869537#p70952071
Original schizo rambler here. Not sure if the poster is still around. Assuming Leaker is real, looking back at what might have differences, the only thing that might look off from GURRAT would be the last part mentioning the company, if we were to believe the clique controls middle management and liaison between EN talents and JP management. Assuming Selen has to talk to the clique regarding the reasons for why she wanted to graduate, they would have already known the reasons on why she would want to leave, which is probably after last cup of coffee debacle on Dec 25. Between Dec 25 and Jan 26, we can assume that Selen attempted once and subsequently a second time a few weeks later which no one other than people closest to her know. (What I didn't reveal to anyone and only my parents and therapist knew was that it was not one attempt but two, which happened a few weeks after the first. - Doki, Feb 14). The clique probably knew about the first one but did not know about the second one until after Feb 5, when she sent in the documents into the company.
According to the twitter post from Doki on Feb 5 "I requested to leave first but on more neutral terms on 26th Jan." We can also assume that she has also told the company (The Clique), she attempted once and it would be best for both of them to leave on good terms. Since the clique is scared of the JP side knowing about how they might have potentially drove someone to suicide, they probably did not report anything regarding about it to JP, only that Selen is hard to work with and always breaking multiple rules. Assuming the clique has power to dole out suspensions, JP probably thought Selen was just under suspension and was not asking to be terminated since Selen would not have access to any of the liver accounts for contact. According to this quote (On Feb 5th, my lawyer discussed and said it will be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after my request to part. - Doki, Feb 14), she probably sent the medical documents and other reasonings for why she wants to leave the company directly to JP. JP side probably only noticed now that the clique has been omitting information regarding Selen for a while and in order to save their own asses, they probably tried to silence her by making her sign the Eternal NDA Legal Mindset showed the other day, but Doki probably did not sign it. This might be the part where the JP side got a hold of the situation like Zaion, being contacted by someone similar to Yoshi mentioned in the Slack screenshot. This might also be the part where JP side not knowing what to do about it, sent the whole package to the clique to confirm if what Selen sent was correct or not (Vox thoroughly read the whole thing). Since Doki would not sign the contract, she got the big termination letter on Feb 5, noting every single thing she was fired for: some probably taken from clique's report to JP and some probably taken from Selen's lawyer letters to the JP management. Finding out certain livers are mentioned in the termination letter (Feb 5) and Doki not signing the eternal contract, the clique came together to blackmail Doki to stop her from saying anything further but she ignored them since she went back to being Doki. Since the public sentiment is not going their way, the clique decided to come together and form a narrative and drops the black stream on Feb 12.

Furthermore, if we were to believe Millie taking over the role of head management to be true, it also lines up the fact that Elira has been weird lately on her social media and has not streamed once since the black stream. We can also concur that she might be having trouble with JP management after being found out that the clique has been lying to them for sometime now and the CEO only noticed after the stocks has been dropping substantially. This also helps the case of making the "negligible" IR document sent out from JP side, not fully aware of the impact it might have on the situation, either unaware of Selen's attempts due to disinformation from clique or just due to pure malice. Another thing that does not add up was the difference between the black stream and the CEO apologizing stream since it might also point to Riku not actually being aware of what is happening in EN side. This could even be bigger than the clique because it seems like there are people like Yoshi from middle/upper management who has the most to lose if EN sinks so it might just be that most of the people who are working in EN side are just hiding information from CEO or upper management.

>> No.71098360

>>71098040
I think that makes sense, but the only thing that seems a bit far fetched is the idea that they'd try to blackmail Selen. I don't think we've seen enough proof that they'd go that far, and it could've just been a misguided attempt to reach out for a joint statement, like the original poster thought. I feel like it'd take more than a week to drum up a story like that, though. They barely wasted any time trying to form a hate mob with that video.

>> No.71098540

>>71098040
Speaking of leakers, have the one from the rentry or LK shown up at all since the first of March? Part of me wonders if they were actually a liver that they got caught.

>> No.71098699

>>71098540
If we believe LK to be Kyo, there's no reason for him to come back since he's not privy to insider info anymore.
As for the leaker, it seemed like they said all they wanted to say already, only coming back at the end to correct a misunderstanding regarding Vox telling Selen to kill herself (didn't happen).

>> No.71098758

>>71098699
Ah, he didn't? Good, that's at least SOMETHING good we can say about them.

>> No.71098876

>>71081868
While it would look bad for no one to stream, just do a large collab. Don't sacrifice a 3D debut... if cared for the talent...if.

>> No.71098900

>>71098360
I might have botched my word choice, but maybe it was more likely reaching out to Selen to say something nice in her PL to assuage the crowds, but she said she has not looked back once she got back to Doki so i assume she completely ignore all their pleas.

>> No.71099052

>>71098758
Remember that whoever the leaker is (if they are real), they can only know what they've seen from their own perspective. So it's impossible to prove it didn't happen.
But I believe the chances Vox said it to be really low. There's no reason to doubt that part of the testimony in particular.
It's just good to keep in mind that only Selen herself would know what everyone said to her directly.

>> No.71100005

I don't get it. They could do it a week before or after sure, But how does it matter? No one cares an irreverent shitter from side branch.

>> No.71100077

>>71097731
you WILL become heavily parasocial

>> No.71100287

>>71100005
There has to be a deliberate reason for doing so at this crossing. Rosemi’s is on the 22nd(?) and they could’ve easily slated both within three days of each other.

>> No.71100608

>>71100005
You are correct, it does not matter when they do it, but it also works the other way around
If it doesn't matter, why do it at this particular time then?
She doesn't have that much overlap with Hololive, but she still has a fair bit
And that's ignoring having a bigger event happen at the same time overshadow all your hard work for a very unique event you probably only get to do once
Having a birthday on Christmas is less depressing than this...

>> No.71100902

>>71100608
try having your birthday on january 2nd

>> No.71105534

>>71100005
NIJISEETHE

>> No.71105913

>>71100608
Because it's a weekend and it's the first weekend after the investors meeting. Make no mistake, that is the only reason why they're even letting them have a 3D debut: to dangle some form of support in front of the investors. They certainly do not have any other reason to do so, monetary or advertising or otherwise, as 3Ds for (Niji)EN have been shown to underperform in all these categories and more (from their PoV, anyway; they're also part of the reason why).

>> No.71108965

>>71058798
Dont forget V&U new gen debuts

>> No.71109065

Went sleeping, from what I've seen from the catalog, what happened with scarle?

>> No.71109170

>>71109065
Tweeters tried to cancel her for eating cakes at Starbucks.
Starbucks supports Israel instead of Palestine, therefore Starbucks is bad in their eyes.

>> No.71109302

>>71076642
All of umisea are together that day, nice

>> No.71109361

You forgot about Rosemi's 3D debut coinciding with Neo-Porte 1st Generation's 3D debut next weekend.

>> No.71109526

>>71079232
Pomu possibly doesn't want to be attached to her past at Nijisanji anymore, and that past includes you too.
May you take this it as a opportunity to change things around. The end of a story can be the start of another.

>> No.71109532

>>71058798
Literally whomst?

>> No.71110001

>>71109532
>Hololive Production is a virtual YouTuber agency owned by Japanese tech entertainment company Cover Corporation. In addition to acting as a multi-channel network, Hololive Production also handles licensing, merchandising, music production and concert organization. As of January 2024, the agency manages 78 VTubers in three target languages (Japanese, Indonesian and English), totalling over 50 million subscribers, including several of the most subscribed VTubers on YouTube and some of the most watched female streamers in the world.

>> No.71111295

>>71059166
kys ennacuck

>> No.71114048

>>71094942
>The current shitstorm that is unfolding atm without any sign of dying down
Eh, i'd say its winding down, you already see less mentions on twitter/reddit/here, people are slowly getting tired, month from now everyone will calm down completely. But yeah their reputation in the west is stained.

>> No.71114052

>>71109170
Do they ever say what their evidence for that was? Or was it some he said, she said stuff?

>> No.71114157

>>71114048
>winding down
Nope

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>>71111295
enna*

>> No.71114236

>>71114048

Bro are we seeing the same shit on social media ? It's not winding down since at least every week some damning stuff keeps coming out

>> No.71114552

>>71114052
Their evidence for Starbucks being involved with Israel or the evidence for Scarle eating cake from that place?
For the first, I couldn't care less.
As for Scarle, she announced that she was going to make a eating Starbucks cake stream on Twitter, which you can imagine how it was received.

>> No.71115664

>>71099052
>>71100287
it could possibly be following niji jp's schedule for the string of 3d streams a few years ago. there was one point where 3d debut streams were done every friday, although petra's is on saturday while rosemi's is on friday next week

>> No.71115704

>>71115664
damn i dont know why that replied to two my bad

>> No.71116776

>>71114203
Ya love to see it.

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