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How did hololive manage to win?

>> No.70920435

>>70920388
By hiring actual managers to do the managing

>> No.70920444

>>70920388
Try to not repeat the same fuck-ups.

>> No.70920511
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70920511

>>70920388
The tried and true Doki technique

>> No.70920569

>>70920388
Paying their employees more than 8$/h

>> No.70920586

>>70920388
By doing nothing special and just keeping things are they are. Niji is the same. They have always been a drama-fuel company, it's just that now English speakers get a taste of it firsthand since nobody bothers to check the nijiJP drama shit. Same as how nijis have always been more crass and generally trashier than hololive as well. Niji hasn't changed at all and none of this shit is new to them at all, you
re all just realizing it now because it's happening in english.

>> No.70920599

>>70920511
Carried by a real Aryan like Niko and not some brown eyed mutt like RPR.

>> No.70920663

>>70920586
>nijiJP drama shit
Apart from the Roa and Mirei situations, what other garbage gets thrown around over there?

>> No.70920697

Hololive:
>Make a mistake
>Try to do better
Nijisanji
>Make a mistake
>Wanna see me do it again?

>> No.70920723

>>70920388
By being humble enough to know when they fucked up and striving to do better in the future.

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>>70920599
Shouldn't you be injecting dye into irises, Herr Doktor?

>> No.70920781

>>70920388
by doing nothing

>> No.70920991

>>70920388
>Unmodded Lethal Company
>Boring new outfits
Is that really winning?

>> No.70921145

>>70920388
>Actually passionate people that want to do their best to be loved by their fans
vs
>psychopathic narcissists making BFE slop for chinese sisters

>> No.70921264

Miko and Lamar

>> No.70921321
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Where's the win?

>> No.70921372

>>70920663
>he doesn't know.
Anon, the stupid shit that happens in EN isn't even close to the shit that happens in JP where you have
>Self admitted rapists
>catfishers
>Blatant Clique and Fandom wars (Nijisanji Arc autism, Roa vs Meiro)
>subtle but still visible bullying from older gens members (see: Kanae's passive aggressive go at Salome during her prime)
>Favoritism galore (Some niji members like Aiba even proudly parading it prior to leaving)
>The fanbase being unironic psychos that drive both their own livers mad enough to graduate and even almost drove another non-niji vtuber to suicice (aloe) because of a perceived slight
The fanbase in particular is just absolutely rotten to the core. When you go after Sugita who is arguably the most based Seiyuu in the industry (and has even cold shouldered a known bully), you know this people are beyond redemption.

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>>70921321
My bad, wrong pic. Where's the win?

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70921432

>>70920388
By not being evil and actually learning from their mistakes.

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>>70920991
>Modded Palworld

>> No.70922005

>>70920388
Aren't they just better in every except in dressing numbers?
Sorry if I use the term wrong.

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>>70921414
>Cover is in a crab channel after IPO and used their IPO profits to buy a studio that insures the business survives even if VTubing fades other then that they have done nothing with their stock
>Nijisanji performed a buyback(which will pump up their price because they are literally buying their own stock), opened margin lending which makes their shares more volatile creating larger upward and downward swings, their contract reveals are unironically bullish as fuck because it means suspensions and terminations are free money for the company
Stocks aren't rational in the short term anon. You can't watch them like racehorses and compare them head to head because there are factors that have absolutely nothing to do with the company that can pump a stock or cause it to tank. This goes both ways.
Stocks are also forwards looking, Cover running flat means that the market has priced in no changes and believes at its current valuation range is fair. Anykara was intially affected by the Dokibird stuff but drama tends to only have a short term effects though it can poison the stock in the long run.
As an investor I don't give a shit if Anykara and Cover are diverging because they are different companies with different structures who have done different things with their stocks again Anykara initiated a Buyback in fact the divergence is most likely due to said Buyback.


tl;dr Comparing stock performance is fucking retarded and you are dumb. Stick to Index funds.

>> No.70922652

By not hiring leftist cliques and being a black company

>> No.70922708

>>70921414
Whatever makes you sleep at night, sister.

>> No.70923266

>>70920388
By pay manager with basic Canadian salary not based from JP area

>> No.70923593

>>70920388
hololive has been winning since 2020

>> No.70923834

>>70920388
They just weren't cartoonishly evil. You'd think that'd be a low bar to beat, and yet no other company has managed.

>> No.70923854

>>70922542
Sounds like a lot of cope to me because Nijisanji beat out Hololive in stock money

>> No.70924237

>>70920388
Almost all of their competition is either horribly incompetent, shamelessly greedy, vulgar and trashy, or just plain lazy. Their winning because their competition goes out of their way to handicap themselves for the stupidest of reasons

>> No.70924253

>>70923854
Nah. It's just stocks I've been on /biz/ all day I don't care about either of these penny stocks to be honest.

>> No.70924472

>>70921321
>>70921414
>why would you care about the employees being treated right and good content as the consumer?
>the investors and executives pockets are what really matters!
This isn't the win you think it is, sisters.

>> No.70924712

>>70921372
>When you go after Sugita
qrd?

>> No.70924988

>>70923854
+70% overall sounds better than +0% overall lmao
cover is currently winning on stock and will win in long term too
niji will crash and burn

>> No.70925246

>>70924472
What kind of commie argument is this? Good content is subjective. The employees still work there and say they're happy there. Is the problem that a company is making profit? The Hasan bug has spread from Sayu to her fans

>> No.70925939

>>70925246
Shareholders are literally the worst thing that can happen to an entertainment company and after Disney, Bioware, and Blizzard everyone knows it. Fans who bought Cover shares don't care that the price is stagnant and I actively want the money grubbing ESG monkeys lose money, so there's no reason to root for the price to go up.

>> No.70925968

>>70925246
Okay? And why do you care how profitable the company is? Who does the stock market benefit? Be honest now, kike.

>> No.70926234

>>70921321
Wtf???? I'm guessing it's irony or shitposting gone wrong..?

>> No.70926496

>>70925246
Anon I fucking HATE that subhuman tankie propagandist trash. It's still not wrong to care about the wellbeing of others just because he pretends to aswell.

>> No.70926975

>>70925968
I care about how profitable because it makes the HoloDrones seethe.

>> No.70927482

>>70920388
>hololive
>try not to be shit
>wins

>nijisanji
>takes glock and shoots own foot
>takes glock and shoots own foot
>keep repeating

>> No.70927709

>>70921414
remember, you are negligible sister.

>> No.70927842

>>70926975
>Everybody shitting on nijisanji right now.
>H-h-holo is seething!
make more believable lie nijibrony.

>> No.70927954

>>70926975
Do you really belieb it?

>> No.70928219

>>70920388
Hard work, consistent work, and patience instead of chasing the biggest number. Hololive's mindset is based on growth while Nijisanji only wants to have a bigger number than Hololive. In Niji EN interviews they literally ask you "How are you going to beat Gura?"

>> No.70928794

>>70921414
Using YTD this has got to be bait

>> No.70929251

>>70924712
From archive dumps:

https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/1682018097279160320
>Sugita gives advice to niji liver who's been copying his voice and personality as his shtick for a while
>niji fans harass Sugita because their precious liver doesn't need any advice/criticism from him

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