/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70810254
>Where did it all go so wrong?
well...

>>70810254
Didn't she quit?

Oh she is no longer active as the three-colored cat? qrd?
before the entire lolsuit thing i read she went menhera on kaigainikkii

>>70810254
>Where did it all go so wrong?
come sit here op, It's a long story.

>>70810254
>less than pippi
grim

>>70810352
>Oh she is no longer active as the three-colored cat?
She's avoiding YouTube streams. I imagine it's because she'll get called out for being a shitty person
Nazuna is a convenient way for her to escape from her terrible reputation.

Honestly, with everything that's happened and been revealed about her, it's a fucking miracle she still has as many viewers as she does. I don't know if it's some sort of God-given charisma or menhera chasers but her continued success despite everything could be a case study in parasocial relationships.

Holy shit, they let her keep the twitch channel too? Vshojo are the biggest suckers in the industry

>>70810254
Should have turned off Discord notifications. This tumble down has been pretty incredible.

>>70810352
She's just trying to escape the consequences of the marriage yab. She dusted off Nazuna because people were trolling her on Mikeneko, plus she lost some of her most diehard paypigs. Probably thinks she can lure in some casuals who don't follow vtuber news by streaming on Twitch as a character that's less obviously linked to Rushia.

>>70810512
she should've just got her mouth shut after that mishap.
Everything would've been different if she didn't talk with kore kore.

>>70810254
>-124 followers per hour
Kek

>>70810254
Well she confirmed herself that she is a manipulative and genuinely terrible person, so it's only natural that her viewership suffers.

>>70810625
>>70810625
>Everything would've been different if she didn't talk with kore kore.
She had talked with him for months if not years. He was ALWAYS going to make a stream talking about that.

>>70810254
how many finana is this ?

>>70810313
VShoujo talents can keep their models and name after leaving.

>>70810704
Worth 4 finanas

>>70810742
Wasn't there a small corpo that did this and went bankrupt because they were getting farmed for free models?

>>70810625
>mishap
Nah, the funniest thing is if she had just been honest and wasn't lying to her fans, she'd probably still be Rushia today. If she was the person she claimed to be, there would have been no Discord message to begin with.

>>70810810
Tsunderia or Cyberlive I think?

>>70810423
>>70810576
I'm gonna keep it a hunnid with you:
I don't hate her, never been her paypig, but I just really look down on her as an entertainer for offering nothing beyond menhera GFE. She did have good rapport with a lot of people it seems, so it's really a shame she went out in infamy and potentially at the loss of several friendships in Hololive.
I won't presume to judge her for the thing she went to trial to - it's yet to be conclusively determined if she is that bad of a person but I will say that her getting leaking Hololive stuff made me glad she got out of the company, and the fact that most of the times I hear about her now is drama shit has really made glad she can't associate with my oshi anymore.
Still, can't help but feel somewhat bad for the little retard: I know that Hololive has a lot of menheras despite how good the gig is, but I can't help but wonder if she'd be in a mentally better place had she stayed.

>>70811023
If she stayed, Hololive would burn brighter than KyoAni

>>70810254
>Nip Amber Heard
>Leaks private info to dramaleeches
>Lies easier than she breathes
It takes a very special kind of mentally ill fan to still watch her.

>cozy voice acting gig
>filtered her most schizo fans while keeping the most loyal ones
>still streaming
She won.

>>70810495
Anon mikeneko is an exception. You think the rest of vshoujo will act like her?

>>70810254
The fact that she still sticks to the GFE content after everything she went through is so abnormal to me

>>70811398
She's good at it. That's the only reason. Her inability to do anything else will be her downfall now that her true colors are known.

>>70810254
That’s an open-ended question, anon.

>>70811206
>>cozy voice acting gig
She admitted to slandering a music producer who has ties to the anime industry. How long do you think her VA gig is lasting?
Japan takes slander seriously. She lost several job offers within two days of making her statement

>>70811023
People wanting to fuck her is kind of all she’s good at though, her normal ass streams were boring as fuck but she was in Hololive during the boom so she was going to have viewers regardless. She definitely knows how to butter up her fans and have them eating out of her hand, but that whole shtick has been blown out of the water with it finally being confirmed that her and mafu were fucking.

Didn't she graduate?

>>70811398
It’s the only thing she knows how to do.

>>70811677
Yes, vshojo lets you keep everything.

>>70810254
It proved cuckfag aren't majority anymore

>>70811559
Anon all she’ll have to do is take a page out of Amamiya Sora’s book and she’ll be fine.

>>70810625
That guy sold her trust for clicks

>>70811656
>eating out of her fingers
Don't you mean her pussy.

>>70810254
That's 1.5k too many honestly, she merits maybe like 15 viewers as her deserved maximum. She is a genuinely fucking terrible person and genuinely sociopathically exploitative with her audience, the picture of everything that can be bad about vtubing rolled into one. She already made millions, she should not get another cent.

>>70811858
qrd?

>>70811860
And she did the same thing to her fellow company members by talking to him in the first place.

>>70811920
Amamiya Sora went from being a nobody to being a somebody over night around the same time a photo went around that looked like her hanging out with a bunch of old Japanese suits.

>>70812019
Hey, that's showbiz.

>>70810254
Did..Did nobody tell him??

>>70810667
He was definitely going to make a video about her, but it is her responsibility to NOT leak shit to him.
She was terminated for breaching NDA. She leaked shit to him.
If she just shut the hell up, she wouldn't be terminated.

>>70811008
It was Cyberlive. I remember how one of their gen pretty much leave altogether when the 1 year contract period ends kek

>>70812049
Oh yeah, that was just a relevant example for the anime industry that came to my head. If she’s willing to suck and fuck she will get jobs.

Finally, a dream situation where all the unicorns have truly and utterly been chased out of the fanbase. Surely the true mainstream audience will come back in and raise her up. Their off-stream personal lives are their own private business, after all.

>>70812019
That has nothing to do with that anon's point.
People hiring her aren't going to care about her relationship or whether or not she betrayed her gachikoi. They are going to care about her spreading lies and gossip about a famous music producer online, which she admitted to doing. She lied and claimed he killed her cat
I wonder if she actually was the one who started the wig shitpost

>>70810894
She would have remained as Rushia but her viewers would have become Matsuri tier if she admitted to being married while grifting GFE that hard. Still a far better outcome for her than her current one where everyone despises her.

>>70812155
Sure it does. Any producer looking to cast her who may be put off because she said some bad things about her ex husband may also be swayed back because she sucks his cock.

>>70812188
>Still a far better outcome for her than her current one where everyone despises her.
This. There's still guaranteed big payday with Holofes and Holosummer even if her streaming career went into the gutter like Matsuri

>>70812188
She could start masturbating on Fantia and people would pay for it.

Its because hololivefans are fans of the company, not the talents. Look how few jumped to watching kson and Nazuna despite being top earning holos. Their oshi is yagoo, not any holomem.

>>70812332
Coco didn't even have a lot of viewers in Hololive and Mikeneko yabs every 4 months and burns off more and fans each time
Most of the VShojo fags here also don't watch her anymore or refuse to watch Mikeneko on YouTube

>>70810254
Well you see anon, she fucked around far too much and started finding out

>>70812332
I mean, then you can also blame vshojofags too for not watching Kson and Nazuna after using them as a way to shit on Holo, i guess.

>>70810495
I agree. They should be a black company like all the rest.

>>70810810
Anon there's a reason Vshojo only nepohires either top-indies or former indies

>>70812619(me)
Former corpos*

>>70810810
Nobody gets free models from vshojo. Mouse alone would make them bankrupt in 6 months.

>>70812619
Were Haruka and Geega really top indies though?

>>70812766
I know, not a too high bar, but both beat the crap out of shylili

>>70812766
>Haruka
Nepohires
>Geega
Big twitch indie chuba. Like nigga just averaging 2k+ ccv pretty much putting you at the high end of the already few list.

>>70812118
It was her responsibility to never talk to him ever. My point is that it wouldn't have turned out any differently.

>>70812766
They're not Shylily or Filian level, but they were definitely up in there in the top percentile as far EN indies across the board on Twitch goes. And they also have the benefit of already being close to current members hence why they went with them as safe bet over hiring random 2views from their auditions.

>>70812841
>Big twitch indie chuba
Bro, she averaged 500 ccv before joining Vshojo. She was never the big indie like you think she is.

>>70812913
The hell do you mean averaging 500 ccv. She's already averaging on sub 2k number even before she's in Vshojo

>>70812965
>She's already averaging on sub 2k number even before she's in Vshojo
Lmao no she wasn't. You don't even watch her you fucking retard.

>>70812984
Nice history revisionism retard, you obviously just pull that number out of nowhere

>>70810254
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Wait let me light the bonfire first. We're gonna talk the entire night.
So you see, it all started [...]

Why hasn't VShojo picked up Sayu yet?

>>70812965
>>70812984
Here ya go schizbros

>>70813037
Sayu will never ever go to a corpo again. She's happy where she's at.

>>70813037
Nina still has a blood feud I think. Outside of that she only really knows KSON there so there's not much need.

>>70813037
Sayu doesn't want to join.

>>70812984
Nice 500 ccv average there, retard >>70813056

>>70813091
Nice 2k ccv average there, retard >>70813056

Literally only happened when she joined vshojo lmao

>>70813037
No connection to anyone in vshojo and they've turned down bigger than her before.

>>70813131
Closer to 2k than your claim of 500, retardbro

>>70813152
1.2k average is closer to 500 than your argued 2k, idiot.

>>70813174
>1.2k
>when she's already pulling 1.6k before vshojo
This retard can't even read graph too

>>70812766
Yeah Haruka averaged above 2k CCV before joining, here's her stats for 2022. You can see the small spike when she joined Vshojo in December. GEEGA averaged about 1.5K CCV before joining. Being a 4view and being friends with current Vshojo members is the only way to join Vshojo.

>>70813199
1.6k wasn't the average, retard. Look at the graph again. It was about 1.2k average from Feb to September. Do you even fucking know what an average is?

>>70813244
She's already has 4 months of averaging around 1.5k average.
Jesas, this retard is so desperate to prove his false point lmao

>>70810254
I know you compare her to Holos and stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that someone this evil and insane still can make a decent living out of playing video games.
That is fucking retarded. I hate modern world

Is this vhoejotard seriously arguing that over 1k average is somehow small?

>>70813275
Just because you don't how averages work, doesn't fucking mean you can change what the results are. It's even funnier because none of this is even close to fucking 2k, fucking hilarious.

>>70813312
Yeah, it's even more retarded when someone trying to change the fact by saying she was 500 ccv average chuba before vshojo.
Kek, the desperation.

>>70813283
Simps sold out men, and there's pretty much no going back. Now a woman can do the most heinous shit and live comfortably off simpbux.

>monkeys fighting over numbers

>>70813037
I would love to see sayu joining vshojo just to fuck with nina kek

>>70813135
Who?

>>70813275
It's not even close to 2k you dumb nigger

>>70810254
Hey Nazuna, play viva la vida

>>70813715
Snuffy and Anny are 2 of the most notable indies to be rejected. Giri too but she was just starting out at the time.

>>70813680
that's not how it works

>>70810254
Reminder that being a 4 view still puts her in the top end of 1% of all streamers, she is still doing fine.

>>70811903
The funny thing is she has clearly spent it all

>>70813037
Why would any company want someone that untrustworthy

>>70814017
Yes, we know there is no justice in this world.

>>70813816
Snuffy getting rejected is still kind of a headscratcher to me. She was close to a lot of the girls at the time.

>>70814068
What has Sayu ever been untrustworthy about, or are you NJD coping?

>>70811903
Gonna subscribe just to make you seethe even more

>>70812841
They don't just need ccv too, they need ccv growth. Vshojo can offer little to someone who has already found their audience and capped out, they need people that are on their way up.

>>70810254
So what was the point of her leaving vshojo, burning even more bridges and the only thing she can show for it is to lose even more fans?

How many Finana is this?

>>70814202
The story is that she did it to keep her antis away from the other girls, just like Coco did with the Chinks. We all know deep down that she has no empathy for others, so this is a lie.

>>70814202
I think she probably wasn't allowed to be part of another "talent agency" while joining a recording label through another one.

>>70810254
>Where did it all go so wrong?
i would tell you but i once got banned for even mentioning the phrase that popped up

>>70814091
Yeah, that felt like a no-brainer and still doesn't really make sense.

Has any streamer had success on Twitch in the last 2 years without leech from Tiktok?

>>70814091
Mouse is the only one sleeping, and the only one is in Vshojo kek.

>>70814202
Like Nyanners, Vei and Silver did? Because she wanted to just like they wanted to I guess. It's not a life contract.

>>70814328
Yes, Mohammed.

>>70814328
It's hard to build your audiance on Twitch if you are a nobody.

>>70814328
This question is so retarded that I can't even answer it. I seriously can not comprehend why you would even ask this. What are you trying to say here?

>>70810495
What are they gonna do with a dead channel? Their whole gimmick is getting already popular people to join them. They're not gonna get anyone successful to ever sign up if they a "we steal all yo shit" clause in their contract. They'll only get desperate 2views and low 3views, and none willing to join with their existing model.

>>70814215
The numbers have been run
>>70810759
>>70814328
Yes.

>>70814328
Tiktok is huge, it's normal for any content creator to leech from Tiktok. You are retarded if you dont.

>>70812766
No, but for twitch the were upper mid.

>>70814222
This
She wasn't even talking with them. It is just a lie to make herself look better

>>70814102
leaked DMs. matara told her something in confidence and she told the world about it. not the actual "secret" but the fact that it happened. enough for matara to break contact. goes to show what kind of person she is, not to mention not a single ex niji wants to get involved with her.

>>70814102
>talks openly with dramatubers
>conflict with artists (not the recent 3D one, but before)
>isolated from any indie group
>betrayed trust of coworkers
>only inclined due to recent drama

Nobody is gonna pick that up, way too much liability in one person. Any company can safely assume she'll cry to some drama retard as soon as she steps on a lego.

>>70810254
She's doing fine on Mikeneko right? This is just an alt for her.

>>70810254
What a shame, Nayuna is arguably the best vtuber model I've seen. With top tier voice too. If only...

>that twitcast notification
Qrd?

>>70814541
>only inclined due to recent drama
yeah fuck off. She was pulling 2k even before the dokibump. She's been working her ass off to get back to this point.

>>70815280

>>70810254
特 級 呪 物

>>70815280
sure dude

>>70815424
Yeah, but a lot of that was skewed weirdly due to the multi month subathon fucking with her averages due to the sleeping portions. Once it was over, she started simulcasting too which helped her growth. A little bit after that, the dokibump happened and she went from around 1200ish from both sides to about 2.5-3k average lately depending on game and time slots. You can see here the hours streamed getting really ridiculous in the last two or three months where the average was low, followed by an unnatural spike in december, rather than what you'd expect in february because that's when the subathon was over. The dokibump came after.

>>70813816
Anny is doing pretty well on her own.
But Anny doesn't even seem the type to be in a corpo.
She rarely collabs, collabs are usually Vrchat, and rarely plays any FOTM games. I have only seen her play Osu and Elden Ring seriously.

>>70815757
That wouldn't be an issue.

>>70815829
Yeah, I just find it weird that she applied for a corpo when she doesn't interact with other streamers that much.

>>70810254
who is number one JP twitch only vtuber nowadays?

>>70815958
Kanae comes to mind, but he is a guy

>>70815958
if we are talking just JP vtubers.

Henta counts i guess.
average above 5000 i believe

>>70811889
no, her fingers. her pussy is reserved for guys like mafu or kirsh

>>70815280
>>70815646
>dokibump

>>70810254
Randomly browsed my playlists earlier, have a reminder of better days
https://youtu.be/uC2f9U-_0iI

>>70815646
Also I forgot to mention that in general, her averages were always fucking weird because of her absurdly long stream times. She'd regularly go above 12 hours (she hit 15 again last night), and due to this she'd often cruise at very high numbers like 2k at 10-12 and drop back down to like 200 midday or in the early evening, then go back up to 1200 in the evening, really making everything wonky. She can cruise for hours after a raid all the way to the end but often people around that time didn't actually start with her and just came in later and decided to stay since she was basically the only person still online and entertaining enough. After the dokibump though, her average ccv has been climbing pretty crazy and everything's now started to be consistently around 2.5-3k for the whole stream rather than drastically going up and down all the time. It hasn't been long though, but it does seem like it's been rising steadily each week too! She seriously streams more in a week than the entirety of NijiEN does in a month and her solid reactions and comedic timing can keep her entertaining to the point of really, really fucking with my sleep schedule.

>>70811206
>cozy voice acting gig
Anon just woke-up from a long coma

>>70813237
i mean 1.5k aint bad for vtubers, if you only compare them to the pinacle instead of the average, 1.2 to 2k mogs half of nijis lmao

>>70816704
I hear you can go full time with just like 3-400 active viewers with the right setup. 1.2 to 2k is fantastic. Especially rushia tier spenders.

>>70816332
I'm sure the one episode she did was quite comfy before everything blew up again. it might have been a nice start to a small voice acting career if her taste in men wasn't so bad

>>70813364
no difference from meatspace in this aspect.

>>70814091
She got veto'd.

>>70816083
Henya is 50/50 bilingual and easily the first of that league.

>Has the IP rights to two vtuber models (both bangers)
>Got a nendroid contract with Nazuna and several sponsors on Mike
>Still Works as VA
>Still works as a Vsinger with her new Music production company (who publicly stated that they will not drop her)
>Steams on 5 different platforms and can double to triple dip in special occasions
>Filtered all her antis and schizos
She won

>>70812807
>but both beat the crap out of shylili
No they fucking don't, what the hell are you talking about

>>70814091
Snuffy threatened to out iron rrats use of viewbots that she also used

>>70818004
neither of them are literal whores of the twitch ceo... shylili on the other hand...

>>70818230
Where did this even come from? Because she met him at a con?

>>70818230
You are so stupid

>>70818247
She went to dinner with him (and several other streamers) and tweeted about it with a selfie
But you don't see the other streamers in her post so that means she fucked him, because this board is filled with completely normal people

>>70818247
so that's the cope nowadays?
>>70818281
cry

>>70810254
>followers gained -342
All this did is remind some people to unfollow her on twitch.

>>70818296
...You're the same idiots who thought Sayu fucked Nousagi aren't you?

>>70818357
Sayu fucked Nousagi, FalseEyeD, and Legal Minded. Rima too, but she was topping.

>>70818357
lmao no, try again lilycuck

>>70813816
she got rejected too

>>70818492
Man, she really has the worst luck in the world, huh? I really feel sorry for her.

>>70813037
She applied and got rejected >>70818492

>>70810254
she's a voice actress now
>bu-but she's immoral!

google Aya Hirano

>>70818748
To this day, the bassist hasn't scored yet.

>>70818748
Mikeneko is unironically more evil than Aya Hirano. Aya Hirano is just a slut.

>>70810254
The fact this whore can still stream to over 4 Finanas is grim. Fuck twitch simps, seriously.

>>70818748
>>70818788
And fuck you. That was literally what tanked her career.

>>70818628
>2021
This is pre-zaion. Makes sense since she wasn't a 4view back then.

>>70818748
lol

>>70817632
Nazuna, My beloved

>>70818492
man, that' sad.

She's winning so hard she needs to bait retirement/graduation to get donations.

>>70819549
We're talking about nazuna not sayu

>>70819698
Yes, we are indeed talking about Nazuna.
https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16/movie/788814416

>>70819828
That's Mikeneko.

>>70818788
Reminder that the bassist was married and refused to fuck her because he wasn't a degenerate.

>>70820126
t. the bassist.

>>70810254
>twitch

>>70819828
>posts tits
>whines later
Yeesh, women

Please do not let this thread distract you from the fact Matara is pure fucking sex.

>>70820109
By this logic Nazuna doesn't have an anime role nor any kind of record label contract and is nothing but an apex streamer.

>>70820324
mommy...

>>70820427
Why is she so fucking lazy? Play something other than apex you semen demon.

>>70820427
My point was more that she might retire Mikeneko instead of Nazuna.

>>70810458
Paypigs so addicted to GFE that they lost touch with reality
Mknk/Nazuna/Rushia is the ultimate ending of this

>>70820951
My point is that she is not retiring anything and is just begging for money.

>>70820427
What is with vtuber women and Apex? That shit is like catnip for them.

>>70810254
Without Hololive these women are nothing.

It's a damn shame that such a great design was wasted on a gigamenhera.

>>70821104
No one left is there for the GFE, they're just afraid of escaping from an established norm

>>70810742
Without Nazuna she would probably be fucked, a lot of people are still pissed at Michael. This a great way to somewhat escape since Twitch has its own different audience

>>70817632
>Still works as a Vsinger with her new Music production company (who publicly stated that they will not drop her)
The VA company said that. Pony Canyon, the music company, hasn't said anything about her and she stopped following them on main
There's speculation that they'll drop her

>>70821162
Literally a dating game in Japan. I'm not joking

>>70823829
I thought that was Valorant.

>>70819828
>引退を考える枠
Attention whore. She doesn't get 1k CCV on Twitcast without baiting

>>70810254
>meanwhile
>Rica ch
12 mins into her stream is at 3500

>>70823892
Both. Valorant is arguably worse, though
I remember Nazuna called it a game that men and women play to flirt with each other
Never oshi an FPS woman

>>70810458
It's literally menhera chasers. The ones that stuck around aren't put off because all the bad shit she does just make them like her more. It's a fetish.

>>70816787
Finana has been going forever with only 1 Finana, not-Rushia now has 5, I'd say its probably enough to live comfortably.

>>70823892
It's any popular multiplayer game that gets trendy overseas. The trend arguably started with that final fantasy mmo and just took over japanese gaming spaces entirely.

>>70824234
Mike also isn't splitting her revenue with a black company.

>>70821371
*Special Grade Cursed Object
>>70820324
Don't let Matara distract you from the fact that PEKORA BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEY

>>70824307
She's apparently wasting it all on lawsuits

>>70824478
>Don't let Matara distract you from the fact that PEKORA BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEY
Not for long, not for long.

still a 4view despite everything

>>70812019
>look up her recent roles
>saori - zombie 100
>who.jpg
>look it up
>it's the female secretary who sleeps with MC's boss
kek cant write this shit up

>>70813037
Despite everyone shitting on Niji right now, their notice when they let her go did made her radioactive and literally no one wanted to do anything with her and that kinda stuck .

>>70818389
Can confirm, she fucked me too

The termination notice just played into a hate mob that had been fuming since the suspension notice

>>70820324
That is a fucking cockroach anon

>>70810254
The fact that she still has an audience after all she's done is fucking grim. Has she been streaming as mikeneko too? or any idea of how much she's been earning lately?

>>70811206
>cozy voice acting gig
if you convert to zimbabwe dollars maybe